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00:25:36 <Ampera> what's amusing about that is I was homeschooled, so I never had any cooking or woodworking classes really
00:25:52 <Ampera> but I still know how to cook, mostly of my own trial, error, and volition
00:26:05 * Ysjoelfir googles volition
00:26:08 <Ampera> and in theory I know some principles of woodworking, but youtube can be thanked for that
00:26:18 <Ysjoelfir> ah, willpower
00:26:23 <Ampera> aye
00:26:41 <Ysjoelfir> yes, for woodworking the same goes for me. I've been binging on Rex Krugers videos lately.
00:26:51 <Ysjoelfir> I got some nice woodworking tools for christmas :)
00:26:55 <Ampera> Under Dunn is my favorite
00:27:27 <Ampera> Aging Wheels in general (Under Dunn is his second, woodworking oriented channel)
00:27:33 <Ampera> that guy really makes some neat shit
00:27:56 <Ampera> like rebuilding his entire table saw entirely out of wood
00:28:30 <Ampera> or just, machining a hard wood into bandsaw blade guides
00:28:42 <Ampera> or a zero clearance dust collection box for his chopsaw
00:29:09 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMABHak-OpZbC7k3HT2P5yQ/videos
00:29:19 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D I think I saw that guy before
00:30:20 <Ysjoelfir> yep, I did. nice
00:46:10 * steve30 wonders what to have for dinner today
00:46:16 <Ysjoelfir> same
00:46:21 <Ysjoelfir> there is nothing in the house anymore
00:46:30 <Ysjoelfir> we'll probably have indian
00:48:18 <steve30> Fetch me some too please
00:49:32 <Ampera> we're going out to a texas roadhouse today
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00:50:50 <Ampera> good morning coppice
01:12:10 <coppice> Is it? Is it really?
01:12:35 <coppice> In just the next 24 hours I will age by a year
01:12:37 <Ampera> coppice, no, but I wanted to make it worse by pretending it was.
01:12:55 <Ampera> is it your birthday tomorrow?
01:13:04 <coppice> yes
01:13:14 <Ampera> that sucks
01:16:14 <Ampera> in other news I've resolved my mouse problem. I just bought one of EVGA's cheaper mice, as sadly they're the least stupid around, so if it breaks I'll just keep buying new ones
01:21:32 <coppice> We had mouse problems in the spring, but a couple of traps with a little cheese fixed those
01:26:54 * T3sl4 tosses steve30 out into the snowbank https://i.imgur.com/qh7mKCB.gifv
01:27:35 <steve30> lol
01:27:46 * T3sl4 pets Ampera
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02:27:50 <electrohead> o/
02:34:14 <steve30> hi
02:37:28 <electrohead> hey
02:42:10 * Ampera hugs electrohead
02:42:13 <Ampera> how are you doing electroguy
02:43:10 <electrohead> electroguy?
02:43:12 <electrohead> lol
02:43:15 * electrohead thinks
02:43:24 <electrohead> doing ok I suppose :p
02:51:50 <TheDude> hello
02:51:58 <TheDude> how's it going?
02:53:13 <electrohead> yo
02:53:27 * electrohead offers coffee
02:56:34 <TheDude> eh... not a coffee guy
02:56:56 <TheDude> tea is my cup of tea :D
02:57:05 <T3sl4> mmm, coffee
02:57:15 <Ampera> hi TheDude how are you doing
02:57:19 <Ampera> I don't like coffee nor tea
02:57:37 <Ampera> honestly, I'm not much of a fan of hot drinks, but if I must have one, warm lemon with a bit of sugar is good
02:57:45 <TheDude> hey
02:58:13 <TheDude> I set up a configuration file for the client yesterday
02:58:29 <TheDude> so I don't have to write long-ass commands to start the ssh session
02:58:40 <Ampera> nice
02:59:05 <electrohead> TheDude: now give it some time, and your ssh config file will be several hundred lines long
02:59:06 <electrohead> :D
02:59:14 <TheDude> now moving forward with the zynq
02:59:20 <TheDude> hehe, probably not that bad :)
02:59:28 <Ampera> my .ssh/config isn't even that long
02:59:34 <Ampera> that being said I don't have a lot of computers
02:59:40 <Ampera> (that have ssh)
03:00:25 <TheDude> for some odd reason the designers of the board that I bought conected the ethernet controller to PL pins, instead of PS
03:00:39 <TheDude> and I've been beating my head, trying to figure out why they've done that, but no cigar
03:01:35 <TheDude> one thing that came to mind is that they rolled their own ethernet logic to minimize the delays
03:02:05 * electrohead stares at the collection
03:02:07 <electrohead> >.<
03:02:08 <TheDude> as this was used as a miner, and minimizing latencies might have been needed
03:02:20 <electrohead> TheDude: what board is it?
03:02:26 <TheDude> ebaz4205
03:02:29 <Ampera> electrohead, do you have a distcc cluster running?
