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00:17 <Mekkis> did you do the same sort of thing for Blood under absalom?
00:43 <Steven> in blood under absolom we cut out irrelevant storyline, and switched the order of a few things around, and made things more challenging at the higher tables.... which didnt fucking matter because kyle elliot showed up with his banishment/dismissal/dominate person/monster cleric
01:01 <Steven> and just destroyed every damned encounter
02:19 <Steven> a group of aspis agents charge into the room, roll initiative... oh kyle goes first because he has like +11 to initative... i mass dominate... i command you all to go home
02:44 <Steven> GM: Okay they leave.... you grab the rune and leave... combat and challenge over
03:08 <Steven> it was seriously my least favorite game i have GMed
03:12 <Mekkis> somewhat like what Team Ninja was doing 
03:27 <Mekkis> although there was more breaking in on top-floor windows
03:55 <Steven> sure... if it basically just ruined every bit of challenge
04:11 <Steven> the last fight where we had Elder Elementals show up at the 10-11 table
04:13 <Mekkis> not really: there's always suspense when housebreaking
04:40 <Steven> he just dismissal/banishment every round
04:51 <Steven> that the elementals showed up
04:57 <Mekkis> how did the 5-6 table handle it?
05:18 <Steven> i got one person to be bloodied by a charge critical from an elder earth elemental
05:25 <Steven> and then it was gone
05:37 <Steven> one of the lower tables had some trouble
05:51 <Steven> 3-4 got the shit beat out of them
06:09 <Steven> melissa TPKd her group
06:49 <Mekkis> what level?
06:52 <Steven> but to be honest they did stupid shit
06:54 <Steven> 3-4
07:03 <Mekkis> how so?
07:16 <Steven> they tried diploing out of a fight with the aspis consortium
07:31 <Steven> and the aspis made a bluff check of sure, we give up here you go
07:34 <Steven> and initiated a surprise round
07:56 <Steven> and the healer went and grabbed the item and got killed in one round as everyone attacked them
08:08 <Mekkis> not sure why you'd say that's "stupid"
08:12 <Steven> and then the rest of the party just got fucked up because they had no heals
08:28 <Mekkis> they didn't identify themselves
08:41 <Steven> actually they did...
09:01 <Steven> they started talking and had a nice dialog going
09:24 <Steven> followed up by not saying to the other group, drop the statue and get going we will pick it up later
09:50 <Steven> instead they had the medium armor healer walk up and grab the item
10:48 <Steven> it was just a bunch of bad decisions... stupid decisions that probably shouldnt have happened
10:59 <Steven> which resulted in them getting fucked up
11:02 <Mekkis> heh
11:27 <Mekkis> is Toughness a feat tax?
12:10 <Steven> no, only two of my characters have it
13:25 <Steven> Selective channeling fits neatly into that catigory imo
13:33 <Steven> because if you dont take it people treat you like you are retarded
14:37 <Mekkis> Kernigahn won't take it
16:11 <Mekkis> "If you don't want them to wake up, kill them"
21:25 <Mekkis> !ring of transposition
21:30 <Mekkis> !itemring of transposition
21:33 <Mekkis> !item ring of transposition
21:41 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF TRANSPOSITION [moderate conjuration] CL:10 ring 10800gp, 0lb
21:41 <diebot> On command, the wearer of this ring can touch it to another ring, magical or mundane, and bind it to the ring of transposition. Once per day, the wearer of the ring of transposition can speak a command word to exchange places with the creature wearing the bonded ring, which must be within 800 feet, as though using a dimension door spell against a
21:41 <diebot> willing target. In the process, the ring of transposition trades places with the ring on the other creature's hand, and the bond between the rings is broken. The bonding property of the ring of transposition can be used as often as desired, breaking any existing bond each time it is used. An existing bond can be broken by a successful dispel check
21:41 <diebot> against the caster level of the ring. Source: Ultimate Equipment
22:58 <Mekkis> could I shove the bound ring on someone else's finger
28:53 <Steven> um.... i suppose if they were helpless yes you could
39:18 <Sutekh> or unluckily as I feel it
39:34 Avatar has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
39:34 <Sutekh> Brunius: hmm... what did I think
39:38 * Sutekh ponders
40:08 <Sutekh> I think it had too much combat, there was far too much conditional bs and it had a . a race card thing? .. what the hell
40:26 <Brunius> Race card thing?
40:51 <Sutekh> My final question is: How does climbing a brick wall and finding the secret route in the same time, enable me to bypass a garden party and a fruit cart?
40:57 <Ballig> where you have to chase something and you use cards
41:10 <Brunius> Oh, that
41:11 <Sutekh> (As you can see I find the whole concept totally preposterous)
41:20 <Brunius> Yeah I was a little disappointed in that
41:22 <Ballig> they have a couple of ways to get past obstacles to keep in the race
41:24 <Ballig> I don't like them very much
41:27 <Brunius> Esp. after that bloody imp blazed it
41:30 <Sutekh> I will say one thing. My GM was good
41:33 <Ballig> especially when you get obstacles that fuck over a certain class
41:36 <Sutekh> Thats about all I can say was Good about the module
41:44 <Sutekh> aparty from the fact I cannot play it again thankfully
42:37 <Sutekh> Apparently we were screwed by the DM rolling 20 for init
42:51 <Sutekh> and none of us beat him. So We were glitterdusted, webbed and sleet stormed
43:13 <Brunius> :(
43:21 <Sutekh> and we lost our Maggot... (which I didnt know is Slang for Magus)
43:23 <Ballig> spoilers
43:28 <Sutekh> (Thats what the guys in Melbourne call them)
43:42 <Brunius> Last I checked that isn't what we call them
44:01 <Sutekh> You might want to check again then :)
44:12 <Sutekh> 6/7 people i talked to about the class called them a Maggot
44:13 <Brunius> Maybe, maybe
44:31 <Sutekh> I was just called OP or a Gunslinger
44:49 <Sutekh> Which I didnt mind. I OP'd two monsters where everyone else was being downed or cut up
45:14 <Sutekh> I find people tend to call you OP when you arnt helping them directly
45:21 <Sutekh> and then shut up after you save their ass
45:50 <Sutekh> I did enjoy Murders Mark a lot with my Barbarian.
46:24 <Sutekh> my new Barbarian.... found it really easy to roleplay his totemistic nature
47:01 <Sutekh> and as i was saying to Ballig earlier I met Alastair and Matt Goodall. Matt in particular was interesting to talk to.
49:28 <Sutekh> and now I can definetly and without hestiation say that Ballig and Avatar are not the same person
49:43 <Ballig> how do you know
49:51 <Ballig> you didn't meet us both
50:25 <Sutekh> Because I could tell the difference in the voice from meeting him in person
50:39 <Ballig> what if we sound the same in person
50:52 <Sutekh> then the mystery will continue
54:43 <Steven> hmmmmm the brock just layed down the hammer on some dude on the forums
55:10 <Steven> also spoiled the fact that the pathfinder society is becomming more Good aligned rather than neutral
56:55 <Brunius> They do sound the same in person
57:02 <Brunius> I can confirm that they sound the same in person
57:34 <Sutekh> heh
57:45 <Sutekh> No.. my mind is made up now
59:38 <Sutekh> Hello
00:14 <Tashes> Hihi!
