// #eevblog — 2019-06-03
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00:01:30 Quit: mrpackethead ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
01:43:33 <rust_collector> oh, it is sunday
01:43:41 <rust_collector> hey-o people
01:43:46 <steve30> hi
01:44:07 <rust_collector> Is anything interesting happening?
01:44:17 <steve30> i'm waiting for dinner
01:44:24 <rust_collector> me too
01:44:35 <rust_collector> It looks like no one is going to make it
01:48:31 <rust_collector> I am pretty happy about the rain today
01:48:50 <rust_collector> just a little bit, but enough to not go outside to do things
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06:03:56 <Guest|33226> Hello, is this a place where I can ask about Hakko tips?
06:04:17 <steve30> sure
06:04:36 <steve30> whether anyone will have an answer is another matter :)
06:08:50 <Guest|33226> I have a Hakko FX-888D with the T18-D16 tip, and some Kester 63/37 .031" (.8mm) solder (24-6337-0027). For SMD work would .02" (.5mm) solder (24-6337-0010) be appropriate? Are there any other Hakko tips I should pick up?
06:09:06 <Guest|33226> The default tip / the solder I have seems just a tad too big and bulky for finer work
06:10:34 <rust_collector> I think you should at least get the thinner solder. I don't know about your tip, but I say you should get a smaller one and see how it works for you?
06:13:26 <Guest|33226> I just wasn't sure which tip was appropriate
06:13:42 <Guest|33226> will prob pick up the thinner solder though yeah
06:14:25 <rust_collector> I have a feeling it depends a lot on what you like. I tend to use small screwdriver shaped ones, but I am not into tiny electronics much
06:14:46 <T3sl4> i picked up the uh, there's a bent point tip, and a angled-cut cylinder tip
06:15:03 <T3sl4> both have a sharper edge than the original flattened-oval-point thing, better for SMTs
06:15:23 <T3sl4> i'm not bothered by solder size, but finer solder is easier to dose correctly
06:16:33 <Guest|33226> Do you remember the codes? I am browsing this page http://www.hakko.com/english/products/hakko_fx888d_tips.html#productNav to try to find the right tips
06:16:42 <Guest|33226> the cylinder one, are you referring to T18-C1?
06:16:44 <rust_collector> https://www.hakko.com/english/tip_selection/series_t18_narrowpitch.html#type_b
06:17:50 <T3sl4> uh
06:18:13 <T3sl4> the angled-cut cylinder one is T18-C2
06:19:01 <T3sl4> probably the T18-BR02 is the bent one
06:19:19 <T3sl4> the K would be good too
06:20:22 <Guest|33226> ahh
06:24:31 <Guest|33226> do you normally want the cylinder tip to be a little bigger than the default?
06:25:13 <T3sl4> yeah, you still get a thin wedge to poke at corners and small things, but you have a lot of meat behind it, good for heavy things too
06:29:36 <Guest|33226> Also I was watching this part of this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uiroWBkdFY&t=1m56s he puts some substance over all the legs and then drags/solders without having heated up the metal first?
06:29:49 <Guest|33226> is heating up the metal first not always required?
06:30:33 <T3sl4> paste flux, awesome stuff
06:32:36 <Guest|33226> does flux remove the need to heat up the metal first?
06:34:25 <T3sl4> the board may be preheated, depends
06:34:33 <T3sl4> hand soldering doesn't usually preheat tho
06:35:10 <rust_collector> not much metal to heat on those things, unless the board is a big heat sink
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09:51:53 <Guest|33226> how do you like to keep things steady when placing a PCB underneath a microscope?