03:02:35 <TheDude> searching this should show you all the details
03:03:18 <electrohead> Ampera: I do, but still need to add more computers to it, along with need to finish the cluster for compiling on armv7h
03:03:36 <Ampera> how do you have it implemented
03:03:48 <electrohead> TheDude: oh oh, this thing!
03:03:51 <Ampera> as I've considered, when I move out, slowly investing in an ARM supercomputer-cluster thing
03:04:14 <TheDude> electrohead, yeah, it's quite interesting
03:04:24 <TheDude> and impossible to beat for that price
03:04:39 <electrohead> Ampera: so, once you understand how it is supposed to be configured, and, especially with arch, it's really simple to get up and running
03:04:45 <Ampera> My concern is I'll spend a lot of money on a cluster like that and get performance that might as well have been gotten by a higher end Ryzen chip
03:04:50 <Ampera> no that's not my concern
03:04:54 <Ampera> I mean topology
03:05:21 <electrohead> uhh
03:07:57 <electrohead> DISTCC_HOSTS="localhost/5 192.168.20.17/5 192.168.20.30/12"
03:08:08 <electrohead> ok, this is my /etc/makepkg.conf
03:08:12 <Ampera> :/
03:08:18 <electrohead> for now, it's minimal
03:08:19 <Ampera> you could have just said, I have 3 computers in it
03:08:34 <electrohead> I forgot exactly what I had set
03:08:37 <electrohead> :p
03:09:12 <electrohead> but, just this laptop, the main file server, and then the workstation/tower just hanging out in my tv room
03:09:47 <electrohead> do need to add at least the other dev servers, which would raise the thread count up by 8 more, if I recall correctly
03:09:55 <Ampera> I'd like to set up some sort of build farm, but I'm considering how best to do that, if it should be with a few high performance individual systems, or a large cluster of cheap systems clustered together
03:12:26 <electrohead> man, I still need to setup the arm cluster in here; I have 6 r.pi 3 B+'s just .. on all the time. sure, they get used, but a decent amount of time, they *do* sit idle
03:12:47 <electrohead> maybe I'll designate that as next weekend's project
03:28:35 <electrohead> TheDude: what all have you done with that board, so far?
03:28:52 <TheDude> not very much, tbh
03:29:04 <TheDude> I tried dicking around with the petalinux that was already on there
03:29:27 <TheDude> removed all of the mining software and changed the root password and whatnot
03:30:03 <TheDude> I then wasted a shitload of time trying to get various flavors of linux to work on VMs
03:30:26 <TheDude> to get the petalinux compiler on there
03:30:59 <TheDude> I'm now screwing around with vivado, trying to make a BSP to compile the petalinux for it
03:31:04 <TheDude> and get it booting on the board
03:31:15 <TheDude> basically a shitload of work, without much to show for it
03:33:00 <electrohead> well, I hope you get somewhere
03:33:22 <electrohead> thought about picking one of those up, but.. not sure what to do with it :p
03:33:48 <TheDude> I already have a project in plan with it :)
03:33:57 <TheDude> multi-phase power meter
03:34:37 <TheDude> something that can sample at a high enough frequency to be suitable for evaluating high-frequency inverters
03:34:50 <electrohead> once you get to that point, you'll definitely have to put it on github
03:35:00 <electrohead> imagine lots of people would like that
03:35:02 <electrohead> :p
03:36:38 <TheDude> not entirely sure about that :D
03:37:02 <electrohead> well, not much else has been done for that board
03:37:12 <electrohead> so, anything would be a plus, lol
03:37:21 <TheDude> you can find github repos from chinese dudes for that board
03:37:25 <TheDude> but that's about it
03:37:36 <TheDude> I've been hoping to find a ready-to-go BSP for it
03:37:40 <TheDude> but to no avail
03:37:53 <TheDude> I might share that if I manage to get something working decently
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04:11:07 <rust_collector> zzzzzz mornings
04:11:11 <electrohead> o/
04:13:40 <Kuschelpony> Hello
04:14:49 <rust_collector> I think someone stole all my caps, and left a pile of phone chargers... it is a bit weird
04:26:51 * T3sl4 glances around definitely not suspiciously
04:36:47 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rusty
04:37:03 * Ysjoelfir hands T3sl4 silently another phone charger
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04:37:23 * electrohead hands out more phone chargers and runs
04:37:25 * T3sl4 shadily passes Ysjoelfir another hug
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04:37:48 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
04:38:28 <electrohead> \o/
04:38:44 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/gallery/zMiDevI
04:39:06 * T3sl4 hugs electrohead
04:40:41 <steve30> That finger could be better used for petting the cat, rather than a touchscreen.
04:42:38 <rust_collector> you mean, you could make the cat more tubular, to fit your new microphone better?
