#d&d - 2013-01-09 - AustNet Archive Project

// #d&d — 2013-01-09

1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016
Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31
« 2013-01-08 2013-01-10 »
01:14 <Steven> Pullman, Washington, USA
03:52 <Vershokk> oh nice! :D
04:52 <Steven> i dunno bout htat
04:59 <Vershokk> heh
05:07 <Steven> all the bastard college kids came back into town its a fuckin madhouse out there right now
06:09 <Vershokk> urghh
07:33 <Steven> ran up to the store
07:36 <Steven> ugh....
08:15 <Steven> sorority girls in their ultra pink outfits.... walking around like they are better than everyone else
08:18 <Steven> i got to scare one of them
08:27 <Steven> when she stepped infront of me in the line and i growled at her
08:44 <Vershokk> Yet another thing I like about australia
08:46 <Steven> she yelped and got behind me
09:00 <Vershokk> we dont have that shit in university
14:55 <Vershokk> would godsmouth be to full on for a first play?
17:28 <Steven> I didnt really like godsmouth
17:47 <Vershokk> why is that?
19:59 <Steven> it was mostly a dungeon crawl
20:11 <Steven> which is fine, but as an introduction to pfs
20:31 <Steven> its better to get some storyline interaction to hook people
21:23 <Vershokk> for sure
21:44 <Vershokk> aside from goblins (i really dont think that will hook 2/3 people in) can you think of another?
21:48 Sutekh has quit (Quit: Leaving)
05:47 <Avatar> what a mind numbing day
06:19 <Avatar> not a dedicated voter for the wondrous items yet but I must be pretty damn close
06:26 <Avatar> I have no idea how anyone gets marathon or champion
06:32 <Brunius> what
06:54 <Avatar> you get titles for voting 100, 500, 1000 or 3000 times for rpg superstar's wondrous items round
07:11 <Brunius> ...
07:16 <Brunius> Riiiiiight
07:20 <Avatar> what
07:36 <Brunius> Seems a bit silly to me
08:04 <Avatar> then don't do it
08:11 <Avatar> voting is kind of addictive though
14:15 <Steven> i do it to see what kind of stupid shit people make in home brews
16:14 <MekkisScreen> write a script to vote 300000 times
16:21 <MekkisScreen> find the stupidest item
30:36 <Avatar> there are a lot of swiss army knives
37:45 <Ballig> what do they do
37:57 <Brunius> Swiss Army stuff
39:55 <Steven> alright time to take a break from that
40:45 <Steven> got about.... half the scenarios we are playing at radcon up on the warhorn
42:04 <Steven> 19 minute expiration timer on this.... any 5-9 game you guys want me to run ill run tonight
42:22 <Brunius> fortune's blight
42:39 <Steven> You need 4 people, and ill run it
45:51 <Avatar> there are items that do 4 or 5 different things
46:06 <Avatar> crazier ones include +2 to charisma as one of those things
46:08 <Ballig> unless you want all those 4 or 5 things, it's usually not worth it
46:31 <Avatar> they're generally all good things
46:34 <Avatar> but they are overpowered
46:49 <Ballig> yeah
46:55 <Avatar> usually less than 10K for great stuff
46:56 <Ballig> people use that kind of competition as wish fulfillment fantasies
47:04 <Avatar> some are pretty creative
47:05 <Ballig> "I would love for my character to have this and it will be AWESOME AND HE CAN AFFORD IT AND BE AWESOME!"
47:20 <Avatar> some are things that sound good but you just can't see yourself ever wanting to buy
48:01 <Avatar> some are incredibly situational, where you might use it one very specific type of campaign
48:07 <Avatar> where you keep a vehicle for at least a week
48:48 <Ballig> yeah the regular rules have a few situational things too
52:46 <Avatar> they've already removed the bottom 25% of items that weren't getting enough votes
52:56 <Avatar> considering the ones that are still in there, I'd hate to see what they removed
53:03 <Ballig> well
53:13 <Ballig> it could be that people voting are succumbing to wish fulfillment too
53:30 <Ballig> thinking of items from a players' perspective rather than a developers' perspective
54:08 <Avatar> it would suck to have a great item on the chopping block because voters are voting in wish fulfillment items
54:28 <Steven> I look at it from the perspective of how well it is formatted, is it power level above other items of its cost, and does it break rules/make the gms job harder
54:52 <Ballig> it would suck for decently built items to not get any votes while the "YOU GET +2 STRENGTH AND TWENTY TIMES A DAY YOU CAN MAKE AN ATTACK THAT DOES X3 DAMAGE AND ALSO IT LETS YOU FLY AND ONLY COSTS 2,000 GOLD"
54:56 <Ballig> gets all the votes
55:52 <Steven> im fairly certain the people who are in charge of the contest are keeping an eye of the ratings and wont let AM BARBARIAN items in
56:09 <Ballig> is there a vetting process then?