00:31 <Tashes> and Hi Mekkis :) 
00:34 <Sutekh> heh.. I didnt expect a response
00:43 <Sutekh> I dont think Mekkis is there
00:57 <Tashes> He'll get it eventually. He messaged me the other night but i was sleepin'
00:59 <Sutekh> or rather he isnt 'active' hes just logged in
01:05 <Sutekh> ahh
02:21 <Sutekh> The others have returned to silent mode
03:06 <Brunius> Have we
03:07 <Brunius> Have we really
03:13 <Brunius> Maybe we're just talking behind you
04:22 <Sutekh> could be
04:38 <Sutekh> So were you at the Con, Tashes?
04:40 <Steven> there we go, updated the character sheet
07:49 <Sutekh> wb
08:17 <Brunius> What if I told you I was never gone
08:28 <Brunius-> Never
08:48 <Ballig> what if I told you that Morpheus never says "what if I told you"
09:08 <Tashes> I wasn't at any con recently
09:15 <Brunius> What if I told you I didn't care
11:53 <Sutekh> ahh you idled out
11:53 <Sutekh> got it
11:59 <Sutekh> Tashes: Do you think Gunslingers are OP?
12:26 <Steven> 2 more games and honey can fly
14:18 <Avatar> not when you compare them to other classes that are OP
15:03 <Sutekh> Howdy Avatar
15:09 <Avatar> yo
15:15 <Avatar> the only truly OP class is synthesist
15:27 <Sutekh> Was good to put a face to the name
15:47 <Avatar> how long are you in melb
15:50 <Avatar> are you still here
16:27 <Sutekh> lol yeah
16:32 <Sutekh> Im still here but not by choice!
16:35 <Steven> i wanna play the harrowing... i was told it was rather fun
16:42 <Sutekh> Plane was delayed from 3pm till 8pm
16:58 <Sutekh> Im currently sitting at one of those internet cafe computers
17:09 <Sutekh> killing time
17:24 <Avatar> forget that, stay longer
17:30 <Ballig> just move to Melbourne
17:33 <Ballig> dont' even go back to Perth
17:36 <Ballig> do you have a job? call them now and tell them you quit
17:44 <Sutekh> to do what?
17:46 <Avatar> yeah
17:50 <Avatar> to do pathfinder society
17:53 <Sutekh> and Yes I do have a job
17:59 <Ballig> yeah, PFS will be your full time job
18:01 <Sutekh> I sorta enjoy what I do
18:14 <Sutekh> No.. after Race I dont want PFS to be a full time job
18:23 <Avatar> jesus
18:30 <Sutekh> It sorta burnt me a bit on Society
18:32 <Avatar> andrei set up the game he wants me to run on warhorn 3 hours ago
18:36 <Avatar> it already has 4 players
18:41 <Sutekh> heh
18:48 <Sutekh> That damn Andrei! :)
19:08 <Sutekh> He should be forced to keep wearing that basket on his head
19:46 <Sutekh> It surprised the hell outta me that there are no organised games in the cbd area of melbourne
19:51 <Sutekh> with all that game space there
20:43 <Steven> yeah play the harrowing, get from 10.1 to 11.1, play two games then eyes of the ten
21:07 <Sutekh> Ballig: What surprised me more is that there just didnt seem to be many players there for Society. In fact Arcanacon itself seemed to be down players from memory. Race only had 3 tables, i was expect 5-6
21:36 <Steven> i suppose i could play curse of the riven sky... more monies
21:58 <Sutekh> Im going to go back and report back to my VC that we can indeed run Race then. (We were under the impression that it had a 5 table min)
22:06 <Steven> would take me to 64k
22:10 <Avatar> there are, sometimes
22:17 <Avatar> blackburn has just been the default
22:29 <Steven> play two games... buy the Scepter of heaven
22:30 <Avatar> I don't like the city because it means I need public transport to get there instead of driving
22:40 <Sutekh> ahh
22:47 <Sutekh> Id catch Public transport all the time If I could
22:52 <Sutekh> Its one reason Id move to Melbourne
23:00 <Avatar> yeah I used to think that
23:31 <Ballig> it's nice to have the option
24:49 <Sutekh> I drive about 50 min one way and 50 min back to games at the moment back in Perth
24:58 <Sutekh> If I could train it directly to them I would
25:10 <Sutekh> Possibly not only if I was dming
25:33 <Sutekh> Im not sure Mekkis could game anywhere without his RPG Car. The amount of books that guy lugs around will give him Arthritis
26:30 <Steven> or... not buy anything and purchase a +5 manuel of Leadership for 137k
26:35 <Steven> at the end of eyes of the ten
26:47 <Steven> bring my charisma to 30
28:53 <Brunius> He gets me to carry them
28:55 <Brunius> :S
29:10 <Sutekh> And you say yes ...because?
29:20 <Brunius> because I get paid
29:24 <Sutekh> ahh
29:25 <Brunius> in magic cards, and touch screens
29:45 <Sutekh> So he is essentially your .. sugar daddy?
30:07 <Brunius> I have no idea what that means
30:55 <Sutekh> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_daddy
31:32 <Sutekh> I didnt exactly use it in the normaly concept but essentially you are doing something for a reward
31:47 <Sutekh> damn keyboard
31:48 <Steven> choices... choices
32:20 <Brunius> Well equally you could liken a job to that
32:31 <Brunius> You are doing something for a reward
32:50 <Ballig> is the thing you're doing sex
32:52 <Ballig> because if it is, that's a sugar daddy
34:46 <Brunius> Is that all your mind comprehends, Ballig
34:51 <Brunius> Because it seems to come up a lot
34:54 <Ballig> we're talking about sugar daddies
34:56 <Ballig> that's what they are
35:14 <Ballig> if we were talking about ice cream salesmen I'd be bringing up sale of ice cream
35:29 <Sutekh> and thats another reason I know you are not Avatar. He would never talk about such things.
35:40 <Ballig> yeah he does
36:59 <Ballig> you guys can't bring up a discussion about sugar daddies and then all target me for mentioning sex
37:07 <Avatar> yes we can
37:17 <Brunius> Of course we can
37:20 <Sutekh> I second Avatar's opinion!
