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37:59 <Mekkis> https://letscrate.com/
38:09 <Mekkis> for you Brunius|M 
39:00 <Brunius|M> Ulzef is expanding?
39:10 <Mekkis> looks like it
40:25 <Mekkis> holy shit
40:53 <Mekkis> SpiritOfFreedom.com is available
41:09 <Mekkis> Guess how much, Brunius|M 
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26:26 <mooke> hi
28:55 <Hydrazine> hi
29:00 <mooke> hows things
29:44 <Hydrazine> Unremarkable.
32:23 <mooke> oh..
32:33 <Hydrazine> And you?
32:45 <mooke> hmm not too bad i s'pose
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46:20 <brokagedog> hello
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57:04 <Avatar> it's a bit of a waste of money if you don't need them
57:16 <Avatar> cold iron arrows that is
57:37 <Longshot> its only double the cost isn't it?
57:45 <Longshot> so 2 GP per 20 arrows
57:47 <Avatar> yeah but why use them if you don't need them
57:57 <Avatar> you can still carry both
58:15 <Longshot> can you recover arrows or are they destroyed on use?
58:30 <Avatar> if they miss, there's a 50% chance you can recover them intact
58:49 <Avatar> so you want to count the expensive misses
59:13 <Longshot> the other problem with carrying both though is encumberence
59:24 <Longshot> its 3 pounds per 20 arrows
59:42 <Longshot> and im already having trouble with encumberence on my ranger :(
59:48 <Longshot> im technically carrying a medium load
59:56 <Longshot> just hoping the GMs don't care/notice hahaha
01:49 <Longshot> if i get rid of my backpack, bedroll, waterskin, sillk rope then i'm at a light load
02:04 <Avatar> if encumberance is an issue then yeah cold iron only 
02:18 <Avatar> what's your str? 12?
02:39 <Avatar> did you get a masterwork backpack
02:44 <Longshot> nope, 14
02:55 <Avatar> you can't just hope GMs don't care/notice
02:58 <Avatar> they usually won't notice
03:01 <Avatar> but that's cheating
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03:11 <Avatar> it's up to you to tell the GM you're on a medium load
03:26 <Longshot> even with masterwork pack im having to get rid of stuff
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03:40 <Avatar> if the GM has to ask about all those minuatie it'd slow the game down and it'd get boring right quick
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04:11 <Avatar> show us your sheet
04:14 <Avatar> is it on krillic
04:23 <Avatar> !findchar krillic
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04:30 <diebot> Avatar, Character: krillic, number: ( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char= )
04:35 <Avatar> !findchar Krillic
04:35 <diebot> Avatar, Character: Krillic, number: 759( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=759 )
05:17 <Longshot> Its mostly that dang chain shirt
05:29 <Longshot> 25 pounds for light armor? come on..
05:30 <Longshot> haha
06:17 <Avatar> do you have ultimate combat
06:57 <Avatar> ah nevermind, I thought leather lamellar is lighter than chain shirt, but it's not
07:02 <Avatar> just has a better max dex bonus
07:29 <Longshot> yeah you had mentioned it the other day and I had looked into it
07:43 <Longshot> not much i can do, really 
07:52 <Longshot> except buy a donkey or something
08:17 <Avatar> wait I lie, chain shirt has a better max dex
09:00 <Avatar> buying a pack horse is a good way to deal with weight issues
09:04 <Avatar> just carry the essentials on your person
09:41 <Avatar> you can ditch the bedroll pretty safely man
09:49 <Avatar> I don't know anyone who's made use of one
10:10 <Longshot> like i said, if i can get rid of the rope, backpack, waterskin, and bedroll and just carry things in my pockets then im good to go
10:47 <Avatar> if you get a masterwork backpack, your light load capacity jumps from 58 to 66
11:04 <Avatar> the backpack weighs a bit more itself, but it'll still be an extra 4 or so pounds you can carry
14:37 <Longshot> questing about whetstones. would they work on arrows do you think?
14:55 <Longshot> the book says "blade" but are arrowheads little tiny blades on sticks or is that pushing it?
15:18 <Avatar> what?
15:32 <Avatar> they're blades on sticks
15:37 <Longshot> whetstone takes 15 minutes to sharpen a blade, gives +1 damage the first time it hits
16:25 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2opxb?Whetstones-on-arrows#1
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27:21 <Longshot> was that you who just posted in the thread asking fora  FAQ link? haha
27:37 <Avatar> no that was some other Avatar probably
27:54 <Longshot> haha, well it said avatar-1
28:07 <Longshot> stupid question I guess
28:20 <Avatar> avatar is a popular nickname
28:34 <Longshot> what would you rule as a GM assuming it wasn't PFS?
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29:29 <Avatar> I'd limit it to slashing weapons
31:18 <Longshot> yeah me too, probably
31:31 <Longshot> but just wondering in any case. That cheap +1 would be nice at low levels
43:25 <Longshot> How easy is it to get celestial armor in PFS?
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51:49 <Longshot> neverming, just saw, 37 fame
52:02 <Longshot> so about 20ish games
53:04 <Steven> 19 scenarios with no mission failures
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53:24 <Longshot> or one mission failure
53:49 <Steven> cost of armor, plus masterworking
53:55 <Steven> include on price to purchase
54:10 <Steven> best not to fail
58:18 <Longshot> so how does PFS work past level 11 besides seeker story arcs?
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13:49 <Avatar> there's one 4-part of scenarios at level 12
13:55 <Avatar> then you just do adventure paths
21:22 <Longshot> whats the difference between adventure paths and normal chronicles? 
26:34 <Avatar> there's scenarios, modules, and adventure paths
26:45 <Avatar> they all give chronicle sheets
26:51 <Avatar> scenarios are like the one you played the other night
27:13 <Longshot> like one offs
27:29 <Avatar> modules are longer and generally give more or better bonuses
27:40 <Avatar> adventure paths are more like small campaigns
27:52 <Longshot> do modules take one session or more than one?
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28:49 <Avatar> usually more than one
29:16 <Avatar> we be goblins is a pretty common module because it's awesome and you can replay it, that's just one session like a scenario
29:23 <Avatar> only gives 1 prestige
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30:15 <Longshot> you can only replay it with different characters though yeah?
30:32 <Avatar> yeah
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37:14 <SexyGirlG> am horny add me guys    rose.mourad
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37:21 Avatar has kicked SexyGirlG from #d&d (when come back, bring pie!)
37:28 <Avatar> add me guyz
37:36 <Steven> fuck that you're a whore!
37:41 <Avatar> add me
37:57 <Steven> god you're such a slut avatar!
44:57 <spider21b> xd
49:44 <spider21b> huh?
49:50 <spider21b> what happend to avatar?
49:56 <Avatar> what
50:11 <spider21b> sorry i mean why was that robot in here anyway?
52:21 <Mekkis> God save the Queen
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12:06 <spider21b> so any level 6-10 games around?
