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00:01 <illakilla> i see
00:29 <Mekkis> but if you want to give it a shot, you're welcome to roll up a character and play a game online here
00:38 <Mekkis> we're always looking for new players
04:55 <illakilla> okay is it an applet?
05:05 <Mekkis> no.
05:13 <illakilla> 3d game?
05:21 <Mekkis> it's a roleplaying game
05:29 <illakilla> on the webpage?
05:42 <Mekkis> no, we do it in-channel
05:49 <illakilla> oh... coooool
05:49 <Mekkis> each session takes between 4 and 6 hours
05:55 <illakilla> yea i'm interested for sure
05:58 <Mekkis> we use skype for voice
06:10 <illakilla> ok cool i have an msn account 
06:18 <Mekkis> and a program called CA for mapping
06:39 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
06:45 <Mekkis> that's our getting started guide
07:49 <illakilla> cheers
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41:50 <Valdamon> Hello
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32:42 <Valdamon> Hello Falang
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09:11 <Steven> i got my skunk on my blight druid and thats it
09:51 <Steven> btw, a soh check is a standard action unless you take a -20 to the roll at which point it is a move action
10:43 <Steven> i really need to find a feat for my sylvaan sorc
10:54 <Steven> already have celestial servant and Boon companion
11:11 <Avatar> yo
11:20 <Steven> hey avatar
11:41 <Avatar> unbelievable re shadow lodge eh
12:04 <Mekkis> THE UNION HAS DISBANDED!!!
12:31 <Avatar> looks like you were half correct eh mekkis
12:34 <Avatar> you and nobody else eh
12:47 <Mekkis> I believe kapow was also half-correct
12:47 <Avatar> who could have guessed lantern lodge was one of them
13:00 <Avatar> did anyone not guess lantern lodge
13:07 <Avatar> steven you had the tally
13:27 <Mekkis> I believe Wroth guessed Osirion and Qadira
13:31 <niconorsk> CL for improved familiars is dependent on the familiar, there's a table that defines it in core
13:57 <Steven> I dont believe anyone guessed both Shadow Lodge and Lantern Lodge
14:13 <Avatar> I totally thought I remember mike talking about how the countries shouldn't be factions
14:29 <Avatar> i don't think anyone guessed shadow lodge and anything else
14:42 <Avatar> shadow lodge ftw :((
15:39 <niconorsk> Kinda wanna make a shadow lodge character and try to get it to 3 to run the going away scenario with it
16:40 <Steven> i went and chcked
16:53 <Steven> no one guessed both of them
17:24 <Steven> so, no one gets the pot
17:47 <Avatar> yeah but did anyone guess shadow lodge for one of them
18:00 <Steven> no
18:05 <Ulzef> hello all
18:12 <Avatar> I think mike and his crew should reconsider
18:25 <Steven> Though if i had gotten to guess it would have been shadow and lantern lodge for me.
18:34 <Avatar> Ulzef: rumour has it your slaver's faction is going to become a reality
18:46 <Avatar> you wouldn't have guessed either
18:47 <Ulzef> huzzah
19:22 <Ulzef> actually latern and shadow were the two i called if they were able to hit two new factions
19:51 <Avatar> you called silver crusade 
20:14 <Ulzef> no i said osiriani latern and shadow
20:28 <Ulzef> they were never hitting silver because they need the good faction'
20:45 <Ulzef> and i prayed for andoran because i hate them
21:14 <Avatar> damn andorans
21:30 <Avatar> they don't need a good faction
21:35 <Steven> i prayed so hard too ulzef
21:40 <Avatar> andorans were the good faction until they realised we don't need them !
21:57 <Mekkis> Ulzef, I thought you preyed on Andoran
22:15 <Mekkis> what's Helmid going to do?
22:17 <Ulzef> yeah but they have always been the chaotic good faction they just didnt used to call them that
22:28 <Steven> the only reason andorans are around is because the sheep that are new american players hear that anti-slavery demcracy and get all retarded over it
22:37 <Ulzef> Helmid is silver crusade
22:43 <Steven> and nearly auto join the faction
22:45 <Mekkis> I thought he went Union
23:10 <Mekkis> or was that Gitch's character
23:13 <Ulzef> nope he hates the union the union and androran were the factions i said i would never go
23:26 <Avatar> do any of you have shadow lodge/lantern lodge chars
23:29 <Mekkis> hey... Who's up for Shades of Ice III
23:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, I do
23:34 <Ulzef> nope gitch is qadiran one of his lower characters might be
23:40 <Avatar> who are they
23:44 <Ulzef> i have 1 lantern lodge
23:44 <Mekkis> I have Heneski, Formerly Nightmare
23:48 <Steven> I have 1 LL character, and 3 SL characters.
23:53 <Mekkis> and I'm very happy about it
24:04 <Mekkis> (happy about Lantern Lodge being disbanded)
24:34 <Steven> they arent being disbanded they just wont be available to PCs
24:38 <Avatar> yeah I was desperate to ditch lantern lodge
24:44 <Farang> Shadow here too
24:46 <Mekkis> either way, I get to change his faction
24:51 <Avatar> Snickers is shadow lodge :|
25:09 <Ulzef> i think latern was the logical choice they made sense in season 3 but havn't since then
25:12 <Mekkis> so, snickers should embrace Cheliax!
25:40 <Ulzef> Sneakers should inbrace the spirit of freedom
25:43 <Avatar> it doesn't fit her concept
25:51 <Avatar> haha yes!
26:08 <Mekkis> has she adventured with Ulzef?
26:15 <Avatar> don't think so
26:18 <Mekkis> she's adventured with Itzamna
26:24 <Steven> okay... so feat for my sylvaan sorc
26:36 <Ulzef> she has we went to the green market together
26:36 <Avatar> yeah but Itzamna did the opposite of what Ulzef did for Buck
26:39 <Mekkis> Steven, merciful spell
26:57 <Avatar> Ulzef got Buck through a special, Itzamna nearly got Snickers killed in a scenario
26:58 <Ulzef> when i opened my stall there
27:15 <Mekkis> ah
27:37 <Avatar> actually Snickers is against slavery
27:38 <Steven> mekkis thats a crappy spell...
27:48 <Mekkis> feat, you mean?
27:49 <Avatar> so maybe that wouldn't work
28:00 <Avatar> (but she's not going andoran, because andoran is shit)
28:11 <Avatar> I've learnt my lesson in choosing shit factions
28:12 <Steven> metamagic whatever
28:17 <Mekkis> ag crusade
28:33 <Steven> thats a horrible metamagic
29:36 <Mekkis> so, a 20' Steel Dry Cargo Container weighs 2.4 tons (metric)
30:05 <Mekkis> or 5,140 lb
30:31 <Avatar> actually I'm really not sure what to change to
30:43 <Avatar> sczarni maybe
30:46 <Mekkis> steel's density is 503 lb/cu ft
30:49 <Ulzef> default to GL?
31:08 <Mekkis> so total volume is under 11 cubic feet
31:13 <Mekkis> !spell shrink object
31:15 <diebot> Mekkis, SHRINK ITEM transmutation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3 1 standard action Range: touch one touched object of up to 2 cu. ft./level Comp: V, S Duration: 1 day/level; see text Save: Will negates (object) SR:yes (object)
31:15 <diebot> You are able to shrink one nonmagical item (if it is within the size limit) to 1/16 of its normal size in each dimension (to about 1/4,000 the original volume and mass). This change effectively reduces the object's size by four categories. Optionally, you can also change its now shrunken composition to a clothlike one. Objects changed by a shrink
31:15 <diebot> item spell can be returned to normal composition and size merely by tossing them onto any solid surface or by a word of command from the original caster. Even a burning fire and its fuel can be shrunk by this spell. Restoring the shrunken object to its normal size and composition ends the spell. Shrink item can be made permanent with a permanency
31:15 <diebot> spell, in which case the affected object can be shrunk and expanded an indefinite number of times, but only by the original caster.
31:32 <Mekkis> So I could shrink a shipping container!
31:38 <Mekkis> http://www.evergreen-marine.com/tei1/images/20(2SD).jpg
31:47 <Mekkis> how much livestock would fit in there?
34:42 <Avatar> GL doesn't fit her at all
34:49 <Avatar> how could you go from SL to GL
34:50 <Steven> a 20ft steel cubic container is 8k ft^3
34:52 <Avatar> that's like the polar opposite
35:40 <Mekkis> Steven, but I'm only shrinking the steel, not the air inside it
35:44 <Ulzef> she was disallusioned by the shadow lodge and found out they are all the same anyway so she might as well work for the man?
36:14 <Mekkis> and the steel that I'm shrinking is less than 11 cubic ft
37:17 <Steven> it doesnt quit work that way mekkis, if you shrink the container you compress the space within the container as well
37:25 <Mekkis> ok
37:30 <Mekkis> I'll get an open-top container
37:36 <Mekkis> there. No space within
37:36 <Steven> meaning you still have to account for it in the allotment of shrinkage
38:31 <Avatar> she wasn't disillusioned
38:36 <Avatar> you're disillusioned
38:41 <Mekkis> after getting that brand on her
38:51 <Mekkis> "I am Lissala's bitch"
39:10 <Avatar> Lissala's witch, maybe
39:28 <Mekkis> I know what!
39:38 <Mekkis> Refuse to participate in ANY faction missions!
39:55 <Avatar> you can do that with nightmare
40:00 <Mekkis> they ALL discriminate against those with green skin
40:04 <Mekkis> Nightmare is no more!
40:27 <Avatar> they don't discrimine when I use that prestige I'm going to get them
40:27 <Mekkis> he changed name, class, abilities, feats, and now factions!
40:31 <Avatar> discriminate*
41:29 <Steven> i dont believe you get to change factions until season 5
41:40 <Mekkis> true
41:45 <Mekkis> he needs to play Way of the Kirin
41:48 <Avatar> I'd say she'll be retired by then, but my high level characters have been high level for years
41:50 <Steven> i sadly didnt get to listen to the whole podcast as i was forced to start pfsing
41:54 <Mekkis> so Avatar you GMing for PAXoz?
42:00 <Avatar> when is that
42:15 <Mekkis> did you hear what Mike said about "anyone playing PFS now"?
42:18 <Avatar> + more importantly is it in melbourne
42:20 <Mekkis> 17-19 July
42:23 <Mekkis> in Melbourne
42:41 <Avatar> haven't heard anything about it
42:58 <Mekkis> PMed you the details
43:07 <Mekkis> I imagine you'll want to tell your VC
43:14 <Mekkis> (this also might apply to Ulzef)
43:26 <Avatar> does he not know
43:31 <Avatar> does that mean it's not actually happening there
44:49 <Ulzef> huh what should i know
46:02 <Avatar> someone has told mekkis there's been a callout for GMs, they want to know who is interested, if you are it's a free pass into the con and whoever it is needs to know by tonight
47:02 <Ulzef> what days is it on and i will i wanted to go but they had sold out before i could get a ticket
47:07 <Ulzef> i'll gm to get in
47:25 <Avatar> have they sold out already
47:31 <Avatar> this is the first I have even heard about it
47:45 <Avatar> how are players going to get in if they have sold out
47:54 <Ulzef> i was told they sold out day 1 truth be told i never looked after i heard that
48:00 <Avatar> did they think this through
48:11 <niconorsk> Hang on, there's going to be PFS at PAX? 