56:33 <Steven> yeah
57:15 <Steven> i saw an item that was basically like a +2 dex belt that let you fly and once per day you cast vanish at caster level 12
57:29 <Avatar> yeah if I see an item that makes me think this will make the GMs job unbelievably difficult, it doesn't get my vote
57:33 <Steven> cost was like 8k
57:51 <Ballig> get rid of the fly and it might be okay
57:54 <Ballig> 12th level might be a bit excessive
57:56 <Avatar> +2 to an ability on an item, plus anything, is shit
58:30 <Steven> I dunno, theres a rod in UE that gives +4 charisma
58:31 <Avatar> if it's temporary or has some disadvantage, it might be fine
58:38 <Avatar> what rod is that
58:38 <Steven> pretty interesting item really
58:51 <Ballig> well the thing with a belt that gives +2 dex is that there already is a belt that gives +2 dex
58:53 <Steven> now i gotta go find it
59:03 <Ballig> but that one would cost twice as much and, you assume, couldn't be upgraded to a +4 like the regular one can
59:09 <Ballig> so without the fly it would be all right
59:20 <Avatar> the +2 to cha item I saw was a belt slot
59:29 <Steven> Rod of Splendor
00:03 <Steven> magically garbs you in clothing worth 1d4+6 x1000gp
00:14 <Steven> so 7-10k worth of stuff
00:23 <Ballig> sell the clothing !!!
00:28 <Steven> cant
00:36 <Avatar> the price on that rod is astronomical and the secondary powers aren't really that great
00:46 <Steven> not really
00:52 <Steven> all that great of an item
01:04 <Steven> but its still an alternate way to get +4 cha
01:10 <Avatar> 9000gp less for an almost-the-same-thing 
01:24 <Ballig> I will sell the clothing before I even take it off
01:34 <Ballig> just walk into a store and be like "Give me 2,000 and I will give you this 10k worth of stuff"
01:40 <Ballig> and they will sell it, and then I will take off the clothes and run
01:45 <Ballig> before they realise they have been had
01:54 <Steven> Apparel created by the magic of the rod remains in existence for 12 hours. However, if the possessor attempts to sell or give away any part of it, use it for a spell component, or the like, all the apparel immediately disappears. The same applies if any of it is forcibly taken from her.
02:14 <Ballig> yeah I will pretend I'm not selling it
02:26 <Ballig> "Do do do, just putting this clothing here on the floor doo do do dod... give me the gold quick! RUNNNNNN!"
02:54 <Steven> lol
13:06 <MekkisScreen> so, the Princess has used the rod of splender, and one of the young nobles grabs at her dress...
14:23 <Ballig> it has to be taken forcibly according to the description
14:36 <Ballig> it would be more like, the Princess has used a rod of splender, and a pickpocket steals one of her rings
17:23 <MekkisScreen> what if someone other than the possessor tries to use it for a spell component?
17:50 <Avatar> then rocks fall
18:05 <Ballig> that might be considered 'giving away' part of it
18:10 <Ballig> or it being forcibly taken from them
18:58 <MekkisScreen> !spell wartrain mount
18:59 <diebot> MekkisScreen, WARTRAIN MOUNT enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, bard 2, druid 2, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, ranger 1 1 minute Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one indifferent or friendly animal Comp: V, S, M (a swatch of black cloth) Duration: 1 hour/level Save: none SR:yes
19:00 <diebot> You instill the target animal with the combat training general purpose (see the Handle Animal skill, Core Rulebook 98). This supersedes the animal's previous trained purpose and any tricks it knows. When the spell ends, it reverts to its previous trained purpose and known tricks.
34:33 <Steven> there the warhorn is all set up
35:26 <Steven> now i just need to get my GMs to organize themselves
53:35 Ssry has quit (Quit: )
27:01 <Brunius> http://redd.it/166yu1
56:59 <Steven> Mike brock is going to be going to a con in Sydney aus
58:18 <Ballig> I will go there and ask him about alignments
59:03 <Ballig> is there anything you want me to ask Mike Brock, Avatar
00:25 <Brunius> Old news, Steven
03:09 <Steven> well its pretty cool to me
17:35 <Brunius> You should come down to Sydney with him
21:23 <Steven> yeah............. let me borrow 2500 bucks in plane tickets and ill get rigt on that
22:45 <Steven> wow this item is fuckin stupid
39:24 <Ballig> Steven: cool, so I can change alignments mid-scenario
45:21 dicebot ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
59:10 <Avatar> how can you take a prestige class that requires neutral evil
06:15 <Ballig> you can't
48:45 Forevernade ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
01:23 <Steven> its for way of the wicked avatar
05:06 Wrothmonk ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
08:46 <Steven> Yes you can change alignments mid scenario if there is a reason for the change which the GM agrees with
18:44 <Mekkis> what happens if you've got levels in a class that require a certain alignment?
19:28 <Steven> if you no longer have that alignment you become an ex-Class
21:29 <Mekkis> the Monk specifically says that, yes
21:36 <Steven> so does barbarian
21:52 <Mekkis> assassin doesn't
21:57 <Steven> barbarian is nasty to lose, no more rage
22:48 <Steven> druid no more pet and no more spells
22:58 <Mekkis> nor does Hellknight
23:08 <Steven> \
24:49 <Steven> i think only a couple of the newer prestige classes have things were you can become ex-class
26:37 <Steven> but its not really a concern to atone for shit
26:44 <Steven> since its so damned cheap
27:19 <Mekkis> so if you became non-evil after taking a level of assassin, could you continue to take levels of assassin?
27:28 <Steven> no
27:38 <Mekkis> where does it actually say that?
27:42 <Steven> you no longer meet the prereqs for being an assassin
32:21 Steven has quit (EOF from client)
32:35 Steven ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
32:56 <Steven> accidently turned off mirc
02:09 Brunius ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
29:23 spider21b ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
31:07 <spider21b> hi?
