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00:02:07 <TheDude> cool
00:02:27 <TheDude> although, I have to admit, watching those videos without context does seem a little bit fucked up
00:03:52 <doggyrat> that is why i got a shit storm in the telegram channel of a maker space i am still member of ( do not know what is going to happen now)
00:05:06 <doggyrat> the big building far away in the dropbox link is opposite to the makerspace that is why it has been canceled of the youtube channel
00:05:16 <TheDude> I see that you did add a suitable description to the yt vids :D
00:05:18 <doggyrat> about 650m away
00:06:49 <doggyrat> changing then lens of the usb camera behind the scope does enlarge the center of the picture
00:07:45 <doggyrat> i am thinking of adding a servo to change the setting of the multifocus lens
00:08:22 <doggyrat> just by pushing a bottom, but until next year there will be no more new videos
00:15:41 <doggyrat> it is time for my nap sorry
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02:27:27 <Nothing\> ahoy ahoy
02:27:41 <Kuschelpony> Hello Hello
02:27:45 <Nothing\> just found out this TL866 actually checks jellybean logic chips and SRAM, too
02:28:18 <Nothing\> gutentag mein freund
02:28:26 <Nothing\> how ya doin?
02:28:57 <Nothing\> i actually just wrote an impeccable german email to one of my family members in germany
02:29:24 <Kuschelpony> oh well, just back from a<small walkout
02:29:30 <Nothing\> he works for porche, so he's always going on all of these nice trips, skiing in the alps, soaking up the sun in ibiza, stuff like that
02:29:37 <Nothing\> the lucky bastard
02:29:55 <Nothing\> i wrote him and told him his hard work's obviously paid off and if anyone deserves such trips it's him
02:30:04 <Nothing\> just tryin to spread the good vibes :)
02:30:20 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, nice. i just got back from the clinic
02:30:28 <Kuschelpony> also i left my private electronic notebook at work, where i had yesterday made a number of impedance measurements on two mains transformers as we had recently discussed for audio
02:30:31 <Nothing\> my doctor was telling me i need to get out more to help with my depression
02:30:36 <Kuschelpony> welcome back
02:30:43 <Nothing\> danke
02:33:15 <Kuschelpony> i try more walkouts for similar reasons, if it does not currently rain again
02:34:26 <Nothing\> yeah, i've always read/been told that going for a walk is one of the best things you can do for your mood
02:34:31 Join: steve30 ([email protected]) to #eevblog
02:34:31 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
02:34:34 <Nothing\> and i wholeheartedly agree, it's a very meditative experience
02:37:44 <steve30> hi
02:38:25 <Nothing\> heya steve-o
02:38:28 <Nothing\> how ya doing?
02:38:37 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, meditative and cathartic
02:38:49 <Nothing\> which means, good for thinking and clearing out your head of emotions
02:38:55 <steve30> Took my 35mm camera round the city centre. I haven't taken it out anywhere for a couple of years
02:39:03 <Nothing\> nice!
02:39:30 <Nothing\> my mum likes photography, i keep encouraging her to learn more about it but she's just too old, and germanly stubborn
02:39:35 <Nothing\> germanically stubborn?
02:41:34 <Nothing\> so i wonder how i can test logic chips with this tl266
02:41:50 <Nothing\> i don't wanna accidentally put programming voltages into an input pin
02:42:15 <Nothing\> a 4000 might handle it, but definitely not a 7400
02:43:42 <Kuschelpony> im pretty sure the programmer will not switch on the programming voltage when testing logic chips
02:45:25 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, me too. It's just a matter of figuring out how to test the chip via the gui for the software
02:45:35 <Nothing\> since i'm still new to this thing, and the software
02:45:47 <Kuschelpony> i dont know this software so i cant answer
02:45:58 <Nothing\> but i'm testing a cd4046 PLL chip, which I have like 50 of them, so who's gonna need 50 PLLs
02:46:11 <Nothing\> i accidentally doubled-ordered it a few times
02:47:16 <Nothing\> i always wondered if i could just use the VCO in these chips without anything else, but i'm just wondering how i'd go about terminating the other parts of the chip so i don't get any noise or anything from having all of these floating components on the same chip
02:47:51 <Nothing\> actually i think i have a dedicated VCO chip, but damned if i can remember what it is
02:48:12 <Nothing\> i really need to update the catalog of chips i have and what they do
02:48:22 <Kuschelpony> you just tie all unused inputs to vcc or vcc depending on function, i check later the datasheet for suggestions
02:49:01 <Nothing\> yeah the datasheet didn't even mention using the VCO on its own or how to terminate unused components
02:49:38 <Nothing\> it's like on op amp chips how you're supposed to terminate unused op amps in a specific way, even though the datasheet for any op amp chip never specifically tells you how
02:49:40 <Kuschelpony> the chip is so simple that they assume its obvious to a proffesional
02:49:48 <Nothing\> i had to download a seperate app note to find that out
02:50:12 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i dunno. I couldn't see them leaving anything to assumption when writing a datasheet
02:50:21 <Kuschelpony> for opamps its sometimes in the datasheet, if not then its safe to connect it as voltage follower tied to gnd input
02:50:23 <Nothing\> just doesn't seem professionally. Ya know?
