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01:00 <Steven> wish my head would stop hurting... i blame........
01:05 <Steven> ziria...
07:20 <Falang> hooooome.. just in time to catch the start of that thunderstorm and get wet
07:59 * Falang opens up a new account with ebay... "Snake Belts"..
09:17 <Falang> snake HEADBANDS?!
09:22 <Falang> that's even better..
09:25 <Falang> gonna make a fortune
09:29 <N2H4> Yeah. For the snakes that play Basketball.
09:32 <N2H4> Nike makes em.
09:45 <Mekkis>  "You carry around a device the size of a deck of cards with the power of a Cray supercomputer, and you use it as a /phone/?"
10:13 <Falang> so.. raining.. in thailand. I'm gonna probably lose internet. :,(
14:07 <Steven> that sucks man
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23:33 <Ashar> holy crap. this pathfinder stuff is expensive on their site
23:36 Ashar is now known as Falang
23:54 <Falang> $8.99 for a 2 page pdf
24:41 <Steven> what pdf?
24:50 <Falang> huh. so far so good. didn't rage as hard as it's bluster indicated. steady downpour.. I might make it through this!
24:55 <Falang> these flip-mats
25:09 <Falang> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8oty?GameMastery-FlipMat-Arena for example
25:27 <Falang> that's a massive ripoff. I mean come on.
25:42 <Steven> its a flip mat...
25:53 <Falang> it's a pdf.
26:23 <Falang> you wanna sell an actual mat, that's fine, that's $12.99, the pdf is almost as expensive.. and some of them are only sold as pdfs.
26:56 <andrey> are we going ahead with the game next morning
26:57 <andrey> ?
27:15 <Steven> god how perfect would it be if it went down right now
30:25 <Steven> just the universe bitch slapping your optimisim 
31:04 <Steven> im.... thirsty think im going to get me some ice tea... Anyone want to play anything when I get back?
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35:10 <Falang> Uhh.. I might just be up for that..
35:19 <Falang> other than lunch, don't think I got jack going on the rest of the day
36:00 <Falang> need to get back into leveling up, I never did finish that, but afterwards, Ashar is up for a game..
37:30 <Mekkis> N2H4, the armour attaches at the head
37:39 <Mekkis> attaches to the fangs
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42:36 <Steven> ugh... this migaine is migrating into my right eye
42:52 <Steven> tonight is going to suck!
44:09 <Mekkis> If you're arguing that sloppily written material is invalid, half the entire PF line is right down the toilet.
53:19 <Steven> i think im going to order some taquidoes for dinner, ir eally dont feel like cooking
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58:02 <Steven> time to find something to watch
03:47 <Falang> taquitos?
03:51 <Falang> frozen?
03:59 <Falang> oh
04:00 <Falang> ordre
04:23 <Falang> I used to gobble down these frozen taquitos all the time back in the US, so yummy. microwave for a min, poof!
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12:08 <miseria> "soy el poder, si me ofendes te castigo con todo el rigor, si te ofendo, calla o te declaro traidor a la patria" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
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23:21 <Proquar> mekkis?
23:27 <Mekkis> dot
23:40 <Brunius_> ding
23:55 <Proquar> explain to me please how to get a level 5 char for tomorrow?
24:03 <Brunius_> superglue
24:07 <Mekkis> you take a 7th level pregen
24:08 <Mekkis> and play it
24:22 <Mekkis> then, when your character hits 5th level, you apply the chronicle sheet
24:36 <Proquar> now i'm confused
24:48 <Mekkis> if Avatar sent you the pregens from the NPC codex, you choose one of them
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31:46 <Steven> OR play 4 modules between now and tomorrow
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33:38 <Mekkis> See? Steven's offered to GM them!
34:13 <Falang> hah
35:45 <Proquar> yay steven!
36:17 <Proquar> avatar sent me the codex... which seems to have a whole lot of NPC, and you think i can just chose one of those?
36:20 * Proquar blinks
36:37 <Mekkis> I don't know what Avatar sent you
36:49 <Steven> i totaly didnt hear that you guys are sharing PDFs...
37:12 <Mekkis> The 1st and 7th level iconic characters found on pages 274-297 may be used in place of the downloadable pregenerated characters found on Paizo.com. 
38:02 <Mekkis> I think that answers your question
38:56 <Mekkis> Steven, my VC gave me the impression that those pages could be printed and used by new players
38:59 <Mekkis>  g
39:45 <Falang> pages 274 of what?
39:54 <Mekkis> NPC codex
40:09 <Falang> lets see here...
40:33 <Falang> Oh, nice.
40:37 <Falang> much better..
40:39 <Mekkis> At the very least, if someone's playing an iconic out of the NPC codex, I'll need to, you know, SEE the character sheet, which implies distribution
40:58 <Falang> I very well may, after I poke through them.
41:09 <Falang> any idea what the class distribution is like so far?
41:36 <Proquar> so, i can play a level 7 pregen, but can't generate one...
41:40 * Proquar ponders the situation
41:47 <Mekkis> no, but I do know that last time I ran it, Ezren and Kyra died :)
43:07 <Proquar> have to run... we'll see how we go
46:20 <Falang> well I might just be that wizard, he looks okay..
46:52 <Mekkis> last time I ran it, I killed him
48:08 <Falang> so?  That has nothing to do with me.
49:42 <Falang> feeling like a spellcaster.. so wiz/sorc/druid.. druid looks so adorable!
15:19 <Steven> makin a dwarf!
15:27 <Mekkis> dwarf rogue?
16:15 <Steven> dwarf sorc!
16:25 <Mekkis> :(
16:39 <Steven> okay okay.... Dwarf Rogue Sorc!
50:43 <Steven> just got done watching The Mist...
55:14 <Steven> pretty awesome movie
59:52 <Steven> so.... what to watch now
07:53 <Avatar> yo
08:33 <Avatar> Steven: sharing PDFs is the only thing that got me into pathfinder and buying books
12:56 <Steven> you dont say such things infront of a VL whos supposed to report such activities to paizo.