26:37 <Mekkis> get Steven to run one
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30:07 <spider21b> how do i do that?
30:14 <Mekkis> ask him
31:10 <spider21b> hey steven want to run a game?
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36:01 <Brunius> Apparently old is defined as when you can legally go drinking with someone who wasn't born when you could legally go drinking
36:54 <Wrothmonk> so... 42? possibly under depending on state/country?
37:16 <Longshot> or 36 in the countries that have it right
37:34 <Mekkis> Brunius, you're wrong there. Old is defined on p169 as 53 years. You get -2 to str, dex and con, and +2 to int, wis, and cha.
37:43 <Longshot> or 28 in germany haha
37:46 <Brunius> ...
37:52 <Wrothmonk> XD nice one mekkis.
37:59 <Brunius> I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry
37:59 <Mekkis> You should know. You've got a core rulebook!
39:06 <Mekkis> if you're old at 36, you're probably a goblin
52:39 <Mekkis> "I have coded cracks that are detected right away seconds later by Kaspersky"
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44:50 <Brunius> JimVideo
45:16 <Avatar> do you like to watch video or make video
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55:40 <Mekkis_x200> what are you running on Saturday?
56:32 <Avatar> www.pfrpg.com.au
57:29 <JimVideo> Hi Brunius.
57:46 <JimVideo> I just uploaded a video to Youtube today.
58:09 <Mekkis_x200> !spell Gorum's armor
58:13 <diebot> Mekkis_x200, GORUM'S ARMOR transmutation ([]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, magus 1 1 standard action Range: touch 1 suit of metal armor or 1 metal shield Comp: V, S, M (1 iron spike) Duration: 10 minutes/level Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:
58:13 <diebot> yes (harmless) The targeted suit of armor or shield sprouts thousands of tiny iron spikes like porcupine quills. These do not harm the armor's wearer (though donning or removing armor under the effects of this spell takes twice as long), but they act as armor spikes or shield spikes (as appropriate). Any creature attacking the wearer with natural
58:13 <diebot> weapons takes 1 point of piercing damage for each attack that hits. At 5th level, the spikes gain a +1 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls; this bonus increases to +2 at 10th level. At 15th level, the spikes also gain the anarchic weapon quality.
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16:17 <Avatar> we be goblins too comes out in a few weeks
18:15 <Mekkis> I'm not playing it online
22:01 <Avatar> sucks to be you then
24:56 <spider21b> i want to play it online
25:05 <Mekkis> sucks to be anyone who plays it online, actually
25:23 <Mekkis> I think I'll run it for Jerod and Hayley
25:41 <Mekkis> you should come up and we can have the same group!
26:48 <Mekkis> you can come too, spider21b 
28:30 <spider21b> awesome when is it?
28:59 <Mekkis> a weekend after it comes out.
29:06 <Mekkis> Late July, early August
29:39 <Mekkis> although I plan on running WotW on the 3rd of August
44:49 <Mekkis> !hp 5d6m3+5d6m2
44:50 <diebot> Mekkis, 67
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48:55 <Mekkis_x200> what 4th level summoner spells should Itzamna take?
50:09 <Avatar> true form
50:20 <Avatar> wandering star motes
50:25 <Avatar> how many can you take
51:11 <Longshot> does your eidolon already have flight?
52:37 <Longshot> If not, overland flight looks fun. Or maybe baleful polymorph if you like the save or lose game.
53:05 <Avatar> all of mekkis' characters are already super overpowered 
53:13 <Avatar> it makes the game worse if you make him more overpowered
53:14 <Mekkis_x200> two
53:22 <Mekkis_x200> as a summoner
53:35 <Longshot> or teleport
53:52 <Mekkis_x200> Mage's Faithful Hound?
54:44 <Longshot> Seems situational.
54:53 <Mekkis_x200> so is Teleport
55:11 <Longshot> What about wall of stone? 
55:17 <Longshot> That's useful always.
55:28 <spider21b> hum, i got an ac horse named susan
55:33 <spider21b> thoughts?
55:36 <spider21b> xd
55:41 <spider21b> brb
55:49 <Mekkis_x200> Where do you get your names from?
56:13 <Mekkis_x200> Itzamna is taking Tongues.
56:19 <Mekkis_x200> Maybe Tongues, Communal
56:45 <Mekkis_x200> after that issue in the Dog Pharaoh's Tomb
56:57 <Longshot> would tongues be better on a wand?
57:10 <Mekkis_x200> no. Too expensive
57:14 <Avatar> weren't you the one who asked about how much a 4th level wand costs the other day
57:29 <Avatar> instant enemy or something
57:31 <Longshot> yeah haha
57:36 <Longshot> like 27,000
57:38 <Longshot> i think it was
57:43 <Avatar> 15000
57:47 <Avatar> still way too much
57:48 <Mekkis_x200> Don't get me wrong, there ARE some 4th-level wands worth buying...
57:55 <Longshot> like instant enemy.
57:57 <Mekkis_x200> no
58:01 <Mekkis_x200> not Instant Enemy
58:17 <Longshot> haha
58:23 <Longshot> What eidolon does your summoner have?
58:24 <Mekkis_x200> if you're buying a 4th-level wand, it should be a Wand of &holy sword.
58:30 <diebot> HOLY SWORD evocation ([good]) paladin 4 1 standard action Range: touch melee weapon touched Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level Save: none SR:no
58:30 <diebot> This spell allows you to channel holy power into your sword, or any other melee weapon you choose. The weapon acts as a +5 holy weapon (+5 enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls, extra 2d6 damage against evil opponents). It also emits a magic circle against evil effect (as the spell). If the magic circle ends, the sword creates a new one on
58:30 <diebot> your turn as a free action. The spell is automatically canceled 1 round after the weapon leaves your hand. You cannot have more than one holy sword at a time. If this spell is cast on a magic weapon, the powers of the spell supercede any that the weapon normally has, rendering the normal enhancement bonus and powers of the weapon inoperative for
58:30 <diebot> the duration of the spell. This spell is not cumulative with bless weapon or any other spell that might modify the weapon in any way. This spell does not work on artifacts. A masterwork weapon's bonus to attack does not stack with an enhancement bonus to attack.
58:34 <Mekkis_x200> A giant mechanical spider
59:14 <Mekkis_x200> I would say that the wand of holy sword would be worth paying for.
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59:40 <Longshot> gross. i hate spiders haha
00:31 <Mekkis_x200> because a +5 holy weapon costs 98,000, and doesn't include the Magic Circle Against Evil
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01:08 <Mekkis_x200> (the wand costs.... 30000gp)
01:50 <Mekkis_x200> but Longshot, the advantage of the Instant Enemy spell is that it's a swift-action to cast
01:56 <Longshot> so it takes 150 charges for it to be not worth it. and that many charges would probably take until level 20 to use haha
02:05 <Mekkis_x200> pretty much
03:11 <Mekkis_x200> That being said, there's the Staff of the Avenger, which costs 37000, and is effectively infinite
03:19 <Mekkis_x200> Brunius, I hope Bairaq gets one!
