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00:01 <Avatar> god I must be tired
00:07 <Mekkis> it's midnight
00:12 <Mekkis> I'm sleeping now
00:17 <Avatar> gg
00:20 <Mekkis> I wish prayer beads were cheaper :(
00:26 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/beads-prayer-strand
05:06 <Mekkis> I think Defunct will appear to be my eidolon this time
02:58 <Brunius> Genius
03:00 <Brunius> With Spaceshot
03:01 <Avatar> oh really
03:04 <Avatar> that's right
03:07 <Brunius> and that guy from Sydders
03:15 <Brunius> On Bairaq
03:19 <Brunius> The lawful stupid Paladin
03:21 <Avatar> siht, has mekkis played it
03:26 <Avatar> yeah, luke parry
14:48 <Steven> yeah they are pretty well trained animals
15:18 <Steven> all 3 of them let you know when they want to go outside
15:59 <Avatar> I put a bunch of ranks into linguistics and have to choose 4 new languages
16:03 <Avatar> I'm really running out of decent choices
16:24 <Avatar> I can even already lip read
16:41 <Avatar> something I should probably communicate to my party more often
17:00 <Brunius> Yeah
17:07 <Brunius> So I can put silence on my weapon
17:27 <Steven> these are honey's languages
17:28 <Steven> Common, Celestial, Draconic, Sylvan, Aklo, Goblin, Necril, Abyssal, Infernal, Azlanti, Osiriani, Ancient Osiriani, Sphinx, Shoanti, Treant, Aboleth, Sign Language, Vaarisian, Thessalonian, Aquan, Ignan, Auran, Terran, Jistka, Tekritanin, Elder Thing, Garuda, Vegepygmy
17:31 <Brunius> can you take thassilonian?
17:35 <Brunius> tean?
17:38 <Brunius> tien even
17:43 <Avatar> yeah I just took thassilonian
17:47 <Avatar> steven that is crazy
17:58 <Avatar> what the hell is sphinx
18:00 <Avatar> is that a language
18:07 <Avatar> and elder thing
18:09 <Steven> yes, it is the language of the sphinx
18:20 <Avatar> did you make some of those up
18:22 <Avatar> I don't recognise them
18:33 <Steven> I went to the pathfinder wiki and looked up languages
18:43 <Steven> some of them are rare/dead languages
19:10 <Steven> and i dont care if i ever use them
19:38 <Steven> after i finished learning the elemental languages, i just picked random shit
19:48 <Brunius> brb switching to mobile
20:01 <Avatar> are the elemental languages more important than dwarven, gnome, halfling
20:15 <Steven> well dwarves, gnomes, and halfings all speak common
20:33 <Avatar> yeah but sometimes they like to speak in code to each other and that pisses me off a bit
20:58 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I can count on one hand the number of times elemental languages have come up
21:21 <Steven> well what would make you more angry... two dwarves talkin shit about you or two earth elementals discussing advanced tactics on how to kill you
21:31 <Avatar> well said
21:40 <Steven> well i suppose which would be less pleasent to go through?
21:51 <Avatar> I won't take aquan, because I'm a witch
21:57 <Avatar> :o)
22:31 <Steven> i dotn get the reference
23:05 <Brunius-> Witches float in water
23:06 <Avatar> water melts witches
23:20 <Brunius-> Because it rejects their impurities
23:26 <Steven> ah... the whole wizard of oz things
23:50 <Avatar> yeah snickers is based off that witch
24:13 <Steven> well... that means you should pick it up incase you ever run into someone speaking aquan plotting on dousing you in water
24:21 <Steven> then... you would know...
24:34 <Avatar> maybe, but that can be part of the joke
24:48 <Avatar> that's all it is, she doesn't actually melt in water
24:56 <Avatar> she just has an aversion to it for no good reason
25:11 <Avatar> can't speak the language
25:14 <Avatar> etc
25:36 <Avatar> maybe I have to rub it in people's faces more that I have green skin
25:50 <Brunius-> I think you should
25:59 <Avatar> nobody seems to really be able to get it
26:28 <Brunius-> I've never seen wizard of oz all the easy through
26:43 <Steven> you totaly should
26:59 <Brunius-> Sounds boring
27:12 <Avatar> what you should have seen was Wicked when it was here
27:15 <Brunius-> I should play some sweet pfs instead
27:21 <Avatar> that musical was fucking amazing
27:28 <Avatar> inspired a character
27:31 <Avatar> I mean cmon
27:46 <Brunius-> Musicals are silly
27:54 <Avatar> not this one
28:03 <Avatar> I just got teleport 
28:04 <Steven> brunius=lost cause
28:40 <Avatar> I usually wouldn't think much of musicals either
28:51 <Avatar> I thought it would be a bit retarded, I only went because I got free tickets from work
29:04 <Avatar> blown away by what it actually was
30:06 <Avatar> I can take cloudkill now
30:43 <Avatar> and stinking cloud is a 3rd level witch spell too
30:46 <Avatar> what is that staff
30:58 <Brunius-> Toxins
31:05 <Brunius-> Staff of toxins
31:12 <Avatar> I don't have 34K gp lying around
31:13 <Brunius-> Apg
31:19 <Brunius-> I think
31:43 <Avatar> so can you just buy the same item out of one book if it's cheaper 
31:52 <Avatar> how does that work
32:51 <Steven> hmmmmm which character to give credit too... 1-5 character
33:07 <Steven> i guess my boarderline evil Andoran
33:47 <Brunius-> Time to level Bairaq
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35:22 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jan 21 16:33:05 2013
35:22 <***> Buffer Playback...
