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48:52 <Ampera> Halcyon, my eyes have started to swell, the reaction is progressing rapidly, I am going to the ER soon.
49:07 <Ampera> No clue for how long, will not have IRC access, I might have Signal.
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15:48 <Nothing\> well this is by far the most confusing hardware glitch i've ever come across
16:21 <Nothing\> when my 3ds is in sleep mode, if i put it on top of my ds lite, it'll take it out of sleep mode, regardless of whether my ds lite is even on or not
16:35 <Nothing\> but only if i put the 3ds on the ds lite, if i put the ds lite on the 3ds, it doesn't do it
16:55 <Nothing\> and more so, if i have the 3ds running as normal and put it on the ds lite, it'll put it into sleep mode
17:28 <Nothing\> near as i can tell i think it has something to do with the magnets in the speakers, maybe they use magnets to detect when the clamshell is closed or something
20:54 <Nothing\> without dismantling my 3ds to figure out how the sleep mode mechanism works, i don't think i can figure any more of this out, google doesn't seem to be very helpful in providing answers as to how it enters sleep mode but i'm gonna assume it's magnets
21:02 <Nothing\> always with the magnets
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49:55 <Nothing\> huh, so now we have to worry about exploding e-cigarettes apparently
49:57 <Nothing\> https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/e-cigarette-explodes-in-teen-s-mouth-shattering-jaw-and-teeth-1.4474675
50:34 <steve30> lol
50:34 <Nothing\> lol and cell phone use causing young adults to "grow horns on their skulls"
50:45 <Nothing\> https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/cellphone-use-may-be-causing-young-adults-to-grow-horns-on-skulls-1.4474876
51:45 <Nothing\> i've gotta admit though, the thought that it could explode has crossed my mind more than once when vaping while it's charging
52:20 <desu> hasn't that been a thing for a while?
52:21 <desu> oh yeah
52:21 <desu> i saw this
52:21 <desu> funny
52:23 <Nothing\> i just can't see a battery exploding with that much force even when they're intentionally mishandled, ie big clive
54:13 <Nothing\> ugh fucking panic attack
54:45 <Nothing\> somebody coming to the door, asking for me by my first name, which only happens in formal situations, but it was the mail man
10:26 <desu> :/
11:11 <desu> https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/jun/21/praise-short-men-king-toxic-masculinity-jaboukie-jonas-brothers
11:19 <desu> maybe sjw's arent that bad after all
16:15 <Nothing\> desu: Yeah even though the offending stimulus was removed, propranolol helped abort that anxiety attack pretty well, fyi
16:24 <Nothing\> it's definitely worth looking into beta blockers as an alternative to benzos
16:38 <Nothing\> jonas bros are still a thing?
17:13 <Nothing\> toxic masculinity?
17:27 <Nothing\> just from the title, this reads like something from a feminist grad student
17:47 <Nothing\> from the annals of herstory
18:07 <Nothing\> oppress the testocracy!
19:21 <desu> heh
19:22 <desu> i am jk
19:26 <desu> but as a short man
19:31 <desu> it's funny
20:06 <desu> i can't really say anyone has ever discriminated me for my height
20:11 <desu> although i've had jokes made about it
20:18 <desu> but that's nothing everyone has jokes made about them
21:14 <Nothing\> yeah i'm only 5'7" and i don't think anybody's ever so much as mentioned my height, much less discriminated against me for it
21:27 <desu> i am 5'2
21:31 <desu> almost dwarf lol
21:37 <Nothing\> i can see maybe if you're trying to be an actor or a politician, height seems to help with public positions like that
21:56 <Nothing\> lol not quite, i think 4'10" is the legal requirement for dwarfism
22:07 <desu> yeah i dont have any deformities
22:09 <Nothing\> i only know that cuz i know danny devito's almost that height, i think 4'1"
22:11 <desu> i just have short parents
22:18 <desu> wait is he a dwarf?
22:21 <desu> i thought he was normal
22:25 <Nothing\> not medically
22:25 <desu> just short
22:27 <Nothing\> yeah
22:58 <Nothing\> now that i think of it i should watch one flew over the cuckoo's nest
23:34 <desu> good movie
23:44 <Nothing\> this little scale i got is pretty neat, it's accurate to 1mg and seems pretty on the money, was only like $5 with shipping
23:58 <desu> i didn't know danny devito was in it though
24:03 <desu> he does not look the same as he does now
24:07 <Nothing\> oh yeah, i think it was his first movie actually
24:13 <Nothing\> christopher lloyd was in it too
24:19 <Nothing\> i didn't recognize him the first time i saw it
25:13 <Nothing\> i don't watch movies anymore though, between the heavy emotions (life's emotional enough without movies) and my lack of attention span it's difficult for me to enjoy movies anymore
25:41 <Nothing\> and the rare times when i do watch them, it's always something i've seen before so i know i'll enjoy it
25:57 <Nothing\> although i think i might watch that new child's play movie when it comes out, that seems like it might actually be good
26:21 <Nothing\> then again, i can see them making chucky like an internet of things toy gone awry
27:23 <desu> haha
27:46 <desu> yeah im the same
27:54 <desu> there's a few movies ive seen 5+ times each
28:19 <Nothing\> tell me about it, even when i do watch a movie, it takes me the better part of a day to do so
29:05 <Nothing\> i watched a 25 minute episode of twilight zone with my mom yesterday, that classic one with burgess meredith where he gets hounded constantly cuz he likes to read, then an atomic bomb wipes everybody out while he's down in a bank vault and he finds he has all the time in the world to read, then breaks his glasses
29:12 <Nothing\> it took the better part of 2 hours to watch
29:23 <desu> never seen the twilight zone although i should watch it
29:27 <desu> i really liked xfiles
29:33 <desu> and the twilight zone seems similar
29:35 <Nothing\> it's a terrific show, very much ahead of its time
29:49 <Nothing\> it's not so much like the x-files, more like the outer limits i guess, if you remember that
29:52 <Nothing\> or tales from the crypt
30:02 <Nothing\> standalone stories usually with a great twist ending
30:11 <desu> well i mean in terms of mystery or whatever
30:14 <Nothing\> not necessarily scary, but they'll make you think
30:16 <desu> i know the plot probably is nowhere near
30:33 <desu> yeah
30:38 <Nothing\> personally i like the twilight zone better than the x-files, but i could never get into the x-files
30:39 <desu> xfiles is just scary enough for me
30:48 <desu> full on horror movies are not that good
30:57 <Nothing\> lol my brother scared the crap out of me as a kid cuz he told me the x-files was based on a true story
31:07 <desu> some of the episodes are
31:19 <desu> well "true"
31:27 <desu> but uh things that supposudly happend
31:47 <Nothing\> the weird thing is, i remember this happening in a house i moved out of in 1992 but the series didn't start until 1993
32:09 <desu> mandela effect
32:15 <desu> i always thought it started in 1992
32:27 <desu> wow
32:29 <desu> that is trippy
32:39 <desu> i remember checking this a while ago and i could have sworn it said 1992
32:50 <Nothing\> i remember it specifically cuz there was a guy with a hook hand who used to hang out on the swings behind our house, very creepy and that was part of what made the show scarier i thought he was gonna get me
32:57 <Nothing\> desu: yeah i always thought it was 1992 too
33:04 <Nothing\> that's the really weird thing
33:14 <Nothing\> i could swear up and down it started in 92
33:37 <Nothing\> september 1993
33:43 <Nothing\> wow, it ran until 2002
34:12 <Nothing\> i sorta got into the x-files a few years ago, i watched a season or two of it, but then i lost my place and got sick of re-watching the same stuff i've seen trying to find where i left off
34:46 <Nothing\> i was surprised at how young david duchovny looked compared to californication
34:56 <Nothing\> i didn't realize how much he's visibly aged
35:01 <desu> should watch the lone gunmen
35:10 <Nothing\> that an episode?
35:11 <desu> never seen it but it seems cool
35:13 <Nothing\> or something else?