03:33 <Avatar> staves seem a bit overpowered in PFS
03:54 <Mekkis_x200> I'll concede that they're very powerful.
04:00 <Mekkis_x200> Not as overpowered as Snowball.
04:18 <Mekkis_x200> Avatar, have you seen anyone other than my characters use staves?
04:19 <Avatar> what exactly does snowball do
04:25 <Mekkis_x200> !spell snowball
04:26 <diebot> Mekkis_x200, SNOWBALL conjuration (creation[cold, water]) druid 1, magus 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Fortitude partial (see text) SR:no
04:26 <diebot> You conjure a ball of packed ice and snow that you can throw at a single target as a ranged touch attack. On a successful hit, the snowball deals 1d6 points of cold damage per caster level (maximum 5d6), and the target must make a successful Fortitude saving throw or be staggered for 1 round.
04:34 <Avatar> what's wrong with that
05:02 <Mekkis_x200> No SR, conjuration, 1d6 damage per level, and fort save or staggered.
05:38 <Avatar> <?staggered
05:39 <diebot> A staggered creature may take a single move action or standard action each round (but not both, nor can he take full-round actions). A staggered creature can still take free, swift, and immediate actions. A creature with nonlethal damage exactly equal to its current hit points gains the staggered condition.
05:39 <Mekkis_x200> a straight 1d6 per level on ranged touch is unavailable at 1st level, for any class
05:59 <Avatar> I think cloudkill in every encounter seems more powerful than that ?
06:01 <Longshot> its still DEX dependant though. Magic missile doesn't require any roll at all
06:27 <Mekkis_x200> the fact that it's on the druid list makes it worse - divine casters are only supposed to get a maximum of 1 damage die at first level.
07:03 <Longshot> how can you get more than 1 damage die on the spell?
07:06 <Mekkis_x200> Avatar, sure, but Cloudkill every encounter doesn't start at first level - it starts at eighth or ninth
07:31 <Avatar> well, there's colour spray
07:36 <Mekkis_x200> (The Staff of Toxins, which Deceased uses, got errataed to cost three times as much as he paid for it)
07:45 <Mekkis_x200> Avatar, it's not on a divine list.
07:51 <Avatar> did deceased end up paying 3x as much for it after the errata
07:55 <Mekkis_x200> no
07:58 <Mekkis_x200> it was grandfathered
08:05 <Avatar> seems OP
08:57 <Mekkis_x200> strictly speaking it didn't get errataed, it got removed (allowing grandfathering, and instructing you to refer to UE rather than APG for staves)
09:20 <Avatar> strictly speaking you have a staff that's worth three times what you paid for it
09:27 <Mekkis_x200> yes
09:29 <Longshot> do the charges reset everyday?
09:37 <Mekkis_x200> no
09:38 <Avatar> in PFS, they reset between scenarios
09:49 <Avatar> in normal games you can only recharge one charge per day
09:58 <Avatar> it's a loophole
13:15 <Wrothmonk> whats this about recharging charges?
13:31 <Avatar> read up three lines
15:22 <Wrothmonk> I meant, what kind of charges?
15:50 <Wrothmonk> like wand charges?
17:09 <Wrothmonk> oh wait nvm.
18:08 <Mekkis_x200> What is it with you americans and your stupid paper sizes?
18:15 <Wrothmonk> ?
18:31 <Mekkis_x200> you have this "letter" paper size that's slightly wider and shorter than A4
18:36 <Mekkis_x200> it's stupid
19:01 <Mekkis_x200> I have one chronicle sheet that doesn't fit in my folder, because americans are too dumb to use International Standards.
19:16 <Longshot> hahaha
19:20 <Longshot> trim it
19:31 <Avatar> I thought you had a chronicle sheet that lists all scenarios
19:44 <Avatar> I suggested it and you said you had one
20:20 <Mekkis_x200> yeah, but this is Bonekeep.
20:34 <Avatar> meaning what
20:35 <Mekkis_x200> the one chronicle sheet that doesn't fit in the folder.
20:45 <Mekkis_x200> turns out I can't get a PDF of bonekeep
20:53 <Mekkis_x200> Due to not being Mike Brock
21:07 <Avatar> just use a text file
21:34 <Mekkis_x200> you still need chronicle sheets for your character to be legal
22:30 <Avatar> you still have it
23:56 <Mekkis_x200> at the table
28:10 <Mekkis_x200> Why is there a google ad for Magic: The Gathering at the bottom of an article about Sgt Bales telling the court how he killed 16 Afgans?
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30:32 <Ballig> google is tracking your interests
31:01 <Mekkis_x200> Ballig, are you going to be disappearing in the next month?
32:41 <Ballig> should be going on leave soon
34:08 <Mekkis_x200> you always seem to go on Hiatus whenever I get within 100km of Canberra
34:36 <Ballig> it's a gift
34:44 <Mekkis_x200> yeah
34:52 <Mekkis_x200> that's why I was asking :)
34:55 <Ballig> whether I get time off work depends on what happens with the position I'm acting in
35:14 <Ballig> they don't seem too keen to give me leave while I'm acting EL1
35:37 <Mekkis_x200> I meant disappearing from IRC
35:50 <Ballig> if I get leave I'm probably going up to Brisbane
36:02 <Ballig> er
36:04 <Ballig> Bundaberg, rather
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47:22 <Brunius> !item staff of the avenger
47:22 <diebot> Brunius, STAFF OF THE AVENGER [moderate evocation] CL:10 none 37310gp, 5lb
47:22 <diebot> This shining golden staff is topped with a radiant gemstone that emits light like a torch. As a swift action, the wielder of the staff can cause it to change into a +2 lance, although it retains its other abilities. It can be made to revert to its staff form as a free action. The staff allows use of the following spells: • Bless weapon (1 charge,
47:22 <diebot> cast on the staff only) • Shield other (1 charge) • Discern lies (2 charges) • Holy sword (4 charges, cast on the staff only) Source: Ultimate Equipment
51:12 <Mekkis_x200> Brunius, that's your next weapon
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09:53 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
22:06 <Brunius> Mekkis is trying to sell me on Holy Sword
23:10 <Steven> its not bad
23:52 <Steven> +5 hit and damage +2d6 holy that bypasses all damage reduction except epic
28:30 <Mekkis> an actual holy sword would cost 98000gp
35:20 <Steven> personally for a 4th level spell, i dont think its as good as EagleSoul
41:21 <Mekkis> !spell eaglesoul
41:22 <diebot> Mekkis, EAGLESOUL conjuration (summoning[good]) cleric 6, paladin 4, summoner 5 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S, M (vellum inscribed with good outsider's name) Duration: 1 hour/level (see below) Save:  SR:
41:23 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/eaglesoul.html
41:51 <Mekkis> what book's that from?
