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00:21 * Halcyon snorts at Steve like a horse
00:36 * Ysjoelfir hands Halcyon a sugar free sugar cube
03:38 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vidcZ3GIZo
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10:08 <steve30> hehe, i like that episode with the horse
13:01 * steve30 passes Halcyon a glass of Tasty Juice
13:52 <Halcyon> It's so good
21:00 <steve30> A kind gent bought me a cappccino yesterday
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54:40 <electrohead> o/
11:55 <steve30> hi
12:59 <Kuschelpony> hello
16:26 <steve30> i'm looking forward to going to bed
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58:01 <Lord_of_nothing> well the austrian post sucks a lot
59:12 <Lord_of_nothing> 【8】Hand over to airline
59:12 <Lord_of_nothing> 2020-11-18 05:25:16
59:13 <Lord_of_nothing> 【8】Hand over to airline
59:13 <Lord_of_nothing> 2020-11-18 05:25:16
59:20 <Lord_of_nothing> well...
59:32 <Lord_of_nothing> I would not want fly with that airline...
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04:49 <TheDude> Lord_of_nothing, I see that shit happening a lot lately
04:58 <TheDude> the third time is sometimes the charm
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17:52 <rust_collector> bompi bomp
18:19 * Ampera throws a cantaloupe at rust_collector 
18:40 <rust_collector> oh crap
18:53 <Ampera> how are you doing rust_collector
19:20 <rust_collector> well, much better than I should. just got home
19:24 <Ysjoelfir> mornings rusty
19:39 <rust_collector> moin moin
19:48 <Ampera> I just put together my package to germany
20:26 <Ysjoelfir> nice Ampera, what do I get?
20:32 <Ampera> nothing
20:37 <Ysjoelfir> :(
20:45 <Ampera> no seriously, I've packaged up Nothing\ and he's coming over to say hi
20:54 <Ysjoelfir> ARGH!
21:01 <Ysjoelfir> he won't stop after he said hi
21:08 <Ampera> hah
21:32 <Ampera> no this package is going to my family in Essen (and one family member in Mönchengladbach
23:04 <Ysjoelfir> nice, maybe I can snag it before it arrives. I'll be near essen at christmas
24:08 <Ampera> It should be there too, I bought DHL Express shipping
38:17 <rust_collector> which one would ship it? hillblom or lynn?
47:59 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, I have a pic for you
48:25 <Ysjoelfir> Dick pics only after 10 please
49:37 <rust_collector> well, you can wait until 10, if you want
54:56 <rust_collector> ok, I sent it as a really personal message
58:54 <rust_collector> i guess I should have taken some pics on the way, but I only had a couple hours of daylight, and I wanted to use it to get over the mountain, lol
59:40 <rust_collector> there are areas I think you might enjoy seeing, even if it not stuffed full of trees and mosquitos
02:03 <Ysjoelfir> lol, is that realy a... conglomeration of houses, named "cheesehouse-cheesehouse"? :D
02:22 <rust_collector> i think it is only one. I am not sure
03:24 <Ysjoelfir> I assume very much that I would like it there, the pic alone looks very nice. nice weather, cure houses, cheese... what would you want more?
04:39 <rust_collector> well, skewer grilled virgins and loud metal.
04:54 <rust_collector> I can come up with several things I would want
05:49 <Ysjoelfir> well, true. but as a place for being it seems nice
08:51 <rust_collector> meh.
09:16 <rust_collector> but yes, I think you should try to get a bit up north the next time
10:59 <rust_collector> interesting scenery, if you have time to go look at it
12:14 <Ysjoelfir> I would definitely love to. When the motorcycle runs my uncle and I would like to make a long trip to the north.
12:24 <rust_collector> cool
13:24 <rust_collector> hmm, I do have a little mini video of the main road to the north. and I say main, because the real main road up there is not in this country, lol
14:37 <rust_collector> uhm, that is... eeeh. yes, it is taken from just north of the arctic circle centre (which is closed) (and is not on the arctic circle)
15:26 <rust_collector> the original title was boring 4, but that was too boring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jah6H5VVds8
15:45 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^ so you drive through sweden to go north? :P because it has less maut? or because the road is shorter or better?
16:00 <rust_collector> it is not shorter, but it is much quicker
16:57 <Ysjoelfir> that looks magnificent. :O
19:24 <rust_collector> it is called saltfjellet. it is pretty nice in summer.
19:45 <rust_collector> well, it looks better in winter, but you never know if you can get across or not
21:49 <Ysjoelfir> wikipedia suggests this picture :D https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saltfjellet#/media/File:CargoNet_Di_12_Euro_4000_Lønsdal_-_Bolna.jpg
22:41 <rust_collector> yes, it could be a better idea to get on a train, lol
25:06 <Ysjoelfir> I remember that one website where there was some crazy guy going to the nordkap in late winter by motorcycle.
27:14 <rust_collector> well, if the weather is ok, that should not be an issue.
29:15 <Ysjoelfir> it was very entertaining to read
42:23 <rust_collector> how many evil is your uncle rated as anyway?
42:59 <Ysjoelfir> At least seven of a scale from one to potato. But he can be tamed easily.
43:23 <rust_collector> hmmmhmmmhmmmmm hmm hmm
46:29 <Ysjoelfir> hah, found the website. wasn't.... well, kind of a guy. maybe you want to enjoy the pictures. https://www.svendura.de/no2007.php
51:01 <rust_collector> that is a good point, using a bike should be somewhat cheap
53:34 <Ysjoelfir> indeed
56:52 <rust_collector> figure out a way to pack a little party tent sort of thing. something aluminium and tarp like, that you can ploink together quickly
06:38 <Ysjoelfir> and then I come over to your place, put a little wheelbarrow behint the bike and you joing us?
07:01 <rust_collector> wheelbarrow...
08:00 <Ysjoelfir> a comfy one. with a nice big pillow for you to sit on
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14:33 <rust_collector> I did find a camping sort of place called "bimbo"
15:46 <Ysjoelfir> nice :P
22:39 <rust_collector> you know, those ski box things, people have on the roof?
23:10 <rust_collector> do you think a short deep version of that, with wheels would be ok as a little bike trailer?
23:50 <rust_collector> I dunno how much space you would need, you can tie a lot of crap to a bike, I guess
24:33 <Ysjoelfir> Bike trailer look basically like that IIRC, so... sure, why not? would definitely be a nice and cheap method to build such a thing :D Though I think to remember something that bike trailers are forbidden in germany in generall for some years. have to look that up though
27:01 <rust_collector> yes, I don't know. I know guy here got his ural rated to pull 1500kg, lol
27:20 <rust_collector> but... is it illegal if it is not german?
29:02 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... interesting oO 1.5 tons behing a ural?
29:17 <Ysjoelfir> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorradanhänger#/media/Datei:Motorcycle_caravan_trailer.jpg how cool is that?
29:34 <rust_collector> yeh, that is not going to happen, but it was in theory legal, lol
32:59 <Ysjoelfir> ah, I found the reason why thats not a thing in germany
33:17 <Ysjoelfir> basically, if you put a trailer behind a motorcycle you are not allowed to go faster than 60.
34:29 <Ysjoelfir> the reason the german Bundestag said in a statement was: "We don't think that it is neccessary to go faster or particularely dangerous to drive a motorcycle with 60 km/h on a motorcycle"
34:48 <rust_collector> riight
34:58 <rust_collector> that could be boring
35:02 <Ysjoelfir> tell that any person who was ever bullied by a truck driver who couldn't get past you driving to slow on the right lane
35:24 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I think I had a stroke trying to understand that sentence
35:37 <Ampera> what did the Bundestag say?