04:52:40 * electrohead hugs T3sl4
04:55:54 <T3sl4> rust_collector, spherical or nothin
05:04:47 <arch> neat https://www.eetimes.com/save-a-buck-with-a-coupled-inductor/
05:05:40 <arch> 'The sometimes mysterious “minimum load” requirement can be overcome simply by putting both windings in series or operating with D < 0.5'
05:25:07 <Ysjoelfir> always fascinating, if you order indian food and tell them to make it very very mild then it'll be barely earable :D
05:36:05 * electrohead puts his left ear in Ysjoelfir's food
05:36:20 <arch> i wonder, is it possible to make a multi-phase buck conv using two individual buck convs with a sync pin, and you supply the sync pins with signals 180 deg apart
05:36:45 <arch> like with a 555 timer or whatever
05:37:21 <Kuschelpony> arch: yes
05:37:36 <Kuschelpony> if they are with passive rectification
05:37:36 <arch> but maybe including a bit of dead time so they dont overlap
05:38:10 <arch> Kuschelpony, cool. do you have an example or have you built one before?
05:39:29 <Kuschelpony> built as experimentation yes, example no
05:40:07 <Kuschelpony> i used an 4093 cmos for the control oscilator, and i think it was the L4960 buck converter, where one error amp controlled boith PWM
05:40:09 <arch> i'd probably like to make that experiment too, but im kinda a lazy bum D:
05:40:19 <Kuschelpony> to avoid them both regulationg agains each other
05:41:05 <arch> how was the performance?
05:42:00 <Kuschelpony> not obviously different to a single one, i just made an experiment a while ago
05:43:03 <arch> i have a lotta LM2560s around
05:43:18 <arch> o woops, wrong one
05:43:26 <Kuschelpony> hmm, should be possible as well, i might study the datasheets tomorrow
05:43:30 <arch> err i forgot the 25xx, the xx
05:44:14 <Kuschelpony> unfortunately these recent years (alrerady before the C thing) i lost a lot of time and motivation for electronics, beeing more interested in other stuff to go out and explore the world
05:44:15 * Ysjoelfir watches electrohead s left ear disintegrate while his right ear catches fire
05:44:26 <Kuschelpony> yep 2596 and so
05:45:40 * arch puts a crab in Ysjoelfir's pants
05:46:17 <Ysjoelfir> yikes
05:46:52 <Kuschelpony> its probably a mix of midlife crisis plus the hard truth of that the next generation cuts off contact to me as beeing "too old" for their events
05:47:00 <Kuschelpony> sorry personal rant over
05:47:27 * arch headpats Kuschelpony
05:48:04 <arch> can't stand most 20-ers and under
05:48:08 <arch> so annoying
05:48:23 <arch> DAMN KIDS, GET OFF MA LAWN
05:48:31 <Kuschelpony> well im now 43
05:48:53 <arch> haven't reached 30 yet, but i feel like some old mofo
05:49:04 <Kuschelpony> i do have zero issues with people between something 20 and 80, but many young ones do have with me
05:50:23 <arch> well, covid's taken away their party times, sooo there's that. now nobody gets to attend parties :D
05:51:18 <Kuschelpony> yeah, thats an other story
05:51:36 <Kuschelpony> i was never into that kind of "party"
05:51:45 <arch> same here :D
05:52:19 <Kuschelpony> but after a few decades of sitting at home and beeing focussed to make electronics, i discovered how i missed to go out to the world and explore that crazy stuff
05:53:14 <arch> eh, i don't think i'll ever get tired of EE stuff, even though im not very good at it. i love learning new tech
05:54:02 <arch> why dont ya buy a campervan and go roaming?
05:54:17 <arch> and put a little electronics lab in it in case you wanna do EE on the go :D
05:54:25 <Kuschelpony> hihi its a bit different
05:54:32 * steve30 will be 30 soon
05:54:45 <arch> then your username will finally make sense for a year
05:54:51 <Kuschelpony> and well i have a electronics lab at job and at home so this will never stop to be my other but now smaller hobby
05:55:03 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/us4affg9hq761.jpg
05:55:26 <arch> are you an engineer?
05:56:07 <Kuschelpony> hmm, a kind of, not formally but emerged from developing past of beeing just a service tech
05:56:22 <arch> most engineers have superiority complexes, just take a look at T3sl4--what a snob. ignore those types of youngsters and stick with the good ones Kuschelpony
05:56:32 * arch headpats T3sl4
05:56:59 * T3sl4 pushes away arch's patting hand
05:57:16 <arch> i was just kidding with ya T3sl4 ='(
05:57:20 <Kuschelpony> oh i have zero problems with other engineers, we understand in technical terms well
05:57:32 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/8HtGIuT.gif
05:57:42 * arch tries to lure T3sl4 out of his closet by tempting him with some nixie tubes
05:58:02 <Kuschelpony> what i am missing in life are totally other kinds of exploring stuff (that link is SFW) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPPe9OHEaP8
05:59:02 <arch> i'd rather go out to space. gotta go big
05:59:10 <T3sl4> i appreciate, but am concerned, that you felt it necessary to note SFW :P
05:59:51 <rust_collector> what makes you think we want sfw links?
