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01:31:42 <Ampera> >ok guys I go for dinner
01:31:58 <Ampera> nice to see tweens on IRC I guess
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01:37:45 <Lord_of_nothing> Hi
02:01:20 <steve30> hi
02:02:44 * steve30 needs coffee
02:03:44 <Ampera> hi steve30
02:13:45 <Lord_of_nothing> some one from europe here?
02:15:37 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, I have a european citizenship, but I'm in the US
02:16:05 <desu> a kid in my elementary school had US citizenship and would always brag about it
02:16:34 <Ampera> desu, shut up
02:16:48 <desu> no
02:16:57 <Ampera> fair enough
02:17:43 <Lord_of_nothing> the criminals was send to the us so no wonder why the still never ever change there behavior.
02:18:13 <desu> no that's australia
02:18:24 <Lord_of_nothing> not only
02:18:39 <Ampera> desu, that's an old joke, now all the stabbists and terrorist get sent to the UK, Germany, and Sweden.
02:18:47 <Lord_of_nothing> the religous phaniatics where also send the north america
02:19:21 <Ampera> they weren't exactly /sent/, most of the time, they were unfavourably encouraged to leave by society
02:19:23 <Lord_of_nothing> Well Merkel invited the muslim to europe who got bombed before by the us, germany
02:19:32 <Lord_of_nothing> and other nato states
02:19:45 <Lord_of_nothing> so i lought at the germans
02:19:52 <desu> i thought the majority of at least early US immigrants immigrated for religious reasons
02:19:56 <Ampera> that's the best watering down of the migrant crisis I've ever heard
02:20:16 <Ampera> desu, they did, beause the UK had fairly tense religious friction at the time, and even now
02:20:30 <desu> yeah brit church is weird
02:20:34 <desu> angelicans
02:20:54 <Lord_of_nothing> not only that
02:20:58 <Lord_of_nothing> mormons
02:21:14 <desu> mormons didn't exist in europe
02:21:15 <Lord_of_nothing> and that what tom cruise is in
02:21:32 <Ampera> tom cruise was a scientologist
02:21:42 <Lord_of_nothing> another cult...
02:21:42 <Ampera> which is like mormonism, but completely different and not a religion
02:21:49 <desu> the mormon church is actually pretty cool
02:21:55 <desu> they encurage their members to be prepared
02:21:57 <Ampera> [citation needed]
02:21:58 <desu> with guns and food
02:21:58 * steve30 coffees
02:22:01 <steve30> I'm tired.
02:22:12 <Ampera> they also ban masturbation, so
02:22:22 <Lord_of_nothing> wtf
02:22:24 <Ampera> it's not like you need to be a mormon to buy guns and food in the US
02:22:25 <desu> good
02:22:27 <Lord_of_nothing> i cant life without
02:22:43 <desu> excess mastrubation is bad
02:22:44 <Ampera> I mean to be honest, I've never masturbated in my life, but I wouldn't become a mormon either
02:23:05 <Ampera> excess anything is bad, that doesn't make it immoral, nor a reason to join an entire school of thought
02:23:17 <Lord_of_nothing> well you might craft your own toy for...
02:23:25 <desu> also banning mastrubation seems like kind of a impossible rule to enforce
02:23:41 <Ampera> if you exercise hard enough you'll fuck your body and mind up, so I suggest the formation of the church of obesity
02:23:48 <Lord_of_nothing> haha thats why to shoot with guns...
02:23:51 <Ampera> desu, because it's not
02:24:00 <Ampera> it's like muslims and booze, they say they don't, but they do
02:24:07 <Ampera> just because it's a rule doesn't mean people don't break it
02:24:27 <Lord_of_nothing> you are a racist!
02:24:36 <Lord_of_nothing> I have all religous.
