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07:58 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
07:58 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:27 2020
07:58 <Nothing\> so i figured that might be what's doing it
07:58 <Nothing\> either way, it's a curiosity that can generate views
07:58 <Nothing\> i was pissed off when 3 blue 1 brown made a video about how superior it is to count on your fingers using binary cuz you can count to 32 on one hand and 1023 on 2 hands
07:58 <Nothing\> i had been considering doing a video like that for some years but never bothered out of laziness
07:58 <hsn> lol @ https://snipboard.io/K4Z0WD.jpg
07:58 <Nothing\> lol i like how in this 3DS video i get into a random encounter halfway through and just start groaning and making weird noises
07:58 <Nothing\> hsn: holy shit man
07:58 <Ampera> Nothing\, I'm afraid 3blue1brown didn't invent binary
07:58 <Nothing\> you could make so much money with that
07:58 <Ampera> what you could do is make a video about using a greater than base 2 counting system
07:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, no but they thought of the idea of making a youtube video about using it to count on your fingers
07:58 <Ampera> since your finger can be in different positions other than just straight up or folded, you could add more bases
07:58 <Ampera> er, a larger base
07:58 <hsn> this hidden tor links are lame
07:58 <Nothing\> i think some cultures do that don't that
07:58 <Nothing\> not with higher base system, but like they'll count using their knuckles or something
07:58 <Nothing\> it's weird
07:58 <hsn> "darkweb" etc etc .. i dont see anything intresting that doesnt exist in real web
07:58 <Nothing\> Ampera, i just tried with base 3 and holy crap is that awkward
07:58 <Nothing\> just trying to hold your fingers in the right position so the first knuckle sticks up, but nothing else of the finger for each finger individidually is difficult
07:58 <Nothing\> oh well, at least i had the foresight to teach my daughter to count in binary on her fingers when she was 5
07:58 <Nothing\> so that'll hopefully carry over into something useful
07:58 <Nothing\> i'm sure being able to understand binary from the age of 5 would be a huge advantage in this day and age
07:58 <hsn> Nothing\, i cant understand dec .. how would i understand anything else
07:58 <Nothing\> start from the beginning
07:58 <rust_collector> this thing with fingers and counting and stuff made me thing of a poster with a guy and counting to one
07:58 <Nothing\> lol i've been trying to teach my cats to count to 3, or at least what it means to count to 3 and such by constantly counting to 3 for them. even in every day tasks like if i give them treats, i'll count out 3 or when i'm playing fetch i'll count to 3 before i throw the ball.
07:58 <Nothing\> i dunno what i expect out of this but i think it's working
07:58 <Nothing\> cuz when i was throwing the ball i noticed my cats didn't react until i said 3 but before i threw the ball
07:58 <Nothing\> but for all i know they could just be thinking "okay when he says three he's going to throw the ball"
07:58 <Nothing\> instead of thinking about what happened before i said 3 since it doesn't really have anything to do with the rest of the events
07:58 <rust_collector> sure they will learn to wait until the idiot says three, before they do anything... if they understand that you did count 1 and 2? I doubt it
07:58 <Nothing\> yeah exactly
07:58 <Nothing\> so it's not the greatest test
07:58 <rust_collector> maybe they think three means BALL!
07:58 <Nothing\> nah they know what a ball is
07:58 <Nothing\> hell they even know what squirrel means lol
07:58 <Nothing\> you yell squirrel at them and they'll go running to the patio door
07:58 <rust_collector> but do the know the difference between a ball, and a ball, and a three?
07:58 <Nothing\> well i've been presenting them with one ball then saying "one" then doing the same for two and three balls
07:58 <Nothing\> so hopefully the male will be able to check himself for hernias now
07:58 <rust_collector> they think... "1" no, you dummy, that is a ball. "2" nooooo, that is a ball, "3" WHEEE! BALL!
07:58 <Nothing\> lol probably
07:58 <Nothing\> if they're even paying attention, half the time they're not even looking at what i'm doing
07:58 <rust_collector> I don't know if numbers are important to them.
07:58 <Nothing\> the one cat's from barn cat stock, so she's kind of a redneck but she's got street smarts
07:58 <Nothing\> but the other's from maine coon stock so he's bright as a whip
07:58 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) [EOF from client]
07:58 <Nothing\> rust_collector, there are plenty of other animals that have been taught to count
07:58 <Nothing\> although whether they understand the numbers or are just mimicking our behavior, who knows
08:00 <Nothing\> it's like those dogs that can supposedly talk by pressing buttons that say certain things like "food" or "outside" or "play" etc
08:38 <Nothing\> it could be argued that they don't know what they're doing, that they just learn that by pressing a specific button he can make his owner do things for him
10:13 <Nothing\> lol it reminds me of that movie with the monkeys from the 90's, can't remember the name congo maybe
10:54 <Nothing\> but they made this special glove they could put on the obviously fake monkey's hand so she could use sign language and the glove would say whatever words she's signing so it's like she's talking
11:42 Join: MRiddickW_ ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
11:50 <Nothing\> in reality they why even make the glove other than for the sake of audience members who don't know sign language. if you're gonna teach the monkey sign language then you already know sign language and don't need some glove to translate it for you.