35:15 <desu> no its a spinoff
35:19 <desu> from the xfiles
35:23 <Nothing\> oh huh i never heard of that
35:28 <desu> about mulders conspiracy theorist friends
35:34 <Nothing\> oooh right
35:38 <Nothing\> i remember the name now
35:59 <Nothing\> i mean i've never heard of the show, but i remember them from the x-files
37:19 <desu> it seems alright i think i may have been a episode or so of it
37:54 <Nothing\> when was it made? i've been reclusive for the past 10 years or so, so i never hear about new shows or movies or like that anyways
38:26 <Nothing\> i'll check the news maybe once every few months and that's about it, no cable tv and no friends so i never hear about anything by word of mouth or adverts
38:52 <Nothing\> as far as i'm concerned though, movies and tv made this decade are invariably crap
38:53 <desu> 2002 or something i think
39:03 <Nothing\> oh wow, quite a while ago
39:10 <Nothing\> did it just run for one season or something?
39:21 <desu> not sure for how long it ran
39:46 <desu> yeah
39:49 <desu> the news are bad
39:53 <desu> heh
40:02 <Nothing\> couldn't have been long, i wasn't reclusive yet at that point
41:57 <desu> oh
42:19 <Nothing\> hrm i found this hp all in one computer on the curb the other day, my initial instinct is to take it apart, especially since the back was already off, but i should at least see if it works first i suppose
42:41 <Nothing\> funny that tearing it down is my first instinct, THEN seeing if it works, stupid dave brain washed me
43:22 <Nothing\> frankly i don't even think i'd want a computer like this if it worked, it's just basically a monitor, nothing else to it
43:39 <rust_collector> i will take it
43:44 <Nothing\> i actually thought it was a monitor, but wondered why they put a dvd drive in the side of it
43:48 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector i bet you would
44:05 <rust_collector> perfect to save space on my little desk
44:15 <Nothing\> why not use a pi?
44:27 <rust_collector> I have banned pi
44:30 <Nothing\> i use one for my primary (really my only) computer and it does the job pretty well
44:32 <Nothing\> how come?
44:43 <rust_collector> so I would have to use one of the pi-like things
45:08 <Nothing\> you banned pi so you can use alternatives?
45:27 <rust_collector> it is just a thing. I think it is because they were talking about how awesome and cheap it was, for a year or 2 before you could even get one
45:53 <Nothing\> i've actually been wondering about getting an alternative, something with hardware video, preferably, my only qualm is wondering how easy it would actually be to obtain and set up an OS for it
46:05 <Nothing\> especially if it uses windows
46:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector: ah, see i was saved from all of the hype because of my reclusive nature, although i'll be honest from the hype i DID see, i didn't like them initially
46:49 <Nothing\> so i can definitely understand that PoV
47:07 <Nothing\> but since i lost my primary computer, replacing it essentially for $40 was a pretty good deal
47:14 <rust_collector> yeah
47:31 <Nothing\> been doing that a lot since i found ali express, lol my oscilloscope cost me $15
47:54 <rust_collector> I think my old junk scope was around 50
48:02 <Nothing\> man i'd love to have a real scope
48:03 <DHess_US> My cheapest DSO was $60.
48:11 <Nothing\> this is just one of those jyetech things
48:35 <Nothing\> comes as a kit, but i got mine assembled
48:55 <rust_collector> I had a jyetech 138, and it was nice to have, for things like testing abs sensors and such
49:16 <Nothing\> i dunno if it's my solder's too old and the rosin's gone off or my soldering iron doesn't get hot enough or what, but i can't get solder to stick to anything but the tip of the soldering iron, so i'm not even going to attempt to solder a kit together
49:23 <Nothing\> rust_collector: yes that's the exact one i have
49:37 <Nothing\> but yeah, it's great for the cost and for what it is
49:49 <rust_collector> but the switches failed on it, jyetech was nice, and just shipped a set of switches, but I messed it up while relpacing them
49:58 <DHess_US> My cheapest DSO is the top or bottom one in this picture. The other top or bottom one was $80 so my second cheapest. https://i.ibb.co/ZJ2jZsS/4.jpg
50:14 <Nothing\> my biggest qualm is it doesn't seem to trigger on events shorter than 10us, even though the time base goes down to 10us per division
50:35 <Nothing\> DHess_US: man i'd love something like that
50:41 <rust_collector> me too
50:44 <Nothing\> tbh i'd love any real scope
51:11 <Nothing\> wish i could find a cheap analog scope
51:18 <DHess_US> But I had to fix it myself, https://i.ibb.co/fv5sHNb/1b-720b.jpg
51:25 <rust_collector> mine is pretty much a piece of junk, but it does work, and it looks awesome
52:18 <Nothing\> i've seen videos on turning a CRT into an oscilloscope, i've got about 5 old CRT monitors, might be a project for some time down the road when i feel confident working with HV stuff
52:53 <Nothing\> i'm not even comfortable with mains voltage, but i think i'd probably do more with mains if i had a tidy work space, as it is i can't even use battery powered stuff without accidentally shorting something
53:22 <rust_collector> you will learn that faster if you have more power shorted out
53:23 <DHess_US> Before I fixed it, it was doing this, https://i.ibb.co/VBVHKKV/1ms-720b.jpg
53:40 <Nothing\> i was making a 555 circuit once a couple of years ago when i first got into electronics and i started seeing smoke rising up from my work space, so naturally i assumed i'd fried something on the 555 and it was letting out the magic smoke
54:04 <Nothing\> so i spent a couple of minutes looking at it, scrutinizing it, couldn't find anything out of the ordinary
54:57 <Nothing\> then i realized when i put a 9v down on the table, the wires on the pigtail connector i had on it had settled in just the wrong way to short the battery and the insulation was burning
55:32 <DHess_US> Nothing\, that stack is my Voltron 22303230 DSO. It is what I get when my Tektronix 2230, 2232, and 2230 combine to form one 6 channel triple dual delayed timebase DSO.
55:39 <Nothing\> it's not the only time that's happened either, but now i'm really vigilant about it, or about stray live wires touching something bare
56:00 <Nothing\> DHess_US: i've been saving up for a scope but i have no clue what i'd get
56:07 <Nothing\> price range i'm thinking around $500
56:18 <Nothing\> at least by saving up, i give myself time to research them
56:36 <DHess_US> Tektronix 2230 or 2232 can be had for $100 to $300 and are the oldest DSOs I would recommend but only to someone prepared to fix one.
56:40 <Nothing\> tektronix is the first name that cames to mind, though or rigol
57:06 <Nothing\> yeah see, i would probably end up getting a new dso
57:14 <DHess_US> Yup
57:20 <DHess_US> Hmm, ewather turning nasty.
57:30 <Nothing\> something with a function generator, actually i'd LOVE something with FFT too
57:39 <Nothing\> i've been really interested in frequency analysis of sounds lately
57:41 <desu> FFT is cool
57:45 <desu> i tried it with octave the other day
58:13 <Nothing\> there are a bunch of apps you can get for your phone that'll do FFT from the mic, so i've been playing with that
58:26 <Nothing\> it's amazing the scientific tools you can use your phone as if you have the right apps
58:37 <Nothing\> i can even use it as a magnetometer
58:50 <Nothing\> which is awesome considering real magnetometers start at a few hundred bucks at least
59:45 <Nothing\> i just got this app called physics toolbox or something, all it does is graph out or display in digital format the data from whatever sensors your phone has in it
00:26 <Nothing\> they're not the most accurate, but it's very versatile, and the price is right, compared to the alternative
00:55 <Nothing\> actually the barometer is really accurate, enough that i'm able to use it to determine altitude
01:14 <Nothing\> it's sensitive enough to pick up the pressure difference when you raise the phone up a few cm
01:41 <Nothing\> DHess_US: i love storms, you're lucky
02:35 <Nothing\> i'm in southern ontario, so all of the storms here come from the midwest but they tend to dissipate over the cooler air of the great lakes, but in the winter we get lake effect snow that ends up dumping like 12in in a day
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10:40 <Nothing\> lol the little cup they provide with this scale i got doesn't even fit under the cover on the scale to shield from wind disturbance
11:01 <Nothing\> nor does the calibration weight
11:37 <SDMF74> Can I get an ETA on the EEVBLOG 235 DMM for Amazon please? Also can you provide a promo code for my trouble. Also what version/firmware will be shipping? Thanks!