36:29 <rust_collector> they think it is safe to ride a bike on a bike, as long as the speed of each does not exceed 60km/h?
36:47 <Ampera> sounds about right
37:04 <Ysjoelfir> two things. 1) it is - in their eyes - not neccessary to go faster than 60 km/h on german Autobahnen. 2) it is not dangerous for a small motorcycle to force trucks to slow down to 60 when they approach you with 100
37:25 <Ampera> what, 60km/h in general?
37:34 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
37:43 <Ampera> I can walk faster than that
38:03 <Ampera> and people get pissed when we set our speed limits to 60mph
38:23 <rust_collector> it makes sense, bikes only have 2 wheels
38:30 <Ampera> no, he said in general
38:31 <Ampera> so cars
38:32 <Ampera> trucks
38:33 <Ampera> anything
38:47 <Ampera> eevblog convert 40km to mi
38:48 <EEVBlog> The result is: 24.855 mi
38:55 <Ampera> okay there's got to be a misunderstanding there
39:06 <Ampera> wait
39:11 <Ampera> eevblog convert 60km to mi
39:11 <EEVBlog> The result is: 37.282 mi
39:17 <Ysjoelfir> they force bikes with a trailer to not go faster than 60.
39:19 <Ampera> there was a misunderstanding there
39:36 <Ampera> idk about you, but if you went that slow on one of our highways you'd fucking die
39:59 <rust_collector> yep
40:09 <Ysjoelfir> thats exactly my point.
40:25 <Ampera> in fairness, if you drove a bike on one of our highways you'd die too
40:39 <Ampera> or a car really
40:55 <Ampera> it's ultimately the answer to the question, why are our vehicles so big
43:01 <rust_collector> well, I am going to bed. work starts sort of early tomorrow
43:52 <rust_collector> have fun, or cheese
43:59 <Ampera> I'm gonna try to whack my brain at geodesic coordinate set interpolation
44:13 <Ampera> basically the same math I already did, but now in real time
44:13 <Ysjoelfir> fun = cheese
44:17 <Ysjoelfir> enjoy rusty
45:10 <Ampera> I have a path on a map defined by a variety of points, and I need to interpolate sub-points to represent the location of a vehicle at a given time/speed
45:46 <Ampera> it's for a GPS emulator, I did it already with a precalculate method (precalculate all points needed before emulating) but I'm rewriting it into a library with a realtime point calculation method
48:04 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a fun task? :)
48:42 <Ampera> it's like an apple, it's annoying to take the first bite, but then you can work off it from there
48:51 <Ampera> the issue is there are a lot of first bites :P
57:33 <Ysjoelfir> xD
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52:08 <Halcyon> Morning all
55:10 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
55:20 <Halcyon> YAY
55:26 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
55:32 <Halcyon> Not too bad. You?
56:20 <Ampera> alright, wrapped some presents today
56:31 <Ampera> I have some for my dad, and I also wrapped some for my relatives in Germany
56:44 <Ampera> just bought the shipping, was 112USD for a 5kg 40x40x30cm package
57:06 <Halcyon> Gees
57:17 <Ampera> cheapest rate, but it's DHL Express
59:04 <T3sl4> hey
59:11 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4
59:14 <Ampera> there's also a shit ton of different things I need to put on the package and interchange with the driver
00:07 <Ampera> there's the shipping label, but there's also a waybill I need to give to the driver, they want me to have him sign for proof of pickup, and I need to "print three copies" of the package manifest for customs, and stick it in either an envelope or one of those little pouches they have on packages
00:57 * T3sl4 wet-willies Ampera
01:18 <Ampera> Some_Person, actually, since you've used their service, how have you attached the customs document to the package, and did you make the person picking it up sign that peice of paper they had?
05:04 <Some_Person> Ampera: I'm not surprised you're asking about this because it's a bit confusing. There are 2 labels. One goes on the package (I use packing tape) and the other gets handed to the driver. Then you need to print the packing list twice and sign both copies. One goes on the package (again, I use packing tape) and the other gets handed to the driver. And yes, I have gotten the driver to sign the last sheet and hand it back to
05:04 <Some_Person> I'm pretty sure that doesn't really do anything.
05:30 <Ampera> alright, that makes more sense
05:55 <Ampera> I'd have normally used packing tape, but was wondering if they'd for some reason need it freeform
06:02 <Ampera> I'll put one inside the package just in case
06:30 <Ampera> only other minor question, Some_Person, did you cut out the waybill you hand to the driver or did you just give him the whole printer sheet
06:38 <Some_Person> I just gave him the whole sheet
06:45 <Ampera> alright, that works
06:50 <Ampera> thanks Some_Person
07:21 <Some_Person> You should end up with 2 things on the package, 2 things to hand the driver, and 1 for the driver to sign and return to you (again, I'm not sure this really matters)
07:39 <Ampera> that's right by my count
08:00 <Ampera> shipping label and manifest on the package, manifest and waybill to the driver, and acceptance form for the driver to sign
08:13 <Some_Person> and the air waybill number is the tracking number
08:21 <Ampera> I already checked out the tracking number
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10:31 * Ampera kisses Nothing\ 
15:35 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af-efvRH7IU
23:51 * electrohead bops in
24:25 <Halcyon> You're a weirdo Ampera
24:37 * Ampera kisses electrohead 
24:52 * electrohead hugs instead
24:52 * Ampera wallops Halcyon right in the kisser
25:00 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
25:15 <electrohead> I'm alright, you?
25:28 <Ampera> alright, laying in bed, about to do a sleep in a bit or so
25:42 <Halcyon> I have a craving for ramen
25:48 <Halcyon> In soup
26:04 * Ampera pours soup down Halcyon's pants
26:19 <Halcyon> That's not where soup goes
26:30 <Ampera> you australians and your upside down soup
26:38 * Ampera pours soup up Halcyon's top pants
27:58 <Halcyon> Hahaha
28:11 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
28:17 <Halcyon> I'm considering whether to add a ZIL drive to my NAS or not.
28:21 <Halcyon> YAY!
30:49 <Ampera> a ZIL drive, Halcyon?
31:04 <Ampera> do you mean Zip?
31:23 <Halcyon> That would be rather slow
31:28 <Halcyon> ZFS Intent Log
31:47 <Halcyon> It caches writes before committing them to spinning rust
32:50 <Ampera> ah I just never heard it refered to as such
33:18 <Halcyon> *nod*
33:32 <Halcyon> I have a spare 250 GB NVMe drive
35:38 <Ampera> why so tiny
36:05 <Halcyon> It was going to be a boot drive in my Dell server but it doesn't support booting from it so meh
40:23 * electrohead throws SLOG at Ampera
40:35 * T3sl4 throws slaw at electrohead
40:48 <electrohead> :p
40:51 <electrohead> https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-12/uarl-asf121720.php
41:02 * Halcyon SLOGs electrohead 
41:02 <electrohead> so, came across this just before
41:13 * Ampera kisses both electrohead and Halcyon 
41:17 <Halcyon> YAY!
41:31 <Halcyon> I wonder if they have Bluetooth electrohead
41:43 <Halcyon> Or Cloud connected :P
41:49 <electrohead> well..