35:23 <***> Playback Complete.
35:30 <Steven> one more game and Bari is level 5 woot woot
36:05 <Brunius-> Hmm...11k
36:19 <Brunius-> I feel like I should buy something
36:22 <Steven> then i can take boon companion so my wolvarine isnt completly fucking useless
37:44 <Steven> sadly it also means i no longer have a character at level 4
37:49 <Avatar> steven what's the rule on pricing with the same item in different books
37:54 <Avatar> at different prices
38:07 <Steven> I would say.... consult ultimate equipment
38:11 <Steven> and go by that price
38:30 <Steven> if its not on there consult the forums
38:39 <Brunius-> Woot I have a
38:48 <Brunius-> Dex bonus
39:02 <Steven> holy testical blowfish!
39:03 <Avatar> oh there's actually a FAQ for it
39:22 <Avatar> the FAQ seems to be wrong too
39:36 <Avatar> No, the staves in the Advanced Player's Guide are incorrectly priced and should be double the listed price. These staves have been reprinted in Ultimate Equipment with the correct price.
39:50 <Avatar> the one we're talking about is about triple the price in UE
39:55 <Avatar> so which is it
40:33 <Steven> whatever the listed price in ultimate equipment
40:42 <Steven> if its not in ultimate equipment, consult the forums
40:53 <Brunius-> A bunch of the ones in the a apg are outlawed
41:12 <Brunius-> Are you sure the apg is a legal source for this
43:19 <Avatar> I have to assume UE is correct and the FAQ is full of shit
43:20 <Brunius-> Average of 1d10 is 6?
43:30 <Avatar> 5.5
43:44 <Brunius-> How much hp do I get
43:54 <Brunius-> I can't get to a computer
44:00 <Avatar> paladin?
44:01 <Brunius-> To check
44:03 <Brunius-> Tracy
44:08 <Brunius-> Yeah
44:19 <Avatar> 6
44:26 <Brunius-> Why is yeah further down than Tracy
44:43 <Brunius-> On the list of autocorrect
44:54 <Avatar> who is tracy, is she hot
44:58 <Brunius-> Thanks Avatar
45:03 <Avatar> np
45:07 <Brunius-> I don't even know a Tracy
46:34 <Avatar> staff of curses could be good, if I can scrounge together 43000gp
47:10 * Steven honey lends avatar the funds
47:16 <Steven> if only right?
47:37 <Avatar> i'm probably close to being able to afford it
47:39 <Brunius-> Sweet, another level 2 spell
47:57 <Brunius-> Uh, 1
48:06 <Brunius-> No that's right
48:09 <Brunius-> 2
48:41 <Steven> my ranger gets a spell!
49:07 <Steven> oh mans....
49:07 <Steven> what should i pick
49:32 <Avatar> what's your shortlist
49:47 <Brunius-> Do you need to pick
50:17 <Brunius-> Or can you be like 'lol I change it every day'
50:33 <Steven> i dont need to pick, but i need to prepare one
50:49 <Steven> sadly i dont think lead blades works with natural attacks....
51:28 <Avatar> !item staff of cackling wrath
51:30 <Brunius-> +2 divine bond!
51:42 <diebot> Avatar, STAFF OF CACKLING WRATH [moderate varies] CL:8 none 47200gp, 5lb
51:42 <diebot> The thorns embedded in this gnarled length of wood make it rather tricky for the unwary to grasp. It allows use of the following spells:   • Blindness/deafness (1 charge)   • Charm person (1 charge)   • Hold person (1 charge)   • Inflict moderate wounds (1 charge)   • Baleful polymorph (2 charges)   • Bestow curse (2 charges)   •
51:43 <diebot> Vampiric touch (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
53:50 <Brunius-> Bloody slavers
53:59 <Steven> i suppose magic fang it is
54:25 <Brunius-> !item ring of gj
54:27 <diebot> Brunius-, RING OF TRUTH [moderate enchantment] CL:9 ring 0gp, 0lb
54:27 <diebot> Deceptively pleasant looking, a ring of truth bears images of childlike angels and broadly smiling divine creatures holding onto links of a heavy chain. The wearer of this cursed ring is rendered unable to tell a deliberate lie, in either speech or writing. The wearer may simply omit the truth or choose not to communicate, but even then must
54:28 <diebot> succeed on a DC 20 Will saving throw to avoid answering a direct question truthfully. The wearer cannot remove the ring unless the magic of the curse is negated. Source: APG
57:28 <Brunius-> What is good for a paladin
57:32 <Brunius-> For 11k
58:11 <Steven> an atonement spell...