12:19 Quit: SDMF74 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
12:31 <Nothing\> well he sure waited an eternity for an answer
12:57 <rust_collector> I think it will arrive on a wednesday, a bit after noon
13:09 <Nothing\> that's my favorite time of the week
13:20 <rust_collector> ok
13:21 <Nothing\> seriously
13:47 <Nothing\> i think he just wanted to know about how long it takes to ship, but i don't think anybody could answer that really
14:25 <Nothing\> stuff from china takes anywhere from a week or so to over 3 months to ship to me
14:27 <rust_collector> printing a shipping label shoule be done in a minute or so
15:09 <Nothing\> i figured he wanted to know how long it would take to arrive by post, rather than how long it would take them to send out an order, i dunno
15:43 <rust_collector> yeah, he might as well guess
16:24 <rust_collector> china packages have been pretty quick lately. they used to take 5-6 weeks, now I get things in 1-2
16:49 <Nothing\> i had like 10-15 things i ordered around the chinese new year that just disappeared, i'm very disappointed about it
17:26 <Nothing\> success rate depends on the type of shipping though, i usually use the method that's inherently free, but there's the $5 epacket or whatever method with shipping that seems to have better success
17:31 <Nothing\> er with tracking
18:13 <Nothing\> although they say there's tracking but i've never been able to get anything up with the tracking numbers they provide besides general information you get with free packets anyways, like that the item arrived at the china airport, that it left the country, stuff like that
19:37 <rust_collector> well, tracking is a bit messy
19:39 <Nothing\> right on, i got some lm334 adjustable current sources, been wanting a current source other than those constant current diodes you can make from a FET
19:56 <Nothing\> rust_collector: oh man i didn't even consider the logistics of tracking stuff from china until just now
20:00 <Nothing\> but yeah that must be a nightmare
20:21 <Nothing\> wendover did a great video on how overnight shipping works
20:38 <rust_collector> I tend to get the package around 2-3 days before the tracking says it will be there, that is shipping from the us of a to here, fedex, usually
21:04 <rust_collector> nah, when the system is up and working, tracking is not difficult
21:09 <Nothing\> oooh fed ex, well la dee da mr fancy pants rich guy
21:13 <Nothing\> :P
21:28 <rust_collector> well, it was the cheapest option, lol
21:50 <Nothing\> my packages usually cost like $1 or $2 so it's not even worth getting epacket on them
21:54 <rust_collector> Swimming over there to pick up would take too much time for me
24:56 <rust_collector> Hmm, I am trying to figure out how to compare 2 different transistors, if I can use one in place of the other. I am pretty sure I can, but now I am more interested in figuring out what and how to compare them.
25:50 <rust_collector> like, the million circuits online, for diy power supplies, that use the 2n3055, but what if I had a tip35?
26:24 <T3sl4> it would be better
28:08 <rust_collector> yeah, I would think so, but...
29:15 <Nothing\> rust_collector: i always figured transistors were mostly interchangeable
29:31 <Nothing\> most transistors anyways
29:31 <rust_collector> I am very noob, so I still wonder how I would compare them. I guess, what is important, what is not, and what makes one better or worse in some conditions... Oh well, I have 2 weeks off, so I can read a lot
29:54 <Nothing\> rust_collector: the technical term is characterize, so if you look up guides on characterizing transistors it might be helpful
30:48 <Nothing\> i've run into the same dilema myself, i needed to characterize some jfets to find 2 complimentary FETs that were closely matched for cutoff voltage
32:00 <Nothing\> i never did figure it out, once i realized i needed a negative supply for the n channel fet i sorta gave up, or got distracted, can't remember which
32:18 <rust_collector> both?
32:39 <T3sl4> more to the point, circuits using 3055s are probably not very good, in terms of current limit, compensation, speed...
32:40 <Nothing\> most likely, lol
33:27 <Nothing\> but yeah rust_collector i'm not exactly sure what you characterize on a transistor, personally i'd start with gain, although circuits based on gain are apparently badly designed, so it doesn't seem like gain is that important
33:38 <Nothing\> then i'd look at cut off/turn on current/voltage
34:06 <Nothing\> of course i'm probably just as newb as you, if not more so
34:11 <coppice_> circuits using 3055s are typically excellent space heaters
34:16 <Nothing\> i'm just explaining my newb approach to it
34:24 <Nothing\> i think i have some 3055s actually
34:29 <Nothing\> big, beefy things
34:35 <rust_collector> 3/4 of the year, a space heater is great here
35:52 <Nothing\> speaking of space heaters, i took what i thought was a temperature measuring diode out of my space heater that crapped out the other day, it looks like a diode, but it just looked like an open circuit to my meter, didn't show any forward voltage on diode testing mode
35:58 <Nothing\> unless...
36:47 <Nothing\> hrm, yeah nothing
37:14 <Nothing\> it's just one of those glass encapsulated ones with the orange thing inside and a tiny gap between the two orange bits
37:26 <Nothing\> i figured it was a diode they used to check the temperature
21:59 <DHess_US> <Nothing\> DHess_US: i love storms, you're lucky
22:05 <DHess_US> Next time I wear my duster.
28:41 <Nothing\> i want a duster
29:10 <desu> trenchcoat
29:33 <rust_collector> duster, demon, I like most a body things
29:55 <Nothing\> desu: i was gonna say a trench coat would probably be better, i like clothes with lots of pockets
30:02 <desu> me too
30:05 <desu> i wear cargopants
30:06 <Nothing\> lol who remembers the trenchcoat mafia?
30:07 <desu> always
30:26 <desu> yes
30:31 <Nothing\> i just wear khaki pants, i only have one pair somehow, but my shorts are all cargo shorts
31:00 <rust_collector> I get pants at work, which makes them cheap
31:10 <desu> you work at a pants factory?
31:10 <Nothing\> nice
31:27 <Nothing\> lol pants factory, that just sounds funny for some reason
31:38 <desu> what else would you call it
31:39 <desu> dunno
31:45 <Nothing\> a textile mill
31:51 <desu> oh yes
31:57 <Nothing\> i only just thought of that now though
32:01 <DHess_US> Dusters are for incliment weather. They are essecially western trenchcoats but with a different set of features.
32:28 <Nothing\> i just figured a duster was like a leather trench coat with fewer pockets
33:01 <Nothing\> i should learn how to sew so i can put more pockets on my clothes
33:06 <Nothing\> big ones, too
33:10 <DHess_US> No, oilskin with leather trimming.
33:22 <Nothing\> ah
34:05 <Nothing\> actually how did leather ever work for wet weather back in the day anyways? if we have to treat leather nowadays or it falls to crap if it gets wet, how on earth did anybody ever use it in wet weather before chemical guards were made
34:21 <Nothing\> unless they treated it with oil or something, but i think it'd be annoying having your clothes be oily
34:24 <desu> they put animal fat on it
34:30 <desu> or something
34:44 <Nothing\> yeah i would think fat or oil would go rancid and stink
34:54 <desu> maybe dosn't seem too bad
35:07 <desu> i have leather boots
35:12 <DHess_US> Mine is a 30 year old version of the middle one here: https://www.drizabone.com.au/oilskin
35:14 <desu> i put oil on them once and they do not smell
35:26 <DHess_US> Larger collar, leather cuffs, longer coat
35:29 <Nothing\> i never liked leather, except maybe for a nice looking jacket, but it never seemed very good for cold weather
35:32 <desu> oil? grease
35:36 <desu> not sure what type
35:40 <Nothing\> and i'd rather have a coat that's functional than one that looks nice
36:04 <desu> i wounder if just using vaseline would work
36:21 <Nothing\> is oilskin basically just skin coated in oil or something?