02:24:47 <Ampera> in what way did I even mention a race
02:24:50 <desu> yeah dunno
02:24:58 <desu> some muslims don't seem to care about their own rules
02:25:13 <desu> yet try to bring sharia to europe
02:25:19 <Ampera> if a rule meant people didn't do something, we wouldn't need police nor prison
02:25:22 <Lord_of_nothing> so why does the claim them self muslims?
02:25:39 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, I claim myself to be an American Citizen, but that doesn't get revoked if I break a law
02:25:45 <Lord_of_nothing> just try? you never visit sweden or denmarkk
02:26:23 <desu> heh danmark is actually cool
02:26:29 <desu> they are not as fucked up as sweden
02:26:43 <Lord_of_nothing> sry i men brussel
02:26:51 <Lord_of_nothing> or how it called in english
02:26:54 <Ampera> you're all fucked
02:26:57 <desu> uh belgium
02:27:06 <Lord_of_nothing> the capitol?
02:27:09 <desu> i think
02:27:10 <desu> oh
02:27:12 <desu> i do not know
02:27:15 <Lord_of_nothing> in german Brüssel.
02:27:31 <desu> it is the same i think
02:27:37 <desu> without the ü
02:27:40 <desu> just a regular u
02:27:49 <Ampera> we might have a retarded carrot calling some of the shots, raping the economy with a 5 inch dick that's bankrupted himself more times than he broke even, but at least we can call the prophet muhammad a pedophile without it becomming a case infront of the EU court of human rights
02:27:56 <Lord_of_nothing> Molenbeck is the buzzword
02:28:07 <desu> Lol
02:28:11 <Ampera> Belgium with the capitol city of Brussels
02:28:14 <desu> the orange fool
02:28:44 <Ampera> the thing is he still can't do a whole lot, and we've had people who were just as bad
02:28:44 <desu> well just be happy hillary didn't get elected i guess
02:28:46 <Ampera> many times before
02:28:58 <Ampera> I'm not happy either of them were candidates
02:28:59 <desu> i don't like trump either but he's the best of the two
02:29:22 <Ampera> the only advantage is to see brainless chucklecunts going on about how he's going to start gassing mexicans or some shit
02:29:27 <desu> are you voting for yang 2020
02:29:36 <Ampera> no, I'm voting for Bernie Sanders
02:29:38 <desu> he will give everone 1000$ a month
02:29:48 <Ampera> yang will?
02:29:50 <Lord_of_nothing> the us election is when you have to choose between pest and colera
02:30:01 <desu> yeah
02:30:04 <desu> he's for universal income
02:30:16 <Ampera> right then
02:30:20 <Ampera> another child left behind
02:30:50 <Ampera> I guess nobody answered him when he asked "why doesn't the government just give everyone money" as a child
02:31:19 <desu> seems unrealistic to try to implement something like that in the US
02:31:27 <Ampera> I'm voting Sanders in the primary, but he'll probably loose because creepy uncle biden has all of the boomer cunts voting for him because, lol obama
02:31:36 <desu> maybe in a euro country it'd work because we don't have as many people
02:31:40 <desu> but the US is huge
02:31:48 <Lord_of_nothing> well us is bancrupt
02:31:50 <Ampera> desu, it's not only unrealistic, it's completely and economically useless and dangerous
02:32:33 <Ampera> The US has a GDP, giving everyone money doesn't increase the power to use our own resoruces or buy the resources from other nation for individual benefit
02:32:48 <Ampera> it doesn't fix any supply chain inequalities nor class inequalities either
02:32:59 <Lord_of_nothing> the only thinks what the us military can stop if the have no money for gas left
02:33:06 <Ampera> all it does is waste a load of money, and water down the US dollar to the point where nobody would want to use it
02:33:15 <desu> well yeah
02:33:22 <desu> just be careful with the social dems like sanders
02:33:30 <desu> in 60 years you'll end up like europe
02:33:30 <desu> lol
02:34:11 <Ampera> He's the best option imo. Social programs are good, authoritarianism isn't, keep them seperate, it's doable.