45:09 <Brunius> sup
53:23 <spider21b> so i was thinking, we should run a game like wensday
04:15 Brunius has quit (Ping timeout: 181 seconds)
16:45 Brunius ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
58:36 <Brunius> Oh hey, new teeth
58:43 <Brunius> I guess that's wisdom teeth or something
08:06 <Steven> Okay, for the next 22 minutes im wiling to start a game
08:10 <Steven> find 4 people
08:18 <Steven> something in the 5-9 range
08:21 <Steven> and i will run it
09:39 <Brunius> Fortunes' Blight.
10:14 <Brunius> Avatar, Mekkis, kapow_znc, Wrothmonk, spider21b, Ballig, Forevernade, do you have characters, are you around?
10:32 <Forevernade> I am around, but no players
10:43 <Wrothmonk> I am around, but no I do not have any characters high enough.
12:02 <Steven> play a premade, hold credit
16:41 <Steven> 14 minutes
17:10 <Brunius> ANSeranov ?
17:14 <Brunius> hX8 ?
17:18 <ANSeranov> Hm?
17:24 <Brunius> S711, Ziria ?
18:02 <Brunius> You up for a game in 5-9 range?
18:32 <ANSeranov> Don't have a character that level, and I don't have time tonight. Gotta go to bed early because my classes start again tomorrow.
19:19 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: I do
19:31 <MekkisScreen> but I've played Fortune's Blight
22:17 spider21b has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
25:18 <Steven> 5-9s include the dog pharaoh's tomb, the fabric of reality, the first heresy, fortune's blight, the ghenett manor gauntlet, the golden serpent, the golemworks incident, the green market, the haunting of hinogai, the immortal conundrum, the jesters fraud, the rebel's ransom, snakes in the fold, sniper in the deap, and you only die twice
25:28 <Steven> fabric of reality isnt out yet
25:49 <Steven> also, the time limit has been extended till i get back from the store.
41:06 Vershokk ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
43:32 <Vershokk> Hey guys! I am fairly interested in learning to play pathfinder... I have never had any tabletop RPG experience and I have a few friends interested. What is the best way to learn to GM a basic game??
44:01 <Vershokk> Would it be ideal to just jump in and wade through a few one shots? I have a lot of books available.
50:18 <Steven> alright, im here... you guys talk about a game you want me to run?
51:26 <Vershokk> I was just interested in getting some info on how to introduce myself and my close group of friends to pathfinder
51:41 <Steven> where ya from vershokk
51:48 <Vershokk> Melbourne
52:01 <Vershokk> (Aus)
52:28 <Steven> cool cool, i think we have a couple people who live in that area
52:39 <Steven> they can point you towards local stores if there are any
52:40 <Brunius> Avatar and I live in Melbourne
52:45 <Brunius> I think Sutekh does too
52:48 <Vershokk> Oh yeah, for sure...
52:49 <Brunius> Whereabouts are you?
53:01 <Steven> hey brunius...  am i running something?
53:07 <Brunius> Doesn't seem like it
53:07 <Steven> or did people not jump on my offer?
53:11 <Brunius> Not enough people
53:19 <Vershokk> I've recently had surgery, so unfortunately brick and mortar is kinda out of the question..
53:21 <Brunius> It's like 3pm here, so they're all at work
54:07 <Vershokk> I was really interested in learning the ropes of GMing so I could attempt to run a small one-shot at my house while im recovering..
54:29 <Vershokk> Was hoping someone could offer up some good online resources or something :)
55:00 <Steven> Paizo.com
55:11 <Vershokk> I have access to most of the books available to me, I guess it is just more of a How do you start...
55:19 <Steven> d20pfsrd.com
55:23 <Vershokk> heh, i got that much XD
55:31 <Steven> what books do you have?
55:34 <Vershokk> cheers :)
55:38 <Steven> do you have the core assumption?
56:00 <Steven> i suppose we should start out with, do you want to run D&D
56:05 <Steven> or Pathfinder society?
56:12 <Steven> or Pathfinder homegame
56:29 <Vershokk> pathfinder homegame looks to be more my thing atm
57:14 <Vershokk> i have the core rules, beastery, advanced players guide and game mastery guide (pdf) from the library and my local bookstore
57:24 <Steven> cool
57:38 <Vershokk> as well as PDF versions of a few adventures...
57:45 <Wrothmonk> what is pathfinder home game? I don't think I have heard of it before.
58:21 <Vershokk> my understanding is that it is more a house-rules caual version? as opposed to society?
58:29 <Vershokk> casual**
58:41 <Steven> home games are casual games wrothmonk
58:47 <Wrothmonk> ah.
58:55 <Steven> totaly under the control of the GM who is running the game
59:43 <Steven> I tend to stay away from them due to poor experiences in D&D and related tabletop games
59:53 <Steven> mostly railroading GMs
01:11 <Steven> and one GM who refused to do set any limits...  The game was a giant sandbox with no story arc at all
01:54 <Steven> Any vershokk... i suggest putting up a flier for information on your game and see if you get any bites
02:03 <Vershokk> does pathfinder 'require' resources? Is it viable to run games with nothing bar character sheets and some beer?
02:22 <Steven> OR you could go down to the local gaming stores and sit for some PFS and see if you can gather a few players from that group
02:41 <Vershokk> Yeah for sure.. :) Thanks. I have 3 mates who seem really keen, and another who is on the fence
02:50 <Steven> Pathfinder home brew requires willing participants, thats about it
03:00 <Vershokk> I just don't want to fuck it up so badly that i ruin it for them.. Performance anxiety i guess ahha
03:24 <Steven> I really suggest PFS over a home brew if you want to get people into the gaming system
03:47 <Steven> pick a few of the better rated scenarios and let them have fun with those
03:51 <Vershokk> fair enough. That is something I can look at attending down the road, pretty much housebound atm
03:54 <Steven> and then introduce them to a home brew
03:56 <Vershokk> for sure
04:01 <Steven> you can run PFS from your house
04:02 <Vershokk> any suggestions? 