36:32 <DHess_US> Oiled canvas
36:44 <desu> it does
37:20 <Nothing\> desu: it probably would, maybe on a fabric with a large pitched weave, it would probably be hard to get it to penetrate a really fine weave so that all of the fabric comes into contact with it, a lot harder than if you used a liquid oil
38:22 <DHess_US> I'm not sure what oil they use. It isn't silicon. It might be neatsfoot oil.
38:58 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neatsfoot_oil
39:22 <DHess_US> Neatsfoot oil is morely for leather but I bet it is what they used originally for oilskin.
39:39 <DHess_US> You can get it as an oil or grease.
40:07 <DHess_US> Either works well on leather shoes. Coat your shoes and then heat them in the oven on warm for a couple hours.
40:57 <DHess_US> I suspect that is what they used on my duster. It's what I use on the leather part.
41:17 <DHess_US> I haven't needed to retreat the cloth. To clean it, you just hang it up and hose it down.
41:19 <Ampera> Back from the ER
41:40 <Nothing\> DHess_US: those coats are pretty nice looking, but i'm not a fan of the way the shoulders stick out like that
41:44 <DHess_US> Last time I had to go the ER, I ended up in the hospital at Chrismas for surgery.
41:52 <Nothing\> oh fun
41:59 <Nothing\> Ampera: you okay man?
42:07 <Nothing\> i was just in the ER on the weekend, myself
42:11 <DHess_US> Nothing\, the dusters come with a removeable cowl. That part comes off.
42:11 <Nothing\> fun times :D
42:12 <Ampera> Nothing\, yeah I had a really strange allergic reaction on my face
42:20 <Nothing\> oh jeez, you know what caused it?
42:31 <Ampera> nope
42:36 <Ampera> no good clue
42:43 <Nothing\> it's weird, i've been tested and don't have any allergies myself, but i had a really bad reaction to something a couple of years ago
42:51 <Ampera> they gave mne some epinephrine, IV benadryl, and a couple of other things
42:57 <Nothing\> my entire body got so horribly itchy, i've never been so itchy in my life
43:03 <Nothing\> i scratched myself raw in so many places
43:06 <DHess_US> Yea, that's standard for a severe allergic reaction.
43:09 <Ampera> I don't have any known serious allergies, it just happened.
43:09 <desu> cortisol tablets
43:19 <DHess_US> epinephrine is what is in allergy pens.
43:20 <Nothing\> luckily i had some benedryl on hand so i took a couple of those and showered until it stopped
43:40 <DHess_US> Also known as adreniline.
43:50 <Nothing\> i still dunno what caused it to this day, but every so often my hands get really itchy for some reason
43:52 <Ampera> It wasn't a rapid onset, I had it for over 24 hours, but it started to swell up my eyes
44:06 <desu> i have a epi pen but i've only ever been administerd cortisol tablets at the hospital
44:12 <Nothing\> Ampera: maybe keep an eye out to make sure it doesn't come back when the drugs they gave yo uwear off
44:26 <Nothing\> desu: i heard those expire in pretty short order
44:29 <Nothing\> something like 6 months
44:33 <Ampera> Yeah I'm looking at it, but they gave me a good hour to see if it would
44:37 <desu> a year i think
44:40 <Ampera> Two years.
44:47 <Nothing\> that's awful
44:47 <T3sl4> or noradrenaline
44:48 <Ampera> There's also a shortage here, and they are impossible to find.
44:52 <T3sl4> but they're very similar
44:57 <Ampera> Idk if it's the same in New York.
45:18 <desu> never used one doctors just want me to have one around
45:20 <Nothing\> my ex had a bee allergy so she had to have an epi pen but she never carried one with her cuz it cost $75 and she needed to replace it every 6 months or a year or something
45:23 <Ampera> Now it's mostly just dry crackly skin, so I think it's gone.
45:32 <Nothing\> that's good, Ampera
45:42 <Nothing\> did you get anything with your mouth/throat happening?
45:46 <Nothing\> tingling or swelling
45:49 <DHess_US> The epi pen is what they use if the subject in in duress.
45:58 <Ampera> Nothing\, not until I was administered the epinephrine
46:10 <Nothing\> distress, i think duress is when it's somebody else pressuring you to do something
46:12 <Ampera> That was a really weird experience.
46:24 <Ampera> All of my muscles, including my lungs, really just weakened.
46:35 <Nothing\> threats, violence, constraints, or other action brought to bear on someone to do something against their will or better judgment.
46:39 <DHess_US> distress, whatever
46:41 <Nothing\> there we are, duress
46:54 <Nothing\> DHess_US: i just correct you cuz i would want to be corrected myself
47:10 <Nothing\> i don't mean to be pedantic
47:33 <Nothing\> Ampera: huh i would never think weakness to be a sign of an allergic reaction
47:50 <desu> it is
47:58 <desu> anaphalaxis causes low blood pressure
48:04 <Nothing\> oh yeah that's right
48:15 <DHess_US> Yea, anaphalaxis is an emergency.
48:34 <Nothing\> i should really learn about anaphalaxis more, my curiosity is piqued
48:52 <Nothing\> there are some really good channels on youtube to help people in med school that explain stuff like that really well
49:14 <Nothing\> i remember one that explained the whole process of what happens from a chemical/hormonal point of view when you urinate
49:14 <desu> i cant watch that lol
49:19 <desu> i am a hypochondriac
49:30 <Nothing\> aw that sucks man, i used to be like that when i was younger
49:45 <Nothing\> but i was still really interested in medicine, actually that's probably what caused it
50:00 <Nothing\> medicine's been my earliest interest, ever since i could read
50:11 <desu> pharmacology is cool but reading about diseases makes me think i have them
50:18 <coppice_> that's a nasty disease, but they have placebos to treat it now
50:19 <Ampera> Nothing\, it's not, it's a symptom of the epinephrine
50:44 <Nothing\> i remember when i was 8 or so in the 90's they had a show on TLC called the operation where they'd show an operation and explain stuff that was happening throughout, it was really awesome
50:57 <Ampera> Chubbyemu is a neat channel like that
51:00 <Nothing\> i'd love to find episodes of it, but i've only ever been able to find one for a 3rd degree burn victim
51:21 <Nothing\> oh yeah i love chubbyemu, but even he makes me question my health sometimes
51:59 <Nothing\> he just put out a video the other day about that gamer who died after playing for 72 hours straight without ever moving
52:12 <Nothing\> which i dunno how you can do that in an internet cafe re: bathroom breaks
52:35 <desu> hardcore gamer
52:38 <Nothing\> i guess if you're in a little cubicle you could just wizz in a bottle, but then somebody would notice the bottle
53:54 <Nothing\> well that's great
54:47 <Nothing\> this oral surgeon i'm going to tomorrow for a consult just called to confirm, they only just now tell me that they bill you up front and you submit insurance stuff later, you know cuz anybody can pull a few hundred bucks out of thin air in the span of a weekend, especially when they're on disability
54:57 <Nothing\> er not tomorrow, monday
55:51 <DHess_US> I had a massive overdose of penicillin or a penicillin derivative when I was like 6 so they can't give it to me since then. That put me in the ER.
56:13 <DHess_US> That's my only known allergy.
56:20 <Nothing\> damn, what's an overdose of penicillin/beta-lactams even do to somebody?
56:36 <desu> liver damage
56:37 <DHess_US> It makes you allergic to penicillin and related antibiotics.
56:37 <desu> i think
56:58 <desu> oh
57:00 <Nothing\> my brother had a penicillin allergy since he was a kid too, but they gave me amoxicillin several times since then, him not realizing it was related to penicillin and he was fine, so i don't think he has that allergy anymore
57:05 <Nothing\> if it even was an allergy
57:06 <DHess_US> I was always catching strep throat and tonsillitis.
57:10 <desu> it's like if you inject animal blood
57:15 <desu> you can become allergic to read meat
57:16 <Nothing\> desu: damn that sucks man
57:24 <Nothing\> huh really
57:29 <desu> i think so
57:30 <DHess_US> I think it was amoxicillin they ODed me on but I don't really remember.