02:34:59 <Ampera> I see social programs as tools to improve the overall efficiency and output of the economy by increasing people with jobs, and creating better education
02:35:25 <Lord_of_nothing> Social programs are only good when the people behave as the should and not as bastards
02:35:34 <desu> no they aren't
02:35:36 <desu> i have been to those
02:35:41 <desu> its esentially i ahuge time waste
02:35:48 <desu> to keep people occupied
02:36:00 <Lord_of_nothing> in germany many zig and muslim life from there criminal life and social system
02:36:42 <Lord_of_nothing> there are many huge family clans from lebanon
02:36:53 <Ampera> In my state of New York, we have free state college, but they require you to live and work in the state for however long you've gone to the state college
02:37:08 <Lord_of_nothing> and the gov dont care because it would be politicaly not correct to talk about
02:37:20 <Ampera> it's only for people who make under 125k/year in a household, and it's designed to funnel trained labor directly into the state's economic output
02:37:20 <desu> that's a social programme done right i think
02:37:26 <desu> you have to do something to get something
02:37:58 <Ampera> That's how it works. Offer a service, but don't do it for nothing, and ENSURE the person who is getting that service is using it responsibly in a way that will make back on that investment to society.
02:38:05 <Lord_of_nothing> well i will be honnest its not the best idea for people who get refugy status and dont can legaly work
02:38:09 <Ampera> It's not give everyone a thousand bucks a month.
02:38:49 <Ampera> From what I've heard, the refugee system in Europe is fucked. I didn't read up on it, so I can't tell if what I know is true or not, but what I can say is how a refugeee system should work.
02:38:51 <Lord_of_nothing> there only income is illegal stuff like drug dealing or illegal work (sure the most are from the lowest part of the socity)
02:39:26 <Ampera> Intake refugees, find them labor as fast as possible, keep an eye on them, if they break laws, threaten to kick them right back out
02:39:40 <Lord_of_nothing> how should a goat farmer finde a job in a country where the should speak german
02:40:01 <Ampera> Find them a job, it doesn't matter if it's something government assisted where they pay more than it's worth
02:40:05 <Lord_of_nothing> the main problem the must learn and undertand the language
02:40:11 <Ampera> the point is to have them contibute /something/
02:40:19 <Lord_of_nothing> do you think we have a lof oft jobs here?
02:40:24 <desu> also forbid them to marry whites
02:40:28 <Ampera> ^ no
02:40:52 <Ampera> There's always something that needs to be done in a nation, even if it's painting a bridge
02:40:54 <Lord_of_nothing> expecialy here in austria where CZ, SK, HU, SI,... is next door
02:41:19 <Ampera> Focus on getting them educated, if they show dedication to improving their lives, offer the potential for citizenship
02:41:21 <Lord_of_nothing> the cleaning jobs did your eastern nightboar worker
02:41:45 <Ampera> If they're doing nothing and getting government money, they are doing it wrong.
