// #eevblog — 2021-12-06
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00:19:39 <steve31> hi
00:31:53 <Kuschelpony> Hello steve
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00:42:50 <jackbrown> hello
00:42:53 <jackbrown> anyone ?
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00:47:17 <Kuschelpony> Hello jackbrowm
00:47:29 <Kuschelpony> Hello jackbrown
00:47:48 <jackbrown> Kuschelpony: hello, I have a question if you can help me
00:48:02 <Kuschelpony> just ask
00:48:56 <jackbrown> Kuschelpony: I have this Back up (APC CS-500) that has a 12V 9Ah battery and it's designed for 300W maximum load
00:49:15 <jackbrown> Kuschelpony: I should run 4 acquarium 6W 220V pumps
00:49:17 <Kuschelpony> yes
00:49:21 <Kuschelpony> yes
00:49:49 <jackbrown> Kuschelpony: how long can they run with 2 APC CS-500 ? (I have 2 of these back ups unit I will connect 2 pumps each)
00:52:05 <Kuschelpony> very hard to say because we are in a territory where the paralell losses of the UPS are on the same order or perhaps even higher than what the pumps draw
00:52:34 <Kuschelpony> so 12W of pump load plus unknown, maybe 5 to 10W of UPS losses
00:53:26 <jackbrown> Kuschelpony: so there's no way to have an idea, hours, minutes etc. I need to run them for 12 hours
00:53:47 <Kuschelpony> then the UPS is liekly too small
00:53:53 <Kuschelpony> a quick estimate says:
00:53:58 <jackbrown> Kuschelpony: anyway what do you think about this APC CS-500 ? is it a good unit?
00:54:03 <Kuschelpony> 20W is likely 2 amps at 12V
00:54:16 <Kuschelpony> so 9Ah/2A is maximum 4,5 hours
00:54:29 <Kuschelpony> i dont know that unit, only the general operation and issues of them
00:54:49 <jackbrown> so you are saying that 2 pumps will waste 10w each connected to the UPS
00:54:54 <Kuschelpony> no
00:54:57 <jackbrown> ok thanks for helping
00:55:12 <Kuschelpony> i say that the UPS itself wastes somethign 5 to 10W for its operation inefficiency
00:55:37 <Kuschelpony> its neglible when you have 300W load
00:55:40 <jackbrown> ok I got
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00:56:26 <jackbrown> ok, actually is not designed for a long use with the batteries but just to allow you to turn off the pc
00:58:42 <Kuschelpony> right!
00:59:14 <Kuschelpony> thats also why they have specific batteries made for crazy currents but at a short lifespan
00:59:47 <jackbrown> got it
01:00:11 <jackbrown> thanks for helping I need to find another way to power these pump
01:03:19 <Kuschelpony> best wishes
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01:19:24 <Nothing\> you guys hear about russia?
01:19:36 <Nothing\> apparently they're mobilizing troops to invade ukraine
01:19:44 <Nothing\> they REALLY don't want them becoming part of NATO
01:20:09 <Nothing\> they said Russia's mobilized 94,000 so far and expect another 55,000
01:20:36 <Nothing\> they're expecting an invasion by the new year
01:21:05 <Nothing\> and the US/Biden is REALLY pissed about it
01:21:33 <Nothing\> i'd imagine NATO in general would be
01:22:39 <Nothing\> oh, this says they expect 175,000 troops total
01:22:49 <Nothing\> https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/russia-ukraine-invasion/2021/12/03/98a3760e-546b-11ec-8769-2f4ecdf7a2ad_story.html
01:22:58 <EEVBot> [Title] - Russia planning massive military offensive against Ukraine involving 175,000 troops, U.S. intelligence warns - The Washington Post
01:22:59 <Nothing\> weird, washington post is usually paywalled
01:24:08 <Kuschelpony> nothing, its also in the Deutschlandfunk radio station since yesterday a< topic of concern
01:43:38 <hsn> Ampera,
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01:46:47 <Kuschelpony> this time its me asking for a sanity check
01:47:38 <Kuschelpony> lets say my circuit is essentially a buck converter, input 30v, output 12 to 15v, peak current about 1,2A average current less than 100mA
01:48:20 <Kuschelpony> frequency 50kHz by a XL2576
01:48:33 <Kuschelpony> i decided to set the ripple current to be 200mA
01:48:42 <Kuschelpony> giving me about 1,5mH
01:49:22 <Kuschelpony> when i wind a 27mm toroid #52 this gives me about 200 turns
01:49:31 <Kuschelpony> am i right here?
01:52:16 <steve31> That's my Christmas light switch on video almost done. Just got to add titles now
01:53:48 <Ampera> hsn,
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01:57:50 <hsn> Ampera, i love babe
01:57:59 <Ampera> sounds like a disease
01:58:04 <hsn> just needed to check u alive
01:58:19 <hsn> now u can go away from my life .. until next love
01:58:22 <hsn> :D
01:59:28 <electrohead> o/
01:59:39 * Ampera hugs electrohead
01:59:48 <Ampera> how are you doing zappydood?
01:59:49 <hsn> \o
02:00:02 * electrohead electrocutes Ampera
02:00:12 <electrohead> good here, just waking the hell up
02:00:18 <Ampera> can't spell electrocute without cute <3
02:00:27 <electrohead> lol
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02:02:40 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
02:02:59 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
02:03:50 <steve30> i should get some food
02:03:52 <Ampera> hi Nothing\
02:03:54 <Ampera> how are you doing nowhere man
02:03:59 * Ampera pets steve30 with some pizza
02:04:31 <Nothing\> Ampera, i feel like i got beat up for some reason lol
02:04:44 <Ampera> there must be a reason
02:04:53 <Nothing\> my left nipple hurts, my bicep's strained and my thigh is one giant monkey's fist
02:04:55 <Ampera> most people wouldn't beat you up unless there was a reason
02:05:00 <Ampera> your left nipple?