12:56 <Ampera> Nothing\, you're talking to yourself again
13:02 <Nothing\> indeed
13:26 <rust_collector> it is time for you to answer, imo
14:05 Quit: MRiddickW_ ([email protected]) Client exited
23:14 <MRiddickW> Any good hot air stations for sub $300?
26:25 <coppice> Is it appropriate to say all recommendations are just hot air?
26:33 <MRiddickW> Ugh
26:39 <MRiddickW> That was a good one. ;)
26:41 <rust_collector> yes, it is
27:10 <Ampera> coppice, I'd say you're just a windbag
27:23 <Ampera> your jokes really blow
27:43 <MRiddickW> I don't know, I think they're a gas
27:49 <coppice> I find formulating them to be a breeze
27:52 <Nothing\> i hate it when wikipedia contradicts itself
28:03 <coppice> you must really hate wikipedia
28:22 <Nothing\> this one page says castle bravo had a yield of 6.0Mt, but another page says it was 15Mt
28:25 <rust_collector> I have never had one, so I do not know. the "best 863" seems to work ok, but it is a big box. maybe you should just buy a small pallet of the cheapest ones you can find?
28:39 <Nothing\> coppice, only when i can't access the citations
28:39 <MRiddickW> Ha!
28:47 <Nothing\> what good are citations when you can't even access them?
29:26 <rust_collector> Nothing\, don't worry about those details. The important thing with that bravo castle, is that it was really loud
29:31 <coppice> I cite Asians quite often
30:30 <Nothing\> but this youtube channel claimed operation "castle" (didn't say which of the 7 tests) had an expected yield of 20something megatons with an actual yield of 43Mt
30:35 <Nothing\> which is just right out
30:51 <Nothing\> so i was trying to correct him
31:46 <rust_collector> https://xkcd.com/386/
32:07 <Nothing\> but i don't believe the US ever made a bomb with a yield greater than 20Mt cuz their missiles were accurate enough that they didn't need to obliterate everything in a 50 mile radius to compensate for it like the soviets did
32:48 <rust_collector> well, isn't part of the idea of those bombs just to be the biggest and baddest?
33:21 <Nothing\> rust_collector, nah it's more if i were spouting incorrect facts, i'd want to be corrected too. rather than going around my whole life spreading incorrect information like a disease.
33:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector, i think that's one facet of it
33:52 <Nothing\> frankly i think nukes are the dumbest weapons ever made
34:21 <Nothing\> not since the germans tried using chlorine gas only to have it blow back in their faces
34:29 <rust_collector> i think they learned a lot from making them also, I dunno?
35:21 <Nothing\> oh yeah they learned a shitton from the Manhattan project and the other one nobody can ever remember the name of for fusion devices
35:40 <Nothing\> i'll just call it teller/ulam super happy fun time
36:55 <rust_collector> we used to have a research place, not very far from oslo. they are still finding reactor parts, and random stuff in barns and old sheds in that area. it is sort of interesting
37:12 <Nothing\> oh i see
37:34 <Nothing\> the predicted yield of castle bravo was 6.0Mt but the actual yield was 15Mt
38:03 <Nothing\> i do remember reading about how that miscalculation irradiated some islanders accidentally and a japanese fishing boat
38:34 <rust_collector> meh, they were just non americans, no problem
40:28 <rust_collector> i guess the bomb designers had a thing for glow in the dark japanese people.
41:04 <rust_collector> prfff. it is getting too late again. I have to at least go outside and look like I did something
52:39 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
05:36 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://www.reddit.com/r/PeopleFuckingDying/comments/kdlnmr/sick_bastard_exposes_bird_to_radiation/
20:51 Join: ThunderSqueak ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
20:51 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o ThunderSqueak
22:20 <ThunderSqueak> hi
23:40 <TheDude> hello
24:55 <ThunderSqueak> hows you?
29:04 <Nothing\> ah that was a good poop
29:09 <Nothing\> i needed that
29:43 <Nothing\> i'm pretty sure i've got literally about 3lbs of apple crisp in me
30:19 <Nothing\> seeing as i've been eating a pound of apple crisp a day for the last few days and haven't pooped more than a donut hole in over a week
30:27 <ThunderSqueak> *a chime is heard throughout the channel* (achievement Unlocked: Quality pooping)
30:35 <Nothing\> lol
30:49 <Nothing\> that was a quality poop, almost
31:27 <Nothing\> it was hard to clean up though. you know those poops where it's like there's a brown crayon up there or something and no matter how much you wipe you keep getting this one brown streak on the TP
31:45 <Ysjoelfir> Iiiiiii think I should go to bed now. :X
32:40 <ThunderSqueak> Nothing\, get a bidet
33:11 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, i use wet wipes
33:14 <Nothing\> they work just as good
33:21 <Nothing\> i only use TP to get the bulk
33:50 <Ysjoelfir> jep, indeed bed time now. gn8 all
34:03 <Nothing\> cuz i feel bad about flushing wet wipes after seeing what they do to municipal septic systems, so i throw them in the garbage now and i'd rather not have poop in my garbage
34:34 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, g'night man. hope you sleep well and have a good day tomorrow.