04:20 <Steven> PFS takes at a minimum 4 people
04:37 <Vershokk> I have been reading Godsmouth Heresy
04:38 <Steven> 3 people and a Gm playing a premade, makes a legal tablesize
04:45 <Vershokk> and We Be Goblins i think
05:04 <Steven> We be goblins is a great introduction to pfs because its meant to be rules lax and silly
05:10 <Steven> while still teaching fundimentals
05:20 <Vershokk> I got that vibe...
05:55 <Vershokk> running the modules, is it viable to do so without maps and such?
06:13 <Vershokk> I can grab miniatures, as one of the guys attending works in a wargaming shop.
06:27 <Steven> It makes combat more difficult
06:51 <Steven> without a map
07:39 <Vershokk> good to know :)
08:53 Vershokk has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
11:17 Vershokk ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
11:28 <Steven> You should be able to get a flip mat for around 10-15 bucks at a gaming store with no problems or even order it offline
11:50 <Vershokk> Cheers! :) Ill get someone to pick one up for me i reckon
12:13 <Wrothmonk> You can also print out grid paper and tape it together and draw on it, bit more work but lest costly I think.
12:14 <Brunius> GG sells them for $22
12:17 <Brunius> Bastards
12:24 <Vershokk> GG??
12:34 <Steven> ooh yeah you guys are in Aus
12:39 <Brunius> Good Games
12:40 <Vershokk> ahh! Yeah
12:51 <Steven> shipping is a bitch to get things across the pacific
13:24 <Vershokk>  have plenty of time on my hands, might make my own varried maps on the PC and print em off
14:59 <Steven> we had a guy do that
16:20 ANSeranov has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
17:17 <Steven> he even pasted it all on like foam board stuff
17:33 <Steven> and constructed it at the table
17:36 <Vershokk> That's a good idea
17:50 <Steven> in theory its a great idea, in practice he struggled with it big time
17:55 <Vershokk> yeah...
18:02 <Vershokk> Ill probably just print and laminated
18:51 <Steven> print and laminate probably the best
18:58 <Steven> since it will allow you to write on stuff
19:09 <Vershokk> and store it a little easier
19:47 <Steven> I almost ran eyes of the ten last night
19:49 <Steven> well the first part
20:03 <Steven> but one of the players i had, did not have a level 12
20:24 <Vershokk> :(
20:38 <Vershokk> how do you guys go running games online?
20:40 <Steven> hes been playin for about 2 months less than me
20:47 <Steven> Yeah we run games online
21:02 <Steven> and i was like why dont you have a level 12 and his response was he had too many characters
21:09 <Vershokk> over IRC? Skype?
21:23 <Steven> IRC+Skype+CA
21:30 <Vershokk> I have no idea how long it takes to get a lvl 12, so i can't relate sorry..hahaha
21:36 <Vershokk> ah cool cool
21:44 <Steven> takes 33 games
21:53 <Brunius> If you play once a week, at standard progression, that's 6 months
21:59 <Vershokk> yeah for sure
21:59 <Brunius> +- a bit
23:55 <Steven> i have a level 13, 12, 9, 8, 7, 6, two 5s, two 4s, a 3, a 2, and several 1s 
24:03 <Steven> and ive been playing for a year and 5 months
24:29 <Vershokk> Ah nice :) Have you been playing online for long?
24:33 <Brunius> I've been playing like two years now and I've got 6,6,3,1,1,1
24:41 <Vershokk> Would it be a viable way for me to learn the ropes?
24:42 <Brunius> oh, and <dead>
24:47 <Vershokk> hehe
25:00 <Steven> but we have two game days a week due to the turnover at the shop
25:18 <Steven> plus special events
25:46 <Steven> and a few games here online
26:02 <Vershokk> Do you use your tabletop characters online?
26:08 <Vershokk> or keep them seperate
26:11 <Steven> yup
26:14 <Steven> i use em here too
26:24 <Wrothmonk> when its pathfinder society you don't need to keep them separate.
26:26 <Steven> I get a chronical sheet and everything is legal
26:48 <Steven> i was gonna run something tonight, but we didnt have enough people
26:58 <Vershokk> chronical sheet?
26:59 <Wrothmonk> 3 players and a gm right?
27:13 <Vershokk> like a character sheet...but?
27:26 <Brunius> Pathfinder society is made up of a bunch of scenarios
27:31 <Brunius> which can be played in any order
27:37 <Vershokk> yeah for sure
27:45 <Brunius> so the chronicle sheet lists what you get from the scenario
27:53 <Brunius> gold, xp, treasure
27:54 <Vershokk> ah, so completing each scenario grants you a sheet
27:59 <Brunius> Exactly
28:15 <Steven> after you complete the mission, fail the mission, or get killed the result is recorded online and you are issued a chronical sheet by the GM
28:33 <Vershokk> ah! Nice :)
29:41 <Steven> you can then take that character to any other table/online room and play the same character with everything you have purchased/sold/gained/lost without having to make a new character
30:10 <Vershokk> so at the start of a game you produce your chronicle sheets to the GM?