42:00 <Ampera> I'm entirely convinced bluetooth is the worst thing to happen to wireless digital communications
42:04 <Ampera> I hate it
42:34 <Halcyon> Yeh it's not great
42:42 <Ampera> I can't think of a single thing it does well
42:44 <Ampera> at all
43:00 <Halcyon> It doesn't do anything well, it does everything half-assed if that
43:18 <Ampera> the throughput is absolutely terrible, I don't care what people quote me, I've never gotten more than 10mbps generously. Audio is a complete and total fucking mess, and any HIDs require really complicated implementatinos to work
47:32 <electrohead> in the terms of a cloud connection - https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a34978872/artificial-intelligence-controls-u2-spy-plane-air-force-exclusive/ - we have this, not to mention everything else is automated
52:24 * Halcyon pasta's
53:23 * electrohead adds sausage
53:41 <Halcyon> Mmmm
58:57 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxIHadola3A
00:30 <Halcyon> O... K... ?
01:05 <electrohead> lol..
06:28 <T3sl4> if only arch were here to see this
20:53 <Some_Person> Ampera: Honestly, I'm kind of inclined to agree with you. Bluetooth seems like an overcomplicated mess of a protocol to me
25:04 <coppice> Some_Person: Bluetooth is like a junk box, people tossed every piece of crap into. Its not complicated. Its just a hotch potch
26:17 <Some_Person> It has weird limitations, weird incompatibilities, stacks that don't always work properly, and that's before we even get into the mess that is audio codecs
27:50 <coppice> the two big bodges are that BT and BTLE are essentially unrelated things operating on the same channels, and the codecs are a mess. it used to be extremely quicky, but most of that has been sorted out
28:22 <coppice> it was probably better when CSR completely dominated, as they only had to be compatible with themselves :)
30:59 <coppice> How do they sell an SLA printer for $159 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07RT7TW38
32:13 <Some_Person> The audio stuff is what bothers me the most. I want a wireless headset that works well for playing audio and using the mic at the same time and has very good active noise-cancelling. I'm not sure such a product exists.
32:48 <coppice> it can't exist, unless 5.2 has done something interesting with the codecs
33:21 <coppice> The 5.0 stuff isn't out properly yet, and already there is a 5.2
33:28 <Ampera> steak is what I've chosen to eat tomorrow
33:47 <coppice> cow pie?
33:55 <Ampera> not a pie
34:04 <Ampera> as I have no kidney to make it complete
34:05 <Some_Person> I can't be the only one who regularly wants audio to sound good while being able to talk to someone at the same time
34:22 <coppice> so, you've given beef Wellington the boot?
34:35 <Some_Person> It's not a hypothetical scenario, it's something I do almost every day
34:43 <Ampera> coppice, I'm saving that for a rainy day
35:06 <Ampera> Some_Person, why do you want regular reasonable things
35:26 <Ampera> don't you know reality frowns upon the sensical?
35:41 <coppice> Some_Person: no you aren't alone. With the move from cellular to internet based calling, usually using the Opus codec, the need for Opus to and from the headset is really strong
37:29 <Some_Person> My one hope is that BTLE Audio takes off and becomes widely supported, since it supposedly addresses the bidirectional bullshit. But obviously nothing supporting that is on the market yet...
38:11 <Some_Person> I also don't know what the codec situation for that might be
38:38 <Some_Person> I'm hoping for something not proprietary and something the stack makers can't screw up easily
38:48 <Some_Person> like they've mostly done with SBC
42:30 <coppice> there seems to be a big gap between people claims 5.0 compatibility and actually having it properly implemented
46:25 <coppice> isn't the initial BTLE audio support a single codec solution - LC3?
51:32 <steve30> morning
55:21 * Ampera hugs steve30 with a coffee
55:47 <steve30> mmm
57:46 Quit: Nothing\ ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
09:29 * steve30 watches techmoans IoT Christmas tree
26:47 <Some_Person> coppice: I don't know. Haven't looked into it enough, but a single codec solution sounds like a very good thing to me
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29:32 * arch lights some thermite on top of T3sl4's workbench
30:14 <T3sl4> arch: Ampera: Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxIHadola3A
30:39 <T3sl4> i know they aren't prinnys but imagine if they were
32:18 <arch> T3sl4, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La-FSCfQEsk
32:57 <T3sl4> ah yes
34:24 <arch> first anime i ever saw, well, after Pokemon that is
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34:31 * Nothing\ smooches Ampera <3
34:37 <Nothing\> don't think i didn't see that
35:23 <Nothing\> So I guess we're going back into lockdown here on thursday
36:14 <arch> ppl gonna get their pitchforks and torches soon enough...
36:16 <Nothing\> all non-essential businesses shutdown, nobody allowed in parks, schools shut down for at least 28 days, no indoor gatherings allowed at all besides members of the same household
36:23 <Nothing\> so, no christmas and no new years
36:47 <Nothing\> arch, well here, we've basically been breaking the record for number of covid cases in a day every day for the last week or so
36:49 <T3sl4> good
37:03 <Nothing\> i was reading about the prison i was in
37:04 <T3sl4> alas, this is not a year for xmas
37:09 <Nothing\> apparently they have 56 cases in there
37:23 <Nothing\> and they're housing inmates with covid along with healthy inmates
37:28 <Nothing\> as in, making them fucking cellmates
37:35 <Nothing\> and keeping them on the same range (cell block)
38:05 <Nothing\> which is just as well, cuz the only way they isolate prisoners who have covid is solitary confinement
38:18 <Nothing\> and every new inmate has to spend 2 weeks in solitary for isolation
38:24 <Nothing\> including juveniles
38:56 <arch> solitary confinement is psychological warfare. it should only be reserved for the hardest criminals and murderers
38:59 <Nothing\> i can only imagine what 2 weeks of severe social isolation and sensory deprivation would do to a developing teen's brain
39:08 <Nothing\> yeah no shit
39:30 <Nothing\> i was reading about this thing they do in solitary and other prisons called white room torture or white torture
39:53 <Nothing\> they lock you in a room where absolutely everything is white, furniture, walls, lights, everything
40:12 <Nothing\> lights are kept at high intensity and oriented in a ring so no shadows are cast on anything
40:36 <Nothing\> even the food is white and bland, to prevent sensory stimulation. usually it's just plain white rice
41:09 <Nothing\> interactions with guards are prohibited and they wear special pads on their shoes so as not to make any noise when walking
41:19 <Nothing\> it's basically totaly sensory deprivation
41:54 <arch> torture is only against human rights if it's done by 3rd world countries, didnt ya know that?
42:02 <Nothing\> i read anecdotes about people who had nightmares about their time in white rooms for months after the fact
42:20 <Nothing\> arch: or if it causes physical trauma
42:40 <Nothing\> people don't seem to care/understand that psychological trauma is just as bad, if not worse
42:56 <Nothing\> i'd say worse since we don't undersand it and thus can't treat it properly
43:50 <Nothing\> apparently ghislaine maxwell's being tortured
44:14 <Nothing\> the guards are waking her up every 15 minutes to make sure she doesn't off herself like epstein did (allegedly)
44:16 <arch> the govt doesn't give a shit about the veterans who return and suffer from ptsd who keep killing themselves. what makes you think they care about ppl in prison?
44:29 <Nothing\> exactly
44:40 <T3sl4> epstein didn't melt his own steel beams
44:52 <Nothing\> lol T3sl4
45:23 <Nothing\> it's weird, apparently in new york there's a metropolitical correctional center, then theres' the metropolitan detention center
45:42 <Nothing\> i could never remember which one was the one epstein was in, but i think it was MCC
46:10 <Nothing\> but from the name of it, detention center sounds like a place that's better suited for holding inmates until trial
46:38 <Nothing\> either way, maxwell's trying to get a bail hearing before christmas, which is apparently her birthday
46:59 <Nothing\> but they're saying since she's a french citizen, and france doesn't extradite, she's an extreme flight risk
47:30 <Nothing\> even though her attorneys proposed having GPS tracking and armed guards posted outside of her house
47:42 <Nothing\> but i think the bitch should suffer the way her victims did
48:14 <Nothing\> i also think they need to throw the book at prince andrew
48:27 <Nothing\> incapable of sweating my ass
49:46 <Nothing\> "yah m8 that accusation was totally false cuz i was incapable of sweating at the time cuz i had an adrenaline overload in the falklands. But I can sweat now cuz I'm all better. So I have no proof of this claim. Btw those pictures of me with those underage hookers were totally doctored and not real."