57:38 <desu> we have ticks here that can cause meat allergy
57:39 <Nothing\> i guess that makes sense, you're probably sensitizing your body to some sort of protein in it
57:51 <Nothing\> then when you eat it later your immune system goes nuts cuz it recognizes that protein
58:14 <DHess_US> Either the doctor gave the wrong perscription or the pharmacist filled it wrong.
58:16 <Nothing\> desu: permanently?
58:21 <desu> yeah
58:25 <Nothing\> damn that would suck
58:32 <desu> can still eat chicken though
58:36 <desu> also it's really rare
58:40 <desu> that anyone gets that
58:46 <DHess_US> They gave me these giant pink horse sized tablets when it was suppose to be a suspension.
58:54 <Nothing\> i wonder if stuff like that will be a problem when they perfect "sheet meat" like if they can make meat that lacks those proteins or whatever it is your body is reacting to
59:04 <Nothing\> sheet meat being meat grown in a lab with no animals involved
59:13 <DHess_US> Those proteins are what make meat taste good.
59:29 <DHess_US> sheet meat is murder
59:38 <DHess_US> tasty tasty murder
59:46 <Nothing\> lol yeah i'm really curious to see how vegetarians/vegans react to it
00:01 <Nothing\> or like, if we can make artificial human meat
00:06 <Nothing\> would it still be taboo to eat?
00:09 <Nothing\> if so, why?
00:36 <desu> it's probably not idea
00:38 <Nothing\> frankly i'd try artificial human meat if i had the chance
00:46 <desu> it can casuse that disease that makes holes in your brain
00:55 <Nothing\> and i could see some company making it as a sort of novelty product in the future
01:09 <Nothing\> oh yeah, creutzfeld jakob's disease i think
01:12 <DHess_US> https://crayfisher.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/boneless-chicken-ranch-far-side-247x300.png
01:29 <Nothing\> i think that's only if you eat the brain though
01:35 <Nothing\> prions, that's what causes it
01:37 <DHess_US> It tastes like pork. Not kidding.
01:40 <desu> people got it from cows
01:40 <Nothing\> actually prions are really interesting
01:44 <desu> in the 80s-90s
01:47 <Nothing\> they're like self replicating strands of protein
01:52 <desu> and i don't think they where eating the brains
02:07 <Nothing\> mad cow disease
02:18 <Nothing\> yeah there's another one i'm thinking of, i can't recall the technical name for it
03:09 <DHess_US> They are all the same. Mad Cow Disease, Kuru, Creutzfeldt�Jakob disease
03:25 <Nothing\> spongiform encephelopathy!
03:26 <Nothing\> that's it
03:34 <DHess_US> Scrapie in sheep. Chronic wasting disease in deer.
03:56 <DHess_US> Yes, they are all spongiform encephelopathy. They are all spread by prions but can also be genetic.
04:12 <Nothing\> yeah it's misfolded proteins, i was mistaken about the description
04:26 <DHess_US> The genetic version was identified as Creutzfeldt�Jakob disease but it is identical to Kuru.
04:32 <Nothing\> ah
04:51 <Nothing\> huh, fatal familial insomnia is caused by prions
04:53 <DHess_US> Mad Cow and Scrapie and CWD aren't exactly the same protein.
05:50 <DHess_US> They had a rash of Creutzfeldt�Jakob/Kuru spread through human growth hormone which used to only come from cadaver patuitary glands. Then there was another outbreak from contaminated surgical insturments.
06:29 <DHess_US> That's how they figure out that it was a prion which was just a misfolded protein.
07:10 <Nothing\> oh wow
07:23 <Nothing\> i wonder if something like that ever happened with insulin before they figured out how to make it synthetically
07:27 <DHess_US> The genetic version is like Hunington's disease. If the gene has too many repeats which is a possible mutation, then it has a chance of misfolding naturally and causing a chain reaction.;
07:40 <Nothing\> cuz it used to be derived from some sort of animals' pancreases
08:04 <DHess_US> So there were jewish families who had it genetically hence the name Creutzfeldt�Jakob
08:14 <Nothing\> interesting
08:24 <DHess_US> Later they found out that the prion was identical to the one which causes Kuru.
08:28 <Nothing\> especially that it's named after the first victims rather than the one who discovered it
08:58 <Nothing\> gah
09:10 <Nothing\> just kicked the leg of my table in just the right way to catch my toenail on it
09:24 <Nothing\> there's a sensation i could have done without
11:37 <desu> ouch
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54:21 <Halcyon> Ampera
07:50 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
07:59 <Halcyon> Heya
08:01 <Halcyon> How you doing?
08:03 <Ampera> how do
08:05 <Ampera> uh
08:07 <Ampera> ER
08:13 <Ampera> I've been discharged, but I went to that today
08:17 <Halcyon> What did they say?
08:47 <Halcyon> Did they give you Promethazine via IV?
08:50 <Ampera> They didn't really say anything, they just gave me some epinephrine, IV Benadryl, couple other things including a steroid
09:16 <Halcyon> You feeling better?
09:44 <Ampera> Diphenhydramine
09:54 <Ampera> that's what they gave me
10:53 <Ampera> Halcyon, oh yes, the reaction has gone away, and I have a working theory as to what caused it.
11:03 <Halcyon> Mmm do tell
11:53 <Ampera> I'm staying with my aunt, and they had the trees in their back yard sprayed for mosquitos (not DEET)
12:06 <Halcyon> Ahhh yeh
12:14 <Halcyon> Could explain the strange reaction
12:18 <Ampera> Well, not only did they spray it
12:24 <Ampera> I cut down one of the trees they sprayed
12:32 <Ampera> and then touched all the branches
12:34 <Ampera> and then burned it
12:36 <Ampera> multiple times\
12:42 <Halcyon> Brilliant
13:01 <Halcyon> Why would they spray a tree that was getting cut down?
13:24 <Ampera> They didn't know it was
13:28 <Ampera> they just did the whole yard.
13:45 <Halcyon> What were they spraying for? Bugs and things?
13:48 <Ampera> They sprayed it with something that was supposed to be non-irritating, but I had especially close contact to all of it
13:53 <Ampera> Mosquitos
14:01 <Halcyon> Right
14:36 <Halcyon> Well yeh, contact with garden chemicals isn't good, even the non-irritating type. There are all sorts of warnings on those bottles.
14:54 <Ampera> They also drenched the trees, since they had to re-do them to get the mosquitos to fuck off
15:04 <Halcyon> But the best way to get rid of mosquitos is to eliminate sources of stagnant water.
15:14 <Ampera> There are no sources of stagnant water on the property
15:21 <Halcyon> They why all the mozzies?
15:39 <Ampera> Because they are literally everywhere in the US
16:12 <Halcyon> Little assholes
17:57 <Halcyon> brb, need to go poopies
18:05 <Ampera> thanks for the information
25:38 <Halcyon> You're welcome :)
26:20 <Ampera> welcome back
34:35 <Ampera> Anyways that was an interesting experience.
34:46 <Ampera> The epinephrine especially.
34:50 <Halcyon> Yeh?
35:05 <Ampera> Did you ever have epinephrine?
35:11 <Halcyon> I can't say I have
35:15 <Ampera> I mean you're a cop, you have it on you.
35:40 <Ampera> or at least you guys should :P
36:03 <Halcyon> Why?
36:13 <Halcyon> We don't carry any drugs
36:28 <Ampera> Because it's one of the most critically improtant things to help save a life.