35:02 <Nothing\> ThunderSqueak, i would like a bidet, though
35:18 <Nothing\> but i feel like that's something i could do just as easily with a super soaker
35:42 <Nothing\> or maybe a project involving a super soaker and a derelict toilet
36:11 <Nothing\> make a hand pumped, compressed air powered bidet from a water gun lol
36:52 <Nothing\> actually that reminds me, i came up with a novel, but probably impractical way of measuring temperature earlier today while i was half asleep
37:43 <Nothing\> have a sealed container with flexible walls and a given amount of gas, producing a certain amount of pressure on said walls
38:16 <Nothing\> you use a stress gauge to measure how much those walls change shape due to the pressure
38:58 <Nothing\> then you can get a read on the temperature by measuring the deformation of the walls of the container
39:34 <Nothing\> but it also just occurred to me that both altitude and barometric pressure would affect that so it wouldn't be very accurate at all
39:43 <Nothing\> you'd have to calibrate it constantly
43:19 <electrohead> yo
44:04 <Nothing\> hey electrohead
44:10 <Nothing\> how's it going, buddy?
46:20 <electrohead> hye mate
46:21 <electrohead> hey*
46:40 <electrohead> it's going, at work currently, got everything done that I had to, now just browsing the web
49:43 <Nothing\> right on
49:55 <Nothing\> i'm just reading some xkcd and eating a pretzel bun
50:00 <Nothing\> the best bun there is
50:04 <electrohead> lol
50:08 <electrohead> https://github.com/kongmunist/asciiZOOM
50:13 <electrohead> I need to try this out, heh
50:16 <electrohead> seems fun, hahaha
50:42 <Nothing\> now that's cool
50:50 <Nothing\> and musta taken a moment or two to make
51:36 <Nothing\> i wonder if anybody's used their github account on their resume
51:57 <electrohead> me personally, I would never, but then again, I don't have an active account on github
52:05 <electrohead> just keep all of my stuff private
52:12 <Nothing\> or to try and get a job. Sorta like, "take a look at all the cool stuff i've made before. I could be doing this for you."
52:44 <Nothing\> electrohead, or maybe if you had an account specifically for your resume
52:51 <Nothing\> with just the best of the best of your work
53:08 <Nothing\> and no ties to other internet activities
54:21 <Nothing\> huh, interesting
54:23 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propofol_infusion_syndrome
54:45 <Nothing\> i always thought aside from the respiratory depression that propofol was relatively harmless
55:09 <Nothing\> i guess it still is, given the rarity of this. But it still surprises me.
58:43 <electrohead> oh for sure, that would work if an account was made and not tied to anything else
59:38 <Nothing\> huh, the survival rate of a cardiac flatline is only 15%
00:00 <Nothing\> and that's in ICU
01:59 <Nothing\> you can't even defibrillate somebody who's flatlining
02:14 <Nothing\> it's been found to be ineffective at treating it
02:43 <Nothing\> which is funny cuz that's always the first thing people do when somebody flatlines in a movie or a tv show
02:59 <Nothing\> just shock em a few times, they'll be right.
03:09 <electrohead> lol
03:42 <electrohead> he's choking! *zap zap*
04:10 <Nothing\> lol priapism? have 300 joules across your heart.
04:43 <Nothing\> which is about what they put out, i know 200 joules is on the low end, i'm not sure what the high end is.
05:28 <Nothing\> pretty impressive when you consider the energy in capacitors of various sizes is peanuts by comparison
06:06 <Nothing\> actually dave did a tear down of a defibrillator i think. i should look for that... or was it an ecg?
06:19 <T3sl4> they're pretty big capacitors
06:30 * T3sl4 wraps Nothing\ in film and foil
06:34 <Nothing\> i was gonna say i bet they've got huge capacitor banks in them
06:37 <TheDude> I'm fairly certain he did both
06:54 <T3sl4> mikeselectricstuff fired one at a few things, too
07:27 <Nothing\> and they'd need an MCU cuz you can't just dump all of the energy at once, it has to be a certain waveform at a certain point in the heart's rhythm
07:53 <Nothing\> i mean, you COULD just dump it all randomly, but it obviously wouldn't be as effectively
07:59 <Nothing\> effective
08:42 <T3sl4> not necessarily. what would an MCU do to control a lightning bolt?
09:46 <Nothing\> ah yeah mikeselectronicstuff did an implantable defibrillator
09:59 <Nothing\> this is a neat little channel. i should check it out more often.
10:27 <Nothing\> i'm subbed, but i don't recall ever seeing any of his content in my feed
10:43 <Nothing\> like, my "subscriptions" feed
10:57 <T3sl4> he posts very rarely
11:28 <Nothing\> eh there's one from just a couple of weeks ago. I figured I'd have seen that.
11:29 <rust_collector> Nothing\, if you feel like it some time, have a look at this boring truck thing. it is a hybrid, diesel/electric, using supercaps. https://sisuauto.com/en/hybrid/
11:44 <electrohead> mikeselectricstuff has some good teardowns
12:01 <Nothing\> rust_collector, cool, thanks man. I'll do that.