13:29 <Avatar> report it
13:38 <Brunius> What are they gonna do, really
13:51 <Brunius> Confiscate all his chronicle sheets?
15:11 <Steven> PDFs are for personal use only.  Please dont share them.
15:45 <Ulzef> hey guys and gals
16:28 <Brunius> I don't share pdfs. I don't solicit sharing of pdfs. But honestly, what effect do you think your effecting that Avatar has, in the past, shared pdfs, will have?
19:30 <Steven> if a person shares pdfs, that means one less pdf paizo has sold. which means they arent making money.  Paizo knows it happens and its supposed to be discouraged.
20:33 <Ulzef> its not always one less sold because he needs a water marked copy for him to use it himself i am more likly to buy a book if i have looked at it and know there is something for me in it
20:46 <Ulzef> mekkis btw you are awesome 
21:17 <Ulzef> and today was a awesome day for mail i got the letter from you and my goblin plushy all in the one day. 
28:37 <Avatar> Steven: it's not like I'm begrudgingly holding it against you when I say report me 
28:57 <Avatar> I mean do it, tell them that's what made my buy pathfinder, and they can take whatever action they want 
29:32 <Avatar> if they want to sue me because I played with their pirated material, fine - but that's shoddy marketing
29:39 <Avatar> and I can't see them swinging that way
30:20 <Avatar> they wouldn't be making money off me if I wasn't sharing, and I'm not the only one
33:11 <Brunius> If Avatar had never sent me the pathfinder core rulebook, I wouldn't own the CRB now, I wouldn't own UC, the APG, UM, PFS Field Guide, Adventurer's Armoury.
33:46 <Brunius> Yes, there are those that will exploit the system. But you can't avoid that. Even print-only companies end up getting pdfs of their stuff distributed
33:54 <Avatar> brunius would still own UM though
34:04 * Avatar crys
34:05 <Brunius> I would never have got into PFS
34:07 <Brunius> :P
39:52 <Avatar> ulzef: what is this about a letter
47:19 <Avatar> hey we have a game tomorrow
47:39 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 25th 1pm (tier 5-9,Mekkis) / Sat 27th 10am (tier 1-5,Avatar) | WotW: Sat 4th 1pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
47:39 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Apr 21 22:47:29 2013
47:39 <***> Buffer Playback...
47:40 <***> Playback Complete.
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49:45 <Ulzef> sent me a boon from when we traded at last con opened the letter box and there was a letter for Ulzef the Efficient from the spirit of freedom
49:55 <Proquar> what's a VL?
49:57 <Avatar> ha
50:07 <Avatar> venture lieutenant
50:19 <Proquar> oh dear
50:21 <Avatar> PFS has a sort of hierarchy of leadership
50:47 <Avatar> there's GMs, then VLs, then VC's (venture captains) then paizo people
50:54 <Avatar> steven is a VL in washington
52:11 <Proquar> ok
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41:07 <Mekkis> is it bad that I'm using the same event for all my online stuff?
41:29 <Steven> yup
41:53 <Mekkis> don't you use 20068 for everything you do on here?
42:25 <Steven> nope
45:48 <Avatar> why is it bad
46:54 <Steven> inacurate number of events
47:33 <Avatar> but that is sort of like 'friends' on facebook
47:44 <Avatar> they aren't necessarily friends, it's just whose feed you read and vice versa
47:48 <Avatar> it's a term for lack of a better one
48:55 <Steven> okay... mike goes into the tech support guys and says hey im doing a report for lisa on the growth of PFS to get more money for PFS.
49:10 <Steven> I need all the figures for games within the last year.
49:29 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure mike knows about this kind of thing going on
49:48 <Avatar> if he went asking for that - unlikely - he'd want to expect inaccurate results
50:24 <Steven> if somebody uses 1 event code per 5-10 games, it doesnt record which day those games were played on, so you have one day where somebody aparantly GMed 5-10 games and then nothing for 3 months.
51:20 <Steven> even though they might be playing every other week.
51:29 <Steven> it complicates the data.
51:57 <Brunius> Hmm
52:03 <Brunius> What are you arging about?
52:46 <Steven> arent arguing.
52:59 <Brunius> what are you discussing in a seemingly heated fashion?
00:13 <Steven> yay all done
01:43 <Avatar> we're arguing about you brunius
01:49 <Avatar> again
02:01 <Steven> I spared you from getting banned
02:56 <Brunius> seems legit
03:18 <Avatar> yeah steven was about to ban you
03:28 <Avatar> I said no no dont do it steven
03:32 <Avatar> and we had an argument for a while
03:43 <Avatar> and then you were spared
04:03 <Steven> yup
04:11 <Steven> exacty how it happened
07:23 <Avatar> some joker on the forums said he had an amulet of iomedae that gives +2 AC vs evil
07:30 <Avatar> does anyone know what that is
08:23 <Falang> oh yeah that thing.
08:34 <Falang> It gives a +2 AC vs. Evil.
08:51 <Falang> *nod*
09:10 <Avatar> link to it
10:16 <Falang> sorry, too busy for that. I have faith in you finding it.
10:51 <Falang> not just faith, CONFIDENCE.  You can do it.
11:31 <Steven> Im far to lazy to go search for myself
20:35 <Falang> well I'm far too full of shit to even know where to look for it. ;)
42:41 <Brunius> Brief search doesn't find it
42:52 <Brunius> Perhaps a scenario specific item?
05:13 <Avatar> no such thing
05:16 <Avatar> it is a fake
05:33 <Avatar> cmon, amulet of iomedae
05:42 <Avatar> it even sounds fake
12:43 <Steven> i wouldnt be surprised if it were real
14:44 <Avatar> no problem, find it
14:55 <Steven> why would i?