06:00:53 <arch> honestly, i'd pay $10k USD, right now, for a suborbital flight. but shit is like $100k+ atm
06:00:55 <Kuschelpony> oh, just extrapolating from some other chatrooms and trying to be on the safe side
06:01:06 <rust_collector> heh. ok
06:01:34 <arch> and you don't even need that much fuel for a suborbital flight to 100km height
06:01:47 <T3sl4> i'd say this isn't telegram; but being IRC, i don't think that really amounts to anything
06:01:54 <Kuschelpony> i never know in detail where someone personalyl draws the line as some stuff might be legally SFW but already a bit too weird
06:02:04 <T3sl4> arch: vomit comet tho
06:02:17 <arch> vomit comet doesn't go to space tho
06:02:41 <arch> if you go to 100km or above, you become an astronaut automatically :D
06:03:07 <arch> i can add that to my resume: * useless bum ; * astronaut ; * EE wannabe
06:04:18 <rust_collector> useless EE astronaut
06:04:23 <T3sl4> you can get higher for cheaper
06:04:28 <rust_collector> sounds good
06:04:34 <arch> shrooms are not an alternative :D
06:04:37 * T3sl4 slaps some "postage" on arch
06:04:53 <rust_collector> shrooms in space.
06:05:05 <arch> yo dawg, i heard you like being high
06:07:39 <T3sl4> it's actually semi-standard to have a little brandy in space, and by "have", and "standard", i mean it's been flown on a number of occasions before, but as i understand it no one has opted to consume it
06:08:18 <arch> that's just dumb. lifting that brandy to space probably cost $10k for 1kg mass
06:08:46 <arch> maybe they should consume it on their last day on the mission before returning to earth
06:10:12 <T3sl4> more like a few x 30g
06:10:38 <arch> that's still $1k for 100g. waste of money and rocket fuel
06:14:06 <rust_collector> nah, they will burn the money and/or fuel anyway
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06:27:05 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/Catswithjobs/comments/kl1bvs/tech_team_successfully_repaired_your_computer/
06:27:43 <steve30> meow
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07:30:23 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/7Md7sZv.jpg
07:39:12 <electrohead> DHess_US: lol
07:54:32 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20201227_155306.jpg
08:06:49 <Ysjoelfir> is it that bad? :D the game i mean
08:06:58 <Ysjoelfir> the food looks gorgeous Ampera
08:07:01 * Ysjoelfir wants some
08:07:14 <rust_collector> evil game
08:09:51 <Ysjoelfir> is it?
08:11:42 <rust_collector> I have no idea. kurwa kurwa
08:13:36 <Ysjoelfir> cyka blyat
08:13:50 <rust_collector> I do not like tidying up before christmas, because now I have no idea where stuff is
08:14:00 <Ysjoelfir> I know that problem
08:16:21 <rust_collector> I slapped together a little lm317 thing, and now the only thing I can use to test it is a h7 bulb, which is a bit much. unless I can use this pile of phone chargers in some way
08:18:46 <rust_collector> I am thinking I might try to play geoguessr a bit
08:31:43 <Ysjoelfir> geoguesser is nice :) And lm317 thingies as well :D
08:32:55 <rust_collector> I am a bit annoyed, because I can not get it heat up much. or maybe it is toasty, and just has no contact with the cooling
08:34:42 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/Rl0wa8n.jpg
08:41:33 <coppice> T3sl4: all suffering is the result of breathing
08:42:08 <T3sl4> oxygen is highly toxic, everyone who breathes it has died, or will die
08:42:36 <coppice> rust never sleeps
08:42:54 <rust_collector> so?
08:43:24 <coppice> So is by a different artist
08:44:03 <rust_collector> mkay, then i am not interested
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09:19:17 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Andrew McCarthy: My Christmas gift to you- my most detailed moon image, ever. Captured two nights ago during pristine conditions. Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday this year despite everything we've all been through. #astrophotography #space #opteam https://t.co/SXLEXvc6hB
09:19:28 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, how come the tweets aren't in bold anymore?
09:21:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chris Anderson: Still remember how bummed I was when I learned that antimatter doesn't exhibit antigravity. Seems unfair, really
09:22:29 <Andre> They are bold?
09:23:20 <Halcyon> Hmmmm, not on my end...
09:23:37 <Halcyon> Oh well if everyone else can see them, that's fine
09:25:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Four ways I realised it's a public holiday today: 1) Roads are pretty empty 2) No construction happening 3) I'm the only one in the office building underground carpark 4) Building lifts are on weekend security timing
09:26:24 <steve30> they're bold here
09:26:31 <Halcyon> Yeh it's all good, figured it out
09:28:40 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: You Had One Job!: Lightly used Tie Fighter rolling chassis for sale, needs paint and some other parts to get it back in the air. No low ballers I know what I got. https://t.co/MTbokFL9LZ
09:28:57 <Halcyon> Gee, Dave is busy on the Twitters this morning
09:29:47 <steve30> I'm browsing XTube. That's more fun that Twitter.