02:05:05 * Ampera tweaks Nothing\'s right nipple
02:05:05 <Nothing\> lol yeah
02:05:07 <Ampera> now they both hurt
02:05:14 <Nothing\> i think i just slept weird
02:05:33 <Nothing\> i tend to spend half the night sleeping sitting up cross legged
02:05:39 <Nothing\> so that can strain my legs sometimes
02:06:14 <Nothing\> lol the worst is when i'm vaping while i'm sitting like that, and i fall asleep while i'm in the middle of trying to vape and end up dropping my ecig on my balls
02:06:28 <Nothing\> it's happened more than once and oooh boy is it a good way to wake you up right quick
02:07:04 <Nothing\> i'm guessing that's about one newton of force, about 100g falling from 1 meter
02:07:16 <Nothing\> i think that's one newton, isn't it
02:07:39 <Nothing\> newtons and foot-pounds and force in general always confused me
02:08:13 <Nothing\> it's like one of those technical terms that sounds like it's the same thing as something else, but it's not, force and energy
02:08:14 <Kuschelpony> on this planet, a force of 1 newton is about 102 grams, to be exactly 1kg/9,81
02:08:23 <Nothing\> like strength and hardness in material science
02:08:31 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, yeah i just round up with g
02:08:37 <Nothing\> it's just easier that way
02:08:49 <Kuschelpony> its of course different in any other place
02:09:42 * Nothing\ measures the force of 100g falling 1m on mount everest
02:10:22 <Nothing\> might as well measure the boiling point of water while i'm up here, too
02:10:37 <Nothing\> HEYYYYY
02:10:46 <Nothing\> i just had a thought
02:10:56 <Kuschelpony> there is nowhere "1 meter" involved, its the force of a resting mass
02:11:33 <Nothing\> one of the major side effects of exposure to low atmsopheric pressure is pulmonary edema, ie fluid builds up in your lungs. And I remember reading how the mechanism for that's never been understood.
02:12:23 <Nothing\> I was just thinking, with the lower pressure, it would stand to reason that lymph and other bodily fluids would be able to "leak" from the surfaces in your lungs, especially diffusion takes place and it's presumably more permeable
02:12:52 <Nothing\> cuz there wouldn't be as much air pressure to sorta "hold the fluids in place" so to speak
02:13:50 <Nothing\> of course you could easily test for that by subjecting a mammal to 1 atmosphere of an asphyxiant like nitrogen and see if they still suffer pulmonary edema
02:14:05 <Nothing\> which would indicate it's caused by the actual hypoxia, not the low pressure
02:14:14 <Kuschelpony> if you coul run this test within 2 minutes
02:14:26 <Nothing\> so i guess i need to buy some lab mice, a bell jar and a tank of nitrogen
02:14:44 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, the mammals are expendible
02:14:54 <Nothing\> it shouldn't make any difference if they die
02:14:58 <Kuschelpony> not with me
02:15:03 <Nothing\> same
02:15:07 <Nothing\> in reality i couldn't do it
02:15:31 <Nothing\> although lab rats/mice are actually specifically bred to be test subjects
02:15:57 <Nothing\> there are even breeds with specific genetic traits you can buy
02:16:08 <Nothing\> but they're all meant to be as genetically identical as possible
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02:16:26 <Nothing\> at least the different variants, there are all sorts of different ones you can get
02:17:05 <Nothing\> a lot of lab animals are even made genetically predisposed to certain conditions they're researching
02:17:35 <Nothing\> like say you wanna do research on huntington's disease, it wouldn't do very well to keep breeding mice and hope you get one with this rare genetic disorder
02:18:38 <Nothing\> or the alternative is being able to find a drug that will induce the condition, like MPTP induces parkisonism, which allowed researchers to make some amazing breakthroughs in research into parkinson's in the 80's when the drug was discovered
02:19:04 <Nothing\> ironically it was discovered as a cutting agent for heroin. Or at least the toxic byproduct of an improperly produced cutting agent for heroin
02:20:50 <Nothing\> it's scary cuz just a single dose was enough to cause severe, permanent parksinonism. To the point the victim was said to be like a statue. Just completely immobile and unable to move. Unless they were given l-dopa but that in itself has severe side effects like psychosis, delusions and hallucinations.
02:21:21 <Nothing\> i just like that a drug that's so inherently harmful could do so much good
02:21:51 <Nothing\> like thalidomide. They're using that for some really beneficial treatments these days.
02:22:29 <Nothing\> as long as you're not pregnant, the drug's perfectly safe. But because of that whole thing in the 70's, the drug's name has been tainted and nobody wants anythnig to do with it. I don't see why they don't just rebrand it
02:24:01 <Nothing\> it's like benedryl. The drug's name is diphenhydramine, right. But there's a motion sickness drug sold in the states as dramamine, or canada as Gravol, the drug's name is dimenhydrinate. Even though it's the EXACT same drug as diphenhydramine. The only difference is it's mixed with a second drug to alleviate the drowsiness it causes.
02:34:17 <Nothing\> oh wow. there's a new expansion pack for titan quest
02:34:50 <Nothing\> hell, this game musta been released over 15 years ago and they're still releasing new content. Guess they have to compete with Diablo II Resurrected.
02:36:32 <Nothing\> Which I actually wasn't a huge fan of. I feel too scared to allot any skill points to anything because I know to have any chance later in the game I need to have a specific build for my character. But the game gives on inkling of what that is, and you can only reset your skill points once per game. So you screw up your skill point allotment and your game's snookered
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02:36:41 <Nothing\> heya watcher
02:36:54 <Nothing\> for some reason i always read your name in my head as "witcher"
02:36:59 <Nothing\> even though i never played that game
02:37:08 <Nothing\> but anyway, how ya doing, bud?
02:37:18 <Nothing\> what's the haps?
02:41:15 <watcher> reativly good. only not much concentration. so my english can be bad
02:58:17 <watcher> bye bye
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03:03:15 <Nothing\> ce la vie
03:03:20 * Nothing\ sighs
03:03:44 <Nothing\> oh well, at least i'm not feeling cripplingly depressed anymore
03:03:49 <Nothing\> just numb and empty
03:04:17 <Nothing\> and maybe a bit optimistic since i took that first official step towards getting off methadone finally
03:04:23 <Nothing\> after putting it off for almost 3 years
03:04:55 <Nothing\> holy fuck
03:05:09 <Nothing\> you know i just realized i've been on opioids every single day for over 12 years
03:05:27 <Nothing\> fuck it's scary how fast it goes
03:05:48 <Nothing\> and how seemingly suddenly it can take over and become the norm
03:06:08 <Nothing\> ah well i'm just glad i'm finally getting out
03:06:10 <Nothing\> :D
03:06:49 <Nothing\> this time 3 or 4 years from now i'llbe looking back and thinking "man, i'm glad i'm not there anymore" just like I look back on when I was using street opioids
03:07:58 <Nothing\> lol i was talking to my doctor about the guidelines for tapering, which is to go down by 10% each time and i'm like "er, wouldn't that just be asymptotic?" he got a good laugh out of that
03:10:24 <arch> for a buck conv, we know that in ccm, the duty cycle is Vout/Vin, but this is only for 100% efficiency. for the case we use a schottky diode and bjt transistor, it is (Vout + Vdiode)/(Vin + Vbe), right?