02:41:54 <Lord_of_nothing> sure
02:42:08 <Lord_of_nothing> thats what the asyl industry want
02:42:08 <Ampera> Broom and dustpan is 15 bucks, if you're getting food anyways, go clean the city
02:42:38 <Ampera> If the situation is so dire that they need to be in the nation, they should show some effort in commitment to remain there
02:42:46 <Lord_of_nothing> in spain and italy are many illegal imigrants who work for mafia
02:43:06 <Lord_of_nothing> 15€? Romaian work for less than 5€
02:43:11 <Lord_of_nothing> Romanian
02:43:33 <Lord_of_nothing> if you need some construction work you call a polish company for
02:43:55 <Ampera> speaking of people who have problems learning and understanding languages :P
02:44:13 <Lord_of_nothing> polish dont need to speak german
02:44:22 <desu> i love the polish
02:44:55 <Ampera> no I meant you
02:44:58 <Lord_of_nothing> on a constrction work you wouldn find any who are from austria
02:45:15 <Ampera> the poles are fine
02:45:41 <Ampera> they're alright at sausage, and okay at being invaded
02:46:02 <Lord_of_nothing> i prefare frankfurter
02:47:03 <desu> also truck drivers
02:47:06 <desu> mostly polish too
02:47:35 <rust_collector> desu: you have bulgarians and poles confused
02:47:49 <desu> mostly polish
02:47:56 <Lord_of_nothing> the jews have the best mil tech
02:47:59 <desu> i can tell their polish cause they like playing polish music on boomboxes
02:48:05 <Ampera> I find the ethnic clashing in Europe funny, at least for european v european
02:48:20 <Ampera> Not that we don't have it in the US, but I think we do multiculturalism better
02:48:22 <rust_collector> but ok, if you see they have small satelite dishes on their trucks, then yes, they are polish
02:48:45 <Ampera> which is like saying we do falling down a flight of concrete stairs better, because we only break a leg, not our skull, but whatever.
02:49:12 <desu> why would that make them polish?
02:49:20 <desu> never heard of that
02:49:59 <rust_collector> It just seems to be a thing. the polish truckers tend to have the little dist to watch tv, the other ones usually do not
02:50:07 <rust_collector> dish
02:50:23 <desu> oh you can tell by the license plate
02:50:24 <Ampera> ahhh, FTA DVB-S
02:50:40 <desu> now that you say it i do think i've seen some bulgarian license plats
02:50:43 <desu> probably more than pl
02:50:50 <rust_collector> no, you can not tell by the license plate, because they are employed in a different country
02:53:19 <desu> oh well i've seen pl and bl license plats
02:53:35 <rust_collector> sure
02:53:36 <desu> but yeah the majority probably use plats registerd in the country their working in
02:53:43 <rust_collector> right
02:53:50 <desu> plates
02:54:23 <desu> do truckers have CB radio in europe?
02:54:25 <desu> lol
02:54:33 <rust_collector> some do
02:55:12 <rust_collector> it is not as common as it used to be, because of the cellphone
02:55:18 <DHess_US> They have something. I don't remember if it is CB.
02:55:34 <DHess_US> Or it might be CB with FM instead of AM.
02:55:42 <desu> yeah
02:55:47 <rust_collector> I have one in the garage, I should look at it some day
02:55:48 <desu> i think our version of CB is fm
02:55:52 <desu> at least in sweden
02:57:01 <desu> cool
02:57:04 <desu> AM, FM, SSB
03:14:58 <Lord_of_nothing> some use cb
03:15:10 <Lord_of_nothing> polish mostly
03:19:07 <Lord_of_nothing> i have an cb station under the roof
03:19:17 <Lord_of_nothing> you can tune in and try to reveive ros
03:25:01 <Lord_of_nothing> google translate: https://wien.orf.at/stories/3001481/
03:25:28 <Lord_of_nothing> https://wien.orf.at/stories/3001497/
03:36:29 <rust_collector> I started a batch of laundry. I wonder what will happen to it, maybe I get all pink doll sized clothes now
03:37:04 <rust_collector> otoh, I might look cute in that
03:48:42 <Lord_of_nothing> wear it with proud
03:49:17 <rust_collector> wife usually does this stuff, I am not sure if I have ever used this machine
03:49:49 <rust_collector> it sounds like usual, so I guess it will be ok
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04:24:03 <DHess_US> Soon, https://youtu.be/IBm6ld4wpGY?t=45
04:25:14 <DHess_US> My brother bleached my favorite sweatshirt once. Another time my favorite wool sweater was reduced to doll size.