09:36:42 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Change my mind. https://t.co/S2kAZIZo1a
09:39:12 <electrohead> they're bold on my end
09:39:23 <electrohead> and, hey o/
09:42:24 <T3sl4> o/
09:51:54 <Halcyon> Morning :)
09:52:39 * steve30 should rummage through Halcyon's stash of computer hardware
09:53:02 <Halcyon> Yeh you mentioned a 2.5" drive yesterday, what capacity were you after? I have a some
09:53:36 <steve30> maybe >80GB
09:53:43 <Halcyon> SATA?
09:53:49 <steve30> ide
09:53:59 <Halcyon> Let me go get my box and I'll have a look
09:57:17 <Halcyon> Largest IDE I have in 2.5" is 100GB, which you are welcome to
09:57:27 <Halcyon> I don't have many laptop drives compared to 3.5"
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10:04:53 <steve30> ooh, thanks
10:05:23 * steve30 is just putting clean bed sheets on
10:05:34 <Halcyon> Why? Did you make a mess? :P
10:07:43 <steve30> nah, i just like snuggling up in clean sheets & pyjamas. And its nearly snuggle time :)
10:08:09 <Halcyon> I'm surprised you are actually going to bed, at bed time :P
10:08:13 <Halcyon> Not at midday
10:10:00 <coppice> what does "pyjamas" mean?
10:13:34 <Halcyon> Good question coppice :P
10:30:21 <steve30> they're useful for people who don't have cuddly boys to keep them warm
10:36:17 * electrohead walks away slowly
10:36:20 <electrohead> lol
10:36:39 <Halcyon> :P
10:37:03 <MrMobodies> Hello
10:37:39 <MrMobodies> thank you for reminding me about Compuserve yesterday. I like the news page
10:37:40 * steve30 kinda fancies some food before bed
10:37:41 <MrMobodies> https://www.compuserve.com/news/
10:38:33 <MrMobodies> It reminds me of Google news many years ago until one day it got changed and look bloated to me
10:38:44 <MrMobodies> I don't have scroll much to read things
10:40:43 <MrMobodies> I once brought a 100GB Seagate 7200rpm drive from China, very quick and i paid £30 for it in 2012.
10:41:09 <electrohead> was it stuffed full of usb flash drives? lol
10:41:10 <MrMobodies> I gave it to a friend who had an old laptop and sadly it suffered the same fate as the other
10:41:51 <steve30> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Coming-soon-7/114588136840?hash=item1aadfc3588:g:PCQAAOSwLTZfcjQ5
10:41:51 <MrMobodies> it wasn't treated well and i
10:41:53 <steve30> Interesting item
10:43:24 <MrMobodies> so many of them
10:43:40 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ssn=apollo92&_pgn=2&_skc=50&rt=nc
10:45:32 <steve30> Kitty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWLuPgZCSkg
10:48:02 <MrMobodies> looks like the cat gave up easily
10:48:18 <MrMobodies> there is a local cat missing in my area for like a year
10:48:24 <MrMobodies> lots of posters for it
10:48:29 <MrMobodies> I have seen that cat around
10:48:40 <MrMobodies> I spoke the owner and apparently it sometimes comes back
10:48:57 <MrMobodies> it seems to live an independent life
10:49:06 <MrMobodies> I saw it eating the bread i left out for the birds
11:03:58 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
11:04:01 <Halcyon> YAY
11:04:07 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
11:04:14 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
11:04:46 <Ampera> I suppose that question might be best answered tomorrow. In essence, I'm dealing with my dad.
11:04:54 <Halcyon> Say no more
11:05:02 <Ampera> just had a very long, philosophical conversation with my grandfather about the situation
11:05:09 <Halcyon> Mmmm...
11:05:28 <Ampera> ultimately what happened is my dad has been doing a lot of things without me and neglecting me, and no matter what I'd do, he'd never hear me when I said it caused me pain
11:05:52 <Ampera> and that was up to the last compromise I made, on the 23rd, when I tried to have a christmas with my family, and he never really participated.
11:06:15 <Ampera> I think what I ended up doing, by not doing actual christmas with him, was tried to say, in the strongest way I could, that he's hurting me
11:06:35 <Ampera> the issue is he's had no reaction. He's said nothing, and that's making me nervous.
11:06:53 <Ampera> because I need him to know how I feel, and all of my other attempts to tell him, in every way I could think of, have failed
11:07:26 <Ampera> There is a large pile of presents on the landing upstairs, and I've neglected them since Friday, they're presents he got me.
11:07:38 <Halcyon> Some people need to be approached directly and told
11:07:41 <Ampera> I'm going to offer tomorrow for me to open them with him.
11:07:43 <Ampera> Halcyon, tried it
11:07:49 <Halcyon> Then he just sounds like a jerk
11:07:52 <Ampera> I've yelled at him, I've talked with him calmly, and everything in between
11:08:04 <Ampera> he just never got how much he hurt me
11:08:16 <Ampera> but I think this may be my last chance to try to tell him.