49:56 <arch> sweaty butts are not good
50:25 <Nothing\> the shitty thing is, if he weren't royalty, he would be behind bars right now
51:40 <Nothing\> and one thing i didn't realize, apparently R Kelly is in prison
51:52 <Nothing\> he's being held in the same place as epstein and maxwell
52:19 <Nothing\> that's the only reason i found out, i was looking through famous inmates and found out he's in there for child porn or something like that
52:59 <Nothing\> oh, no it was worse than that
53:26 <Nothing\> soliciting a minor and a buncha sex offenses against minors. So given his history i don't think he's getting out any time soon.
59:32 <Nothing\> bah why is this place always dead when i come in here
59:41 <Nothing\> i think i'll play me some KSP
00:05 <Nothing\> they just released a new major update
07:30 <arch> i wish they'd put goddamn KSP multiplayer already
08:26 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
12:28 * arch hugs a dakimakura modeled after Ampera
12:55 <Ampera> arch, I don't need your mexican funny shit >:(
14:49 <arch> Ampera, got any recommendations for a PCIE SAS card?
15:05 <Ampera> a SAS card?
15:09 <Ampera> what sort of SAS card
15:12 <Ampera> HBA, RAID
15:30 <arch> i don't really care about hardware raid
15:33 <Ampera> there's also a fuck ton of different connectors
15:48 <Ampera> what do you need out of it
16:07 <arch> i got some drives from work that are gathering dust. i wanna put them to use. 3TB drives x 6
16:17 <arch> IBM/Seagate SAS drives
16:46 <Ampera> I've had luck with the few adaptec cards I've had in the past, but I've never personally used SAS, only parallel SCSI
16:51 <arch> but my motherboard only has SATA, obv. which mainstream motherboard comes with SAS these days tbh?
16:59 <arch> ooh
17:01 <Ampera> anything with an adaptec or LSILogic chip would probably be fine
17:09 <Ampera> server motherboards
17:50 <Ampera> it's the main way to connect any hard drive to a server really
18:18 <Ampera> but as for specific cards, just go and look on newegg until you find one within your price range and that looks nice. ebay can also be a good place to check if you can't find something good there
18:22 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
18:29 <Ampera> hi Nothing\ how are you doing
18:31 <Nothing\> you're lucky, i was just about to start playing KSP
18:36 <Nothing\> eh, stressed as fuck
18:46 <Ampera> stress is good
18:56 <Ampera> it makes you want to break things and hurt people
18:58 <Ampera> and that's always nice
19:32 <Nothing\> i constantly have one fucking appointment after another, probation, counseling, dentist, doctor, labwork, etc etc etc
19:54 <Ampera> sounds like my grandfather
20:05 <Nothing\> meanwhile i'm blocked up as hell and can't shit for the life of me cuz i'm scared to take any laxatives cuz knowing my luck they'd kick in right when i'm at one of my appointments
20:15 <Nothing\> so i haven't had a proper shit in like a month
20:16 <Halcyon> Charming :P
20:25 <Ampera> I've only had laxatives a few times in my life, they've never worked for me
20:27 <Nothing\> much less been able to clean myself out properly
20:32 <Ampera> but they were mild laxatives
20:37 <Halcyon> That's because you're full of shit Ampera
20:37 <Halcyon> :P
20:37 <Ampera> I've almost never been blocked up in my life
20:52 <Ampera> the best laxative I've ever really used has been eating a whole bag of apples
21:02 <Ampera> plenty of fiber, it's quite good for the shits
21:10 <Nothing\> we're going into a lockdown this week so i called my counselor and left a message saying i wasn't coming up for my appointment because of that
21:11 <Halcyon> Coffee does it for me first thing in the morning
21:14 * Ampera attack-kisses Halcyon 
21:19 <Nothing\> "oh that's fine we can do a virtual appointment"
21:19 <Halcyon> YAY!
21:45 <Nothing\> fuck that, i'm not installing some skype bullshit on my computer just so you can invade my safe space while i feel like shit, literally
22:00 <arch> why dont you use skpe in the bathroom?
22:14 <arch> that way you dont have to worry about having to take a shit in the middle of an appointment
22:21 <Nothing\> cuz it's just gonna weigh on my mind and keep me from pooping anyways
22:29 <arch> win-win
23:00 <Nothing\> i just told my mom, i'm not returning his call, i'm not doing the appointment, i'm doing any appointments except probation, end of story
23:12 <Halcyon> Probation?
23:20 <Nothing\> i'm so fucking sick of appointments and the fact that they're fucking up my bowels so bad
23:40 <Ampera> Halcyon, Nothing\ got locked up for being too cute
23:44 <Nothing\> aye probation. i'm on it till 2022
23:50 <Halcyon> OK
23:51 <Halcyon> I won't ask
23:55 <Nothing\> aww you're a sweetheart Ampera
23:56 <Halcyon> Don't want to know
23:56 <Ampera> you just did
24:03 <Nothing\> Halcyon, attempted genocide
24:19 <Nothing\> they let me out of jail early cuz of the covid
24:23 <Ampera> next time it should be more than just an attempt
24:24 <Halcyon> Very funny :P
24:40 <Nothing\> Halcyon, nah it was sexual assault and criminal harassment
24:43 <Halcyon> But yes, I feel as though there may be a conflict of interest here, so please don't tell me anything more
24:52 <Halcyon> Lalalalala
24:56 <Ampera> those are an amusing two lines
25:07 <Ampera> but what do you care Halcyon, you're literally on the other side of the world
25:22 <Nothing\> for slapping my brother's ex on the ass and a bunch of out of context text msgs she sent police accusing me of making constantly unwanted innuendos and/or sexual advances on her
25:22 <Halcyon> I won't go into any details but it still matters
26:05 <Halcyon> Bitches be craZy
26:07 <Ampera> Halcyon, don't worry, the mounties won't try to mount you
26:08 <Halcyon> z
26:20 <Nothing\> like we all got along well and had an adult sense of humor, so i'd send her a message saying something like "hey you wanna see a hot pussy?" then follow up with a picture of a cat in the desert or something, ya know
26:33 <Nothing\> but she'd only include the part where i asked if she wanted to see some hot pussy
26:38 <Nothing\> that sorta thing
26:42 <Halcyon> Riiiiight
26:49 <Halcyon> And you got locked up for THAT!?
26:53 <Nothing\> yup
26:58 <Halcyon> Hell, my collegues send me worse things.
27:01 <Nothing\> thank you harvey weinstein
27:08 <Ampera> Halcyon, it's Canada, it's a serious criminal offense to be impolite
27:13 <Ampera> they've locked people up for less
27:20 <Halcyon> Fuck that in the ass
27:24 <Nothing\> actually, polygamy is still illegal here
27:28 <Nothing\> i just found out the other day
27:32 <Halcyon> For reals?
27:36 <Nothing\> punishable by up to a 5 year prison term
27:52 <Nothing\> and it doesn't even have to involve legally binding relationships
28:01 <Nothing\> according to the language of the law
28:12 <Halcyon> I'd imagine it would never get enforced?