15:05 <Avatar> you said it was real
15:12 <Steven> thats not what i said
15:42 <Avatar> you cant' just say something and then mean something else
16:24 <Steven> im practicing to be a politition
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52:15 <Steven> suuuuuuuup
00:53 <Wrothmonk> Hello
19:19 <Steven> i just realized i have played everwar part 4... balls
21:45 <Steven> so who wants to play a 7-11 game? lol
33:00 <Falang> Sounds legit.
36:14 <Avatar> I'm playing everwar 4 in a few weeks
39:28 <Steven> cool
39:35 <Steven> i hope you like <redacted>
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56:15 <Proquar> ahem
59:52 <Proquar> too early
01:56 <Wrothmonk> nobody... move...
09:30 <Mekkis> !search iomedae
09:33 <diebot> Mekkis, Wardstone,Thorncrown Of Iomedae
09:41 <Mekkis> !item Wardstone
09:43 <diebot> Mekkis, WARDSTONE [strong abjuration] CL:20 none 0gp, 2500lb
09:43 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/wardstone.html
09:54 <Mekkis> !item Thorncrown Of Iomedae
09:56 <diebot> Mekkis, THORNCROWN OF IOMEDAE [overwhelming conjuration and evocation] CL:21 head 0gp, 1lb
09:56 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/thorncrown_of_iomedae.html
10:00 <Mekkis> yay
10:01 <Avatar> zzzz
10:04 <Mekkis> two artefacts
20:55 <Proquar> Do you guys ever sleep?  :p
21:06 <Proquar> um.. what is the difference between the codex and the core rules?
25:44 <Wrothmonk> codex?
25:45 <Falang> are there any map.. how do I put this.. bits? deconstructed maps? 
26:10 <Mekkis> ?
26:17 <Wrothmonk> And no, we are nerds, sleep is for weaklings who dont know what a d20 is!
30:53 * Proquar nogs at Wrothmonk
31:01 <Wrothmonk> nogs?
31:09 <Proquar> avatar sent me the codex last night
31:10 <Wrothmonk> I dont think its anywhere near christmas 
31:12 <Proquar> :D
31:28 <Proquar> ah ha
31:35 <Proquar> and now i see it... it is an NPC codex
31:48 <Wrothmonk> the bestiary?
31:49 <Proquar> as opposed to a Players core rules
31:54 <Falang> wall sections, chairs, doors, etc
32:03 <Falang> so you can easily make your own
32:17 <Falang> 'map construction set'
32:26 <Wrothmonk> Sorry but I have no clue what you're talking about, I havent heard of any codex related to pathfinder before
33:02 <Mekkis> ,,,
34:36 <Falang> are we doing this in morse code?
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35:27 <Proquar> i get that a lot, really
35:28 <Proquar> ;)
37:02 <Mekkis> hmmm
39:35 <Falang> obviously i could go nuts with photoshop but why do it if it's already done
39:55 <Mekkis> what are you trying to do?
40:38 <CABot> 200,0,10,13,255,255,255,1,
40:42 <CABot> 200,0,5,10,255,255,255,1,
40:45 <CABot> 200,0,1,14,255,255,255,1,
40:48 <CABot> 202,0,6,13,255,255,255
40:53 <CABot> 224,0,65543,43 106 104 167 255 255 255
41:10 <CABot> 204,0,3,7
41:28 <Proquar> wrothmonk, what is the point of a bard?
41:34 <Mekkis> anyone want to take a stab about what CABot's saying?
41:35 <Wrothmonk> buffs
41:44 <Falang> ...
41:47 <Falang> ookay
42:01 <Falang> say if you wanted to make your own adventure, you'd need to create maps for CA
42:05 <Wrothmonk> or the chance to make crappy jokes in character 
42:27 <Falang> maps with trees and rocks and wagons and doors and whatnot in it.
42:32 * Proquar grins mischeviously
42:44 <Proquar> any char can be a wannabe bard for that purpose
42:56 <Wrothmonk> Not exactly I think
43:14 <Wrothmonk> except for the second one
43:20 <Falang> something kinda like.. this.. but.. prettier.  http://www.dxcontent.com/MAP_Editor.html
43:35 <Wrothmonk> Also what do you think the aspiring bard trait is for?
43:51 <Proquar> i see the bard has been zuped up, but y'know... they're still bards ;)
44:03 <Proquar> making crappy jokes
44:57 <Falang> ah, there are 'map packs'. I guess that could be sliced and diced..
45:43 <Wrothmonk> personally I like the idea that technically you could just sing twinkle twinkle little star and everyone would get a +1 bravery bonus :P
46:51 <Mekkis> considering adding them to CA
46:59 <Mekkis> but I think CABot takes precedence
47:02 <CABot> 224,0,65543,106 127 125 146 255 255 255
47:05 <CABot> 204,0,5,6
47:05 <CABot> 204,0,5,10
47:06 <CABot> 204,0,6,13
47:07 <CABot> 204,0,10,13
47:32 <Falang> the hell was that? I have a pretty good guess but..
47:49 <Mekkis> what's the guess?
48:52 <Falang> something associated with CA, trying to link irc with mapping functions?
49:02 <Proquar> all right, i'm not sure how i'm supposed to use the cdex
49:04 <Proquar> codex, even
49:20 * Wrothmonk raises hands dont ask me 
49:24 <Falang> those could be coordinates and id numbers
49:28 <Mekkis> close
49:44 <Wrothmonk> that was supposed to be two lines :/
50:03 <Steven> IM BACK!
50:17 <Proquar> too many forums
51:09 <Falang> Welcome back
51:27 <Proquar> i'm afk
51:31 <Falang> I'm betting you have an idea of what i'm after?
51:51 <Steven> whatcha after?
52:05 <Falang> scroll up 
52:08 <Falang> not far
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52:30 <Steven> i dont scroll
53:29 <Falang> I don't even know what to say to that
53:34 <Falang> <Falang> say if you wanted to make your own adventure, you'd need to create maps for CA
53:34 <Falang> [19:41] <Falang> maps with trees and rocks and wagons and doors and whatnot in it.