03:11:20 <electrohead> https://old.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/r97xuv/ship_your_pants/
03:11:24 <EEVBot> [Title] - Ship your pants? : funny
03:11:38 <Kuschelpony> arch, almost right
03:12:11 <Kuschelpony> assuming you have a PNP transistor insaturated condition, its /(Vin-Vcesat)
03:12:17 <Nothing\> hey, can any of you guys recommend a good cloud service for backing up data?
03:12:29 <arch> doh
03:12:30 <Nothing\> i tried checking out google, but they just wanted me to contact them for a quote
03:12:36 <Nothing\> which tells me "you can't afford this"
03:12:38 <Kuschelpony> uhm... at least not a datacenter going up in a big black cloud
03:12:53 <Nothing\> lol
03:12:59 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, that's a lot of magic smoke
03:13:13 <Kuschelpony> happened a few monthw ago....
03:13:23 <Nothing\> oh that was a real thing?
03:13:25 <Nothing\> jeez
03:13:46 <Nothing\> and i remember how crushing it was when i accidentally destroyed 1tb of data
03:13:50 <Nothing\> like, i didn't just erase it
03:13:59 <Nothing\> i erased it and wrote random data over it
03:14:12 <Nothing\> cuz i MEANT to wipe an old drive i was scrapping
03:14:18 <arch> i confused myself because we are losing voltage drops, but we have addition on the output side. i know the diode is dropping voltage, but the + sign confused me
03:14:24 <Nothing\> but instead i accidentally selected my media drive
03:14:43 <Kuschelpony> simple:
03:14:44 <Nothing\> so i just set this thing to wipe it and write it over 35 times with random data
03:14:48 <Nothing\> none of this 7 pass rubbish
03:14:50 <Nothing\> lol
03:15:11 <Kuschelpony> the input voltage is given, and the transistor voltage drop subtracts from it
03:15:17 <Nothing\> so anyways i set it to do this and then go out to run errands. Then return to find I wiped my media drive.
03:15:21 <Kuschelpony> because current flows into the circuit
03:15:28 <Nothing\> I felt like i just lost my house to a fire or something.
03:15:39 <Nothing\> like everything i spent years collecting was just gone in an instant
03:15:48 <Kuschelpony> the output voltage is also given, but current flows out of the circuit, so the diode voltage has to be added to force the current out
03:15:58 <Kuschelpony> oh iim sorry foryour loss
03:16:06 <arch> ahh, when you say it like that, makes sense. ty Kuschelpony
03:16:07 <Nothing\> lol that was yeras ago but thanks
03:16:37 <Kuschelpony> i also have a broken harddisc with lots of photos and mails that were not yet on the most recent backup, should sent that to a recovery company but that might get expensive
03:17:32 <arch> you can make a really inexpensive, but reliable RAID1 NAS if you have an old desktop and random HDDs
03:17:35 <arch> and linux
03:18:07 <Kuschelpony> im only on linux
03:18:18 <arch> and backup the NAS's contents to somewhere offsite (if you can), or otherwise, to another room (preferably near a fire exit, so you can run out with it)
03:18:32 <Kuschelpony> but have not really many old hdd and never had enough interest to fiddlewith a raid
03:19:22 <Kuschelpony> also not really much the money
03:19:23 <arch> it takes less than 5 minutes with mdadm command
03:19:52 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFzWWmeXIBEiP3H?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
03:19:54 <arch> you can get 1TB HDDs off ebay for less than $25 shipped these days =/
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03:56:36 <Nothing\> weird
03:56:51 <Nothing\> the pages in my one notebook have all gone yellow/brown as though they're really old
03:57:14 <Nothing\> seems to be a reaction to light or maybe oxygen cuz it's not as severe where another book was on top of it
03:57:37 <Nothing\> but the pages look like it's about 50 years old or something
03:58:49 <Nothing\> cheap paper?
03:59:43 <Nothing\> arch, i've been trying to convince my mum to go halves on a 14 or 16tb drive
04:00:29 <Nothing\> "oh yeah mum, you've gotta have that much space for your photos. You don't wanna find it's not enough later on down the road and have to buy another one."
04:01:07 <Nothing\> lol in fairness it's for her movies and stuff too so with how she watches movies, she probably will need 8tb within a few years
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04:22:47 <Ampera> buying massive hard drives is a complete and total waste of money.
04:23:30 <Ampera> and I seriously doubt she'd be able to fill an 8TB drive with movies within a few years unless you go apeshit ripping dozens and dozens of blurays in source quality.
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04:31:59 <T3sl4> DHess_US: i lost it at 'chili'
04:34:35 <arch> Ampera, you're a waste of money
04:34:53 <Ampera> you're a waste of time
04:35:03 <Ampera> and no matter how much money you spend
04:35:05 <arch> =(
04:35:07 <Ampera> you can never buy time back
04:35:08 <T3sl4> you're both a waste of tentacles
04:35:14 <arch> ^
04:35:18 * Ampera gets wasted with T3sl4
04:35:30 * T3sl4 sloshes Ampera
04:35:39 * Ampera galoshes T3sl4 in the face
04:35:53 <Nothing\> huh
04:36:00 <Nothing\> netflix is getting a new name in canada
04:36:04 <T3sl4> what, i'm just loafing around
04:36:11 <Nothing\> they're gonna be called Netflix Canada ULC
04:36:23 <Ampera> that's not a new name
04:36:28 <Nothing\> oh hey Ampera T3sl4
04:36:37 <Ampera> obviously you don't give a shit about arch
04:36:41 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\ then hugs again
04:36:48 <Nothing\> did i tell you guys the good news about the methadone?