58:17 <Steven> go out and murder an innocent...
58:27 <Steven> see how the other half live their lives
58:48 <Brunius-> ...
59:38 <Steven> a cape of the Montebank isnt a bad choice either
00:22 <Brunius-> That's the get out of grapple one, isn't out
00:22 <Brunius-> It
00:46 <Steven> well thats one use of it
01:00 <Brunius-> Silly phone
01:08 <Steven> its dimension door
01:13 <Steven> its pretty damned useful
01:21 <Brunius-> Ooooooooh
01:46 <Brunius-> !item cape of the mont
01:50 <diebot> Brunius-, EYE OF THE MANTIS [moderate divination] CL:9 none 2000gp, 0lb
01:50 <diebot> Created by the Red Mantis Assassins, this 1-inch red marble statue depicts a tiny praying mantis. When the command word is uttered, the mantis comes to life and moves as its owner instructs, as per a sensor eye from a prying eye spell. The mantis remains animated for up to 9 hours or until it returns to the bearer and replays what it saw, at which
01:50 <diebot> point it reverts to statue form for 1 day. Source: Faction Guide
02:08 <Brunius-> !item cape of the moun
02:09 <diebot> Brunius-, HAND OF THE MAGE [faint transmutation] CL:2 neck 900gp, 2lb
02:10 <diebot> This mummified elf hand hangs by a golden chain around a character's neck (taking up space as a magic necklace would). It allows the wearer to utilize the spell mage hand at will. Source: Ultimate Equipment
02:15 <Brunius-> ...
02:34 <Brunius-> Is this just ignoring what I'm saying
02:38 <Steven> !item montebank
02:39 <diebot> Steven, MOLVëNN [strong necromancy and transmutation] CL:15 none 63312gp, 5lb
02:39 <diebot> This heavy warhammer is capped with steel spikes on both ends of its massive head, and a leather thong prevents it from falling from the wielder's hand. Molv&#235;nn is a +3 warhammer that deals both piercing and bludgeoning damage. Yet although it is already a formidable weapon, its true potential is only realized in the hands of a barbarian.
02:39 <diebot> Wielded by a barbarian, Molv&#235;nn becomes a +5 thundering warhammer. The barbarian gains an additional 1 hit point per barbarian level when raging and can add twice her Strength modifier (instead of half again her Strength modifier) to damage rolls while wielding Molv&#235;nn two-handed. Additionally, while Molv&#235;nn's wielder is raging, she
02:39 <diebot> cannot be disarmed, nor can Molv&#235;nn be sundered. Source: AP 34
02:54 <Steven> i think mekkis set it to troll mode
02:58 <Brunius-> What's it from
03:51 <Brunius-> The cape
04:16 <Avatar> !item cape of the mountebank
04:17 <Avatar> it's from UE
04:18 <diebot> Avatar, CAPE OF THE MOUNTEBANK [moderate conjuration] CL:9 shoulders 10800gp, 1lb
04:18 <diebot> Once per day on command, this bright red and gold cape allows the wearer to use the magic of the dimension door spell. When he disappears, he leaves behind a cloud of harmless gray smoke, appearing in a similar dramatic fashion at his destination. Source: Ultimate Equipment
04:30 <Brunius-> Oh
04:49 <Avatar> unfettered shirt is another one worth looking at
04:56 <Avatar> same thing, chest slot, freedom of movement
05:23 <Brunius-> That won't stack with armor will it
05:27 <Brunius-> The shirt
05:51 <Mekkis> especially at season 4
05:53 <Mekkis> ja?
06:00 <Avatar> is a ring of protection worth it at this point
06:03 <Avatar> yeah
06:06 <Mekkis> what's your AC?