53:34 <Falang> [19:42] <Falang> something kinda like.. this.. but.. prettier.  http://www.dxcontent.com/MAP_Editor.html
53:34 <Falang> [19:44] <Falang> ah, there are 'map packs'. I guess that could be sliced and diced..
53:40 <Mekkis> he wants to find map glyphs
54:48 <Steven> whatcha talkin bout willis?
55:52 <Falang> making your own maps for PF
56:00 <Falang> decent looking ones. 
56:06 <Falang> some kind of construction kit
56:13 <Falang> or clip art
56:26 <Mekkis> I use inkscape for the kingmaker stuff
56:27 <Steven> have you heard of google...
57:36 <Falang> I was trying that also, I did provide an example.. it rather depends on terminology. Besides you're always on about the gaming store or whatever.. figured you'd be the person to know
58:43 <Falang> Having a hard enough time getting you two to understand it, you want me to rely on google? :)
58:57 <Steven> well then it will all be your fault.
59:36 <Steven> also, i'll get to be lazy.
03:12 <Falang> Mekkis: yeah, I was considering something like that, though I don't know vector well, prolly just go with photoshop..
04:14 <Steven> photoshop good stuff
04:17 <Mekkis> fyi, if I ever get around to putting glyphs into CA, it will be SVG
04:27 <Mekkis> I love to zoom :)
05:49 <Steven> he is a zoomer
06:52 <Mekkis> what can I say
08:46 <Falang> oh sure, I can't say I'd blame you there, certainly better than raster for an app like that.
09:07 <Falang> might be nice to allow players to move their own pieces, that's for sure.
09:58 <Mekkis> that's unlikely
10:13 <Mekkis> what's more likely is for players to be able to specify a square by clicking though
12:28 <Steven> that would be pretty cool
13:03 <Proquar> I have a question, mekkis
13:12 <Mekkis> go ahead
13:15 <Steven> dont do it proquar!
13:17 <Steven> its a trap!
13:23 * Proquar loves traps
13:32 <Proquar> can you just roll a level 5 char?
13:38 * Proquar ponders the situation
13:39 <Mekkis> of course you can
13:47 <Mekkis> ...but not for PFS
14:55 <Proquar> ha
15:16 <Steven> I like making random characters
15:22 * Proquar sighs very deeply
15:23 <Proquar> :p
15:29 <Mekkis> Are you interested in the ANZAC day game?
15:44 <Proquar> Yeah
15:53 <Proquar> I have deemed Thursday to be a relaxing day
16:04 <Mekkis> Steven can supply you with your choice of eleven quality pregens, I believe
16:20 <Proquar> you just play someone else's char?
16:27 <Mekkis> (you have the NPC codex, right, Steven?)
16:37 <Steven> Yup, i do mekkis
16:57 * Proquar blinks unwittingly
17:44 <Steven> hmmm.... so next challenge i think im going to do
18:09 <Steven> make a viable rogue
18:13 <Mekkis> is it possible for you to show them to Proquar?
18:39 <Steven> nope
20:22 <Proquar> thanks avatar
20:34 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/Pregens-Levels.zip
20:34 <Proquar> steven, would it help to know that i'd consider playing a cleric
20:35 <Proquar> ?
20:39 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/Pregens-UC-Levels.zip
25:00 <Mekkis> Steven, if I were to have two animal companions, could I switch between which one is "combat" and which is "non-combat" mid-scenario?
25:21 <Mekkis> (while not in combat, naturally
25:22 <Mekkis> )
27:24 <Proquar> afk
29:06 <Steven> i dunno, theres a faq on it somewhere
29:26 <Falang> *yawn*
34:03 <Steven> hmmmm.... that build would be viable at level 6
37:43 <Steven> so... whatcha guys think
38:02 <Mekkis> I think it's great!
38:14 <Mekkis> I got two CA instances talking to each other over IRC!
38:27 <Steven> kick ass
38:49 <Steven> So Controlled Rage+Amplified Rage, put all that stuff into Dex
39:09 <Steven> so as an inquisitor you could Amplified rage for +4 str/dex/con
39:41 <Mekkis> so trying to get ports properly forwarded might be a non-issue!
40:28 <Mekkis> that being said
40:34 <Mekkis> I should run it by Ballig first
40:41 <Mekkis> except that Brunius ballignapped him
43:03 <Mekkis> That said, if your friends are making fun of your decision to go to church, it is probably a matter of the type of church to which you are going. Are you a member of one of those faiths that preaches respect for one’s fellow man and compassion and all that? If so, that is the root of your problem.
43:21 <Mekkis> Empathy and human kindness are interpreted as signs of weakness and are the spiritual equivalent of putting a kick-me sign on one’s back. I recommend joining a church with more of a blood worship, drug-taking, insane-dancing, human sacrifice sort of vibe. Your friends are much less likely to make fun of you if they think the odds are good that you’re going to lunge at them wearing a giant straw mask and brandishing a serrated dagger.
46:35 <Mekkis> if I even become a VO, I'll make sure my email address is longer than anyone else's
47:08 <Mekkis> (the Brisbane VC's is already the longest...)
47:17 <Steven> but they you would know all the VO secrets
47:23 <Steven> then*
47:39 <Mekkis> what? by having a long email address?
47:50 <Steven> yup
04:14 <Falang> ???
04:43 <Falang> I agree wholeheartedly.
10:29 <Mekkis>  "You carry around a device the size of a deck of cards with the power of a Cray supercomputer, and you use it as a /phone/?"
13:20 <Wrothmonk> :/
13:27 <Wrothmonk> Thats just asking for more trouble
13:59 <Wrothmonk> Since who is to say that church wont do anything to you?
14:20 <Wrothmonk> or better yet the police
14:24 <Mekkis> Wrothmonk, that's horrible. You must never have considered the worship of Lissala!