36:43 <Halcyon> That's what the ambo's are for
36:44 <Ampera> Cops around here carry EpiPens and Narcan
36:49 <Halcyon> Yeh we don't
36:52 <Ampera> No, this if ro when an ambulance would be too late
37:13 <Halcyon> In a medical emergency, Ambo's normally respond quicker than Police
37:18 <Ampera> EpiPens are used for high profile allergic reactions, like no breathing reaction
37:39 <Ampera> eh, I'm still surprised you guys don't carry them
37:52 <Halcyon> I guess its cost vs. benefit
37:59 <Halcyon> They would seldom get used and go out of date
38:14 <Ampera> Benefit is you save a life you otherwise couldn't
38:26 <Ampera> especially with something like Narcan, where police are very likely to respond to and need
38:28 <Halcyon> Well as I said, in such a situation, the Ambo's normally get there before we do
38:43 <Ampera> Where I live the fire department is ususally the first to the scene
38:48 <Halcyon> And if someone has an ilness that requires an EpiPen, they normally have one themselves
39:46 <Halcyon> Ambo's and the way jobs are dispatched is very different to Police
43:06 <Halcyon> Most emergency calls are answered with in 10 seconds and the time for an Ambo to get to a location is typically around 7 minutes
44:08 <Ampera> 7 minutes in an epipen case might be fatal
44:25 <Halcyon> Well as I said, most people who need one, already have one
44:40 <Halcyon> In 11 years in the Police, I've never attended a job where I've needed one and didn't have one available
44:47 <Halcyon> They are most common than AEDs
44:50 <Halcyon> *more
45:02 <Ampera> That's crazy
45:33 <Ampera> Anyways, epinephrine was really weird. It's adrenaline, so you'd think it would give you tons of energy and make you super aware, but it's the polar inverse.
45:57 <Ampera> All of my muscle control, including my lungs and vocals were severely reduced in strength, to the point where it was hard to breath (for a couple minutes)
46:11 <Halcyon> Weird
46:15 <Ampera> I started shivering, my heart rate went way up, but it fixed the entire issue
46:18 <Halcyon> So like a super relaxed type of feeling?
46:26 <Ampera> No, more like a dying kinda feeling
46:50 <Halcyon> Well you've always said you wanted that
46:51 <Ampera> I got super cold too, not feeling cold, but my body seemed to get cold
47:52 <Halcyon> So basically after that, the reaction went away?
48:05 <Ampera> Yeah, there
48:17 <Ampera> 's still a mild rash on my face, but it's largely gone, and it's not coming back
48:34 <Halcyon> YAY
51:11 <Halcyon> What should I make for dinner this evening?
52:38 <Halcyon> What the hell, this recipe calls for "150g bacon, roughly chopped (check gluten-free if required)"
52:51 <Halcyon> ALL Bacon is gluten free... because... it's fucking bacon
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05:35 <gremlinz> mmm bacon
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15:31 <DogWomble> Halcyon, the bacon itself of course is gluten free, i do wonder if they're referring to some of the additives they sometimes put on it?
50:15 <Halcyon> What kind of additives?
50:24 <Halcyon> Usually it's salt or some other kind of preservative
53:24 * T3sl41 preserves Halcyon
53:36 <T3sl41> wait, he's already super salty, nevermind
11:42 <Ampera> mmm, it's always nice when the official package is out of date
11:48 <Ampera> thankfully the AUR is here to save the day
31:49 <Halcyon> :)
43:38 * Ampera slaps then hugs Halcyon
44:01 <Halcyon> YAY! Abuse and love!
44:16 <Halcyon> I reckon you'd be into a bit of kink Ampera if you were into sex.
44:19 <Ampera> Sadocisim and Masochism!
44:20 <Halcyon> You and Steve would get on :P
44:22 <Ampera> oh
44:24 <Ampera> no
44:31 <Halcyon> No?
44:39 <Halcyon> Don't fancy being bitten and whipped?
44:41 <Ampera> lol, I'm in full on fetish territory, nevermind kink
44:47 <Halcyon> Oh
44:48 <Halcyon> HAH
44:57 <Ampera> it makes normal BDSM look like agressive hugging
45:33 <Ampera> hold on, switching to my Xpra IRC client
46:23 <Ampera> yay, I have enough bandwidth for Xpra to keep its shit together for a little while
46:30 <Halcyon> \o/
46:44 <Halcyon> Ampera, can you come and get the paper that's outside for me
46:46 <Halcyon> I can'
46:50 <Halcyon> I can't be effed
47:08 <Ampera> I wouldn't even do it if you were here and the paper was just outside
47:16 <Halcyon> :P
47:27 <Halcyon> You are so mean to me, you'd be a shit boyfriend :P
47:46 <Ampera> not exactly trying to be a "boy"friend, but alright then
47:51 <Halcyon> or girlfriend, whatever
47:52 <Ampera> ya fat cunt
47:55 <Ampera> lol
48:06 <Halcyon> Hahaha
48:11 <Halcyon> I'm not even fat you fucker
48:25 <Ampera> you're not a cunt either, but here we are
48:33 <Halcyon> That's debatable
48:44 <Halcyon> One of my mates calls me a cunt all the time
48:53 <Halcyon> But he's a giant homo so *shrug*
48:57 <Ampera> she sounds like a fucking faggot
49:04 <Ampera> if I ever encounter her I will probably kill her
49:05 <Halcyon> Yes, she is
49:10 <Halcyon> She's a bitch :P
49:17 <Halcyon> Massive power bottom too
49:20 <Halcyon> Hahah
49:20 <Ampera> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
49:40 <Ampera> alright a little fucking around is alright, but idk if your mom would like you talking about her in that way
49:53 <Ampera> then again, I just threatened to kill her, so
49:55 <Halcyon> First of all, it's "mum"
49:57 <Ampera> I guess we're even
50:00 <Halcyon> Second of all, shutup :P
50:16 <Ampera> first of all, it's "shut up"
50:18 <Ampera> second of all, no
50:27 <Ampera> <3
50:45 <Halcyon> You are correct :P
50:58 <Halcyon> I'm supposed to be doing house work
51:01 <Halcyon> You keep distracting me
51:05 <Ampera> GOOD
51:08 <Ampera> because I am lonely
51:10 <Ampera> and bored
51:10 <Halcyon> It is good
51:16 <Halcyon> Didn't say it was bad
51:18 <Halcyon> Just saying
51:19 <Ampera> lol
51:33 <Halcyon> Although it's wine time
51:38 <Halcyon> EEVBlog wine time
51:43 <Halcyon> Dammit, doesn't work :P
51:56 <Ampera> If I were on my computer at home I could have responded
52:04 <Halcyon> It's not the same :)
52:04 <Ampera> but I don't happen to have that entered into this client
53:17 <Ampera> I'm listening to music
53:29 <Halcyon> ELO ?
53:45 <Ampera> no
53:56 <Ampera> my entire collection on scramble
53:56 <Halcyon> Spice Girls?
53:58 <Halcyon> :P
53:59 <Ampera> fuck no
54:05 <Ampera> shit's gay
54:11 <Halcyon> So are you
55:27 <Halcyon> Ill be back soon, I just want to get a few more things tidied up
55:46 <Halcyon> My aunt brought over a whole bunch of my late uncles things (old computers, techy bits)
55:51 <Halcyon> Just want to sort through it
57:23 <Ampera> http://amperaa.net/cdn/collection.txt This is my set of music
57:27 <Ampera> ooo, neat, old tech shit
57:36 <Ampera> send pictures
57:40 <Halcyon> That's where I got the slide projector from
57:53 <Halcyon> I got a heap of old phones too, mainly Nokia
57:54 <Ampera> I mean just in general, nudes, nature, doesn't have to be the tech
58:01 <Halcyon> Hahah
58:06 <Halcyon> Since when do you want dick pics?
58:14 <Ampera> >.> <.<
58:21 <Ampera> you have a dick?
58:27 <Ampera> oh shit oh fuck
58:30 <Halcyon> Yep, and it's a nice one :P
58:35 <Ampera> OH SHIT OH FUCK
01:36 <Halcyon> Heh, I just tried to login to a site and instead of "Incorrect username/password", the error is: "The credentials you provided cannot be determined to be authentic."
01:45 <Halcyon> Oddly worded
01:46 <Ampera> There is a hole in my arm, stupid IV
01:50 <Ampera> it's sore
02:10 <Ampera> it was a huge ass needle too, surprisingly didn't hurt going in
02:14 <Halcyon> I could make a butt sex joke, but I won't
02:22 <Ampera> Anal?