48:22 <Avatar> only GMs, no players
49:09 <Falang> that'll be a lot of GMs sitting around saying "so what do you do?" for a few hours
49:22 <niconorsk> Those are not the PAX dates if so
52:57 <Mekkis> niconorsk, PAX AU
54:52 <niconorsk> I know, the one in Melbourne which is on from 19-21 July, not 17-19
55:18 <Mekkis> oh
55:48 <Ulzef> melbourne one is 19-21 looking at the site right now
56:29 <Mekkis> who's the grippli in your fleet, Ulzef?
56:33 <Mekkis> what's his name?
56:36 <Ulzef> 17-19 would be wednesday to friday
56:52 <Ulzef> i forget he was the npc is the cyper mage
57:23 <Avatar> did you recruit an npc
57:29 <Mekkis> you were there, Avatar!
57:32 <Mekkis> I think...
57:38 <Avatar> I haven't played cypher mage
57:42 <Mekkis> oh?
57:53 <Ulzef> yeah i told him i would let him live if he sailed for my fleet
57:54 <Avatar> it ran when I was running disappeared at conquest
58:10 <Mekkis> ummm... we played it at Conquest 2012
58:13 <Mekkis> or was it Arc?
58:18 <Avatar> yeah, not me
58:19 <Ulzef> this was at ark last year i think
58:28 <Mekkis> I remember that
58:34 <Avatar> don't ask me what I played instead, I don't remember that far back :P
58:35 <Mekkis> I was powerlevelling Itzamna
00:08 <Ulzef> did you get my pm earlyer mek
00:14 <Mekkis> yep
00:31 <Ulzef> :P kk wasnt sure cause ya didnt answer
01:01 <Mekkis> when are you free for SOI III this week or next week?
02:18 <Ulzef> Sat if your game doesnt happen and would have to work out times for sunday
02:32 <Mekkis> was thinking of weekday/weeknight
02:41 <Ulzef> will be home by 6pm on friday as well but you FNM so that prob doesnt work
02:48 <Mekkis> good news! Kapow will be getting his internets back soon
03:11 <Mekkis> unfortunately: there's this thing called a WMCG this weekend and a Prerelease next weekend
03:34 <Ulzef> next week wednesday i will be home by 6 not sure about thursday monday i have council of thieves and tuesday i have work then L5r
05:43 <Ulzef> i am normaly free all day saturday unless we Wotw wednesday night thursday night firdays nights and sunday mornings if i am not PFSing on here
06:32 <Ulzef> Friday and wednesdays i cannot promise a functioning brain though
07:34 <Ulzef> managed to go get a almost full time job 3 weeks ago which is why i havn't been on here as often
12:24 <kapow> !roll 4d6+2d6+18+4+18+8+4
12:24 <dicebot> kapow, 4d6+2d6+18+4+18+8+4: [4d6=5,6,4,4; 2d6=4,6] 81
17:20 <Steven> alright figured out what im going to take
17:25 <Steven> Taking Precise Shot
17:46 <Steven> or......
17:55 <Steven> maybe Weapon Focus(Touch)
18:02 <Avatar> that doesn't sound like you have figured it out
18:07 <Avatar> what is weapon focus touch
19:50 <spider21b> hi
19:52 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's not a legal feat
20:07 <Avatar> if steven says it's legal it must be legal
20:11 <Mekkis> !feat weapon focus
20:12 <diebot> Mekkis, WEAPON FOCUS [Combat]Prereq:  Proficiency with selected weapon, base attack bonus +1.  Choose one type of weapon. You can also choose unarmed strike or grapple (or ray, if you are a spellcaster) as your weapon for the purposes of this feat.
20:12 <spider21b> xd
20:12 <diebot> Benefit:  You gain a +1 bonus on all attack rolls you make using the selected weapon.
20:12 <diebot> Special:  You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new type of weapon. Source: Core
20:25 <spider21b> yep
20:34 <Mekkis> you can choose a weapon, an unarmed strike, grapple, or ray
20:35 <Mekkis> not touch
21:56 <spider21b> hey i forgotten how to play a wizard need to study up for saterday
22:20 <Ulzef> beleave a touch is a unarmed that doesn't provoke also you can take it for natural weapons and they arn't mentioned
23:47 <Ulzef> hey steven you would prob know is there anyway to get cha mod to anytype of attack or damage rolls?
23:50 <Steven> yeah im taking the ray, sorry had to go grab the phone
24:26 <Steven> i have spectral hand for touch attacks and its already at a +2 bonus
26:16 <Steven> yes
26:18 <Steven> there is
26:30 <Ulzef> how ?
26:41 <niconorsk> Smite evil. :)
26:48 <Steven> paladin for smite evil
26:54 <Steven> and mysterious Stranger
26:55 <Ulzef> well other than smite i ment a constant
30:09 <spider21b> bye for now guys
31:45 <Steven> leveling up my animal companion now
34:24 <Steven> AC of 30/13/27
35:33 <Mekkis> I think it's been ruled that Snowball isn't a "ray"
37:16 <Steven> is that being argued somewhere?
37:40 <Mekkis> no?
37:44 <Mekkis> I thought it was decided
38:49 <Steven> penelope finally has a strength bonus!
39:01 <Steven> only one more level and she gets a daze attack
39:11 <Mekkis> what is she?
39:43 <Steven> ankylosaurus
40:18 <Steven> whenever she hits, Fort DC18 or be dazed for a round
40:28 <Steven> on a crit its save or be stunned for 1d4
40:33 <Mekkis> ooh
40:33 <Mekkis> wow
40:37 <Mekkis> nice
40:49 <Steven> 10+1/2HD+str
42:22 <Mekkis> what book's that from?
42:59 <Steven> beast1
44:49 <Mekkis> wow
44:52 <Mekkis> that's a high AC
45:53 <Steven> its a tank
47:20 <Steven> next level she goes up to 31AC, and 35 if i throw shield on her, 38 if i put barkskin on her
47:31 <Mekkis> barding I'm assuming
47:33 <Steven> 40 if i protection from alignment her
47:34 <Ulzef> its the secound highest you csn get only thing that beats it is the giant snapping turtle and its not PFS legal
47:53 <Steven> yeah just chain shirt barding
47:57 <Mekkis> roc is near the top?
48:24 <Mekkis> I remember running a query after sniffing d20pfsrd for animal companions
48:43 <Steven> i could put more armor on her
48:47 <Ulzef> think they are fairly close
49:11 <Ulzef> but they get hampered by not being able to wear heavy barding
49:16 <Steven> but thats more feats and then she doesnt get the Acrobatics
50:10 <Steven> her weak point is vs touch and her CMD
50:35 <Steven> which is why i prepare Liberating command
50:44 <Steven> +12 to her escape artist
50:55 <Mekkis> I'm assuming that being large isn't an issue?
51:37 <Steven> I dont really see it as one
51:57 <Steven> because when she is large im going to get a saddle and ride her
52:05 <Steven> okay not really
52:57 <bugboy> i hate bugs, i collect them then torture them. ive been doing this for years but found this youtube video that made me think twice. i dont want to die like this guy...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0LUs7Ae3xc
53:09 <bugboy> btw  ddddddddddddddd n ddddddd
53:13 <Mekkis> that's disgusting
53:13 <bugboy> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
53:17 <Steven> oh you sneaky bastard
53:21 <bugboy> d n ddddddddddddddddddddd
53:33 <bugboy> yo party fockerssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
54:11 <Steven> i dont really think its going to be a problem being large
54:42 <Ulzef> i take it not clicking on the vid is the wisest thing to do
55:10 <Mekkis> incorrect
55:29 <Mekkis> click on the link, then report the video as a copyright infringement and send a DMCA takedown
55:46 <Farang> Wtf
58:08 <spider21b> at what level is it good to muitclass at?
58:32 <Mekkis> spider21b, 18
58:55 <Mekkis> (actually, it depends what character/concept you have. But 18 is a good level to consider it)
59:17 <Ulzef> 3
59:35 <Ulzef> most of the dip classes you take 2 lvls in
59:52 <Mekkis> spider21b, what's your concept?
00:03 <Mekkis> 20, if you're planning on taking a level of rogue :)
00:19 <Ulzef> monk,rogue,fighter,paladin are all good for a 2 lvl dip
00:20 <Farang> :-P 
00:36 <Mekkis> depends on the character
00:44 <spider21b> will spell book i was thinking a wizard who misses his father who was a fighter and wants to be more like him
00:47 <Ulzef> i like the 2 lvl rogue dip gets you evasion and a feat 
01:06 <spider21b> with wizard i dont want to take too many dips
01:15 <Mekkis> s/too many/any/
01:17 <Farang> Ulzef - ditto
01:17 <Ulzef> looking at the eldritch knight prestige?
01:22 <spider21b> jyep
01:24 <spider21b> yep
01:30 <Steven> martial classes are certainly easier to multiclass with
01:36 <Mekkis> spider21b, leave it to as late as possible
02:04 <Steven> I almost multiclassed with my Life Oracle
02:13 <Mekkis> (as in, I'd take it at 6th level)
02:13 <Steven> was going to take a 1 level dip into Cleric
02:20 <spider21b> gotcha
02:33 <Mekkis> and you'd need to choose fighter/ranger/paladin
02:38 <Steven> then i would have 11 channels for 10d6 and 9 channels for 3d6
02:42 <Mekkis> I'd suggest Ranger, but I'm not sure what your concept is
02:56 <Mekkis> or Cavalier?!
02:59 <Mekkis> !!
03:57 <spider21b> is there a way to become an Eldritch Knight without a level of fighter?
04:05 <Mekkis> yes
04:21 <spider21b> only ranger?
04:22 <Mekkis> level of ranger
04:22 <Mekkis> level of paladin
04:22 <Mekkis> level of cavalier
04:28 <spider21b> shit awesome
04:38 <Ulzef> you forgot barb
04:43 <Ulzef> it counts as well
04:43 <spider21b> true barb
04:49 <spider21b> a wizard barb thougth wouldn't work
04:50 <Mekkis> meh
05:22 <spider21b> i could see a level of ranger or fighter
05:36 <spider21b> ranger gets more stuff same deal with paladin
06:20 <Mekkis> level of Low Templar
06:35 <Mekkis> level of Golden Legionnaire
06:52 <Mekkis> level of Metal Oracle
10:01 <niconorsk_> So, idea for a cheesy build that just occurred to me, level 4 strategist cavalier/level 1 diviner, take lookout feat, whole party gets to act in surprise round
10:17 <spider21b> nice
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39:16 <Steven> almost 4pm... i guess i should get ready to go to pfs huh?
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01:38 <niconorsk> campaign announcement stream is live
01:55 <niconorsk> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmKTE6XGxyc&newstate=faa91752349f8866e31921e75243f619
14:22 <Goya> They're sanctioning the adventure paths?  Nice!
14:38 <Goya> NOT that I've played yet - but the AP thing looks pretty neat (all considered). 
15:09 <Mekkis> they've done that already
15:15 <Goya> Oh.. 
15:36 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/about/additionalResources
15:45 <Mekkis> Rise of the Runelords Anniversary Edition is sanctioned for use in Pathfinder Society Organized Play.
15:45 <Mekkis> Download the rules and Chronicle sheets. (438 KB zip/PDF).
17:01 <Goya> Hrm..  Serves me right for listening to the stream for 30 seconds before talking. 
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31:18 <Mekkis> 3 logicians go into a bar.; the barman says ‘Would you all like a drink?’.