30:42 <Vershokk> probably stupid questions =_= sorry... ha
31:11 <Wrothmonk> actually we don't seem to do that here…
31:14 <Brunius> It'd be a bit of a drag to produce all your sheets, for every player, at the start of every game
31:23 <Vershokk> I was thinking that,
31:29 <Brunius> So they're usually only called into question if the player is doing something a bit silly
31:30 <Vershokk> so really for personal reference
31:40 <Wrothmonk> Ah.
31:41 <Vershokk> cool cool
32:01 <Steven> you have to carry your sheets with you for any character you are playing
32:10 <Vershokk> fair enough
32:13 <Steven> because if asked you must be able to produce them for any GM that wants to see them
32:31 <Steven> so that they can perform an audit of your character if they desire
32:53 <Steven> however, you do not have to hand over your sheets nor submit to an audit if you do not want to
33:18 <Vershokk> and just leave the game?
33:49 <Steven> the GM has the option of turning you away from his table and notifying a venture officer of your failure to submit to an audit
34:18 <Steven> yes, you always have the option of walking away from a table... though if you do so there may be consequences for that action
34:26 <Vershokk> fair enough
34:34 <Steven> if you walk away mid conbat your character can be killed
35:00 <Steven> as it is then controlled by the GM
35:08 <Vershokk> back to the maps for a second, are modules genearllyplayed with generic maps?
35:13 <Vershokk> generally* 
35:17 <Steven> which, in the only case its ever happened to me, I managed to get it out alive...
35:56 <Steven> yeah, i draw out maps as we play
36:09 <Steven> other people own the specific flip mats for certain things
36:38 <Steven> but im not willing to drop 10 bucks everytime they come out with a new flip mat to be used in each circumstance
36:48 <Vershokk> for sure
37:07 <MekkisScreen> I use an A0 printer
37:20 <Steven> yeah mekkis uses an A0 printer
37:29 <Steven> i use a blank flip mat and a dry erase marker
37:43 <Brunius> Why does Mekkis even own an A0 printer
37:55 <Steven> cause hes a baws!
39:28 <Vershokk> ah cool, so to print an A0 at officeworks would be $9, then a few more to laminate
39:34 <Vershokk> better than $20+ i guess
39:41 <Vershokk> or probably more
41:54 <Steven> crap stack!
41:59 <Steven> i gotta do more paper work for this con
42:09 <Vershokk> thanks for your hwlp
42:11 <Vershokk> help**
42:15 <Steven> brunius... fill this out for me
42:54 <Brunius>  What's this
43:18 <Steven> Convention Support Form
43:28 <Brunius> Um, are you going to send it to me?
43:35 <Brunius> or like give me a link?
43:50 <Steven> no im just complaining
43:53 <Steven> im filling it out right now
58:25 <Steven> well... im sending mike a message about this form.... thing is pretty annoying
58:54 <Steven> wants me to list everyone's name and what they are going to GM at the con
59:05 <Steven> and i havent assigned everyone scenarios yet
59:21 <Vershokk> where abouts do you reside Steven?
00:47 <Steven> Pullman, Washington, USA
03:24 <Vershokk> oh nice! :D
04:25 <Steven> i dunno bout htat
04:32 <Vershokk> heh
04:40 <Steven> all the bastard college kids came back into town its a fuckin madhouse out there right now
05:41 <Vershokk> urghh
07:06 <Steven> ran up to the store
07:09 <Steven> ugh....
07:48 <Steven> sorority girls in their ultra pink outfits.... walking around like they are better than everyone else
07:51 <Steven> i got to scare one of them
07:59 <Steven> when she stepped infront of me in the line and i growled at her
08:17 <Vershokk> Yet another thing I like about australia
08:19 <Steven> she yelped and got behind me
08:33 <Vershokk> we dont have that shit in university
14:28 <Vershokk> would godsmouth be to full on for a first play?
17:00 <Steven> I didnt really like godsmouth
17:19 <Vershokk> why is that?
19:40 <Steven> it was mostly a dungeon crawl
19:50 <Steven> which is fine, but as an introduction to pfs
20:03 <Steven> its better to get some storyline interaction to hook people
20:56 <Vershokk> for sure
21:17 <Vershokk> aside from goblins (i really dont think that will hook 2/3 people in) can you think of another?
40:17 Vershokk has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
05:20 <Avatar> what a mind numbing day
05:52 <Avatar> not a dedicated voter for the wondrous items yet but I must be pretty damn close
05:59 <Avatar> I have no idea how anyone gets marathon or champion
06:05 <Brunius> what
06:27 <Avatar> you get titles for voting 100, 500, 1000 or 3000 times for rpg superstar's wondrous items round
06:44 <Brunius> ...
