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00:24 <sofakng> This is for my 2-pin IR receiver diode. I also have a 3-pin IR receiver (which demodulates, etc) but I'm trying to visualize the IR signal before I use that receiver (for learning purposes)
01:00 <DHess_US> That configuration will have limited bandwidth which is what you are seeing.
01:15 <DHess_US> Look up "photodiode amplifier" or "transimpedance amplifier".
01:58 <DHess_US> The photodiode needs to operate into a low impedance to prevent its junction capacitance from slowing eveyrthing down.
02:28 <DHess_US> "transimpedance" means converting a current to a voltage.
03:16 <sofakng> Thanks so much. I'll do some research... It looks like most examples I'm seeing use an op-amp for a photodiode amplifier?
04:07 <DHess_US> That is the common way. I'm searching for another example.
05:43 <sofakng> I'm a little confused because examples like this video (https://youtu.be/DNAgJrnj4EM?t=34), show the circuit with a photo diode being simple like I described yet they show the oscilliscope and it has square waves
18:22 <hsn> hey, im using TC4 and TC5 in atmel asf.
19:18 <hsn> when i init both timers it seems somthing doesnt work
19:42 <hsn> 	_pm_enable_bus_clock(PM_BUS_APBC, TC4);
19:42 <hsn> 	_gclk_enable_channel(TC4_GCLK_ID, CONF_GCLK_TC4_SRC);
19:42 <hsn> 	timer_init(&TIMER_1, TC4, _tc_get_timer());
19:50 <hsn> is this wrong? to init both of them?
20:44 <hsn> https://snag.gy/lJkWN5.jpg
22:03 <DHess_US> Hmm, found my entertainment for today. Linus posted in the forums which means he is going to call people idiots.
28:07 <K> when you init one, it works?
28:17 <K> and that picture is for ants.
30:50 <hsn> im testing timer0 and yes it works when i comment this: TIMER_1_init();
31:10 <hsn> im an ant :D
32:02 <hsn> u mean its small picture?
32:49 <hsn> https://snag.gy/OKuSlJ.jpg same clock
33:04 <hsn> generator
35:49 <K> i do not have expirience w atmels arm cores, but when dealing with smt32 wierdness, it usually was that i had forgotten to enable something
36:01 <K> picture looks ok though
37:12 <hsn> its wierd that it works when i comment the other timer init so i thought its related to clock ..
37:42 <hsn> can all peripherals work on one generic clock generator?
38:03 <K> hm, i would suppose so
38:20 <K> have you tried to set up different clock for the other timer?
40:12 <hsn> no
40:42 <hsn> im running my adc on same clock
41:16 <hsn> nvm above sentence its not tested
42:37 <Ampera> Halcyon, it doesn't /have/ to be a crime for US police to get involved, but they don't do community leading like what you've described to me.
43:04 <Ampera> Police departments in the US ususally have a respected, but cold position in the public mindset, ususally the more liberal you go, the more police are hated.
44:04 <Ampera> It's not undeserved, but it's also not directed in any kind or accurate manner. Some go so far as doing things like demanding police never go near a pride parade, probably so they can strip naked and have nobody complain :/
44:25 <K> we have things separated a bit - there is state police, which handles more serious crime, and local, municipality level police, which handles everything else
45:46 <Ampera> Depends on what you mean by serious crime. Police have three levels in the US, not counting federal agencies like the FBI. City/Town police, the county sherrif, and state troopers.
46:33 <Ampera> It's the troopers who are effectively militia in a way, holding high power assets like SWAT or other big guns.
46:41 <desu> can't you kinda escape some less erious crimes by going across state lines in america?
46:51 <desu> like petty theft
46:52 <desu> and such
47:22 <K> Ampera - like if someone has been beaten up or mugged or like that
47:51 <Ampera> desu, the only thing you avoid is one jurisdiction not being able to cross over to the other. It's like EU country boundaries, some might be alright with the occasional mile into the border to grab someone, but the Greman police can't just unannounced go into Italy and start arresting people.
48:04 <K> a drunkard yelling in the streets gets local police
48:19 <Ampera> At that point it's presumably another jurisdiction who is contacted, or if the crime is small enough, people just stop caring
50:05 <desu> oh that makes sense
50:48 <Ampera> The EU and US are very similar entities, even though the EU is not a country, and the US is.
51:15 <Ampera> States make their own laws, can have their own militaries, have their own police, their own jails, and their own government.
51:47 <Ampera> Across state to state things like the death penalty can be allowed and then sometimes not in others.
52:08 <K> hmm, a country can leave eu on their own will though
52:14 <K> not sure how it is with usa
52:18 <desu> not really
52:32 <Ampera> Depends on how dedicated they are to leaving.
52:36 <desu> look at brexit it's pretty though for them to leave for econmic reasons
52:51 <K> political reasons
52:57 <K> imho
53:04 <Ampera> every reason
53:11 <Ampera> The EU is fucked, the UK is fucked
53:15 <K> they had 2+ years to deal, they didnt
53:25 <Ampera> nobody is happy, but not enough people are unhappy in the right ways and place to actually fix it
53:27 <desu> i thought it had to do with them having to renogotiate a bunch of trade deals mostly
53:37 <Ampera> desu, they haven't renegotiated anything at all
54:06 <K> the deal is made from eu's side, but not ratified in uk houses
55:32 <desu> oh
55:53 <K> "deal is baad, lalalalalal can't hear you"
56:33 <K> i do not get why they didn't bin the whole thing the second it was aparent that there will be troubles with nothern ireland border again
56:56 <K> like people dying in bombings real
57:10 <Ampera> The EU is letting the UK do whatever it wants, which is more than I would have given, they should have booted them out at the door cold when they complained 2 years wasn't enough.