02:50:29 <Nothing\> i mean op amps, i can get
02:50:42 <Nothing\> everybody uses op amps, so you'd think even the greenest EE would know how to terminate them
02:51:10 <Nothing\> although you wouldn't believe how many other ways i've found of terminating unused op amps before i finally came across this app note that tells you how to do it the right way
02:52:53 <Nothing\> like,this is how i always learned to do it initially
02:52:54 <Nothing\> https://e2e.ti.com/resized-image/__size/650x0/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-08-64/2553.Slide_2D00_0001.JPG
02:53:16 <Nothing\> i'd usually use the first one without the vref just cuz it's easier
02:54:00 <Nothing\> but then i came across this app note on ti that basically said i was dead wrong, the diagrams are in the lower right of the first page:
02:54:01 <Nothing\> https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sboa204a/sboa204a.pdf?ts=1639157315192&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F
02:54:27 <Nothing\> which i used to call out a guy using an analog computer for not terminating the op amps right
02:55:15 <Nothing\> luckily the designers wer esmart enough to account for this so they built it in such a way that any unused op amp is automatically terminated properly
03:15:14 <Nothing\> huh
03:15:22 <Nothing\> apparently most lambos are 4 wheel drive
03:15:27 <Nothing\> that's interesting
03:15:41 <Nothing\> i should make a lambo rally car in gran turismo
03:16:06 <Nothing\> even the diablo's 4wh
03:16:09 <Nothing\> wd
03:16:19 <Nothing\> i woulda figured FR
03:22:48 <Nothing\> oh cool i think i figured out how to test logic chips on this tl466
03:23:44 <Nothing\> gonna try this, then see how i can test SRAM chips, cuz i've got some HM6116s, 16Kb SRAM that was used in the original NES, but it's not listed in the list of chips it supports
03:23:56 <Nothing\> but i think that list is just chips it can program, not chips it can test
03:24:17 <Nothing\> and i've gotta say, this thing has an impressive list of chips it's compatible with
03:29:33 <Nothing\> well i'll be
03:29:52 <Nothing\> you can even add your own chips to the TL866's testing software
03:30:09 <Nothing\> so if it doesn't have your chip on file, you can define the truth table it should have and add it yourself
03:30:56 <Nothing\> dammit, someone come in here. I need to gush about the TL866
03:31:26 <Kuschelpony> im sorry that i have no really good answer to comment
03:33:13 <Nothing\> lol it's okay, i'm just joking around
03:34:13 <Nothing\> i have a mental disorder that affects my inhibition when it comes to talking. That is it makes me feel pressured to talk more than usual. So I'll sometimes go on about rubbish. I apologize for the walls of text, and expect no replies. So you're good, bro.
03:34:51 <Nothing\> if anything it's me who should be apologizing for practically spamming the channel half the time
03:37:33 <Kuschelpony> at least i have no problem with this
03:42:41 <Nothing\> I'm glad. It's caused rifts in friendships and has even had me banned from several servers. Including the other EEVBLOG server. Jspiros REALLY took an issue with it, even after i apologized. Which I don't personally feel I should apologize for being myself, but I can understand how it would get on some peoples' nerves so I apologize at first, regardless. I try to be as aimiable and accomadating as possible, and ex
03:42:42 <Nothing\> Basically just doing whatever's in my power to at least mediate the unpleasantness it causes.
03:43:52 <Nothing\> But he was having none of it, so he banned me. And I decided it was for the best. If it was going to be a contentious issue and affect the ability of others to enjoy the chat, then I suppose it's for the best I not participate if my presence makes it hard for them to do that.
03:45:56 <steve30> My Mum has bought Coloidal Silver.
03:46:02 <steve30> :S
03:48:08 <arch> does anyone have wireless mice recommendations? logitech sucks ass; their receiver dongles don't play nicely with USB3 ports
03:48:19 <arch> my pc doesn't have any USB2 ports
03:48:40 <arch> the receiver is very susceptible to USB3 data/clock(?) noise which makes the conn intermittent
03:50:18 <Nothing\> steve30, so she wants to turn into a smurf?
03:50:45 <Nothing\> steve30, in fairness, that stuff would probably make a fine topical antimicrobial. for cleaning out wounds or deodorizing socks
03:51:07 <Nothing\> i've heard of socks with silver fibers woven into them to prevent stank foot
03:51:22 <Nothing\> which actually makes perfect sense, for a change
03:51:32 <Nothing\> since silver's a great antiseptic
03:51:40 <Nothing\> not sure about other Pt group metals
03:51:58 <Nothing\> i know platinum's used in chemotherapy though, interestingly enough
03:52:06 <Nothing\> cis-platin is a common chemotherapy agent
03:52:16 <Nothing\> and probably costs an arm and a leg
03:52:51 <Nothing\> oh that reminds me, when i was getting my foot x-rayed the other day. The technician had no friggin clue about x-rays
03:53:35 <Nothing\> i wanted to put my phone behind the protective shielding that she sat behind but for some reason she wouldn't. So I had to put it on a chair. And I was arguing with her that x-rays will induce an electrical current in anything conductive.
03:53:45 <Nothing\> and she's like "no it won't, it's just like light"
03:54:01 <Nothing\> i'm like "that's like saying a bullet out of a gun is the same thing as a chunk of lead
03:54:03 <Nothing\> "
03:54:43 <Nothing\> and explained how IONIZING radiation means it rips electrons off, which means it produces a net positive charge, which means it produces a voltage gradient, which leads to flow of charge, which leads to device damage
03:55:14 <Nothing\> and that there's a reason why radiation hardened devices are used, and why the robots cleaning up cheronobyl went crazy and jumped off the roof of the reactor building
03:55:18 <Nothing\> which they actually did
03:55:19 <Nothing\> lol
03:55:33 <Nothing\> but anyway she was having none of it because as far as she was concerned she was smarter than me
03:55:38 <Nothing\> apparently not
03:55:53 <Nothing\> she couldn't even tell me how directional the beam was or what the output was
03:56:24 <Nothing\> but i would imagine modern x-ray machines are extremely unidirectional and use the lowest output possible
03:57:10 <Nothing\> i just couldn't believe an x-ray tech couldn't understand how x-rays could induce electric current in something conductive through ionization
03:57:42 <steve30> When I had my hip xrayed a few years ago the radiographer was intrigued as he said they don't often get people my age in for hip xrays
03:57:56 <Nothing\> that is indeed unusual
03:57:59 <Nothing\> may i ask what it was for?
03:58:11 <steve30> I'll see if the image is online
03:58:19 <Nothing\> or if you have osteoarthritis or something like that
03:58:28 <Nothing\> vitamin d/calcium deficiency
03:58:31 <Nothing\> something of that nature
03:58:56 <Nothing\> i know the hips are usually affected by those sorts of things. That's why the elderly always have issues breaking their hips.
