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00:01:22 <Nothing\> yeah selling fentanyl analogs as heroin is fucking evil
00:01:45 <Nothing\> you know on our fire trucks here they painted "fentanyl kills" on all of them
00:02:30 <Nothing\> they also have nalaxone kits available over the counter here, which i think is a terrific idea
00:02:42 <Nothing\> i have no doubt they've already saved countless lives
00:03:11 <K> is that like antidote?
00:04:11 <Nothing\> yeah the way it works is it binds to opioid receptors more strongly than what you've overdosed on, but without activating the receptor, so it acts to block these receptors and i think displace molecules which have already bound to the receptors
00:04:41 <Nothing\> but the side effect of that is it sends an addict into instant withdrawal
00:05:50 <Nothing\> the technical term is mu opioid antagonist
00:06:11 <Nothing\> where the ones which bind to the receptor and activate them, like morphine and heroin, are mu opioid agonists
00:07:03 <Nothing\> mu being the specific subset of opioid receptors that's responsible for the effects of them, others being delta and kappa, though sigma receptors were once thought to be opioid receptors too, i don't think they are anymore
00:07:31 <Nothing\> neuro-pharmacology is so interesting
00:09:03 <Nothing\> so there's your pharm lecture for the day :P
00:12:14 <K> thank you
00:13:51 <Nothing\> always glad to share knowledge :D
00:14:34 <Nothing\> lol the chipmunks are getting pissy cuz i'm out of peanuts, they keep climbing up on my screen door trying to find a way inside
00:14:41 <Nothing\> chipmunks/squirrels
00:15:54 <Nothing\> i think i'll make a binary counter, because i can, or maybe try my hand at a frequency counter
00:17:29 <Nothing\> i've been trying to work out how to make one on my own, without consulting any resources, and i think if i have one "event" counter to count pulses, and a second "timer" counter where when the timer reaches the end of its count, it sends the data from the event counter to ROM and resets the event counter
00:23:00 <K> kinda makes sense
00:42:58 <desu> back
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08:32:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I want off this planet. Hey @elonmusk , any spare seats? I'll settle for a small corner of the next payload bay. https://t.co/WPIrBFAh0n
08:40:03 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Multimeters have devolved. An autoranging multimeter with a manual range dial. https://t.co/Liscla3b1p
08:42:03 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I want off this planet. Hey @elonmusk , any spare seats? I'll settle for a small corner of the next payload bay. https://t.co/WPIrBFAh0n
11:22:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Love these IBM engineering notebooks. From @contourcorsets https://t.co/YZTgl9N09c
11:26:41 <Halcyon> YAY! I got myself a slide projector
11:33:53 <Ampera> Halcyon!
11:33:57 <Ampera> How do fren?
11:34:12 <DHess_US> YAY! I got myself a phased plasma weapon!
11:34:36 <Ampera> YAY! I got myself crippling depression!
11:36:27 <Ampera> eevblog time
11:36:27 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 11:44 Sydney time.
11:56:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: What happened to the rest of Melissa? https://t.co/aYRH0dDS7o
12:06:08 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
12:06:11 <Halcyon> I'm good, how are you?
12:09:02 <Ampera> Halcyon Awful, thanks for asking
12:11:06 <Ampera> My face has been having some strange ass allergic reaction to /something/
12:11:17 <Ampera> it looks like spontaneous hives or some shit like that, there might be no specific cause
12:11:45 <Ampera> I've been taking some Benadryl and Aspirin, so it seems like it's starting to go down
13:16:08 <Ampera> So I asked on the forums for someone to suggest a USB sound card, something external, low latency, works with BSD
13:16:18 <Ampera> someone replied with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00QHURLHM
13:16:35 <Ampera> /That's/ a sound card.
13:59:07 <Halcyon> Oh no :(
13:59:29 <Halcyon> Yeh the Behringer ones work well
13:59:33 <Halcyon> I use a FocusRite box
13:59:57 <Halcyon> M-Audio are decent too
14:03:30 <Ampera> Halcyon still there?
14:03:57 <Ampera> Yeah I'm just looking around at options, don't have my heart set on anything just yet.