12:14 <T3sl4> haha, just supermiling in integrated form
13:07 <Nothing\> rust_collector, seems like you'd need a lot of super caps to get a useful voltage out of them
13:30 <rust_collector> well...
14:00 <rust_collector> these things are not cheap to start with, so a bit more in caps is probably ok
14:27 <Nothing\> good point
14:52 <rust_collector> if you save 1% in fuel... that is also a thing
16:40 <rust_collector> heh, the thermometer says it is -0.0c outside
18:17 * T3sl4 complements rust_collector's ones
19:17 <rust_collector> 111
19:24 <rust_collector> they are pretty nice
19:34 <rust_collector> 11 111 1 111111 11
19:41 * T3sl4 slaps rust_collector
19:50 <T3sl4> that's unary, not ones-complement binary!
19:50 <rust_collector> Hey! It is a ball!
20:07 <T3sl4> also that's compliment not complement, get it right ;)
20:33 <coppice> rust_collector: when the water is still liquid its +0.0C, once it freezes its -0.0C. I thought everyone knew that
21:33 <rust_collector> I am not paid enough to try to get things right.
22:01 <rust_collector> hmm, well, the car door was frozen shut. maybe there is something to that
24:10 <T3sl4> it was rainsnowing here a few days ago, then dropped below freezing, i think my car is still a bit "wet"
28:42 <rust_collector> that is one of the annoying things about living here. it is usually not cold long enough to get dry
29:51 <T3sl4> that sounds unusual for norway
30:54 <rust_collector> nah, not really. i am sort of to the south, and by the coast. we do not get "much" weather here
31:08 <T3sl4> figured, that would do it
31:37 <rust_collector> the south-west part is also very mild. inland, not so much
32:19 <coppice> rust_collector: I find I get exactly the same total amount of weather wherever I live.
33:12 <rust_collector> I did look it up a couple of weeks ago, and I am at the same latitude as some village a bit to the south of anchorage alaska. I thought that was interesting
33:56 <coppice> rust_collector: I find it interesting the London is on the same latitude as polar bear roaming Canada
35:15 <rust_collector> I found a map with those lines across it, and the only place I found, was all the way on the other side of america,
35:34 <rust_collector> I am sure there is something before that. but.. oh well
36:06 <rust_collector> hmm, in school, they said madrid was similar to new york.
36:19 <T3sl4> well, newfoundland, or, somewhere greenland or across from it
36:39 <T3sl4> but yeah, the ocean currents do warm things unequally by lattitude
37:37 <coppice> T3sl4: It sucks when you miss the Gulf stream. Southern Germany is colder than northern Germany
40:13 <electrohead> this is interesting - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2012.06884.pdf
43:07 <T3sl4> coppice: it's enough to make one Lear
45:20 <Nothing\> mmmm fruitcake with marzipan topping
46:02 <T3sl4> Nothing\: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JnfQKBoRdfM/hqdefault.jpg
46:04 <Nothing\> marzipan may be one of the most tasteless snacks ever, but its texture goes great with this fruitcake
46:25 <Nothing\> lol
47:06 <Nothing\> i once bought a bar of pure marzipan just to see what it tastes like cuz it's not very common here and it was not very good on its own.
47:08 <coppice> how is almond tasteless? its tastes strongly of cyanide
47:32 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
47:34 <Nothing\> coppice, that's bitter almond. the almonds we eat are sweet almonds which apparently smell different.
47:39 <rust_collector> you can mix in some herring in your marzipan, for some more taste. or caviar, if you prefer that
47:39 <Nothing\> dammit
47:40 <T3sl4> yeah but what does cyanide taste like?
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47:44 <Nothing\> coppice, that's bitter almond. the almonds we eat are sweet almonds which apparently smell different.
47:44 <T3sl4> yeah but what does cyanide taste like?
47:47 <electrohead> T3sl4: like almonds
47:49 <electrohead> lol
48:17 <Nothing\> and the only reason bitter almond smells like cyanide is because it contains cyanide
48:19 <rust_collector> it is a bit like nuts
48:29 <coppice> Nothing\: have sniffed cyanide? it smells like almonds taste
48:37 <Nothing\> i forget the name, but it's the same stuff in stone fruits that has cyanide.
48:51 <Nothing\> can't say that i have
49:00 <rust_collector> apples?
49:01 <Nothing\> i'm just relaying what nilered said
49:04 <rust_collector> YAAY!
49:09 <Nothing\> rust_collector, and apples, yes
49:29 <T3sl4> rust_collector: that's ethanaldehyde
49:32 <Nothing\> apples, cherries, plums, probably apricots, peaches
49:46 <coppice> if your marzipan lacks flavour it must be some cheap assed stuff that's all sugar and no nuts
50:11 <Nothing\> coppice, it has flavor, just not much
50:24 <coppice> speaking of marzipan, I haven't bought any stollen this year. I must fix that
50:33 <T3sl4> but yeah, the cyanoglucoside or whatever is the main reason stone fruit seeds are usually toxic
50:37 <Nothing\> compared to western snack foods
50:54 <Nothing\> T3sl4, yeah i'm trying to remember the name and it's bugging me that i can't
50:57 <rust_collector> stollen?