57:39 <K> well, uk has time till end of october and that's it
57:43 <Ampera> K, because FULL BREXIT NOW, and also DON'T HURT OUR WAY OF LIFE NOW, and also HOUSE OF COMMONS SUCKS NOW
57:52 <K> idiots
57:56 <Ampera> Watch it, they'll ask for an extention, and get one
58:02 <Ampera> maybe that will go on for 20 years
58:17 <Ampera> and they just become the biggest exception in the sea of exceptions that is the EU
58:22 <desu> the uk is such a weird place
58:26 <Ampera> not like they already weren't
58:27 <Ampera> amen
58:52 <K> we'll see
58:57 <Ampera> Politically and socially they are screwed. Comedy is dead, free speech is dead, the right to complain is dead, and the police are dead.
59:18 <Ampera> It's a country that needs to be held upside down by its ankles and shook hard, so maybe Brexit will do that to them.
59:22 <Ampera> or just make them worse
00:29 <desu> well their own gov't is in some ways worse than the EU
00:41 <desu> the eu is not making countries arrest people for twitter posts
00:44 <desu> yet at least
00:47 <desu> im sure they will soon
00:50 <Ampera> ^
01:31 <Ampera> At least their courts don't say to a man who made a video, in which he said right at the start he was joking, "I don't see any joke here, and context doesn't matter anyways",
01:46 <Ampera> but they did say that a woman was not allowed to call the Prophen Muhammed a pedophile
01:57 <Ampera> even though he was, and that's genuine religious freedom
02:27 <Ampera> but all of the prog cunts in the EU "human rights" court I guess thought nobody could make fun of the special child that is islam
02:54 <Ampera> and I have an EU citizenship, so I'm not too off about complaining about these laws, they technically are geared towards me.
05:12 <desu> yeah its insane
05:21 <desu> need hitler 2.0 to fix this lol
05:25 <Ampera> lol
05:49 <Ampera> Well what is funny is how the atmosphere is starting to mimic the sociopolitical air of 1930's Europe
06:09 <DHess_US> Don't listen to Ampera, he is basically wrong about law enforcement.
06:10 <Ampera> In which far left and far right groups dominated the public sphere, and engaged in the largest culture clash the world has ever seen.
06:18 <Ampera> DHess_US, in what respect
06:48 <DHess_US> Liberals hate police as much as conservatives. Every level of law enforcement has "tactical" teams. Federal police require a "nexus" to get involved.
07:07 <DHess_US> All police may be considered "select militia".
07:14 <DHess_US> At lieast in the US since 1934.
08:01 <DHess_US> That makes them military and not law enforcement. There is no practical difference now except that the military has more strict rules of engagement which do not apply to law enforcement.
08:05 <Ampera> DHess_US, first things was a half joke, I never said they didn't, I just said the state tends to have the bigger guns, and I wasn't aware there were specific federal police, outside of organizations like the FBI and Secret Service, who aren't really police.
08:35 <DHess_US> FBI, SS, US Marshals are exactly that, federal law enforcment.
09:10 <DHess_US> They do exactly the same thing as state and local law enforcement but for federal law where a federal nexus is involved.
09:25 <DHess_US> DEA counts also. BLM also.
09:27 <Ampera> Alright fair enough, but I never said they didn't.
09:36 <DHess_US> IRS also counts.
09:44 <Ampera> ICE?
10:02 <DHess_US> If you want to find out exactly which agencies are "federal police", look up the list for which ones are authorized to carry weapons.
10:11 <DHess_US> Yes, ICE.
10:22 <DHess_US> CMP, BLM, whatever.
10:36 <DHess_US> Even the post office counts.
10:57 <K> what is CMP and BLM?
11:26 <desu> black lives matter
11:42 <Ampera> lol
11:45 <DHess_US> Bureau of Land Management, Customs and Border Patrol.
11:55 <K> hh
11:57 <K> i see
12:26 <DHess_US> Anybody who is authorized to carry a firearm swears an oath and is deputized in some way.
12:42 <DHess_US> They can all make arrests just like the FBI or a local cop.
13:01 <K> even the land management ?
13:03 <DHess_US> Or just shoot your ass and get away with it.
13:06 <DHess_US> Yes
13:07 <K> pfft
13:21 <DHess_US> Federal officers cannot be tried in state courts.
13:43 <DHess_US> If a state tries it, the federal courts remove the case to federal court and dismiss it.
13:50 <DHess_US> Literally
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15:03 <DHess_US> That's how you get cases like Lon Horiuchi who as a sniper was an expert and could hit any target so when he deliberately kills a civilian "accidently", the state charges him, the case is removed to federal court, and then dismissed.
15:26 <DHess_US> I didn't notice any liberals complaining about that so fuck them.
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16:50 <DHess_US> They wanted a police state? Well, they got it.
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18:38 <desu> rip uptime
19:57 <K> big brother
20:28 <DHess_US> 31 Days, 23 Hours, 54 Minutes, 22 Seconds on this XP machine.
20:37 <desu> i had 3 months lol
20:43 <desu> kernel update
20:45 <DHess_US> Sure, but 1 month on XP?
21:28 <DHess_US> And don't both saying something about upgrading. MS dropped hardware support for this system so XP is as good as it gets.
21:48 <desu> you use windows xp?
22:01 <DHess_US> Linux and BSD won't run on it either because the ACPI is wacked.
22:03 <DHess_US> On this box.
22:16 <desu> aren't you worried about no security patches?
22:22 <DHess_US> No, why would I?
22:26 <desu> unno
22:42 <K> ah, wrt to security and exploits
22:43 <DHess_US> It is just a local server running things like uTorrent and XChat.
22:50 <K> did you see that tcp stack crash thing?
22:53 <DHess_US> Exploits from what? It isn't exposed to anything.
23:03 <desu> oh
23:07 <DHess_US> No exposed ports.
23:09 <desu> i thought you where using it as like a main desktop
23:13 <DHess_US> Behidn stateful firewall.
23:14 <Ampera> uTorrent is in and of itself a security exploit.