31:18 <Mekkis> The first says 'I’m not sure', the second says 'I’m not sure', and the third says 'Yes'.
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57:25 <Nornok> For those not listening to the podcast: from season 5, you will be rewarded for the subtier your character is rather than the subtier you are playing
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19:59 <Mekkis> yay
20:02 <Nornok> Firs of the factions to go: Lantern Lodge.  
20:03 <Mekkis> lantern lodge is out
21:58 <Mekkis> ooh 
22:21 <Mekkis> shadow lodge too
33:12 <Nornok> I really like that the two factions are getting their ending scenario
33:27 <Falang> well shoot, I was just joining shadow lodge
33:46 * Falang shakes his fist at the sky "typical! "
36:01 <Nornok> It sounds like it'll be worth your while playing the end of faction scenarios with a character from that faction
36:11 <Mekkis> poor Ulzef
45:57 <Falang> haven't even had a chance to do a faction mission yet
48:28 <Goya> I haven't even played PFS yet... Although - my availability is to blame so far. 
03:22 <Falang> oh sure.. blame the availability.. way to shrug off any personal responsibility in the matter.. ;)
06:04 <Mekkis> heh
06:18 <Mekkis> paizo can close the chat :P
07:36 <Falang> what chat?
08:11 <Mekkis> there was a live videoconference with the Paizo staff
08:16 <Falang> ahh
08:33 <Falang> I hope you passed along my rantings about nerfing utility spells :)
08:42 <Mekkis> I didn't
08:51 * Falang sniffles
08:53 <Mekkis> and I also don't agree with you regarding that
09:56 <Falang> Well if you want wizards to be walking buff factories..
10:01 <Mekkis> I don't
10:12 <Falang> I blame WoW for this!
10:21 <Falang> And that antiquated Everquest
12:25 <Mekkis> I'm not sure how you can say that wizards' utility spells are particularly nerfed
12:38 <Mekkis> especially as the spells you were complaining about weren't really "utility spells"
12:44 <Falang> I pointed out several examples, which you even agreed with at the time. Jump
12:57 <Falang> Enlarge now being Enlarge PERSON
13:29 <Falang> Enlarge had 1,001 uses before.. now.. fighter buffing spell only.
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19:09 <Mekkis> I agreed that they were more balanced, not that they were "utility spells"
19:37 <Mekkis> more to the point, for you to analyse a system, you need to analyse the whole thing, not just "first-level wizard spells"
24:28 <Goya> I always thought enlarge WAS enlarge person... 
24:44 <Mekkis> no: it was weird
24:58 <Mekkis> you enlarge by 10% per caster level, maximum 50%
25:10 <Mekkis> of course, noone knew how that Actually Worked
25:33 <Goya> Seems like it could have been exploited pretty easily though... 
25:43 <Mekkis> in AD&D 2e, it would mean that you'd increase damage by 1.1 or something
25:52 <Mekkis> yeah....
26:12 <Mekkis> Now what it Actually Does is properly specified, so people know what happens
26:27 <Mekkis> this is, in Falang's terms, known as a "nerf"
26:46 <Goya> *nods* I can see it losing SOME utility - which is technically a nerf I suppose. 
26:54 <Mekkis> in 3.0, they removed the percentage scaling of damage, which made What It Did really... undefined
28:07 <Falang> they turned it into a combat spell basically
28:19 <Goya> +10cha to women?
28:34 <Mekkis> yeah. So now it does One Thing that makes sense, rather than heaps of things that don't
28:39 <Falang> even increasing the size of a door by 10% is enough to break the door
28:44 <Goya> *nods*  I can see it being exploited in general - if it's not limited to people
28:59 <Goya> *nods* Or the surrounding wall (et al). 
29:17 <Falang> Goya: it's not exploitation if that's how they intended it, it was like that for all of D&D, AD&D, AD&D2e..
29:42 <Mekkis> actually
29:55 <Mekkis> in AD&D2e, it would make the door thicker, but still functional
30:12 <Falang> there's also shrink
30:40 <Falang> I must say i do like what's been done with cantrips though
30:54 <Mekkis> that's a new Pathfinder change from 3.5e
30:56 <Goya> Unlimited you mean?
31:18 <Falang> yeah
31:42 <Goya> *nods* It fits - although I would argue that some cantrips are OP since they're unlimited. 
32:05 <Goya> Mend comes to mind - though I know not how useful it would be in an actual campaign - since I haven't played one yet. ;) 
32:18 <Mekkis> Goya, I've never seen a cantrip be overpowered
32:50 <Mekkis> Who's up for a game this afternoon?
32:53 <Falang> it's not unreasonable to expect a mage to be able to make something glow for a while, etc. the effects are quite okay, though some are questionable as to how useful they would be outside of certain circumstances.
32:59 <Mekkis> in about 70 minutes time
33:01 <Goya> Mend seems like it could be OP - though I admit - I don't know quite how useful it would be in a campaign. 
33:11 <Falang> I could be up for that.
33:12 <Mekkis> I've never seen mend used.
33:15 <Mekkis> !spell mend
33:21 <diebot> Mekkis, BLEND illusion (glamer[]) alchemist 1, druid 1, magus 1, ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: S Duration: 10 minutes/level Save:  SR:
33:22 <diebot> You draw upon your elven link to the wilderness to change the coloration of yourself and your equipment to match that of your surroundings. This grants you a +4 circumstance bonus on Stealth checks and allows you to make Stealth checks without cover or concealment, but only while you move no more than half your base speed or less. If you move more
33:22 <diebot> than half your base speed on your turn, you gain no benefit from this spell until the start of your next turn. If you make an attack, this spell ends (as invisibility).
33:27 <Mekkis> !spell mending
33:28 <diebot> Mekkis, MENDING transmutation ([]) bard 0, cleric 0, druid 0, sorcerer/wizard 0, summoner 0, witch 0, summoner 0, witch 0 10 minutes Range: 10 ft. one object of up to 1 lb./level Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Will negates (harmless, object) SR:yes (harmless, object)
33:28 <diebot> This spell repairs damaged objects, restoring 1d4 hit points to the object. If the object has the broken condition, this condition is removed if the object is restored to at least half its original hit points. All of the pieces of an object must be present for this spell to function. Magic items can be repaired by this spell, but you must have a
33:28 <diebot> caster level equal to or higher than that of the object. Magic items that are destroyed (at 0 hit points or less) can be repaired with this spell, but this spell does not restore their magic abilities. This spell does not affect creatures (including constructs). This spell has no effect on objects that have been warped or otherwise transmuted, but
33:28 <diebot> it can still repair damage done to such items.
33:40 <Falang> I considered taking it, but I'm so tight on the number of spells I get, Message won out. Which is probably the most powerful cantrip I noticed.
33:40 <Mekkis> how can that be overpowered?
34:35 <Goya> Restoring heirlooms - that sort of thing.  I admit - I didn't read too far into the spell - it just struck me that it could be OP. 
35:03 <Falang> I'm betting a GM would make you have skill ranks in the appropriate crafting skill to fix something like that
35:11 <Goya> Broken tiara - *bing* - new tiara.  Step 3 - profit. ;) 
35:18 <Mekkis> 10 minute casting time
35:31 <Mekkis> for 1d4 damage
36:19 <Goya> I would love to play - but I'm afraid it would take me a bit too far beyond bedtime. 
36:37 <Nornok> I'm in for a game
36:48 <Falang> Mekkis: this game would be 1st level I hope, otherwise I'm out of luck for now.
36:55 <Mekkis> it would
38:31 <Falang> but I'd be 2nd level at the end of it!
38:55 <Mekkis> if you've played two other games, yes
39:02 <Falang> althogh I can whip up another of these characters if need be.. got a few 1sties on the burner waiting.
39:03 <Mekkis> Nornok, any requests?
39:31 <Goya> Took me hours to get my first character done...
39:57 <Falang> Goya: I used software to get most of it done, way faster, but it's not as complete featwise and whatnot.
40:09 <Falang> ditto on my first
40:26 <Mekkis> still takes me about an hour to get mine done
40:53 <Falang> I'm a little surprsied PF doesn't just whip up some software themselves
41:04 <Goya> I was going to try PCGen next time.  Last char - I posted and I screwed up a dozen different things. 
41:08 <Falang> even if it was web-based and PHP
41:19 <Falang> Goya: That's what I used, seems pretty decent. won't let you forget anything either
41:19 <Mekkis> PCGen lets you screw things up invisibly!
41:28 <Goya> heh
43:20 <Falang> I gotta run to the 7/11 for some sugar, anybody want anything?
44:31 <Mekkis> some scotch
44:33 <Mekkis> the good stuff
44:41 <Mekkis> single malt
44:51 <Falang> strangely enough 7/11 does carry that in Thailand, but maybe not "the good stuff".
45:12 <Goya> Not gonna get it at 7-11. 
45:20 <Falang> I suppose the good stuff is a matter of opinion and taste, so I'll leave that up to you rather than me making the wrong choice.
45:31 <Falang> bbiafm.
45:49 <Falang> besides, if I was gonna buy scotch, which I want very badly now that you said it, I'd get it for MEEE!!
46:13 <Goya> Just pick up some nachos and beer. 
46:25 <Goya> Not as elegant - but gets things done. 
46:31 <Mekkis> :(
47:21 <Falang> nachos?  if only.  this is thailand. they're not that sophisticated. I can get you some cuttlefish chips though. or seaweed sheets. or dried squid.
47:48 <Mekkis> dried squid sounds good
48:14 <Goya> Hrm... Sounds interesting. 
48:26 <Goya> They have slurpees?
49:05 <Goya> Coke and Cherry?
03:41 <Falang> uhh.. hmm. not sure. 
04:00 <Falang> the squid can taste like all kinds of stuff, they flavor it
07:13 <Falang> they are way into these cheapo energry drinks though, stuff probably gives you cancer.
07:40 <Falang> like if red bull was made in china
13:10 <Falang> Mekkis: You're saying PCGen screws stuff up... like what?
13:46 <Falang> I'll admit it's woefully incomplete as far as spells/feats/bloodlines etc.. missing some APG stuff I think.
14:01 <Mekkis> I'm saying that a system like Pathfinder has some grey areas where it's not entirely clear which way something goes.
14:13 <Mekkis> and ANY piece of software has to make a call
14:39 <Mekkis> and if you're depending on said software, then you don't even know that the call's been made
15:39 <Falang> true enough
16:22 <Falang> although, that sounds like a pathfinder problem not a software problem
16:34 <Mekkis> why?
16:47 <Falang> still, it does speed the work up a lot, that's all I need it for. and maybe pretty character sheets
16:52 <Mekkis> that they're not designing a system to cater for everything
17:04 <Mekkis> perhaps, but you can't tell if it's correct...
17:09 <Falang> there shouldn't be any 'grey' areas, or they should be addressed as errata
17:49 <Mekkis> Falang, so, in 3e, how does Enlarge work when you use it on an animal?
17:55 <Falang> I kinda wish pathfinder used Forgotten Realms, *sigh*.
18:00 <Mekkis> with a CL of 3
18:39 <Falang> who knows, I barely played that shit. I'll freely admit that PF is probably a huge improvement over D&D3e/3.5.
19:49 <Falang> oh, one question, that 1st rank in a Class skill gives you 3 points, or 3 points PLUS the 1 rank, making it 4?
20:04 <Mekkis> the latter
20:19 <Falang> okay, thats logical, kinda what I figured.