06:49 <Brunius> Riiiiiight
06:53 <Avatar> what
07:08 <Brunius> Seems a bit silly to me
07:37 <Avatar> then don't do it
07:43 <Avatar> voting is kind of addictive though
10:03 boris ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
13:47 <Steven> i do it to see what kind of stupid shit people make in home brews
15:47 <MekkisScreen> write a script to vote 300000 times
15:53 <MekkisScreen> find the stupidest item
30:09 <Avatar> there are a lot of swiss army knives
37:18 <Ballig> what do they do
37:30 <Brunius> Swiss Army stuff
39:27 <Steven> alright time to take a break from that
40:17 <Steven> got about.... half the scenarios we are playing at radcon up on the warhorn
41:37 <Steven> 19 minute expiration timer on this.... any 5-9 game you guys want me to run ill run tonight
41:55 <Brunius> fortune's blight
42:12 <Steven> You need 4 people, and ill run it
43:59 Wrothmonk has quit (Client exited)
45:23 <Avatar> there are items that do 4 or 5 different things
45:26 Wrothmonk ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
45:35 Wrothmonk ([email protected]) has left #d&d
45:39 <Avatar> crazier ones include +2 to charisma as one of those things
45:41 <Ballig> unless you want all those 4 or 5 things, it's usually not worth it
46:04 <Avatar> they're generally all good things
46:06 <Avatar> but they are overpowered
46:22 <Ballig> yeah
46:28 <Avatar> usually less than 10K for great stuff
46:28 <Ballig> people use that kind of competition as wish fulfillment fantasies
46:36 <Avatar> some are pretty creative
46:38 <Ballig> "I would love for my character to have this and it will be AWESOME AND HE CAN AFFORD IT AND BE AWESOME!"
46:52 <Avatar> some are things that sound good but you just can't see yourself ever wanting to buy
47:34 <Avatar> some are incredibly situational, where you might use it one very specific type of campaign
47:40 <Avatar> where you keep a vehicle for at least a week
48:21 <Ballig> yeah the regular rules have a few situational things too
52:18 <Avatar> they've already removed the bottom 25% of items that weren't getting enough votes
52:29 <Avatar> considering the ones that are still in there, I'd hate to see what they removed
52:36 <Ballig> well
52:46 <Ballig> it could be that people voting are succumbing to wish fulfillment too
53:02 <Ballig> thinking of items from a players' perspective rather than a developers' perspective
53:41 <Avatar> it would suck to have a great item on the chopping block because voters are voting in wish fulfillment items
54:00 <Steven> I look at it from the perspective of how well it is formatted, is it power level above other items of its cost, and does it break rules/make the gms job harder
54:25 <Ballig> it would suck for decently built items to not get any votes while the "YOU GET +2 STRENGTH AND TWENTY TIMES A DAY YOU CAN MAKE AN ATTACK THAT DOES X3 DAMAGE AND ALSO IT LETS YOU FLY AND ONLY COSTS 2,000 GOLD"
54:29 <Ballig> gets all the votes
55:25 <Steven> im fairly certain the people who are in charge of the contest are keeping an eye of the ratings and wont let AM BARBARIAN items in
55:41 <Ballig> is there a vetting process then?
56:06 <Steven> yeah
56:48 <Steven> i saw an item that was basically like a +2 dex belt that let you fly and once per day you cast vanish at caster level 12
57:01 <Avatar> yeah if I see an item that makes me think this will make the GMs job unbelievably difficult, it doesn't get my vote
57:06 <Steven> cost was like 8k
57:24 <Ballig> get rid of the fly and it might be okay
57:27 <Ballig> 12th level might be a bit excessive
57:29 <Avatar> +2 to an ability on an item, plus anything, is shit
58:03 <Steven> I dunno, theres a rod in UE that gives +4 charisma
58:04 <Avatar> if it's temporary or has some disadvantage, it might be fine
58:11 <Avatar> what rod is that
58:11 <Steven> pretty interesting item really
58:24 <Ballig> well the thing with a belt that gives +2 dex is that there already is a belt that gives +2 dex
58:26 <Steven> now i gotta go find it
58:35 <Ballig> but that one would cost twice as much and, you assume, couldn't be upgraded to a +4 like the regular one can
58:42 <Ballig> so without the fly it would be all right
58:53 <Avatar> the +2 to cha item I saw was a belt slot
59:02 <Steven> Rod of Splendor
59:36 <Steven> magically garbs you in clothing worth 1d4+6 x1000gp
59:47 <Steven> so 7-10k worth of stuff
59:55 <Ballig> sell the clothing !!!
00:00 <Steven> cant
00:09 <Avatar> the price on that rod is astronomical and the secondary powers aren't really that great
00:19 <Steven> not really
00:24 <Steven> all that great of an item
00:37 <Steven> but its still an alternate way to get +4 cha
00:43 <Avatar> 9000gp less for an almost-the-same-thing 
00:57 <Ballig> I will sell the clothing before I even take it off
01:06 <Ballig> just walk into a store and be like "Give me 2,000 and I will give you this 10k worth of stuff"
01:13 <Ballig> and they will sell it, and then I will take off the clothes and run
01:18 <Ballig> before they realise they have been had
01:26 <Steven> Apparel created by the magic of the rod remains in existence for 12 hours. However, if the possessor attempts to sell or give away any part of it, use it for a spell component, or the like, all the apparel immediately disappears. The same applies if any of it is forcibly taken from her.
01:47 <Ballig> yeah I will pretend I'm not selling it
01:58 <Ballig> "Do do do, just putting this clothing here on the floor doo do do dod... give me the gold quick! RUNNNNNN!"
02:27 <Steven> lol
12:38 <MekkisScreen> so, the Princess has used the rod of splender, and one of the young nobles grabs at her dress...
13:56 <Ballig> it has to be taken forcibly according to the description
14:08 <Ballig> it would be more like, the Princess has used a rod of splender, and a pickpocket steals one of her rings
15:28 Avatar_ ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
16:07 Avatar has quit (austnet.org!NickOP (Kill requested by Avatar_))
16:08 Avatar_ is now known as Avatar
16:56 <MekkisScreen> what if someone other than the possessor tries to use it for a spell component?