14:03:59 <Ampera> What do you use?
14:05:02 <Halcyon> I have one of these: https://focusrite.com/usb-audio-interface/scarlett/scarlett-2i2
14:07:19 <Ampera> Lol, someone replied to me saying to use those, but to not use M-Audio or Behringer.
14:07:31 <Halcyon> For what reason?
14:08:00 <Ampera> The issue is that my price range is 50-100 USD, and while I don't mind going a bit over, I can't go spending money on those FocusRite boxes.
14:08:12 <Ampera> Halcyon: "If you want something quality, avoid M-Audio and Behringer"
14:08:16 <Ampera> that reason
14:09:58 <Ampera> My MIDI controller is M-Audio actually
14:13:58 <Halcyon> None of the brands, including FocusRite are what I would call high end devices
14:14:04 <Halcyon> They are all Chinese made
14:14:09 <Halcyon> I wouldn't say they were crap... just cheap
14:14:34 <Halcyon> You pay big bucks for a proper audio interface, but for a home user, you're not likely to know any different
14:14:46 <Halcyon> I've had my one for about 7 or 8 years now. It does a decent job
14:15:09 <Ampera> lol and I was looking at Creative for my first go
14:15:34 <Halcyon> Have you tried ebay ?
14:15:44 <Ampera> I preffer to keep away from ebay if I can help it
14:16:03 <Halcyon> Suit yourself, but you might find some for quite cheap
14:16:06 <Ampera> It's a pain in the ass, especially for me, to shop there, and shipping is ususally slow and/or expensive
14:16:31 <Ampera> Yeah, but I'll also be buying from a third party, and have a much harder time ensuring I get a /working/ device instead of a neat looking device
14:17:14 <Ampera> I do have my eye on that Behringer device, it's not too far outside of my price range, and has some pretty neat stuff
14:17:18 <Halcyon> Well aside from second hand, for your budget, you're limited to the cheaper options
14:17:26 <Halcyon> Behringer are OK, there is nothing wrong with them
14:17:34 <Ampera> Halcyon, my requirement is it sounds as good as a 70 dollar Z97 Motherboard.
14:17:43 <Halcyon> Easy done
14:17:46 <Ampera> I'm not looking for high end gear, even the low end of the high end
14:18:06 <Ampera> I bought a 10-20 dollar thing from China and it was abhorrent, so I'm thinking of spending a bit more money this time
14:18:20 <Halcyon> *nod*
14:18:36 <Halcyon> $20 devices from China are below bottom of the barrel, they are just utter garbage
14:19:26 <Ampera> but that's what I'm, at, my benchmark for great isn't as high as most people's. It needs to sound good.
14:19:49 <Ampera> Cheap CD player audio quality would be fine
14:21:57 <Halcyon> You'll get that out of any of the brand name devices, no problems.
14:24:33 <Ampera> Oh man, my face is on the verge of me going to the ER
14:24:52 <Halcyon> Have you tried Hydrocortisone cream?
14:25:03 <Ampera> No I do not have any.
14:25:18 <Halcyon> Probably need to get some, along with an antihistamine
14:25:51 <Ampera> A. What is it supposed to do, B. I am already taking an antihistamine and an NSAID
14:26:33 <Ampera> I am currently to around 24x8 mg Diphenhydramine in the last 24 hours.
14:26:44 <Halcyon> Hyrdrocortisone is excellent for skin irritation and allergic reactions. It's basically cortisol
14:27:55 <Ampera> The issue is I do not know what it is a reaction to.
14:28:20 <Halcyon> Worry about that later, if it's getting worse, you need to treat the symptom
14:28:43 <Ampera> I am with the tools I have, there is minimal effect, and it's getting worse.
14:29:13 <Ampera> Antihistamine has a small effect, and Aspirin helps considerably with the inflammation, but it's not subsiding.
14:29:40 <Ampera> Only practical evidence I have to a cause is that it seems to be worstening when I am in this specific room for lengthy periods.
14:30:09 <Halcyon> Could be as simple as a dust allergy or dust mites
14:30:10 <Ampera> The only potentially known allergen I have is dust and/or dust mites, but that causes sinal issues, not rash
14:31:04 <Ampera> My breathing is still strong, but there's also bumps on the top of my hands too.