06:09 <Avatar> it's not armour
06:10 <Avatar> 24
06:14 <Avatar> it's a chest slot wondrous item
06:18 <Mekkis> somewhat
06:22 <Avatar> somewhere maybe I think
06:22 <Mekkis> for deceased, it isn't
06:30 <Avatar> yeah not if you have a 13 AC
06:34 <Brunius-> Can it be worn with armour
06:38 <Avatar> with snickers I've accepted that hits always hit
06:38 <Avatar> yes
06:50 <Mekkis> same with deceased
06:52 <Brunius-> Kewl
07:02 <Mekkis> If I were you, I'd get snickers a staff
07:11 <Mekkis> or save for one
07:12 <Avatar> sorry my initial yeah was yeah it will stack with armour
07:16 <Brunius-> !item unfettered shirt
07:18 <diebot> Brunius-, UNFETTERED SHIRT [moderate abjuration and transmutation] CL:7 chest 10000gp, 0lb
07:18 <diebot> This loose, often ruffled, shirt is cut in a style designed to avoid hindering its wearer's movement.   Once per day on command, the wearer can gain the benefits of freedom of movement for 10 minutes. Source: Ultimate Equipment
07:43 <Avatar> I really can't figure staves out
07:44 <Brunius-> Why is everything on ultimate equipment
07:44 <Avatar> snickers has one of those babies and I am foolish not to get one for buck yet
07:49 <Mekkis> Steven, you were wrong
07:53 <Mekkis> easy to explain
07:56 <Avatar> she can afford one I'm pretty sure, she's loaded
07:59 <Mekkis> !item staff of stealth
08:01 <Brunius-> Maybe I should get these things as pdfs
08:13 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF STEALTH [moderate illusion] CL:8 none 36800gp, 5lb
08:13 <diebot> This twisted, dark gray staff allows use of the following spells:   • Disguise self (1 charge)   • Invisibility (1 charge)   • Nondetection (1 charge)   • Greater invisibility (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
08:16 <Mekkis> not a bad idea
08:18 <Avatar> UE didn't look very good at all when it came out
08:25 <Avatar> but it has a lot of good shit
08:27 <Avatar> she can't cast those spells
08:29 <Mekkis> define "very good"
08:35 <Mekkis> really?
08:39 <Avatar> yeah
08:44 <Avatar> staves that cost 3x as much as we want them to
08:51 <Mekkis> as in "not on witch list"?
08:57 <Avatar> yeah
09:13 <Avatar> she has UMD
09:20 <Mekkis> all of them?
09:20 <Avatar> which I'd actually like to invest in
09:37 <Mekkis> what's her UMD?
09:38 <Mekkis> +19?
09:42 <Avatar> yeah I think so, I am pretty familiar with the witch list and I don't recall any of those
09:48 <Avatar> the exception is with the deception patron
09:53 <Avatar> UMD is 13
10:37 <Avatar> I only know the deception patron because I almost took it
10:49 <Avatar> until UM came out at about the same time and I took the time patron instead
10:58 <Avatar> which gives me things like haste and teleport
11:01 <Mekkis> !item Staff of charming
11:08 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF CHARMING [moderate enchantment] CL:8 none 17600gp, 5lb
11:08 <diebot> Made of twisting wood ornately shaped and carved, this staff allows use of the following spells:   • Charm person (1 charge)   • Charm monster (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
11:22 <Mekkis> let's take that for example
11:53 <Avatar> I get how it works with casting
11:54 <Mekkis> you buy it. It has 10 charges
11:55 <Avatar> how about recharging
12:26 <Mekkis> at the end of the scenario, if you can cast /any/ spell that the staff contains, you can fully recharge it
12:54 <Avatar> hang on, so you buy it with 10 charges? but it says 1 and 2 charges there
13:07 <Mekkis> casting Charm Person uses 1 charge
13:13 <Avatar> ohhhh
13:13 <Mekkis> casting Charm Monster uses 2 charges
13:28 <Avatar> with a max of 10 charges on every staff?
13:35 <Mekkis> essentially, it's giving you 5 more level 4 spell slots
13:35 <Mekkis> yeah
13:41 <Mekkis> that must be used on Charm Monster
13:42 <Avatar> jesus!
13:46 <Mekkis> yeah
13:49 <Mekkis> They Are Good!
13:49 <Avatar> that will be moved to the top of the priority list
14:22 <Avatar> UMDing spells into it won't work
14:31 <Avatar> I just have to find some witch-friendly staves
14:34 <Mekkis> no, but UMDing spells out of it does!
14:37 <Mekkis> oh
14:38 <Avatar> I'd never use charm 
14:55 <Avatar> no good UMDing them out if I can't recharge the damn thing
15:01 <Mekkis> and it uses your casting stat, and caster level (or the staff's, whichever is higher)
15:08 <Avatar> that'll be good if you drop and I can pick up your staff maybe
15:16 <Avatar> yeah that part I remember
15:28 <Mekkis> it's like a sorcerer you can carry in one hand !