51:17 <coppice> I am prepared to pay for it
51:46 <Nothing\> what the hell
52:02 * T3sl4 steals Nothing\'s stollen
52:03 <Nothing\> there's this stuff called apple seed oil that's made by pressing apple seeds that's used in some capacity in cosmetics
52:15 <Nothing\> that's all the wiki article on apple seed oil really says but still
52:26 <Nothing\> that seems all sorts of wrong
52:34 <Nothing\> like using benzene as aftershave
53:06 <T3sl4> meh, the toxic part is water soluble
53:51 <Nothing\> huh
54:01 <Nothing\> there's a cultivar of apple called crimson king
54:39 <Nothing\> AMYGDALIN!
54:46 <Nothing\> that's the name of the stuff
55:48 <Nothing\> T3sl4, so one could conceivably commit suicide by grinding up say, a cup of apple seeds, soaking them in water, straining and then consuming the water
56:05 <Nothing\> suicide by apple seed tea. that'd be a new one.
56:07 <T3sl4> probably
56:18 <T3sl4> may need more than a few apples worth
56:34 <Nothing\> well, hence using 1 cup of seeds
56:48 <rust_collector> I think you need several kg
56:49 <Nothing\> i'm sure a cup is overkill but i guess that's the point here
56:58 <Nothing\> nah not that much
57:24 <Nothing\> 1 gram of finely crushed or chewed apple seeds contain 0.06–0.24 mg of cyanide.
57:35 <Nothing\> so now we just have to figure out what a lethal dose is
57:54 <Nothing\> which off the top of my head, is a few hundred mg. so let's say half a gram
57:55 <T3sl4> three many.
58:07 <rust_collector> whatever. the taste of a spoon of apple seeds, well chewed, would probably make me kill myself
58:13 <Nothing\> and 0.06-0.24 is a pretty wide margin
58:55 <Nothing\> but i guess we'll go with 0.15mg per gram
59:32 <Nothing\> so that's only like 3 or 4 grams of seeds you'd need
00:00 <Nothing\> even on the low end with 0.06mg per gram, it'd only take 100g of seeds
00:42 <T3sl4> hm, that's gotta be about a cup
00:45 <T3sl4> good guess
00:55 <rust_collector> heh. how many apples does that take?
01:22 <Nothing\> says here the ld50 of cyanide is 1-3mg/kg but it doesn't say in what animal
01:40 <Nothing\> or about 50 to 150mg
02:21 <Nothing\> well, google says there are 0.7g of seeds in a standard apple
02:43 <Nothing\> but the size of apples varies quite a bit. but that seems as good a figure as any to go with
05:29 <Nothing\> so, 2.5g of seeds gives you 150mg at 0.06mg of cyanide per gram of seeds
05:47 <Nothing\> er wait
05:56 <Nothing\> i think i missed a decimal place there
06:06 <Nothing\> 25g of seeds
06:51 <Nothing\> which at 0.7g of seeds per apple would require 36 apples to acquire
07:49 <Nothing\> so even on the low end of things, it seems it's possible to acquire a lethal dose of cyanide from a reasonable amount of apples
08:25 <rust_collector> hmm, so, how many bananas do you have to eat, to kill yourself?
08:59 <Nothing\> quite a lot more
09:29 <Nothing\> but that's been made easier for us since there's a unit of radiation dose equivalent to the dose you would receive from one banana
09:39 <Nothing\> so that bit's already been done for us
10:42 <rust_collector> well, maybe it is not the radiation that would kill you
13:13 <Nothing\> you'd probably get hyperkalemia (hyper meaning high, kal from kallium, which is latin for potassium, and emia, meaning presence in blood. High potassium presence in blood) before you died of any effects of radiation
13:59 <rust_collector> i wonder if you would just explode, because you ate 35 kg of bananas
14:14 <Nothing\> you'd vomit profusely
14:33 <Nothing\> it's not quite the same, but just look up videos of people drinking sprite while eating bananas
14:49 <rust_collector> eh?
14:57 <Nothing\> for some reason, the combination always makes people on YouTube throw up
17:25 <rust_collector> .....people.....
17:27 <rust_collector> arrrgh
27:02 <T3sl4> what a bunch of bastards
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49:27 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasabi_receptor_toxin
50:18 <Nothing\> i've never heard of TRPA1 as being called the "wasabi receptor"
52:20 <Nothing\> speaking of which, i was comparing the gene that encodes for TRPA1 in humans compared to the gene in mice and the gene in mice is smaller. I would have expected all genes are the same size given the complexity of proteins.
54:32 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ again
54:35 <Ampera> you're really huggable
54:48 <Nothing\> :D
54:57 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
55:00 <Lord_of_nothing> hi
55:31 <Lord_of_nothing> why does veryone here talk about suicide?
56:02 <Ampera> who is everyone
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00:33 <electrohead> talking about IRC in general?