28:34 <Ampera> Halcyon, it's pretty light, polygamy is a capital offense here, federally
28:51 <Ampera> and thank god it is
29:06 <Ampera> the last thing we need is to have people stealing all the available people away for themselves
29:34 <Halcyon> Polygamy isn't illegal here, but bigamy is
29:45 <Halcyon> Why you would want to get married even to one person is beyond me
29:58 <Ampera> well that's because you're going to hell no matter what you do
30:07 <Halcyon> Joke's on you, hell isn't real :P
30:15 <Nothing\> here it is
30:16 <Ampera> joke's on you, it most certainly is
30:17 <Nothing\> https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-293.html
30:18 <Ampera> I'm in it
30:26 <Nothing\> the polygamy law
30:27 <Ampera> and it's central proprieter
30:30 <Ampera> *proprietor
31:03 <Ampera> *its
31:19 <Nothing\> basically it says anyone who engages in a conjugal union with multiple people is guilty of polygamy
31:21 <Halcyon> What the hell? Potato bake with golden syrup https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/caramelised-potato-bake-recipe/ubbkg5rm
31:26 <Ampera> it's all been foreseen, since I created the universe last thursday
31:45 <Ampera> what is golden syrup
32:05 <Halcyon> Basically sugar syrup that's been "cooked" to make it caramalise slightly
32:24 <Ampera> sounds good
32:42 <Halcyon> It looks like maple syrup but without all the delicious flavours. It's just sugar with a slightly... "burnt" taste?
32:52 * Ampera burns Halcyon 
33:07 <Ampera> I like sugar free pancake syrup the best
33:16 <Nothing\> i've become addicted to salted caramel ice cream lately
33:27 <Halcyon> You're such a hipster Nothing\
33:38 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Connection closed
33:42 <Halcyon> But yes, it is good
33:45 <Nothing\> it's sooooo good. It's like butterscotch or toffee or something
33:52 <Ampera> I've never had any of that
33:56 <Ampera> you people are weird
34:03 <Ampera> stop being weird or I will be even weirder in retalliation
34:07 <Nothing\> no ur
34:24 * Ampera sneezes at Nothing\ 
34:45 <Ampera> my wall is 71
34:48 <Halcyon> This is my favourite ice cream of all time: https://shop.maggiebeer.com.au/products/burnt-fig-honeycomb-caramel-ice-cream/
34:57 <Ampera> my other wall is 72
35:02 <Halcyon> It has little crunchy honeycomb bits in it as well
35:17 <Ampera> the best ice cream is dairy-free dole whip
35:32 <Halcyon> Cool whip
36:00 <Ampera> if I could I'd kick you for that one
36:11 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vWA_vIrqT4
36:18 <Ampera> my chair is 73
36:22 <Ampera> I am not clicking that link
37:31 <Ampera> my bed is 75
37:45 <Ampera> my table is 72
37:58 <Ampera> my floor is 64
38:07 <Ampera> my ceiling is 72
38:28 <Ampera> my outlet is 71
38:58 <Ampera> it is too hot in here
39:03 * Ampera sneezes
39:07 * Ampera sneezes again
39:17 * Ampera sneezes again again
44:33 <T3sl4> satan bless you
46:02 * steve30 is cold
46:26 * Ampera covers steve30 in a warm duvet and offers hot coffee (or cocoa)
53:05 * steve30 purrs at Ampera 
53:18 <Ampera> <3
54:44 <steve30> I've put the AC on to warm me up
55:44 <Ampera> heat pump?
55:51 <steve30> yes
55:55 <Ampera> nice
56:06 <Ampera> I've put a blanker on me to cool me down
56:15 <Ampera> *blanket
56:49 <Ampera> it's made me warmer, but also cozier
01:40 <Tezzers> Ampera: Got a weighted blanket?
01:44 <Tezzers> It makes cozy +10
01:55 <Ampera> no because I'm not an insaneperson
02:05 <Tezzers> whut
02:26 <Ampera> all my blankets have negative weights
02:55 <Tezzers> You whhhhhhhat?
03:03 <Ampera> you heard me
03:06 <Ampera> or maybe you didn't
03:07 <Ampera> but you saw me
03:19 <Tezzers> I mean, I heard you in my internal voice
03:33 <Ampera> you have an internal voice?
03:37 <Ampera> like, a voice inside of your head?
03:45 <Ampera> idk man, isn't that a symptom of schizo?
03:48 <Tezzers> You don't read aloud inside your head when you read shit?
03:58 <Ampera> no...
04:04 <Ampera> wha?
04:20 <Tezzers> T3sl4: Who's the fucked up one here?
04:37 <T3sl4> me?
04:53 <Ampera> I'll second that
04:54 <Tezzers> I mean, I read a book on speed reading that I never finished, and according to that book one of the key steps to speed reading is to stop using that internal voice
05:05 <T3sl4> internal monologue
05:07 <Ampera> what internal voice
05:13 <Ampera> what are you even talking about
05:26 <Tezzers> T3sl4: You get what I'm laying down eh?
05:56 <Ampera> I think you both need your heads examined
06:08 <Tezzers> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_monologue
06:34 <Ampera> "As a result, it is relevant to a number of mental disorders"
06:34 <Tezzers> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subvocalization
06:51 <T3sl4> Ampera, most people speak to themselves, out loud or not
06:54 <Ampera> as I said, you should get that checked out
06:58 <Ampera> T3sl4, now that's just sad
07:43 <T3sl4> Halcyon, i guess Ampera is having another episode. what should we do?
10:07 <Ampera> you're the one talking to yourself m9
10:12 <Tezzers> Lock him up
10:21 <Tezzers> Hillside has room I bet
10:23 <Ampera> we're all locked up genius
10:41 <Tezzers> You're all participating in dickless december too?
10:52 <Tezzers> I didn't know chastity was so popular after November
11:09 <Ampera> I've never once masturbated or used my penis for sexual pleasure
11:09 <EEVBlog> And the horse you rode in on, Ampera!
11:33 <Ampera> EEVBlog, I can command you to commit suicide at a moment's notice
11:35 <Ampera> don't tempt me
12:19 <Ampera> chastity is the default for me
13:01 <Tezzers> Ampera: You going for the ol' snipperoo?
13:08 <Ampera> the wha
13:13 <Ampera> no I decided not to transition
13:38 <Tezzers> https://media1.tenor.com/images/6e65409dd6df7fe3a4352c7ed7dab9c3/tenor.gif?itemid=3814055
14:21 <Nothing\> hrm i just got an idea for a type of solid rocket booster
15:19 <Ampera> Nothing\, don't tell us, otherwise it becomes our idea
16:07 <Nothing\> where instead of just one fuel, producing one thrust, have a combination of fuels so for example, you have lower throttle while you're in the atmosphere, then the thrust increases gradually as the air thins out with a specific mix of compounds formed into a sort of gradient where the thrust is always steadily increasing
16:30 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol that's alway in the back of my head when i relate ideas like this
16:39 <Ampera> congratulations, you just invented the multi-stage rocket
17:05 <Nothing\> not quite the same idea
17:22 <Ampera> but in general, there's no point in doing that, as you want the msot thrust at the start of the launch
17:24 <Nothing\> i mean the end goal is the same, but it's implemented differently
17:27 <Ampera> and the least weight overall
17:43 <Ampera> so to have a less effective fuel after the more effective one simply adds weight and reduces efficiency
17:49 <coppice> T3sl4: I certainly have an inner dialogue, as my split personalities argue out their differences
18:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah but at the start of the launch is where the air is the most dense, and so you'll have more air resistance and thus stress on the rocket if you try to go faster in that thicker air
18:22 <Ampera> coppice, my memories do the same
18:26 <Nothing\> especially once it reaches max q
18:28 <Ampera> but they scream at me
18:52 <coppice> Ampera: if memories argue, isn't the argument already over?