24:17 <Ashar> holy crap. this pathfinder stuff is expensive on their site
24:38 <Falang> $8.99 for a 2 page pdf
25:25 <Steven> what pdf?
25:39 <Falang> these flip-mats
25:53 <Falang> http://paizo.com/products/btpy8oty?GameMastery-FlipMat-Arena for example
26:11 <Falang> that's a massive ripoff. I mean come on.
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26:26 <Steven> its a flip mat...
26:37 <Falang> it's a pdf.
27:07 <Falang> you wanna sell an actual mat, that's fine, that's $12.99, the pdf is almost as expensive.. and some of them are only sold as pdfs.
27:40 <andrey> are we going ahead with the game next morning
27:41 <andrey> ?
29:04 <Falang> Looks like Lissala took offense
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55:41 <Mekkis> Lissala loves you
02:41 <Wrothmonk> Who?
03:00 <Mekkis> Lissala - the Risen Rune
03:12 <Mekkis> the thing that Season 4 is all about!
04:19 <Mekkis> !spell remove blindness
04:25 <diebot> Mekkis, REMOVE SICKNESS conjuration (healing[]) cleric 1, druid 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S Duration: 10 minutes/level; see text Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
04:25 <diebot> You quell feelings of illness and nausea in the target, giving it a +4 morale bonus on saving throws against disease, nausea, and sickened effects. If the subject is already under the influence of one of these effects when receiving the spell, that effect is suppressed for the duration of the spell.
04:40 <Mekkis> !spell remove blindness/deafness
04:42 <diebot> Mekkis, REMOVE BLINDNESS/DEAFNESS conjuration (healing[]) cleric 3, paladin 3, alchemist 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
04:42 <diebot> Remove blindness/deafness cures blindness or deafness (your choice), whether the effect is normal or magical in nature. The spell does not restore ears or eyes that have been lost, but it repairs them if they are damaged. Remove blindness/deafness counters and dispels blindness/deafness.
04:56 <Mekkis> hmmm
05:04 <Mekkis> Two spells that would be really useful
12:52 <miseria> "soy el poder, si me ofendes te castigo con todo el rigor, si te ofendo, calla o te declaro traidor a la patria" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
18:23 <Falang> so I guess if you really want to blind someone, rip their eyes out
19:51 <Mekkis> easier to slit their throat
20:29 <Falang> but not as entertaining in the long term
20:55 <Wrothmonk> Being dead tends to ruin long term stuff
21:08 <Falang> except decomposition
21:21 <Wrothmonk> I stand corrected
21:27 <Mekkis> sure, but it stops them swearing revenge on you
22:30 <Mekkis> so, I see an article like "Australian privacy watchdog wants answers on Google Glass"
22:38 <Mekkis> and my first thought is:
22:52 <Mekkis> "WTF... Australia has a 'privacy watchdog'?"
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23:54 <N2H4> How will google glass be any more of a privacy problem than everyone having cameras in cell phones?
24:20 <Wrothmonk> Google glass has sensors to read your mind man!
24:26 <Wrothmonk> /////sarcasm//////////
24:33 <Mekkis> !spell submerge ship
24:35 <diebot> Mekkis, SUBMERGE SHIP transmutation ([]) cleric 7, sorcerer/wizard 7 1 minute Range: touch 1 sailing vessel Comp: V, S, M/DF (a glass marble or piece of soap) Duration: 10 minutes/level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no
24:36 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/submerge_ship.html
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24:48 <Wrothmonk> The spell for instant submarine?
24:55 <N2H4> Submarines aren't all its cracked up to be.
25:09 <Falang> Mekkis: your first thought is what
25:34 <Wrothmonk> Mekkis: "WTF... Australia has a 'privacy watchdog'?"
25:57 <Mekkis> that I didn't know that Australia, with all its talk of internet filters, email screening, and mobile phone logging, has a 'Privacy Watchdog'"
26:18 <Falang> hah
26:21 <Mekkis> "The ship itself uses its Will saving throw to resist this effect."
28:31 <Goya> I think I found the privacy watchdog 'Home Office'. http://imgur.com/Rm7FT
29:32 <Goya> Mind you - it is ironic that government pretends things are in your 'best interest' while working against them. 
30:35 <Mekkis> N2H4, I understand, but it's still useful when... transporting... livestock...
32:06 <N2H4> Livestock. Right.
32:29 <Mekkis> Ask Ulzef. He has some slips to sell you
33:51 <N2H4> Had enough of submarines honestly.
34:13 <Mekkis> I can believe that
41:08 <N2H4> I think the most fun I really had on it was getting lost in the engine room.
41:29 <Mekkis> you got lost on a submarine?
41:38 <Mekkis> I didn't think they were that big
42:06 <N2H4> Lost may be the wrong word. Exploring is better I think.
43:00 <N2H4> No, they aren't that big, but theres plenty of interesting spots in the engineroom it takes a bit of gymnastics and contortion to get into.
55:23 <Mekkis> did they make you sign anything that says you're not allowed to talk about stuff?
59:29 <N2H4> Gotta keep some secrets.
04:07 <N2H4> It cracks me up how every tv show and movie that involves military and shows a computer has some crazy fancy OS and UI.
05:31 <Mekkis> http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=163
05:52 <Mekkis> like that?
06:49 <N2H4> Pretty much.
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11:18 <N2H4> Its especially sharp when they show military computers as something amazingly cool.
11:30 <N2H4> Last I checked the US Navy was still using windows 2000.
11:33 <Farang> Okay, trapped here again for a while..
12:49 <N2H4> So whats the difference between Farang and Falang. The words, I mean.
15:20 <Farang> Farang is the real word, falang is how the Thai people say it since they screw up the r sound.
16:27 <Farang> Both just mean, roughly, 'foreigner'. Originally I think it just meant French people.
17:26 <N2H4> Learn something new every day.
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18:31 <Farang> Though I think they say it with more distaste
22:38 <N2H4> I think you mentioned that it was derogatory.