14:31:14 <Halcyon> Well if you're already allergic to those, a rash isn't out of the ordinary
14:32:10 <Ampera> The issue is I have never had this sort of reaction, and all of my previous symptoms of dust alergen are not present, even though they have been confirmed to exist around two weeks ago.
14:38:05 <Halcyon> The body does weird things
14:39:21 <Ampera> Only slightly concerning thing is that it's starting to puff up around my eyes. Not critically, but I can definitely feel it.
14:39:35 <Ampera> It's ever so midly itchy.
14:40:01 <Halcyon> More than likely you've touched your face or rubbed your eyes?
14:40:20 <Ampera> Actually, it almost feels as if there's fluid seeping from it
14:40:38 <Ampera> No, it's primarily on my chin, but /very/ slightly.
14:40:44 <Halcyon> I'd be trying Hydrocortisone cream if you can get it 0.5% or stronger
14:40:51 <Halcyon> You shouldn't need a prescription
14:40:55 <Ampera> 00:49
14:41:33 <Ampera> lol I might look into it, but only if it doesn't get even worse. If it does, I am going to either a walk in clinic or ER
14:42:25 <Halcyon> You don't have a 24 hour chemist near you?
14:44:06 <Ampera> we don't have chemists in the US
14:44:08 <Ampera> we have pharmacies
14:44:10 <Ampera> ya cunt
14:44:13 <Halcyon> Same shit
14:44:29 <Ampera> I /do/, but I'm not walking to one at 1AM
14:44:50 <Ampera> not with a disfigured face anyways
14:45:35 <Halcyon> Send someone to get it for you later :)
14:46:01 <Ampera> I think I'll go without the cream for now, and see if I can get it to go down on its own
14:46:25 <Halcyon> Try that, but if it persists, then the antihistamine isn't working
14:47:00 <Ampera> Which is why I would go to the ER instead of a cream, because in my mind, if it's that bad of a reaction, then it's something indicitave of a larger problem
14:47:15 <Halcyon> Not necessarily
14:47:24 <Halcyon> It's clearly a reaction to something
14:47:39 <Halcyon> You either have to avoid that thing and/or treat the symptoms
14:47:52 <Ampera> I'm aware that allergies can develop at any time, but I have /never/ had an allergic reaction like this.
14:48:02 <Halcyon> There's always a first time
14:48:02 <Ampera> Nowhere near the severity, and to my knowledge I don't even have allergies.
14:48:20 <Ampera> The closest thing I have is dust, which is very subtle, and can irritate anyone
14:49:14 <Halcyon> Are you around animals? It could be that too
14:49:35 <Halcyon> Not just fur/dander but their saliva can set people off
14:49:38 <Ampera> Cats, but I have no history of anything close to a cat allergen, and I've been in constant contact with cats for 8 years.
14:49:56 <Halcyon> No history doesn't mean you aren't allergic
14:50:03 <Ampera> I never said it did
14:50:05 <Halcyon> Your body may have just been dealing with it until now
14:50:13 <Ampera> in fact I've expressly said it didn't
14:50:15 <Halcyon> Cats are a common one, which is why they are stupid
14:50:21 <Ampera> dog allergens exist too
14:50:23 <Ampera> also fuck you
14:50:27 <Halcyon> Yes of course they do
14:50:37 <Halcyon> But it's just another things cats are shit at
14:50:38 <Halcyon> :P
14:50:40 <Halcyon> *thing
14:52:19 <Ampera> Cat dander might actually not be out of the question, the cats I'm with sleep on this bed all the time.
14:52:45 <Halcyon> Stupid cats
14:52:54 <Halcyon> Try changing the sheets, see if it helps overnight
14:53:20 <Halcyon> It might explain the puffiness around the face, if it's all over the pillow too
14:53:54 <Ampera> I'm not using a pillow, I'm using a blanket that has 0 contact with cats
14:54:15 <Halcyon> Then you've touched your face?
14:54:37 <Ampera> I honestly don't think it's cats, Halcyon.