26:04 <steve30> suicide seems to be a common subject amongst IRC users
26:58 <Nothing\> i just got a great idea
27:45 <steve30> once upon a time i talked about suicide quite a lot on IRC
27:57 <Nothing\> every time there's a new president elected, we have an awards show about all of the spoofs of the president done through the time he reigned
28:28 <Nothing\> stuff like funniest sketch, most convincing make-up, worst impression, best impression, etc
29:04 <Nothing\> as a sort of send off since after that, there will probably never be another spoof of him made again
29:17 <Nothing\> then again, people are still spoofing reagan for some reason
29:32 <steve30> i remember something like that for george bush
29:41 <Nothing\> really?
29:58 <Nothing\> dubya? or hw?
30:59 <Nothing\> lol man, and we thought dubya was the worst president there could possibly be
31:16 <Nothing\> the scary thing is, we could well be saying the same thing about trump in 4-8 years
32:02 <Nothing\> i mean, he's set so many unwritten precedents for what the public will accept if you're the president in terms of his behavior
32:17 <Nothing\> and it seems there was no line he couldn't cross without getting away with it
33:13 <Nothing\> right up to borderline treasonous activities. I'm sure his family's committed treason in some way, probably by skirting UN sanctions or something
34:03 <Nothing\> getting into business deals with people from countries with which its illegal to have any business dealings. That sorta thing.
34:08 * steve30 ponders going out on the bike
34:27 <Nothing\> my ass still hurts from riding my exercise bike. and that was 4 days ago
34:46 <Nothing\> i have no padding on my ass so it's just like sitting on bones
35:12 <steve30> My bike has a leather saddle
35:27 <Nothing\> like, for a horse?
35:43 <steve30> nope, definitely for a bike
36:17 <Nothing\> i just picture one of those old time bikes before pedals were invented where you just sat on it and sorta trotted along with your feet on the ground
36:32 * electrohead staples pillows on Nothing\'s ass
36:47 <Nothing\> hey you know electrohead
36:56 <Nothing\> seriously, ass implants might not be a bad idea
37:01 <electrohead> lol
37:08 <electrohead> that sounds like a horrible idea
37:09 <Nothing\> especially if there's a medical necessity for it, i can get it covered by insurance
37:10 <electrohead> :P
37:28 <Nothing\> like if it's causing me lower back and ass bone pain
37:57 <Nothing\> electrohead, lol if you've seen how flat my ass is you wouldn't be saying that
38:15 <Nothing\> i dunno what exercises give you a more muscular ass
38:18 <Nothing\> squats?
38:30 <Nothing\> squats make me uncomfortable about hernias
39:01 <Nothing\> or maybe some variety of leg lifting exercise while lying flat on my back
40:01 <Nothing\> there's a great one for your abs where you just lie on your back, keep your legs straight and lift them up a few inches and hold it while keeping them straight
40:25 <Nothing\> it's a lot harder than it seems at first
40:49 <Nothing\> i really do need more ass and core strength
41:18 <Nothing\> i get back pain if i'm on my feet for more than an hour cuz i'm so used to sitting all the time
41:34 <Nothing\> not even an hour
42:21 <Nothing\> lol
42:24 <Nothing\> https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/dutch-police-bust-marijuana-grow-house-snow-melts-article-1.2110709
42:40 <Nothing\> cops found a grow op cuz the heat from it melted the snow on the roof
42:51 <Nothing\> where every other unit around it still has snow on the roof
43:10 <Nothing\> makes me wonder how useful FLIR would be for finding illegal grow ops
43:33 <Nothing\> or if that would even be enough probable cause for a search
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27:38 <electrohead> o/
27:41 <electrohead> home ~
40:16 * T3sl4 waves a beer at electrohead
44:49 <electrohead> I'm on my second to last guiness :p
51:29 <T3sl4> \o/
02:37 <electrohead> <o>
02:53 <electrohead> what's your beer of choice?
03:33 <T3sl4> i have a Dragon's Milk Solera this evening
12:58 <electrohead> I've heard of that .. just now
13:00 <electrohead> :P
13:26 <electrohead> oh.. woah
13:32 <electrohead> ok, now that sounds fucking good
13:39 <electrohead> I wonder if we can even get that at the store
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24:57 <Halcyon> I have a sore neck :(
13:03 <T3sl4> stop beating it
28:04 <Halcyon> :P
28:09 <Halcyon> I said neck, not shaft
49:36 <hsn> Earthed https://photos.app.goo.gl/J416oSTsHEWpDhHb9
49:37 <hsn> Lol
54:13 <Halcyon> What the hell?
54:49 <Halcyon> It looks very sandy there
58:05 <Halcyon> Heh, all of Sydney and surrounding areas has a storm warning. Did they just use the "fill" function in Paint because they have no idea where the storm is going to be? http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN21035.shtml
58:13 <Halcyon> Never seen it like that before
36:24 <K> hello snails
39:22 <Halcyon> Hey K
23:16 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
26:11 <Ysjoelfir> hsn, you there?
34:12 <hsn> Ui
34:18 <hsn> Ysjoelfir:
34:21 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
34:28 <hsn> Tell me
35:14 <rust_collector> mournings!
35:34 <hsn> Morn rust
38:49 <rust_collector> yes yes insert positive words here" "
43:49 <K> cock
44:40 <Ysjoelfir> Diarrhea!