23:15 <K> https://access.redhat.com/security/vulnerabilities/tcpsack
23:38 <DHess_US> Running old uTorrent and the web access is both disabled and not forwarded anyway.
23:40 <Ampera> Perhaps it's an old version, but you should be aware the thing is basically malware.
23:50 <Ampera> fair enough.
23:51 <K> DHess_US, what is that you torrent, im curious
23:51 <DHess_US> I'm running the last good version.
24:51 <Ampera> 50 different seeds of Ubuntu as far as you're concerned :P
25:04 <DHess_US> Well, let's see. NZ pissed me off so I am torrenting the Christchurch Shooting documentation. And New Jersey pissed me off so I am hosting stuff from Defense Distributed.
25:08 <desu> i miss xp
25:10 <K> ah ok
25:29 <desu> and windows 7 too
25:34 <DHess_US> I have a windows 10 test system. This box will probably end up running Linux if I can get past the wacked ACPI.
25:36 <Ampera> Did you hear someone got like 1-2 years for distributing the christchurch shooting?
25:47 <desu> yes
25:48 <Ampera> What is the box running?
25:50 <DHess_US> Sure, but I'm in the US so New Zealand can kiss my ass.
26:03 <Ampera> Yeah I'm just saying, New Zealand is fucked
26:17 <DHess_US> This is actually Windows XP SP2 because it hosts some applicaitons which don't work on SP3.
26:34 <Ampera> and is permanently on my personal list of countries I will never visit, even if I were paid to.
26:45 <DHess_US> I certainly wouldn't visit them now.
26:46 <Lord_of_nothing> re
26:50 <DHess_US> I might have earlier.
27:09 <DHess_US> Then there was that whole thing with the New Zealand government fucking over their actors.
27:16 <Lord_of_nothing> @@ Ampera nope
27:32 <Ampera> This is along with the nations of India, *stan, any country in the middle east sans Israel, the UK, China, any "communist" nation
27:32 <DHess_US> They are just a bunch of thugs as far as I'm concerned.
27:48 <desu> i would visit the dprk
27:54 <K> which are "communist" nations ?
27:54 <DHess_US> Thugs with a good public relations department.
28:01 <Ampera> I wouldn't even visit South Korea nevermind the north
28:11 <DHess_US> I wouldn't either. Or c
28:14 <DHess_US> Or China.
28:17 <Ampera> Let's see, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, Venezuela
28:22 <Ampera> United Kingdom
28:25 <K> thh
28:36 <desu> Sweden? :p
28:53 <DHess_US> Finnland but not Sweden. Sweden is filled with Things.
29:00 <Ampera> I wouldn't visit any nation that outlawed the concept of homosexuality or transgenderism, just because I happen to be both, so basically all of the islamic nations.
29:10 <Ampera> Although islam tends to be a bit too fine with transgenderism
29:14 <desu> not iran
29:18 <desu> iran makes homos into trannies
29:32 <Ampera> I wouldn't visit iran anyways
29:32 <desu> ye
29:38 <desu> it is weird
29:42 <Ampera> I'd visit any of the nordic nations, even Sweden.
29:46 <Ampera> They aren't too far gone yet.
29:50 <desu> the christians seem to hate trannies
29:58 <DHess_US> Any country that puts up with "no go" zones like Sweden? Forget it.
30:08 <Ampera> No go zones?
30:15 <K> eh? wasn't that a hoax?
30:15 <desu> yeah
30:17 <Lord_of_nothing> germany have a lot fo nogo zones
30:20 <desu> we have those
30:21 <Lord_of_nothing> of
30:25 <desu> but it's basically the same as a ghetto in america
30:27 <DHess_US> Then I wouldn't visit Germany either.
30:32 <desu> skidrow in cali or whatever
30:35 <Lord_of_nothing> there libanse clan are
30:42 <Lord_of_nothing> Germany is a shithole country
30:53 <Lord_of_nothing> a fucking nato country!!!
31:06 <Ampera> Well I'm a German citizen, I'd visit there.
31:16 <Ampera> We have ghettos in the US, that's nothing special to me.
31:33 <desu> you will however be looked at oddly going to those places
31:39 <desu> since you'll most likely be the only white there
31:44 <Ampera> I'm perfectly aware there are entire chunks of cities that, if I were to walk through under and for any circumstances, I would likely not walk out of.
31:52 <Lord_of_nothing> in a us getto you are permitt to have and use a gun....
32:01 <DHess_US> Yup
32:07 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, I'm not exactly /looking/ to get into a gun fight
32:09 <DHess_US> At least I have the right to defend myself.
32:18 <Ampera> just because you can have a gun, doesn't mean it will save your life, it just means it could.
32:24 <Lord_of_nothing> in germany you get arest for hold a knife
32:32 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, citation needed
32:38 <desu> i carry a knife everywhere
32:41 <desu> never gotten arrested
32:43 <DHess_US> Just because you have a fire extinguisher, doesn't mean it will save your lift, it just means it could.
32:52 <desu> it is illegal here
32:52 <Ampera> Germany has alright knife laws as far as I'm concerned, I've carried knives in Germany, it's not been an issue
32:59 <desu> they do not check you though if you don't appear suspecious
33:04 <DHess_US> Just because you wear your seat belt, doens't mean it will safe your life, just means that it could.
33:17 <Lord_of_nothing> the migrants have nothing to loose the cant beproted and jail mean free food
33:19 <Ampera> Last I checked Germany perfectly legalized the carrying of small knives, like swiss army knives
33:19 <Lord_of_nothing> and tv
33:40 <Lord_of_nothing> sure a sissy knife...
34:02 <Ampera> DHess_US, the difference is that you don't need to load, aim, and fire a seatbelt at the car that's not accidentally, but actually trying to kill you.
34:28 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, it's better than upside down syndrome land, Halcyon and I have gone off that you can't even carry a swiss army knife in public
34:44 <Ampera> which I'm sure isn't a law that is enforced much, but they also have the right to search people without warrants too, so what do I know.