23:41 <Farang> Well... Hard to judge. They have no problem talking about you in Thai with you standing right there.. It feels derogatory.
24:58 <Farang> Hard to say if that's cultural or what, but no farang ever felt like they respect you... Unless they were an idiot.
30:10 <Farang> A Thai person obviously is at fault in a car accident with a farang, the farang is always at fault, period.
31:41 <N2H4> It was kinda like that in Hawaii too.
35:23 <N2H4> A sailor I knew was hitting on the wrong Hawaiian girl in a club. In hindsight its easy to tell she was the wrong girl. Her male protectors put him in a coma by fracturing his skull.
39:20 <Farang> I can easily see that happening here. Esp. Since the girls commonly want farang men, we treat our women better and have more money. I've heard girls say that, so of course it pisses the men off.
41:23 <N2H4> You know, I've heard the same about Australian women. I'm tempted to think its got little to do with location and more to do with the grass being greener on the other side.
41:23 <Steven> hey hey
41:47 <N2H4> And stories about events from friends casting said events in a better light than the truth.
41:49 <Steven> i got hit with a migraine so i took a nap... whats goin on?
42:42 <N2H4> Not too much. We're philosophizing. Or something like that.
43:14 <Mekkis> rules question: the FAQ states that animals "could be purchased with Light Armor Proficiency as one of its feats (swapping out Endurance or Skill Focus respectively) for the same cost."
43:42 <Mekkis> would this extend to animals other than horses or dogs?
43:53 <Steven> whats the faq say
44:03 <Mekkis>  Handle Animal: Does training an animal using Handle Animal to be Combat Trained (pg 98 in the Core Rulebook) grant it Light Armor Proficiency?
44:03 <Mekkis> No, using Handle Animal to train an animal, or mount, in this way does not grant it a free bonus feat. It is not unreasonable, however to assume that an animal specifically designed to be ridden (such as a horse or dog) could be purchased with Light Armor Proficiency as one of its feats (swapping out Endurance or Skill Focus respectively) for the same cost.
44:03 <Mekkis> —Jason Bulmahn, 10/21/10
44:12 <Steven> also, that sounds interesting hydra
44:46 <Farang> The day Battle Cattle became a reality!
44:47 <Mekkis> that predates Animal Archive by over two years though
45:20 <Steven> well i suggest you do a search on paizo forums and if its not there go ahead and make a thread
45:29 <N2H4> I would think yes, but expect the extra pricetag on exotic-shape armor to go with it.
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48:37 * Steven whispers if we're quiety maybe they will go away...
49:07 <Mekkis> he PMed me a question last night, when I was asleep
51:39 <Farang> War dogs with chainmail sounds good
52:00 <Farang> And cute little helmets
53:05 <Mekkis> http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dgm/tiwoirwiixix/40b46ko8z4_EN.jpg
54:37 <N2H4> Back in my day, we'd never let an armored bear in the league..
59:23 <Mekkis> I've always thought that animal barding looks impressive
21:14 <N2H4> ...if you were trying to armor a snake, how would you keep it on?
21:38 <N2H4> A chainmail 'sock' and glue seems to be about the best I can come up with.
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23:02 <Steven> serpents dont have an Armor slot
23:27 <Steven> they only have belt eyes and headband slots
24:18 <N2H4> and belt is somehow more reasonable than armor?
24:51 <Steven> to the designers aparantly
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00:16 <Steven> wish my head would stop hurting... i blame........
00:21 <Steven> ziria...
06:36 <Falang> hooooome.. just in time to catch the start of that thunderstorm and get wet
07:15 * Falang opens up a new account with ebay... "Snake Belts"..
08:33 <Falang> snake HEADBANDS?!
08:38 <Falang> that's even better..
08:41 <Falang> gonna make a fortune
08:45 <N2H4> Yeah. For the snakes that play Basketball.
08:48 <N2H4> Nike makes em.
09:29 <Falang> so.. raining.. in thailand. I'm gonna probably lose internet. :,(
13:23 <Steven> that sucks man
24:06 <Falang> huh. so far so good. didn't rage as hard as it's bluster indicated. steady downpour.. I might make it through this!
26:31 <Steven> god how perfect would it be if it went down right now
29:41 <Steven> just the universe bitch slapping your optimisim 
30:20 <Steven> im.... thirsty think im going to get me some ice tea... Anyone want to play anything when I get back?
34:26 <Falang> Uhh.. I might just be up for that..
34:35 <Falang> other than lunch, don't think I got jack going on the rest of the day
35:16 <Falang> need to get back into leveling up, I never did finish that, but afterwards, Ashar is up for a game..
36:46 <Mekkis> N2H4, the armour attaches at the head
36:55 <Mekkis> attaches to the fangs
41:52 <Steven> ugh... this migaine is migrating into my right eye
42:08 <Steven> tonight is going to suck!
43:25 <Mekkis> If you're arguing that sloppily written material is invalid, half the entire PF line is right down the toilet.
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52:35 <Steven> i think im going to order some taquidoes for dinner, ir eally dont feel like cooking
57:18 <Steven> time to find something to watch
03:03 <Falang> taquitos?
03:07 <Falang> frozen?
03:15 <Falang> oh
03:16 <Falang> ordre
03:39 <Falang> I used to gobble down these frozen taquitos all the time back in the US, so yummy. microwave for a min, poof!
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22:37 <Proquar> mekkis?
22:42 <Mekkis> dot
22:56 <Brunius_> ding
23:11 <Proquar> explain to me please how to get a level 5 char for tomorrow?
23:19 <Brunius_> superglue
23:22 <Mekkis> you take a 7th level pregen
23:24 <Mekkis> and play it
23:37 <Mekkis> then, when your character hits 5th level, you apply the chronicle sheet
23:52 <Proquar> now i'm confused
24:04 <Mekkis> if Avatar sent you the pregens from the NPC codex, you choose one of them
31:02 <Steven> OR play 4 modules between now and tomorrow
32:54 <Mekkis> See? Steven's offered to GM them!