04:36:53 <Nothing\> also
04:36:58 * Nothing\ gives T3sl4 a big hug
04:37:00 <T3sl4> ye
04:37:10 * Nothing\ gives Ampera a power hug
04:37:18 <Nothing\> T3sl4, just started on it today
04:37:33 <T3sl4> don't die too many times
04:37:33 <Nothing\> actually i did one furtehr and just took a half dose so i can split it through the day
04:38:11 <Ampera> Discord continues to get more and more irritating by the day
04:38:15 <Nothing\> which is kinda rough cuz i'm only getting half as much as i'm used to initially, but then the effects last longer throughout the day, so it's a bit of a tradeoff but i find it works well once i'm used to it
04:38:28 <Nothing\> Ampera, i don't even know what discord is
04:38:31 <Ampera> you can barely use the damn thing for 10 minutes before some popup tells you about some feature nobody cares about
04:38:34 <Ampera> Nothing\, good, stay innocent.
04:38:36 <Nothing\> other than the feeling it gives me
04:38:38 <T3sl4> in stark contrast, IRC is a predictable baseline of irritation
04:38:47 <Nothing\> Ampera, i figured it was something like twitch
04:38:52 <Ampera> not even close
04:38:54 <Nothing\> basically a ripoff of twitch
04:39:00 <Nothing\> huh
04:39:09 <Ampera> it's where everyone who used to use skype went after it fell from grace
04:39:10 <Nothing\> yeah see how out of touch i am with pop culture
04:39:14 <Ampera> and is basically why skype fell from mass grace
04:39:25 <Nothing\> skype's obsolete now?
04:39:25 <Ampera> it's basically a proprietary "replacement" for IRC
04:39:36 <Ampera> skype has been obsolete for almost a decade at this point.
04:39:44 <Nothing\> hrm
04:39:52 <Nothing\> i used to talk to my last gf on skype
04:39:57 <Nothing\> i'm tryingto remember when that was
04:40:06 <Nothing\> some time around 2010
04:40:10 <arch> *noobs when they use a mc34063, but the current limiting isn't actually current limiting and their mosfet blows up after a short circuit*: https://i.makeagif.com/media/6-16-2018/-5B9tb.gif
04:40:12 <Nothing\> not sure if before or after
04:40:13 <Nothing\> i think after
04:40:20 <Nothing\> by maybe 1-3 years
04:40:27 <Ampera> Sadly it doesn't matter how irritating your chat program is, if nobody uses it, it doesn't matter.
04:40:39 <Ampera> er, if everyone uses it rather
04:40:45 <Nothing\> we should all go back to using icq
04:40:51 <Ampera> that's why people stuck with skype until something well and beyond better came around
04:41:03 <Nothing\> i was just saying the other day, i still remember my icq number from 1998
04:41:12 <Ampera> honestly I'm most comfortable on IRC, and don't feel strongly tempted to use something else.
04:41:15 <Nothing\> 57727233
04:41:44 <Nothing\> yeah, irc satisfies my chat necessities
04:41:45 <Ampera> I wonder how many hospitalizations around christmas time are intentional.
04:41:51 <Nothing\> i see no reason to use anything else
04:41:56 <Nothing\> except maybe privacy
04:42:00 <Ampera> like, I wonder how many people intentionally break their fucking legs or something to get out of christmas
04:42:23 <Nothing\> like how you said the admin(s) of a server can eavesdrop on PMs
04:42:35 <Nothing\> if you wanted something more private, a different venue would be in order
04:43:13 <Nothing\> or you could use nordvpn
04:43:30 <Nothing\> because that makes everything on your internet 100% private no matter what it is
04:43:40 <Ampera> it's hilarious how many people completely and totally misunderstand how VPNs work
04:43:47 <Nothing\> lol dude
04:43:50 <Ampera> I'm gonna presume you're joking.
04:44:27 <Ampera> VPN services are a genuine case of the emperor's new clothes
04:45:30 <Nothing\> i just find it funny that like 2 summers ago, nordvpn got hacked, then didn't mention it for like 6 months until some external source asked them about it and there was all of this fallout from influencers like tom scott and grady on that engineering channel and many others for NordVPN and other companies misleading customers, and about the security breach and lack of transparency etc
04:46:16 <Ampera> VPN services are basically only good for doing shady shit on the internet you want to make less easy to get traced back to you
04:46:30 <Nothing\> then like 6 months later, they're all advertising for NordVPN again and NOBODY in the comments is mentioning anything about anything that happened the year before or how hypocritical it is of them to advertise it after speaking out against them
04:46:35 <Ampera> it's kinda useless too if you use something like chrome, because google has telemetry on all your shit anyways
04:46:44 <Nothing\> Ampera, the one thing i always wondered about VPNs
04:46:55 <Nothing\> is how can you trust the VPN provider itself?
04:47:00 <Ampera> You can't.
04:47:02 <Nothing\> exactly
04:47:07 <Nothing\> so that defeats the purpose
04:47:16 <Ampera> It's in one end, out the other.
04:47:18 <Nothing\> you're just making your data vulnerable to one more party
04:47:31 <Nothing\> and doing it a lot more overtly than if you didn't use a VPN
04:47:49 <Ampera> TLS solves most of the problems that VPNs claim to solve
04:47:58 <Ampera> the only thing that TLS can't really mask is where traffic comes from
04:48:18 <Ampera> which is why VPNs are great for avoiding ISP trackers that check for IPs in their ranges
04:48:25 <Ampera> (in the context of torrents)
04:48:39 <Ampera> it's all securely encrypted anyways, but since it's P2P, your IP is public on any torrent you download.
04:49:13 <Nothing\> that is, the VPN provider is going to know to look at your traffic. Where if you're not using any 3rd party in your connection, you wouldn't have as much information about the existence of a target, much less other details that can be used in an attack like IPs and MAC addresses etc
04:49:33 <Ampera> none of that is true
04:49:37 <Nothing\> no?
04:49:39 <Ampera> no
04:49:45 <Nothing\> please correct me
04:49:46 <Ampera> MAC addresses are useless outside a local network
04:49:49 <Nothing\> cuz i'm not an address
04:49:53 <Nothing\> oh really?