35:05 <DHess_US> Ampera, but you have to actually use it.
35:18 <DHess_US> It is not a purely passive device like air bags.
35:32 <Lord_of_nothing> wear this on your belt and you get locked up real quick: https://eu.glock.com/en/products/glock-field-knives
35:42 <Ampera> That doesn't change the fact that the difference between a gun saving your life and not saving your life is your ability and chance of not being shot first.
36:08 <K> why would you want to carry that around?
36:23 <DHess_US> Wrong. Twice I have used my carry firearm in defense and no shots were fired.
36:27 <Lord_of_nothing> to "show" it to your migrant friens...
36:34 <DHess_US> But that doesn't count, does it>?
36:37 <Ampera> In New York, where I live, there is no state law restricting the length of knives, only the style of knives, and even some of those have been deemded unconstitutiuonally vague.
37:05 <DHess_US> No, NYC fully enforced their gravity knife law and the USSC just turned down hearing it.
37:07 <Ampera> DHess_US, a sample size of two in a population of 330 million
37:15 <DHess_US> Yea, because I was the only one?
37:25 <Lord_of_nothing> We have in Austria dedicated "zones" where weapons are banned
37:35 <Lord_of_nothing> does the migrants care about? NO!
37:45 <Lord_of_nothing> Why? No money to pay the fine
37:55 <Lord_of_nothing> Cant deported
37:56 <DHess_US> More than 90% of DGU (defensive gun uses) do not involve a shot being fired, someone being shot, or someone being killed.
38:10 <DHess_US> Lord_of_nothing> We have in Austria dedicated "zones" where weapons are banned
38:17 <Lord_of_nothing> so nothing happen to them when the violate the law...
38:19 <Ampera> DHess_US, I believe you, and that's not my point either
38:23 <DHess_US> We do also, like practically everyplace where we have had a mass shooting.
38:44 <Ampera> My point is that a gun can't fire itself, and if someone is trying to shoot /you/, it's not a garuntee that you won't die
38:49 <DHess_US> Including the recent one in Virginia Beach.
39:12 <Ampera> The insinuation being that, even with a gun, I wouldn't walk down alone at night in the ghetto streets of Chicago.
39:28 <DHess_US> Sure, I wouldn't either by choice.
39:43 <Lord_of_nothing> well the problem here in good old europe legal guns are just a very smal % of all gun violated incidents
40:01 <DHess_US> Even though Cthulhu has my back, https://i.ibb.co/DwLhpgc/G20-Evil.jpg
40:21 <Lord_of_nothing> there is huge % of incidents who police and military personal took there gun
40:25 <Ampera> Either way, as it turns out, Europe is pretty shit at making laws, and they are backfiring in their face
40:27 <Ampera> but you
40:34 <Ampera> 're not allowed to complain, because that's racist
40:36 <Lord_of_nothing> and or the illegal guns from the balkan war.
41:32 <Lord_of_nothing> well the us tried a regime change here in austria because our gov was Russia Friendly
42:28 <Lord_of_nothing> We dont need US Gas and Fuel!!!
46:27 <Lord_of_nothing> Does Ireland have nuclear powerplants?
48:07 <DHess_US> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Ireland
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56:20 <Lord_of_nothing> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_policy_by_country#List
56:24 <Lord_of_nothing> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_policy_by_country#List
56:42 <Lord_of_nothing> another eu country who are not a nato member and have no nuclear powerplant
58:07 <Lord_of_nothing> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO#/media/File:North_Atlantic_Treaty_Organization_(orthographic_projection).svg
59:02 <desu> a swedish man built a nuclear reactor in his kitchen
59:24 <desu> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Handl
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05:01 <Lord_of_nothing> If someone want help me my bills and need a graphic card:
05:03 <Lord_of_nothing> http://www.ebay.at/itm/283510396463?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649
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23:43 <DHess_US> Linus is the best, https://www.realworldtech.com/forum/?threadid=185396&curpostid=185498
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47:53 <DHess_US> I'd buy that shirt, https://i.ibb.co/8zH1Ptq/Savage-MSR10-Precision-PC9-Chassis-TGC-Turns-4-TGC-News-mp4-snapshot-01-12-2019-06-18-11-54-35.jpg
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26:12 <DHess_US> My father has a collection of these, https://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/03files/Nevada_Test_Site_Certificates.html
43:29 <Lord_of_nothing> Now he glow in the dark?
47:00 <DHess_US> Oddly enough ...
47:16 <DHess_US> He had a tarp we used to sleep on when camping which was used to collect fallout.
47:35 <Lord_of_nothing> but wait now you are genetic defects born
48:10 <Lord_of_nothing> born with...
50:12 <DHess_US> This is news?
50:45 <DHess_US> A german with mutant super powers. It is difficult to imagine such a thing.
59:06 <Lord_of_nothing> Merkel
59:41 <Ampera> Merkel is just a mutant, nothing super about her.
00:00 <Lord_of_nothing> super stupid
00:11 <Lord_of_nothing> super ignorant
00:16 <Lord_of_nothing> super destructive
00:31 <Ampera> m9 we don't need to hear your life story
05:49 <Lord_of_nothing> sometimes some c4 would be handy...
05:50 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQOScWiIQ60
32:45 <Lord_of_nothing> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQYsBPxo8po
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53:33 <desu> did you see that merkel video
53:40 <desu> was pretty spooky
54:07 <desu> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URUqqNdGXNo
54:21 <desu> the lizard can't handle the sun
54:51 <Lord_of_nothing> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HKhI23rMdk0/maxresdefault.jpg
56:18 <Lord_of_nothing> today i got this https://eu.glock.com/en/products/glock-entrenching-tools
56:47 <Lord_of_nothing> when the german try to invade us again
56:56 <Lord_of_nothing> or the americans
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03:57 <DHess_US> Ireland not only lacks nuclear power, they also lack a flag.