15:36 <Avatar> ha
16:11 <Mekkis> !item Staff of Toxins
16:16 <diebot> Mekkis, STAFF OF TOXINS [moderate varies] CL:9 none 34200gp, 5lb
16:16 <diebot> This length of hemlock-shrouded oak gives off the faintest whiff of rot and corruption. It allows use of the following spells:   • Stinking cloud (1 charge)   • Cloudkill (2 charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
16:34 <Avatar> those are on the witch list
16:35 <Mekkis> that's what Deceased has
16:44 <Avatar> man what book is that in
16:49 <Avatar> UE
16:50 <Mekkis> except that he picked it up at the pre-UE clearance sale...
17:03 <Avatar> for how much
17:05 <Mekkis> (when it cost 12600)
17:11 <Mekkis> (see APG)
17:11 <Avatar> that's disgusting
17:53 <Mekkis> and no, although there are rules for creating your own staves, like there are for creating your own wands, you can't use them in PFS
18:10 <Avatar> my armor on Buck is only +1 and not wearing a ring of protection
18:14 <Avatar> I could probably serious buff that up
18:19 <Avatar> seriously*
18:20 <Mekkis> not a bad idea
18:44 <Mekkis> should I blatently break Defunct?
19:05 <Avatar> which character has defunct
19:12 <Mekkis> Deceased
19:13 <Mekkis> SomethingBane Amulet of Mighty Fists, 
19:38 <Avatar> I could break buck by giving him more damage completely unnecessarily but I'm kind of deciding against it
19:49 <Avatar> nobody likes a broken character
19:55 <Mekkis> yeah
20:01 <Mekkis> I think Defunct will break himself
20:17 <Mekkis> probably the only thing I will do is cast Greater Magic Fang on him
20:28 <Mekkis> and Disguise Self
20:38 <Mekkis> !spell Disguise Self
20:42 <diebot> Mekkis, DISGUISE SELF illusion (glamer[]) bard 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, alchemist 1, inquisitor 1, antipaladin 1 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: V, S Duration: 10 min./level Save:  SR:
20:42 <diebot> You make yourself--including clothing, armor, weapons, and equipmen--look different. You can seem 1 foot shorter or taller, thin, fat, or in between. You cannot change your creature type (although you can appear as another subtype). Otherwise, the extent of the apparent change is up to you. You could add or obscure a minor feature or look like an
20:43 <diebot> entirely different person or gender.  The spell does not provide the abilities or mannerisms of the chosen form, nor does it alter the perceived tactile (touch) or audible (sound) properties of you or your equipment. If you use this spell to create a disguise, you get a +10 bonus on the Disguise check. A creature that interacts with the glamer gets
20:43 <diebot> a Will save to recognize it as an illusion.
22:25 <Avatar> I don't actually know what defunct is
22:29 <Mekkis> I'd rather bring Deceased or Itzamna: better to have a front-line entity, right
22:45 <Mekkis> you weren't there when Matt made me explain?
22:54 <Avatar> yeah but I didn't quite understand
23:05 <Avatar> sounded like an animal companion but not?
23:11 <Mekkis> Defunct is an imp with Alternate Form (Leopard)
23:18 <Mekkis> as an imp, he's an outsider
23:25 <Avatar> ohh deceased is the diabolist
23:33 <Avatar> that makes it clearer
23:41 <Mekkis> he's built using a mishmash of the familiar and animal companion rules
24:25 <Mekkis> as an outsider, /Disguise Self/ can make him appear to be anything from a lemure to a Planetar
25:04 <Mekkis> oh, and Nightmare levelled up!
25:12 <Mekkis> after only a year and a half!
25:20 <Avatar> to what level
25:27 <Mekkis> 3!
25:28 <Mekkis> and 4!
25:43 <Mekkis> he got 3.5XP today
25:53 <Avatar> how does that work
25:57 <Mekkis> well, 2.5XP, then he hit 3 and applied a chronicle sheet
26:21 <Mekkis> he played Murder's Mark, and got 2.5XP
26:24 <Avatar> what?
26:32 <Mekkis> module
26:47 <Avatar> modules are worth 3 exp aren't they
26:49 <Mekkis> yeah
26:55 <Mekkis> he was on slow progression
27:02 <Avatar> okay, so 1.5
27:10 <Mekkis> Darkwhite said to do it the logical way
27:37 <Avatar> what's illogical about it, isn't that how slow track works
27:56 <Mekkis> not if you're switching to normal track when you level
28:38 <Avatar> don't understand
30:19 <Mekkis> I'll explain tomorrow
30:42 <Avatar> I'm not going to understand anything tomorrow morning
30:47 <Avatar> not a morning person
30:50 <Avatar> I don't know how you do it
31:04 <Mekkis> coffee
32:08 <Mekkis> oh
32:13 <Mekkis> I don't need to level Deceased
32:25 <Mekkis> I will after tomorrow's session
33:16 <Mekkis> Avatar, could you print off http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Defunct_leopard.pdf and http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Defunct_spider.pdf please?