04:50:01 <Nothing\> huh, i'd always been under the impression they were
04:50:10 <Ampera> VPN providers know just as much how to look at your data as any other router along the path
04:50:33 <Ampera> VPNs are also not the final hop through the internet, your traffic still travels over the open internet from there to the server just the same
04:50:40 <Ampera> MAC addresses are ethernet addresses
04:50:50 <Ampera> it's how you can communicate over ethernet without needing to use TCP/IP at all
04:51:14 <Nothing\> i remember as a newb on irc back in the late 90's, some ne'er-do-wellers tried messing with me by getting my IP and the mac address of my NIC
04:51:25 <Nothing\> so i figured the mac address was important too
04:51:25 <Ampera> but ethernet typically ends at your gateway, at least in terms of being able to switch packets without routing
04:51:53 <Ampera> Your IP address is mostly useless to attackers, outside of DoS attacks
04:52:27 <Ampera> if you have a shitty gateway, or poorly secured services placed on open ports, then those can be vectors in combination of an IP
04:53:40 <Ampera> The only thing that a VPN service can really do, is let you transmit unencrypted data over a known sketchy network with less chance of it being read, and for you to spoof your IP address
04:53:57 <Nothing\> yeah see this was before firewalls were standard
04:54:02 <Nothing\> or even routers
04:54:04 <Ampera> that first thing can be done with any VPN server, and as such, I run my own VPN server partially for that reason
04:54:06 <Nothing\> actually wait
04:54:12 <Nothing\> it wasn't my nic they wanted the mac of
04:54:15 <Nothing\> i had no nic
04:54:18 <Ampera> routers have existed since before the invention of the internet
04:54:26 <Nothing\> i was on dial-up, it was my modem's mac they wanted
04:54:33 <Ampera> probably even before the invention of the telephone
04:54:42 <Ampera> depending on how loose you want to get with the terminology
04:54:44 <Nothing\> you know what i mean
04:54:58 <Nothing\> planers have been around a while too
04:55:01 <Nothing\> :P
04:55:05 <Ampera> Modems wouldn't have MAC addresses, as they are not ethernet devices
04:55:21 <Nothing\> well i sure didn't have dsl then
04:55:26 <Nothing\> and i did have a mac address
04:55:31 <Ampera> you probably had a NIC
04:55:36 <Nothing\> nope
04:55:36 <Ampera> *ethernet NIC
04:55:39 <Nothing\> 56k modem
04:55:44 <Ampera> in the computer I mean
04:55:49 <Nothing\> yeah i know
04:55:51 <Nothing\> i didn't
04:55:57 <Nothing\> it was an IBM Aptiva
04:56:13 <Ampera> then you didn't have a MAC address.
04:56:21 * Nothing\ shrugs
04:56:24 <Nothing\> yeah i dunno
04:56:31 <Ampera> telephone modems are deceptively simple things
04:56:32 <Nothing\> likei said i was a newb so who knows what i gave them
04:56:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, radio trancievers?
04:56:53 <Nothing\> ceiver
04:57:08 <Ampera> later ones like 56k modems were more interesting, but all they can really do is open a serial link, and send/receive data
04:57:15 <Ampera> they're pretty much fancy serial ports
04:57:20 <Nothing\> that's the first thing that comes to mind for me, maybe not at radio frequencies. but the same basic idea
04:57:37 <Nothing\> oh huh
05:00:03 <Ampera> In more bodily news, I've discovered that my skull has formed a horizontal rut at its top in the exact shape of a headphone band
05:00:15 <Ampera> exact shape and location
05:00:35 <Ampera> my guess is from years and years of constant, daily headphone usage, it's deformed that part of the skull
05:00:42 <Ampera> probably harmless, but interesting regardless
05:01:33 <Nothing\> Ampera, that's interesting. I actually just read a few weeks ago how some tribal people develop a similar rut in their foreheads from the way they transport goods. Because they use this band that goes across their forehead to support the weight of their ruck sack they carry on their backs
05:02:44 <Nothing\> there's this "lake" really it's just a small pond, in the himalayan mountains where they found hundreds of bodies with such indentations on their foreheads and researchers figured out that's what it was from.
05:03:13 <Nothing\> there was a lot more to why they were all in that pond in the first place. But that was one of the details that stuck out for me.
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05:42:57 <Nothing\> lol i like how on amazon all of these posts selling hydrochloric acid say it's "non-fuming" or "low fuming" like that's a good thing
05:43:19 <Nothing\> if i bought hydrochloric acid that didn't fume, i'd immediately assume i got ripped off
05:44:18 <Nothing\> whoa
05:44:32 <Nothing\> there's a new bill and ted movie
05:44:46 <Nothing\> i didn't know that was out already
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06:02:19 <Nothing\> bloody hell
06:02:59 <Nothing\> i ate these big marshmallows on a stick covered in white chocolate and candy cane bits last night and I'm STILL burping the damn peppermint from the candy cane
06:03:28 <Nothing\> i hope i didn't overdose on oil of wintergreen. cuz it IS a salicylate, just like aspirin.
06:03:55 <Nothing\> pretty sure i'd know it if i did though
06:04:39 <Nothing\> i have heard of cases of people doing that. Or overdosing on black licorice. Or cinnamon. Hell even nutmeg.
06:05:04 <Nothing\> there are lots of spices that can be dangerous in large or even moderate amounts.
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06:08:47 <arch> your face is deformed too
06:09:24 <arch> oh, i responded too late
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07:07:43 * arch rerorero-s T3sl4's cherries
07:08:08 <T3sl4> buh
07:08:27 <arch> waiting for goodies to arrive, thus i am bored for the next few days
07:08:36 <T3sl4> BUH!
07:08:52 <arch> stop scaring me, you'll give me an erection
07:09:05 <steve30> o/
07:09:20 <arch> steve30 always walks in in the most random moments
07:10:32 <T3sl4> i wonder if steve30 has gotten vax yet
07:10:54 <jaymax> The most amazing hard times right here.
07:11:23 * T3sl4 makes jaymax do hard times. long and hard.
07:12:03 * jaymax sends T3sl4 off to the Penal colony.
07:12:46 <T3sl4> javert your eyes
07:33:08 * steve30 fires a cupcake at T3sl4
07:33:16 <steve30> I've just been playing SuperTuxKart
07:53:51 <steve30> That would make a good idea for a kart; a T3sl4c0il on wheels :p
07:55:35 <steve30> I think I'll go to bed
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08:43:22 * electrohead wonders around
09:15:13 * steve30 can't sleep
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11:09:53 <Halcyon> Morning all
11:10:48 <steve30> hi
11:11:00 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
11:11:26 <steve30> i couldn't sleep
11:11:33 <steve30> but i think i'll go back to bed soon
11:11:48 <Halcyon> I couldn't either
11:11:54 <Halcyon> I've been tossing and turning since 0200
11:12:14 * Halcyon licks electrohead
11:12:18 * Halcyon punches Ampera in the box
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11:12:35 * steve30 passes Halcyon a cuddly Ampera
11:13:11 <electrohead> hey sexy, lol
11:13:25 <Halcyon> :D
11:13:27 <electrohead> :P
11:13:28 <jaymax> how you know i was here @electrohead?
11:13:45 <Halcyon> Hahaha
11:13:49 <electrohead> lmao
11:14:07 <electrohead> I guess I like big butts, and I can not lie
11:14:46 <jaymax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URQ4gkcySyE
11:14:46 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: I'm Rich and I'm Dead SEXY!!!
11:17:22 <Halcyon> Baby, the other other white meat
11:17:47 <electrohead> totally not my type, though
11:17:48 <electrohead> lol
11:18:10 <Halcyon> electrohead likes them more slender, like me :P
11:18:14 <jaymax> FWIW, I'm built like an Alex Jones - except less gravel.
11:18:34 <Halcyon> I had to look up who that was
11:18:57 <jaymax> Halcyon hahaha
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11:25:09 <electrohead> Halcyon: alex jones? he's just some massive fucking douche bag
11:25:30 <electrohead> a lot of assholes follow him for whatever reason
11:25:43 <jaymax> ...with sandpaper for vocal cords. LOL
11:26:19 <Halcyon> Oh right
11:26:21 <electrohead> lmao
11:26:54 <electrohead> my old best friend, got into alex jones, then turned religious. went bat shit insane, and I had to threaten to call the cops on him, for harassment, eventually
11:26:57 <electrohead> sad, but whatever
11:27:52 <jaymax> "religious" .... what faith? The order of the psychic vampires?
11:28:13 <electrohead> no idea, other than it was actual harassment, past a certain point
11:28:28 <electrohead> dude showed up on my doorstep on my birthday, with a bible in his hand, trying to 'convert me'
11:28:43 <jaymax> Ah. Mormon.
11:29:02 <electrohead> not mormon
11:29:06 <electrohead> but, that actually happened
11:29:08 <electrohead> lol
11:29:33 <jaymax> Oh wait, I got jokes for these - but I cannot remember the "Process Church" equivalent for Mormonism.
11:31:53 <jaymax> I had this thing where I showed up on the doorstep of an elderly neighbour with a couple beer and I started with "Excuse me, do you have a moment to talk about Pink Floyd?"
11:32:20 <electrohead> now that's good, lol
11:32:28 <electrohead> should have showed up with a joint, though
11:32:44 <jaymax> He liked jokes anyways. When he moved out, I got his "Beware of the Owner" sign.
11:34:43 <jaymax> He wasn't about the puff though. Easygoing neighbour, but he was a hawk for that smell (and complaining about the community college kids as that consequence).
11:36:45 <electrohead> most older guys I know are the biggest pot heads, heh
11:37:32 <jaymax> Mind you, he was similarly quite crochety about street cleaning as well (cars parked on the street blocking it, etc).
11:39:56 <jaymax> He had a Catholic upbringing, which moral compass stuck with him longer than the church itself (he left the congregation once donations were being redirected centrally to deal with ... lawsuits in various areas).
11:41:02 <Halcyon> That's so weird electrohead
11:41:10 <Halcyon> That kind of shit rarely happens here
11:41:21 <Halcyon> I reckon I've had people turn up once
11:41:50 <electrohead> well, he showed up at my house to essentially shove the bible in my face, attempt to convert me or whatever, and would stop saying that I had to be saved
11:41:52 * electrohead shrugs
11:42:00 <Halcyon> Nut bags
11:42:11 <Halcyon> Should have told them you like anal
11:45:26 <jaymax> Should have a bag labelled "fetus snacks" at the door - so when the diatribe starts, you can say "hold on a second, i'm feeling a bit peckish" *grabs bag*
11:45:52 <jaymax> can have goldfish crackers in the bag FWIW.
11:46:41 <Halcyon> Hahaha
11:46:59 <jaymax> Assuming anyone remember The Church of Euthanasia ... "Eat a queer fetus for Jesus"
11:49:24 <jaymax> BTW, *anyone* who says the internet after 2009 is better, had zero exposure to the shitlords from the BBS-era until 2005.
11:50:59 <Halcyon> Hahaha
11:51:07 <Halcyon> Not even BBS, IRC used to be full of fuckwits too
11:51:08 <jaymax> Well-rounded individuals, you get from that. Anything after is a fantasy sugar-coated with Tyler Durden's splooge
11:51:12 <Halcyon> Now it's just Ampera :P
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11:52:42 <jaymax> Ampera is an alright guy to hate. 😁
11:52:47 <Halcyon> Hahaha
11:52:56 <Halcyon> Nah kidding, we love him
11:52:59 <Halcyon> Dunno why, but we do
11:54:35 <jaymax> Because if we don't, he'd leave and someone else from New York State would take his place - with out luck, they might just be some shitlib.
11:56:01 <jaymax> Just kidding - shitlibs don't know how to navigate to what lacks a platform.
11:59:34 <Halcyon> LOL
11:59:49 <jaymax> BTW, if anyone is unfamiliar of that rhetoric, "shitlib" is a Jimmy-Dore-ism criticizing establisment liberals. Pls no crush me.
12:02:25 <arch> i think most people here are conservative leaning, so you should be good
12:03:10 * electrohead crushes jaymax
12:04:01 <jaymax> Ow, my spine - AGAIN!