37:21 <Avatar> nobody abuses it like you do
37:38 <Avatar> not even brunius who usually goes too far with these things
39:41 <Ballig> that's a bit unsubstantiated
41:46 <Avatar> oh it's substantiated
42:15 <Sutekh> Perhaps he needs an intervention
42:21 <Brunius> Yeah I think he does
42:29 <Brunius> We should all drive to canberra for it
42:32 <Avatar> brunius I think you should host it
42:41 <Brunius> Nah
42:47 <Brunius> We should just show up in his house one day
42:47 <Avatar> host the intervention brunius
42:53 <Brunius> Gimme a sec, I'll get the address
43:29 <Brunius> Yeah there it is
43:31 <Brunius> Let's go
43:34 <Brunius> Avatar you're driving
44:55 <Avatar> I'll be busy GMing sorry
45:08 <Brunius> no i mean now
45:16 <Avatar> I don't think there's time now
45:26 <Brunius> what
45:29 <Brunius> why not
45:32 <Brunius> We could be there by 4am
46:05 <Ballig> how slow will you be driving
46:15 <Brunius> the speed limit
46:18 <Sutekh> He wont be driving at Mekkis speed
46:29 <Avatar> does mekkis drive slow
46:32 <Sutekh> That guy takes Corners like Eddie Murphy in Beverly Hills cop
46:51 <Brunius> huh
46:53 <Brunius> 6 hours
47:00 <Brunius> why did I think it was 9
47:03 <Sutekh> As in he drives fast
47:05 <Brunius> We could be there by 1am, Avatar!
47:20 <Sutekh> and he takes corners very tight
48:21 <Sutekh> Mekkis is also strangely very attached to making his own coffee with his own kettle
49:48 <Avatar> with my kettle, you mean
49:53 <Sutekh> lol
49:59 <Sutekh> That was yours?
50:05 <Avatar> yeah I bring in green tea
50:19 <Avatar> tristen is a big fan of it too
50:25 <Sutekh> wait.. hes giving away touchscreens and stuff but didnt provide his own kettle?
50:38 <Avatar> he's giving away touchscreens?
50:44 <Sutekh> apparently
50:46 <Avatar> all he gave me was a scenario
50:50 <Avatar> where's my touchscreen
51:09 <Sutekh> Talk to Brunius
51:29 <Sutekh> Im off to read for a while before the flight
51:34 <Sutekh> only 2 hours to go!
52:32 <Brunius> You're an adult Avatar
52:38 <Brunius> You can therefore buy your own
52:46 <Brunius> (I don't know what his logic is)
53:06 <Avatar> did he really give you a touchscreen
53:18 <Brunius> Apparently it is
53:21 <Brunius> I haven't tested it yet
53:21 <Avatar> was there a deal behind that or what
53:31 <Brunius> "It was in the CSR skip"
53:47 <Avatar> jesus
54:44 <Brunius> I don't know if it even works
59:45 <Avatar> why wouldn't you try it
03:23 <Brunius> Not enough graphics ports
32:37 <MekkisScreen> Avatar
32:43 <MekkisScreen> you didn't want one
32:57 <MekkisScreen> there were two in the csr skip
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45:14 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Jan 29 06:46:13 2013
45:14 <***> Buffer Playback...
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45:39 <Steven> didnt really like the bloodrush thing
45:55 <Steven> where you discard and then shit gets big EoT
46:14 <Steven> but borborymogos mechanic was pretty kick ass
46:39 <Mekkis> it looked largely uninspiring
46:42 <Steven> i plan on abusing the hell out of that in EDH
46:54 <Mekkis> Sutekh didn't punch Goodall?
46:56 <Mekkis> that's a pirt
46:58 <Mekkis> pity
47:22 <Steven> pretty much... they are setting up one or two guilds to be the favorites
47:48 <Steven> Boros, azorious or however its spelled
48:02 <Steven> maybe one other
48:16 <Steven> control magic, and lifegain burn....
48:17 <Steven> yay
48:38 <Mekkis> ortzov?
48:59 <Steven> meh....
49:00 <Mekkis> Steven, you played or run Race for Runecarved key?
49:00 <Steven> i dunno
49:06 <Steven> depends on how people tinker with it
49:24 <Steven> No, i have not played or run it... however i am aware of what happens in it
50:05 <Mekkis> what about other specials?
50:35 <Steven> ive played/GM'd the other specials
51:03 <Mekkis> do you think that tier 5-6 is not very enjoyable?
51:50 <Steven> I should warn you... I have never played/GM'd a special thats been ran as written
52:24 <Steven> we have always changed little things in them
52:36 <Mekkis> little things?
52:38 <Mekkis> example?
52:40 <Steven> like cut out irrelevant storyline
52:43 <Steven> changed final boss encounters
52:50 <Steven> you know... little things
52:53 <Steven> lol
53:02 <Steven> okay, year of the shadow lodge
53:08 <Mekkis> how did you run Blood under Absalom?
53:56 <Steven> final 'fight' we split into two groups, one group fought the nasty dragon outside that was buffed to hell and back
54:20 <Steven> and one went inside to fight the... whatever the hell it was person
54:27 <Mekkis> makes sense
54:48 <Steven> in the normal mode each table fights/bypasses the dragon
54:59 <Steven> and then goes inside to fight the guy inside
55:07 <Mekkis> I know
55:21 <Steven> instead we fought a dragon with 2200hp
55:28 <Mekkis> who decided that?
55:38 <Mekkis> and didn't someone just say SoD off?
56:02 <Steven> with CL 20 Stoneskin, and a few nasty spell like abilities
56:05 <Steven> nope, we were all for it
56:10 <Steven> it was an event customized for us
56:19 <Mekkis> who customised it?
56:28 <Mekkis> and by SoD off, I mean Save or Die
57:10 <Steven> Kyle Elliot and the VC at the time, with some imput from mike brock, SKR, and MM
57:35 <Mekkis> nice. why didn't they release it like that?
57:39 <Steven> the vc at the time was named jarvis i think
58:29 <Steven> because it was originally designed to be run for 10-however many tables
58:51 <Steven> like at gen con where this year they are going to do 150 tables all at once
59:23 <Steven> if they did it how we did it, you would spend roughly 4 hours completing one turn
59:53 <Mekkis> is that stuff available?
59:59 <Steven> the way we did it only works with less than 30-40 people
00:08 <Steven> you mean the customized version of the fights?
00:12 <Steven> no, it was a one time thing
00:22 <Mekkis> ah
00:48 <Mekkis> did you do the same sort of thing for Blood under absalom?
01:14 <Steven> in blood under absolom we cut out irrelevant storyline, and switched the order of a few things around, and made things more challenging at the higher tables.... which didnt fucking matter because kyle elliot showed up with his banishment/dismissal/dominate person/monster cleric
01:32 <Steven> and just destroyed every damned encounter
02:50 <Steven> a group of aspis agents charge into the room, roll initiative... oh kyle goes first because he has like +11 to initative... i mass dominate... i command you all to go home
03:15 <Steven> GM: Okay they leave.... you grab the rune and leave... combat and challenge over
03:38 <Steven> it was seriously my least favorite game i have GMed
03:43 <Mekkis> somewhat like what Team Ninja was doing 
04:00 <Mekkis> although there was more breaking in on top-floor windows
04:26 <Steven> sure... if it basically just ruined every bit of challenge
04:41 <Steven> the last fight where we had Elder Elementals show up at the 10-11 table
04:44 <Mekkis> not really: there's always suspense when housebreaking
05:11 <Steven> he just dismissal/banishment every round
05:22 <Steven> that the elementals showed up
05:28 <Mekkis> how did the 5-6 table handle it?