04:27 <DHess_US> For the record, I have a Glock entrenching tool.
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08:21 <Lord_of_nothing> made in austria *gg*
09:37 <DHess_US> Yup
09:47 <DHess_US> But a manufacturer of home appliances.
09:57 <DHess_US> Err, By a manufacturer of home appliances.
09:57 <Lord_of_nothing> glock?
10:03 <DHess_US> Yp
10:04 <DHess_US> Yup
12:18 <Lord_of_nothing> tomorrow i must go to the airport
14:00 <DHess_US> I have never had a good time at an airport except when I was flying.
14:07 <DHess_US> I mean when I got to fly the plane.
14:47 <Lord_of_nothing> i have to visit the dentist
16:01 <DHess_US> At the airport?
16:11 <Lord_of_nothing> yes there is a dentist
16:12 <DHess_US> That would doubly suck.
16:18 <Lord_of_nothing> why?
16:34 <DHess_US> "I have to go visit the dentist, at the airport." "Kill yourself now."
16:40 <Lord_of_nothing> its the most relaxing place at the airport
17:16 <DHess_US> If you did that here, the security people would arrest you as you leave for having cleaner teeth than when you entered.
17:52 <Lord_of_nothing> if i do what?
20:19 <DHess_US> If you visited a dentist at a US airmport.
20:49 <Lord_of_nothing> i would never vistit any doc in the us
26:01 <Ampera> I would never visit a doc in Austria. They'd arrest me for being white.
30:38 <Lord_of_nothing> sure if you are refuse to get treadet well
31:49 <Ampera> what?
32:33 <DHess_US> You're white? How long have you been concealing this?
34:14 <Ampera> DHess_US, for as long as I've been concealing my sexuality.
35:29 <DHess_US> You monster!
36:22 * Ampera burns himself on a cross
51:50 <Lord_of_nothing> white people must hate there self sure...
53:31 <coppice_> I wonder how they make heated windscreens? I assume the hundreds of fine zig zag wires are actually in the plastic layer between the sheets of glass, but how can they keep such fine wires perfectly aligned as they assemble to the whole thing?
57:39 <DHess_US> Most heated windscreens use a printed thick film conductor.
58:20 <coppice_> rear screens do that, but its to obtrusive for a windscreen
58:41 <DHess_US> Ifyou cannot see the wires, then I suspect they use indium tin oxide.
58:58 <coppice_> in the 70s I had a car with a fine wire heater at the back, yet that never became mainstream
59:08 <DHess_US> Although there are some transparent conductive polymers that might work also.
59:17 <coppice_> you can see the wires, but only when you catch them just right in the light
59:24 <DHess_US> As I recall, the wire heaters had problems with breaking.
00:29 <DHess_US> Yea, ITO is used for windscreen defrosting.
03:06 <DHess_US> I've had problems with year with my car defroster. It works fine inside but now I get frost on the outside of the windows.
15:04 <coppice_> I think they only use ITO for the windscreens with a heated strip across the bottom, which gets frozen wipers to free up quickly
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26:31 <Ampera> I just fixed a toilet.
27:01 <Ampera> My aunt who I'm staying with complained it was rocking back and forth, so I look at the bolts. They're like 1/8th inch bolts and wing nuts
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36:43 <Ampera> hi ThunderSqueak
37:38 <ThunderSqueak> hi, just got done assembling a new office chair
37:43 <ThunderSqueak> that thing is heavy :/
38:16 <Ampera> My dad just got me a new office chair
38:20 <Ampera> there's only one slight problem with it
39:14 <Ampera> it's 120 miles away
39:36 <ThunderSqueak> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573181989537185792/590734407615119360/image1.jpg
39:43 <ThunderSqueak> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/573181989537185792/590734408651374622/image0.jpg
40:05 <ThunderSqueak> wish it was a different color, but all the specs and features were what I was looking for
40:14 <Ampera> Yeah interesting colour choice.
41:04 <ThunderSqueak> yeah... it really does not match my cherry wood desk
41:18 <Ampera> looks tactical at least, might be good if you go hunting
41:22 <ThunderSqueak> lol
41:41 <ThunderSqueak> it is comfy, is tall enough for my long legs
41:46 <ThunderSqueak> and the arms flip up
42:01 <Ampera> I'm starting to get sick of my own mind.
42:27 <Ampera> I wish it worked right
42:49 <ThunderSqueak> what do you mean?
43:08 <Ampera> and I have no way to ease that pain, except via trying to help myself in a way by venting on IRC :P
44:01 <Ampera> You know my problems, at least the premise. It's likely a story you might have known yourself, yet as I reach closer to such a critical apex, I am unsure on my ability to keep together
44:08 <Ampera> not that I have any means to fall apart with
44:13 <ThunderSqueak> I might invest in a seat cover for it :P
44:24 <Ampera> lol
44:36 <ThunderSqueak> hmm
44:50 <Ampera> idk why I go on about it in here, I guess I just have few people to talk about it to
44:58 <Ampera> and IRC is ever so slightly more responsibe than nano
45:07 <Ampera> *responsive
46:08 <ThunderSqueak> true
46:18 <ThunderSqueak> well, you are going on a journey :D
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47:24 <Ampera> I've been on a journey, it's just that I'm getting on the highway now :/
48:31 * ThunderSqueak revs her engine.
48:35 <ThunderSqueak> vroom vroom
48:52 <Ampera> Still, I am incredibly weary. I just want it to end
49:08 <Ampera> I want my pain to end
49:45 <ThunderSqueak> hmm, it should
49:47 <ThunderSqueak> ^^
50:48 <Ampera> I know it won't, not for a great while.
50:58 <Ampera> yet the only way out is through, and through strongly
51:10 <ThunderSqueak> yep
53:08 <Ampera> :/
55:20 <ThunderSqueak> you can do it :D
56:10 <Ampera> In a way I wish I couldn't. I feel as if I hang onto the purpose of life ever so precariously, only held firm by my own determination to stop feeling so poor.