03:59:08 <Nothing\> my own grandmother had her hip replaced at least twice
03:59:41 <Nothing\> poor girl went through so much more in her life than i realized at the time
03:59:48 <Nothing\> but hindsight's 20/20 as they say
04:00:14 <Nothing\> she was also in the generation where the wife wasn't supposed to complain about anything
04:00:43 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/photos/left_hip.png
04:00:47 <Nothing\> nice
04:00:52 <Nothing\> i like me a good radiograph
04:01:07 <Nothing\> i shoulda asked for a copy of mine but i figured i could just request the records later
04:01:10 <steve30> Lumpy bone, basically
04:01:13 <Nothing\> that they were busy enough at the time
04:01:33 <Nothing\> steve30, i see the tip of your wang
04:01:34 <Nothing\> lol
04:01:48 <Nothing\> you tried to crop it out, but it's there
04:01:49 <Nothing\> :P
04:02:05 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/photos/right_hip.png
04:02:07 <Nothing\> but damn, that must not feel very nice
04:02:10 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/photos/pelvis_xray.png
04:02:21 <steve30> I think its called 'FAI'
04:02:24 <Nothing\> wow, i never woulda caught either of those
04:02:31 <steve30> It hasn't actually caused any trouble since last year
04:02:41 <Nothing\> i've got a thing called femoral pain syndrome, or disorder
04:03:16 <Nothing\> which is basically where my thigh muscles aren't balanced and pull my kneecap off to one side. So when my knee bends, the cap doesn't track evenly across the groove it's meant to track across
04:03:29 <Nothing\> which leads to irritation and pain of the cartilage
04:03:49 <Nothing\> had it since i was 8 but incidentally since becoming addicted to opiates it hasn't been a problem
04:03:49 <steve30> ouch
04:04:05 <Nothing\> it might flare up every few months, but before that it was at least a once a week thing
04:04:21 <Nothing\> oh yeah man. Especially before i discovered nsaids help it amazingly
04:05:04 <Nothing\> i remember as a kid being in tears while my mom desperately tried to massage my knee, which did help a bit. But really there was no relief from it.
04:05:30 <Nothing\> but yeah for some reason since becoming addicted to painkillers it just hasn't bothered me more than maybe half a dozen times in as many years
04:05:42 <steve30> I had to jump through hoops to get that image. I delayed making a legal request because I asked them informally twice, which yielded no response, so I put a formal request in, then they tried to employ delaying tactics by requesting more personal information to 'help' them fulfil the request.
04:06:01 <Nothing\> lovely
04:06:19 <Nothing\> yeah i've got a litany of horror stories of literal abuse and negligence at the hands of medical professionals
04:06:28 <Nothing\> and i don't mean the administrators either
04:06:45 <Nothing\> like going to the ER suicidal, depressed and having panic attacks
04:06:59 <steve30> i complained to the hospital manager and said, look, I paid over £150 for this x-ray, and £200 for the consultation. There is no reason you cannot give me this image informally, and there is absolutely no excuse for breaking the law by taking too long to reply to a legal request.
04:07:02 <Nothing\> only to have the COUNCELLOR demand i do a drug test before she saw me
04:07:08 <Nothing\> which should have nothing to do with anything
04:07:29 <Nothing\> but when i told her straight up what it would reveal she told me she wouldn't help me until i got sober and sent me home
04:07:36 <Nothing\> so i left feeling worse than when i arrived
04:07:55 <Nothing\> i was planning on making a suicide attempt at least when i got home so i'd have recourse to take legal action against them
04:08:05 <Nothing\> but after the hour walk home i was just done with it
04:08:36 <Nothing\> but that's the sorta stuff i had to contend with trying to get help for mental health while also being an addict
04:08:38 <steve30> In all these years, I've never actually mentioned my suicidal thoughts to a doctor, and I've certainly never been to the emergency dept for it.
04:08:49 <steve30> So I don't know what they're like, but I've heard plenty of bad stories on the internet.
04:09:03 <Nothing\> most people wouldn't even want to touch me. Because the drugs make it so much harder to determine what's the drugs and what's legit mental health.
04:09:28 <steve30> I did actually read an article from a charity which advised NOT to go to A&E for suicidal ideation when drunk.
04:09:29 <Nothing\> but that shouldn't matter. What matters is i'm a human being whois suffering and reaching out for help to somebody who should be all means provide it to me undconditionally
04:09:50 <Nothing\> steve30, honestly i won't even tell a professional when i'm suicidal
04:10:01 <Nothing\> actually when i'm genuinely suicidal, i won't tell anyone who i know can stop me
04:10:59 <Nothing\> like the other week i was, and i brought it up in here cuz i know nobody in here knows my personal details. And if they did, they certainly wouldn't call 911 pre-emptively if i just said i was suicidal. Where a doctor would most likely have you locked up if you said you were genuinely suicidal.
04:11:23 <Nothing\> but when i'm suicidal my thinking is, if i tell anyone, they'll try and stop me. So it's best to keep it to myself.
04:11:32 <Nothing\> and i usually plan it out weeks in advance
04:12:25 <Nothing\> i already know how i'd do it if i ever got the urge again, but i make sure i don't have any of the supplies on hand. And it would take several weeks to gather the supplies. So usually by then i've changed my mind or the feeling at least isn't as strong and i can cope in other ways.
04:13:41 <steve30> Even if I did know your exact whereabouts, and was 100% certain that you were telling the truth about where you are, I don't even know how I would get through to the Canadian emergency services from here in england.
04:14:09 <Nothing\> i'm sure you could call 999 and they could somehow route the information over to our services
04:14:32 <Nothing\> they've gotta have some protocol for that with the ubiquity of the internet and international chats
04:15:05 <steve30> you'd think so
04:15:19 <Nothing\> having frequently drug based servers in the past, i know there were times when the safety of a user was in question and the admins had to find a way to get touch with his local emergency services
04:15:31 <Nothing\> but that was usually an american admin helping an american user
04:15:53 <Nothing\> we only had a handfull of non-yanks in there
04:16:32 <Nothing\> hrm
04:16:37 <Nothing\> so i was just thinking
04:17:04 <Nothing\> with this TL866, if I wanted to connect my scope to one of the pins to record what's going on while it's doing it's thing
04:17:22 <Nothing\> where would i connect the ground clip on my scope? just to the ground pin on the chip?