09:52:18 <Guest|33226> when part of the board is on the microscope platform but the other half is just hanging off and always causing things to flop about, slide, etc
09:54:59 <T3sl4> tape
09:57:10 <Guest|33226> that's what i have been doing yeah, just wasnt sure if there was a smaller version of helping hands or something
09:58:03 <T3sl4> may be, dunno
09:59:14 <Guest|33226> any dremel recs? ive seen dremel 4000 mentioned a lot but wasnt sure
09:59:29 <Guest|33226> cutting, sanding, buffing
09:59:41 <T3sl4> i dont have one
10:01:40 <rust_collector> proxxon is the only good-ish one I have tried. I have a cheap mains powered dremel, and it does ok, but you do notice it is cheap and not awesome. I would recommend a proxxon, or the cheapest one you can find, lol
10:19:09 <coppice_> dremels aren't very powerful. The ones with the quick tool release are OK if you only use dremel tools with them, but they are very sensitive to the tool being the exact diameter, which a lot of nice 3rd party tools aren't
10:30:18 <rust_collector> Wireless Sporty Shockproof Running Push Up Sports Bra - Black 38
10:30:28 <rust_collector> is that like a smartbra?
11:35:18 <rust_collector> hmm, my mug is leaking coffee all over
11:39:22 <DHess_US> That happens with my helium II coffee all the time. It leaks all over no matter what cup I use.
11:39:40 <rust_collector> that is annoying
11:44:47 <T3sl4> DHess_US, a cool brew, iced coffee has nothing on it
11:51:10 <rust_collector> it is 4 in the morning, on my 3rd week off, and I am drinking coffee, and... blah
11:51:24 <rust_collector> sounds like a plan
11:51:32 <rust_collector> maybe not a good plan, but
11:51:34 * T3sl4 irishes up rust_collector's beverage
11:51:40 <rust_collector> thanks
11:52:17 <rust_collector> HEY! why did you put potatoes in my coffee?
11:52:28 <T3sl4> it's okay, they're fermented
11:52:36 <rust_collector> oh, ok
11:52:44 <T3sl4> irish i were drunk
11:53:03 <T3sl4> need to restock the liquor cabinet
11:53:59 <rust_collector> every now and then, I wonder if I should gut moms old huge piano, and make it into a bar.
11:54:42 <rust_collector> I used to work with an ex taxi driver from dublin. listening to that guy was quite entertaining
12:28:39 <DHess_US> Irishing means adding wheat.
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17:50:36 <Halcyon> Evening all
17:50:57 <steve30> hi Halcyon
17:51:04 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
17:53:52 <steve30> i need to go and stock up on coffee
17:57:29 <Halcyon> Do you buy coffee beans?
18:03:37 <steve30> nah, i get ground coffee
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18:31:09 <T3sl4> well it ain't sky coffee
18:31:24 <Halcyon> Not one of your better jokes T3sl4 :P
18:31:44 <T3sl4> i'll take that as higher praise than usual :D
18:43:41 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4 dear...
18:45:14 <Halcyon> With regards to fibre patch leads.... I understand the different between multimode and single mode... but they all come with different connectors, like LC, SC, ST and so on. Is that purely different connection types for different equipment or is the a reason for the different connectors?
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18:47:31 <T3sl4> if they're optically incompatible, shouldn't they be physically too?
18:47:51 <Halcyon> But you can get LC to SC cables for example
18:48:25 <T3sl4> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:48:33 <Halcyon> Very confusion
18:48:35 <T3sl4> the great thing about standards
18:48:46 <Halcyon> (said in a thick Asian accent)
18:51:52 <Halcyon> I'm running a length of fibre between my house to next door
18:52:10 <Halcyon> I'll probably just stick with Single mode with LC connectors
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19:21:56 <K> hello
19:22:01 <Halcyon> Hey K
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20:41:16 * steve30 returns from shopping
21:12:19 <Halcyon> Did you get coffee?
21:20:55 <rust_collector> coffeeeeeeeeeee
21:23:49 <steve30> yes
21:23:53 <Halcyon> YAY!
21:28:49 <steve30> i had to limp round the shops a bit though as my hip went funny
21:30:09 <Halcyon> Aww no
21:30:16 * Halcyon massages Steve's hips
21:32:12 <steve30> :)
21:40:53 <steve30> I went past the apple store today. I still think the staff in those look silly wandering around with walkie talkies.
21:42:39 <Halcyon> I think they look silly, because they chose to work for Apple
21:43:21 <Halcyon> Apple isn't even the 2nd largest manufacturer of phones these days, let alone computers.
22:28:43 <K> for all the dot-matrix printer fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98bK1Lww3hY
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22:57:07 <damian> doiiiiii
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