05:49 <Steven> i got one person to be bloodied by a charge critical from an elder earth elemental
05:56 <Steven> and then it was gone
06:08 <Steven> one of the lower tables had some trouble
06:22 <Steven> 3-4 got the shit beat out of them
06:39 <Steven> melissa TPKd her group
07:20 <Mekkis> what level?
07:22 <Steven> but to be honest they did stupid shit
07:24 <Steven> 3-4
07:34 <Mekkis> how so?
07:47 <Steven> they tried diploing out of a fight with the aspis consortium
08:01 <Steven> and the aspis made a bluff check of sure, we give up here you go
08:05 <Steven> and initiated a surprise round
08:27 <Steven> and the healer went and grabbed the item and got killed in one round as everyone attacked them
08:40 <Mekkis> not sure why you'd say that's "stupid"
08:43 <Steven> and then the rest of the party just got fucked up because they had no heals
08:59 <Mekkis> they didn't identify themselves
09:12 <Steven> actually they did...
09:32 <Steven> they started talking and had a nice dialog going
09:54 <Steven> followed up by not saying to the other group, drop the statue and get going we will pick it up later
10:21 <Steven> instead they had the medium armor healer walk up and grab the item
11:18 <Steven> it was just a bunch of bad decisions... stupid decisions that probably shouldnt have happened
11:30 <Steven> which resulted in them getting fucked up
11:33 <Mekkis> heh
11:58 <Mekkis> is Toughness a feat tax?
12:41 <Steven> no, only two of my characters have it
13:55 <Steven> Selective channeling fits neatly into that catigory imo
14:04 <Steven> because if you dont take it people treat you like you are retarded
15:08 <Mekkis> Kernigahn won't take it
16:42 <Mekkis> "If you don't want them to wake up, kill them"
21:57 <Mekkis> !ring of transposition
22:01 <Mekkis> !itemring of transposition
22:05 <Mekkis> !item ring of transposition
22:12 <diebot> Mekkis, RING OF TRANSPOSITION [moderate conjuration] CL:10 ring 10800gp, 0lb
22:12 <diebot> On command, the wearer of this ring can touch it to another ring, magical or mundane, and bind it to the ring of transposition. Once per day, the wearer of the ring of transposition can speak a command word to exchange places with the creature wearing the bonded ring, which must be within 800 feet, as though using a dimension door spell against a
22:12 <diebot> willing target. In the process, the ring of transposition trades places with the ring on the other creature's hand, and the bond between the rings is broken. The bonding property of the ring of transposition can be used as often as desired, breaking any existing bond each time it is used. An existing bond can be broken by a successful dispel check
22:12 <diebot> against the caster level of the ring. Source: Ultimate Equipment
23:30 <Mekkis> could I shove the bound ring on someone else's finger
29:22 <Steven> um.... i suppose if they were helpless yes you could
55:14 <Steven> hmmmmm the brock just layed down the hammer on some dude on the forums
55:41 <Steven> also spoiled the fact that the pathfinder society is becomming more Good aligned rather than neutral
05:11 <Steven> there we go, updated the character sheet
12:57 <Steven> 2 more games and honey can fly
17:05 <Steven> i wanna play the harrowing... i was told it was rather fun
21:13 <Steven> yeah play the harrowing, get from 10.1 to 11.1, play two games then eyes of the ten
22:07 <Steven> i suppose i could play curse of the riven sky... more monies
22:36 <Steven> would take me to 64k
22:59 <Steven> play two games... buy the Scepter of heaven
27:01 <Steven> or... not buy anything and purchase a +5 manuel of Leadership for 137k
27:06 <Steven> at the end of eyes of the ten
27:17 <Steven> bring my charisma to 30
32:18 <Steven> choices... choices
47:06 <Steven> there are a ton of druid archtypes...
47:18 <Steven> most of them are iffy... but a few of them are real gems
48:41 <Steven> sorry wrong place to type that
38:23 <mib_rmugee> Hello
51:12 <mib_rmugee> ??
52:20 <Ballig> sup
54:16 <mib_rmugee> Hola
54:21 <mib_rmugee> What up?
54:30 <Ballig> tired zzz
55:16 <mib_rmugee> Why online so early then?
55:26 <Ballig> it's 9am, that's not early
56:16 <mib_rmugee> Then why Tired?
59:16 <Ballig> went to bed at 3am
59:26 <mib_rmugee> ahh
59:51 <mib_rmugee> After the fairly average Race for the Runecarved key, i went to a bar and watched the 20/20
00:16 <mib_rmugee> i think i have to admit, its probably one of the poorest games of pathfinder i have ever playerd
00:19 <mib_rmugee> played even
00:40 <Ballig> was that the special at Arcanacon this year?
00:48 <mib_rmugee> Yeah
01:18 <mib_rmugee> The gm was great. Ryan was his name
01:28 <Ballig> is he the melbourne VL?
01:36 <mib_rmugee> But the module itself... im not a fan of the chase card thing
01:41 <mib_rmugee> Ballig: Yeah
01:46 <Ballig> he's been in here a few times
01:59 <mib_rmugee> cool
02:29 <mib_rmugee> i think i annoyed him a bit with my Gunslinger ... which was bad on my end. Reading out damage too quickly
02:43 <Ballig> gunslingers are OP
03:08 <mib_rmugee> How did i knw you were going to say that
03:19 <Ballig> because they are! :p
04:43 <mib_rmugee> and i found out a new name for magus
04:46 <mib_rmugee> maggot aparently
04:49 <Ballig> ha
04:55 <Ballig> magus can be quite cheesy
05:15 <mib_rmugee> and i didnt know Halflings were called Slips
06:07 <mib_rmugee> I was trying to convince th Paladin of Abadar to kill the Diabolist's imp.