11:08:25 <Ampera> and try to use that as a way to repair our relationship.
11:08:29 <Halcyon> Well, unfortunately, sometimes you can't fix these things.
11:08:36 <Ampera> that's what I'm afraid of
11:08:43 <Ampera> but my point is I have one last chance to try
11:08:46 <Halcyon> *hugs*
11:08:58 <Ampera> it's 82 in here
11:08:59 <Ampera> wow
11:09:39 <Ampera> so, tomorrow, I'll try to take work off sick, come up early in the morning, and try one last time.
11:09:48 <Halcyon> That's about all you can do
11:10:28 <Ampera> I just want my life back.
11:11:18 <Halcyon> Which is why I think it's important for you to buy your own place and become more independant. So you aren't having to live through this, day in, day out.
11:12:07 <Ampera> It's not gonna happen tomorrow
11:12:22 <Halcyon> No it's not
11:12:23 <Ampera> and I really wish I could treat it as a new step in my life, rather than a desperate act to get away from this
11:12:41 <Halcyon> Well look at it which ever way you want, it's a positive step forward
11:13:49 <Halcyon> I need to shower and go to the shops before they close (it's a public holiday here today)
11:13:55 <Halcyon> I'll be back in an hour or so
11:14:43 <MrMobodies> Sad to hear that. It's always nice to be on good terms even when you move to another place.
11:17:38 <MrMobodies> makes me wonder if other things are happening to them, when someone buys presents but neglects.
11:45:06 <Ampera> MrMobodies, it's a two way sad, as I bought him presents he didn't want to open and he bought me presents I didn't want to open
11:45:36 <Ampera> and for me, the act of gift giving has a lot of intrinsic meaning within it, and to see it thrown away like that is very depressing
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13:08:21 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
13:15:41 <Halcyon> Holy crap, I wish I could do this: https://youtu.be/PSSCn7ZXt48?t=184
13:15:47 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera tightly
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13:16:23 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
13:16:33 <Halcyon> Doing OK, it's warm here today
13:16:53 <Halcyon> 24.5 degrees indoors
13:17:01 <Halcyon> Probably time for air conditioning
13:17:10 <Ampera> I feel interesting. I feel like I'm in a strange turning point of my life
13:17:21 <Halcyon> I don't blame you
13:17:23 <Ampera> I shouldn't say that though, as every time I have, I've been wrong
13:17:32 <Ampera> but how true it is all depends on how well tomorrow goes
13:17:36 <Halcyon> No, I actually agree with you
13:27:12 * Halcyon offers Ampera a slice of pizza and a glass of cider
13:27:21 <Ampera> hard or soft cider
13:28:15 <Halcyon> Hard
13:28:27 * Ampera eats the pizza, abstrains from things that are hard
13:28:34 <Ampera> *abstains
13:28:34 <Halcyon> Well fuck ya then
13:28:35 <Halcyon> :P
13:33:48 <Halcyon> Is it just me of is the name "Kid Pix" suddenly wrong these days?
13:34:01 <Halcyon> *or
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15:42:21 <Nothing\> argh
15:43:29 <Nothing\> i spent dozens of hours trying to 100% megaman x2, and i swear i've done it, I've got absolutely everything possible, which is supposed to unlock a capsule containing an upgrade that lets you do the shoryuken from Street Fighter II
15:43:34 <Nothing\> but alas, it's not there
15:44:17 <Nothing\> i was so happy to finally get through the damn maze of spikes before the capsule room and to have finally done it
15:44:22 <Nothing\> and nothing
15:44:27 <Nothing\> nothing tra la la
15:44:40 * Nothing\ wonders if anyone gets that obscure reference
15:44:44 <Halcyon> I have NFI what you are on about
15:44:59 <Nothing\> lol mega man X2
15:45:07 <Nothing\> and unlocking the shoryuken
15:45:35 <Nothing\> like unlocking the hadouken in mega man x
15:45:56 <Nothing\> only you didn't have to play through the same stage 5 times after 100%ing the game to get it
15:46:03 <Halcyon> Yes
15:46:11 <Nothing\> yeah just smile and nod
15:46:14 <Nothing\> lol
15:46:15 <Halcyon> :)
15:46:27 <Nothing\> anyways, how are? of your namesake i hope.
15:46:43 <Nothing\> halcyonistic?
15:47:05 <Halcyon> I'm doing well
15:47:09 <Halcyon> Back to work tomorrow :(
15:47:11 <Nothing\> good to hear
15:47:16 <Nothing\> aww that sucks
15:47:22 <Halcyon> Yeppers
15:47:22 <Nothing\> you like your job?