33:29 <Falang> hah
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35:01 <Proquar> yay steven!
35:33 <Proquar> avatar sent me the codex... which seems to have a whole lot of NPC, and you think i can just chose one of those?
35:36 * Proquar blinks
35:53 <Mekkis> I don't know what Avatar sent you
36:05 <Steven> i totaly didnt hear that you guys are sharing PDFs...
36:28 <Mekkis> The 1st and 7th level iconic characters found on pages 274-297 may be used in place of the downloadable pregenerated characters found on Paizo.com. 
37:17 <Mekkis> I think that answers your question
38:12 <Mekkis> Steven, my VC gave me the impression that those pages could be printed and used by new players
38:15 <Mekkis>  g
39:01 <Falang> pages 274 of what?
39:10 <Mekkis> NPC codex
39:26 <Falang> lets see here...
39:50 <Falang> Oh, nice.
39:53 <Falang> much better..
39:55 <Mekkis> At the very least, if someone's playing an iconic out of the NPC codex, I'll need to, you know, SEE the character sheet, which implies distribution
40:14 <Falang> I very well may, after I poke through them.
40:25 <Falang> any idea what the class distribution is like so far?
40:52 <Proquar> so, i can play a level 7 pregen, but can't generate one...
40:56 * Proquar ponders the situation
41:02 <Mekkis> no, but I do know that last time I ran it, Ezren and Kyra died :)
42:23 <Proquar> have to run... we'll see how we go
45:36 <Falang> well I might just be that wizard, he looks okay..
46:08 <Mekkis> last time I ran it, I killed him
47:24 <Falang> so?  That has nothing to do with me.
48:58 <Falang> feeling like a spellcaster.. so wiz/sorc/druid.. druid looks so adorable!
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14:35 <Steven> makin a dwarf!
14:42 <Mekkis> dwarf rogue?
15:31 <Steven> dwarf sorc!
15:40 <Mekkis> :(
15:55 <Steven> okay okay.... Dwarf Rogue Sorc!
49:59 <Steven> just got done watching The Mist...
54:30 <Steven> pretty awesome movie
51:41 <***> Buffer Playback...
51:41 <***> Playback Complete.
51:44 <Proquar> is it ok if i wait till 12ish tomorrow to accept? :p
52:11 <Proquar> is mekkis a gm?
52:32 <Avatar> yeah, as long as players don't drop out and the game ends up cancelled
52:41 <Avatar> of course he's a GM
52:44 <Avatar> he is GMing tomorrow
52:50 <Proquar> do you need at least 3?
52:55 <Avatar> yeah
53:05 <Proquar> yeah... but is he a VL GMing?
53:09 <Proquar> or a GM GMing?
53:14 <Avatar> he's a GM GMing
53:21 <Proquar> can a VL GM?
53:25 <Avatar> anyone can GM
53:33 <Avatar> you can GM if you want
53:39 <Proquar> so in a way, we're all GMs?
53:40 <Avatar> in fact I highly recommend it !
53:52 <Avatar> in a way anyone CAN GM
53:53 * Proquar sighs deeply
53:54 <Avatar> but you actually have to GM to be a GM
54:07 <Avatar> you can't just not GM and still be a GM
54:22 <Proquar> i'm confident i am one of the worst GMs in the world
54:30 <Avatar> why do you say that
54:36 <Avatar> have you done it before
54:40 <Proquar> not online
54:55 <Proquar> but i have...
55:10 <Avatar> I am a much better GM online than in person
56:21 <Steven> I'm better in person.
56:46 <Avatar> that's only because we can't understand half of what you say over skype
58:30 <Steven> it must be my american accent
59:03 <Avatar> I don't think so, because hydrazine is american and played with us a lot and we never had the same problem
59:11 <Avatar> have you tried a different mic
59:26 <Steven> Well we are from different areas of the country
59:38 <Avatar> sounds shifty!
59:56 <Avatar> I don't believe I'm about to buy a book just for spring loaded wrist sheathes
00:01 <Avatar> these better come in damn handy
00:08 <Proquar> so, mekkis... i'll probably play tomorrow... but if all the seats get taken, cest la vie
05:26 <diebot> Mekkis, REMOVE BLINDNESS/DEAFNESS conjuration (healing[]) cleric 3, paladin 3, alchemist 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Fortitude negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)
05:26 <diebot> Remove blindness/deafness cures blindness or deafness (your choice), whether the effect is normal or magical in nature. The spell does not restore ears or eyes that have been lost, but it repairs them if they are damaged. Remove blindness/deafness counters and dispels blindness/deafness.
05:41 <Mekkis> hmmm
05:49 <Mekkis> Two spells that would be really useful
19:07 <Falang> so I guess if you really want to blind someone, rip their eyes out
20:35 <Mekkis> easier to slit their throat
21:13 <Falang> but not as entertaining in the long term
21:39 <Wrothmonk> Being dead tends to ruin long term stuff
21:52 <Falang> except decomposition
22:05 <Wrothmonk> I stand corrected
22:11 <Mekkis> sure, but it stops them swearing revenge on you
23:14 <Mekkis> so, I see an article like "Australian privacy watchdog wants answers on Google Glass"
23:22 <Mekkis> and my first thought is:
23:36 <Mekkis> "WTF... Australia has a 'privacy watchdog'?"
24:38 <N2H4> How will google glass be any more of a privacy problem than everyone having cameras in cell phones?
25:04 <Wrothmonk> Google glass has sensors to read your mind man!
25:10 <Wrothmonk> /////sarcasm//////////
25:17 <Mekkis> !spell submerge ship
25:19 <diebot> Mekkis, SUBMERGE SHIP transmutation ([]) cleric 7, sorcerer/wizard 7 1 minute Range: touch 1 sailing vessel Comp: V, S, M/DF (a glass marble or piece of soap) Duration: 10 minutes/level Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no
25:19 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/submerge_ship.html
25:32 <Wrothmonk> The spell for instant submarine?