42:01 <Mekkis> I agree, it is very good
42:18 <Mekkis> (it doesn't come on a Staff, like Holy Sword does though, and it's not wandable)
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04:21 <Mekkis> Want to get SpiritOfFreedom.com?
04:41 <Mekkis> Bids start at $US7293!
09:31 <Mekkis> Instead, you could get spiritoffreed.om
09:34 <Steven> i'd rather not
13:27 <Steven> thats cool.
16:10 <Mekkis> looks like there's finally a drive to clarify Heighten Spell
18:24 <Mekkis> oh no
18:43 <Mekkis> Please tell me that no scenario has a Lantern of Dancing Shadows in it
27:36 <spider21b> so what do you guys think of me getting a horse for spellbook?
32:52 <Steven> what do you think about me not paying attention?
33:59 <spider21b> ok ok fine
46:36 <Mekkis> spider21b, do you have any vision of for your character Bleedin Shame?
53:07 <spider21b> yea, he is all ready set xd
53:21 <spider21b> a gunslinger with a bit of soc know how
53:32 <spider21b> was thinking of getting him a hound dog xd
55:20 <Mekkis> or whatever Spellbook's name is
55:27 <Mekkis> (spellbook is a really shitty name, fyi)
00:04 <spider21b> wizard/fighter
00:08 <spider21b> i know it is
00:51 <Mekkis> what's the VISION?
05:03 <Steven> I made a Fighter wizard
08:44 <spider21b> really?
08:50 <spider21b> mine is a trans wizard
10:41 <Longshot> isn't a magus a wizard/fighter qith just one class..?
11:49 <Steven> not really
12:06 <Steven> magus are shocking grasp one trick ponies
12:46 <Wrothmonk>   what about myrmidarch?
13:28 <Steven> hey look im a one trick pony with a bow instead of a scimitar
13:44 <Wrothmonk> and yet they cant use shocking graps for it
15:25 <spider21b> idk magus's dont have issues too
16:00 <Steven> its just a ranged touch spell instead of a melee touch
16:33 <Steven> its still a one trick ponie, you just find yourself a ranged touch spell.
17:47 <Steven> so now you do the spell strike with a snowball
17:58 <Steven> instead of a shocking grasp
18:14 <Steven> oh mans... 
19:26 <spider21b> true
19:59 <Wrothmonk> and it doesnt have to be a bow, it could be a gun.
20:09 <Wrothmonk> which is what my new character will be doing :P
21:08 <spider21b> awesome
21:18 <Longshot> So help me get this right. A gunslinger with a double barreled pistol can shoot both shots, reload for free, and shoot both shots again?
21:46 <Steven> yeah
21:51 <Steven> and if they dual wield
21:58 <Steven> they can have them both on weapon cords
22:07 <Steven> shoot both barrels
22:12 <Steven> drop gun
22:21 <Steven> shoot both barrels of second gun
22:27 <Steven> drop gun
22:31 <Steven> reload first gun
22:39 <Steven> reload second gun
22:56 <Steven> oh wait you dont have to drop second gun
23:19 <Longshot> so a low level gunslinger with rapidshot and quick reload can shoot 8 times?
23:31 <Wrothmonk> they could not
23:34 <Steven> a rediculous amount of times.
23:38 <Wrothmonk> they still need to purchase the guns
23:43 <Wrothmonk> and that requires fame
24:09 <Longshot> 2 masterwork double barreled pistols are 40k i think.
24:22 <Wrothmonk> 20k each?
24:32 <Longshot> excuse me, 4k
24:35 <Mekkis> non pfs legal
24:50 <Longshot> the double barelled or the chords?
28:08 <Mekkis> double-barrelled
28:13 <Mekkis> the cords are just cheesy
29:11 <Longshot> i don't see why not. that website you guys gave me the link to just say no double hackbutt or advanced firearms
29:24 <Longshot> or large or larger
29:32 <Longshot> Equipment: No firearm sized Large or larger is available for purchase. The double hackbut and culverin on Table 3–4 and advanced firearms on Table 3–5 and are not permitted in Pathfinder Society Organized Play. No character may purchase a firearm unless she possesses the Gunsmithing feat and firearms are never considered Always Available; a character must pos
29:44 <Longshot> sess enough Fame to purchase any firearm not found on a Chronicle sheet or granted by a class feature. All ammunition except metal cartridges may be purchased.
29:51 <Longshot> Thats what it says word for word
38:48 <Longshot> so with 2 of them, thats 6 shots a turn(once each weapon, rapidfire), and you should have enough fame to buy them by level 3. 
39:10 <Longshot> Which is incredibly cheesy. Wonder if anyone has ever actually done it.
39:48 <Steven> yes
39:56 <Steven> it has 
40:17 <Longshot> does it one hit kill most level 2 encounters and make all the other players feel useless?
40:23 <Mekkis> would you?
40:27 <Mekkis> if someone did that?
40:32 <Longshot> level 3*
40:47 <Longshot> would i what?
41:20 <Mekkis> feel useless if someone came along and one-hit killed most encounters?
41:43 <Longshot> yeah definitely, thats what i was saying haha
41:59 <Longshot> takes the fun out of it if someone can just go into god mode and boom boom boom scenario over
42:06 <spider21b> hum?
43:30 <Longshot> but im sure that gunslinger would have weaknesses just like any other one trick pony
43:42 <Wrothmonk> misfires?
43:48 <Longshot> misfires
43:50 <Longshot> darkness
43:53 <Steven> misfires... all day.
44:05 <Steven> depends on if you're an alt race
44:09 <Longshot> although we had a blind gunslinger destroying a scenario the other day haha
44:24 <Longshot> umm how does underwater effect gunslingers?
45:02 <Wrothmonk> I believe they cant actually fire a gun unless its a specialty ammo.
45:03 <Steven> -2 att/5ft
45:20 <Wrothmonk> should be under gun rules, leme check
45:21 <Longshot> also, having to be within 20 ft with low con and HP
45:25 <Longshot> and AC
45:47 <Steven> really you just basically have to have a life bubble scroll
45:56 <Steven> and then you're just dealing with firing underwanter
45:59 <Steven> water
46:04 <Steven> which is -2 att/5ft
46:11 <Steven> that still resolves vs touch.
46:14 <Wrothmonk> Firearms, Black Powder, and Water: Black powder becomes useless when exposed to water, but powder horns and cartridges protect black powder from exposure. You cannot normally load an early firearm underwater or fire any firearm underwater without magical aid.
46:32 <Longshot> so basically ALL gunslingers are screwed undewater
46:37 <Wrothmonk> yes.
46:48 <Mekkis> I'd say about 60% of characters are
47:09 <Longshot> is that really common though?
47:15 <Wrothmonk> unless you have dry load
47:25 <Mekkis> off-hand I can think of three scenarios with underwater combat
53:34 <Steven> we should totally play a game.