20:53 <Mekkis> if a skill becomes a class skill after you've taken it, it gets +3
20:53 <Falang> just wanted to make sure, last game I was assuming that silly character sheet thing did the skills properly, which it did not..
21:49 <Falang> for some reason it'll calculate and add in attribute bonuses for skills, and let you add ranks to a skill, and select if something is a class skill or not... but won't apply the +3 when you do. You have to do that manually.
22:12 <Falang> whats the damn point in doing the rest of it!
22:26 <Mekkis> what's the point in using it at all
22:35 <Falang> the website says to? :)
22:54 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/upload.php5
23:28 <Falang> yeah I know you can "upload" your own text sheet, but wtf, I gotta get a template from somewhere, and screw all that typing stuff out by hand.
23:43 <Falang> anyway, I won't use it for that again, didn't get me killed or anything.
24:08 <Mekkis> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheets/Character%20Sheet%20Template%20(Pathfinder%20Society).txt
24:24 <Mekkis> or just find someone's character sheet that looks good
24:27 <Mekkis> and use it
24:36 <Falang> I have that yes, and started using it too when I first did my character, but I hate all that manual number shuffling when I'm new to the system.
34:17 <Falang> WOW
34:30 <Falang> wizards only get 4 spells per level max?!
34:50 <Mekkis> + bonuses for high int
34:57 <Falang> well obviously, but wow.
34:58 <Mekkis> and that's spell SLOTS
35:01 <Mekkis> not spells known
35:04 <Falang> I know
35:10 <Falang> that's just.. a huge huge decrease.
35:16 <Mekkis> sure
35:23 <Mekkis> but they get them all back each day
35:27 <Falang> and they get spell progression a lot faster too.. 9th level spells at 17th level. maxed out at 20.
35:32 <Mekkis> rather than needing to spend MONTHS...
40:37 <Falang> uh huh..
41:14 <Falang> Must be a huge market for rings of spell storing and rings of wizardry
42:51 <Mekkis> !item Pearl of Power I
42:53 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF POWER [strong varies] CL:15 none 235000gp, 5lb
42:53 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/staff_of_power.html
54:12 <Falang> ahhh.. the immovable rod. wonderful item. 2 of those and a decanter of endless water are all i ask!
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00:07 <Falang> hey vald
00:36 <Valdamon> Yo
02:01 <Falang> Mekkis: game, no?
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03:00 <Valdamon> Hunh what..game?
04:14 <Falang> mekkis mentioned doing a game earlier
24:57 <Valdamon> Ah.
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57:11 <Mekkis> niconorsk, any requests
58:27 <niconorsk> No particular requests no.  What do you feel like running? I'll let you know if I've played it
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59:26 <Mekkis> Godsmarket Gamble?
01:01 <niconorsk> :P That one I have played
01:39 <Mekkis> Delirium's Tangle?
05:01 <niconorsk> I honestly thought I would say sure to the first one, but I've played that one too
05:09 <Mekkis> hmmm
06:15 <Mekkis> I could prep and run Devil We Know II, but I'd need to prep it
09:02 <niconorsk> That works. For a request, given that I've played the first two parts with you, how about Shades of Ice III?
09:15 <Mekkis> sure..
09:19 <Mekkis> sounds good...
09:24 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:51 <Mekkis> do we have 4 players?
10:08 <Mekkis> actually, I need to include Ulzef on it
10:16 <Mekkis> seeing as he's been waiting for it
10:48 <niconorsk> I honestly don't think we have 4 players at the mo anyways
11:21 <Mekkis> I'll see if I can't rope Ulzef over here for this evening
16:58 <Falang> I'm good for whatever. Got a fighter and sorc.
17:18 <Falang> and i've barely played anything
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20:53 <Farang> Bleh
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37:51 <Steven> I love the spell liberating command
37:54 <Steven> so good.
38:02 <Mekkis> I agree with you on that, Steven 
39:32 <Mekkis> not only is it good, it fits with the spirit of Andoran... and is pretty balanced
39:46 <Mekkis> I imagine Falang would say it's a "nerfed utility spell" though
41:27 <Steven> pfffffft currently gives my character a +12 on escape artist checks...
41:40 <Mekkis> heh
42:01 <Mekkis> I think you'll find it gives Other Characters +12 on Escape Artist checks :)
42:12 <Steven> not as good as a Litany of escape which just auto outs a character from a grapple/pin
42:23 <Steven> oh sorry, i only ever use it on my Animal companion
42:29 <Mekkis> really?
42:40 <Mekkis> you don't use it on your party members?
42:41 <Mekkis> !spell Litany of escape
42:44 <diebot> Mekkis, LITANY OF ESCAPE conjuration (teleportation[language-dependent]) antipaladin 3, inquisitor 4, paladin 3 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one willing creature that is grappled Comp: V, S, DF Duration: instantaneous Save: no SR:yes
42:44 <diebot> With a powerful prayer, you call upon the servants of your god to whisk a friend out of a grapple. The target loses the grappled and pinned conditions and is teleported 10 feet.
43:28 <Steven> because if they were dumb enough to go infront of my AC with an AC of 35... then they deserve to get grappld
43:43 <Mekkis> two words: Black Tentacles.
44:02 <Steven> if its dildo field then i probably wont be casting.
45:04 <Mekkis> looks like I was half correct this morning
45:13 <Mekkis> Lantern Lodge and Shadow Lodge...
46:31 <Mekkis> and I need to give my VC a very tired signing hand next week
49:22 <Mekkis> damn
49:41 <Steven> you're going to give your VC a handy?:
49:48 <Mekkis> I think Defunct isn't legally allowed to have Quicken Spell-like Ability (Grease)
50:19 <Mekkis> nah, just about 32 pathfinder tales boons for him to sign
50:43 <Mekkis> I am happy that Lantern Lodge is getting the chop
51:54 <Steven> meh
52:18 <Mekkis> unless you can find some "other legal source" that allows Quicken SLA?
52:54 <Steven> i believe quicken sla is a monster feat
53:28 <Mekkis> looks like it
53:31 <Mekkis> yay
54:31 <Steven> than pcs cant take it but ac/familiars can
54:42 <Mekkis> really?
54:56 <Mekkis> so my companion CAN take it?
55:12 <Steven> i believe it can
55:38 <Steven> check forums  for confirmation
56:02 <Mekkis> Sleight of Hand vs Steal Manoeuvre
56:11 <Mekkis> can you explain the difference?
56:41 <Steven> yes, i can.
56:49 <Mekkis> mmm?
59:21 <Steven> pizza is good
00:10 <Mekkis> so if I wanted to steal someone's spell-component pouch, and I was invisible, I could either attempt a Steal Manoeuvre with CMB vs CMD, or sleight of hand with DC20?
01:22 <Steven> no, if you are attempting to steal something from someone it is the steal cm
01:49 <Mekkis> not the "Lift an object from a person" usage of Sleight of Hand?
02:59 <Steven> oh i thought you had during combat up there
03:14 <Steven> yeah then it would either be a cmb or a dc20 soh
03:20 <Mekkis> Sleight of hand says "You cannot use this skill to take an object from another creature during combat if the creature is aware of your presence."
03:38 <Mekkis> this makes me think that if you're invisible, you could use it during combat
03:39 <Mekkis> correct?
03:52 <Steven> obviously ys.
03:52 <Steven> yes
04:13 <Mekkis> hmmm
04:32 <Mekkis> now Defunct is seriously considering getting Skill Focus (sleight of hand)
04:52 <Mekkis> standard action -> invisibility; move action -> sleight of hand to steal
07:41 <Mekkis> completely unrelated question: a familiar's HD is not the same as its master's. What about its CL?
08:13 <Steven> i dunno.
08:20 <Steven> i havent looked into familiars
08:28 <Steven> i got my skunk on my blight druid and thats it
09:07 <Steven> btw, a soh check is a standard action unless you take a -20 to the roll at which point it is a move action
10:00 <Steven> i really need to find a feat for my sylvaan sorc
10:11 <Steven> already have celestial servant and Boon companion
10:28 <Avatar> yo
10:37 <Steven> hey avatar
10:58 <Avatar> unbelievable re shadow lodge eh
11:20 <Mekkis> THE UNION HAS DISBANDED!!!
11:47 <Avatar> looks like you were half correct eh mekkis
11:50 <Avatar> you and nobody else eh
12:03 <Mekkis> I believe kapow was also half-correct
12:04 <Avatar> who could have guessed lantern lodge was one of them
12:17 <Avatar> did anyone not guess lantern lodge
12:24 <Avatar> steven you had the tally
12:43 <Mekkis> I believe Wroth guessed Osirion and Qadira
12:48 <niconorsk> CL for improved familiars is dependent on the familiar, there's a table that defines it in core
13:14 <Steven> I dont believe anyone guessed both Shadow Lodge and Lantern Lodge
13:30 <Avatar> I totally thought I remember mike talking about how the countries shouldn't be factions
13:46 <Avatar> i don't think anyone guessed shadow lodge and anything else
13:59 <Avatar> shadow lodge ftw :((
14:56 <niconorsk> Kinda wanna make a shadow lodge character and try to get it to 3 to run the going away scenario with it
15:57 <Steven> i went and chcked
16:10 <Steven> no one guessed both of them
16:41 <Steven> so, no one gets the pot
17:04 <Avatar> yeah but did anyone guess shadow lodge for one of them
17:17 <Steven> no
17:22 <Ulzef> hello all
17:29 <Avatar> I think mike and his crew should reconsider
17:42 <Steven> Though if i had gotten to guess it would have been shadow and lantern lodge for me.
17:51 <Avatar> Ulzef: rumour has it your slaver's faction is going to become a reality
18:03 <Avatar> you wouldn't have guessed either
18:04 <Ulzef> huzzah
18:39 <Ulzef> actually latern and shadow were the two i called if they were able to hit two new factions
19:08 <Avatar> you called silver crusade 
19:31 <Ulzef> no i said osiriani latern and shadow
19:45 <Ulzef> they were never hitting silver because they need the good faction'
20:02 <Ulzef> and i prayed for andoran because i hate them
20:31 <Avatar> damn andorans
20:47 <Avatar> they don't need a good faction
20:52 <Steven> i prayed so hard too ulzef
20:57 <Avatar> andorans were the good faction until they realised we don't need them !
21:13 <Mekkis> Ulzef, I thought you preyed on Andoran
21:31 <Mekkis> what's Helmid going to do?
21:34 <Ulzef> yeah but they have always been the chaotic good faction they just didnt used to call them that
21:45 <Steven> the only reason andorans are around is because the sheep that are new american players hear that anti-slavery demcracy and get all retarded over it
21:54 <Ulzef> Helmid is silver crusade
22:00 <Steven> and nearly auto join the faction
22:02 <Mekkis> I thought he went Union
22:26 <Mekkis> or was that Gitch's character
22:30 <Ulzef> nope he hates the union the union and androran were the factions i said i would never go
22:43 <Avatar> do any of you have shadow lodge/lantern lodge chars
22:46 <Mekkis> hey... Who's up for Shades of Ice III
22:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, I do
22:50 <Ulzef> nope gitch is qadiran one of his lower characters might be
22:57 <Avatar> who are they
23:01 <Ulzef> i have 1 lantern lodge
23:01 <Mekkis> I have Heneski, Formerly Nightmare
23:05 <Steven> I have 1 LL character, and 3 SL characters.