04:45:28 <Lord_of_nothing> re
04:47:30 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjycJcd5ImQ
05:07:12 <rust_collector> now my clothes are wet, so I assume it did work
05:08:23 <rust_collector> hmm, and if I ever mention buying somethin gfrom asus, please tell me to get a lobotomy in stead
05:26:42 <Halcyon> Morning all
05:26:58 <rust_collector> hey Halcyon
05:27:04 <Halcyon> What's doing?
05:27:30 <rust_collector> I am trying to dry the clothes I just cleaned maybe
05:27:37 <Halcyon> Heh
05:27:59 <rust_collector> it is usually not my job, wife is away for a few days
05:28:51 <Halcyon> Haha aww
05:29:02 <Halcyon> Do you need to be shown how it's done? :P\
05:29:42 <rust_collector> I am not going to admit that...yet... but I am not saying I won't need some help later, lol
05:30:09 <Halcyon> If you have shirts and other items without metal buttons/zips, the microwave is your friend
05:30:32 <Halcyon> Give it 20-30 second bursts, pull it out, give it a shake and let the steam come off, repeat.
05:30:34 <DHess_US> Add some H2SO4 to the wash and once your wife gets back, you will never have to do a wash again.
05:30:50 <rust_collector> I usually dry things on the recator I got really cheap on ebay
05:31:10 <rust_collector> I have battery acid, I think... let me see
05:31:34 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to work, enjoy fellas
05:31:45 <rust_collector> work HA!
05:31:52 <rust_collector> have fun etc
08:19:42 <desu> pride
08:19:47 <desu> oh
08:19:51 <desu> i was scrolledback
08:31:40 <steve30> hi
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09:14:55 * Ampera offers a bowl of baked beans and chopped hot dogs to ThunderSqueak
09:15:14 <Ampera> I had some a few days ago, but you weren't around for it
09:15:23 * ThunderSqueak has sadly already eaten today and is saving her calories for after homework...
09:15:28 <ThunderSqueak> doing homework, and after doing part of it... all I can think is "I want a drink after this..." ...yes.... summer university classes make me want to drink
09:15:54 <Ampera> I don't think I'll ever have a drinking problem, it's just going to remind me of my mom.
09:16:03 <Ampera> and how she can't put down a fucking bottle to save her life, literally.
09:16:30 <ThunderSqueak> oh it isnt a drinking problem
09:16:39 <Ampera> I never said you had one
09:16:44 <Ampera> I just said I don't think I ever will
09:16:47 <ThunderSqueak> just saying, sick of homework
09:16:53 <ThunderSqueak> ^^
09:17:03 <Ampera> what does "^^" mean
09:17:06 <ThunderSqueak> and, I set asside 600 calories for later
09:19:33 <ThunderSqueak> a cheerful smile
09:20:01 <ThunderSqueak> having played a lot of japanese MMO
09:20:21 <ThunderSqueak> you can look up Kaomoji faces
09:20:59 <ThunderSqueak> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emoticons#Eastern
09:21:05 <ThunderSqueak> it is just a variation
09:21:41 <ThunderSqueak> a shortened version of (＾▽＾)
09:22:16 <Ampera> ^u^
09:22:31 <ThunderSqueak> or ^_^
09:23:02 <ThunderSqueak> yep
09:23:18 <Ampera> ☺️
09:23:20 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, years of playing games like ffxi and ffxiv with japanese people rubbed off :)
09:23:34 <ThunderSqueak> so I switch back and forth between different emoticons
09:23:37 <ThunderSqueak> O.o
09:23:41 <ThunderSqueak> that is one of my fav
09:23:47 <desu> jap ascii art is nice
09:24:23 <desu> well unicode art
09:24:25 <desu> i think
09:24:35 <Ampera> Code Page 437 art?
09:24:58 <desu> Shift jis
09:24:59 <desu> that's it
09:25:05 <desu> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shift_JIS_art
09:25:10 <ThunderSqueak> looking down (._.)