53:45 <Mekkis> Heresy of man II
53:59 <Wrothmonk> I think I may have done that one.
54:07 <Wrothmonk> could be pt 1
54:19 <Steven> nope not heresy of man
54:28 <Steven> i've GMed that thing too damned much
54:33 <Mekkis> Echoes 2
54:57 <Steven> nope, hate that series
54:58 <Wrothmonk> actually, I havent.
55:08 <Longshot> actually, looking at the math, its not really that overpowered. -4 for shooting 2 times with double barrel, -2 for rapid shot. Assume average touch AC is 14, that means with point blank shot and masterwork pistol you need a 12 to hit
55:19 <Longshot> so less than 3 of those shots are hitting a turn
55:30 <Longshot> not taking cover or melee into account
56:07 <Steven> the Dex a gunslinger is likely to have 18-20 takes it down to a -1-2 for all that stuff
56:12 <Steven> and its a full bab class
56:37 <Steven> so your likely at zero loss, or even better
56:49 <Steven> specially if you can get weapon focus
56:59 <Longshot> i was doing all that math assuming 18 dex
57:04 <Longshot> so +4 for dex
57:07 <Longshot> +3 for BAB
57:18 <Longshot> +1 for masterwork, +1 for point blank
57:29 <Steven> and by level 3-4 when you can afford that pistol, its so damned easy to get a positive score.
57:57 <Longshot> -4 for double barrel. -2 for rapidshot. I think there is another minus for using 2 weapons
57:57 <Steven> 5 dex, 3 bab, 1 masterwork, 1 weapon focus.
58:18 <Longshot> point blank as well
58:28 <Longshot> since you are in point blank range when targeting touch
58:30 <Steven> so +11 modifier
58:38 <Longshot> -4 for double barrel
58:43 <Longshot> -2 for rapidshot
58:49 <Longshot> -2 (i think) for using 2 guns
59:02 <Steven> then -4 for pulling both barrels, -2 rapid shot, -2 for dual wielding
59:17 <Mekkis> then an enemy sunders your gun
59:19 <Longshot> so total of +3 then
59:21 <Steven> the downside is you spend a lot of cash on bullets
59:26 <Longshot> still only about 3 shots a turn
59:32 <Longshot> or an enemy sunders your gun haha
59:41 <Steven> enemies dont usually sunder guns
59:45 <Mekkis> ?firearm
59:46 <Steven> or sunder anything realy
59:48 <diebot> Mekkis, Of all the forms of technology [...] from the lands of the Inner Sea, none are as universally misunderstood or despised as the firearm. [...] The appearance of a firearm suggests at once an outrageous expenditure of gold, a sorrowful impotence of limb, and an immediate threat of dishonorable violence.
00:04 <Mekkis> I think it'd be reasonable for them to do so
00:08 <Steven> because what would i rather do, sunder your weapon and have you pull another one
00:13 <Steven> or just hit you really fucking hard and kill you.
00:24 <Mekkis> guns are expensive
00:41 <Longshot> so its about 12 damage a turn at level 3
01:14 <Longshot> level 5 you add dex to damage though 
01:52 <Longshot> so thats 27 a turn, still not really matching up to other dpr builds
02:18 <Steven> its why if your doing the double barrel build you go pistolero
02:39 <Steven> and spend a grit point then ALL of your attacks that round do an extra 1d6 on a hit or 1d3 on a miss.
03:16 <Steven> so with 3 hits you do 3d8+3d6 and 3d3 damage.
04:25 <Longshot> so about 50 damage per round if you're using grit
04:28 <Steven> the build is crazy
04:30 <Longshot> at level 5
04:40 <Steven> no at level 5 you do a fuck ton of damage
04:41 <Longshot> is that a lot of damage for level 5?
04:52 <Steven> because you'll have enough time to pick up deadly aim
04:56 <Longshot> thats true
04:57 <Steven> with feat selection
05:17 <Steven> so you will take another -2 Attack but pick up +4 damage a shot
05:30 <Steven> and the touch ACs havent gone up any
05:35 <Steven> so stills ame attack rage
05:48 <Steven> and you'll have picked up a +1 weapon or two by then
06:16 <Longshot> I kinda wanna play this build now. Except give him some sort of major flaw to counter the damage he puts out.
06:41 <Steven> !throw 8#1d8+10+1d6
06:42 <diebot> Steven, 8#1d8+10+1d6: [1d8=7; 1d6=6] 23, [1d8=2; 1d6=1] 13, [1d8=1; 1d6=2] 13, [1d8=7; 1d6=5] 22, [1d8=1; 1d6=6] 17, [1d8=7; 1d6=5] 22, [1d8=8; 1d6=4] 22, [1d8=1; 1d6=3] 14
07:08 <Steven> so thats around how much damage you do at 6th level
07:25 <Wrothmonk> dayum
07:43 <Longshot> How does that stack up to like a barbarian though?
07:47 <Steven> the pistolero double barrel pistol build is crazy.
08:12 <Wrothmonk> so I end up sacrificing quite a bit with multiclassing myrimidarch with gunslinger.
08:39 <Steven> well you can do around 150 damage a round at level 6
08:50 <Steven> but you will spend 42 gold to do it
08:57 <Steven> and your gun can misfire
09:04 <Steven> and then you will have to clear it.
09:23 <Longshot> or just ignore that gun and use just the other one until it misfires as well
09:46 <Steven> a barb can swing and miss, doing zero damage or hit and do 50 damage with one hit
09:54 <Steven> or crit and do around 150 or so damage
10:03 <spider21b> barbs are good at that
10:17 <Wrothmonk> however you have a higher chance of missing since its vs normal ac?
10:20 <Steven> its just you're less likely to be hit back because you're further away
10:39 <Steven> where as the barb is toe to toe
11:10 <Longshot> 20 feet isn't THAT far back haha
11:21 <Steven> further back then the barbarian though
11:35 <Steven> really gunslingers do about as much damage as a decent barb
12:05 <Wrothmonk> Hey, I havent done before the darn pt 2 yet, I have done pt 1 though.
12:29 <Wrothmonk> before the dawn*
12:29 <Steven> My musketmaster does 3#1d12+15
12:55 <Longshot> how many of those 3 shots hit on average though?
13:03 <Steven> all of them
13:06 <Brunius> Yeah. but they can do it from 40" away
13:09 <Steven> +11/+11/+6
13:10 <Brunius> uh
13:13 <Brunius> 40' rather
13:33 <Wrothmonk> 40" would be closer than 20' :P
13:33 <Longshot> what level is he?
14:06 <Mekkis> at least 6
14:24 <Steven> 5gunslinger/4Inquisitor
14:39 <Steven> rapidshot deadly aim
14:53 <Steven> his big thing is going first in combats
15:14 <Steven> which i picked improved initative finally
15:18 <Steven> so hes got +17 now.