23:09 <Mekkis> and I'm very happy about it
23:20 <Mekkis> (happy about Lantern Lodge being disbanded)
23:51 <Steven> they arent being disbanded they just wont be available to PCs
23:55 <Avatar> yeah I was desperate to ditch lantern lodge
24:01 <Farang> Shadow here too
24:02 <Mekkis> either way, I get to change his faction
24:08 <Avatar> Snickers is shadow lodge :|
24:26 <Ulzef> i think latern was the logical choice they made sense in season 3 but havn't since then
24:28 <Mekkis> so, snickers should embrace Cheliax!
24:56 <Ulzef> Sneakers should inbrace the spirit of freedom
25:00 <Avatar> it doesn't fit her concept
25:08 <Avatar> haha yes!
25:24 <Mekkis> has she adventured with Ulzef?
25:31 <Avatar> don't think so
25:34 <Mekkis> she's adventured with Itzamna
25:41 <Steven> okay... so feat for my sylvaan sorc
25:53 <Ulzef> she has we went to the green market together
25:53 <Avatar> yeah but Itzamna did the opposite of what Ulzef did for Buck
25:55 <Mekkis> Steven, merciful spell
26:13 <Avatar> Ulzef got Buck through a special, Itzamna nearly got Snickers killed in a scenario
26:15 <Ulzef> when i opened my stall there
26:32 <Mekkis> ah
26:54 <Avatar> actually Snickers is against slavery
26:55 <Steven> mekkis thats a crappy spell...
27:04 <Mekkis> feat, you mean?
27:06 <Avatar> so maybe that wouldn't work
27:17 <Avatar> (but she's not going andoran, because andoran is shit)
27:28 <Avatar> I've learnt my lesson in choosing shit factions
27:29 <Steven> metamagic whatever
27:33 <Mekkis> ag crusade
27:50 <Steven> thats a horrible metamagic
28:52 <Mekkis> so, a 20' Steel Dry Cargo Container weighs 2.4 tons (metric)
29:21 <Mekkis> or 5,140 lb
29:47 <Avatar> actually I'm really not sure what to change to
30:00 <Avatar> sczarni maybe
30:03 <Mekkis> steel's density is 503 lb/cu ft
30:06 <Ulzef> default to GL?
30:24 <Mekkis> so total volume is under 11 cubic feet
30:30 <Mekkis> !spell shrink object
30:32 <diebot> Mekkis, SHRINK ITEM transmutation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3 1 standard action Range: touch one touched object of up to 2 cu. ft./level Comp: V, S Duration: 1 day/level; see text Save: Will negates (object) SR:yes (object)
30:32 <diebot> You are able to shrink one nonmagical item (if it is within the size limit) to 1/16 of its normal size in each dimension (to about 1/4,000 the original volume and mass). This change effectively reduces the object's size by four categories. Optionally, you can also change its now shrunken composition to a clothlike one. Objects changed by a shrink
30:32 <diebot> item spell can be returned to normal composition and size merely by tossing them onto any solid surface or by a word of command from the original caster. Even a burning fire and its fuel can be shrunk by this spell. Restoring the shrunken object to its normal size and composition ends the spell. Shrink item can be made permanent with a permanency
30:32 <diebot> spell, in which case the affected object can be shrunk and expanded an indefinite number of times, but only by the original caster.
30:48 <Mekkis> So I could shrink a shipping container!
30:55 <Mekkis> http://www.evergreen-marine.com/tei1/images/20(2SD).jpg
31:04 <Mekkis> how much livestock would fit in there?
33:59 <Avatar> GL doesn't fit her at all
34:06 <Avatar> how could you go from SL to GL
34:07 <Steven> a 20ft steel cubic container is 8k ft^3
34:09 <Avatar> that's like the polar opposite
34:56 <Mekkis> Steven, but I'm only shrinking the steel, not the air inside it
35:01 <Ulzef> she was disallusioned by the shadow lodge and found out they are all the same anyway so she might as well work for the man?
35:31 <Mekkis> and the steel that I'm shrinking is less than 11 cubic ft
36:34 <Steven> it doesnt quit work that way mekkis, if you shrink the container you compress the space within the container as well
36:41 <Mekkis> ok
36:46 <Mekkis> I'll get an open-top container
36:52 <Mekkis> there. No space within
36:53 <Steven> meaning you still have to account for it in the allotment of shrinkage
37:48 <Avatar> she wasn't disillusioned
37:53 <Avatar> you're disillusioned
37:57 <Mekkis> after getting that brand on her
38:07 <Mekkis> "I am Lissala's bitch"
38:26 <Avatar> Lissala's witch, maybe
38:44 <Mekkis> I know what!
38:54 <Mekkis> Refuse to participate in ANY faction missions!
39:11 <Avatar> you can do that with nightmare
39:17 <Mekkis> they ALL discriminate against those with green skin
39:21 <Mekkis> Nightmare is no more!
39:43 <Avatar> they don't discrimine when I use that prestige I'm going to get them
39:44 <Mekkis> he changed name, class, abilities, feats, and now factions!
39:48 <Avatar> discriminate*
40:46 <Steven> i dont believe you get to change factions until season 5
40:56 <Mekkis> true
41:02 <Mekkis> he needs to play Way of the Kirin
41:05 <Avatar> I'd say she'll be retired by then, but my high level characters have been high level for years
41:07 <Steven> i sadly didnt get to listen to the whole podcast as i was forced to start pfsing
41:11 <Mekkis> so Avatar you GMing for PAXoz?
41:17 <Avatar> when is that
41:31 <Mekkis> did you hear what Mike said about "anyone playing PFS now"?
41:35 <Avatar> + more importantly is it in melbourne
41:36 <Mekkis> 17-19 July
41:39 <Mekkis> in Melbourne
41:58 <Avatar> haven't heard anything about it
42:14 <Mekkis> PMed you the details
42:23 <Mekkis> I imagine you'll want to tell your VC
42:30 <Mekkis> (this also might apply to Ulzef)
42:43 <Avatar> does he not know
42:48 <Avatar> does that mean it's not actually happening there
44:06 <Ulzef> huh what should i know
45:18 <Avatar> someone has told mekkis there's been a callout for GMs, they want to know who is interested, if you are it's a free pass into the con and whoever it is needs to know by tonight
46:18 <Ulzef> what days is it on and i will i wanted to go but they had sold out before i could get a ticket
46:24 <Ulzef> i'll gm to get in
46:42 <Avatar> have they sold out already
46:48 <Avatar> this is the first I have even heard about it
47:02 <Avatar> how are players going to get in if they have sold out
47:11 <Ulzef> i was told they sold out day 1 truth be told i never looked after i heard that
47:17 <Avatar> did they think this through
47:28 <niconorsk> Hang on, there's going to be PFS at PAX? 
47:39 <Avatar> only GMs, no players
48:26 <Falang> that'll be a lot of GMs sitting around saying "so what do you do?" for a few hours
48:38 <niconorsk> Those are not the PAX dates if so
52:14 <Mekkis> niconorsk, PAX AU
54:09 <niconorsk> I know, the one in Melbourne which is on from 19-21 July, not 17-19
54:35 <Mekkis> oh
55:05 <Ulzef> melbourne one is 19-21 looking at the site right now
55:45 <Mekkis> who's the grippli in your fleet, Ulzef?
55:49 <Mekkis> what's his name?
55:53 <Ulzef> 17-19 would be wednesday to friday
56:09 <Ulzef> i forget he was the npc is the cyper mage
56:39 <Avatar> did you recruit an npc
56:46 <Mekkis> you were there, Avatar!
56:49 <Mekkis> I think...
56:55 <Avatar> I haven't played cypher mage
56:58 <Mekkis> oh?
57:10 <Ulzef> yeah i told him i would let him live if he sailed for my fleet
57:11 <Avatar> it ran when I was running disappeared at conquest
57:27 <Mekkis> ummm... we played it at Conquest 2012
57:29 <Mekkis> or was it Arc?
57:35 <Avatar> yeah, not me
57:36 <Ulzef> this was at ark last year i think
57:44 <Mekkis> I remember that
57:50 <Avatar> don't ask me what I played instead, I don't remember that far back :P
57:52 <Mekkis> I was powerlevelling Itzamna
59:25 <Ulzef> did you get my pm earlyer mek
59:30 <Mekkis> yep
59:48 <Ulzef> :P kk wasnt sure cause ya didnt answer
00:17 <Mekkis> when are you free for SOI III this week or next week?
01:35 <Ulzef> Sat if your game doesnt happen and would have to work out times for sunday
01:49 <Mekkis> was thinking of weekday/weeknight
01:58 <Ulzef> will be home by 6pm on friday as well but you FNM so that prob doesnt work
02:05 <Mekkis> good news! Kapow will be getting his internets back soon
02:27 <Mekkis> unfortunately: there's this thing called a WMCG this weekend and a Prerelease next weekend
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19:07 <spider21b> hi
19:08 <Mekkis> Avatar, it's not a legal feat
19:24 <Avatar> if steven says it's legal it must be legal
19:27 <Mekkis> !feat weapon focus
19:29 <diebot> Mekkis, WEAPON FOCUS [Combat]Prereq:  Proficiency with selected weapon, base attack bonus +1.  Choose one type of weapon. You can also choose unarmed strike or grapple (or ray, if you are a spellcaster) as your weapon for the purposes of this feat.
19:30 <spider21b> xd
19:30 <diebot> Benefit:  You gain a +1 bonus on all attack rolls you make using the selected weapon.
19:30 <diebot> Special:  You can gain this feat multiple times. Its effects do not stack. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new type of weapon. Source: Core
19:42 <spider21b> yep
19:50 <Mekkis> you can choose a weapon, an unarmed strike, grapple, or ray
19:52 <Mekkis> not touch
21:15 <spider21b> hey i forgotten how to play a wizard need to study up for saterday
21:47 <Ulzef> beleave a touch is a unarmed that doesn't provoke also you can take it for natural weapons and they arn't mentioned
23:04 <Ulzef> hey steven you would prob know is there anyway to get cha mod to anytype of attack or damage rolls?
23:06 <Steven> yeah im taking the ray, sorry had to go grab the phone
23:43 <Steven> i have spectral hand for touch attacks and its already at a +2 bonus
25:33 <Steven> yes
26:14 <Steven> there is
26:14 <Ulzef> how ?
26:14 <niconorsk> Smite evil. :)
26:14 <Steven> paladin for smite evil
26:14 <Steven> and mysterious Stranger
26:14 <Ulzef> well other than smite i ment a constant
29:26 <spider21b> bye for now guys
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31:02 <Steven> leveling up my animal companion now
33:41 <Steven> AC of 30/13/27
34:49 <Mekkis> I think it's been ruled that Snowball isn't a "ray"
36:33 <Steven> is that being argued somewhere?
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36:56 <Mekkis> no?
37:00 <Mekkis> I thought it was decided
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38:06 <Steven> penelope finally has a strength bonus!
38:18 <Steven> only one more level and she gets a daze attack
38:27 <Mekkis> what is she?
39:00 <Steven> ankylosaurus
39:35 <Steven> whenever she hits, Fort DC18 or be dazed for a round
39:45 <Steven> on a crit its save or be stunned for 1d4
39:49 <Mekkis> ooh
39:50 <Mekkis> wow
39:54 <Mekkis> nice
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40:06 <Steven> 10+1/2HD+str
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41:38 <Mekkis> what book's that from?