17:22 <Avatar> then rocks fall
17:37 <Ballig> that might be considered 'giving away' part of it
17:42 <Ballig> or it being forcibly taken from them
18:31 <MekkisScreen> !spell wartrain mount
18:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, WARTRAIN MOUNT enchantment (compulsion[mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, bard 2, druid 2, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, ranger 1 1 minute Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one indifferent or friendly animal Comp: V, S, M (a swatch of black cloth) Duration: 1 hour/level Save: none SR:yes
18:32 <diebot> You instill the target animal with the combat training general purpose (see the Handle Animal skill, Core Rulebook 98). This supersedes the animal's previous trained purpose and any tricks it knows. When the spell ends, it reverts to its previous trained purpose and known tricks.
34:05 <Steven> there the warhorn is all set up
34:59 <Steven> now i just need to get my GMs to organize themselves
52:50 spider21b ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
06:59 spider21b has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
26:34 <Brunius> http://redd.it/166yu1
56:31 <Steven> Mike brock is going to be going to a con in Sydney aus
57:51 <Ballig> I will go there and ask him about alignments
58:36 <Ballig> is there anything you want me to ask Mike Brock, Avatar
59:58 <Brunius> Old news, Steven
02:41 <Steven> well its pretty cool to me
23:02 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA | WotW: Jan 12th 2pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
23:02 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Jan  6 14:41:48 2013
23:02 <***> Buffer Playback...
23:02 <***> Playback Complete.
23:47 <Steven> basically, 15k to maximize your channels, draw back is a -2penalty to con for 24hrs and it deals 1d6 neg energy to channeler and 1 slashing for every dice rolled
25:17 <Steven> oh look, i channel, i take 1d6+5 damage... i heal 30 damage....
25:40 <Steven> every cleric in golarion would have one of those
26:14 <Steven> oh... it has a limit of 3 times per day
26:21 <Steven> oh noes..... only 3 times a day
32:27 <Steven> hey avatar... on your witch
32:37 <Steven> i wanna see at LEAST once
32:59 <Steven> a quickened, Empowered, Maximized Envervation okay
33:18 <Ballig> what slot does that require
33:35 <Steven> it would require some metamagic rods
33:49 <Ballig> can only use one I think
33:49 <Steven> empowered, maximized would take it to 9th
34:07 <Ballig> so he'd have to be a level 18 witch?
34:13 <Steven> im okay with this
34:14 <Ballig> 18 or 17 depending on spell progression of witches
34:40 <Steven> i think maximized is the largest jump at 3
35:11 <Steven> nope quickened is
35:13 <Steven> my bad
35:28 <Ballig> quickened is pretty powerful
35:36 <Steven> quickened is 4
35:54 <Steven> the other day i truestriked a disintigrate on somebody
35:59 <Ballig> he could do a quickened empowered maximized enervation and then a non-quickened one
36:25 <Steven> enervation is a 4th, so... yeah level 9 spell, would require a rod
36:32 <Steven> of quicken
36:35 <Ballig> sure would suck to do the quickened maximised empowered enervation and roll a 1 on the attack
36:36 <Steven> just blam blam
36:48 <Steven> for sure....
36:54 <Steven> but still....
37:05 <Steven> a chance for 12 negative levels on somebody
37:15 <Ballig> it isn't 6?
37:19 <Ballig> thought empowered was 1.5
37:42 <Steven> it is, you maximize, empower, quicken rod, for one and then regular cast the second
37:50 <Ballig> oh right, doing two
38:09 <Steven> take a big bad from scary to no problem though
38:34 <Ballig> not dead though :(
38:37 <Ballig> at that level
39:12 <Steven> not dead
39:18 <Steven> but a whole hell of a lot less scary
39:38 <Steven> thats like 60 less hp
40:34 <Steven> -12 to hit
40:50 <Steven> -12 dice to any fireball/lightning bolt or whatever
41:13 <Steven> cant be displeased with those results lol
42:54 <Steven> ballig you gonna play in WotW?
43:06 <Ballig> no
43:26 <Steven> too bad, i have a feeling you would be a decent evil person
46:32 <Steven> Kapow what you gonna play?
46:41 <Steven> I'm playing a blight druid
47:58 <Steven> well..... sorta
54:42 <Steven> blight druid/Souldrinker
57:31 <Steven> blight druids are so bad ass
57:37 <Steven> at 5th level
58:21 <Steven> if a creature starts its turn adjacent to me, its gotta make a fort save of at that time, DC19 or become sickened
58:40 <Steven> animals fey or plants are instead nauseated and then sicked for a minute
00:22 <Ballig> does that include while you're in wild shape?
02:46 <Steven> its an extrodinary ability
03:08 <Steven> I only get one wildshape per day
03:15 <Steven> with how im building my character
03:25 <Ballig> do you expect to have enemies being adjacent to you regularly
03:33 <Steven> no
03:42 <Steven> its just a cool ability
04:14 <Steven> it will help in those momments when somebody comes to grapple me... oh your grappling me... make a fort save... oh you fail well you're sickened
04:53 <Steven> they probably wont want to touch me once i start down the soul drinker path anyways
05:04 <Steven> because i can start making touch attacks that drain levels
31:32 boris has quit (*.net *.split)
31:32 kapow_znc has quit (*.net *.split)
31:32 MekkisScreen has quit (*.net *.split)
31:32 Mekkis_x200 has quit (*.net *.split)
31:32 S711 has quit (*.net *.split)
32:06 boris ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
33:36 S711 ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
33:59 kapow_znc ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
42:21 MekkisScreen ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
51:10 Mekkis_x200 ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
02:07 Sutekh ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
22:34 <Sutekh> Quick Question: Which is the more relevant book nowadays : Seeker of Secrets or Pathfinder Society Field Guide?