15:46 <Steven> hes a special build though
16:02 <Longshot> thats how i built my witch to be. She's got +10 at level 1
16:31 <Steven> brb phone
16:38 <Longshot> And thats without improved initiative
16:57 <Wrothmonk> how?
16:57 <Brunius> How.
17:08 <Longshot> +2 from dex
17:13 <Longshot> +4 from familiar
17:20 <Longshot> +2 from reactionary trait
17:35 <Longshot> +2 from fleet-footed alternate racial trait for elves
17:58 <Wrothmonk> nice.
18:16 <Longshot> she still needs one more trait though
18:23 <Mekkis> Sounds expensive. You'll need to own a lot of books to make that legal
18:31 <Longshot> i think im going to go with +1 fortitude save
18:50 <Wrothmonk> oh and longshot, gunslingers dont exactly have low ac. Mine has 18 at level 1 with studded leather.
18:53 <Brunius> I wouldn't think that would be worth the loss of keen sense and weapon familiarity
19:08 <Longshot> what weapons does a witch need to be familiar with, really though? haha
19:11 <Mekkis> High initiative means first to die!
19:58 <Mekkis> (of the seven characters who died in the last three weeks at tables I've been at, five of them had +7 or higher to initiative!)
20:24 <Wrothmonk> levels and classes please?
20:25 <Brunius> Was it because they built for high initiative instead of ac
20:35 <Wrothmonk> easily key factors.
20:38 <Longshot> and yeah, the keen sense hit is meh. but most people max perception anyways, so I don't need it as badly ;)
21:32 <Longshot> and I think all casting classes should have higher initiatives. Especially if they are focused on debuffs and battlefield control
21:34 <Mekkis> Wizard5/ranger1/eldritch knight 1; fighter 1/rogue 3; wizard 6; summoner4/gunslinger 1; 
21:37 <Mekkis> ummm...
21:40 <Mekkis> not sure what else there was
22:23 <Mekkis> Longshot, I think you should play more before you make sweeping statements like that
23:17 <Longshot> Well it can only help, yeah? If you get a slow or a grease off before the enemy is able to move in 30 ft closer, thats good, right?
23:44 <Mekkis> I can think of several times where high initiative can KILL you
23:59 <Mekkis> ok: you're surprised, so you roll initiative.
24:26 <Mekkis> You get highest. The enemy who surprised you acts in the surprise round, dropping you to -CON+1 HP.
24:34 <Mekkis> Then it's your turn, you fail stabilisation and die.
24:53 <Mekkis> If your initiative was low, a teammate could have saved you!
25:13 <Wrothmonk> somebody would have filled in that gap anyway.
25:39 <Mekkis> You have high initiative. You've been poisoned. Your teammates can't act to help you until after you've failed your second save and taken your second 1d6 con damage
25:51 <Wrothmonk> is this getting through?
25:53 <Wrothmonk> ah
26:00 <Longshot> you can't choose to take a later spot in the initiative order?
26:00 <Wrothmonk> for some reason I couldnt send for a sec.
26:13 <Longshot> i though highest initiative could pick whatever initiative spot they wanted
26:16 <Mekkis> You have high initiative. You charge the enemy. They respond by full-attacking you into oblivion.
26:18 <Wrothmonk> somebody has to have the highest init.
27:28 <Mekkis> You have high initiative. You cast a spell on an enemy. Their tactics say "$NPC starts by casting Feeblemind on the first spellcaster he sees". You get feebleminded and enjoy the rest of the combat as a blithering idiot
28:10 <Wrothmonk> again, somebody would be that person in any case regardless.
28:10 <Longshot> so there are pros and cons to both high and low initiative, then :P
28:16 <Mekkis> exactly.
28:23 <Mekkis> and there are times when high initiative is bad
28:32 <Wrothmonk> initiative doesn't come into it.
28:46 <Mekkis> it does
28:52 <Mekkis> stabilisation rolls happen on your turn
29:01 <Mekkis> poison hits you on your turn
29:02 <Wrothmonk> yes
29:05 <Longshot> can you not delay your turn in that case?
29:06 <Wrothmonk> and yes.
29:07 <Mekkis> being on fire damages you on your turn
29:21 <Wrothmonk> HOWEVER somebody would have gotten hit with that stuff ANYWAY
29:24 <Mekkis> and NO, you can't delay your burning, or your poisoning, or your dying
29:26 <Wrothmonk> regardless of init
29:35 <Mekkis> let's take the first situation
30:04 <Mekkis> You get surprised. You get low initiative. The enemy who surprised you acts in the surprise round, dropping you to -CON+1 HP.
30:09 <Wrothmonk> ok, in that case somebody has to have the highest init of the party.
30:17 <Wrothmonk> if they get hit, they would die
30:21 <Mekkis> Your friendly cleric, who had average initiative, goes over, and heals you.
30:27 <Mekkis> Outcome: you are Not dead.
30:44 <Wrothmonk> what if the cleric got hit instead of you?
30:57 <Mekkis> then that would be a different situation
30:57 <Steven> Dont let mekkis scare you with horror stories of high init character meeting the axe because some NPC did something horrible
31:01 <Longshot> or if the figher who DID have the highest initiative got hit
31:27 <Mekkis> Then the fighter should have put his feat into Toughness rather than Improved Initiative :{
31:43 <Steven> because its also very important to note that if you have low init, and someone acts in a surprise round they charge you get a hit off, and then very likely get to go again before its your turn, meaning they get another attack on you before you act.
31:55 <Mekkis> Steven does have a point too.
31:56 <Longshot> haha the only people i've seen with toughness has been casters
32:09 <Steven> which has been the cause of far more deaths then the corner cases mekkis points out
32:16 <Mekkis> But the sweeping statement about "High Initiative" is a sweeping statement.
32:25 <Wrothmonk> which you are making.
32:32 <Mekkis> Longshot was making it
32:45 <Mekkis> my point was "that's not always the case"
32:46 <Wrothmonk> you are making a sweeping statement that high init gets you killed.
32:53 <Mekkis> no
33:02 <Mekkis> I'm saying that high init CAN get you killed.
33:13 <Steven> no he was pointing out corner cases where having high init doesnt help.
33:53 <Steven> typically its better to have higher init then lower init as a damage dealing class
34:12 <Steven> and as a healing class its usually okay to have a lower init
34:24 <Mekkis> I would agree with that, but I would add that increasing init by 4 or so still isn't that important.
34:31 <Longshot> What about a battlefield control/ debuff the enemy class?
34:39 <Steven> either ore.
34:43 <Steven> either or even
35:03 <Steven> with higher init you get a debuff before an enemy gets to act, but you dont know any of the capibilities of that enemy
35:15 <Steven> where as lower they get their action and then you know a little more
35:17 <Longshot> good knowledge check you might
35:27 <Steven> but usually its at the expense of someone
35:27 <Mekkis> high init -> cast haste is probably the best you can achieve.