42:15 <Steven> beast1
44:05 <Mekkis> wow
44:09 <Mekkis> that's a high AC
45:10 <Steven> its a tank
46:37 <Steven> next level she goes up to 31AC, and 35 if i throw shield on her, 38 if i put barkskin on her
46:48 <Mekkis> barding I'm assuming
46:50 <Steven> 40 if i protection from alignment her
46:51 <Ulzef> its the secound highest you csn get only thing that beats it is the giant snapping turtle and its not PFS legal
47:10 <Steven> yeah just chain shirt barding
47:14 <Mekkis> roc is near the top?
47:40 <Mekkis> I remember running a query after sniffing d20pfsrd for animal companions
48:00 <Steven> i could put more armor on her
48:03 <Ulzef> think they are fairly close
48:28 <Ulzef> but they get hampered by not being able to wear heavy barding
48:32 <Steven> but thats more feats and then she doesnt get the Acrobatics
49:26 <Steven> her weak point is vs touch and her CMD
49:51 <Steven> which is why i prepare Liberating command
50:01 <Steven> +12 to her escape artist
50:12 <Mekkis> I'm assuming that being large isn't an issue?
50:54 <Steven> I dont really see it as one
51:13 <Steven> because when she is large im going to get a saddle and ride her
51:22 <Steven> okay not really
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52:14 <bugboy> i hate bugs, i collect them then torture them. ive been doing this for years but found this youtube video that made me think twice. i dont want to die like this guy...  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0LUs7Ae3xc
52:27 <bugboy> btw  ddddddddddddddd n ddddddd
52:29 <Mekkis> that's disgusting
52:30 <bugboy> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
52:34 <Steven> oh you sneaky bastard
52:37 <bugboy> d n ddddddddddddddddddddd
52:49 <bugboy> yo party fockerssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
52:51 * dicebot sets ban on bugboy!*@*
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53:32 <Steven> i dont really think its going to be a problem being large
53:59 <Ulzef> i take it not clicking on the vid is the wisest thing to do
54:27 <Mekkis> incorrect
54:45 <Mekkis> click on the link, then report the video as a copyright infringement and send a DMCA takedown
55:03 <Farang> Wtf
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57:24 <spider21b> at what level is it good to muitclass at?
57:48 <Mekkis> spider21b, 18
58:11 <Mekkis> (actually, it depends what character/concept you have. But 18 is a good level to consider it)
58:40 <Ulzef> 3
59:08 <Mekkis> spider21b, what's your concept?
59:12 <Ulzef> most of the dip classes you take 2 lvls in
59:19 <Mekkis> 20, if you're planning on taking a level of rogue :)
59:37 <Ulzef> monk,rogue,fighter,paladin are all good for a 2 lvl dip
59:38 <Farang> :-P 
59:53 <Mekkis> depends on the character
00:01 <spider21b> will spell book i was thinking a wizard who misses his father who was a fighter and wants to be more like him
00:04 <Ulzef> i like the 2 lvl rogue dip gets you evasion and a feat 
00:25 <spider21b> with wizard i dont want to take too many dips
00:32 <Mekkis> s/too many/any/
00:36 <Farang> Ulzef - ditto
00:38 <Ulzef> looking at the eldritch knight prestige?
00:39 <spider21b> jyep
00:40 <spider21b> yep
00:47 <Steven> martial classes are certainly easier to multiclass with
00:52 <Mekkis> spider21b, leave it to as late as possible
01:21 <Steven> I almost multiclassed with my Life Oracle
01:29 <Mekkis> (as in, I'd take it at 6th level)
01:31 <Steven> was going to take a 1 level dip into Cleric
01:37 <spider21b> gotcha
01:49 <Mekkis> and you'd need to choose fighter/ranger/paladin
01:56 <Steven> then i would have 11 channels for 10d6 and 9 channels for 3d6
01:58 <Mekkis> I'd suggest Ranger, but I'm not sure what your concept is
02:13 <Mekkis> or Cavalier?!
02:16 <Mekkis> !!
03:14 <spider21b> is there a way to become an Eldritch Knight without a level of fighter?
03:21 <Mekkis> yes
03:24 <Mekkis> level of ranger
03:27 <Mekkis> level of paladin
03:31 <Mekkis> level of cavalier
03:38 <spider21b> only ranger?
03:45 <spider21b> shit awesome
03:55 <Ulzef> you forgot barb
04:02 <Ulzef> it counts as well
04:06 <Mekkis> meh
04:12 <spider21b> true barb
04:15 <spider21b> a wizard barb thougth wouldn't work
04:38 <spider21b> i could see a level of ranger or fighter
04:55 <spider21b> ranger gets more stuff same deal with paladin
05:37 <Mekkis> level of Low Templar
05:51 <Mekkis> level of Golden Legionnaire
06:09 <Mekkis> level of Metal Oracle
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12:23 <Mekkis> 13 levels of summoner
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15:05 <Mekkis> I think Metal Oracle is your best bet
15:22 <Mekkis> !feat Theurgy
15:24 <diebot> Mekkis, THEURGY []Prereq:  Wis 13, Int or Cha 13, able to cast 1st-level arcane spells, able to cast 1st-level divine spells.  You can blend the power of arcane and divine magic.
15:24 <diebot> Benefit:  You can augment the power of your divine spells with arcane energy and augment your arcane spells with divine energy. When casting a divine spell, you may sacrifice an arcane spell slot or arcane prepared spell of that spell's level or higher as a swift action. The caster level for that divine spell increases by +1. When casting an
15:25 <diebot> arcane spell, you may sacrifice a divine spell slot or prepared divine spell of the same or higher level as a swift action. Half the damage dealt by the arcane spell becomes holy (if you channel positive energy) or unholy (if you channel negative energy). Source: UM
22:49 <Steven> I now has Haste
23:08 <Ulzef> goog old lvl 6
23:20 <Ulzef> good*
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24:24 <Ulzef> have you got boon companion yet because now i think of it that could have been a good feat if you didnt
24:24 <Steven> i dont really want to take it, but im a pathfinder
24:40 <Steven> yes, i have boon companion and Celestial Servent
25:55 <Steven> so i have a Celestial Dinosaur
26:28 <Steven> that now has DR 5/evil and 10 Acid, Cold, and Electricity resistane
26:40 <Steven> Has darkvision
26:44 <Steven> can smite evil
26:56 <Steven> and has Spell rsistance
27:05 <Steven> also known as pretty awesome
28:05 <Steven> im not sure how to determine its CR though
33:18 <Steven> ah found something from JJ
33:40 <Steven> Animal companions, mounts, familiars, and the like do not have CR scores. Use your character's CR (this equals your character's total character level minus 1) instead as the SR baseline.
35:26 <Steven> so SR10
36:25 <Steven> i just really dont like my Weapon focus ray
36:46 <Steven> but there really isnt any other choice that fits in character concept
37:11 <Steven> i guess toughness for 6hp wouldnt be bad
39:07 <niconorsk_> What is the concept apart from sorcerer with Dino?
40:23 <Steven> nature oriented arcane caster
42:24 <Steven> i considered taking green faith acolyte
42:36 <Steven> but it does nothing for my character
44:04 <niconorsk_> What spells are you typically casting?
45:09 <Steven> false life, shield, liberating command
47:37 <niconorsk_> Not spells that gain much from metamagic then. :P
48:12 <Steven> not really
48:52 <Steven> if i was able to i'd go into some green faith acolyte or something like it.
49:11 <Steven> but they specifically list divine spellcasters
53:14 <niconorsk_> Maybe there are some bloodline powers that could be useful to you and you could go the elfritch heritage route?
53:26 <niconorsk_> *eldritch
54:39 <Steven> hmmm.... lets go see
55:43 <niconorsk_> The tanglevine from verdant bloodline sounds cool and fits the concept pretty well
57:21 <Steven> yeah if only i hadnt built my character to have been captured by some slavers and sold to some chelaxians who then used me in a botched sacrifice burnt my arms chest and most of my face off
57:42 <Steven> ie str of 7
57:58 <niconorsk_> Why does your strength matter?
58:19 <niconorsk_> You use sorc level+cha instead of CMB
58:25 <Steven> it means she doesnt attack people
58:34 <Steven> its what the gods sent Penelope for, to protect her.
01:08 <niconorsk_> Hmm, ok, well, in terms of buffing your AC there's Touch of Destiny in the Destined bloodline
01:38 <Steven> wonder if these would be increased by the arcane heritage chest thing
02:18 <Steven> !item arcane heritage
02:19 <diebot> Steven, ROBE OF ARCANE HERITAGE [moderate necromancy] CL:9 body 16000gp, 1lb
02:20 <diebot> These elegant, dark purple robes are usually decorated with gold stitching suggesting a particular sorcerer bloodline, though some might indicate a family tree. When a sorcerer dons a robe of arcane heritage, the stitching pulls itself apart and reweaves to match her particular sorcerer bloodline. The wearer treats her sorcerer level as 4 higher
02:20 <diebot> than normal for the purpose of determining what bloodline powers she can use and their effects. Source: Ultimate Equipment
02:43 <niconorsk_> RAW I don't see why they wouldn't
04:49 <Steven> could take the Arcane bond from the arcane bloodline
08:05 <niconorsk_> More companions seems legit
08:28 <Steven> no, i would be forced into taking the Bonded item
10:08 <niconorsk_> Why?
12:12 <niconorsk_> And if thats the case, two feats for an extra spellslot hardly seems worth it
12:30 <niconorsk_> Although you would get discounted upgrades I suppose
13:27 <Steven> because the improved version of heritage is metamagic adept
14:13 <Steven> which would allow me to throw out a buff spell as a standard action where i would take say an extend metamagic and have a double lenth haste
15:27 <niconorsk_> Sure, although I'm not seeing how that forces you to take a bonded itme
17:20 <Steven> How many animals can I have at any given time? 
17:20 <Steven> During the course of a scenario, you may have one combat animal and as many noncombat animals as you like. Noncombat animals (ponies, horses, pet dogs, and so on) cannot participate in combat at all. If you have so many noncombat animals that their presence is slowing a session down, the GM has the right to ask you to select one noncombat animal and leave the rest behind. A summoner's eidolon is 
17:20 <Steven> considered an animal companion for the purposes of counting combat and noncombat animals. If you have more than one class-granted animal companion (or eidolon), you must choose which will be considered the combat animal at the start of the scenario. In general, a mount, a familiar or mundane pet, and your class-granted animal(s) are acceptable, but more than that can be disruptive.
18:21 <Steven> so there would be no point in having both an animal companion and a familiar because only one of them would be allowd to participate in combat.
20:29 <niconorsk_> Hmm, good point. The discount on bonded item upgrades is actually pretty sweet
21:30 <Steven> yeah it is
21:44 <niconorsk_> I'm a bit grumpy about arcane bond at the moment, my wizard got access to a faerie dragon familiar but has a bonded item so can't use it. :(
22:48 <Steven> like say... a ring of spell knowledge
23:21 <Steven> where i teach the ring the wonderful spell of Strong Jaw... and then cast it on my animal companion increasing its damage dice by two size catagories
23:56 <Steven> at 7th level the damage dice are 2d6
27:53 <Steven> you know....
28:01 <Steven> i should decide what they were trying to sacrifice me for
28:05 <niconorsk_> Need to find a ranger to cast strong jaw for you though
28:13 <Steven> ranger or druid
28:46 <Steven> i know a couple druids who have the spell
28:47 <niconorsk_> Arcane spells that do not appear on the wearer’s class list are treated as one level higher for all purposes (storage and casting).