19:55 <Ampera> coppice, doesn't mean you can't have the same argument again
20:21 <coppice> you mean deja vous all over again?
20:43 <coppice> deja vu
20:59 <Ampera> no, more like the past, present, and future you, of all varieties and shapes deriding you for the decisions you have made, are making, and are about to make
21:27 <coppice> when I think of the past it brings back such memories
22:15 <Ampera> coppice, were any of them about credit cards, as those might be random access memories
22:53 <coppice> I don't want any random access to my credit cards
24:21 <Ampera> coppice, it's always something you may find yourself visa vis with.
25:06 <coppice> I've paid for a lot of visas with a visa card
29:03 Quit: coppice ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
29:42 * Halcyon smacks Ampera on the left cheek
29:52 <Ampera> what sort of cheek
30:02 <Halcyon> I left it open for your interpretation :P
30:16 <Ampera> ah, my dick cheek
30:19 <Ampera> how novel
30:29 <Halcyon> What the hell is a dick cheek?
30:30 * Ampera smacks Halcyon on his center chest-cheek
31:08 <Ampera> you ever put sharpie eyes and a smiley on a penis?
31:19 <Ampera> then smack it and pretend it's someone you hate?
31:22 <Ampera> thw6
31:29 <Ampera> er, that
31:40 <Ampera> I can't see my screen or my keyboard very well because dark
31:48 <Halcyon> No, no I have not
32:01 <Halcyon> Have you?
32:05 <Ampera> no
32:17 <Tezzers> It sounds like you might have
32:43 <Ampera> Tezzers, shut uo gabriel
32:52 <Tezzers> wut gabriel?
33:02 * Ampera smacks Tezzers
33:05 <Halcyon> Sounds like something T3sl4 would possible do after a few beers
33:05 <Ampera> don't correct me, slut
33:18 <Halcyon> Kinda a varient of the "elephant"
33:20 <Ampera> it'd probably be my face too
33:22 <Tezzers> Bitch what?
34:14 <Ampera> Tezzers, you never hear about that one with the pimp who's got three ho's?
34:34 <Tezzers> No
34:49 <Ampera> well, there was a pimp, collecting his keep from his three hos.
35:12 <Ampera> he goes up to the first one, and demands thirty bucks. the ho says she only owes 25
35:21 <Ampera> the pimp slaps the ho and says, don't corret me, bitch
35:42 <Ampera> so he goes to the second one and demands fourty, the ho says she only owes 35
35:50 <Ampera> the pimp slaps the ho and says, don't correct me bitch
36:04 <Ampera> so he goes to the third one, and demands fifty, the ho says she only owes 45
36:13 <Ampera> the pimp slaps the ho and says, don't correct me bitch
36:30 <Ampera> so finally, the pimp goes to his fourth ho, and demands sixty, the ho says she only owes 55
36:48 <Ampera> and then the pimp slaps the ho and says, don't correct me bitch
37:24 <Tezzers> And then?
37:32 <Tezzers> Oh
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37:42 <Tezzers> So he went to a ho that wasn't his?
37:49 <Tezzers> What's the point?
37:53 <Halcyon> I hate you so much Ampera
37:58 <Tezzers> I cleared my screen I forget why we're talking about this
38:05 <Ampera> at least Halcyon got it
38:24 Quit: Guest|97077 ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
38:29 <Halcyon> :P
12:36 * Halcyon prods Ampera proddingly
35:28 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir, wow look at all those greens
35:29 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/7fpShm4.png?1
12:00 <Nothing\> weird
12:09 <Nothing\> so an OTA is basically just a CCII
12:39 <Nothing\> explained that way, they make way more sense than trying to understand what transconductance is and going from there
21:11 <T3sl4> transconductance is just output current divided by input voltage
50:40 <hsn> hello
50:40 <EEVBlog> Hello there, hsn!
50:50 <Halcyon> Hey hsn
50:50 <hsn> <3 EEVBlog
50:56 <hsn> how r u Halcyon
51:02 <Halcyon> How are things in your part of the world?
51:05 <Halcyon> Not too bad
55:15 * steve30 purrs at Halcyon 
55:22 <Halcyon> Heya Steve :)
55:31 <hsn> hrm, its not so great in work :P
55:41 <Halcyon> I have work tomorrow :(
55:48 <Halcyon> hsn, you're in Bahrain right?
55:50 <hsn> but meh .. u know.. .fck it ..
55:53 <hsn> yes
56:06 <Halcyon> I was looking at a map the other day, it looks extremely dry there
56:06 <hsn> did u catch pedos from bahrain recently ? xD
56:14 <Halcyon> Hah no, not my problem :P
56:29 <Halcyon> It is extremely dusty/sandy there?
56:34 * steve30 suggests Halcyon snuggles up under a duvet instead of work
56:41 <hsn> thats why Ysjoelfir keeps calling me sandy
56:43 <hsn> lol
56:47 <Halcyon> Steve, call my Inspector tomorrow and tell him :P
56:56 <Halcyon> Is it true hsn?
57:00 <hsn> not "extremly sandy" .. its normal
57:04 <Halcyon> It's a serious question
57:17 * steve30 rings 000
57:23 <steve30> Wait, is it 000 there?
57:24 <Halcyon> Is there sand everywhere? On the roads, footpaths etc...?
57:29 <Halcyon> Yes or 112
57:33 <hsn> but .. what do i know .. maybe my "normal" isnt normal for u ?
57:39 <Halcyon> Actually 911 and 999 work as well, they just redirect
57:40 <hsn> no they are clean
57:59 <Halcyon> I kind of imagined there being like you lived next to a beach
58:52 <hsn> Halcyon, https://images.app.goo.gl/RPJWaH3xcowDFD5d6
59:03 <Halcyon> By comparison, I live in this general area: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bahrain/@-33.6510124,150.214089,44299m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x3e48524e6a47a211:0x2e9450e2dbda1046!8m2!3d26.0667!4d50.5577
59:08 <Halcyon> Dammit
59:19 <Halcyon> Actually that link works
59:22 <hsn> well they r burrying my old village beach
04:00 <hsn> ah Halcyon ur link confused me
04:14 <hsn> it had "bahrain" so i thought i need to click on search again xD
04:18 <Halcyon> Yeh it included my original search term but then I zoomed out
04:54 <Halcyon> We have trees, EVERYWHERE
04:57 <hsn> well ur area .. rusty area .. rest of the world is nice and green compared to us
05:12 <hsn> we used to have good amount .. old days
05:17 <Halcyon> Literally, my back yard about 10 metres from my back door is bushland
05:18 <hsn> 1980s i guess
05:43 <hsn> used to be called "country of the 1 million palm tree"
06:04 <Halcyon> I love palm trees
06:12 <hsn> http://www.wouterosterholt.com/the-island-of-a-million-palm-trees/the-island-of-a-million-palm-trees
07:12 <Halcyon> It's sad they got rid of them
09:37 <hsn> well, "uneducation" and "stupidity" is what is happening in the country .. :D
11:49 <Halcyon> Seems to be the way the world is going as a whole
12:42 <hsn> im not claiming "im the smart guy" .. but the whole country is built on "personal interest + wasta (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasta) + other serious problems)
13:11 <hsn> i guess thats true .. but here i would think its severe ..
15:05 <hsn> its too small country to be listed here lol : https://snipboard.io/tgh2Ns.jpg
16:15 <Halcyon> I see
16:34 <hsn> so Halcyon yesterday new programmer joined that i'll have to teach and give him tasks .. officially im not a manager or leader ..