56:23 <Ampera> I don't know what drives me to keep going anymore.
56:49 <ThunderSqueak> hmm why not just be yourself and enjoy life ?
57:04 <ThunderSqueak> I mean isn't that the point?
57:21 <T3sl4> ThunderSqueak: those two things are mutually exclusive tho
57:32 <Ampera> It doesn't work like that. People tell themselves it does, maybe for some it's even that simple, but not for me.
57:49 <ThunderSqueak> T3sl4, depends on the situation
57:56 <Ampera> There are multiple types of gender dysphoria, but they all sing together in some sort of ugly chorus
58:17 <Ampera> It's impossible to understand a single person from terminology alone.
58:26 <Ampera> Standby, switching clients, my bandwidth is taking a shit.
58:27 <ThunderSqueak> I just got an image of singing pacman frogs <.<
58:28 <T3sl4> for Ampera i mean :P
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59:49 <Ampera> I'm back. Using WeeChat now, for whatever reason I don't have enough throughput to make Xpra happy
00:40 <Ampera> My issue is not like I'm unable to be myself, simply because I am myself no matter what, I've always been.
00:49 <Ampera> It's deeper, more confusing than that.
01:49 <ThunderSqueak> those are things, unfortunately you will need to work out yourself... a therapist can help, but all they do is listen and ultimately you will still need to do it all yourself :/
02:21 <Ampera> Therapists do not help. I can at least now say I've tried.
02:45 <Ampera> They are too steeped in their own worthless professionalism and ideologicalism to help me. All they want is my money.
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02:58 <ThunderSqueak> *nod* hence my statement... they *can* help.. but they dont do it for you
03:16 <Ampera> There is no help for me, there is only coping with the pain.
03:59 <ThunderSqueak> it will get better
03:59 <Ampera> I've been doing that for so long, and to think that there is so much longer to go until it truly can help me
04:05 <ThunderSqueak> ^^
04:11 <ThunderSqueak> are you on a blocker?
04:23 <Ampera> Nope, I refused them outright when I was younger.
04:27 <Ampera> A decision I stand by.
04:57 <Ampera> I think blockers without HRT, and especially at younger ages is unethical to an immense degree.
05:19 <ThunderSqueak> hmm
05:27 <Ampera> I'm barely able to cope with the variables as I stand today, I would definitely not have given that sort of gun to my younger self.
06:10 <Ampera> Blockers are permanent, and they are dangerous to pre-pubescent males.
06:24 <ThunderSqueak> that depends how sure you are
06:55 <Ampera> I've learned to understand sure as a gradient. To most, sure is a case of knowing something will happen, but to me, it's the state of being left with seemingly no alternative.
07:19 <Ampera> In every single possible way, it feels like suicide with an afterlife.
07:43 <Ampera> I kill myself to gain a more ideal plane of existence, with the only difference being it being the same one I'm on now
07:47 <Ampera> just from a different perspective
08:40 <Ampera> I know, to use this analogy, it's not a clean death either. It's not instant. It's long and drawn out, to make me have to suffer with it as long as possible.
09:11 <Ampera> In a way, physical pain, at least as I understand it in my limited capacity, seems like a vacation. Not that it's one I intend to go on.
12:10 <Ampera> I suppose there is not much anyone tell me to help me. I keep thinking there is for some reason, that at least the concept of conversation will help me somehow rationalize this topic I know I will likely never be able to.
12:37 <Ampera> That's why I keep doing this, that's why I keep making a fucking sad fuck out of myself in this channel
14:56 <ThunderSqueak> venting is ok
15:12 <ThunderSqueak> just try to move forward always and not get stuck in a loop of depression
15:16 <Ampera> I do it too often, and I don't want to vent, I want to debate, talk, engage the problem, not simply lay it out.
15:44 <Ampera> That's all I can do, but it's a wound cauterized by fire.
15:47 <ThunderSqueak> well, it is a very personal problem and no one else has experienced your life and perspective
15:50 * T3sl4 offers a hug to anyone who needs one
16:17 <Ampera> I can feel the essense of perfect sense just so close away, but it's always out of reach.
16:18 <ThunderSqueak> we all only have our own perspective to go on.... I used to run a LGBTI support group, I did it for 16 years
16:56 <ThunderSqueak> I have seen many people vent ... and some who keep moving forward.. and some who if I could still go back to said group (it is defunct now) would still be there, just stuck in the mud...
17:11 <Ampera> I make sense of the world, even my own, through cynycism. Being able to grasp the logic of the situation, and squeeze the truth out of it, yet I just can't do it here.
17:33 <Ampera> No, it's not even that, I think I might even understand who I am and what I need, but it just doesn't stop the pain.
17:38 <ThunderSqueak> it saddened me when I went back once after not being there 4 years... and the same people were still spinning their wheels with no progress on life, feeding off each others sorrows
18:09 <Ampera> That's somewhat why I always kept away from LGBT groups.
18:35 <ThunderSqueak> I did make friends there .. some of whome I still talk too now
18:43 <Ampera> I personally dislike the concept of the LGBT community in general, for a whole load of reasons, but even taking it as its elements, I can't help myself on the backs of people who cannot help themselves.
18:55 <Ampera> I would also be kicked out of every LGBT group I join.
19:10 <ThunderSqueak> I think you are lumping everyone into the spin their wheels catagory
19:30 <ThunderSqueak> the vast majority eventually gain traction
19:40 <T3sl4> Ampera, you haven't kicked yourself out of #eevblog yet
19:47 <Ampera> In a sea of generalizations, the sailor who has complained about the waves, added a drop to the sea.