29:00 <niconorsk_> The druid version would be a 5th level spell
29:16 <Steven> i dont think most rangers know of the spell
29:37 <Steven> hmmmm.... what did they want to sacrifice me for.
31:26 <niconorsk_> As an alternative until you find a 10th level ranger with the spell is to get greater magic fang
32:35 <Steven> did they want to summon forth an evil outsider onto the plane
32:46 <Steven> or were they trying to talk it out of a boon
35:16 <Steven> i mean, really whats a good nefarious purpose you would ned to sacrifice a person for
35:50 <Steven> because i think i could work it into my story that since the ritual was botched and i managed to get away that the ritual infused me with some small measure of its power
37:14 <Steven> which means it would have to be one of the more evilish bloodlines
37:52 <niconorsk_> On Golarion? It seems juman sacrifice can be used for most purposes. :P
38:11 <Steven> Abyssal, accursed, daemon, infernal, oni, orc(?), rakshasa, shadow, undead
41:03 <Steven> its a pity i cant pick some of the wildbloodd bloodlines
42:55 <niconorsk_> touch of rage from orc would be a nice AC buff for sure
43:26 <Steven> i know
43:49 <Falang> mine is Rakshasa
44:00 <Steven> but why would chelaxians summon something that would infuse a person with orcish powers?
44:28 <Steven> I mean i guess they could try to summon some orcish diety
45:04 <niconorsk_> From the orcs of golarion blurb, that would be the Blood God
45:25 <Steven> yeah
45:36 <Steven> try to wrest some power from it
45:51 <Steven> and instead it blew up in their faces
46:20 <Steven> and because i was the vessal it was acting through at the time it slapped me with some orcish taint
46:30 <Steven> I like it!
47:08 <Steven> so.... skill focus Survival is what i need
47:54 <Steven> then next level i can touch my mount and give it +3 to attacks, rolls and will saves for 1 round 7 times per day
48:40 <Steven> oh snap! with my arcane heritage robes, +4!
49:21 <niconorsk_> +5 actually
50:37 <Steven> no its 1/2 my level, so at level 7 the ability kicks in at -2 dropping me to 5 and then robes bump it to 9
52:10 <niconorsk_> Ah, forgot about the -2 from eldritch
53:02 <Steven> yeah, but the robes should counter act that which makes it awesome
54:03 <niconorsk_> Indeed, you get to be immune to fear at 11 if you want too
55:05 <Steven> yup at level 11 i also get the wonderful ability Fey Wings
55:23 <Steven> witch reduces my size catagory by one and givs me a fly speed of 60
55:43 <Steven> which even
56:25 <Steven> now i just need 8 more prestige to get the vest
56:49 <Steven> i would have it if i hadnt applied module credit to the character
00:33 <Steven> i really dont wanna pick haste as my third level spell.... i should just pick up a scroll with two charges for 2 prestig
03:02 <Steven> i could just get Mad Monkeys... that spell is so fun
06:00 <niconorsk_> That just seems hilarious
06:59 <Steven> heh.....
07:03 <Steven> okay i like this spell too
07:09 <Steven> !spell call the void
07:13 <diebot> Steven, CALL THE VOID evocation ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: Reflex for half; see text SR:yes
07:13 <diebot> This spell surrounds you with an aura of nothingness that channels the mysterious energies of the Dark Tapestry. Creatures adjacent to you when this spell is cast and at the start of your turn take 2d6 points of damage. In addition, creatures affected by your aura are fatigued, cannot breathe, and cannot speak or cast spells with somatic
07:13 <diebot> components. Creatures adjacent to you are allowed a Reflex save to halve the damage and negate the fatigue effect, but cannot breathe or speak regardless of whether their save is successful as long as they are adjacent to you.
24:52 <Falang> HMMMM... I wonder... considering a sorc/witch split..
26:46 <Steven> rquires two different stats and really dont cross over well.
28:32 <Falang> I've got a decent int
30:35 <niconorsk_> You could go for sage bloodline to use int instead of cha for your sorcerer stuff
31:30 <Steven> OH YEAH! Ankylosaurus start with of course the barding and neck slots, but can take the xtra item slot for bel chest eyes and headband
37:51 <Steven> oh and the belt slot is a saddle so im looking to see if theres any good saddles
38:07 <Falang> I'm fine with the Rakshasa bloodline, he gets some nice spells and abilities from that.
40:09 <Steven> hahahaha, i might get a war saddle and put it on penelope
40:19 <Steven> and let people ride her
42:20 <Steven> awwwww that sucks there are only 2 magical saddls
42:23 <Steven> saddles
49:17 <Steven> alright goin to take a nap, see you guys in a few hours
52:57 Steven has quit (Quit: )
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41:14 niconorsk_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
52:24 Mort- ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
52:28 <Mort-> Hm
58:28 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+4
58:28 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+4: [1d20=1] 5
58:41 <Mort-> !throw 3d6
58:42 <diebot> Mort-, 3d6: [3d6=3,4,6] 13
58:58 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+13
58:58 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+13: [1d20=11] 24
59:08 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8
59:09 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+8: [1d20=8] 16
59:29 <Mort-> !throw 1d12+17
59:29 <diebot> Mort-, 1d12+17: [1d12=2] 19
01:18 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
01:18 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=2] 9
01:37 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+15
01:38 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+15: [1d20=3] 18
02:11 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+6
02:11 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+6: [1d20=2] 8
02:20 <Mort-> !throw 3d6
02:20 <diebot> Mort-, 3d6: [3d6=3,6,2] 11
02:59 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+13
03:00 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+13: [1d20=18] 31
03:02 <Mekkis> HEY Mort- 
03:12 <Mekkis> The Union got disbanded, and the Lantern Lodge is breaking up!
03:13 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8
03:13 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+8: [1d20=12] 20
03:17 <Mort-> Ow
03:23 <Mort-> Ya
03:35 <Mort-> !throw 2d12+24
03:35 <diebot> Mort-, 2d12+24: [2d12=6,4] 34
03:56 <Mekkis> I'm considering a trip to Singapore
03:59 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+7
04:00 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+7: [1d20=6] 13
04:06 <Mort-> Grats
04:07 <Mekkis> when's your next big gameday/con
04:18 <Mort-> !throw 6d6
04:18 <diebot> Mort-, 6d6: [6d6=1,6,6,3,5,2] 23
04:46 <Mort-> We pfsing on Tuesday wed Sat and Sunday
04:55 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+6
04:56 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+6: [1d20=10] 16
05:09 <Mort-> Ok I'm so dead.
05:14 <Mekkis> what happened?
05:20 <Mort-> Never mind
05:31 <Mort-> Don't mind me I'm just fooling around
05:47 <Mort-> Its the two attacks that kill me
06:00 <Mekkis> !item Dream Journal of the pallid seer
06:01 <Mekkis> !!
06:02 <Mort-> Lets try again
06:04 <diebot> Mekkis, DREAM JOURNAL OF THE PALLID SEER [no aura (or faint divination)] CL:3 none 600gp, NULLlb
06:04 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/dream_journal_of_the_pallid_seer.html
06:10 <Mekkis> what are you simulating?
06:27 <Mort-> What happens when i try to toe to toe a fighter
06:40 <Mort-> I'm going nova mode and i still go down first
06:41 <Mort-> Sigh
06:44 <Mort-> That's depressing
06:46 <Mekkis> you know, you could give me the fighter's sheet and we could try it out
07:01 <Mort-> No we weret almowdd to look at sheets
07:09 <Mort-> I know he has 76 hp
07:18 <Mort-> And does 1d12+17 per hit
07:25 <Mort-> Don't ask me how he got that one
07:34 <Mort-> That's all i Kenya
07:36 <Mort-> Know
07:43 <Mort-> We both level 6
08:02 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+15
08:03 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+15: [1d20=6] 21
08:11 <Mekkis> magus?
08:18 <Mort-> Yes
08:26 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8
08:26 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13
08:32 <Mekkis> PFS?
08:41 <Mort-> Yes
09:26 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+13
09:27 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+13: [1d20=6] 19
09:38 <Falang> huhwhat?
09:42 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:51 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+8
09:52 <diebot> Mort-, 1d20+8: [1d20=15] 23
10:03 <Mekkis> level 6...
10:07 <Mekkis> greataxe
10:10 <Mort-> !throw 1d12+17
10:10 <diebot> Mort-, 1d12+17: [1d12=5] 22
10:33 <Mort-> Man its fking painful
10:36 <Mekkis> 22 str = +9, power attack = +6, +2 weapon, +1 weapon training
10:48 <Mekkis> that's 1d12+18
10:55 <Falang> hey mort. who ya killing?
10:59 <Mort-> Using 2 handed
11:05 <Mekkis> yeah
11:09 <Mort-> More like trying not to get killed
11:17 <Mort-> +1 weapon
11:19 <Mekkis> replace it with a +1 weapon and you've got +17
11:25 <Mort-> Yes
11:29 <Mort-> So. 
11:32 <Mekkis> Mort-, going toe-to-toe will get you killed
11:35 <Mekkis> grease the weapon
11:39 <Mort-> I know
11:56 <Mekkis> grapple
11:57 <Mort-> Uh actually i was going to fight dirter then that
12:08 <Mort-> No. His cmd > mine
12:17 <Mort-> I was going to fly...
12:29 <Mort-> He said no holds barred
12:30 <Mekkis> cloudkill
12:40 <Mort-> No
12:43 <Mekkis> feeblemind
12:54 <Mekkis> pit
12:55 <Mort-> Buying stuff for duel is strictly forbidden
12:58 <Mort-> Rules.
13:02 <Mort-> I have no pit
13:19 <Mort-> You fight on your own inventory list
13:27 <Mekkis> could I see your sheet?
13:34 <Mort-> Should you choose to buy items you bring them adventurgmg
13:36 <Mort-> Why
13:42 <Mort-> I'm a level 6 magus
13:44 <Mekkis> to give you suggestions
13:50 <Mort-> What do you want to know
13:57 <Mekkis> spells known
13:58 <Mort-> Think i got it down pat
14:03 <Mort-> Listen up mek
14:06 <Mekkis> int
14:11 <Mort-> Round 1 vanish
14:18 <Mort-> 16 int 16 str
14:25 <Mort-> Fly 30 ft up
14:30 <Mort-> Evil eye until i hit the saves
14:38 <Mort-> Slumber. Coup de grace
15:04 <Mekkis> you can do that?
15:14 <Mort-> Why not?
15:16 <Mekkis> if you slumber, don't they wake the start of your next turn?
15:23 <Mekkis> so no chance to coup de grace?
15:24 <Mort-> 6 turns
15:31 <Mort-> Rounds/level
15:45 <Mort-> Slumber is rounds/level
15:46 <Mekkis> I'm pretty sure that's not the case
16:07 <Mort-> What?
16:10 <Mekkis> oh
16:17 <Mort-> Dude
16:32 <Mekkis> it's misfortune that's one round
16:45 <Mekkis> my bad
17:04 <Mekkis> how are you flying up?
17:06 <Mort-> *flaps Mekkis with her tail*
17:06 <Mekkis> flight hex?
17:11 <Mort-> Yes
17:15 <Mort-> Issues?