45:57 <K> not much substance, but, hey, it is there, either you want it or not!
56:39 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
16:36 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1yv1IRMQ7I
16:43 <Ysjoelfir> Lada V12 :D
18:14 <K> runs on 12V lead-acid?
18:32 <K> oh deary me
18:40 <Ysjoelfir> XD
19:26 * Ysjoelfir expects rusty to tell me that this isn't a lada
19:42 * Ysjoelfir agrees, its a Wolga, but it uses a "Lada V12" Motor :P
25:43 * rust_collector is busy snacking on red wine and something sausage
26:36 <Ysjoelfir> :P
39:19 <rust_collector> I wonder what those newer volgas are like. I have only been in an older one
40:33 <K> more stealthy
42:27 <rust_collector> We did put a shitty old gm 6.2 diesel in an old volga. it was not bad.
07:20 <hsn> https://photos.app.goo.gl/U28K4ry8zy3LaKoS9
07:49 <K> haha
07:55 <K> if it works, it is not stupid.
08:21 <hsn> K, i work
08:26 <hsn> But im stupid
08:40 <rust_collector> me too, except I am on vacation
08:54 <hsn> Well thats dumb
08:55 <hsn> Lol
10:38 <K> hsn, exceptions confirm the existance of rules
12:17 <hsn> Nice
12:34 <hsn> Im exceptional
12:58 <K> very special!
16:59 <rust_collector> specteptional!
17:44 <Ampera> you're all special
20:07 <rust_collector> spectempular
21:50 <rust_collector> https://imgur.com/a/XDHqDPM
26:25 <hsn> rust_collector, hahahah how do u save this
27:37 <rust_collector> I do not have much stuff, so I have plenty of space for important things like that
31:42 <Ampera> holy shit
31:45 <Ampera> I have no meetings today
31:59 <Ampera> after six days of back to back to back to back to back to back all day meetings
32:10 <rust_collector> you can nag, and set up some meeting?
32:25 * Ampera ets rust_collector 
32:35 <rust_collector> set up a meeting, so you can figure out when you will have a meeting
33:28 <Ampera> big fat snowstorm coming in tomorrow
33:50 <Ampera> accumulation predictions of anywhere from 0 to 32 inches of snow for the northeast
34:04 <rust_collector> that is a good start
35:16 <rust_collector> go outside and make a huge pile, so you can dig a hole in it, and grill hotdogs or something
36:13 * Ampera grills rust_collector's hotdog.
36:31 <rust_collector> you are making me hot
36:47 <Ampera> can't make what already is, baby
36:55 <rust_collector> rawr!
37:07 <Ampera> XD
42:10 <K> cease.
43:39 <rust_collector> cheese!
44:54 <hsn> kase
04:47 * Ysjoelfir offers hsn a "ä"
05:11 <hsn> i dont have double "a" keyboard
05:26 <Ysjoelfir> thats why I generously gift you the letter :D
05:30 <rust_collector> it is not a double a
05:59 <rust_collector> but I guess you don't have an ae either
06:44 <hsn> kaese ?
06:51 <Ysjoelfir> you mean a æ?
07:08 <K> ā
07:19 <rust_collector> æ!
07:23 <Ysjoelfir> but kaese would be good for germans, as you can substitute ä with ae, ü with ue and ö with oe^^
07:25 <K> no ū!
07:33 <Ysjoelfir> ß!
07:43 <K> š!
07:54 <K> even looks like a snek
07:55 <Ysjoelfir> ϑ!
08:16 <rust_collector> ? !
08:22 <K> now you are just making stuff up :|
08:38 <Ysjoelfir> nah. we love theta. and questionmarks
08:45 <Ysjoelfir> also: Ω
08:54 <hsn> eevblog convert a to a
08:54 <Ysjoelfir> ∆ is also nice
09:01 <hsn> eevblog convert ae to a
09:05 <hsn> eevblog fuck you
09:05 <EEVBlog> If you keep saying that, I'm gonna hold you upside down and shake you until all the electrons fall out, hsn!
09:13 <hsn> eevblog about
09:13 <EEVBlog> EEVBot, programmed by Ampera. Version 2.21-BETA
09:16 <hsn> eevblog help
09:30 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if it could kick me as an +
09:32 <Ysjoelfir> +o
09:33 <hsn> eevblog convert
09:37 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog kill yourself
09:37 Kick: Ysjoelfir was kicked by EEVBlog (no u.)
09:38 <hsn> eevblog convert 1 ae to a
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09:39 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
09:43 <Ysjoelfir> yep, it obviously can :D
09:48 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ysjoelfir
10:04 <hsn> eevblog kick ur ass
10:19 <hsn> eevblog go and fucking kill youR self
10:20 <EEVBlog> If you keep saying that, I'm gonna hold you upside down and shake you until all the electrons fall out, hsn!