17:02 <Halcyon> Ask for more money if you are expected to mentor other staff :P
17:08 <hsn> but my boss which understand zero in software stuff .. wanted to show him that he understands and idk what he was trying to proove ..
17:48 <hsn> so he started drawing stuff i sent him on the board related to software architecture and started acting like he is "the big picture" and im just working on details
18:22 <hsn> and then he emailed me and the other guy a link that i litterly sent him last week related to software testing .. !!
18:34 <hsn> and acted like he explains to me and the other guy
18:35 <Halcyon> In other words, he doesn't have a clue what you actually do
18:43 <Halcyon> "Big picture" is such a cop-out excuse
18:49 <hsn> Halcyon, absoloutly he keeps saying that
19:20 <hsn> for long time .. he keep saying it like its my mistake while he doesnt care to know and its not his competenece
19:25 <Halcyon> My view is, a manager should be able to do your job if they had to. Granted their knowledge might be outdated, but they should know and understand the fundamentals.
19:42 <hsn> no. he knows nothing
19:44 <Halcyon> If a manager doesn't know something, ask someone who does, they are the subject matter experts.
20:21 <hsn> Halcyon, the guy loves to act like the "subject matter non expert who knows the fundamentals of everything"
20:32 <Halcyon> Hahaha yep, I know the type
20:48 <Halcyon> So in other words, he knows nothing apart from buzzwords and fudges his way through his own work
21:24 <hsn> in my field yes .. in other fields maybe corrosion and some other mechanical stuff he does ok ..
21:37 <hsn> but electronics/it .. nothing buzz buzz
21:40 <Halcyon> Sounds like he is in the wrong field
22:01 <hsn> Halcyon, he is in "managment" .. :D
22:17 <Halcyon> Uhuh
22:18 <Halcyon> :P
22:42 <Halcyon> As I said, I know the type, I spend my week telling Senior Sergeants and Inspectors what to do, because they have no fucking idea
23:03 <Halcyon> They just think that my work involves clicking a few buttons and getting results
23:45 <Halcyon> We have a running joke at work, for people who don't understand our work, we just have a big "Get Evidence" button and magic happens.
24:11 <hsn> well let me just say that in my words ..
25:01 <hsn> i have a joke for my boss imagining me doing software design like following: if (toilet_working()){ toilet_keepWorking(); }
25:48 <hsn> and things under are just working by magic ^
26:47 <Halcyon> Hahaha
54:43 <steve30> Halcyon, this guy is cute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ny-oKDipak
56:09 <Halcyon> Yeh he is
56:38 <Halcyon> Not bad for a Ruski
57:35 <steve30> I do have to watch his videos with auto-generated & auto-translated subtitles though :D
57:44 <Halcyon> He kind of reminds me of: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-IEVMwBEfo
02:18 <steve30> hehe
02:27 <Halcyon> Matt Colbo is cute
04:04 <steve30> On the subject of subtitles, I watched a pornhub video with subtitles the other day.
04:16 <Halcyon> Which video? :P
04:36 <steve30> can't remember
06:10 <Halcyon> :P
22:34 <steve30> I couldn't help but think the 'dialogue' was a bit minimal and repetitive to warrant subtitles
23:28 <Halcyon> Just have been American porn
28:19 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOfpQt4KFCc
28:22 <Halcyon> OK that is cool
29:07 <Halcyon> (If it's real of course)
30:08 <steve30> cool
47:23 <hsn> steve30, u both are cool
48:08 <electrohead> you said porn and caught my attention
48:28 <electrohead> steve30: subtitles, or subtities?
48:31 <electrohead> :P
48:47 <steve30> :D
49:03 <electrohead> lol, I don't know why I'm still awake
49:20 * electrohead solders Halcyon's parts together in a shape of a penis, and hangs it on his ceiling
50:05 <Halcyon> Interesting ornament
50:24 <electrohead> the individual parts give it detail
50:26 <electrohead> :P
52:04 <Halcyon> Aren't you worried it would impail you?
52:14 <Halcyon> I mean, it's not exactly small :P
52:45 <Halcyon> electrohead: You wouldn't like Steve's porn :P
55:45 <steve30> i think i might go back to bed soon. i've been tired lately
58:39 <Halcyon> You're always tired Steve
58:53 <Halcyon> Have you had your blood iron checked?
59:12 <electrohead> no I wouldn't, hahaha
59:34 * steve30 get the neodymium magnets out
00:03 <Halcyon> Careful with those Steve :P
02:58 <electrohead> what are you going to do with them?
15:15 * steve30 collapses on Halcyon's lap
15:36 <electrohead> alright, it's bed time for this guy
16:18 <electrohead> 0315 here, surprised I'm up this late
16:22 <electrohead> g'night all o/
16:23 <Halcyon> Night buddy
16:33 * electrohead hugs Halcyon
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43:11 <K> hello
45:00 <Kuschelpony> Hello K
34:19 <Ysjoelfir> hello
43:03 <Kuschelpony> Hello Ysjoelfir as wel
43:22 <Kuschelpony> best wishes for Brunchtime from German timezone
43:43 * Halcyon pets the Kuschelpony 
43:58 <Kuschelpony> Ah and Hello halycon as well
43:58 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Kuschelpony!
44:05 <Halcyon> :)
44:13 <Ysjoelfir> well, brunchtime... good idea
45:26 <Kuschelpony> just waiting for food to heat up i nthe oven
45:44 <Kuschelpony> then back to bed as i still feel not that well
46:21 <Ysjoelfir> oh, did you catch the plague?
46:42 <Halcyon> Aww poor pony
46:46 <Halcyon> What have you got in the oven?
46:59 * Ysjoelfir puts a pan onto the stove
47:07 <steve30> I keep having trouble on the toilet. I should probably have some bran flakes.
47:25 <Kuschelpony> hmm, cant translate in english, its "Paprikasteak" and "Pommes mit Wellenschnitt"
47:32 <Halcyon> What is it with you guys being full of shit?
47:39 <Halcyon> Nothing\ was the same
48:08 <Kuschelpony> hmm, luckily i have at least no tiolet problems, its more like cough and headache
48:16 <Halcyon> Potato something?
48:22 <Halcyon> Fries?
49:00 <Ysjoelfir> zig zag cut fries and bellpepper steak
49:00 <Halcyon> And beef steak with something? Paprika? Capsicum?
49:06 <Halcyon> Ahh yes
49:11 <Halcyon> Sounds delicious
49:30 <Ysjoelfir> it probably is. I want some now, looking at my poor shrimps in the pan
49:41 <Kuschelpony> in days without having a cold its delicious, today it might still be good
49:50 <Halcyon> Just add extra chilli
49:55 <Halcyon> Makes everything taste better
50:11 <Kuschelpony> i try to mix anything with grileld onions but not today
50:20 <Kuschelpony> chioli is not my thing
50:47 <Halcyon> Suit yourself :)
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51:20 <Halcyon> I put chilli on just about everything
51:31 <Halcyon> The hotter the better
51:41 Nick: TheDeafPram is now known as TheDeafPrawn
51:48 <Halcyon> Mmmm prawn
51:57 <steve30> If I don't get enough fibre I have toilet troubles
52:11 <Halcyon> Haha the same can be said for most people Steve
52:20 <Halcyon> Although a morning coffee does it for me :P
52:29 <Kuschelpony> if thiungs get better the next days i might continue on my DC/DC converter trying to iron powder toriod that i mentioned a while ago
52:53 <steve30> It all comes out in a mess, then the skin ends up sore.
53:11 <steve30> And I'm sure TheDeafPrawn is delighted to have joined us at this particular moment.