06:19 <mib_rmugee> i dont think he was listening to me though
07:07 <mib_rmugee> there is some seriously... not nice people in society though. Slavers and diabolists
07:23 <Ballig> was that defunkt
07:45 <mib_rmugee> i know they are legal ideas and all but from a purely roleplaying perspective these guys need to get removed
08:09 <mib_rmugee> i think the diabolist was deceasd
08:15 <Ballig> yeah, his imp is defunkt
08:42 <mib_rmugee> it's  Kens character
08:49 <Ballig> that's Mekkis (in this channel)
08:58 <mib_rmugee> i know
09:26 <mib_rmugee> i finally put faces to both Avatar (who is softly spoken) and mekkis
11:36 <mib_rmugee> As for the slaver guy... he apparently had his ship Vanity as an Andoran flagged ship called the Spirit of Freedom which was a slave ship 'Because slavery is legal almost anywhere'
11:48 <Ballig> ha
11:57 <Ballig> moral relativism
12:42 <mib_rmugee> Whereas my Eagle knight just took the anti slaver vanity
13:01 <mib_rmugee> So our roleplaying issues were intense
13:13 <Ballig> should make for interesting games
13:31 <mib_rmugee> i think he only plays in melbourne so i probably may not see him again
13:50 <mib_rmugee> oh damn.. i just realised something
14:00 <Sutekh> sorry about that
14:01 <Ballig> ha
14:05 <Sutekh> only just realisd my name was wrong
14:15 <Ballig> trust Sutekh
14:39 <Ballig> I think a character in here has had slavery as a profession, but I don't think they had a boat
15:20 <Sutekh> i created a new character for the Con, a Shoanti Barbarian. Played him more that i thought he would
15:30 <Sutekh> Had a LOT of fun with him in Murders mark
16:12 <Ballig> nice
16:43 <Sutekh> its strange. i havnt been to the con here in a ages, but  lot of the faces were very familiar
16:45 <Sutekh> just look older
17:23 <Sutekh> didnt manage to get selected to get a boon though
19:26 <Ballig> should have mugged someone who got a boon
19:58 <Sutekh> heh
20:22 <Sutekh> im just known as a person who rarely ever wins random prizes... its a gift i have :)
21:27 <Sutekh> i also met Alastair and Matt Goodall
21:45 <Ballig> did you punch them in their faces
21:49 <Sutekh> why?
22:06 <Ballig> so you could say "I punched Alastair and Matt Goodall in their faces"
22:07 <Sutekh> Matt seemed like a good guy. certainly very knowledgeable about the setting
22:37 <Sutekh> oh i play a violent character. in reality, im a very unviolent person :)
23:07 <Sutekh> We also lost a character in race. the magus
23:31 <Ballig> ha
23:34 <Ballig> stupid maguses
24:06 <Sutekh> Anyway i gotta go
24:17 <Sutekh> Back to perth soon so have to pack up my case
25:13 <Wrothmonk> You turn around from the chat to fuse a few atoms in mine craft together and suddenly theres an entire conversation you missed...
27:58 <spider21b> hi
28:02 <Wrothmonk> Hello
26:07 <***> Buffer Playback...
26:07 <***> Playback Complete.
29:17 <Mekkis> Steven, did you get around to running that script?
43:55 <Avatar> I want a free one
46:19 <Steven> hey
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47:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, I can send one from Brisbane, I suppose
47:07 <Mekkis> when I get back there
47:12 <Mekkis> but you'll need to pay postage
49:25 <Avatar> fair enough
49:32 <Avatar> I actually could have really used one this weekend
50:18 <Mekkis> what for?
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57:53 <Steven> wow......
57:57 <Avatar> for a game I'm running
58:10 <Steven> i find i cannot properly express the anger i feel right now.
58:24 <Avatar> what's wrong
58:28 <Mekkis> what happened?
58:39 <Steven> I put two slices of pizza in the refrigerator last night
58:49 <Mekkis> and they're gone!
58:56 <Steven> told my room mates dont eat my pizza, they said no problem we wont
59:00 <Mekkis> because some Australian ate it!
59:11 <Steven> i go to sleep, wake up hungry, go to refrigerator 
59:14 <Steven> pizza gone...
59:19 <Avatar> fucking roommates
59:26 <Steven> I could understand if i hadnt said anything
59:33 <Avatar> why do they have to be dicks?
59:39 <Steven> i dunno....
59:49 <Steven> but it sounds like they owe me some pizza doesnt it?
00:01 <Avatar> it sounds like they want to be woken up to find out why they did that
00:20 <Steven> oh no ill let them sleep... because my anger will only grow from this point
00:32 <Brunius--> I think they do want to be woken
00:56 <Brunius--> By you yelling as you scarf their mountain dew
01:20 <Steven> i think i should wait till one of them goes and buys one of 'their' items
01:25 <Steven> and then just eat all of it.
01:36 <Mekkis> no
01:46 <Mekkis> just order another pizza and use their credit card
01:58 <Steven> ohhhhhhhh
02:04 <Steven> i think thats a winner
02:39 <Mekkis> otherwise you'll just escalate the thefts
03:03 <Steven> ill make sure to get a recipe
03:28 <Steven> write thanks for not eating my pizza on it, and put their card on top of it
03:32 <Steven> yeah!
03:36 <Steven> im doin this!
03:59 <Brunius--> Yeah!!!
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04:13 <Brunius--> Do this
04:25 <Brunius--> Teach them a lesson
05:38 <Steven> so how is everyone else doing?
07:08 <Steven> and mekkis no i have yet to go over to my brothers, he has been sick off his ass the last week and the day i waited at his house for his scotch he took his linux machine to work with him
07:42 <Mekkis> I drove to Canberra
07:53 <Mekkis> so Sutekh doesn't seem to like my driving...
08:23 <Steven> did you crash into anyone?
08:26 <Mekkis> no
08:44 <Mekkis> but I did follow the speed limit
11:07 <Steven> yeah that pisses a lot of people off for some reason
11:21 <Steven> anytime i drive my dad anywhere, he ends up furious at me by the end of it
11:29 <Steven> because i dont speed
12:02 <Steven> and if the road is wet, its foggy, snowy, rainy... basically anything other than optimal driving conditions i go slower than the speed limit
12:32 <Steven> he freaks out at me
12:36 <Brunius--> But Steven, you could have saved 30 whole seconds
12:41 <Steven> i know...
12:49 <Steven> but im never in a hurry to go where im driving him lol
17:37 <Steven> i wonder if anyone is going to try to submit a 'Crossblooded' Oracle for the RPG superstar
21:02 <Steven> damn it!!!!!! my vengeance has been ruined!
21:04 <Avatar> I am so keen to see the archetypes
21:28 <Avatar> the fact some classes got completely left out surprised me
21:40 <Steven> im sad my buddy walters item didnt make it... he was super close i guess
22:10 <Steven> if he had, i would have been assisting him in making it.
22:20 <Avatar> what was his item
23:08 <Steven> patchwork cat
23:27 <Brunius--> Is it bad that I don't care about rpg superstar
23:48 <Steven> yes.... yes it is
23:55 <Brunius--> Why
24:14 <Steven> because the winner will write content that will impact your characters
27:27 <Avatar> I'd like to know what archetypes have won in previous years
27:48 <Avatar> I think there's solid potential for them to be better than existing ones
29:09 <Mekkis> vote for the NZ one
29:17 <Mekkis> Matt Goodall helped on it
29:26 <Avatar> I'll vote on the NZ one if it's good
29:33 <Mekkis> that's a better reason
29:35 <Avatar> the last feedback I heard from matt was that it wasn't good
29:47 <Avatar> good that he got help though
30:03 <Avatar> a lot of archetypes are really simple
30:08 <Avatar> I don't see how it could be that hard 
30:25 <Avatar> although seeing the wondrous items woke me up a bit when I thought that was easy, so I might be surprised
30:30 <Mekkis> what sort of archetype would you make?