19:54 <ThunderSqueak> is this a lgbt group ? :P
20:13 <Ampera> No, this is an EE channel that I happen to hijack to be about my own bullshit far too often
20:53 <ThunderSqueak> seriously though, a group like that can be an outlet to vent in, and maybe talk to those who have walked the path before
21:04 <T3sl4> it's a number of things, but you're stretching it far more by calling it an EE group, than I did implying it's a support group ;)
21:04 <Ampera> I think that's what aids in my pain. Just because of who I am, and how cynical I've always been about this issue, I know that it would be very hard for me to keep a group.
21:07 <ThunderSqueak> that is the point of it, it is to help not make the same mistakes
21:24 <Ampera> T3sl4: it has EE in the name :P
21:38 <ThunderSqueak> EE support :D
21:49 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/Etfixcd.jpg
21:59 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak: I hate everything about LGBTism, and the collective group mentality as it sits.
22:42 <Ampera> and if I were to place myself into a position of unloading, I know not only would I hurt others with what I have to say, even if it was just my own volitions, I would very quickly not be welcome in most LGBT groups.
23:20 <Ampera> The politics, the atmosphere, even if I generalize, there are only so many groups to my disposal, I just would not fit that.
23:44 <Ampera> I mean even the term LGBT, and all of its variations pisses me off immensely, just because of what it stands for.
23:49 * ThunderSqueak stands on a soap box... hello, I am an Engineer ... it has been 12 minutes since I tinkered with something and 3 hours since I did a design... I tried to stop, but it interferes with my sleep... keeping me awake at all hours... yesterday someone asked what I do for a living, I told them I "work in computers"... they saw me draw a schematic and the next day the babtist missionaries were at my door, asking me if I practiced 
23:49 * ThunderSqueak witchcraft....
24:07 <Ampera> lol
24:28 * T3sl4 dismantles ThunderSqueak's soapbox into its components while it was in use
24:54 * ThunderSqueak falls onto the floor, sees the parts... and builds a pinewood derby car.
25:49 <Ampera> I feel like this is the longest cold I've ever had. I've been waiting so long for the smyptoms to end, and as I near closer to doing something about them, just to spite me, they are the strongest they've ever been.
26:37 <ThunderSqueak> how old are you ampera, if I might ask?
27:23 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak I'd be interested in hearing a guess
27:29 <ThunderSqueak> 28
27:36 <Ampera> 17
27:55 <Ampera> but 28 makes me feel better in a way
28:08 <ThunderSqueak> that is a good age to figure things out about the body
28:22 <ThunderSqueak> tbh, most 28 year olds havnt got a clue :P
28:22 <Ampera> It is, as I understand it, /the/ age to do so.
28:43 <Ampera> Yeah, but at least it helps affirm my hope that I am mature enough to know what I'm doing.
28:56 <Ampera> Not that 28 is the wisest, age, but it's 11 years wiser than I should be
31:00 <Ampera> I'm about to enter college in september, and as you likely know, college is a time of immense stress for anyone
31:17 <ThunderSqueak> hmm the first couple years are not
31:23 <Ampera> but these next four years will be the hardest of my life, and I only want the pain to end.
31:24 <ThunderSqueak> last 2... stress happens
32:40 <Ampera> I will be in public so much more, I will be exposing myself so much, behind a weak shield of the mask of the identity I wish to assume
33:03 <ThunderSqueak> everyone has a mask
33:05 <Ampera> and for so long will I not fool a soul, and have to hope on the good nature of those I interact with to not mind my overt suffering
33:26 <Ampera> when I get emotional I make analogies, most of them which make sense only to me
33:52 <ThunderSqueak> when I get angry, I cry... <.<;;
34:01 <ThunderSqueak> when I get sad, I don't cry
34:28 <Ampera> At the moment, I rarely cry.
34:45 <ThunderSqueak> ah, I always have... even when I was little
34:57 <Ampera> Sometimes it's as if I can no longer feel, as if my pain is so thick, it drowns out any and all other sensations.
35:04 <ThunderSqueak> though, lately my mood has been very stable
39:56 <Ampera> I just wish I could see myself in 10 years, that whoever I end up being could tell me that I end up alright
40:01 <Ampera> and that I will come out good in the end
40:20 <Ampera> that I will one day hold everything I ever truly wanted
44:38 <Ampera> EEVBlog time
44:38 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 13:52 Sydney time.
45:33 <Ampera> thanks EEVBlog
45:55 <ThunderSqueak> Ampera, well, I wish you luck in finding happiness ^^
47:15 <Ampera> ThunderSqueak: I wish I could subsist on luck alone, but I need to keep running.
48:50 <ThunderSqueak> yes, but in my 41 years on this planet... I have learned that luck plays a huge role... but even more then that, taking advantage of said luck.
49:13 <ThunderSqueak> luck being the random happenstance that you did not directly influence
50:08 <Ampera> Luck didn't make someone get up in the morning
50:26 <Ampera> it simply ensured that they were able to do it again the next morning
51:03 <ThunderSqueak> what I am saying is, luck is not some specific supernatural force... it is just a word I use to describe random chance
51:31 <Ampera> I know what you're saying
51:40 <Ampera> I'm just saying I wish it helped :/
52:19 <Ampera> happy tomorrow from the east coast
52:28 <ThunderSqueak> anyway, good luck is just taking advantage of a random convergence ... though you could by this definition "make your own luck" by helping create this convergence
52:35 <ThunderSqueak> oooh
53:09 <ThunderSqueak> hello tomorrow :D
57:09 <ThunderSqueak> hmm, I should have a snack, at 900 calories for the day
57:59 * T3sl4 offers ThunderSqueak a bratwurst in these trying times
58:38 <ThunderSqueak> hmm I do have corndogs
33:13 <ThunderSqueak> sugar snap peas are awesome
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11:03 <Halcyon> Mew
11:14 <ThunderSqueak> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329483988500611086/590800235912101888/64788113_2818526664855314_1608702222877589504_n.png?width=452&height=676
11:19 <ThunderSqueak> hi Halcyon
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11:37 <Halcyon> Hey ThunderSqueak
11:37 <steve30> hi
11:39 <Halcyon> What's doing?