14:54:51 <Halcyon> *shrug* I'm just making suggestions
14:54:57 <Halcyon> Dust, Animals and Food
14:55:07 <Ampera> To which I have no negative contact to any of
14:55:33 <Halcyon> To be honest, if you can't find the source, you'll probably need to go through an allergy test
14:55:41 <Halcyon> At least you'll know for sure then
14:56:14 <Ampera> fuck that shit
14:56:38 <Ampera> I'd sooner keep it like this than take one of those.
14:56:47 <Halcyon> Why? It's just little skin pricks
14:56:51 <Halcyon> Not a big deal
14:57:00 <Ampera> tons of them
14:57:02 <Ampera> also expensive
14:57:12 <Halcyon> Tons? Like 6-10 ?
14:57:17 <Ampera> more than that
14:57:22 <Ampera> at least as I've heard it
14:57:25 <Halcyon> Depends how comprehensive you want it
14:57:30 <Halcyon> I've had one done
14:57:36 <Halcyon> It's not a big deal
14:57:56 <Ampera> The question also is why don't I have it on my arms
14:58:01 <Halcyon> No idea?
14:58:13 <Ampera> The rest of my body I can get, because I wear clothes all the time, so if it was external it wouldn't effect it
14:58:28 <Halcyon> Usually around the mucous membranes and softer skin is the first to react
14:58:32 <Ampera> but my arms have no signs of a reaction
14:58:33 <Halcyon> Around eyes, nose, mouth
14:58:40 <Ampera> Tops of my hands though
14:58:48 <Halcyon> Yep those can do so too
14:58:55 <Ampera> My feet are also unaffected, which are in direct contact with this bed
14:59:23 <Halcyon> I had a very similar reaction to you on my hands and face from being in contact with flux cleaner
14:59:25 <Ampera> One thing is for certain, this rash is definitely leaking fluids.
14:59:26 <Halcyon> It was fucked
14:59:36 <Halcyon> Are you scratching it?
14:59:42 <Ampera> No, simply touching it
14:59:56 <Halcyon> Yes well stop touching it, you're just irritating it more
15:00:11 <Ampera> I'll touch you :P
15:00:14 <Halcyon> Fluid is normal, it's your body creating a barrier between you and whatever it is it doesn't agree with
15:00:36 <Ampera> I think my body is just trying to convince me to kill myself at this point :P
15:00:59 <Halcyon> Honestly, try the cream, you would be surprised how well it works. It will also help a lot with the itching
15:01:04 <Halcyon> Get some tomorrow
15:01:35 <Halcyon> It's also cheap
15:01:52 <Halcyon> Then once you get it under control, you can do your own experiments to find out what it could e
15:01:53 <Halcyon> be
15:01:57 <Halcyon> Rub your face in a cat or something
16:00:55 <Halcyon> steve30, you around?
17:25:32 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VH4c0-p-CY
18:00:06 <steve30> hi
18:01:44 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
18:01:53 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
18:01:58 <Halcyon> How much do you know about old film cameras?
18:02:31 <steve30> a reasonable amount
18:11:43 <steve30> Here's a reader letter from the other week: https://www.thestar.co.uk/news/opinion/dangers-to-health-of-5g-technology-52961
18:21:51 <Halcyon> I have an Olympus XA
18:22:02 <Halcyon> Know nothing about them, are they worth anything?
18:23:15 <DHess_US> Basically, no since film and developement services are basically unavailable.
18:23:28 * steve30 googles
18:25:13 <steve30> old compact cameras tend to vary in desirability depending on how good they are
18:25:26 <steve30> But there seem to be a few of those sold on ebay at reasonable prices
18:26:31 <DHess_US> Only for nostalgia.
18:29:38 <steve30> looks like a nice little machine
18:37:15 <steve30> I've occaisionally pondered getting an old compact camera to complement my SLRs. Haven't bothered though.
18:37:46 <steve30> anyway, i need to go out for some shopping.
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19:50:07 <form> oh dear
20:31:32 <K> hello
21:35:07 <K #EEVblog> yes.
21:37:16 <steve30> afternoon
21:41:58 <K> yes.
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