15:47:30 <Halcyon> I do, but it can be a lot of effort
15:47:37 <Nothing\> i gotcha
15:47:44 <Halcyon> I'm being seconded to the International Airport next week to watch people get off planes
15:47:51 <Halcyon> Not exactly riveting stuff
15:48:06 <Halcyon> *this week
15:48:39 <Nothing\> that's one thing i'm afraid of if i decide to do something electronics oriented as a career (if i ever start a career) is that turning it from fun stuff I have free reign over and can study whatever I want. If I go career I'd be turning it into work and take all the fun out of it.
15:49:01 <Nothing\> doubly so if I went back to school for it. Like, to me an hour is an eternity
15:49:02 <Halcyon> Well that isn't my regular job
15:49:32 <Nothing\> and that just follows the... whatever the opposite of the law of inverse squares is
15:49:38 <Nothing\> the law of squares?
15:49:47 <Halcyon> Government jobs/Policing is like the Army, at the end of the day, I'm still sworn and can carry a firearm, so they can rip you out of your usual job and tell you to go do something else temporarily.
15:50:03 <Halcyon> I just hope my uniform fits, it's been a while :P
15:50:21 <Nothing\> either way, you add an hour to that and it's more like 4 hours than 2, and 3 hours is more like 8 and 4 hours is more like 16 and so on
15:50:53 <Halcyon> I get travel time either side of my shifts, so actually it works out to be shorter
15:51:00 <Halcyon> It will just be a whole load of boring
15:51:03 <Nothing\> Halcyon, you're a government worker who carries a firearm as part of his work?
15:51:26 <Nothing\> oh i think i see what you did there
15:51:27 <Nothing\> lol
15:51:36 <Nothing\> you hear that? that's the sound of the joke going over my head
15:51:58 <Nothing\> that's cool you get travel time, though
15:52:03 <Nothing\> not many companies will do that
15:52:06 <Halcyon> It wasn't a joke
15:52:17 <Nothing\> i'm guessing that comes with a kickass benefits package as well
15:52:21 <Halcyon> Eh
15:52:30 <Halcyon> The pay is good, that's about all I can say
15:52:56 <Nothing\> i'm on disability, so i've got standard stuff, which just covers stuff most americans think we already get for free in canada
15:53:17 <Halcyon> Unlike the Army, we don't get dental
15:53:23 <Nothing\> like medication and basic dentistry (ie no implants or veneers or crowns or fancy stuff like that)
15:53:32 <Nothing\> you served?
15:54:35 <Nothing\> i think it woulda been cool to be a radar operator or other electronic engineer back in the day
15:54:46 <Nothing\> or engineer on a plane
15:54:56 <Nothing\> ie, the guy in charge of the radio stuff
15:55:28 <Nothing\> i'm sure engineers on B-52s had a lot more fun stuff to do, back then, though.
15:55:44 <Halcyon> My dad was a radar engineer in the army
15:55:51 <Nothing\> no shit?
15:55:54 <Halcyon> Yepo
15:55:55 <Nothing\> good on him
15:56:11 <Halcyon> He told me several times he used to get "burned" on the gear
15:56:18 <Nothing\> people like him ensured our (relatively) comfy lives today
15:56:19 <Halcyon> I guess safety standards were different back then
15:56:31 <Nothing\> lol i wonder what the output was on those thing
15:56:32 <Nothing\> s
15:56:38 <Halcyon> No idea, but enough to hurt?
15:56:56 <Nothing\> i was trying to find what the output was on standard cell stations cuz i notice a lot of them on residential structures
15:57:14 <Nothing\> i'm not sure which generation it's for, but near as i can tell it's no more than 1 watt
15:57:29 <Nothing\> which is impressive, if true
15:58:05 <Nothing\> i'm sure they have specific output patterns, too. Like they don't just put it all out as a sphere.