11:44 <Halcyon> Steve :D
11:49 <ThunderSqueak> aobut ready to head to bed
12:11 <Halcyon> I'll be back shortly, just walked in the door, going to have a quick shower and get changed
16:37 <steve30> i think i'll go back to bed
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26:47 <Halcyon> Goodnight Steve
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23:58 <coppice_> yeah, there's definitely a market for pictures like that. I'm not sure the appeal would remain if Dave were the model.
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53:46 <Danol_> Hello
53:48 <Danol_> Better
53:55 <Danol_> So, funny thing
54:16 <Danol_> We have this law in my country that you have to pay for TV broadcast if you own a working TV receiver
54:28 <Danol_> I have a TV, but I use it solely for Netflix
54:59 <Danol_> So... what would you suggest as an easiest way how to "break" the TV?
55:07 <Danol_> (So it works as a monitor but not as a TV)
55:18 <Halcyon> You're in the UK I guess?
55:25 <Danol_> Czech Republic
55:25 <Halcyon> Is that still a think in this day and age?
55:33 <Halcyon> AH
55:33 <Danol_> Yep :/
55:42 <Halcyon> Remove the tuner?
55:54 <Danol_> Well yes?
55:55 <Halcyon> Sometimes they are just wired in
56:20 <Danol_> I've been in this TV once, it has three boards: motherboard, power source and T-Con
56:34 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
56:53 <Danol_> >> Samsung LE37B650T2W
57:11 <Danol_> https://spares2repair.co.uk/samsung-le37b650t2w-main-av-bn41-01167c-mp1.1-bn94-03167n-chelsea-arsenal-euro-1.2t
57:18 <Danol_> This is how the main board looks like
57:20 <Danol_> Oh
57:30 <Danol_> So if I just desolder the tuner thingy, it should be ok?
57:34 <Danol_> won't it break the TV?
57:38 <Halcyon> Hi Steve, you're up :-)
57:54 <Halcyon> Could you not just bend the antenna connector a little and say an antenna doesn't fit?
58:04 <Danol_> Weeel dunno
58:14 <steve30> Danol_, I'd assume it would be fine as a monitor, but just wouldn't work as a TV
58:15 <Danol_> I guess they could argue it is fixably
58:17 <Danol_> hmm
58:34 <Danol_> Maybe I could just grind the connector?
59:15 <Halcyon> Put superglue in it?
59:53 <Danol_> I'm not sure that would be enough to the law
59:56 <Halcyon> How would they know anyway? Do they do random inspections?
00:23 <Danol_> I honestly don't know
00:28 <Halcyon> So why worry?
00:37 <Danol_> I'm also self-employed, so there is a slightly higher chance
01:05 <Danol_> they have a list of people who pay for electricity though and they cross-check it against the TV payers
01:44 <Danol_> >> If you remove the tuner, some TVs refuse to work completely when communication with the tuner fails during power on test.
02:13 <steve30> maybe just take the antenna plug off
03:01 <Halcyon> I've never understood the TV licence thing
03:17 <Halcyon> I mean in AU, television is shit anyway
03:20 <Halcyon> It's mostly garbage
03:29 <Halcyon> I haven't watched TV in about 15 years
03:45 <steve30> Halcyon, here in England, you just have to have a license if you watch it as its being broadcast. You don't need a license to own the equipment.
04:19 <Halcyon> Does recording and time-shifting count as being "watched"
04:39 <Danol_> Well
04:43 <Danol_> they have to make money somehow
04:48 <steve30> Recording it does. Watching back the recording later doesn't.
05:08 <Halcyon> We have national broadcaster's here. Taxes pay for it. The rest are privately owned, they make money through ads and commercial agreements
05:13 <steve30> This is an excellent website: http://bbctvlicence.com/
05:39 <Halcyon> Terrestrial TV for all intents and purposes is completely free
07:17 * steve30 ponders going for a hair cut later today
09:29 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Not sure which expression you want to convey in your multimeter ad? No worries! https://t.co/40JU6hDVor
10:16 <steve30> hehe
12:30 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: After a really shit troubleshooting session... https://t.co/dIQfBilsKG
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15:01 <Lord_of_nothing> Hi
16:29 <steve30> i need another coffee
18:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the air measures... https://t.co/FIx1KGnI6x
18:51 <steve30> Halcyon, I posted the letter to the council yesterday
24:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: No worries, I found the fault! https://t.co/DDFL7dNbu3
27:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I recommend this crap non-branded multimeter. Hardhat approved for extreme environments! https://t.co/A9Pv39OjWT
28:17 <steve30> maybe Dave should do a video in a hard hat next time he's testing something
29:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Yes, I can tweet this crap all night long. My internet is back and I ain't afraid to use it... https://t.co/iFNC8QZWQh
33:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I have discovered an entire "disoriented multimeter" genre! https://t.co/oDFSYZTPOP
35:42 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Someone make it STOP! https://t.co/bAY3HXbEuP
37:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the glass measures... https://t.co/AzE8sSNVXg
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44:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The Multimeter Male Patriarchy series https://t.co/58JJysNp0S
48:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Valuable multimeter tips! https://t.co/jDojVijCr1
54:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I discovered "Young attractive female electronic engineer" is actually a stock image search term. https://t.co/4qA1QkUns3
58:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: "Silly Engineer" stock images are a thing https://t.co/HWxTcCoDVO
59:08 <K> hello
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14:49 <coppice_> is "old ugly female electronic engineer" a stock image search term
18:56 <steve30> doubt it, that probably wouldn't encourage young girls to take up engineering
21:10 <desu> women need to stay in the kitchen
21:37 <coppice_> steve30: it wouldn't be nearly as offputting as the feminist lobby already is
28:04 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Apollo 11 in real time, this is totally awesome! https://t.co/KpsWBk3jfB
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