04:17:51 <Nothing\> i'd imagine that'd ground it just the same as if you were using it in-circuit
04:18:16 <Nothing\> and hell, i could always measure it against VCC using my meter to be sure
04:18:32 <Nothing\> the voltage, that is
04:18:57 <Nothing\> speaking of which, i was actually thinking about printing off one of those ohm's law charts for the people at this vape shop i frequent
04:19:15 <Nothing\> i figure it would make a nice little reference for them to tape to the wall in their back room
04:19:39 <Nothing\> https://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/dccircuits-dcp4.gif
04:19:42 <Nothing\> something like that
04:23:06 * Ampera kisses Nothing\
04:23:10 <Ampera> how are you
04:23:17 * Nothing\ tongues Ampera :P
04:23:21 <Nothing\> hey bb
04:23:24 <Nothing\> ;P
04:23:30 <Nothing\> lol how's it going, bud?
04:23:40 <Ampera> I'm on the interstate
04:24:27 <Ampera> IRC at 65 MPH
04:26:34 <Nothing\> lol nice
04:26:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, how's the weather there? it's fucking gorgeous here
04:26:54 <Nothing\> 16c last i checked, which is what in f....
04:27:04 <Nothing\> 61
04:27:22 <Nothing\> who'da thunk it, huh? 61 in canada in the middle of december
04:27:38 <Nothing\> like i was tellin the guy at the clinic, we'll be growin oranges in alaska soon enough
04:28:05 <Ampera> https://imgur.com/a/pLCXJ22
04:28:05 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
04:28:05 <Nothing\> oh yeah Ampera i reduced my dose of methadone again. I'm at an even 70mg now
04:28:07 <Nothing\> :D
04:28:12 <Ampera> that's how
04:28:30 <Nothing\> yeah it's grey here too
04:28:31 <Nothing\> but warm
04:28:40 <Nothing\> we just had a huge rain storm this morning
04:28:48 <Nothing\> and they're calling for like 50mph winds later
04:29:53 <Nothing\> oh man and i'm so happy. I found out not only does this TL866 program my EEPROMs, but it will indeed do 8051/52 equivalents, ATTinys AND it even has a function for testing 4000 and 7400 series chips
04:30:34 <Nothing\> it's so amazing when i watch dave's teardown of his late 1980's vintage chip programmer that's about the size of a cash register
04:30:53 <Nothing\> meanwhile this thing's go the footprint of a credit card and only about an inch high
04:31:40 <Nothing\> and programs 17,500 chips alone. Plus for the testing feature you can write up your own truth tables and add custom chips if your chip isn't in there
04:36:49 <Nothing\> i seem to have a pariah prism
04:36:58 <Nothing\> everywhere i look, pariahs
04:37:29 <Ampera> Diner near my mom's house is packed
04:52:42 <Nothing\> dang
04:53:00 <Nothing\> i'm just playing with my EEPROM reader
04:53:06 <Nothing\> uh oh, the power just flickered
04:53:15 <Nothing\> it's super windy out today
04:53:27 <Nothing\> i better charge up my ecigs
04:53:48 <Ampera> you big flick
04:53:56 <Nothing\> lol
04:54:21 <Nothing\> man, i really wanna get an ebook reader
04:55:09 <Nothing\> i don't need a phone or anything. I'd just like to be able to read my datasheets and app notes and so on while i'm on the can without having to print them all off
04:55:54 <jaymax> Get the Kindle Paperwhite. Find info on the mobileread forums about it. If you like UART hackery, that's what you need to do to root the damn thing.
04:56:18 <Nothing\> i've actually never done anything with UART, but i'd love to learn
04:56:28 <Nothing\> i just can't seem to find any good resources on it
04:56:39 <jaymax> Mobileread calls it the PW2 - Dave owns one but I doubt he did it.
04:56:46 <jaymax> Rooting, that is.
04:56:59 <Nothing\> all i can ever find is either a 1 page article on serial protocols, or a 5-10 minute youtube video showing somebody doing it
04:57:14 <Nothing\> ah
04:58:02 <Nothing\> man, these same chip programmers i have are like $20 on aliexpress
04:58:11 <Nothing\> opposed to the $150 mine cost after duty
04:58:12 <jaymax> Yeah, UART is the serial connection. Root by setting up a TTY to get to a special boot mode, login, and change some perms. BTW, All the old eReaders are of no use on the internet at this point.
04:58:24 <Nothing\> buti only paid ~$120
04:58:29 <Nothing\> still way too much though
04:58:37 <Nothing\> but i'm justglad i have it
04:58:48 <Nothing\> and that i could support ben eater's channel by ordering it through him
04:59:19 <Nothing\> he's one of the big influences i had getting into EE and CS
05:00:02 <jaymax> For my rationale into getting the MiniPro, was through Adrian Black.
05:00:22 <Nothing\> him, EEVBLOG, Big Clive, and two programs, Logisim, and CircuitMod.
05:00:40 <Nothing\> those were my biggest influences getting into EE
05:01:51 <Nothing\> kajunga
05:01:53 <jaymax> I'm into the hackery side, maker shit, carry forward existing crap that is otherwise bricked-by-IoT (Internet of trash).
05:01:55 <Nothing\> kajungajunga
05:02:20 <Nothing\> jaymax, i'd love to get into circuitbending. But i've yet to find any toys that i could do it with
05:02:35 <Nothing\> i'd love to get a little children'spiano orsomething
05:02:56 <jaymax> circuitbending? like waveform?
05:03:08 <jaymax> Sawtooth etc?
05:03:12 <Nothing\> nah like
05:03:23 <Nothing\> well i guess the best way to explain is to show
05:03:56 <Nothing\> hey, this sounds like a good example
05:03:57 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYLBjScgb7o
05:03:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: THE FURBY ORGAN, A MUSICAL INSTRUMENT MADE FROM FURBIES
05:04:09 <Nothing\> guy turned a bunch of furbys into a musical organ
05:04:29 <jaymax> Oh, like the Floppotron!
05:04:40 <Nothing\> but that's the basic idea, you get some sort of electronics like a kid's toy and you hack it to do things it's not meant to do
05:04:50 <Nothing\> make neat sounds, stuff like that
05:05:06 <Nothing\> or accept inputs totrigger certain behaviors
05:05:42 <jaymax> Ever see the DefCon video where they hacked the modern Teddy Huxpin?
05:05:57 <DHess_US> Christ, it is too early in the morning for that Nothing\.
05:06:59 <jaymax> zenofex - Dissecting the Teddy Ruxpin Reverse Engineering the Smart Bear.