10:37 <hsn> hah its afraid to kick me if im more aggressive
10:46 <hsn> cowered bot
12:11 <rust_collector> here is Ysjoelfirs plan for next years vacation: https://youtu.be/zf0MooqDWhE?t=1170
12:43 <Ysjoelfir> THAT would be so cool
13:57 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to have a lanz. or an ursus. especially if dialed in to be idling VERY slow
16:58 <rust_collector> something tells me you would like a gypsy wagon like that, with "anything" to pull it with
17:30 <Ysjoelfir> that would also be nice, yes :P
19:21 <hsn> that vehicle is shooting
19:30 <rust_collector> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DlHghwT6hs
19:32 <hsn> is it legal sound noise ?
20:06 <rust_collector> it is a tractor... there are no laws
22:57 <rust_collector> those hanomag tractors look much more like road tractors, than farm things
23:24 <Ysjoelfir> indeed. they look pretty awesome and so nice and shiny
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34:56 <TheDude> g'fsx
34:59 <TheDude> dang
35:01 <TheDude> g'day*
35:15 <Ysjoelfir> gfsx to you too!
35:36 <TheDude> :D
35:52 <TheDude> I just spent the last 2 hours in the dentist's chair
35:57 <Ysjoelfir> ew!
36:08 <TheDude> my jaw is feeling a bit abused
36:14 <Ysjoelfir> wanna do it again for me? I give you my bad tooth and you let it fix?
36:24 <TheDude> fuck no
36:43 <TheDude> as nice as the dentist was, I'd prefer not to repeat this any time soon
37:16 <Ysjoelfir> did he start the work with an "...oh."?
39:25 <Ysjoelfir> I still like that the argentinian guys called their lanz' "Pampa" :D
40:02 <TheDude> it was a she
43:50 <Ampera> hullo TheDude
43:57 <TheDude> hello :)
43:57 <EEVBlog> Hello there, TheDude!
44:33 <Ampera> having an unfortunate issue at night, I'm sleeping fine, but waking up is becoming a problem
44:57 <Ampera> I think I'll be able to fix it tonight
45:10 <TheDude> huh?
45:27 <Ampera> have been sleeping too long, and because the laws of reality are stupid, that makes me more tired if I just hadn't slept at all
45:44 <TheDude> yeah, I'm familiar with that shit
46:03 <TheDude> I actually feel best if I get to sleep like 8.5-9 hours
46:05 <Ampera> since I'm coming off my meds my hormones are probably gonna be fucky wucky for a few days or so
46:11 <TheDude> and then get woken by the alarm or something
46:24 <Ampera> If I'm left to my own devices I'll sleep up to 14 hours
46:27 <TheDude> what kind of meds are we talking about?
46:36 <Ampera> hormones and T blockers
46:53 <TheDude> okay
46:54 <Ampera> I've decided to stop taking them
47:32 <TheDude> yeah, I can see how that could screw with your natural hormone balance
47:33 <Ysjoelfir> huh? why?
47:57 <Ampera> I've decided that there is nothing for me in transitioning. It's a false hope that part of me has been latching onto for ages
48:18 <Ampera> I've had about two and a half months of intense thought, as there's now a deadline requiring me to either make an appointment or not
48:43 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... ok.
48:47 <Ampera> and while my issue will never go away, I know that transitioning is not a cure for me. We do not possess the technology to solve my disorder
49:17 <Ampera> So instead of transitioning, I've decided to work on coping mechanisms, as opposed to my previous theory of requiring absolute abstention
49:30 <Ampera> it's, uh, a mindset that only makes the most sense to me
49:52 <Ampera> while the problem isn't over, the conflict is
50:07 <Ampera> which may end up being just as good, only time can say
50:33 <Ysjoelfir> well, obviously :P But what feels right for you is the right thing, no matter if others can understand it or not. :)
50:38 <Ampera> a lot of really exciting things have been happening in my life, and my issue has been keeping me from experiencing them properly, so I really just want to take my life back
50:57 <Ampera> nothing ever feels right, it all feels wrong, it's just different kinds of wrong
52:42 <Ysjoelfir> As long as it gets better that is probably a necessary phase to endure I think?
53:28 <Ampera> As the problem is largely sexual in nature, and thus affected by my own sexual drive, as that tapers off as I grow older, it probably will
53:47 <Ampera> my life will also hopefully get more interesting, having been stuck in this same room for the past 10 years or so
53:55 <rust_collector> I would not be so sure. Ysjoelfir is pretty old
54:09 <Ampera> yes, but you cannot tame a blazing inferno like Ysjoelfir
54:12 <Ampera> he's an exception to the rule
54:17 <Ysjoelfir> \o/
54:31 <Ampera> Ultimately, it may end up being about focusing on what I've gained rather than what I cannot gain.
54:43 <Ampera> There are significant parts of life I will miss out on, but I'll be more secure in what I can experience
54:45 <rust_collector> that sounds like a plan
54:59 <Ampera> I am, as they say, a man with a plan.
57:21 <Ampera> It's about a month and four days until I'm going to start learning how to drive
57:35 <Ampera> when I get my car registered, insured, and running, I'll start looking for a house to buy
59:23 <Ysjoelfir> Don't forget to learn motorcycling!
59:32 <Ysjoelfir> thats nearly as important as driving cars
59:58 <Ampera> Oh, you mean become a temporary citizen?
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