33:46 <Mekkis> pity
33:55 <Avatar> if I can get my printer working again
34:04 <Avatar> I don't know what got it upset last time
34:11 <Mekkis> Deceased doesn't get to knock over low-level paladins :S
46:59 <Mekkis> who was kinevon?
47:14 <Avatar> what do you mean
47:27 <Avatar> kinevon is kinevon
48:15 <Mekkis> did I ran Sanos for you?
48:31 <Avatar> yeah
49:42 <Avatar> marty is his real name, if that helps?
49:52 <Mekkis> I've got it
50:01 <Mekkis> he's sent me a message on paizo
51:35 <Mekkis> Mytiazair's saving for a Staff of Many Rays
51:42 <Mekkis> ~30000gp
52:31 <Avatar> !item staff of many rays
52:42 <diebot> Avatar, STAFF OF MANY RAYS [moderate evocation and necromancy] CL:11 none 57200gp, 5lb
52:49 <diebot> The elaborate swirls and delicate flecks of shining metal adorning the head of this pale wooden shaft make it seem almost as much a long mace as a staff. It allows use of the following spells:   • Ray of enfeeblement (1 charge)   • Ray of exhaustion (1 charge)   • Scorching ray (1 charge)   • Enervation (2 charges)   • Disintegrate (3
52:49 <diebot> charges) Source: Ultimate Equipment
52:55 <Avatar> ~57000gp
52:59 <Mekkis> no
53:07 <Mekkis> not if he makes it his bonded item
53:09 <Avatar> according to that
53:21 <Avatar> I don't understand bonded item creation rules
53:24 <Mekkis> then he can craft it, and pay 50%
53:42 <Avatar> where is the rule for that
53:51 <Avatar> PFS guide?
54:00 <Mekkis> A wizard can add additional magic abilities to his bonded object as if he has the required Item Creation Feats and if he meets the level prerequisites of the feat.
54:11 <Mekkis> emphasis on /as if/
54:52 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/faq#v5748eaic9owx
55:00 <Avatar> yeah fair enough
55:25 <Mekkis> If a caster selects a non-magical item as his arcane bond, and the player later wishes to upgrade it, he may do so for the cost (not price) of the final item as listed in the item's statblock. 
57:02 <Avatar> crystal clear
57:27 <Mekkis> it's a little more than 57200/2 because he has to break his existing bond
57:35 <Mekkis> which is 200gp per wizard level
58:11 <Mekkis> and I'm /pretty sure/ that when it says 200gp per wizard level, it means 200gp per caster level
58:28 <Mekkis> or 200gp per effective wizard level
58:47 <Mekkis> otherwise it's an incentive to prestige out of wizard
59:01 <Avatar> ug rings of protection are expensive
59:35 <Mekkis> 2000*enchantment squared
59:53 <Avatar> a +2 is 8000gp
00:09 <Mekkis> indeed
00:22 <Avatar> oh enchantment squared
00:26 <Avatar> I thought that said enchantment required
00:31 <Avatar> god I must be tired
00:38 <Mekkis> it's midnight
00:43 <Mekkis> I'm sleeping now
00:47 <Avatar> gg
00:51 <Mekkis> I wish prayer beads were cheaper :(
00:58 <Mekkis> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/beads-prayer-strand
05:37 <Mekkis> I think Defunct will appear to be my eidolon this time
37:32 <Avatar> andrei wants to play that game outside the college tonight
22:35 <Avatar> can't work out my printer issue
25:33 <Wrothmonk> Have you tried googling the error your getting?
25:44 <Avatar> the error I'm getting is "printer offline"
25:52 <Wrothmonk> is the printer on?
25:57 <Avatar> and the help it gives me is "check your computer screen and printer screen. try clear the error messages and see if that works"
26:06 <Avatar> of course the printer is on
26:26 <Wrothmonk> seriously thats the help it gives you?
26:43 <Avatar> yeah I know hey
27:00 <Avatar> whoever wrote that help file should be fired
27:46 <Wrothmonk> Wireless or wire printer?