35:28 <Mekkis> really
35:54 <Steven> yup, casting haste as a first action in high init is usually totaly fucking money.
35:54 <Longshot> or cast some kind of wall spell and keep an enemy or two out of the fight for a turn or three
36:11 <Steven> because then the enemies charge in
36:17 <Steven> get their one attack
36:20 <Steven> and then just get raped.
37:10 <Mekkis> I'd rather a buff-focused caster than the inverse.
37:31 <Steven> but in combat its best to have something to do no matter whats happening
37:32 <Brunius> I don't know what the inverse would be
37:36 <Mekkis> less to worry about: no saves or SR, for starters
37:38 <Steven> debuff focused
37:52 <Longshot> yeah, like witches
38:01 <Mekkis> (the problem with my cleric is that he often has nothing to do)
38:13 <Steven> Yeah i was GMing, there was a witch in the party
38:37 <Steven> she cast 3 lightning bolts a balefull polymorph and an acid arrow... none of it bypassed SR
38:51 <Longshot> had she used any of her hexes first?
38:55 <Steven> yup
39:06 <Longshot> Well look at that.
39:18 <Longshot> I'd probably have done a slumber hex or sleep spell instead.
39:19 <Steven> she had an evil eye and misfortune up, cackling... and it still TPKed them
39:32 <Longshot> But thats just me.
39:38 <Steven> immune to sleep.
39:42 <Steven> bwahahahahahah!
39:58 <Wrothmonk> you are a sadistic pathfinder killer steven.
40:14 <Longshot> well, what was the enemy? low fort save, reflex save, will save?
40:16 <Steven> nah
40:29 <Steven> its just a nasty boss... i dunno who wrote it... but they were assholes
40:46 <Steven> everyone int he party were humans
40:58 <Steven> ranger that did +12 damage every attack to humans
41:06 <Steven> that attacked 5 times in a round
41:21 <Steven> sorry not +12
41:34 <Steven> +10 total
41:38 <Mekkis> oh
41:42 <Mekkis> that was a fun scenario
41:51 <Steven> dude that scenario is bullshit
42:00 <Steven> that thing...
42:03 <Longshot> well if it was one guy then i probably wouldn't have debuffed saves then
42:04 <Mekkis> you should write a scenario, Steven !
42:17 <Steven> hi imma double cone...
42:21 <Longshot> i would have debuffed AC or attack or something
42:26 <Steven> hope you have evasion.
42:37 <Mekkis> oh
42:40 <Mekkis> I remember that one
42:46 <Longshot> and blindness instead of sleep.
42:51 <Mekkis> That was very anticlimactic for me.
42:59 <Mekkis> Longshot, still needs to pass SR
43:08 <Steven> SR was what killed her
43:16 <Steven> otherwise they would have been totaly okay
43:24 <Mekkis> Deceased hit it with a Phantasmal Killer, beat SR, failed will save, failed fort save.
43:26 <Steven> -6 to saves rolling twice.
43:44 <Mekkis> very anticlimactic
43:48 <Steven> if she could have gotten even ONE lightning bolt
43:58 <Steven> would have saved everyone
44:03 <Mekkis> true, the sorcerer was on the ground, bleeding out.
44:05 <Longshot> someone should have intimidated for -8
44:06 <Longshot> or something
44:16 <Steven> the ranger dude just murdered the barbarian.  One round.
44:41 <Mekkis> (but Deceased has spell penetration, greater spell penetration, and is an elf
45:08 <Steven> hit every single attack, from full raging health to true death
46:12 <Longshot> woof
46:23 <Wrothmonk> ?
46:33 <Longshot> thats tough
47:00 <Steven> god i love it when somebody smarts off to brock
47:08 <Steven> and then when brock replies they are a jerk
47:22 <Wrothmonk> Who said what?
47:22 <Steven> and so brock just removes them from the conversatino.
47:55 <Steven> and then when brock replies [edit] and [/edit] they are a jerk
48:11 <Longshot> well i need to get some Zs before work in the morning, see you guys later
48:23 <Steven> i wish you could see, but the entire post is deleted now.
48:23 <Mekkis> I've developed a theory: if I get in a flame-war in a rules question thread, maybe they'll answer the question.
48:29 <Mekkis> let's see what happens.
48:53 <Steven> yeah.... let me know how that goes for ya
48:58 <Mekkis> we'll see
50:31 <Mekkis> wow
50:36 <Mekkis> they cracked Simcity!
50:45 <Wrothmonk> ?
51:05 <Mekkis> you know, EA's version of Simcity that's online-only with shitty servers
51:19 <Wrothmonk> yup
51:20 <Mekkis> and a hell of a lot of DRM
51:26 <Mekkis> they cracked it.
51:28 <Wrothmonk> I cant stop hearing about it.
51:39 <Mekkis> http://sceper.ws/2013/06/simcity-drmless-beta-crack-vulpeszedra.html
51:47 <Wrothmonk> ah.
52:02 <Wrothmonk> I give it a month before they get private servers.
52:23 <Mekkis> nope
52:31 <Mekkis> they've already got the software
52:36 <Mekkis> http://nfo.sceper.ws/nfo/SimCity.DRMLESS.Beta.Crack-VULPESZEDRA.png
53:01 <Steven> alright, i should probably stop delaying.
53:07 <Mekkis> yeah
53:12 <Mekkis> TAKE YOUR TURN ALREADY!
53:20 <Mekkis> you're Goodalling
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53:22 <Steven> brb, gotta go get my dad some tissues, aparantly hes not feeling well 
54:05 <Steven> Oh shut it before i bend your nipple shut!
54:13 * Steven throws intimidate.
54:29 <Mekkis> take +4 for being larger than me
54:40 * Steven shrugs
54:55 <Steven> ugh i dont want to go...
55:00 <Steven> i hate that fucking store
55:07 <Steven> and if i go over to my dads house hes gonna wanna talk
55:10 <Steven> which means imma get sick
55:14 <Steven> and fuck that noise
56:01 <Mekkis> want me to give you a phone call in 20 minutes?
56:08 <Steven> no
56:42 <Steven> think im just gonna drop em off and then tell him im tired
56:43 <Steven> then bail
56:49 <Steven> it might work
56:53 <Steven> i give it 50/50
57:25 <Steven> OH WAIT!
57:31 <Steven> imma change into my PJs
57:37 <Steven> its up to 75/25 now!
57:52 <Steven> genius farmer!
59:12 <spider21b> hi!
12:03 <Mekkis> hi'
12:14 <Mekkis> get a horse
32:23 <Steven> SHUT UP WOMAN GET ON MY HORSE!
34:10 <Steven> got harassed by the po po
34:27 <Steven> they pulled some dude over in the parkinglot
34:36 <Steven> give him a ticket
34:45 <Mekkis> you should have shot them all
34:50 <Steven> and one of them got back in their car as i was walking back out to my car
35:09 <Steven> and i aparantly got in his way
35:26 <Mekkis> you should have shot them all
35:29 <Steven> he didnt have his flashers on
35:39 <Steven> so he honked and i just kept walking
35:45 <Steven> cause i dont hurry up for anyone
35:53 <Steven> so his buddy cop was like sir get over here now
35:56 <Steven> and i was like what for?