30:42 <Avatar> dunno
31:03 <Mekkis> make a non-broken summoner archetype
31:15 <Avatar> I consider alchemist and ranger pretty boring classes, that might be why they got so many entries
31:45 <Avatar> most classes would have potential for it though
32:57 <Steven> back
33:05 <Steven> I would make the cross blooded oracle
35:08 <Avatar> I'd like to see more gunslinger archetypes, it's a bit lacking at the moment
35:11 <Avatar> summoner is the same
35:32 <Avatar> something other than "summon more things"
35:54 <Steven> the problem with the summoner is that its very difficult to tinker with and create a balanced archtype
36:43 <Steven> and really the same goes for gunslingers...
37:13 <Steven> those two classes are really powerful...
37:37 <Brunius--> What's the first phase of superstar
37:47 <Steven> design an item
38:02 <Steven> http://paizo.com/rpgsuperstar
38:09 <Brunius--> Wondrous?
38:28 <Steven> yes
39:16 <Steven> i think a few of the items this year were no where near as cool as walters item...
39:41 <Steven> namely the Skipping Stone... 100g for a siac item that uses the wrong spell as a crafting requirement.
39:58 <Avatar> I thoguht the skipping stone was wicked
40:05 <Avatar> until I found out it nearly duplicates a spell
40:16 <Avatar> which nobody seemed to know about
40:26 <Brunius--> What is the spell
40:40 <Avatar> some druid spell, I can't remember the name
40:46 <Avatar> level 3 
40:55 <Steven> lily pad stride
41:00 <Brunius--> Well there you go
41:01 <Avatar> that's it
41:04 <Brunius--> It's druid
41:19 <Steven> only reason i knew about it was i was looking at druid spells when they announced the items
41:24 <Brunius--> I've seen precisely one druid played in pathfinder
41:39 <Brunius--> Oh, two
42:03 <Brunius--> Grolschmir is a druid, too
43:04 <Brunius--> !spell lily pad stride
43:21 <diebot> Brunius--, LILY PAD STRIDE transmutation ([]) druid 3 1 standard action Range: long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level)  Comp: V, S, M (a frog's leg) Duration: 10 minutes/level (D); see text Save: none SR:no
43:22 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/lily_pad_stride.html
46:22 <Steven> so....
46:26 Brunius- ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
46:46 <Steven> 10 hours and we get to start voting on the archetypes
48:43 <Avatar> starts at 9am our time
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48:56 <Avatar> which is convenient because I look paizo.com at work
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50:09 <Steven> woot woot!
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53:34 <Brunius--> Steven
53:39 <Steven> what up yo
53:52 <Steven> if its a rules question i can tell you what to do right now
53:58 <Steven> check the forums.
54:21 <Steven> oh oh oh... sorry knee jerk reaction
54:45 <Steven> today i answered about 20 emails all about rules questions
02:51 <Steven> alright back
03:00 <Steven> had to make a forum post
04:50 <Steven> brunius... what do you want...........................
04:58 <Steven> you have held me in suspence!
05:02 <Steven> HOW DARE YOU!
16:21 <Avatar> can't get a ruling on ice tomb
16:32 <Brunius--> I thought it would be amusing
16:40 <Steven> bastard....
16:58 <Steven> you mean you cant find out if they changed it from a fort save to a reflex save?
17:04 <Brunius--> Hmm, what race is good for gunslingers!
17:04 <Avatar> yeah
17:29 <Avatar> standard gunslinger or archetype?
17:30 <Steven> then they likely havent changed it
17:44 <Brunius--> Standard, probably
17:46 <Avatar> I disagree with you there steven
18:13 <Brunius--> Maybe pistolero
18:17 <Avatar> human is pretty good
18:35 <Avatar> I'd be interested to see a gunslinger with a blunderbuss
18:36 <Brunius--> MAD though
18:48 <Brunius--> I was considering that
19:04 <Brunius--> Hmm, I think I will do that
19:15 <Brunius--> He will also be a pirate
19:40 <Avatar> halflings would make good mysterious strangers
19:48 <Avatar> but if you're playing a gunslinger, you want quick clear
19:57 <Avatar> which mysterious strangers don't get :(
21:17 <Steven> you can disagree all you want, but you cant find a post about them changing it and it says fort save still...  sounds like its a fort save to me.
21:51 <Avatar> I can't find a post about most things that make sense
22:04 <Avatar> that just means they don't make posts
22:31 <Steven> yeah quick clear is a good class ability
22:38 <Avatar> it's essential
22:47 <Avatar> a gunslinger without it and no backup plan is a dead gunslinger
23:14 <Steven> well avatar, you can message mike brock with your concerns or you can accept that its a fort save until such a time as they change it over to some other save.
23:32 <Avatar> does mike respond to messages about rule questions 
23:39 <Avatar> I didn't realise that was an option
24:25 <Steven> i dunno, ive never bugged him with rules questions before
24:31 <Steven> i usually make a post on the forums
25:43 <Avatar> yeah so do I, and he never ever answers
25:56 <Avatar> I'll try JJ
26:15 <Steven> yeah... thats a good one too
26:30 <Steven> wheres your forum post about it?
27:04 <Brunius--> Avatar, What about buying 17 pistols
27:16 <Brunius--> Is that a good backup plan
27:30 <Steven> no
27:36 <Steven> pistols are very expensive
27:50 <Brunius--> I don't feel like many have made blunderbuss gunslingers
27:58 <Avatar> I don't know anyone who has
28:03 <Brunius--> I think that is what I'll make
28:12 <Avatar> I think it'd be interesting, though not easy to play
28:31 <Steven> it would probably not be all that good of an archetype because you have a range incriment of 15ft
28:41 <Steven> and sure... you fire in a cone...
28:59 <Steven> but. you have to be really close to an enemy to do damage
29:58 <Brunius--> Maybe I will make a gnome
30:11 <Brunius--> That rides a roc
30:23 <Steven> avatar... where is your post on icetomb?
31:15 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nfvk?Icy-Tomb-and-Undead
31:22 <Avatar> it's not my post, I've added to it from two weeks ago
31:26 <Avatar> and at least two others want to know the answer
38:40 <Steven> i think you should create a new post
40:22 <Steven> in the rules forum, specifically about the ice tomb hex and if it is similiar enough to icy prison to warrent an errata to requiring a reflex save rather than a fort.
42:28 <Avatar> I'll keep pressing it
42:38 <Avatar> but this is a two week old post, and that post is about ice tomb
42:48 <Avatar> it seems silly to make a new post about the same thing just over some confusion
42:56 <Avatar> after I've clarified it in that same post on the first page
43:14 <Avatar> the problem isn't people aren't seeing it, the problem is paizo staff aren't responding
43:49 <Avatar> this one isn't really open for community debate, RAW is clear that it's a fort save
44:03 <Avatar> but the SKR ruling suggests it should really be a will save
44:05 <Avatar> er, reflex
44:19 <Steven> no, the SKR ruling says Icy Prison is a reflex save.