09:25:38 <Ampera> 🕴️
09:26:05 <Ampera> My FreeBSD doesn't want to render that, but maybe people who run computers with text rendering engines not from pre-history will have better luck
09:27:05 <ThunderSqueak> it did for me
09:27:12 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, back to homework
09:27:22 <Ampera> >:(
09:27:42 <Ampera> your client gives up no secrets
09:28:04 <desu> it's ok
09:28:10 <desu> mine dosn't either
09:28:43 <Ampera> >:(
09:28:54 <Ampera> my magic tell me your client gun isn't working
09:28:57 <Ampera> it's probably Jobe's fault
09:32:24 <desu> ＼(^o^)／
09:32:26 <desu> oh wow
09:32:31 <desu> it renders in xterm
09:32:39 <Ampera> What does?
09:32:42 <desu> what i just sent
09:32:49 <desu> can't you see it?
09:32:54 <Ampera> That looks like regular ASCII
09:32:56 <Ampera> why wouldn't it render
09:33:04 <desu> not really
09:33:07 <desu> the things to the side
09:33:13 <desu> the arms
09:33:15 <desu> are unicode i think
09:33:24 <Ampera> no those are slashes
09:33:32 <Ampera> \(^o^)/
09:33:38 <Ampera> oh no they are special
09:33:43 <desu> they are bigger
09:33:45 <desu> and thicker
09:33:48 <Ampera> lemme open up my terminal emulator and see if that renders, standby
09:34:43 <desu> （´・ω・｀）
09:34:49 <Ampera> renders under Alacritty Linux running WeeChat BSD under Screen+OpenSSH
09:34:58 <Ampera> my levitating man in a business suit doesn't, sadly
09:35:05 <desu> wtf is alacritty linux
09:35:05 <Ampera> it's a conspiracy I tell you
09:35:11 <Ampera> Alacritty/Linux
09:35:20 <Ampera> (Alacritty on Linux)
09:35:30 <desu> weird
09:35:32 <Ampera> Alacritty is my terminal emulator of choice, similar to kitty
09:35:35 <desu> gpu term emu
09:35:43 <Ampera> the actual distro is Arch
09:35:52 <desu> wounder if it'd run on obsd
09:36:38 <desu> oh no it's rust
09:36:41 <desu> im not installing all that
09:36:51 <Ampera> huh?
09:37:13 <Ampera> oh it is rust
09:37:16 <Ampera> didn't know that
09:37:34 <Ampera> It runs on FreeBSD without any strange dependencies, so I don't see why not
09:37:43 <desu> rust can do static builds i think
09:37:58 <desu> at least go can
09:38:02 <desu> pretty sure rust can too
09:38:50 <desu> https://doc.rust-lang.org/stable/edition-guide/rust-2018/platform-and-target-support/musl-support-for-fully-static-binaries.html
09:39:56 <Ampera> It does afaik, I didn't need to download any libs or runtimes for Alacritty
09:40:20 <Ampera> Idk I mostly like it because it's a modern terminal emu, and it was the first thing I saw on the Arch Wiki list for terminal emus
09:40:44 <desu> xterm for life
09:40:49 <desu> heh
09:41:14 <Ampera> I don't mind xterm, I could use it, and often do, as XFE launches it when I request a terminal
09:42:03 <desu> wounder if the gpu accel would spead up cat on a big file
09:42:31 <desu> because xterm is slower than the actual output
09:43:05 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
09:43:14 <Ampera> Its fast enough for me
09:48:14 <desu> yes
09:49:16 <Ampera> yes
09:56:33 <desu> yeah
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19:30:04 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: uBeam release a new promo video just as the SS uBeam is inevitably sinking. LOL! https://t.co/UbjfAfiPNq
20:21:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: He's not wrong. If Youtube makes these changes they will kill the platform. Sagan was considering his own channel for Scratch programming etc, but no point now as comments would be disabled. So now a 16yo or 17yo can't make a channel & interact. Sad. https://t.co/0yQsRjEdAz
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