17:25 <Mekkis> can't do it the same turn you vanish
17:26 <Mort-> The whole world knows i can fly
17:33 <Mort-> I can't yes
17:40 <Mort-> But he can't see me
17:44 <Mekkis> true
17:48 <Mort-> Lots of time for me to plan it out
17:58 <Mekkis> so effectively, you need to win initiative
18:01 <Mort-> That's what vanish is for to gain air time
18:06 <Mort-> Not really
18:07 <Mekkis> or he does a charge -> grapple?
18:16 <Mort-> Ie said he is fighting me at 100 ft
18:29 <Mekkis> ah
18:29 <Mort-> I don't know how he's going to charge in full plate...
18:30 <niconorsk> I assume you know you're not fighting a half-elf. :)
18:40 <Mort-> He is human
18:54 <Mort-> Has at least 1 level barb
19:02 <Mort-> And its bright light we fighting by
19:11 <Mort-> So don't tell me darkness and alter self
19:22 <Mekkis> didn't think that would work
19:31 <Mekkis> barbarian in fullplate?
19:34 <Mort-> Deeper darkness would
19:40 <Mort-> But no scrolls allowed
19:58 <Mort-> Invulnerable rager has no uncanny dodge to lose
20:09 <kapow> So what factions got cut?
20:13 <Mekkis> still fast movement
20:18 <Mort-> After deeper darkness use alter self to change into half orc. Can see in the dark
20:20 <Mekkis> Lantern lodge and the Union
20:25 <Mort-> They like being tin camp
20:29 <Mort-> Cans
20:31 <kapow> the union?
20:33 <Mort-> Shadow lodge
20:43 <kapow> ah okay
21:02 <kapow> 50% right ain't bad, not surprised they went
21:04 <Mort-> If i get grappled ill try to grease myself
21:05 <Mekkis> any cons in Singapore in the next month or two?
21:11 <Mort-> No
21:17 <Mort-> Last one was easter
21:18 <Mekkis> I'd think you'd have a familiar for that
21:33 <Mort-> Not 7 no grease allowed
21:42 <Mort-> Besides i won't get improved familiar
21:45 <Mort-> Too cheese.
21:58 <kapow> so mekkis my backup for tsar is a were
22:02 <Mekkis> my Lantern Lodge character has Riddywipple
22:04 <Mekkis> really?
22:06 <Mekkis> what type?
22:13 <Mekkis> Riddywipple the tattoo!
22:13 <kapow> bear
22:17 <Mort-> I can cast from a vibrannt cracked purple prism
22:18 <kapow> lawful good
22:25 <kapow> flood okayed it
22:27 <Mekkis> wow
22:29 <Mort-> Acts like a ring of spell storing
22:41 <kapow> only bear though
22:43 <Mort-> And yes I'm really going to bring that stuff along with me
22:45 <kapow> cause of the alignment
22:56 <Mort-> 2 times of black tentacles is enough thank yo
23:01 <kapow> and I have to deal with the rest of it
23:09 <Mekkis> "rest of it"
23:16 <Mekkis> you mean you're an afflicted lycanthrope?
23:18 <kapow> but it's a true lycanthrope not a afflicted
23:23 <kapow> so no howling at the moon
23:32 <Mekkis> just biting party members
23:46 <kapow> no none of that
23:56 <Mekkis> mem
23:58 <Mekkis> meh
23:59 <Mort-> But what do i do if slumber fails
24:04 <Mekkis> Arjuna's immune
24:05 <kapow> but he is going to be a Huge bear in animal form ^_^
24:11 <Mekkis> Mort-, ranged attacks?
24:17 <Mort-> Trying to think of back up plans
24:27 <Mort-> He has a composite long bow
24:29 <kapow> I plan on bringing it in if Michael dies to tank the dragon.
24:33 <Mort-> That I'm going to grease
24:59 <Mort-> His longbow has str +4 on it
25:14 <Mort-> So if we do a shoot out its going to suck still
25:35 <kapow> I don't know how long he'll live though
25:45 <Mekkis> Sleight of hand while invisible?
25:52 <Mort-> I was considering sundering his bow
25:58 <Mekkis> you planning on attacking the dragon?
26:06 <Mort-> Its an attack roll i become visible
26:22 <Mort-> And i don't have any ranks in that stuff
26:23 <kapow> well I think the party will consider it once majority lvl 11
26:28 <kapow> I don't think the others will before then
26:39 <kapow> thats just what i think of the others.
26:48 <kapow> I honestly don't mind I am game.
27:24 <Mort-> Will take me at least 2 strikes to blow the bow
27:38 <kapow> only thing is I am lvl 8
27:43 <kapow> cause of the LA 1
27:47 <Mort-> He probably carries back up javelins as well
28:03 <kapow> what size was the dragon mekk?
28:28 <kapow> Huge or bigger?
28:29 <Mekkis> Mort-, Sleight of Hand while invisible a) isn't an attack roll; and b) is DC20, not DC=CMD
28:38 <Mekkis> Huge, I think
28:57 <Mort-> I have no ranks in that
29:02 <Mekkis> oh 
29:03 <Mekkis> pity
29:06 <Mort-> +1 lol
29:06 <kapow> hahahaha XP
29:12 <kapow> I will be able to grapple it XP
29:15 <Mort-> I'm not a thief
29:24 <Mekkis> Mort-, if you're facing Mytiazair, expect to see half of your items disappear
29:36 <Mort-> Lol
29:37 <kapow> !roll 1d20+27
29:45 <kapow> !throw 1d20+27
29:48 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+27: [1d20=20] 47
29:52 <Mekkis> nice
29:55 <kapow> ^_^
29:58 <kapow> !throw 1d20+27
29:59 <Mort-> I can fight nat attack style too
29:59 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+27: [1d20=9] 36
30:16 <Mort-> Tooth and claw
30:37 <kapow> !throw 2d8+24+2+18+8+4
30:39 <diebot> kapow, 2d8+24+2+18+8+4: [2d8=7,2] 65
30:43 <Mort-> I could disarm his bow
30:52 <kapow> !throw 1d20+27
30:54 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+27: [1d20=8] 35
31:00 <Mekkis> I wonder how you'd go against Heneski
31:04 <Mekkis> probably pretty well
31:16 <kapow> !throw 1d8+12+2+9+4+2
31:17 <Mort-> Me?
31:18 <diebot> kapow, 1d8+12+2+9+4+2: [1d8=5] 34
31:20 <Mekkis> yeah
31:30 <Mekkis> I have a 6th level PFS character
31:32 <Mekkis> Heneski
31:35 <Mekkis> formerly Nightmarew
31:38 <Mort-> Badly
31:41 <Mekkis> you'll be very happy about him
31:45 <kapow> !throw 1d8+18+4
31:46 <Mekkis> oh
31:47 <diebot> kapow, 1d8+18+4: [1d8=2] 24
31:48 <Mort-> You hash more brains then me
31:50 <Mekkis> that reminds me
31:50 <Mort-> why
31:58 <kapow> !throw 1d20+27
31:59 <Mekkis> remember Battering Blast?
32:00 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+27: [1d20=8] 35
32:04 <Mort-> I'm not gaming here.
32:07 <Mort-> Yes
32:16 <kapow> !throw 2d6+10+2+9+4+2
32:17 <Mort-> I was the one who pulled out that stuff
32:17 <diebot> kapow, 2d6+10+2+9+4+2: [2d6=3,5] 35
32:19 <Mekkis> well.... I was playing Bonekeep
32:26 <Mort-> Yes
32:27 <Mort-> And?
32:30 <Mekkis> and I was planning on bringing Heneski
32:32 <kapow> !throw 1d20+31 Grapple
32:33 <diebot> kapow, Grapple: [1d20=9] 40
32:34 <Mort-> Book got thrown at you?
32:38 <Mekkis> so I built him like that
32:43 <kapow> thats a full round mekkis ^_^
33:05 <Mekkis> but ultimately, I was convinced that I should instead bring Kernigahn my cleric
33:15 <Mekkis> anyway
33:18 <Mort-> Ok
33:19 <kapow> 134 Damage plus a 40 to grapple
33:20 <Mort-> So?
33:22 <Mekkis> you know who WROTE Battering Blast?
33:33 <Mort-> One of the players
33:45 <Mort-> He should be proud of you for using the spell
33:51 <Mekkis> Matt Goodall
34:16 <Mort-> So
34:17 <Mekkis> > Subject: RE: Bonekeep - Wednesday 6pm Blackburn!
34:17 <Mekkis> >
34:17 <Mekkis> > Heneski has see invisibility and glitterdust, as well as Liberating
34:17 <Mekkis> > Command, and his fair share of blasting (CL10 battering blast is scary in
34:17 <Mekkis> > its effectiveness...)
34:25 <Mekkis> I twitch every time I hear of battering blast, I wrote the original version
34:25 <Mekkis> that was completely different to the overpowered version they put into
34:25 <Mekkis> Dungeons of Golarion.
34:25 <Mekkis>  
34:25 <Mekkis> Matt
34:42 <Mort-> Lol
35:10 <Mort-> Hm how do you disarm without provoking an aoo
35:15 <Mekkis> ... And this is written by the guy who wrote lovely scenarios that include:
35:26 <Mort-> One way is to provoke. Then do it
36:39 <kapow> think a +31 to grapple will be enough to get the dragon mekk?
36:53 <Mort-> Read bestiary
37:31 <kapow> The campaign doesn't exactly adhere to beastiary i am fairly certain
38:42 <Mekkis> Before Combat NPC casts false life, greater magic weapon (unarmed strike), mage armor, overland flight, and protection from arrows on himself at the start of each day. When an alarm spell triggers, NPC casts spells on himself in this order: protection from energy (fire), resist energy (electricity), heroism, stoneskin, blur, alter self, mirror image, owl's wisdom, expeditious retreat, protection from good, shield, displacement, haste, and transformation
38:42 <Mekkis> . (All are included in his statistics.)
39:11 <Mort-> Oh dear
39:17 <kapow> any off now i know who went
39:39 <Mekkis> even he says that the spell is "overpowered"
40:02 <Mort-> Unfortunately the beat sticks locally use adamantium weapons
40:21 <Mort-> And say what you want about them they hit pretty much most of the time
41:13 <Mekkis> at level 7?
41:20 <Mort-> Yes
41:28 <Mekkis> did I mention that that guy has monk levels
41:29 <Mort-> They played up and got it at 6
41:48 <Mort-> Fairly obvious or no weapon focus unarmed strike
42:10 <Mort-> What level is he
42:18 <Mekkis> 12
42:20 <Mort-> At least level 9 wizard
42:28 <Mekkis> but hey
42:35 <Mort-> I take it low fort?
42:36 <Mekkis> I should run this scenario
42:46 <Mekkis> you can take it like that
42:46 <Mort-> 7-11?
42:50 <Mekkis> you'd be wrong
42:58 <Mekkis> module
43:07 <Mort-> Monk wizard..no idea.
43:13 <Mort-> Can't be low will saves
43:20 <Mort-> Unlikely reflex.
44:27 <Mekkis> I think you'd enjoy this scenario
44:31 <Mekkis> ummm
44:32 <Mekkis> module
45:16 <Mort-> Lol
45:26 <Mort-> I think I'm fked
45:45 <Mekkis> you're saying that the entire fight boils down to...
45:49 <Mekkis> him failing a will save?
46:09 <Mort-> I have nothing that hits that hard
46:30 <Mort-> Unlike most wizards i don't have  24 int
48:11 <Mekkis> who's "he" in this regards?
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