15:58:35 <Nothing\> it's probably more directional. Otherwise a lot of the signal would get lost going upwards to nothing
15:59:27 <Nothing\> oh yeah then you get those guys operating the VLF recievers on the subs
15:59:40 <Nothing\> that's some pretty cool tech
16:00:36 <Nothing\> ELF, not VLF. 3-30hz
16:08:57 <Halcyon> Sorry back, next door was at the door
16:09:17 <Nothing\> ah no worries
16:09:25 <Halcyon> 1 watt seems low, but yeh if the frequency was low, it makes sense
16:09:33 <Halcyon> Nothing like the radar these days
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16:25:09 <Kuschelpony> good morning, and also i will be off for thenext hours soon
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16:45:57 <Halcyon> I just watered the lawn, now it's pissing down with rain
16:50:08 <DogWomble> you could have checked the radars before you went out to water the lawn :)
16:50:24 <Halcyon> I did and the was bugger all out there
16:50:39 <Halcyon> I think this will be short-lived though
16:53:24 <Nothing\> i usually frown on households that just stick a sprinkler out for hours on end
16:54:12 <Nothing\> i mean, giving your lawn a hose down during a dry spell is one thing, but having your hose running for half the day just for the sake of growing something so useless is just wasteful
16:55:02 <Nothing\> frankly i find the idea of a lawn to be wastful. Not looking down on my nose at you or anything that's just how I feel in general
16:55:13 <Nothing\> nor is that to say i dislike you in the least bit
16:55:55 <Nothing\> it's just a social norm we need to change for the sake of being less wasteful
16:56:34 <Nothing\> but as Dennis Miller used to say, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
16:58:51 <Nothing\> just cuz I came across it in my tabs and it's a cool as hell article, here's a Ken Shirriff blog about old op-amps and recognizing parts on ICs: http://www.righto.com/2019/02/op-amp-on-moon-reverse-engineering.html
17:04:21 <electrohead> o/
17:14:25 <Halcyon> Morning electrohead
17:14:39 <electrohead> hey mate
17:29:47 <Nothing\> well fudge
17:51:23 <Nothing\> jfj
17:51:25 <Nothing\> huh
17:51:48 <Nothing\> there used to be a territory north of canada before we expanded out past ontario called rupert's land
17:52:03 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert%27s_Land#/media/File:Ruperts_land.svg
17:52:52 <Nothing\> i'm sure they mentioned something about it in school, but nobody remembers anything from school they don't use in the past 25 years
17:53:19 <Nothing\> it sounds kind f familiar
17:55:27 <Nothing\> you know, canada wasn't even a country until 1867
17:56:24 <Nothing\> incidentally, it happened on july 1st lol
17:56:53 <Nothing\> i think we were just trying to be like you guys, but at the same time trying not to make it look obvious by using the exact same date.
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19:36:35 <Andre> morning
20:06:36 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
20:30:28 <Halcyon> Hey Andre
20:33:26 <electrohead> g'morning
20:33:39 <electrohead> Halcyon: your tongue scared him away :p
20:33:53 <Halcyon> Seems that way
20:34:31 <Halcyon> I never noticed this in this music video: https://youtu.be/MXXRHpVed3M?t=100
20:39:27 <electrohead> hahaha
20:40:06 <Halcyon> They obviously went all-out on the 3DFX budget too :P
20:40:30 <Halcyon> Someone had fun with the shaders and the reflections
20:42:33 <electrohead> along with the virtual boobs :P
21:01:24 <Ysjoelfir> I heard boobs?
21:04:28 <Halcyon> :P
21:04:38 <steve30> hi
21:04:48 <Halcyon> Morning Steve :)
21:08:07 <electrohead> boobs are good, yes
21:08:09 <electrohead> lol
21:08:15 <electrohead> hey steve30
21:09:47 * steve30 wouldn't know about boobs
21:11:29 <electrohead> me and Ysjoelfir do, however
21:11:31 <electrohead> :P
21:12:02 <electrohead> alright, I'm going to bed, good night/morning o/
21:12:15 * steve30 just got up
21:13:25 <Ysjoelfir> gn8 mr head
21:13:39 <Ysjoelfir> gm...9 steve
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22:25:51 <hsn> hey
22:27:21 <T3sl4> monin
22:27:29 <hsn> mon T3sl4
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22:34:46 <hsn> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wetting_current
22:35:47 <T3sl4> it's "whetting current", the amount of force and speed used to sharpen a knife on a whetstone
22:36:10 * hsn knifes T3sl4
22:36:32 <T3sl4> knife to see you!
22:51:45 <steve30> its cold today
22:52:51 <T3sl4> tends to do that
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23:09:38 <steve30> This Dell 24" LCD gets nice and warm, but it doesn't seem as cosy as the Trinitron
23:10:38 <Ampera> my ultrawide will actually get particularly toasty
23:10:46 <Ampera> but it's not CRT cozy indeed
23:14:17 <steve30> This one has ccfl backlights so is probably warmer than a modern monitor
23:35:30 * Ysjoelfir throws his new cleaver at T3sl4
23:35:38 <Ysjoelfir> its sooo nice <3
23:35:42 <T3sl4> cleaver girl
23:37:09 <hsn> kluag girl ?
23:37:23 <hsn> kluag frau
23:37:26 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, ^
23:37:35 <hsn> u see what i did ? :D
23:37:46 <Ysjoelfir> klug. without the a :D
23:37:52 <Ysjoelfir> Kluge Frau :P
23:38:00 <hsn> yes but he put "a" in clever
23:38:00 <Ysjoelfir> oh
23:38:02 <hsn> :D
23:38:02 <Ysjoelfir> oooh
23:38:04 <Ysjoelfir> I see
23:38:10 <Ysjoelfir> now I see what you did there :D
23:39:07 <hsn> and now i know what is cleaver
23:39:35 <hsn> my google is so confused to see me searching about electronics and cleaver suddenly
23:41:42 <hsn> do u guys get compensate date if new year day was on holiday?
23:41:49 <hsn> compensate day*
23:42:14 <hsn> on weekend i mean
23:42:43 <hsn> crap .. typical me .. never phrase a good question in one time
23:43:03 * steve30 curls up next to T3sl4
23:43:23 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
23:45:04 * steve30 wraps up in a blanket
23:47:06 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - no, usually not.
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