25:21 <Brunius> PFS Field Guide
27:06 <Sutekh> thanks
28:47 Brunius has quit (Quit: 'murica)
11:22 <Mekkis> seeker of secrets has Boon Companion in it
11:35 <Mekkis> if Your Local Player is using Boon Companion, he should have a copyt
25:08 <Vershokk> Would it be a viable way for me to learn the ropes?
25:09 <Brunius> oh, and <dead>
25:15 <Vershokk> hehe
25:27 <Steven> but we have two game days a week due to the turnover at the shop
25:45 <Steven> plus special events
26:13 <Steven> and a few games here online
26:30 <Vershokk> Do you use your tabletop characters online?
26:35 <Vershokk> or keep them seperate
26:38 <Steven> yup
26:41 <Steven> i use em here too
26:51 <Wrothmonk> when its pathfinder society you don't need to keep them separate.
26:54 <Steven> I get a chronical sheet and everything is legal
27:15 <Steven> i was gonna run something tonight, but we didnt have enough people
27:25 <Vershokk> chronical sheet?
27:26 <Wrothmonk> 3 players and a gm right?
27:40 <Vershokk> like a character sheet...but?
27:53 <Brunius> Pathfinder society is made up of a bunch of scenarios
27:58 <Brunius> which can be played in any order
28:04 <Vershokk> yeah for sure
28:12 <Brunius> so the chronicle sheet lists what you get from the scenario
28:21 <Brunius> gold, xp, treasure
28:21 <Vershokk> ah, so completing each scenario grants you a sheet
28:26 <Brunius> Exactly
28:42 <Steven> after you complete the mission, fail the mission, or get killed the result is recorded online and you are issued a chronical sheet by the GM
29:00 <Vershokk> ah! Nice :)
30:08 <Steven> you can then take that character to any other table/online room and play the same character with everything you have purchased/sold/gained/lost without having to make a new character
30:37 <Vershokk> so at the start of a game you produce your chronicle sheets to the GM?
31:10 <Vershokk> probably stupid questions =_= sorry... ha
31:39 <Wrothmonk> actually we don't seem to do that here…
31:41 <Brunius> It'd be a bit of a drag to produce all your sheets, for every player, at the start of every game
31:50 <Vershokk> I was thinking that,
31:57 <Brunius> So they're usually only called into question if the player is doing something a bit silly
31:57 <Vershokk> so really for personal reference
32:08 <Wrothmonk> Ah.
32:08 <Vershokk> cool cool
32:28 <Steven> you have to carry your sheets with you for any character you are playing
32:38 <Vershokk> fair enough
32:40 <Steven> because if asked you must be able to produce them for any GM that wants to see them
32:59 <Steven> so that they can perform an audit of your character if they desire
33:21 <Steven> however, you do not have to hand over your sheets nor submit to an audit if you do not want to
33:45 <Vershokk> and just leave the game?
34:16 <Steven> the GM has the option of turning you away from his table and notifying a venture officer of your failure to submit to an audit
34:45 <Steven> yes, you always have the option of walking away from a table... though if you do so there may be consequences for that action
34:53 <Vershokk> fair enough
35:01 <Steven> if you walk away mid conbat your character can be killed
35:27 <Steven> as it is then controlled by the GM
35:35 <Vershokk> back to the maps for a second, are modules genearllyplayed with generic maps?
35:40 <Vershokk> generally* 
35:44 <Steven> which, in the only case its ever happened to me, I managed to get it out alive...
36:23 <Steven> yeah, i draw out maps as we play
36:36 <Steven> other people own the specific flip mats for certain things
37:05 <Steven> but im not willing to drop 10 bucks everytime they come out with a new flip mat to be used in each circumstance
37:16 <Vershokk> for sure
37:34 <MekkisScreen> I use an A0 printer
37:47 <Steven> yeah mekkis uses an A0 printer
37:56 <Steven> i use a blank flip mat and a dry erase marker
38:10 <Brunius> Why does Mekkis even own an A0 printer
38:23 <Steven> cause hes a baws!
39:56 <Vershokk> ah cool, so to print an A0 at officeworks would be $9, then a few more to laminate
40:01 <Vershokk> better than $20+ i guess
40:08 <Vershokk> or probably more
42:22 <Steven> crap stack!
42:26 <Steven> i gotta do more paper work for this con
42:36 <Vershokk> thanks for your hwlp
42:38 <Vershokk> help**
42:43 <Steven> brunius... fill this out for me
43:22 <Brunius>  What's this
43:45 <Steven> Convention Support Form
43:55 <Brunius> Um, are you going to send it to me?
44:02 <Brunius> or like give me a link?
44:17 <Steven> no im just complaining
44:20 <Steven> im filling it out right now
58:46 <Sutekh> not as far as I know
58:52 <Steven> well... im sending mike a message about this form.... thing is pretty annoying
58:57 * Sutekh still hates the wording on that feat
59:21 <Steven> wants me to list everyone's name and what they are going to GM at the con
59:32 <Steven> and i havent assigned everyone scenarios yet
59:48 <Vershokk> where abouts do you reside Steven?
Search this day's buffer: