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07:58 * electrohead drowns everyone in coffee
11:29 <arch> just another day of pain and suffering
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52:33 <jaymax> Hooo damn. Someone get this on Dave's bench - I want to hear his opinion. https://doomberg.substack.com/p/herbie-spoils-the-party
52:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - Herbie Spoils the Party - Doomberg
54:49 <jaymax> BTW, feel's good to have the 5kW system (plus a 1kW addon) here on premises after reading that.
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19:01 <Jens> Right, so can someone help me find the part number for the screws that hold the battery compartment door on a Fluke 87-3?
19:26 <Jens> I tried emailing Fluke Denmark, but they probably don't care about people.
20:17 <Jens> Tried searching the best I could, and found "95969257251" which is supposed to be the screws, but I'm getting barely anything on that.
21:22 <Jens> If course >I< didn't break the damn thing, but I lent my meter to someone on the condition they replace the battery.
21:40 <Jens> Every time, without fail, someone other than me breaks my stuff.
21:49 <Sigyn> https://swling.com/blog/2021/12/100th-anniversary-of-transatlantic-tests-special-event-station-using-a-1921-replica-transmitter/
21:50 <EEVBot> [Title] - 100th Anniversary of Transatlantic Tests: Special event station using a 1921 replica transmitter | The SWLing Post
23:13 <Jens> I found these china fakes: https://www.ebay.com/itm/144252364307
23:15 <EEVBot> [Title] - 2pcs Screw Fastener for Fluke 83V 85V 87iii 87V 88V 787 89IV 187 189 724 725 789 | eBay
40:45 <Sigyn> Those are weird
41:34 <Jens> Weird how?
42:06 <Sigyn> Just like a very unique design
42:15 <Sigyn> when they could have gone with thumb screws or something
42:22 <Sigyn> Big flatheads
42:24 <Sigyn> idk
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45:00 <Jens> They're captive screws, I don't know how this guy managed to lose it.
45:18 <Jens> He said he'll pay for a replacement, and I'm holding him to his word.
58:26 <arch> this is why i keep a crappy Uni-T meter around to lend to people. never ever lend people your flukes and keysights
59:28 <Jens> Yea, lesson learned.
20:02 <electrohead> I never lend my test equipment to people
20:22 <electrohead> I'll donate a few bucks towards something cheaper for someone else, that's the most I do
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41:45 <T3sl4> electrohead: https://i.imgur.com/c8bf2Xl.jpg
41:46 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - So Craig Wright is now "legally" Satoshi Nakamoto? IIRC the original Satoshi loot has not been touched or moved. If… https://t.co/pNBFY3yR8D
42:46 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/dNehI2m.jpg
45:45 <electrohead> T3sl4: rofl
30:15 <Nothing\> oh yay
30:21 <Nothing\> i'm 90% certain i broke my big toe
30:28 <Nothing\> like, the end of it's gone numb
30:48 <Nothing\> can't bend it or put weight on it, the joint just feels fucked for lack of a better word
31:12 <jaymax> I feel the same way right now about my asshole.
31:19 <Nothing\> yeha actually me too
31:27 <Nothing\> i finally took care of that problem last night
31:38 <Nothing\> figures in the middle of the night while i'm trying to sleep, but better then than never
32:49 <jaymax> Who pooped the bed?
35:42 <Nothing\> lol thanks
35:45 <Nothing\> i needed a laugh
35:53 <jaymax> BTW, your menacing lightning friend is here at my front step Nothing\
36:18 <jaymax> Not too loud at this point.
37:42 <jaymax> Also, after hearign your voice in the Kitchener video, minds are wondering if you happen to be the "double-rainbow" guy.
44:09 <Nothing\> lol
44:18 <Nothing\> maybe that's it
44:27 <Nothing\> everyone who meets me swears they've seen me somewhere before
44:34 <Nothing\> i'm wondering if maybe it's my voice
45:09 <Nothing\> i know i sound exactly like my brother. lol i had a female friend (nonromantic but sisterly) call me once and she spent like 20 minutes talking to my brother before she realized it wasn't me
45:41 <jaymax> LOL, I couldn't do that with my brother.
45:41 <Nothing\> it's funny too cuz my dad always espoused that i'm not his because i look nothing like him or my brother
46:23 <Nothing\> and yeha we look nothing alike, but we talk and act exactly alike, even our mannerisms are identical, despite growing up in different environments for our adolescent years
46:40 <Nothing\> welp, my toe SEEMS alright
46:48 <Nothing\> and the blinding pain seems to have stopped now at least
46:54 <Nothing\> but this numbness really concerns me
46:58 <jaymax> I'm a sponge when it comes to localization. Just give me a wekk.
47:05 <Nothing\> that tells me there's swelling that's cutting off the circulation
47:12 <Nothing\> which is a medical emergency
47:19 <Nothing\> but i've never been one for hospitals so meh
47:41 <Nothing\> and i was just saying the other day i could eaasily lose a leg and it wouldn't have much of an effect on my quality of life
47:51 <Nothing\> or at least a foot anyways
48:02 * jaymax gives the Mr. Deeds toe-check method
48:11 <Nothing\> haha
48:26 <Nothing\> that woulda flown over my head if i hadn't just watched that movie a couple months ago
48:31 <Nothing\> wasn't as good as i remembered
48:49 <jaymax> Yeah a bit sappy
48:52 <Nothing\> but a lot of adam sandler movies in that era seem to be sort of ego masturbation
49:29 <Nothing\> in that they always portray him as this super-nice, super caring, almost messianically uhh what's the word
49:37 <Nothing\> where you give without second thought
49:50 <jaymax> Yeah he could only play two roles....the idiot and the loudmouth niceguy.
49:50 <Nothing\> not gracious
50:00 <Nothing\> exactly
50:10 <Nothing\> then his later movies were just excuses for his family to go on holidays
50:31 <Nothing\> i will admit though, billy madison was a classic
50:53 <Nothing\> but watching happy gilmore immediately after, as good as the movie was in its time, it was basically the same thing as billy madison
51:05 <jaymax> Whaa.....?
51:14 <Nothing\> in terms of the character he plays
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51:28 <Nothing\> you could call it billy madison 2 and it would work fine
51:35 <jaymax> Isn't Billy Madison the idiot role and Happy the loudmouth niceguy?
51:50 <Nothing\> hrm yeah i guess so
51:59 <Nothing\> close, but not the same
52:12 <Nothing\> actually one egregious example of this i found, that was really sad
52:14 <Nothing\> 2 actually
52:19 <jaymax> Oh! Big Daddy!
52:21 <Nothing\> first one was tommy boy and black sheep
52:31 <Nothing\> those WERE without a doubt, the same movie
52:43 <Nothing\> fuck up brother trying to help, but keeps screwing up despite his best intentions
52:52 <Nothing\> brother/son
53:01 <Nothing\> son in tommy boy, brother in black sheep
53:25 <Nothing\> but even worse, was guy ritchie's movies, lock stock and two smoking barrels, and snatch
53:35 <Nothing\> i watched the two of them back to back, starting with snatch
53:44 <Nothing\> and i realized the two movies are the EXACT SAME PLOT
53:54 <Nothing\> just lock stock had a bag of money instead of a diamond
54:27 <Nothing\> but you could tell Snatch was like, what Guy Ritchie WANTED Lock Stock to be, but couldn't because of lack of resources on account of being so new to the industry
54:31 <Nothing\> at least that's my take on it
55:16 <Nothing\> heh apparently when Kevin Smith got into film making, he totally financed Clerks with credit cards and lines of credit lol
55:39 <Nothing\> he had the film school degree, but no money to make the movie he wated
56:05 <jaymax> Okay, you're right, Big Daddy trancends both of his archetypes for being someone who is incapable (or retarded) with living like an adult - loudmouth, but takes *some* effort to not be a insufferable prick.
56:22 <Nothing\> yay
56:28 <Nothing\> my mum cleaned off my old crutches for me
56:39 <Nothing\> nice aluminium ones i got when i broke my ankle 22 years ago lol
56:52 * jaymax wipes his own ass.
57:10 <Nothing\> my grade 8 grad party. All hopped up on soda and caffeine, i was jogging around the gymnasium like a tard in my dress shoes
57:49 <jaymax> ...anbd you still have knees?
58:44 <Nothing\> lol i rolled my ankle
58:55 <Nothing\> it swelled up like a fuckin softball
59:08 <jaymax> Actually ... how you feel about walking on your knees the rest of your life? Like a Cotton Hill?
00:34 <Nothing\> haha
00:41 <Nothing\> dude i did it on the way to the dispensary
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01:21 <Nothing\> so i got there, couldn't even fit my shoe on anymore, hobbling around on the wet ground in my sock, trying to lean on my mum, but she's almost 70 so she can't support me i damn near took both of us down
01:48 <Nothing\> eventually i just commandeered a shopping cart from one of the workers at shopper's drugmart who was cleaning them up
02:00 <Nothing\> took it into the dispensary with me lol
02:05 <Nothing\> using it like a walker
03:07 <jaymax> Thank goodness it was a business and not in-hospital pharmacy. If latter, they'd probably made note of it... "gimping his walk by *not* being on his feet, for drugs"
03:14 <Nothing\> i think i'm just gonna buddy tape it for now
03:33 <Nothing\> it's my big toe so it's a lot worse than the other times i broke my toes
03:59 <jaymax> You have toenails left?
04:05 <Nothing\> jaymax, actually i just had a doctor accuse me of drug seeking a couple of weeks ago
04:13 <jaymax> Yeah i know.
04:14 <Nothing\> i'm trying to get the records of the appointment so i can file a complaint
04:25 <jaymax> I though it was last week.
04:27 <Nothing\> i'm going over the facility manager's head right to the college
04:37 <Nothing\> i was trying to get the records last week
04:57 <Nothing\> and they conveniently lost the paperwork i brought in from IPC to formally request the records
05:02 <Nothing\> which i didn't even have to do
05:17 <Nothing\> legally i should be able to walk in, say show me my records, and get my records
05:27 <Nothing\> since medical records are the property of the patient, NOT the doctor
05:52 <jaymax> At this point, you're getting the AMA treatment from that Seinfeld episode.
05:53 <Nothing\> the doctor is merely the custodian of the records, they have absolutely no right to withold them from you unless for a specific legal purpose like a subpoena, or court order
06:04 <Nothing\> jaymax, haha yeah that's exactly what it reminds me of
06:10 <Nothing\> i've actually been binging seinfeld lately
06:24 <Nothing\> admittedly, i was being difficult
06:32 <Nothing\> but that's because he was being passive aggressive
06:46 <Nothing\> "okay, you've had stomach pains for over a month. What do you want ME to do about it"
06:54 <jaymax> Being a hospital employee, I *know* the logical conclusion to that treatment, because it TF played out.
07:05 <Nothing\> "uhh you're the medical professional. If I knew what to do about it I wouldn't be here now, would I?"
07:37 <Nothing\> and i know when a medical professional says "what do you want me to do for you?" they're assuming you're drug seeking
07:46 <Nothing\> they're trying to get you to ask for something overtly
08:09 <Nothing\> which i've never asked for so much as a fuckin aspirin
08:21 <Nothing\> but you know, being on methadone i automatically must be a drug seeker
08:54 <Nothing\> of course he never bothered to see if i have my full carries (take home doses) which you can only get by passing weekly drug tests for no less than 2 months in a row, and lose if you fail said tests.
09:16 <jaymax> "Seeking" end up a notes, as do "mentally ill", and "borderline PD". But the logical conclusion to denial of help because of those notes, is that person dumping gasoline on themselves in the fucking hospital lobby.
09:34 <Nothing\> so if he'd have even just done his fuckin job he'd have known i wasn't a drug seeker, and by labeling me a drug seeker he's doomed me to a lifetime of substandard care since every doctor who sees me now is gonna think i'm just a junkie looking to get a fix.
10:10 <Nothing\> oh yeah that's the great thing too
10:19 <Nothing\> i'm not just an addict, i've got the full trifecta
10:32 <Nothing\> drug addicted, mentally ill, sex offender
10:41 <Nothing\> might as well just call me lower than rat shit
10:55 <Nothing\> that's basically the treatment those labels are gonna get me
11:31 <jaymax> Took paramedics and a neurologist to convince the guy *not to fucking light the match*. Promises were made to review the chart. May I say, I'm not an optimist.
13:10 <Nothing\> there, just buddy taped my toe
13:16 <Nothing\> that should keep her right
13:29 <jaymax> Buddy was in chronic pain, and this would be of the time where they just triple-down on doping people with anti-depressants and other psychotropics in cocktails and quantities that would otherwise be illegal.
13:51 <Nothing\> or at least stable, that's the worst part is when i'm walking around i still inadvertantly move it which puts me into agony. So hopefully buddy taping it to the neighbouring toes it won't do that so much
14:21 <jaymax> THANK FUCK weed is more accessible as an alternative option.
14:21 <Nothing\> jaymax, jeeez
14:32 <Nothing\> yeah, sadly for me weed doesn't seem to help much
14:44 <Nothing\> i mean it helps slow down my racing thoughts, that's for certain
14:50 <Nothing\> and gets my apetite up, helps me sleep
14:58 <Nothing\> but it can also induce anxiety just as randomly
15:08 <Nothing\> or do nothing at all
15:13 <jaymax> I like CBD oil as a tincture, but I don't have chronic pain.
15:33 <Nothing\> and my tolerance is so high. I've been using these 510 threaded cartridges, so like ~80% THC
15:43 <jaymax> My aunt (probably) counts though, and IIRC she smokes two ounces a day.
15:45 <Nothing\> plus being a vape, i can do it literally 24/7. No going outside to smoke.
15:56 <Nothing\> i tell you though, it's a LOT easier on my lungs
16:21 <Nothing\> i was skeptical when i first felt how rough it can be on your lungs. But it depends on the flavoring and terps and other shit they put in it
16:28 <jaymax> Makes sense, my aunt is probably dying of COPD at this point. Sounds like a withc.
16:44 <Nothing\> like this one had this mint flavoring and way too much pinene in it for the terps, so it just hurt my lungs. Literally.
17:00 <Nothing\> I'd be in so much pain after 3 puffs i could only take quick, short breaths for about 20 minutes
17:12 <Nothing\> jaymax, that's awful
17:41 <Nothing\> jaymax, i've had pneumonia so i know what dying of a lung disease feels like. And I tell you it is one of the worst feelings ever.
18:21 <jaymax> At any regular amount of ingestion, I gotta suggest eating it or having it absorbed by the skin.
18:23 <Nothing\> it's not so much that it's painful. No. What makes it excruciating is that you constantly feel like you're out of breath. Like you've just sprint a 400m race and can't catch your breath to save your life (literally)
18:46 <Nothing\> so it really works topically, huh?
19:01 <Nothing\> i saw those bath bombs they had, i always thought that wsa a crock of shit
19:14 <Nothing\> i mean first off, you've got how many gallons of water in a bath? 40? 80?
19:21 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.redd.it/6sldk83ggw381.png
19:27 <Nothing\> so, let's say 150 liters of water
19:34 <Nothing\> eh, say 100 for convenience sake
19:40 <Nothing\> then you put in 200mg of THC
19:46 <Nothing\> which doesn't even dissolve in water, btw
19:49 <Nothing\> it's non-polar
19:57 <Nothing\> i mean it's literally a drop in the bucket
19:59 <jaymax> There are points on your body that allow fast absorption.
20:14 <jaymax> Just rub it in.
20:15 <Nothing\> and this buddy tape just feels like it's cutting off the circulation to my toes
20:26 <Nothing\> i tried to make it as loose as possible and my toes are still tingling
20:35 <Nothing\> guess i'll just have to go au naturale
20:45 <jaymax> Also, if I'm going to have a breathing problem, it better be this way: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crim/2013/685716/
20:47 <EEVBot> [Title] - Massive Scrotal Edema: An Unusual Manifestation of Obstructive Sleep Apnea and Obesity-Hypoventilation Syndrome
21:47 <jaymax> > His scrotal size made walking difficult and required specially tailored trousers.
22:05 <Nothing\> i took some toradol and much as i'd hate to say it, a second dose of methadone, plus 2 extra strength tylenols so i figure that should help the pain plenty when it kicks in
22:12 <Nothing\> oh jeez
22:28 <Nothing\> i can't tell if it's the swelling or what but i can't even move this damn thing
22:40 <Nothing\> it feels like wearing a snow suit or something. Like everything's just too puffy to bend
23:21 <Nothing\> jaymax, lol i saw a except from a case from NEJM of a poor fellow who was in a motorcycle accident
23:44 <Nothing\> his femur was jammed up into his pelvis, and his femoral head was forced into his scrotum
23:56 <Nothing\> came complete with x-rays
24:11 <jaymax> So he was gargling his balls?
24:31 <Nothing\> but from the case reports i've seen re: motorcycle accidents, broken and dislocated femurs seem to be a really common injury
24:47 <Nothing\> jaymax, one would imagine they were probably forced up into his abdomen to make room
25:07 <Nothing\> either that or just obliterated from the impact of his femoral head being rammed into them like a piston
25:36 <Nothing\> being a medical journal, i only had access to the abstract. Lest I pay $35 to access the whole article for a day.
26:37 <Nothing\> it's funny, i always thought the fact that medical journals cost so much was just because they figure it just gets billed to a medical institution anyways. Or at the very least, to a doctor who makes six figures. So they can afford $35 to view an article, or $500 for a monthly subscription.
26:39 <jaymax> Yeah, that's why I don't motorcycle. I got the femur of a lemur. That kind of prognosis makes me no dreamer, nor reedemer.
26:45 <Nothing\> it just seemed like it was normal to me
27:32 <Nothing\> but apparently it's a bit controversy in the medical community, since there really is no good reason to make peer reviewed journals so prohibitively expensive. ESpecially in this day when more and more lay people are trying to access such journals.
27:51 <jaymax> SciHub FTW
27:59 <Nothing\> i always default to pubmed
28:08 <Nothing\> they've great for a... oh what do you call it
28:17 <Nothing\> when they compile a bunch of different journals onto one site
28:28 <Nothing\> or at least give you access to them through one site
28:49 <jaymax> But technically as a hospital employee, I can/*should* skip the paywall.
29:04 <Nothing\> actually i've recently taken to reading articles, guidelines and recommendations from the college's website
29:16 <Nothing\> college of physicians etc
29:24 <Nothing\> there's some great stuff on there
30:28 <Nothing\> for instance, i found a guideline on there saying that virtual or phone appointments should never be used as a replacement for in-person appointments. But rather as a supplementation. Which is just common sense and i've been saying ever since covid fucked up the medical system even worse than it already was.
30:46 <Nothing\> but my doctor i see now absolutely will NOT see anyone in person unless it's a severe problem
31:04 <Nothing\> i had to fight tooth and nail to get that appointment for my stomach, and he didn't even so much as do an examination on me
31:19 <Nothing\> frankly i think he was pissed that i got him to see me in person in the first place
31:23 <Nothing\> but good luck proving that
32:00 <Nothing\> and actually, i know for a fact that the manager of the facility's brother already had disciplinary action taken against him by the college a few years ago
32:23 <Nothing\> he was giving incentives like ipads and stuff to patients to use the pharmacy that he owned instead of the pharmacy they wanted to use.
33:41 <jaymax> Speaking of pubmed, this is what led me to skip the flushot last year. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31607599/
33:43 <EEVBot> [Title] - Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season - PubMed
33:51 <Nothing\> so i figure a disgruntled, but tasteful note outlining all of the problems with his practice and how much shame it would bring his parents if they knew both of their sons failed to meet the standards society expects of them so egregiously that disciplinary action had to be taken against BOTH of them.
33:57 <Nothing\> for completely unrelated matters
34:12 <jaymax> One extra potential public exposure to avoid.
34:14 <Nothing\> and how it speaks volumes for their family
34:39 <jaymax> > Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus and human metapneumovirus; however, significant protection with vaccination was associated not only with most influenza viruses, but also parainfluenza, RSV, and non-influenza virus coinfections.
34:41 <Nothing\> yeah, and i am prepared to go to CTV/CBC/Global/whatever if necessary
35:02 <Nothing\> in fact i'd probably copy my notes for the formal complaint to the college and send them off to all 3 stations
35:31 <Nothing\> i know CBC Marketplace has a segment for consumer affairs and stuff
35:45 <Nothing\> and CTV does the same thing, i think. But more locally
36:03 <Nothing\> CTV would probably be my best bet. Nobody wants anything to do with Brantford
36:04 <jaymax> BTW ^ is a 2018 study (pre-COVID) so coronaviruses is intended to be counted as the common cold. But hey it's nice that it didn't get memory-holed due to choice of words.
36:12 <Nothing\> it's a shit town trying to pretend it's a city
36:24 <Nothing\> interesting
36:43 <Nothing\> speaking of covid, i was reading about the origins of omicron the other day
37:00 <jaymax> This year, I'm no pussy to COVID so I got the flujab
37:09 <Nothing\> they figure somebody must have had covid at the same time as the common cold, and since they're both corona viruses, they were able to exchange DNA easily
37:23 <Nothing\> so the corona virus picked up, i think 35 mutations on its spike protein
37:28 <jaymax> Nice if that's the case.
37:39 <Nothing\> which is the main protein that's "presented" to the cell upon infiltration
37:46 <Nothing\> the one your immune system responds to
37:57 <Nothing\> so by doing this, it's essentially disguising itself as a common cold
38:19 <Nothing\> but they also think this could mean that it might not be as severe in terms of the symptoms. Even if it can circumvent our vaccines.
38:26 <jaymax> As of what's figured thus far, Omicron is so weak AF that noone is getting seriously sick by it.
38:33 <Nothing\> though i read last week that moderna's already working on a vaccine for omicron
39:04 <Nothing\> jaymax, i didn't realize it, but apparently delta's become the main variant everybody gets now
39:17 <jaymax> Odds are when it's in my part of the world, imma let Omicron wash over me.
39:20 <Nothing\> i guess it's replaced covid... classic?
39:47 <jaymax> Coca-covid.
39:48 <Nothing\> i wonder what happened to covid alpha, beta and gamma
39:52 <Nothing\> hahaha
40:24 <jaymax> Delta ate them. It's like asking what happened to homoerectus.
41:00 <Nothing\> jaymax, it's funny when i was doing weekends in prison back when covid first started. When we all showed up to check in on the saturday morning, it was in late march, maybe april and they'd already been sending us home on account of covid. So we were all just waiting to see if we'd be sent home or have to stay in prison for the weekend.
41:10 <Nothing\> But one of the guys who came in was wearing a Corona beer shirt
41:15 <Nothing\> we all loved that
41:26 <jaymax> Delta spreads easier. Being contagious winds the game, not severity. So delta was winning, but Omicron will probably steal the show.
42:04 <Nothing\> they do the whole strip search once you're taken in back though. Strip search, metal detector chair, full body penetrating x-ray machine. The works.
42:18 <Nothing\> yeah, we had to get actual x-rays every time we went in for the weekend.
42:53 <Nothing\> jaymax, one thing's for sure. All this talk about it's making me wanna play pandemic
43:11 <Nothing\> i haven't played it since covid. But it looks like there are a bunch of new versions and/or content for the game since covid started
43:25 <jaymax> BTW, this very thing happened with the Ebola virus. An asymptomatic variant emerged and spread like wildfire in the quartantined province it was in. Ebola stopped all by itself.
43:29 <Nothing\> there's even a reversed version where you're the government trying to stop a pandemic from spreading
43:48 <Nothing\> jaymax, speaking of Ebola, you know we actually made a vaccine for ebola here in Canada.
43:55 <Nothing\> at that lab in Manitoba, no less.
44:11 <jaymax> Probably from the asymptomatic variant.
44:19 <Nothing\> if you heard about thta, back a few months there was a big thing where some chinese spies somehow got sensitive jobs in the facility
44:37 <Nothing\> and some peolpe were illegally shipping ebola and some other virus to the wuhan facility
44:46 <jaymax> BTW, you know how the Smallpox vaccine came to be?
45:03 <Nothing\> yup, i've heard the story. Actually i just watched a video on it again the other day with my mum.
45:42 <Nothing\> the whole thing with milk maids first figuring out they're more immune, then doctors putting 2 and 2 together to figure out it was exposure to cowpox that did it
46:12 <Nothing\> and then they initially exposed people to cowpox, or a less severe strain of smallpox to give them immunity to the more severe variety
46:48 <jaymax> Success-story of live-attenuated vaccines. If man fucks up doing gimp-of-function to fight an outbreak, nature offers the gimp-of-function for you.
47:10 <Nothing\> then when they developed the actual vaccine, i forget his name, but the guy who developed it tested it on an 8 year old boy. He gave the kid the vaccine, then tried to infect him by... i forget how but he introduced ground up smallpox scabs into the boy's body somehow
47:28 <Nothing\> the usual way i recall for vaccination purposes was to grind up the scab into a powder and blow it into the sinuses
47:42 <Nothing\> sorta like a traditional indian snuff
48:23 <Nothing\> there's a video all about it on... ithink biographics
48:39 <Nothing\> one of simon whistler's channels anyways. I'm sure one need just search "simon whistler small pox" to get it
49:09 <jaymax> Would this documentary happen to be named "Pain, Pus & Poison"?
49:13 <Nothing\> hrm i've gotta pee but my toe doesn't really hurt anymore so i'm afraid to try and walk and risk pissing it off
50:10 <Nothing\> jaymax, no but that actually sounds familiar
50:15 <Nothing\> i think i may have seen that years and years ago
50:19 <Nothing\> a british deal, yeah?
50:38 <jaymax> I recommend it - you get to see Pfizer's transition from soda to pharma, in being the first to mass-produce penicillin.
50:43 * Nothing\ checks hospital waiting times in the area
50:51 <Nothing\> jaymax, oh maybe i didn't see it
51:01 <Nothing\> i recall the name. But i guess maybe i didn't get around to watching it
51:27 <Nothing\> uuuuuuuuuuuugh
51:32 <Nothing\> 5 hours for the local ER
51:46 <jaymax> It's *mostly* about medical researchers drugging themselves to advance their theories of opiates and anesthetics.
52:17 <Nothing\> 2 hours for hamilton general
52:38 <Nothing\> wonder what paris looks like. Usually they're not as busy.
52:50 <Nothing\> but being such a small town, they have fuck all for resources.
53:11 <Nothing\> That's the hard thing about deciding if i need the hospital and which one to go to
53:25 <jaymax> "Come for the cows! Stay for the emergency care!"
53:45 <Nothing\> i can either go to one in a big city and wait longer for better care and more resources. Or go to a small town, be seen quickly and have lower quality care and less resources.
53:58 <Nothing\> but i guess if it's a simple break, it's not like there's anything special they need
54:16 <Nothing\> if a hospital wasn't equipped to diagnose and treat a simple fracture, i'd worry
54:21 <jaymax> With the likelihood that the small hospital transfers you to the big hospital.
54:56 <Nothing\> yeah, which if this numbness isn't related to the swelling and i really did screw something bad up, they'll have to do anyways cuz i'll need surgery to correct it.
55:11 <Nothing\> or if i shattered my toe or need pins or something of that nature
55:45 <Nothing\> at least my pain management regimen seemed to work great.
55:57 <Nothing\> the toradol, tylenol and extra methadone
56:08 <Nothing\> but that only buys me like 6 hours
56:23 <Nothing\> actually i do have all of this cannabis stuff i just bought
56:57 <jaymax> It's past my bedtime - now I gotta decide whether I should try to shit before crawling in bed. The after (unless we're talking next morning) isn't an option.
57:02 <Nothing\> 2x 1g 510 cartridges that are 80% each. plus an eighth of some flower that's 22%
57:14 <Nothing\> jaymax, take it from me. shit while you can.
57:26 <jaymax> Noted. Cheers.
57:39 <Nothing\> Cuz otherwise what happens is it goes back up in you, where more moisture from it is absorbed. Which makes it drier and harder, and harder to pass.
57:54 <Nothing\> So you can end up really snookering yourself if you put it off
58:57 <Nothing\> route 66
59:05 <Nothing\> that's what the flower's called that i got
59:17 <Nothing\> better than some of the other kooky names they have
59:49 <Nothing\> think i'll go with sour apple for these cartridges i got
00:01 <Nothing\> i have a sour apple flavor and a "forbidden fruit"
00:10 <Nothing\> which i'm guessing is vaginal secretion flavored?
00:44 <Nothing\> definitely doesn't smell like sour apple
00:47 <Nothing\> just smells like weed
01:06 <Nothing\> oh wait there it is
01:11 <Nothing\> great, pinene
01:24 <Nothing\> and limonen
01:29 <Nothing\> limonene
01:42 <Nothing\> i guess they flavoured it with terpenes
01:58 <Nothing\> oh well
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28:26 <arch> i successfully took apart a few PQ cores from their coilformers. the trick is to boil the thing in water for 30 mins +, then use a scalpel to pry the sides
28:40 * T3sl4 headpats arch
28:53 <arch> saving that 50c. damn, im fucking rich
29:18 <arch> actually, no. more like a few bucks. the cores are cheap, sure, but the coilformers are a few bucks
31:06 <arch> if there was high temperature 3d printable filaments, i would def print out coilformers
31:16 <arch> but ABS starts getting melty at 90C+
31:41 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FF9HPYuUYAAFeX5?format=jpg&name=900x900
33:04 <T3sl4> doncha know they faked it, but since they got kubrick to do it, he insisted on location filming
34:46 <T3sl4> arch: i picked up a few of these for a recent project https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/PQ_RM_Cores.jpg
34:56 <T3sl4> more than a few bucks at mouser, ye
35:12 <arch> what sizes? mine are PQ26/20
35:19 <arch> i think those are good for up to 100W
39:20 <DHess_US> look more like 1000W
40:05 <arch> no i was talking about mine
40:24 <Nothing\> bah
40:36 <Nothing\> i should really go to the hospital the more i think about this
40:38 <T3sl4> PQ40/40 and RM12
40:39 <arch> everyone knows, the bigger your psu, the smaller your wiener. T3sl4 has a really small wiener for desining those kW psus
40:44 <Nothing\> buti 'm just too damn tired
40:48 <T3sl4> N49 ungapped
40:49 <Nothing\> i think i'll go tomorrow
41:25 <Nothing\> at least get an x-ray. Make sure my bits are all where they should be. Cuz I can't move or feel my toe right now. So it's really unhappy about what i did to it.
41:37 <arch> what topology? full bridge?
42:12 <Nothing\> even with my painkillers working in full swing. Just the feeling of the swelling is unnerving. It's like somebody bubble wrapped my big toe.
43:05 <Nothing\> i can tell there's gonna be some nasty bruising in the days to come.
43:46 <Nothing\> oeoh i forgot i got a cannabis chocolate at the dispensary. They don't do jack for me, but they're so damn tasty i love them just for the taste.
44:46 <Nothing\> i'd buy them just for the taste if it wasn't like friggin $5 for a 1oz piece
45:01 <DHess_US> arch, the datasheet for the core should give a set of power versus frequency graphs.
45:57 <Nothing\> man, i feel like making a circuit or something
45:59 <DHess_US> Most cores are operated well under their maximum capability.
46:10 <Nothing\> nothing useful mind you, just something for the sake of messing around and/or learning
46:21 <T3sl4> Nothing\: what did you do, stub it?
46:33 <Nothing\> T3sl4, kicked a wall full strength :/
46:39 <Nothing\> brilliant, huh?
46:46 <T3sl4> nice one
47:02 <Nothing\> yeah really
47:10 <Nothing\> but the pain man, omg it was so bad
47:20 <T3sl4> yeah, get that checked
47:27 <Nothing\> i was screaming and groaning etc for a good half hour afterwards
47:36 <Nothing\> and the tip of it's numb and tingly
47:52 <T3sl4> that shoulda been your clue to go sooner :P
48:13 <Nothing\> yeah, i really don't want to though. But like I said i'm gonna go tomorow
48:27 <Nothing\> there's a hospital one town over that's usually got short wait times
48:41 <Nothing\> plus night time is always the worst for ER wait times
49:08 <Nothing\> peolpe don't wanna go during the day when they're working and stuff, or maybe just don't hurt themselves as often not being at home and idle
49:11 * Nothing\ shrugs
49:50 <Nothing\> just as long as the end doesn't turn blue or show signs of ischemia
49:59 <Nothing\> or is it hypoxia? hell if i know
50:50 <Nothing\> they're one of those terms that sound like they describe the same thing, but when you get down to the technical differences they're not the same at all
52:57 <Nothing\> man, i turned down the scaling on my desktop last night from the 350% or so it has recommended for 4k to 150% and it's so much better like this
53:38 <Nothing\> everything's still big enough thati can read and navigate without any problems, but i have twice the desktop space
54:10 <arch> magnet wire isn't pure copper right?
54:17 <Nothing\> arch, i think it is
54:22 <Nothing\> aside from the insulation of course
55:14 <Nothing\> arch, i say this because i'd imagine if it had steel or iron or some sort of a magnetic metal, it would make its properties as an inductor inferior to pure copper
57:11 <Nothing\> i was just asking somebody in here about that the other day because the first inductor i ever wound i inadvertently used steel wire
57:35 * electrohead finally appears
57:45 <Nothing\> and one experiment i always liked doing with inductors was to put a magnet in the middle of the coil, then energize the coil and watch the magnet dance
58:34 <Nothing\> arch, i didn't even get my magnet wire anywhere special it was just off of the first store i came across selling it on aliexpress
58:51 <Nothing\> .2mm
59:09 * arch stuffs electrohead into a potato sack and whacks it around 
59:31 <Nothing\> gotta beat out the lumps lol
59:35 * Nothing\ hugs electrohead 
59:39 <Nothing\> how ya doing buddy?
00:14 <electrohead> lol
00:16 <electrohead> hey guys
00:22 <electrohead> I'm doing, how about you?
00:27 <Nothing\> oh yeah a great thing about decreasing the scaling on my desktop too is i got a lot more taskbar room
00:34 <electrohead> just got finished updating a few computers, and fixing the color printer
00:40 <electrohead> done for the most part, yay
00:40 <Nothing\> electrohead, i think i broke my big toe lol
00:44 <Nothing\> lost a fight with a wall
00:47 <electrohead> yeah I read that before
00:53 <electrohead> who won?
01:00 <Nothing\> yeah, fun times but at least it doesn't hurt anymore
01:18 <Nothing\> i just hate having to go to the hospital
01:30 <Nothing\> and that's weird, my eyes just went all screwy like i just turned of flux.io
01:43 <Nothing\> actually i think it's my tv
01:57 <Nothing\> wtf it's like the color suddenly went all warm
02:06 <Nothing\> yeah
02:17 <Nothing\> my video card's been doing some weird things lately
02:51 <Nothing\> a few times it was all blurry, or would just show a black screen with audio, or a normal screen with no audio
03:22 <Nothing\> usually i just unplug my hdmi cable and plug it back in and it fixes it
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05:12 <Nothing\> well i dunno, i unplugged my hdmi cable and even that didn't fix it
05:20 <Nothing\> and i sure as hell don't have flux.io installed
05:28 <Nothing\> lemme try a reboot
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08:54 <Nothing\> welp, restarting didn't help
09:15 <Nothing\> and i checked on other devices, it's just my computer doing it so it's a problem with the video card
09:50 <Nothing\> but what? i mean it's like it just suddenly went warmer for no reason at all. I don't even think I was doing anything on the computer when it happened.
10:33 <Nothing\> hrm maybe i should try safemode and see if it still does it
10:53 <Nothing\> but something tells me it's a setting in thta nvidia manager thing. I forget what it's called.
11:13 <Nothing\> control panel
11:44 <Nothing\> AHA i found it
12:02 <Nothing\> there's this fucking "night light" setting in your display settings in windows
12:10 <Nothing\> somehow it got enabled
28:46 <Nothing\> there, dusted off my old crutches
29:04 <Nothing\> took forever to get em at the right height
29:22 <Nothing\> apparently my daughter was playing with them years ago
39:23 <electrohead> you reproduced?