25:39 <N2H4> Submarines aren't all its cracked up to be.
25:53 <Falang> Mekkis: your first thought is what
26:18 <Wrothmonk> Mekkis: "WTF... Australia has a 'privacy watchdog'?"
26:42 <Mekkis> that I didn't know that Australia, with all its talk of internet filters, email screening, and mobile phone logging, has a 'Privacy Watchdog'"
27:02 <Falang> hah
27:05 <Mekkis> "The ship itself uses its Will saving throw to resist this effect."
29:15 <Goya> I think I found the privacy watchdog 'Home Office'. http://imgur.com/Rm7FT
30:16 <Goya> Mind you - it is ironic that government pretends things are in your 'best interest' while working against them. 
31:19 <Mekkis> N2H4, I understand, but it's still useful when... transporting... livestock...
32:50 <N2H4> Livestock. Right.
33:13 <Mekkis> Ask Ulzef. He has some slips to sell you
34:35 <N2H4> Had enough of submarines honestly.
34:57 <Mekkis> I can believe that
41:52 <N2H4> I think the most fun I really had on it was getting lost in the engine room.
42:13 <Mekkis> you got lost on a submarine?
42:22 <Mekkis> I didn't think they were that big
42:50 <N2H4> Lost may be the wrong word. Exploring is better I think.
43:44 <N2H4> No, they aren't that big, but theres plenty of interesting spots in the engineroom it takes a bit of gymnastics and contortion to get into.
56:07 <Mekkis> did they make you sign anything that says you're not allowed to talk about stuff?
00:13 <N2H4> Gotta keep some secrets.
04:51 <N2H4> It cracks me up how every tv show and movie that involves military and shows a computer has some crazy fancy OS and UI.
06:15 <Mekkis> http://www.galactanet.com/comic/view.php?strip=163
06:36 <Mekkis> like that?
07:33 <N2H4> Pretty much.
12:02 <N2H4> Its especially sharp when they show military computers as something amazingly cool.
12:14 <N2H4> Last I checked the US Navy was still using windows 2000.
12:17 <Farang> Okay, trapped here again for a while..
13:33 <N2H4> So whats the difference between Farang and Falang. The words, I mean.
16:04 <Farang> Farang is the real word, falang is how the Thai people say it since they screw up the r sound.
17:11 <Farang> Both just mean, roughly, 'foreigner'. Originally I think it just meant French people.
18:10 <N2H4> Learn something new every day.
19:15 <Farang> Though I think they say it with more distaste
23:22 <N2H4> I think you mentioned that it was derogatory.
24:25 <Farang> Well... Hard to judge. They have no problem talking about you in Thai with you standing right there.. It feels derogatory.
25:41 <Farang> Hard to say if that's cultural or what, but no farang ever felt like they respect you... Unless they were an idiot.
30:54 <Farang> A Thai person obviously is at fault in a car accident with a farang, the farang is always at fault, period.
32:25 <N2H4> It was kinda like that in Hawaii too.
36:07 <N2H4> A sailor I knew was hitting on the wrong Hawaiian girl in a club. In hindsight its easy to tell she was the wrong girl. Her male protectors put him in a coma by fracturing his skull.
40:04 <Farang> I can easily see that happening here. Esp. Since the girls commonly want farang men, we treat our women better and have more money. I've heard girls say that, so of course it pisses the men off.
42:07 <N2H4> You know, I've heard the same about Australian women. I'm tempted to think its got little to do with location and more to do with the grass being greener on the other side.
42:07 <Steven> hey hey
42:31 <N2H4> And stories about events from friends casting said events in a better light than the truth.
42:33 <Steven> i got hit with a migraine so i took a nap... whats goin on?
43:26 <N2H4> Not too much. We're philosophizing. Or something like that.
43:58 <Mekkis> rules question: the FAQ states that animals "could be purchased with Light Armor Proficiency as one of its feats (swapping out Endurance or Skill Focus respectively) for the same cost."
44:27 <Mekkis> would this extend to animals other than horses or dogs?
44:37 <Steven> whats the faq say
44:47 <Mekkis>  Handle Animal: Does training an animal using Handle Animal to be Combat Trained (pg 98 in the Core Rulebook) grant it Light Armor Proficiency?
44:47 <Mekkis> No, using Handle Animal to train an animal, or mount, in this way does not grant it a free bonus feat. It is not unreasonable, however to assume that an animal specifically designed to be ridden (such as a horse or dog) could be purchased with Light Armor Proficiency as one of its feats (swapping out Endurance or Skill Focus respectively) for the same cost.
44:47 <Mekkis> —Jason Bulmahn, 10/21/10
44:56 <Steven> also, that sounds interesting hydra
45:30 <Farang> The day Battle Cattle became a reality!
45:32 <Mekkis> that predates Animal Archive by over two years though
46:04 <Steven> well i suggest you do a search on paizo forums and if its not there go ahead and make a thread
46:13 <N2H4> I would think yes, but expect the extra pricetag on exotic-shape armor to go with it.
49:21 * Steven whispers if we're quiety maybe they will go away...
49:51 <Mekkis> he PMed me a question last night, when I was asleep
52:23 <Farang> War dogs with chainmail sounds good
52:44 <Farang> And cute little helmets
53:49 <Mekkis> http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dgm/tiwoirwiixix/40b46ko8z4_EN.jpg
55:21 <N2H4> Back in my day, we'd never let an armored bear in the league..
00:08 <Mekkis> I've always thought that animal barding looks impressive
21:58 <N2H4> ...if you were trying to armor a snake, how would you keep it on?
22:22 <N2H4> A chainmail 'sock' and glue seems to be about the best I can come up with.
23:46 <Steven> serpents dont have an Armor slot
24:10 <Steven> they only have belt eyes and headband slots
25:02 <N2H4> and belt is somehow more reasonable than armor?
25:35 <Steven> to the designers aparantly
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