05:07:55 <jaymax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7SIL_JNSto
05:07:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: DEF CON 26 - zenofex - Dissecting the Teddy Ruxpin Reverse Engineering the Smart Bear
05:10:16 <Nothing\> rofl DHess_US
05:10:20 <Nothing\> hey man, how you doing?
05:10:37 <Nothing\> DHess_US, i had a joke i thought of about you last night but i wrote it on my hand it and got all smudged
05:10:44 <Nothing\> some reference to your last name
05:10:55 <Nothing\> maybe i wrote it down in me scratchpad
05:10:57 <DHess_US> German jokes are always hilarious.
05:11:13 <Nothing\> DHess_US, ein wurstmacher kampf ein muslibox
05:11:20 <Nothing\> and yes, it's meant to be spelled that way
05:11:35 <Nothing\> there were no unintentional errors
05:11:49 <Nothing\> actually it's supposed to be
05:12:02 <Nothing\> ich werde jetzen ein deutsch witzagen
05:12:09 <Nothing\> and then you tell the joke
05:12:33 <Nothing\> it was from southpark. They used the language really weird to make it so all of the german was almost like puns
05:12:57 <jaymax> Awk-ward....
05:13:02 <Nothing\> here
05:13:03 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy2VqDi4sFg
05:13:04 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: South Park - Germans
05:13:07 <Nothing\> rofl jaymax exactly
05:13:22 <Nothing\> i showed it to my mum and she couldn't even make heads or tails of the german
05:13:25 <Nothing\> (she's fluent)
05:14:23 <Nothing\> DHess_US, ah yeha i did write it down
05:14:34 <Nothing\> DHess_US, you remember the old jim henson show, dinosaurs?
05:14:55 <Nothing\> was a big hit back in the 90's
05:15:09 <Nothing\> it's still a good show. I just went back and watched it not long ago.
05:15:20 <Nothing\> But I forgot the main character's best friend's name is Roy Hess
05:15:29 <Nothing\> so apparently germans existed on Pangea
05:18:54 <DHess_US> I know it existed. I never watched it.
05:19:31 <Nothing\> that's too bad, it was a good show
05:19:55 <Nothing\> i suggest giving it a try. It's on tpb if you're interested. But that's your choice. I'm just making you aware it's available
05:20:08 <Nothing\> even as an adult it holds up well
05:20:17 <Nothing\> actually there's a lot of adult oriented humour in it
05:20:45 <Nothing\> oh hey jaymax
05:20:50 <Nothing\> guess what
05:21:04 <Nothing\> brb someone's at the door i think
05:21:47 <Nothing\> ah nm it was a kitty playing with something by the front door
05:22:06 <Nothing\> anywho jaymax, i went down again on my dose of methadone
05:22:22 <Nothing\> now i'm at an even 70mg. Down from 80mg I was on up till last week
05:22:53 <Nothing\> but it's always easiest when you first start going down. It's that last 10mg that'll kill ya
05:29:13 <Nothing\> man, i'm trying to find some equivalent to buckyballs online. You know those little magnetic ballbearings they took off the market cuz kids kept swallowing them?
05:29:53 <Nothing\> the only ones i can find are either 6 balls cubed, with 2.5mm balls. Which barely gives you a 1in wide cube
05:30:06 <Nothing\> or 5 balls that are 5mm. Which again is practically the same size
05:30:36 <Nothing\> i want something that's a good like, 2in cubed at least
05:40:32 <jaymax> I can attest that last bit for psychotropics. Moving from Clozapine to Aripiprazole (that last 12.5mg of Clozapine when 350mg is typical dose) and Aripiprazole (that last 0.5mg when 10mg is typical), I had insomnia those two events.
05:41:56 <jaymax> Sleeping four or five nights for that week of each transition.
05:58:44 <Nothing\> that's why i won't touch most psychotropics with a 10 foot pole
05:58:55 <Nothing\> as it is i'm having a really hard time with my clonazepam, tbh
05:59:05 <Nothing\> i'm on 1mg twice a day
05:59:19 <Nothing\> but it's enough that if i don't have it, i become EXTREME emotionally volatile
05:59:27 <Nothing\> to the point where i'm almost paranoid
06:00:19 <Nothing\> i can't count how many times i've accused my mum of denigrating or gaslighting me or otherwise trying to mess with me. When she's the LAST person in the world who would do anything of that sort to anybody. Much less her own son.
06:01:01 <Nothing\> or i'll just start crying, like full of sobbing etc for 30, 45 mins at a time
06:01:33 <Nothing\> or off and on for several hours. Usually until i get some in my system
06:20:41 * Nothing\ plays Metroid: Dread
06:22:12 <Nothing\> for how little i heard about this game after its release, it's a pretty damn good game.
06:22:30 <Nothing\> Better than any of the Prime ones, That's for sure.
06:23:08 <Nothing\> definitely worth the $80
06:33:46 <Nothing\> hey, do any of you know the name of a cheap PLD off hand?
07:10:44 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/ozvRisM.jpeg
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07:25:31 <electrohead> o/
07:25:55 <T3sl4> yo
07:26:08 <electrohead> hey man
07:26:16 <electrohead> I just had an interesting fucking adventure today
07:26:29 <electrohead> I'm going to get drunk
07:26:30 <electrohead> fuck it
07:26:34 <T3sl4> \o/
07:26:43 <electrohead> \o/
07:26:50 <Nothing\> yuh oh
07:26:55 <Nothing\> power keeps flickering
07:27:02 <electrohead> fuck my family at this point \o/
07:27:05 <Nothing\> for the last few hours
07:27:23 <Nothing\> electrohead, i can relate :/
07:27:36 <Nothing\> the only good, "real" family i have is my mum
07:27:50 <Nothing\> by that i mean, family who acts like one would expect family to
07:28:14 <Nothing\> you know, loyal, loving and supportive unconditionally
07:28:37 <Nothing\> or really anywhere close to any one of those three things
07:28:41 <Nothing\> i woulda taken that
07:29:02 <electrohead> T3sl4: https://lagunitas.com/beer/contents-under-fresher/
07:29:03 <EEVBot> [Title] - Lagunitas Contents Under Fresher
07:29:05 <electrohead> that's what I picked up today
07:29:34 <T3sl4> sounds disgusting
07:29:36 <Nothing\> in fairness i disowned my brother but that's because he's an alcoholic pill addict who's using my mom to drive him around whenever he demands it
07:29:44 <Nothing\> then talks shit about how she does it wrong
07:29:51 <electrohead> it's actually really good
07:29:59 <T3sl4> jk, i'm sure it's a lovely blend, it's just, i have a few sips of something like that, and it's still...just...yep that's really hoppy
07:30:12 <Nothing\> like she made a dentist appointment for him and couldn't get him in for a couple of weeks because, well, dentists are busy
07:30:25 <Nothing\> so he just bitched about how she couldn't make a dentist appointment for him righ
07:30:25 <Nothing\> t
07:31:12 <Nothing\> i mean if he at least thanked her for trying or something, showed some redeeming quality of that sort. Not just in this matter but in ANY matter of this sort, I'd be a lot more patient with him.