02:23 <Halcyon> You've been through a lot yesterday/today
02:40 <Ampera> oh thanks Halcyon, when I'm down and hurting you won't even try to lighten my spirits with a joke
02:43 <Ampera> best friend ever :P
02:55 <Halcyon> Yeh, it was going to be something to do with a prick, anal, not sure, haven't crafted the joke yet.
03:00 <Halcyon> But it won't be the first time :P
03:09 <Ampera> Well you're a crafty bugger, so you'll get it.
03:26 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you like huge ass c(l)ocks?
03:40 <Halcyon> Sure, they are fun to play with
04:03 <Ampera> check signal
04:13 <Halcyon> I'll have to go find my phone, standby
05:25 <Halcyon> Haven't got anything yet
05:31 <Halcyon> Oh there we go
05:33 <Ampera> just sent, had to retake the picture
05:39 <Halcyon> That's huge!
05:41 <Ampera> my aunt ordered a big clock, and I just hung it today
05:41 <Halcyon> Is it yours?
05:42 <Ampera> mhm
05:45 <Ampera> no my aunt's
05:59 <Halcyon> (I was hoping to keep the cock jokes going but you ruined it)
06:10 <Halcyon> Why buy one that doesn't fit the wall?
06:10 <Ampera> My aunt, her husband, and my granfather all live together in the same house, and she got the clock
06:18 <Ampera> she didn't think it would be that big
06:27 <Ampera> but it looks so comically big we decided to keep it
06:31 <Halcyon> I spy a bigger wall in the background it would work well on
06:49 <Ampera> Its also a staircase
06:57 <Halcyon> Even better
06:58 <Ampera> and would make changing batteries a pain in the cunt
07:05 <Halcyon> Oh well
07:07 <Ampera> no, ladders + staircase != better
07:14 <Halcyon> You'd only need to do it once a year or something?
07:41 <Halcyon> Seeing as we're sharing pictures, I'll send you one ;-)
07:51 <Ampera> my uncle is morbidly obeese, my grandfather is in his 60's, and my aunt has two fake hips
07:56 <Ampera> that'll be a /no/
08:04 <Ampera> well not morbidly obeese
08:08 <Ampera> but not a lightweight
08:22 <Ampera> He was a 9/11 first responder actually.
09:01 <Halcyon> I got my uncles old Viewcam video camera
09:09 <Halcyon> It takes Hi8 tapes
09:12 <Halcyon> Still works :D
09:31 <Ampera> ah, Hi8
09:39 <Ampera> I was thinking Hi8 or Digi8
09:52 <Halcyon> There was an old tape in there of my uncle before he died
09:58 <Halcyon> I was a little sad yesterday watching that
10:22 <Halcyon> Anyway, now I'll send you one of my penis :P
10:42 <Ampera> I got a picture of my grandfather's pussy
10:48 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
10:58 <Halcyon> See, dumb animal, you even have to wear gloves
11:28 <Ampera> it's a kitten, also the next one better fucking knock sense into you
11:33 <Ampera> fuckin adorable
11:43 <Halcyon> Oh, I found gun things too among my uncles crap
11:57 <Halcyon> He was collecting rounds and shells for some reason
12:07 <Halcyon> I those were from WW2
12:15 <Ampera> Hard to get an idea of the scale, but that looks sort of like 50BMG incendiary rounds
12:16 <Ampera> white tip
12:32 <Ampera> idk if they used the same colour coding in WW2
12:47 <Halcyon> It's about 76mm long
13:11 <Halcyon> It has some numbers on the bottom but I can't quite read them
13:25 <Halcyon> "198" maybe and "53"
13:46 <Halcyon> Could also be 188 and 63
13:50 <Halcyon> Not sure
14:51 <Halcyon> There are bigger ones too
14:57 <Ampera> hm
15:12 <Ampera> how thick is the bullet?
15:19 <Ampera> also I can do one better
15:21 <Halcyon> Probably about 10mm
15:30 <Halcyon> Maybe slightly less?
15:44 <Ampera> also that ruler is for fags
15:45 <Halcyon> Between 8-10
16:00 <Ampera> could be something like 30-06 if it's WW2
16:03 <Halcyon> Yeh, it's my Gay and Lesbian Liaison Officer rule
16:24 <Ampera> but as I said, I can do one better
16:44 <Halcyon> Pew pew
16:57 <Ampera> to prove it's not off the internet here's a picture of me holding it, and also the remnants of the hellspawn that is my face
17:28 <Ampera> It's my grandfather's but he's effectively given it to me.
17:31 <Halcyon> You almost look like those crazy people who go on a shooting spree and the news companies have trawled their social media accounts for photos :P
17:49 <Ampera> Yeah you won't kill anyone with this, it's not really all that possible.
17:56 <Ampera> Worst thing you can do it get someone in the eye
18:02 <Halcyon> But yes, my ruler also covers Trans
18:04 <Halcyon> So be happy cunt
18:10 <Ampera> I'm not, I hate transgenderism
18:18 <Halcyon> I fucking give up
18:19 <Halcyon> :P
18:20 <Ampera> wish it didn't exist
19:03 <Halcyon> I also didn't mean to have it that close to my groin, it's just my desk is messy at the moment and it's the only space I have
19:09 <Ampera> That's what's left of my face.
19:12 <Ampera> wait, groin?
19:22 <Ampera> HOLY FUCK THAT'S HUGE
19:29 <Halcyon> Awww you poor thing, it must have felt like crap
19:31 <Halcyon> :(
19:43 <Ampera> Not really, not itching, more just really puffy
19:43 <Halcyon> A full 30cm :P
20:01 <Ampera> 12 inches, got it
20:23 <Halcyon> Well a bit more if you count the edge bits without any measurement marks on it
20:38 <Ampera> I meant your penis you moron
20:52 <Halcyon> You can't see my penis :P
21:05 <Ampera> OwO *notices bulge*
21:20 <Halcyon> I just want to make that publicly clear, Ampera has never seen my penis.
21:34 <Halcyon> Oh stop it. You're embarrassing me
21:35 <Ampera> he lies
21:44 <Ampera> fuckin peod
21:45 <Ampera> *pedo
22:13 <Halcyon> Which is exactly why you haven't seen it. I aint no kiddy fiddler
22:18 <Halcyon> I lock cunts up for that shit
22:27 <Ampera> Halcyon, anyways I'm excited to load that gun up and fire it
22:39 <Halcyon> Are we still talking about cock? ;-)
22:47 <Ampera> yes and no
22:50 <Halcyon> Bahaha
22:57 <Ampera> also lock me up, I've seen a minor's penis
23:01 <Ampera> while crying in the mirror
23:10 <Halcyon> Your own?
23:21 <Ampera> good job, you got the joke, I was afraid you wouldn't
23:39 <Halcyon> Well it was the crying in the mirror part that gave it away :P
23:56 <Ampera> Wait, you sent me pictures of two different cartridges
24:01 <Halcyon> Yes, I did
24:04 <Ampera> I've never did btw
24:21 <Halcyon> See your penis?
24:24 <Ampera> That looks like 30-06
24:34 <Ampera> cry in the mirror
24:36 <Halcyon> Yeah *shrug* I know nothing about guns and things
24:38 <Ampera> sadly I have seen my penis
24:42 <Halcyon> I really don't care either
24:48 <Ampera> then can you tell me what type of gun that is?
25:07 <Halcyon> I'm going to give them to a mate who collects this shit, he has a firearms licence so he can legally possess them
25:11 <Halcyon> No fucking idea Amps
25:14 <Halcyon> I only know my gun
25:27 <Ampera> Guess the caliber at least
25:41 <Halcyon> Honestly, no idea. I only know mine
25:49 <Ampera> .177
25:50 <Halcyon> Any other gun, I'm *shrug*
25:55 <Halcyon> OK... cool?
26:01 <Ampera> 4.5mm
26:05 <Ampera> in other words, a BB gun
26:10 <Halcyon> Pew pew
26:11 <Ampera> manually powered
26:22 <Ampera> and totally legal to own and operate with a license here
26:23 <Halcyon> I've shot BBs before
26:33 <Ampera> I haven't.