39:33 <electrohead> (lol)
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14:36 <Nothing\> oh yeah, she just turned 18
14:52 <Nothing\> we're estranged though so i don't really consider her my daughter anymore
15:01 <Nothing\> (less painful that way)
15:50 <Nothing\> but at least my bloodline will continue. Even if not legally or psychologically.
16:00 <Nothing\> not psychologically... sociologically?
16:11 <Nothing\> or a bit of both
16:14 * Nothing\ shrugs
18:56 <Nothing\> right on
19:34 <Nothing\> i figured out how to fit netflix and this final fantasy game i've been grinding onto one screen so i can watch seinfeld while i grind
19:41 <Nothing\> grind, farm, whatever
19:56 <Nothing\> and justenough space leftover forirc
30:12 <Nothing\> ah man i swear j. peterman was the best character on seinfeld
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43:25 <DHess_US> While I should have known or remembered that, I just verified that lifting a garage door with a broken torsion spring would be unusually stupid.
51:58 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/AmqN81a.jpg
54:27 <Nothing\> you guys ever see this?
54:29 <Nothing\> https://tic80.com/
54:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - TIC-80 tiny computer
55:30 <Nothing\> T3sl4, that's weird. I was just talking with some peolpe on YouTube about celebrities with surprising degrees
57:20 <Nothing\> i pointed out how bill nye's only degree was a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering from cornell, which considering is status in the science community among lay people I find surprising. Because that's the last sort of person you'd expectto know very much about the various topics he tries to cover
57:59 <Nothing\> i think he got an honorary degree somewhere too
58:22 <T3sl4> electrohead: randomly seen in the wild https://i.imgur.com/Y7jDeEc.png
59:50 <T3sl4> Nothing\: the other one i remember offhand is rowan atkinson, tho there are many
00:07 <T3sl4> or the uh, guy from rocky
00:21 <DHess_US> "Just" a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering doesn't mean he doesn't know the scientific method.
01:48 <DHess_US> Dolph Lungren has a master's degree in chemical engineering.
02:07 <T3sl4> and a couple others too? or was it just that
02:13 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/ZxQch9V.jpg
03:15 <DHess_US> haha, going to pass that on to a cancer survivor.
12:13 <Nothing\> T3sl4, there was an attractive female i recall
12:32 <Nothing\> possibly jennifer love-hewett(sp)
12:56 <Nothing\> who was actually pretty damn hot in her time
13:01 <Nothing\> still is afaik
13:31 <Nothing\> i wouldn't mind bendin' her o'er and giving her a jolly good rogering
13:51 <Nothing\> oh ffs why did i have to misplace my ecig
14:19 <Nothing\> i don't wanna have to call my mum down again to get it for me she just went back upstairs from grabbing something for me
14:36 <Nothing\> guess i've no choice
21:52 * DogWomble sends electrohead some fondoue
23:18 <Nothing\> heh i found the best toy for my cats
23:21 <Nothing\> nuts
23:49 <Nothing\> i have a bowl of mixed nuts sitting out and they keep stealing almonds and walnuts out of it to play with
24:17 <Nothing\> i think because they saw us feeding them to the squirrels. so now they're trying to feed the squirrels too.
24:24 <Nothing\> in order to summon them
25:08 <Nothing\> so hey here's a thought i had
25:17 <Nothing\> wtf ever happened to picture in a picture on TVs?
26:45 <Nothing\> it used to be such a huge deal in the late 90's, but it never really had any use cuz who's gonna watch multiple channels with no sound? The TV we had had 3 different settings. A split screen, a smaller screen in the corner of another channel full screen, or 9 different channels on the screen simultaneously
27:32 <Nothing\> i can't help but think how useful something like the first 2 functions would be in this day and age. Yet, I don't think any TVs with picture in a picture exist anymore. At least not any modern ones.
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14:44 <DHess_US> *sigh*, it was a matter of time, https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2021/12/thieves-using-airtags-to-follow-cars.html
14:46 <EEVBot> [Title] - Thieves Using AirTags to “Follow” Cars - Schneier on Security
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08:41 <Nothing\> DHess_US, ah yeah i read something about that a couple of days ago
08:54 <Nothing\> was "front page" on google news
09:00 <Nothing\> ie in the top 5 stories
45:56 <Nothing\> oooh nice, TI has an app note on designing a single supply electret pre-amp
46:29 <Nothing\> that's another circuit that's always eluded me, is a working microphone amplifier
50:49 * jaymax drops a good shit.
50:55 <jaymax> PRAISE THE QUINOA
52:27 <Halcyon> Evening all
52:37 <jaymax> Morning
16:44 <DogWomble> insert greeting here
18:41 <Nothing\> hey jaymax, Halcyon, DogWomble
18:54 <Halcyon> Heya Nothing\, how are you doing?
19:10 <DogWomble> yeah doing ok, how be you?
19:12 <Nothing\> how does this, <insert appropriate time of day for greographic location> find you?
19:29 <DogWomble> yeah i'm doing ok
19:31 <Halcyon> We could just use UTC :P
19:45 <Nothing\> Halcyon, lol i'm pretty sure i broke my toe tonight
19:50 <Halcyon> Which one?
19:52 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @mightyohm: RIFA - replace if found, always https://t.co/TjG80DQdxG
19:53 <Nothing\> big one
19:59 <Halcyon> Bugger
20:00 <Nothing\> so it's a real nuissance
20:02 <Halcyon> Did you strap it ?
20:04 <Nothing\> not to mention painful as hell
20:18 <Nothing\> i tried, but it was just cutting off the circulation
20:26 <Halcyon> Then it's too tight :P
20:28 <Nothing\> which was worrisome because the end of my toe's numb as it is
20:42 <Halcyon> That could just be swelling
20:47 <Nothing\> yeah, i tried doing it as absolutely loose as possible
20:59 <Halcyon> Have you got some popsicle sticks or something to make a small splint?
21:04 <Nothing\> they need to make medical tape that stretches
21:13 <Nothing\> that's the problem with it, it has no stretch to it
21:44 <Halcyon> https://www.nexcare.com/3M/en_US/nexcare/products/catalog/~/Nexcare-Soft-Stretch-Tape/?N=4326+3294529207+3294631201&rt=rud
21:52 <Nothing\> so as soon as the pt moves, it comes begins to come off, or pulls painfully at their skin
22:02 <Nothing\> no shit?
22:09 <Halcyon> Of course they make it :P
22:09 <Nothing\> damn 3M stealing my ideas before i have them
22:33 <Nothing\> but yeah, i'm going up to a&e tomorrow after i sleep
22:52 <Nothing\> i picked one in a relatively small town so hopefully the wait won't be too long
23:02 <Nothing\> especially on a weekday in the middle of the day
23:45 <Halcyon> Have you got an icepack at least?
23:46 <Nothing\> i find nights are absolute worst for the number of people in a&e
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23:55 <steve30> hi
23:55 <Nothing\> nah, i didn't have time to ice it
23:57 <Halcyon> It'll help with the swelling
24:02 <Halcyon> When did you break it?
24:29 <Nothing\> i was going out the door when it happened so i just hopped in the car once i stopped screaming and writhing
24:41 <Halcyon> Otherwise just throw some cotton wool in between and apply one round of tape, just to give it some support.