27:53 <Avatar> wireless
27:58 <Avatar> I gotta run
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06:44 <Brunius-> !item unfettered shirt
06:46 <diebot> Brunius-, UNFETTERED SHIRT [moderate abjuration and transmutation] CL:7 chest 10000gp, 0lb
06:46 <diebot> This loose, often ruffled, shirt is cut in a style designed to avoid hindering its wearer's movement.   Once per day on command, the wearer can gain the benefits of freedom of movement for 10 minutes. Source: Ultimate Equipment
07:12 <Brunius-> Why is everything on ultimate equipment
07:12 <Avatar> snickers has one of those babies and I am foolish not to get one for buck yet
07:16 <Mekkis> Steven, you were wrong
07:28 <Brunius-> Maybe I should get these things as pdfs
07:43 <Mekkis> not a bad idea
07:46 <Avatar> UE didn't look very good at all when it came out
07:53 <Avatar> but it has a lot of good shit
07:56 <Mekkis> define "very good"
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08:23 <Avatar> found a few that are witch-friendly
08:31 <Avatar> cost in the 40 thousands though
08:39 <Brunius-> Mekkis: I'd have to print them all, though
08:41 <Mekkis> staves are always expensive
08:50 <Mekkis> Brunius-, not really, just the pages you need
09:32 <Steven> what was i wrong about this time?
09:58 <Mekkis> <Steven> [08:02:54] i think mekkis set it to troll mode
10:17 <Steven> it doesnt have a troll mode?
10:20 <Steven> if it doesnt you should set one up
10:20 <Mekkis> no
10:36 <Mekkis> it's the way the algorithm works
10:43 <Avatar> need another scenario or two before I can get those big staves
11:34 <Mekkis> I'll never play another special at 5-6.
12:06 <Mekkis> looks like they always have the hardest time
12:24 <Steven> all the best rewards take place at the 12+ tables
12:32 <Mekkis> sure
12:43 <Mekkis> but not everyone has 12+ characters
13:19 <Steven> people need to get on it!
13:44 <diebot> Updating database. Queries might be slow and/or incorrect.
14:47 <diebot> Updating items.
15:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should have bought the APG staves :P
16:44 <diebot> Items updated. Updating spells.
19:19 <diebot> Spells updated. Updating Feats.
20:38 <diebot> Feats updated. Copying and compressing database.
21:05 <diebot> Complete. Database should be available at http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/pathfinder.db.bz2
21:21 <diebot> Have a nice day.
22:05 <Mekkis> Avatar, you wanted that database?
22:26 <Steven> so, i been thinkin... we need to talk ballig into running some 7-11 games for us
22:34 <Mekkis> why Ballig?
22:41 <Mekkis> as opposed to, say, me?
22:56 <Steven> because you have characters in the correct range
23:02 <Mekkis> oh
23:04 <Steven> i dont know about balligs characters
23:11 <Ballig> I have two characters in the 7-11 range
23:11 <Mekkis> and balls doesn't?
24:06 <Steven> i dont care who runs it, except me, i dont want to run them right now lol
24:39 <Steven> But yeah, we coudl do fury of th efiend, forbidden furance of forgotten koor, king of the storval stairs, and feast of sigils...
25:37 <Steven> i would be up to running high end material once radcon is over
26:19 <Mekkis> I can prep something...
26:32 <Mekkis> what haven't you played?
27:22 <Steven> But yeah, we coudl do fury of the fiend, forbidden furance of forgotten koor, king of the storval stairs, and feast of sigils...
27:44 <Mekkis> is that stuff you haven't played, or stuff you'd be running?
28:00 <Steven> thats the stuff i havent played
28:14 <Mekkis> ah
28:16 <Steven> thats 7-11
28:22 <Mekkis> you've been playing too much stuff
28:28 <Steven> i have a bunch of things i can GM, but i dont want to GM anything till after Radcon
28:38 <Steven> as i have a lot of things going on in the next two weeks
30:58 <Steven> after radcon though ill have more free time and would be agreeable to running some games for everyone
31:12 <Mekkis> are there any other 7-11s you haven't played?
31:33 <Steven> nope, those are the ones i havent played
32:12 <Mekkis> be careful, Steven...
32:26 <Steven> I REFUSE TO BE CAREFUL!
32:32 <Mekkis> looks like you'll burn out if you're running through scenarios at this pace
33:03 <Steven> I have burnt out of scenarios to play, theres like 20 i havent played yet
33:57 <Steven> thats why when i go down to the shop, 95% of the time im GMing or playing for no credit
34:56 <Steven> my buddy walter is the exact same as i am except with gming... 
35:19 <Steven> its a problem with having two game days a week
35:34 <Mekkis> yes
36:02 <Mekkis> you could try what Flood does, and run something else, on alternate weeks
36:05 <Steven> I dont care though, i like playing or GMing, and i often play for no credit
36:48 <Steven> we have a core group of players, like 5-10 who show up on both days, but we have 15 people who only go to one or the other
37:05 <Mekkis> always the same shop?
37:32 <Steven> i mean 15 people each game day that only turn up for that time slot
37:50 <Steven> yeah, we are promoting a new shop in moscow
37:55 <Steven> there is only one shop in Pullman
37:56 <Mekkis> wow!
38:22 <Mekkis> that's one far travel. And Darkwhite's only trying 700km awau...