07:32:02 <Nothing\> But since he's been nothing but insulting and disrespectful to our mum, despite her taking him out to buy a damn 6 pack of soda when he asks her to and stuff like that
07:33:02 <Nothing\> or they'll make plans to get groceries and instead he'll get fucked up on pills or booze, or both and pass out all day, and she'll be stuck waiting for him to call because that's how she is. She'll wait for him to call all day until he finally does like 8 hours late and still takes him out.
07:33:09 <Nothing\> or did anyway
07:33:13 <Nothing\> i put a stop to that
07:34:27 <Nothing\> he thinks i'm just being petty and trying to keep her to myself or some crap cuz we live together. He thinks I get all of this free food and free bills and stuff, when I give my mum more than 80% of my money to cover bills and rent and food
07:34:54 <Nothing\> and she onlytakes me out maybe once or twice a week to medical appointments. Which I said I didn't mind if she took him to appointments like that either.
07:35:40 <Nothing\> i even had no problem with her helping him move and making multiple trips across several days to do so. I have no problem if it's something that's actually necessary.
07:35:51 <Nothing\> even if she takes him out more frequently than i do.
07:36:04 <electrohead> T3sl4: yeah I'm a fan of the semi-strong hoppiness
07:36:04 <Nothing\> frankly i don't even like going out
07:36:22 <electrohead> but this one, it's not as strong, hop-wise, as most other IPAs I get
07:36:29 <T3sl4> ah
07:36:55 <Nothing\> man, this one brand of lager i used to drink back when i drank beer, james ready...
07:36:56 <electrohead> you probably wouldn't like fog monster, from the sounds of it
07:36:57 <electrohead> lol
07:37:12 <Nothing\> for some reason ever time i drank it, the day after my mouth would reek of yeast
07:37:35 <Nothing\> at least i assume it's yeast because i've had the same taste from cheap wine
07:37:54 <T3sl4> on that note, there's a local brew pub, which i think partly on account of only having only the modest selection they make in house, their "IPA"s aren't very strong at all, i mean i've had ales hoppier than them
07:37:56 <Nothing\> i onlydrank the stuff cuz it was 5.5% which is strong for a lager here
07:38:15 <T3sl4> so, although none of their brews are particularly strong in any direction, they're all pretty drinkable too
07:38:35 <electrohead> what's the strongest percentage beer you ever had?
07:38:35 <Nothing\> i rarely ever drank expensive beer cuz i don't like the taste as it is
07:39:14 <Nothing\> so it doesn't matter to me if it's a fancy "good" tasting brew, or if it's just piss. As long as it got ME pissed.
07:39:17 <T3sl4> (strong as in, intensity of flavorings/spices, darkness, maltiness, alcohol, bitterness, acidity, etc)
07:39:24 <Nothing\> oh man
07:39:35 <T3sl4> i've had a... 12%ish barley wine before? something like that
07:39:38 <Nothing\> they used to have this stuff from Labatt here called Shok
07:39:48 <Nothing\> it was basically an energy drink beer
07:39:48 <T3sl4> not too often, they're not usually all that great tbh
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07:39:59 <Nothing\> beer mixed with guarana berry juice
07:40:04 <Nothing\> which made it sweeter than any malt
07:40:13 <Nothing\> it was so sickening
07:40:16 <T3sl4> next to that, various russian imperial stouts in the 10% range, plus or minus a few points
07:40:22 <electrohead> https://lagunitas.com/beer/waldos/
07:40:24 <EEVBot> [Title] - Waldos' - Lagunitas
07:40:30 <electrohead> there's a strong as fuck brew, heh
07:40:36 <electrohead> hops are an understatement
07:40:38 <Nothing\> molson tried something similar but i forget what it's called
07:40:46 <Nothing\> but yeah we'd never have any strong lagers
07:40:49 <Nothing\> just malt liquor
07:40:51 <electrohead> percentage wise, I do remember having something 12 or 13 percent
07:40:59 <Nothing\> which i think were around 7 or 8%
07:41:09 <Nothing\> colt 45 and things of that nature
07:41:12 <T3sl4> Nothing\: fruit beers can be alright but that sounds rather over the top, yeah
07:41:34 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i never liked flavoured beers period
07:41:41 <T3sl4> usually just a little fruit added to the brew and fermented so it ends up tart and dry rather than sweet
07:41:45 <Nothing\> even worse than regular beer
07:41:45 <electrohead> https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/335/5428/
07:41:51 <Nothing\> as in moderately priced lager
07:41:54 <electrohead> now *that's* a tasty beer
07:42:05 <T3sl4> yeah
07:42:18 <electrohead> expensive as fuck, though
07:42:48 <Nothing\> electrohead, that's okay. Beer's expensive here as it os
07:43:04 <electrohead> s/o/i
07:43:06 <electrohead> :p
07:43:13 <T3sl4> th...wtf?
07:43:28 <Nothing\> as it is
07:43:29 <T3sl4> beeradvocate disabled search?
07:43:44 <T3sl4> how irrelevant can you make yourself damn
07:43:57 <Nothing\> T3sl4, weird cuz the liquor control board of ontario's site is down right now
07:43:58 <electrohead> they did?