24:49 <Nothing\> took my shoe off after a bit, lest the swelling get me stuck
25:09 <Nothing\> yeah i've broken toes before and gotten by buddy taping them
25:12 <Nothing\> but this one, man
25:18 <Nothing\> holy fuck, the pain was unreal
25:37 <Halcyon> Eat hot chilly, it will help distract you :P
25:45 <Nothing\> i remember screaming "how the hell can one little toe hurt so fucking much?"
25:47 <Nothing\> lol
25:48 <Halcyon> *chilli
26:15 <Nothing\> Halcyon, actually there is legit medical evidence to support capsaicin as a bonafide analgesic
26:21 <Halcyon> I know
26:21 <Nothing\> ironically enough
26:27 <jaymax> Rub hot peppers on it.
26:36 <Halcyon> It also helps vastly improve long-term pain tolerance.
26:36 <Nothing\> jaymax, i've tried that
26:41 <Nothing\> not with my toe but in the past
26:47 <Halcyon> But it took me years to get that good :P
27:07 <Nothing\> when we were talking about femurs i was gonna mention i have patellofemoral pain disorder
27:21 <Halcyon> Which is?
27:46 <Nothing\> which is just a fancy way of saying my muscles are sorta off kilter so my kneecap gets pulled to one side and doesn't track smoothly along while my knee moves
28:00 <Halcyon> I see
28:35 <Nothing\> but anyways the long and short of it is it's caused me intermittent knee pain since i was 8
28:52 <Halcyon> You've had a hard life haven't you?
29:02 <Nothing\> so the one day it starts acting up and i'm desperate and looking for relief
29:19 <Halcyon> I've never so much as (knowingly) broken a boke
29:19 <Nothing\> Halcyon, it certainly has been a tough go of it but it is what it is
29:21 <Halcyon> bone
30:00 <jaymax> I have broken many bones - just none of mine.
30:16 <Nothing\> but anyway the one day i decide to put hot sauce on my knees as a sort of topical ointment after reading some medical journals about potential analgesic properties of capsaicin
30:20 <Halcyon> Hahahah jaymax
30:33 <Nothing\> ecxept in this study they were injecting the stuff into the pt's knees
30:36 <Nothing\> D:
30:38 <Halcyon> I bet you smelled nice after that Nothing\
30:48 <Nothing\> Halcyon, lol it was made with habeneros
30:54 <Halcyon> The best chillis
30:59 <Nothing\> it burned so damn bad i got in the shower asap
31:07 <Nothing\> and of course, hot water burns even worse
31:15 <Nothing\> so i have to take a cold shower
31:47 <Nothing\> and i'm in the shower screaming in pain and laughing my ass off simultaneously because the whole situation was so ridiculous
32:01 <Nothing\> i'm just glad i didn't get it anywhere near my damn willy
32:18 <Halcyon> Yeh chilli on the willy is never good
32:25 <Nothing\> HAHAHA
32:29 <Nothing\> OMG
32:38 <Nothing\> is that what the name chilly willy is from
32:51 <Nothing\> you know, the penguin from the woody woodpecker cartoons
33:04 <Nothing\> wait a minute
33:23 <jaymax> "That's right! You lick my snow balls"
33:25 <Nothing\> WOODY woodPECKER and chilly WILLY?
33:48 <Nothing\> i mean i'm sure it's a coincidence
33:53 <Nothing\> but that's a hell of a coincidence lol
34:52 <jaymax> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QawljZ90iiM
35:04 <jaymax> It's been done. ^
36:01 <Nothing\> but yeah with my toe Halcyon it pretty much fits all of my criteria for being broken, severe pain that had me groaning on the floor for about 20 minutes, absolutely can't move it to save my life, swollen as hell, and something sure doesn't feel right inside for lack of a better way of explaining the feeling
36:11 <Nothing\> the only thing i don't have is bruisng, oddly enough
36:31 <Nothing\> i have this weird purple line going down my foot, but that's it
36:39 <Nothing\> only about 2in
36:47 <Halcyon> Stop fiddling with it :P
37:01 <Nothing\> lol fiddling with it's the last damn thing i wanna do
37:09 <jaymax> 2in is normal, right? right....?
37:26 <Nothing\> jaymax, nah, google says 2in means it's cancer
38:00 <jaymax> Oh noes, clit cancer again.
39:56 <Nothing\> Halcyon, lol when i did it, i was going to the dispensary and they saw me hobbling in using a shopping cart like a walker, so it was pretty obvious my foot was messed up. And we got talking and the one guy's talking about how his friend was in mexico and stubbed his toe and it wound up out at a 90 degree angle and i'm thinking "yup, that's about how my foot feels right now" because i hadn't even had a look at it y
39:57 <Nothing\> get all of my errands and stuff done first
40:20 <Halcyon> Hah
40:56 <Nothing\> i gave up after i almost knocked over my poor mum trying to support me. I'm not even that big, just 150lbs but she's almost 70, there's no way she can support a grown man with a gimp foot
42:12 <Nothing\> lamenting how if i'd have taken the crutches with (the dirty ones in the basement that i haven't used in 22 years) I would have been able to finish the errands
42:26 <Nothing\> cuz it happened just as i was going out the door
43:04 <Nothing\> but i was in too much pain to think so i just said screw it, let's just do what i set out to do and i'll figure things out from there
43:38 <Nothing\> lol such a stupid thing though
43:58 <Nothing\> i swear i've had my ass kicked by more walls than people
44:48 <Nothing\> i'm just glad it doesn't hurt anymore, at least not too bad
45:22 <K> hello slim pickings
45:44 <Nothing\> thankfully i still have some "super aspirin" leftover from something else. It's actually called toradol but that's basically what it is is just like aspirin, but much much more effective
46:05 <Nothing\> to the point that it's comparable to low doses of morphine for analgesia even though it's not a narcotic
46:16 <Nothing\> but being an nsaid, it screws up your stomach real bad
46:38 <Nothing\> hey k
46:50 <Nothing\> what say... thay?
48:38 <K> mesa wanna sleeps.
48:45 <K> and fuck snow.
48:57 <K> ugh, that came out wrong
49:17 <K> snow can get fucked (but not by me)
49:20 <K> there
01:36 <Nothing\> yeah we just started getting snow here,too
01:44 <Nothing\> you know, k I actually like snow
01:49 <Nothing\> for about the first week or two
01:57 <Nothing\> after that it can suck a fat D
02:07 <Halcyon> Nothing wrong with that :P
02:09 <K> there is too much of it
02:13 <K> for my liking
02:18 <Nothing\> Halcyon, lol true enough
02:26 <Nothing\> i guess that's not a bad thing depending who you are
02:41 <Halcyon> *smirk*
02:55 <Nothing\> i just say fat D out of habit
03:10 <Nothing\> cuz playing billiards my friends would always say "put your ball on the fat D"
03:11 <Halcyon> I'm not offended :P
03:26 <Halcyon> Life's too short to be offended by crap
03:38 <Nothing\> exactly
03:46 <Nothing\> it's too short to be shitty to eachother in general
04:11 <Halcyon> Unless the other person is a shit cunt, then they deserve it :P
04:46 <Nothing\> i'm always telling people, i don't care who you are or what your beliefs are or even if you like me, life sucks and i'm gonna do what I can to make it NOT suck as much as possible for me, and everyone else around me
04:56 <Nothing\> should the opportunity arise
05:17 <Nothing\> and in suc a manner as to not be taken advantage of, obviously
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05:45 <Nothing\> Halcyon, that's the thing i think there are genuinely people who have no place in society
05:50 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
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06:13 <Halcyon> I agree Nothing\
06:25 <Nothing\> but again i don't think that's through any fault of their own, you know. There's just something fucked up in their head. Maybe they were severely abused as a child and developed some mental health disorder as a result. You know.