38:42 <Steven> and we have a guy that used to drive over from moscow to pullman, that we have handed off the reins to
38:46 <Steven> moscow, idaho
38:49 <Mekkis> oh
38:50 <Steven> its like 8 miles away
39:05 <Mekkis> not Russia?
39:14 <Steven> nope
39:23 <Steven> there are like 40 or so cities in the US named moscow
40:29 <Steven> anyways, yeah, we tried setting one up at a shop called safari pearl
40:43 <Steven> but they wanted to charge 4 dollars per table for the GMs and then 1 dollar per player to sit at the table
41:00 <Steven> so... roughly 8-10 per table
41:09 <Steven> and we were like... um.... eat a dick
41:19 <Steven> and we never played there again
41:41 <Steven> then a new gaming shop opened up
41:47 <Steven> and we were like game day?
41:59 <Steven> and they said Yes please, do you mind if we sit at some tables and play with you
42:06 <Steven> and i was like, please do
42:09 <Steven> no charge
42:14 <Mekkis> fair enough
42:27 <Steven> so, now we are getting the Moscow scene set up
42:49 <Steven> and that will save the group of moscow guys about half an hour each time they want to game
42:57 <Steven> which is good
43:05 <Steven> and allows us to throw events over there as well
43:09 <Mekkis> did you go to the prerelease?
43:19 <Steven> nope
43:25 <Steven> i didnt have the money
43:30 <Steven> and im so fuckin bummed about it
43:48 <Mekkis> was it good?
44:00 <Steven> I wouldnt know.. i didnt get to go
44:09 <Mekkis> I wasn't particularly impressed with the set
44:58 <Steven> I like some of the gruul stuff.
45:08 <Steven> didnt really like the bloodrush thing
45:25 <Steven> where you discard and then shit gets big EoT
45:45 <Steven> but borborymogos mechanic was pretty kick ass
46:08 <Mekkis> it looked largely uninspiring
46:11 <Steven> i plan on abusing the hell out of that in EDH
46:52 <Steven> pretty much... they are setting up one or two guilds to be the favorites
47:17 <Steven> Boros, azorious or however its spelled
47:31 <Steven> maybe one other
47:45 <Steven> control magic, and lifegain burn....
47:46 <Steven> yay
48:07 <Mekkis> ortzov?
48:27 <Mekkis> Steven, you played or run Race for Runecarved key?
48:28 <Steven> meh....
48:30 <Steven> i dunno
48:35 <Steven> depends on how people tinker with it
48:53 <Steven> No, i have not played or run it... however i am aware of what happens in it
49:33 <Mekkis> what about other specials?
50:04 <Steven> ive played/GM'd the other specials
50:32 <Mekkis> do you think that tier 5-6 is not very enjoyable?
51:19 <Steven> I should warn you... I have never played/GM'd a special thats been ran as written
51:54 <Steven> we have always changed little things in them
52:05 <Mekkis> little things?
52:07 <Mekkis> example?
52:09 <Steven> like cut out irrelevant storyline
52:13 <Steven> changed final boss encounters
52:19 <Steven> you know... little things
52:22 <Steven> lol
52:31 <Steven> okay, year of the shadow lodge
52:37 <Mekkis> how did you run Blood under Absalom?
53:26 <Steven> final 'fight' we split into two groups, one group fought the nasty dragon outside that was buffed to hell and back
53:49 <Steven> and one went inside to fight the... whatever the hell it was person
53:55 <Mekkis> makes sense
54:17 <Steven> in the normal mode each table fights/bypasses the dragon
54:29 <Steven> and then goes inside to fight the guy inside
54:35 <Mekkis> I know
54:51 <Steven> instead we fought a dragon with 2200hp
54:57 <Mekkis> who decided that?
55:07 <Mekkis> and didn't someone just say SoD off?
55:31 <Steven> with CL 20 Stoneskin, and a few nasty spell like abilities
55:34 <Steven> nope, we were all for it
55:40 <Steven> it was an event customized for us
55:48 <Mekkis> who customised it?
55:56 <Mekkis> and by SoD off, I mean Save or Die
56:40 <Steven> Kyle Elliot and the VC at the time, with some imput from mike brock, SKR, and MM
57:04 <Mekkis> nice. why didn't they release it like that?
57:09 <Steven> the vc at the time was named jarvis i think
57:58 <Steven> because it was originally designed to be run for 10-however many tables
58:20 <Steven> like at gen con where this year they are going to do 150 tables all at once
58:53 <Steven> if they did it how we did it, you would spend roughly 4 hours completing one turn
59:21 <Mekkis> is that stuff available?
59:28 <Steven> the way we did it only works with less than 30-40 people
59:38 <Steven> you mean the customized version of the fights?
59:42 <Steven> no, it was a one time thing
59:51 <Mekkis> ah
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