07:44:03 <Nothing\> probably cuz of this wind storm
07:44:19 <Nothing\> my power's been flickering all day
07:44:22 <electrohead> I'm actually having slight issues with duckduckgo on my vpn
07:44:33 <Nothing\> interesting
07:44:33 <electrohead> (going through PIA VPN)
07:44:50 <electrohead> what's funny though, the endpoint I'm currently using is going through canada, lol
07:44:57 <T3sl4> does it not say "Looking for a beer? Log in now to search, get updates, see fewer ads, support us, and whatnot." for you
07:45:01 <Nothing\> you guys ever hear the story of how a little old lady disabled the internet for the entire country of... i believe it was latvia
07:45:04 <Nothing\> let me double check
07:45:07 <T3sl4> in precisely the place where a search box should be
07:45:22 <Nothing\> armenia
07:45:26 <Nothing\> that's what it was
07:45:28 <electrohead> Nothing\: yeah, she was digging for .. copper, or something, and hit the fiber line?
07:45:33 <electrohead> that one?
07:45:38 <Nothing\> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/apr/06/georgian-woman-cuts-web-access
07:45:38 <EEVBot> [Title] - Georgian woman cuts off web access to whole of Armenia | Georgia | The Guardian
07:45:44 <Nothing\> electrohead, lol yeah
07:45:47 <T3sl4> anyways, this one is fantastic, velvety rich in flavor and sweet https://newglarusbrewing.com/beers/ourbeers/beer/wisconsin-belgian-red
07:45:48 <EEVBot> [Title] - New Glarus Brewing
07:46:01 <Nothing\> looking for scrap metal and severed the only fiber optic line going into the country
07:46:25 <Nothing\> i thought that was pretty funny
07:46:54 <electrohead> "Pulling up unused copper cables for scrap is a common means of making money in the former Soviet Union." :: that's when you know your economy is doing that bad, heh
07:47:37 <T3sl4> well, that and the general poverty, corruption including casual bribery, lower life expectancy etc
07:48:20 <electrohead> T3sl4: what's the percentage on that bad boy?
07:48:33 <T3sl4> i forget, surprised it doesn't say on the page
07:48:51 <T3sl4> pretty modest, i would guess
07:49:06 <electrohead> ahh, 4%
07:49:08 <electrohead> https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/590/1577/
07:49:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - Wisconsin Belgian Red | New Glarus Brewing Company | BeerAdvocate
07:49:59 <electrohead> here's a good sipping beer - https://troegs.com/beer/lagrave/
07:49:59 <EEVBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
07:50:00 <electrohead> <3
07:50:26 <T3sl4> nice
07:50:32 <electrohead> the corks are a nice touch
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08:10:11 <electrohead> alright, I'm going to fuck off for a bit, will be back whenever
08:10:12 <electrohead> o/
08:10:19 <T3sl4> cheers
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11:23:43 <jaymacks> Thunderstorm post-blizzard, and I got the return of Lake Pahoe in my parged-floor basement.
11:31:49 <jaymacks> DARPA really ramped up their stratospheric aerosol injection this week.
11:45:35 <T3sl4> lake effect?
11:47:39 <jaymacks> Sure, in the Monty Python sense.
11:48:02 <T3sl4> and now for something completely blizzard
11:48:42 <jaymacks> IIRC a segment from season 4 - "The Search for Lake Pahoe"
11:49:00 <T3sl4> oh
11:49:47 <jaymacks> Spoiler alert, the lake was a unit in a flat.
11:50:03 <T3sl4> i kinda suspected
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14:51:25 * arch is suspecting T3sl4 as a psu fetishist
14:53:13 * T3sl4 wraps arch in PVC
15:24:25 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/re64xn/rescued_puma_who_cant_be_released_to_wild_is_a/
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15:59:54 <Halcyon> Afternoon all
16:00:35 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
16:00:36 <Ampera> <3
16:00:39 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
16:00:41 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)(
16:00:44 <Halcyon> I'm alright
16:00:47 <Halcyon> Mark is finally moving out
16:00:52 <Ampera> nice
16:03:20 <Halcyon> So yeh it's been a little chaotic
16:03:55 <Ampera> I'm doing webserver thingies
16:04:25 <Ampera> Pretty much just finished offloading all images to buckets for about 30-32 wikis
16:04:31 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
16:04:38 <T3sl4> hi Halcyon
16:04:57 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
16:06:35 <Halcyon> Very nice Ampera
16:06:44 <DogWomble> Erpawherp wherpderple
16:07:08 <Halcyon> Copy, loud and clear
16:07:41 <DogWomble> Yeah it's the minitude of sopecherpaderp from the planet Zubalubabitch
16:10:00 <DogWomble> 6might someone be up for some CAH?
16:14:03 <T3sl4> mebbe
16:15:32 <DogWomble> By maybe do you mean yes? :)
16:19:47 <T3sl4> Halcyon not comin?
16:19:56 <T3sl4> oh nvm
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16:46:33 <steve30> hi Halcyon
16:46:41 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
16:46:43 <steve30> So, did you finally dump him?
16:48:18 * steve30 can't sleep
16:48:44 <Halcyon> Yeh, told him on Friday I have just had enough of his shit. I've done nothing but tried and been patient with him.
16:50:34 <steve30> Does this mean you can date T3sl4 now?
16:52:26 <Halcyon> I wish!
16:52:57 <Kuschelpony> good sunday
16:53:34 <steve30> I don't suppose you will be getting me a cute boy for christmas? :p
16:54:41 <Halcyon> Haha fresh out, I'm sorry :P
16:54:52 <steve30> aww
16:56:50 <Halcyon> Wait, aren't YOU the cute boy?t
16:57:26 <steve30> yes, but I'd like one to play with
16:57:38 <steve30> Why is there always a shortage of cuties?
16:58:04 <Halcyon> They are over here in 'Straya
16:58:26 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/kQpmhJ8
16:58:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - The whiskers - Album on Imgur
16:58:40 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
16:58:57 <steve30> meow :)
17:07:48 * steve30 pets T3sl4
17:08:01 * T3sl4 paws at steve30
17:14:57 <Halcyon> https://www.rinnai.com.au/heating/gas-fires/
17:15:00 <EEVBot> [Title] - Gas Fires - Gas Fireplaces - Gas Log Fires - Rinnai Australia
17:15:59 <steve30> "Optional Wi-Fi kit"
17:16:16 <Halcyon> I'm guessing so you can turn on the fire before you get home?