06:53 <Nothing\> or it could just be the guy's a genuine shitcunt and just wants to hurt people for no good reason
06:59 <Halcyon> Well depends what you're talking about. Even if you take mental health out of the equation, some people are just shit bags
06:59 <Nothing\> which there are people like that too
07:14 <Nothing\> exactly
08:36 <Nothing\> that's cool you can still be so unbiased about it, even though you're probably on the receiving end of the worst of the worst of it on probably a fairly regular basis i would imagine
09:54 <Nothing\> i see videos of cops dealing with difficult people and just think to myself "there's no way i'd have the patience to do that job. I'd lose it on the guy so fast"
10:17 <Halcyon> I used to be Nothing\
10:30 <Nothing\> yeah? what changed?
10:42 <Halcyon> I specialised years ago
11:06 <Halcyon> I mean, I still see the worst of the worst, but it's usually images or videos
11:29 <Nothing\> ah okay so you got off the streets and took more a desk job type position
11:41 <Halcyon> But this is what shits me about how some people believe (which they are entitled to), that everyone regardless should be treated like equals.
12:08 <Halcyon> I agree to a point, but after that if you've demonstrated that you are a drain on society and have no chance of rehabilitation, you lose certain rights.
12:14 <Halcyon> Too bad, so sad.
12:43 <Halcyon> Individual humans are not important in the grand scheme of things.
13:07 <Nothing\> you mean in terms of a criminal who's mentally ill and done something depraved? or just mentally ill in general?
13:18 <Halcyon> Not even about mental illness
13:31 <Halcyon> Just absolute depraved fuckwits
13:46 <Halcyon> (Which, I guess crosses over into mental illness quite often)
13:52 <Halcyon> But that's secondary
14:06 <Nothing\> well i believe it all comes down to mental illness. Sure it's fucked up and depraved, but that's what makes it an illness, right
14:25 <Nothing\> it all = depraved acts
14:32 <Halcyon> I guess
14:53 <Nothing\> but then i guess that comes down to how one defines a mental illness in the first place
15:07 <Nothing\> which seems to be very subjective
15:12 <Halcyon> That's the tricky bit
15:31 <Nothing\> yeah, where to draw that line
15:46 <Nothing\> you know i guess i'm wrong in that it's not always mental illness
16:42 <Nothing\> as a thought experiment, say a straight shooter type average joe is waiting in line after having a shit day at the office, he's overworked, stressed out, has a kid on the way, you know, the whole shebang
17:20 <Nothing\> guy's a yank and has a carry permit, waiting in line someone says the wrong thing to him and in that one moment of disinhibition, the guy shoots him
18:25 <K> that is the price yanks have decided to pay for easy carrying of guns.
19:07 <Nothing\> there was nothing inherently wrong with him, he was just having a really bad day, had too much in the way of obligation, everyone expected too much of him, and he couldn't cope and it just turned him into a ticking timebomb
19:30 <K> he pays the price
19:31 <Halcyon> A scenario like that is so completely abnormal in most parts of the world Nothing\
19:33 <Nothing\> K: yeah it's stupid, imo if it causes one innocent death it's not worth it. That should be a no brainer.
19:41 <Halcyon> I can't think of a single time that has happened here
19:48 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah i'm realizing that now lol
19:55 <K> we had an incident some years ago in the cinema
20:05 <Nothing\> Halcyon, and yet look at how many school shootings have happened in the US
20:10 <K> some fuckiwt started arugment with some father and shot him dead
20:15 <Nothing\> there was just that one in michigan what? last week?
20:19 <Nothing\> 2 weeks ago?
20:41 <Halcyon> Eventually US weapons laws will catch up, but until then, it requires a huge shift in attitudes.
20:43 <K> fuckwit got jailed
20:46 <Halcyon> I see it slowly changing.
20:58 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah it just can't keep up
21:10 <Nothing\> it's so blatantly obvious open carry laws don't fucking work
21:16 <Halcyon> Of course they don't
21:20 <Nothing\> and the other ridiculous laws they have
21:32 <Halcyon> They haven't for the rest of the world. I fail to see why some people in the US think they are special
21:36 <Nothing\> but god forbid you tread on their hallowed constitution
21:45 <Halcyon> Hahah oh gawd
21:45 <Halcyon> Yes
21:51 <Nothing\> yeah
22:02 <Nothing\> meanwhile they're desecrating it worse than anyone else
22:05 <Halcyon> I love the argument "You can't change the constitution"
22:13 <Nothing\> (republicans)
22:18 <Halcyon> Umm yes you can fuck knuckle. What do you think an "amendment" is
22:38 <Nothing\> Halcyon, no no you don't get it, see
22:45 <Halcyon> Clearly
22:49 <Nothing\> it's like those people who don't "drive"
22:53 <Nothing\> they "travel"
23:17 <Nothing\> so they don't need to abide by laws that apply to drivers
23:41 <Nothing\> those 1st amendment auditors lol
23:51 <Nothing\> ugh i feel dirty just typing the words
25:26 <Halcyon> Oh thooooose types
25:26 <Halcyon> Hahaha
25:51 <Halcyon> I met a woman like that once. Tried to tell me "all laws were illegal and unconstitutional" but then relied on law to "prove" her argument.
26:12 <Halcyon> S-M-R-T
26:15 <K> she dumb.
26:16 <Nothing\> lol
26:29 <K> "u dumb." end of conversation
26:35 <Nothing\> that's like people who complain about how crooked facebook is on facebook
26:44 <Nothing\> well, maybe not
27:22 <Nothing\> i mean i guess you have no choice with that because that's where everyone is. If you tried using any other platform you're not going to reach nearly as many people as facebook
27:40 <Nothing\> even if the message is to stop listening to the message
27:54 <Halcyon> I don't use the socials
28:05 <Halcyon> I don't see the benefit
28:13 <K> but this is a social!
28:31 <Halcyon> This here is no different to having an in-person conversation
28:37 <Halcyon> Social media is the opposite of social
34:08 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yup. Again research has blatantly shown that communication is only 15% verbal. So that means only 15% of the meaning of what I say is getting through when I talk to somebody via text. In terms of intonation, body language, vocal inflection etc
34:44 <Nothing\> you probably don't miss out on THAT much information, but the amount is not insignificant, i can say that much with certainty
43:11 <Nothing\> welp time bed
43:22 <Nothing\> have a good one Halcyon, K
43:39 <Nothing\> time FOR bed
43:47 <Nothing\> see how tired i am? :P
44:10 <Nothing\> though i wouldn't mind having a time bed
44:12 <Halcyon> Good luck with your Toe
44:29 <Nothing\> thanks man. I'm sure it'll be fine
44:50 Quit: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) Quit: Leaving
45:01 * Halcyon wees at T3sl4 
45:55 <K> a wee T3sl4
46:07 <K> (with scottish accent)
26:52 <steve30> hi
35:00 <K> hiyaa
39:18 <Halcyon> Hey K
39:22 <Halcyon> Hey steve30
52:41 <steve30> hehe, I just realised that the reason the font in my latest video titles looks a bit odd is because i used the standard font when I meant to use the condensed version
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