12:10:16 <electrohead> \o/
12:10:34 <Halcyon> I need to weeeeee
12:10:39 <electrohead> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87qA41A_Ies
12:10:40 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Apollo Comms Part 7: NASA phase modulated receiver
12:10:42 <electrohead> oh hell yeah
12:10:44 <electrohead> and another
12:10:49 <DogWomble> Halcyon, surely you are taking the piss
12:10:56 <electrohead> I bet he is
12:10:58 <electrohead> lol
12:11:56 <Halcyon> Hahahah I'll call you electrohead :P
12:11:58 <Halcyon> He loves it when I'm in the bathroom and talking to him
12:12:33 <DogWomble> * electrohead is now knows as ListeningtoHalcyonPoop
12:12:58 <Halcyon> Hahaha
12:13:03 <Halcyon> Nah was just a wee
12:21:06 <electrohead> lol
12:21:31 <electrohead> I'm watching the two latest videos by cruriousmarc, then laying down for bed
12:21:34 <electrohead> early night tonight
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12:29:27 <Nothing\> hey ho fambly
12:29:42 * Nothing\ feels his teeth
12:31:09 <arch> electrohead, you left the old job fully?
12:35:44 <electrohead> curiousmarc*
12:35:47 <electrohead> I did not
13:12:10 <Ampera> T3sl4, https://www.myminifactory.com/object/3d-print-orb-pondering-wizard-198441
13:12:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - 3D Printable Orb Pondering Wizard
13:12:27 * T3sl4 ponders this
13:12:32 <Ampera> looks like that was done in a resin tank, because my filament printer would make a chowder of that
13:12:34 <Ampera> but damn do I want one
13:17:48 <T3sl4> one of that print, or one resin printer?
13:18:00 * T3sl4 shrugs, "yes."
13:18:32 <T3sl4> although if you scaled it up and made it mostly hollow, filament wouldn't be too too bad, would it?
13:20:53 * Halcyon covers Ampera in custard
13:22:10 <Ampera> Halcyon, fuck you
13:22:14 * Ampera fucks Halcyon
13:22:20 <Ampera> there now you fuck
13:22:23 * T3sl4 covers Halcyon's custard in mustard
13:22:24 <Ampera> get fuck
13:22:27 <Ampera> fucker
13:22:49 * T3sl4 fucks Ampera
13:22:50 <DogWomble> if your custard is mustard you might want to get that checked by a dcotor
13:23:03 <T3sl4> a dcocktor?
13:24:29 <Ampera> a cocktor
13:24:34 <Ampera> dicktor
13:24:39 <Ampera> penurse
13:24:46 <T3sl4> dick tater
13:25:07 <Ampera> spud dick
13:28:54 <Halcyon> \o/
13:55:41 <Nothing\> sweet
13:55:58 <Nothing\> just strung up 200 feet of xmas lights along the ceiling of my room
13:56:12 <Nothing\> only enough to do half the room, but i'm gonna go out and get another 200 feet tomorrow
13:56:33 <Nothing\> i wanna do the hallway and living room now too
13:57:07 <Nothing\> tried to put up the tree but it was shedding so bad, the kitties kept trying to eat the plastic needles so i had to put it away and hope they still have real trees
13:58:16 <Nothing\> i've become really... not so much paranoid as much as aware of microplastics and stuff of that nature since i found out just how much we're exposed to just in the house
13:59:32 <Nothing\> and that they're literally everywhere in us. In our guts, in our lungs, in our organs. Everything from carpet fibers to microscopic bits of PTE from water bottles or that get scraped off of plastic dishes either while eating or through washing.
13:59:55 <Halcyon> I try to buy glass as much as possible
13:59:57 <Halcyon> I hate plastic
14:00:22 <Nothing\> it's one of those things they're gonna look back on in 100 years and be like "wtf were we thinking?" like using benzene as aftershave, or giving babies heroin if they're fussy and won't sleep
14:00:39 <Nothing\> Halcyon, i don't even see glass anywhere really
14:00:52 <Nothing\> i mean it exists here, but usually in rare, expensive, fringe items
14:00:59 <Nothing\> like jones soda, if you've heard of it
14:01:04 <Nothing\> that sorta stuff
14:01:11 <Halcyon> A lot of stuff here comes in glass bottles
14:01:20 <Nothing\> plus my penis is too big to fit in those bottles
14:01:34 <Nothing\> i dunno how guys piss in beer bottles, but i need a larger opening than that
14:01:55 <Halcyon> ROFL
14:02:03 <Halcyon> I don't think you put the whole shaft in
14:02:23 <Nothing\> plus there's no pressure relief. So the air pressure builds up in there if you have a perfect seal and it ends up "spitting" out the sides
14:03:05 <Nothing\> Halcyon, otherwise it's like docking a damn space ship if you don't put the whole shaft in. You've gotta get the holes lined up exactly or all hell breaks loose
14:03:21 <Nothing\> you don't get a good seal and your fluids start leaking out into space
14:04:15 <Halcyon> You don't want a good seal as the liquid displaces the air and once the pressure builds in the bottle, you start hissing and spurting
14:06:18 <Nothing\> lol yup
14:06:44 <Nothing\> you need to get just like, less than a millimeter of a gap to allow for "burping"
14:06:53 <Halcyon> :P
14:07:05 <Nothing\> frankly i just use gatorade bottles
14:07:06 <Halcyon> Being uncircumsized helps with the seal :P
14:07:13 <Halcyon> Even they aren't that big
14:07:14 <Nothing\> yeah that would wouldn't it
14:07:23 <Nothing\> i didn't even think of that but it'd be like a funnel
14:07:26 <Ampera> you people don't need jesus
14:07:37 <Ampera> because even jesus would take one look at this shit and be beyond fucking calm
14:07:46 <Nothing\> oh jeez
14:07:56 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542853460157136896/915649543071227924/FFiWP9sXsAIpGkN.png
14:09:03 <Nothing\> why am i just now remembering a conversation i had with my mum about how all of these super expensive christmas trees you see in articles and the news are just cones with bobbles and decorations pasted onto them
14:09:23 <Nothing\> it's like anything cone shaped is automatically a christmas tree now
14:09:50 <Nothing\> i told her we should tar and bobble a KKK member and call it a christmas tree
14:11:05 <Nothing\> lol i remember the first time i saw the KKK, I was maybe 7 or 8 and it was on an episode of jerry springer. Their outfits were so stupid looking to me, it seemed so outlandish. I honestly thought the whole thing was a joke and couldn't stop laughing.