36:04 <Steven> and he was like obstructing the flow of traffic
36:12 <Steven> and i shouted back, parking lot.
36:57 <Steven> and he shouted back sir over here now and did this two finger fetch motion and i was like, if you got something to say you can come over here and say it cause if i come over there im gettin your badge number and filing a complaint
37:51 <Brunius|M> Tl;Dr two cops on a power trip
38:37 <Steven> and he was like next time just get out of the way! to which i responded, Were in washington, last i checked while walking im a pedestrian, dont the state laws dictate i have right of way?  Yeah i think it does.  Next time dont harass the public!
38:38 <Mekkis> you should have shot them all
39:03 <Steven> fuckin hate the late night cops in this town.
39:07 <Steven> specially during the summer
39:15 <Mekkis> why didn't you shoot them all?
39:45 <Steven> they all go stupid because they they dont have the college kids to keep them busy, so they start bein royal pains in the ass to the year round residents
41:38 <Steven> also mekkis
41:47 <Steven> I didnt have my gun on me
42:03 <Steven> i was just runnin to the store, and didnt want to put socks on
43:21 <Steven> otherwise, totes would have had my .38 in my ankle holster
43:51 <Steven> which i really should renew my concealed carry...
44:20 <Steven> it expires in 2 days short of 2 months
45:17 <Mekkis_x200> fair enough
46:19 <Mekkis_x200> Steven, you should flame me on the Heighten spell debate
46:33 <Steven> no
46:45 <Wrothmonk> heighten spell?
47:16 <Steven> jeeeeeeeeeeze
47:23 <Steven> i wish i hadnt moved to washington
47:36 <Steven> 52 bucks
48:47 <Steven> idaho was like 20 bucks +15 renewal
48:54 <spider21b> i wish, i could get ek to work better
49:35 <Steven> i wish moving 8 miles didnt cost me triple on a concealed carry permit
51:22 <Steven> damn it....
51:53 <Steven> i've never needed it, but i know that soon as i dont get it renewed and cant legally carry it... BAM gonna need it
52:22 <Steven> plus it freaks cops out when they pull me over for driving aound midnight
52:31 <Steven> and they ask me if i have any weapons on me, and im like yes I do.
52:40 <Steven> theres a .38 snub in my left boot
52:52 <Steven> and they instantly go on point.
54:04 <Steven> then they take it out, and ask me if i have a permit
56:23 <Steven> my moms giving me a pelet gun to snipe the cats that live under my house
57:45 <Steven> fucking hate the little bastards
57:49 <Steven> they drive my dogs crazy
00:52 <Mekkis_x200> cops pull you over for driving around midnight?!
02:19 <Steven> yeah, in the summer
02:24 <Steven> they get bored
02:34 <Steven> and around midnight is usually when im going to the store
02:51 <Avatar> do they tell you they are bored
02:53 <Mekkis_x200> I've never been pulled over....
03:19 <Steven> no avatar, they usually tell me i didnt use my blinker, or i wasnt wearing my seat belt
03:44 <Avatar> then how do you know
04:24 <Steven> because during the school year when all the kids are in town, i dont get pulled over
04:43 <Steven> but during the summer break, winter break, spring break, and thanksgiving weekends
04:46 <Steven> i get pulled over
05:11 <Steven> so, when they dont have anything else to do... they make shit up and pull people over for no reason
05:41 <Steven> like i was driving one time, cop passed me when i was doing 55 in a 55mph zone.
06:06 <Steven> he then slowed down, got back in my lane and pulled me over
06:15 <Steven> and proceeded to tell me i was going 63mph
06:55 <Avatar> then what happened
07:27 <Steven> he got a lecture
08:29 <Steven> i explained to him how acceleration and velocity worked.
08:51 <Steven> then told him i'd gladly take a ticket if he wanted to write himself a ticket for speeding.
09:25 <Steven> he told me he was allowed to go faster than the speed limit to catch bad guys.
09:53 <Steven> and i told him he could only do that while actively persuing a criminal and only when he had his lights going.
10:01 <Steven> and thats when he told me i was a criminal
10:08 <Steven> because i was speeding.... when he passed me.
10:27 <Mekkis_x200> do they actually say "bad guys" like that?
10:46 <Steven> they use the word suspects
11:16 <Steven> but as dumb as he was, i wouldnt be surprised if he used the word bad guys when describing people hes arrested
12:37 <Steven> ive been pulled over around 30-40 times in my life
12:40 <Steven> i
12:46 <Steven> i've gotten a ticket once
13:07 <Mekkis_x200> you should go somewhere where you don't get pulled over
13:14 <Steven> because my lisence had expired before my new one arrived in the mail.
13:47 <Steven> the police officer actually lectured me on civic responsability
14:21 <Steven> and when i told him i had renewed it in the mail, but it had yet to arrive, he accused me of back talking him and wrote me the ticket
14:57 <Steven> i then went into the prosecuting attorney's office, explained the situation
15:06 <Steven> and they asked me how many tickets i've gotten in my life
15:15 <Steven> i was like, including this ticket, One.
15:32 <Steven> he gave me a very cool piece of paper that informed the judge to expunge it from my record.
15:38 <Steven> pretty sweet stuff.
17:39 <Steven> i kinda get the cops in this town though, they deal with drunken college kids so often that they are programmed to be assholes to get the point across.
19:51 <Steven> i may be back in a bit.
19:58 <Steven> depends if i find something to read or not.
25:50 <Mekkis_x200> Hmm... Bulga wheat + onion + chicken + garlic
45:12 <Mekkis_x200> !spell holy smite
45:14 <diebot> Mekkis_x200, HOLY SMITE evocation ([good]) cleric 4, inquisitor 4 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)  Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous (1 round); see text Save: Will partial; see text SR:yes
45:15 <diebot> You draw down holy power to smite your enemies. Only evil and neutral creatures are harmed by the spell; good creatures are unaffected. The spell deals 1d8 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 5d8) to each evil creature in the area (or 1d6 points of damage per caster level, maximum 10d6, to an evil outsider) and causes it to become
45:15 <diebot> blinded for 1 round. A successful Will saving throw reduces damage to half and negates the blinded effect. The spell deals only half damage to creatures who are neither good nor evil, and they are not blinded. Such a creature can reduce that damage by half (down to one-quarter of the roll) with a successful Will save.
52:45 <Mekkis_x200> Staff of Dark Flame or Staff of many rays?
02:21 <Mekkis_x200> hmmm.. Disintegrate, or Animate Dead
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31:24 <Brunius|M> Disintegrate
32:03 <Mekkis_x200> I think Dark Flame is slightly cheaper
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