17:16:17 <steve30> Don't know how you could manage without wifi on a gas fire
17:16:18 <T3sl4> wi-fire*
17:16:22 <Halcyon> Because why the fuck not
17:16:24 <Halcyon> Exactly T3sl4
17:17:11 <Halcyon> I was just saying to T3sl4 that I'm looking at something like this for my place steve30
17:17:57 <steve30> ah, nice
17:18:28 <Halcyon> I figure it's cheaper to have it installed in summer
17:20:09 * steve30 is quite happy with his AC :)
17:20:37 <steve30> although fires are quite nice
17:21:06 <Halcyon> I find AC too dry especially in winter where it's running all the time.
17:21:16 <Halcyon> The wood floors actually shrink significantly
17:29:22 <steve30> maybe i'll have some food
17:29:29 <Halcyon> What you thinking steve30 ?
17:29:36 <steve30> pasty
17:33:20 <Halcyon> Nummy
17:43:23 <T3sl4> patsy
17:55:32 <Halcyon> Stone... Patsy... Patsy Stone...
17:59:40 <Halcyon> No one's a fan of Ab Fab?
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18:01:28 <steve30> ^that's cool
18:03:37 <Halcyon> Yeh actually that's pretty awesome
18:03:44 <Halcyon> I love eInk displays
18:03:56 <steve30> also, it has a kitty on it :p
18:04:02 <Halcyon> Stupid kitty
18:04:35 <T3sl4> he has a russian blue, or something like that
18:05:26 <Halcyon> That's different to Prussian Blue I assume?
18:05:59 <T3sl4> one is a chemical, the other is at least several chemicals
18:06:09 <Halcyon> Stupid chemicals
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18:48:04 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvw2cNQUuUc
18:48:04 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Cat on ice.
18:53:25 <T3sl4> stupid cat
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21:16:51 <doggyrat> hello
21:16:52 <EEVBot> Hello, doggyrat!
21:17:05 <Kuschelpony> Hello
21:17:22 <doggyrat> hello Kuschelpony
21:17:39 <doggyrat> how was your weekend
21:18:21 <Kuschelpony> boring lonely as usual, lets skip this part of conversation please
21:18:44 <Kuschelpony> at least i did not slip on the ice on my morning walkout
21:21:14 <doggyrat> i am not very good in interacting with people that i did prove in a discord veteran channel i am in to advertise my project
21:24:36 <Kuschelpony> i tried discord a year ago but left after a software problewm, never liked how noisy and bling-y that thing is
21:24:58 <Kuschelpony> impossible to trace or save a conversation or find past content
21:26:43 <doggyrat> i do prefer IRC simple reliable and no stupid pictures or videos all the time
21:28:58 <Kuschelpony> oh i would be happy if there would be an easier wy to add pictures, thats why i preferably use XMPP
21:29:10 <Kuschelpony> but IRC seems to be more popular around
21:29:32 <Kuschelpony> otherwise im exactly for the reason of simple text here
21:30:21 <doggyrat> i never heard about xmpp but i am no nerd
21:30:49 <Kuschelpony> its the generalisation of the classic Jabber
21:33:57 <doggyrat> that is what i did find on google , what program are you using for xmpp
21:34:06 <Kuschelpony> Gajim
21:45:05 <T3sl4> hmmm, guess it's about time i order a new SSD
21:46:39 <doggyrat> i have heard about that new technology :P but never have seen one in my old computers :(
22:04:08 <jaymacks> Kuschelpony: you use the XMPP bridge to get here?
22:07:17 <jaymax> As in... xmpp:#eevblog%[email protected]
22:07:44 <Kuschelpony> jaymacks, no i have not yet tried to use such a bridge
22:07:52 <Kuschelpony> im using here old X-Chat
22:08:34 <Kuschelpony> what i really would love to have is a bridge to Telegram to connect with people there without having a mobile phone
22:08:36 <doggyrat> i would recommend hex chat
22:08:43 <jaymax> If you give it a shot, let me know if cheogram loads up a bit of history on first connect.
22:09:16 <doggyrat> it has some kind of typing correction showing my spelling is bad
22:09:18 <Kuschelpony> we can talk again about this in the later evening (in about 6 to 7 hours)
22:09:34 <Kuschelpony> im happy to try but currently beeing more busy with housework and lunch
22:09:58 <jaymax> Fair. That was about if for me anyway. 😁
22:18:50 <Kuschelpony> sometimes i think i should be make a second job as consultant for DIY audio
22:19:14 <Kuschelpony> i would only ask 5€ every time someones uses an "star ground" and has the expected weird issues
22:20:42 <Kuschelpony> like shortwave oscilations
22:26:33 <Halcyon> Evening all
22:28:55 <doggyrat> hello Halcyon
22:29:36 <doggyrat> Kuschelpony: 5euro for how long , being my consultant
22:31:06 <Kuschelpony> Hello Halcyon
22:31:47 <Kuschelpony> doggyrat, for the seconds that i need to spot the "star ground" and explain them that their "neat isolated wires" are the inductors of their unintentional shorttwave oscilator
22:33:19 <Halcyon> Hey guys
22:33:59 <doggyrat> you do mean grounding one side of the isolating wire
22:35:29 <Kuschelpony> i meant, that there is a religion of having a "star ground" and then routng from there to all "ground" connections, with independ isolated wires or seperated board traces
22:35:55 <Kuschelpony> the opposite of a ground plane and decoupling caps with shortest possible connections
22:37:29 <Kuschelpony> i fully agree to have a "zero volt" point and from there route that as reference voltaqge to all needed points, plus a ground plane that shields the board and allows the least worst HF shunting
22:38:57 <Kuschelpony> sorry for ranting
22:39:28 <Kuschelpony> what i am searchign in the first place was for examples and suggestions for an TDA7294 with differentiel XLR input
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23:56:03 <doggyrat> are you both nerds i am not i am a kind of high noob or high boon
23:58:45 <Kuschelpony> i am likely not a nerd, just an almost-engineer
23:59:49 <doggyrat> engineers are a kind of nerd , i consider everyone being good in a subject as kind of nerd
23:59:54 <watcher> I can get with wat Kuschelpony say a nerd != to engineer. it came close but it not the same