44:26 <Avatar> it's the same effect
44:33 <Steven> he never once said anything about Ice Tomb
44:41 <Avatar> it's like suggesting a standard action can rouse someone from slumber hex but not sleep
44:52 <Avatar> why would he, they were only talking about icy prison
45:08 <Avatar> you don't go searching for anything that might possibly be related when you're making rulings
46:02 <Steven> well if you care to look at the original post date for the thread you will notice that thread was created in jan 2012
46:12 <Steven> its now jan 2013, paizo probably consider the matter long past due
46:34 <Steven> and closed and what not
46:36 <Steven> so....
47:01 <Steven> like i said, create a new post specifically about ice tomb being similar and see if you get a result, if you dont message a developer
48:41 <Avatar> what's the best way to message a dev
50:21 <Steven> through paizo i would assume
50:59 <Steven> but you should probably create a forum post, and then jsut link them the thread
51:15 <Steven> so that they can then make a ruling where everyone can see it
53:51 <Steven> oh snap... mike brock laid down the firm hand!
54:22 <Steven> but, now i dont have to mince words when i confront the local guy
55:05 <Steven> I will probably be kicking a cheater out from our local store.
55:35 <Avatar> what's he done
57:39 <Steven> excessive rules lawyering
57:57 <Steven> 'appearing' items
58:10 <Steven> dice stacking
59:15 <Steven> by dice stacking i mean rolling dice and then stacking the bonus's to maximize hits instead of assigning the bonus' to dice in order
59:26 <Steven> you know... cheating
59:40 <Avatar> that's pretty shit
59:47 <Steven> indeed
00:50 <Steven> but as per a very nice post by mike brock, it is allowed for me to say hey these are what ive had complaints on, any more complaints and you will be uninvited from events at this location
00:59 <Brunius--> Why do you need mike Brock to make a ruling on that
01:13 <Steven> and if he starts arguing, i can uninvite him on the spot
01:30 <Avatar> pretty sure you can do that anyway
01:43 <Brunius--> Yeah
02:05 <Brunius--> There's no more Play Play Play
02:34 <Steven> its a matter of degrees...  theres be firm and then theres do whatever you need to do to cull the cancer that is this player from your ranks
03:05 <Steven> permission was given to cull
03:14 <Avatar> but you don't need permission for that
03:28 <Steven> actually as a VO i can get in trouble for stuff like that
03:34 <Avatar> really
04:13 <Steven> yeah... being a VO is a lot more work than you guys think... anytime im dealing with running a game or being official i run the risk of having a complaint filed against me
04:23 <Steven> if you get too many complaints, you get in trouble
05:00 <Steven> like if i was running a game, and was pissed at somebody here and repeatedly attacked them till i killed their character to the exception of the creatures moral
05:21 <Steven> that person could file a complaint, and i could get in trouble and even removed as a VO
05:32 <Brunius--> I think you're too worried about it 
05:39 <Brunius--> Cae sera sera
05:47 <Brunius--> Or however you spell it
05:58 <Steven> its what i do, im a worrier
06:05 <Steven> also, im cold as fuck
06:13 <Avatar> you should worry more about your roommates stealing your pizza I think
06:29 <Brunius--> I agree
07:20 <Brunius--> Avatar: You said Andrei messaged you about something, but I can't remember what it was
07:35 <Brunius--> It was relevant to me somehow
07:55 <Steven> dude... they ruined my vengeance
08:21 <Brunius--> By?
08:45 <Steven> he got up, came to my room and was like hey dude, i know i said i wouldnt eat your pizza but i forgot when i got up for a midnight snack and i ate a piece
08:51 <Steven> so... ill buy you a pizza tomorrow
08:54 <Steven> sorry
09:06 <Steven> cant even be mad at him now
09:49 <Avatar> about running portal of the sacred rune
09:54 <Avatar> ?
10:14 <Brunius--> Don't think that was it
11:13 <Avatar> he hasn't messaged me about anything else I don't think
11:22 <Brunius--> Huh
11:23 <Mekkis> he messaged me about Cultist's Kiss
11:38 <Avatar> oh yeah
11:42 <Avatar> mekkis where is that database
12:06 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/pathfinder.db.bz2
12:37 <Avatar> how do you use that file
12:55 <Brunius--> Sql reader
12:56 <Mekkis> unzip it using something like 7zip
13:01 <Mekkis> then use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/sqlite-manager/
13:11 <Brunius--> There's one for Firefox
13:12 <Mekkis> that's the best sqlite manage I've seen
13:19 <Mekkis> you can also use sqlitebrowser
13:28 <Mekkis> which isn't bad
13:34 <Mekkis> but the firefox addon is better
16:50 <Avatar> how do you open that file in the addo
16:52 <Avatar> addon
17:00 <Avatar> seems to only want to open .sqlite files
17:14 <Mekkis> did you unzip it?
17:18 <Mekkis> so it's pathfinder.db
17:28 <Mekkis> you can either change it to All Files, and select it
17:30 <Avatar> yeah 
17:34 <Mekkis> or rename it to pathfinder.sqlite
17:37 <Avatar> it's the same thing, okay
17:59 <Mekkis> then you just use SQL
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18:32 <Mekkis> Hydrazine!
18:41 <Hydrazine> Where?
18:53 <Mekkis> in the atmosphere!
19:32 <Brunius--> Are you still in Aussie
19:37 <Mekkis> [email protected]
19:42 <Mekkis> what do you think, Brunius?
20:35 <Brunius--> I think my client doesn't show me that for some silly reason
21:02 <Brunius--> But yes
21:04 <Avatar> I think I have to brush up on my sql
21:28 <Hydrazine> How you folk been?
21:35 <Brunius--> From the looks of it, same connection as Tashes?
21:35 <Mekkis> select * FROM ITEM WHERE PRICE < 16000 AND FULLTEXT like '%dimension door%';
21:51 <Mekkis> Hydrazine, we arcanaconed
21:55 <Mekkis>  you should have been there
22:08 <Brunius--> You shoulda
22:26 <Avatar> awesome, got it
22:32 <Hydrazine> Was it fully sick awesome?
22:33 <Avatar> what's going on hydrazine
22:38 <Hydrazine> And yeah, same connection as Tashes.
22:51 <Hydrazine> Shes right over there.
22:52 <Tashes> on account of us livign together n shiz
22:59 <Brunius--> Avatar was fully sick
23:07 <Brunius--> :P
23:10 <Hydrazine> Thats normal
23:11 <Tashes> was he?
23:12 <Tashes> was he really?
23:26 <Hydrazine> We were playing Deadlands.
23:29 <Brunius--> Nah, he said he felt sick
23:34 <Mekkis> which version, Hydrazine?
24:06 <Brunius--> Didn't get to see him throw up
24:10 <Mekkis> Steven, I'll run one of those 7-11s you requested if you agree to run Echoes of the Everwar II-IV
24:35 <Avatar> that sounds fair, one for three :P
24:46 <Mekkis> I'll be eating it
25:12 <Avatar> I wasn't too happy with part 1
25:14 <Mekkis> you know how much I hate eating scenarios
25:27 <Avatar> yeah but people do it all the time
25:29 <Brunius--> You eater
25:31 <Hydrazine> first vers I think.
25:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, maybe not, but Deceased wants to finish what he starts
25:54 <Tashes> HYDRA THREW A BOAT AT ME
26:00 <Mekkis> oh no
26:00 <Avatar> which scenarios does steven want
26:05 <Hydrazine> I did not. I talked the DM into throwing a boat at you.
26:10 <Avatar> do it again hydrazine
26:35 <Hydrazine> Once is enough I hope. She learned her lesson.
26:57 <Mekkis> Jan 28 23:24:39 <Steven>        But yeah, we coudl do fury of th efiend, forbidden furance of forgotten koor, king of the storval stairs, and feast of sigils...
27:13 <Mekkis> What version of deadlands, Hydrazine?
27:26 <Avatar> I haven't done any of those
27:32 <Mekkis> exactly
27:46 <Mekkis> I'd probably run Feast of Sigils
27:58 <Avatar> oh god another season 4
28:02 <Avatar> make the pain stop
28:17 <Mekkis> because Deceased has 6 scenarios before retirement
28:37 <Avatar> yeah so do two of my favourite characters
28:47 <Mekkis> of them, he wants to play Fury of the Fiend, Fingerprints of the fiend, and Echoes II - IV
28:47 <Avatar> eyes of the ten soon!
28:50 <Brunius--> What's erupt wrong with season 4
29:01 <Avatar> season 4 brings so much pain
29:02 <Mekkis> so that means he only has one other scenario
29:42 <Steven> its okay you will be playing with honey
30:10 <Steven> so nobody should die unless they do something stupid... or are drastically unprepared
30:31 <Mekkis> when Kernigahn hits 10, it's free raises for everyone!
31:03 <Avatar> what class is kernighan
31:04 <Steven> Honey does that one time... she has 5k in diamond dust on her
31:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, discounting the special, there were no season 4 deaths in arcanacon
31:29 <Mekkis> cleric, with a multiclass planned
31:33 <Avatar> yeah not for lack of trying
32:05 <Mekkis> Defunct aced that chase scene
32:07 <Mekkis> :S
32:09 <Brunius--> I like season 4...
32:20 <Avatar> damian jackson made a complaint about the special on the boards
32:25 <Avatar> he was really upset about it
32:28 <Mekkis> who's he?
32:31 <Mekkis> link?
32:43 <Avatar> the older guy who was talking to you about your diabolist being evil
33:03 <Brunius--> I wouldn't have allowed that +18 on sense motive
33:11 <Mekkis> why not?
33:18 <Avatar> what +18
33:48 <Brunius--> Because why would fly give you a +10 in that situation
33:59 <Mekkis> true
34:21 <Mekkis> because being above the crowd would make it easy to see which direction the crowd's going?
34:54 <Mekkis> (fyi, defunct maxed out sense motive)
35:11 <Avatar> +2 maybe
35:16 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you have a link to the complaint?
35:22 <Avatar> I'm trying to find it
35:28 <Avatar> my browser doesn't want to load up paizo.com very well
36:00 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2pdc9?Race-for-the-Runecarved-Key-question#9
36:01 <Mekkis> ?
36:07 <Avatar> that's it
36:21 <Mekkis> he needs to use the enter key more
36:31 <Avatar> yeah he really does :P
36:37 <Avatar> and spoiler tags
39:01 <Steven> awwwwww poor lil fella... sounds like things didnt go his way
39:15 <Avatar> our game was ridiculous
39:26 <Brunius--> It we very silly
39:33 <Brunius--> Was
39:58 <Avatar> everyone really seems to hate andrew
40:06 <Mekkis> I thought it was an improvement over last year's
40:20 <Avatar> over the bloodbath that was last year
40:21 <Mekkis> but that might be because we didn't play at 5-6
40:33 <Avatar> didn't we??
40:38 <Mekkis> last year we did
40:54 <Mekkis> this year the 5-6 table didn't enjoy it
40:55 <Brunius--> We were at 89 this year
41:08 <Avatar> yeah I know this year
41:09 <Mekkis> in 2011, I was at the 5-6 table and didn't really enjoy it
41:22 <Avatar> we all were
41:51 <Avatar> we had a bad party makup if I recall
41:52 <Mekkis> to be honest, I found the special this year quite enjoyable
42:02 <Avatar> two damage dealers, a tank, a rogue 
42:14 <Mekkis> compared to this year?
42:21 <Avatar> and one very secondary healer
42:37 <Avatar> the druid wouldn't have died if he had some better gear
42:54 <Mekkis> agreed
43:05 <Avatar> bit dodgy considering at the beginning I was asking for what gear we should buy
45:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, have you PMed Damien re: playing in this channel?
45:11 <Mekkis> might be a good idea
45:33 <Steven> you mean that guy complaining in the forum post you linked?
45:43 <Mekkis> yeah
45:55 <Steven> are you sure thats a good idea?
46:07 <Steven> he doesnt like power gamers or cheese
46:14 <Mekkis> what's the worst thing that can happen?
46:17 <Avatar> that's becuase he's not corrupted yet
46:26 <Avatar> bring him in
46:29 <Steven> thats what i mean avatar
46:38 <Steven> do we really want to deflower him?
46:43 <Avatar> haha
46:46 <Steven> oh what am i saying....
46:48 <Steven> bring that bitch in
47:33 <Mekkis> worst thing that can happen is a +b
47:38 <Mekkis> which is unlikely
48:09 <Mekkis> Steven, do you have any local players who other people don't like running games for or playing games with?
48:22 <Steven> yes
48:42 <Steven> remember my rants about bobby
48:46 <Mekkis> how are you handling them?
48:52 <Steven> lol
49:15 <Steven> back when i wasnt a VL i willingly violated the dont be a jerk rule
49:27 <Steven> just to fuck up his ride by attack lines
49:45 <Mekkis> what effect did it have?
49:49 <Steven> he bitched
49:51 <Steven> i smiled
49:58 <Steven> people at the table laughed behind his back
50:12 <Steven> all in all very immaturely handled
50:27 <Steven> but really we have a couple people who are less than stellar
53:34 <Brunius--> If Damien is annoyed by Mekkis' antics, or might be better not to bring him in here
54:58 <Avatar> I don't think he is more annoyed with his antics than I am
56:02 <Mekkis> actually, one reason I left the temple was that I had been repetitively assured by multiple GMs that the temple would be able to handle a deliberate cloudkill, and I'd be mad to try it
56:30 <Mekkis> so when a cloudkill came, I had good reason to believe that the temple could handle it
56:49 <Avatar> do you mean mad not to try it
56:55 <Brunius--> So you were meta gaming
57:00 <Brunius--> Is that it
57:16 <Mekkis> I wouldn't call it metagaming
58:15 <Brunius--> What would you call it
59:27 <Mekkis> Evidently, my character had made that judgement already by looking around the temple
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