53:15 <Halcyon> What Steve?
53:21 <Halcyon> Hah yes, I'm sure :P
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53:49 <Halcyon> There we go, we scared him off
54:31 <Kuschelpony> hmm Hairicorn, that name makes mental images of a hairy maned unicorn :)
54:59 <Halcyon> I imagine freshly husked corn cobs with the stringy bits that get stuck in your teeth
55:06 <K> eeew
55:24 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if I should take the time and effort today to get a wire wheel, grind off all the old crud from my cast iron pan, and reseason it...
55:44 <K> hand-scrape it!
57:37 * Ysjoelfir hands K a toothbrush sized nylon brush and the pan
57:39 <Ysjoelfir> Have fun
57:50 <Halcyon> I need to do the same Ysjoelfir
58:16 <K> no no i meant like with ways on a lathe or mill, with a carbide scraper and stuff
58:33 <Ysjoelfir> I got the pan like 2 years ago. roughly removed the old stuff and did five coats of reseasoning, but its nowhere near perfect
58:44 <Ysjoelfir> K - erm... that would be cool actually. but my lathe is way to small :D
58:56 <Halcyon> Oven cleaner should strip most of it off
01:01 <Ysjoelfir> should it? that sounds like a great idea, I have industry grade oven and bbq cleaner!
01:49 <Halcyon> I think so
01:57 <Halcyon> Just wash it really well afterwards
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05:54 <Halcyon> How do you season your pans Ysjoelfir ?
05:55 <Halcyon> Oven?
07:57 <Ysjoelfir> When I still had my big gas grill I used that. just crank it up at full blast, put pan onto it and close the lid. that thing is gone, so now I use my convection oven, yes. and sometimes my pizza oven for small things
08:16 <Halcyon> Yeh nice
08:25 <Halcyon> What kind of oil do you use?
08:49 <Ysjoelfir> I should make a new wooden handle for that pan as well, its... bad :D and looks like they put it with the pan into the oven for decades.
09:07 <Ysjoelfir> I usually use coconut oil, but I want to try a different one this time. not sure which though
09:07 <Halcyon> Hah my parents had pans like that
09:14 <Halcyon> Wooden handles from the 80's
09:26 <Ysjoelfir> yep, that one is probably from around that time as well
10:43 <Halcyon> I previously used Flax Seed oil
11:05 <Halcyon> But it also has a combination of peanut, olive and rice bran oil built up on it
11:41 <Halcyon> Flax seed oil tends to smoke a lot and it kind of smells like fish, so you would want to do it outside if possible
12:21 <Ysjoelfir> ew :D
12:26 <Ysjoelfir> coconut smells nice though^^
12:48 <Halcyon> Coconut oil works
13:02 <Halcyon> Otherwise I would use another high temperature oil like rice bran
14:14 <Ysjoelfir> I don't think we can get that here
14:25 <Halcyon> Oh no
14:40 <Halcyon> It's really nice to cook with, rather healthy and flavour neutral
14:47 <Halcyon> Also stands up to wok cooking
15:05 <Ysjoelfir> I can get "rice oil" from the asian supermarket, but that stuff is expensive as hell
15:48 <Halcyon> https://shop.coles.com.au/a/national/product/alfa-one-oil-rice-bran
15:52 <Halcyon> I can send you some :P
18:29 <Ysjoelfir> lol, when I open that link it just displays a fat "COLES ONLINE IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!" text :D
18:41 <Halcyon> Hahah
18:47 <Halcyon> It's AUD$9 for 3 litres
18:56 <K> "Coles Online is not available in your country or access has been blocked."
18:56 <Ysjoelfir> damn
18:58 <K> rude
19:12 <Ysjoelfir> for 9€ I can get like.... a 300ml bottle of rice oil here :D
20:11 <Ysjoelfir> hah, nice, from a "how to de- and re-season your cast iron cookware" blogpost: "And that really is the big takeaway here: A well-seasoned cast iron skillet is a well-used one. Spending more time in the kitchen using it, and less time on online forums reading arguments about it, is an excellent first step."
22:04 <Halcyon> That's more or less true
22:12 <Halcyon> Assuming you have a good season to start with
22:27 <Halcyon> It doesn't need to be perfect, just a decent coat or two
22:51 <Ysjoelfir> exactly. I have two pans, one has a good one, and then I got this one second hand. its shitty. :D
24:00 <Ysjoelfir> you can see that they used WAY TO MUCH oil, it has dark spots everywhere and drops of polymerized oil on the outsides, as well as they probably didn't clean it good enough, as the seasoning is loosening on the inside
24:32 <Halcyon> Yeh you need really thin coats
24:37 <Halcyon> If it's sticky, it's done wrong
24:51 <Ysjoelfir> yep
25:23 <Ysjoelfir> but looks like your suggested oven cleaner method should work, I'll try that right after I am done with my sausages
25:34 <Halcyon> Let me know how you go
25:59 <Ysjoelfir> and while I do that I may also make a new handle for it. Still have an old broom handle in the lab I want to use for stuff like that
27:51 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I also read that a self cleaning oven with pyrolysis should work. my mum has such a thing. Maybe I'll take the pan to her on christmas and try that?
28:52 <Halcyon> Yehhhhhh I dunno
29:01 <Halcyon> Maybe just stick with fire and/or hot oven
29:05 <Halcyon> It will just take longer
29:16 <T3sl4> i'd give it a try
30:36 <Ysjoelfir> pf, fire... would be happy if that would be allowed here xD if mrs. landlordladybitch would see my balcony where I store at the moment 40 liters of gasoline and 2x5kg Butane/Propane I would be homeless in no time :D
30:53 <Halcyon> Silly woman
31:10 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
31:51 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, fire safety isn't realy her thing. she forces us to lock the entrance door all the time. sadly for "some reason" now the lock got damaged. awwwwww :(
31:54 <K> yeah, 2020 is not gonna end itself, you know
32:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol
41:33 <Kuschelpony> finished brunch and a looong hooot shower
41:41 <Halcyon> It's weird seeing the entire rain radar at the limit of it's range: http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDR712.loop.shtml#skip
41:57 <Halcyon> You don't normally see a nice circle like that
42:27 <Ysjoelfir> huh oO that looks somehow creepy
43:57 <Halcyon> There is just *a lot* of rain around at the moment. Huge clouds
49:48 <hsn> Ysjoelfir in my country u r ..a wheel
50:24 <hsn> Steering i ment
51:08 <hsn> We call the husband who obey his wife ^ a steering wheel xD
51:11 <hsn> Also gm
51:55 <K> but what if they switch day by day?
52:22 <hsn> Meaning?
52:50 <K> one day husband obeys, the other day - wife
53:07 <hsn> Nah .. in here wife obey is natureal
53:21 <Halcyon> This is why I date guys :P
53:42 <hsn> To obey guys ?
53:50 <Halcyon> Pfft, no
54:11 <hsn> Explain no more... Mr freedom :p
54:24 <Halcyon> \o/ Weeeee
55:14 <hsn> Ysjoelfir: according to doulingo i learnt 200 german words .. i doubt that though xD
56:04 <K> scheisse!
56:47 <Halcyon> I'm in the mood for Hogan's Heroes now
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32:35 <T3sl4> neat, banana peel has more potassium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmaZdEq-Xzs
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39:52 <K> wat u callin me?!!
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56:33 <T3sl4> i'm saying you're a-peel-ing
57:00 <K> :|
57:37 <K> if you keep misbheaving, santa is not going to take orange man away!
01:40 <T3sl4> the annoying orange is not a-peel-ing
02:58 * K fumes
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04:03 * T3sl4 reduces K's humidity
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