26:42 <Ampera> Up until recently I've never even touched a real gun
26:45 <Halcyon> A friend of mine growing up had one, he lived on a farm
26:55 <Halcyon> We did the routine thing of shooting cans
27:37 <Ampera> I'm not sure what I'm gonna shoot, my yard isn't that big
27:52 <Ampera> ideally something that would minimize ricochets.
28:45 <Halcyon> I think you would like it at mine
28:56 <Halcyon> It's not acres, but I back onto bushland
29:24 <Ampera> can I shoot a BB gun?
29:40 <Halcyon> Getting it here might be difficult :P
29:57 <Ampera> What are the transit regulations?
30:01 <Halcyon> No fucking idea
30:08 <Ampera> well you're supposed to know
30:14 <Halcyon> Why? I don't work for Customs
30:22 <Ampera> I meant in the nation you moron
30:46 <Ampera> customs is likely not an issue if intranational transport is unregulated
31:04 <Ampera> not that I plan to bring it
31:58 <Halcyon> I will allow you to have fires however
32:03 <Halcyon> As long as it's not a total fire ban
32:43 <Ampera> Come visit the US if/when I move to Texas, then you can fire a real gun, use real fireworks, and, of course, have a fire.
32:50 <Halcyon> \o/
32:55 <Halcyon> I would like that actually
32:58 <Halcyon> I've never been overseas
33:15 <Halcyon> OH! Also Ampera, we have a bird now!
33:16 <Ampera> Just mulling over life, Texas seems like a neat place to live.
33:21 <Ampera> Domesticated?
33:33 <Halcyon> Yup
33:36 <Halcyon> A Cockatiel
33:37 <Ampera> Of what sort?
33:40 <Ampera> Nice
33:53 <Ampera> aww that's cute
34:00 <Halcyon> He's only young, few months old
34:47 <Ampera> They can live a decent amount of time
34:52 <Halcyon> Yeh
36:08 <Halcyon> I'm watching Mike Jeavons
36:11 <Halcyon> His cat Basil is cut
36:13 <Halcyon> cute
36:16 <Halcyon> Still a cunt, but cute
36:19 <Ampera> I am listening to ELO
36:25 <Ampera> Why the hell do you hate cats so much
36:29 <Ampera> it's actually making me sad :P
36:39 <Halcyon> You love being sad
36:44 <Halcyon> You can't handle happy
37:06 <Ampera> cats make me happy
38:06 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/kCzdu6TrTKc?t=554
38:44 <Ampera> mmm, video over Xpra/WAN
40:19 <Ampera> I think I might have some ice cream
41:21 <Halcyon> Aw damn, I didn't buy desert
41:26 <Halcyon> Maybe I can make pikelets...
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49:58 <T3sl41> Ampera, this wasn't you was it https://www.reddit.com/r/BrandNewSentence/comments/c3hhsq/spread_the_seed_of_communism_in_your_capitalist/
50:44 <Ampera> no I'm u/AmpSyndicated
55:44 <Halcyon> :P
55:47 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl41
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56:13 <T3sl4> Heylcyon
56:39 <Halcyon> :D
57:10 <Halcyon> Ampera keeps asking to see my penis, I think he is getting all moist over the thought
57:12 <Halcyon> :P
01:12 <Ampera> Halcyon, HAH, STRAIGHT!
01:20 <Ampera> lol
01:38 <Halcyon> Wha?
02:22 <Halcyon> Don't accuse me of such horrendous things!
03:32 <Ampera> I knew it, the gays never wanted equality, they wanted supremacy.
03:37 <Ampera> THE REPUBLICANS WERE RIGHT
03:42 <Halcyon> Ampera, I just found a bunch of old hard drives in the bottom of a crate
03:52 <Halcyon> Including a WD Caviar 2GB
03:53 <Halcyon> :)
06:08 <Halcyon> Nice, a Quantum Fireball 1.2 GB
06:21 <Halcyon> That'll be long dead by now I'm sure
06:44 <Ampera> I wouldn't be so sure.
06:45 * T3sl4 casts Hard Drive on Halcyon
06:51 <Ampera> I have a working WD Caviar 2GB myself
07:37 <Halcyon> Do you need any old IDE drives Amps?
10:06 <Ampera> A good number, but most of them are too high capacity to be of much use to me
10:17 <Ampera> Most of my drives are 80 GB SATA
10:19 <Ampera> for whatever reason
11:57 <Ampera> (Halcyon)
12:26 <Halcyon> Yeh, so do you want smaller ones?
12:31 <Halcyon> I can send you some with food
13:00 <Ampera> Sure, but I would rather you test them if that's not too much troublew
13:09 <Halcyon> I can do that
13:16 <Ampera> Anything IDE or SCSI
13:36 <Halcyon> I have a few SCSI drives in the 120-300GB range
13:44 <Halcyon> Not sure I have a machine to test them though
13:51 <Ampera> LVD-68 or SCA-80?
14:19 <Halcyon> I'd have to go check, not sure
14:27 <Ampera> If SCA-80, I already have enough
15:50 <Halcyon> OMG, there is a stupid cat outside
16:22 <Ampera> aww, give it noms :#
16:24 <Ampera> *:3
16:39 <T3sl4> OMG, there is a stupid Halcyon inside
16:43 <Ampera> ^^^^
17:08 <Ampera> I think I might buy that Behringer sound device in a few days, the one with four channels
17:14 <Ampera> it looks really neat, and perfect for what I'd want
17:31 <Ampera> I asked one more guy for what he uses, but this should be fine.
18:29 <Halcyon> I just had a quick browse, I have heaps of IDE disks under 80GB, probably 30-40 of them
18:34 <Ampera> I like the ability to plug a load of devices into it, so I could do live multi-part recordings if I wanted to, and not have to swap around instruments.
18:39 <Halcyon> With about 10-15 in single-digit GB
18:47 <Ampera> How many 8GB or under?
18:53 <Halcyon> I'll go look again...
18:59 <Ampera> because that's the LBA limit on most of my AT class machines
19:09 <Ampera> using AT class /very/ loosely
21:06 <Halcyon> Not many, I sent you pics
21:53 <Halcyon> I have a few in the 3.2 to 33.8 GB range, but I'd have to pull them all out to see what they are
23:28 <Ampera> Well, I'm not in dire need, all the computers that need drives have them, so send what you want. If you have any LVD-68 Ultra160 or greater drives, I'd be interested in those for my Pentium Pro.
24:47 <Halcyon> No worries, from memory I think I have some U160's, I'll dig them out and send them to you too
25:06 <Halcyon> Weight it an issue so I'll talk more when it comes time to sending you things
25:26 <Ampera> If it's too much, don't worry at all, I don't need it.
27:07 <Halcyon> Yes but I'd like to send you things you want, not just sugar and fat
27:21 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
27:38 <Ampera> I'm not good at asking for things, I don't like to feel like I'm taking advantage of people.
28:03 <Halcyon> You're like me
28:10 <Halcyon> But I would feel good sending you things
28:46 <Ampera> yeah I guess so, I just don't want to ask too much
29:01 <Halcyon> All good mate :)
29:20 <Ampera> speaking of mating, would you like to aid me in a science experiment?
30:55 <Ampera> Halcyon,
31:07 <Halcyon> Maybe
31:13 <Halcyon> What does it involve?
31:27 <T3sl4> hah
31:49 <Ampera> I will DM you details, standby.
31:54 <T3sl4> also, i'll help with that when i've more free time, next week probably?
32:12 <Ampera> I'm back on the 25th, any time after that.
53:02 * Halcyon noms on a sammich
55:02 * Ampera listens to more really fucking nice music
56:53 <Ampera> This is weird, I've been pumped full of all sorts of antihistemic, system calming bullshit for the last 48, and I'm not that tired
57:36 <Halcyon> \o/
58:37 <Ampera> no that's not a \o/, that's a :/
58:46 <Ampera> since it's 02:06
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06:22 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
08:03 * steve30 feels tired
12:06 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap and purrs
23:53 <Halcyon> YAY
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