14:11:28 <Nothing\> i didn't care what they had to say, I couldn't stop laughing at their stupid outfits. lol
14:11:55 <Nothing\> then i fucking lost it when they showed the horses
14:12:26 <Nothing\> and if you think about it, the fact that they dress up their horses really is fucking stupid cuz isn't most of the point of dressing up to hide their identity?
14:12:39 <Nothing\> are they really that worried somebody's gonna recognize their horse?
14:13:03 <Nothing\> i could see maybe in the 19th century. But today?
14:13:29 <Nothing\> I dunno how easily you could recognize somebody's horse. I guess it would be like recognizing a car.
14:14:02 <Nothing\> ah man i'll never forget that though
14:15:32 <Nothing\> Halcyon, so am i to understand that, much like the UK and apparently most of europe as far as i know, circumcision isn't as common in australia as in north america?
14:15:41 <Halcyon> Nah it's not
14:15:46 <Nothing\> huh
14:15:51 <Nothing\> i wonder why it's so common here
14:16:08 <Halcyon> *shrug* Stuck in the old ages?
14:16:31 <Nothing\> it's weird too. I know all of the downsides of it. Yet I still prefer being cut for some reason. I think mostly cosmetic to be honest.
14:16:48 <Nothing\> Halcyon, ironic for the so-called new world
14:16:49 <Nothing\> heh
14:17:38 <Halcyon> My best mate had his done, but because of medical issues, his was too tight when he was a teenager.
14:17:40 <Nothing\> Actually i've got some weird scars from mine i've always wanted to ask a urologist about. Cuz it really doesn't look right at all.
14:18:14 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah i remember some kid had it done in grade 3 for some reason and we all gave him shit for it cuz we'd all been done at birth.
14:18:15 <Halcyon> Most guys here are uncut
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14:19:03 <Nothing\> and pretty much every woman i've been with has said they couldn't imagine being with an uncut guy. That it's almost a turn off for them for some reason.
14:19:25 <Halcyon> Weird
14:19:39 <Halcyon> Yeh completely the opposite here (at least with guys)
14:19:46 <Nothing\> Hell, there was even an episode of Seinfeld I saw the other day where they were talking about it and Elaine was saying she preferred cut. She said uncut has no personality lol.
14:20:12 <Nothing\> huh I never really thought about how culturally ingrained it is in us
14:21:04 <Nothing\> to the point where i'd imagine somebody being uncut would have a hard time dating even. Especially during teenager years and that when it's not so common knowledge that it's actually a normal thing and the way it's supposed to look.
14:21:43 <Nothing\> i never thought anything of it because my cousin was uncut so it was just no big deal to me
14:22:29 <Nothing\> i mean i wondered about it in the back of my head but never enough to ask cuz it didn't seem important
14:22:40 <Nothing\> even with my innate curiosity
14:23:16 <Nothing\> and actually, i've never once ever seen a porno with an uncut guy in it
14:23:57 <Nothing\> i would question if such a thing even existed if not for common sense
14:25:40 <Nothing\> grr why is steam not starting any games again
14:25:58 <Nothing\> ah there it is. damn updates.
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15:08:31 * electrohead fondles Halcyon before heading to bed
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15:19:38 * Halcyon prods Nothing\
15:32:30 * Nothing\ vomits a url
15:32:32 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfixa5IU-s8
15:32:32 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: I Was Blinded By A Bomb In Afghanistan Aged 20 | Minutes With | @LADbible TV
15:32:52 <Nothing\> these interviews are always incredible, no matter who they interview
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16:24:36 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://twitter.com/veryhappyanimal/status/1426008102361571332
16:25:04 <T3sl4> wonder if it's deaf
16:26:07 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
16:27:57 <T3sl4> not always, but the, what that condition is called, albino with mismatched eyes, it often goes with deafness
16:46:13 <Halcyon> I know, but still
16:46:15 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
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17:08:46 <Halcyon> Wow, Dave spam
17:54:32 <T3sl4> Halcyon: wow, a real standup fellow here https://www.eevblog.com/forum/news/who-tf-is-simon-and/
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17:55:08 <Halcyon> Did you see my reply?
17:55:14 <Halcyon> That's about as much effort I can be bothered with
18:03:22 <T3sl4> pretty much
18:31:02 <Halcyon> T3sl4, how much are these are your shops? https://usafoods.com.au/products/combos-pizzeria-pretzel-baked-snacks-6-3oz
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18:31:37 <T3sl4> probably about that?
18:31:54 <Halcyon> In USD?
18:32:21 <T3sl4> well, probably a bit less including conversion
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19:21:11 <steve30> hi
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19:24:58 <steve30> Halcyon, I finished watching series 1 of Queer as Folk.
19:30:39 <Halcyon> US or UK?
19:30:53 <steve30> UK
19:32:32 <steve30> Charlie Hunnam was quite cute in the series. Although according to wikipedia, he is less cute these days.
19:34:53 <steve30> I found it quite amusing that the bloke who played Shadrach Dingle in Emmerdale was in it tbh
19:35:48 <steve30> Also, the bloke who killed the other bloke with illegal drugs happens to be a senior police officer in another programme :p
19:45:29 <Halcyon> I see
20:00:53 <K> hello small crocodiles
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21:33:35 <Halcyon> Evening snapper
22:09:43 * jaymax looks out window ... sees darkness
22:09:51 <jaymax> Yeah I guess it's evening.
22:09:54 * steve30 has chicken
22:10:20 * jaymax wants chicken windows
22:15:03 Quit: modrobert ([email protected]) Quit: Lost terminal
23:17:02 <electrohead> o/
23:28:41 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:28:45 <Ampera> how are you doing electrofriend?
23:29:29 <hsn> im doing good amperiend
23:30:00 * Ampera orders a way overpriced toaster off hsn
23:30:34 <hsn> does it flies bread ?
23:31:29 <K> flybread yes
23:31:34 <K> crunchy!
23:31:35 <Ampera> oh nice
23:31:38 <Ampera> I was just thinking potato
23:31:40 <Ampera> and K showed up
23:32:06 <K> such is the power of potat, behold.
23:32:13 <Ampera> \o/
23:32:19 <Ampera> heil potato
23:33:13 * steve30 needs coffee
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