// #eevblog — 2020-12-25
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00:01:25 <Ampera> Merry Christmas, Halcyon
00:01:30 <Ampera> I hope you have a better one than mine.
00:05:52 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Connection closed
00:13:26 <Lord_of_nothing> Merry Christmas to everyone
00:13:56 <Ampera> Merry chyrstler
00:16:42 <Lord_of_nothing> heil christmas who the german say
00:27:03 <Lord_of_nothing> should i order Lap Dance 3D [3D Blu-ray]?
00:28:25 <electrohead> I'm surprised amazon shows tits on their website :D
00:28:45 <electrohead> yes, I looked that up, and the first link was to the dvd on amazon
00:29:08 <Ampera> electrohead, I have seen horrors like you wouldn't believe on Amazon
00:29:57 <electrohead> oh joy, look, sex toys
00:29:59 <electrohead> this is amazing
00:30:13 <electrohead> so, literally *everything* is on amazon
00:30:14 <Lord_of_nothing> why not?
00:30:15 <electrohead> lol
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00:32:59 <Lord_of_nothing> https://de.chaturbate.com/rayfj40/
00:33:53 <Ampera> 23 people are out today in development and I'm not one of them
00:34:02 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, please don't post NSFW links
00:34:30 <Ampera> you've been pushing moderation for a little while, this is my last warning, the next thing you do will land you a ban.
00:37:05 <Lord_of_nothing> thats so rude
00:40:46 <electrohead> I can't see what exists on that page, without enabling javascript
00:41:12 <electrohead> and with a domain name of 'chaturbate' .. yeah, I'm not enabling javascript ;P
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01:15:27 <TheDude> hey
01:16:40 * Ampera hugs TheDude
01:16:44 <Ampera> how are you doing my the dude
01:25:28 <rust_collector> mornings people
01:25:41 <Ampera> good morning rust_collector how are you going
01:26:34 <rust_collector> could be worse, I have wiggled into my way too small pants, and a nice-ish shirt I have not seen before
01:26:53 <Ampera> simple, be less fat
01:27:00 <rust_collector> OI!
01:27:10 <Ampera> sorry, less obese.
01:28:55 <rust_collector> less morbidly obese, ok... that sort of makes sense
01:29:18 * Ampera rolls rust_collector down the stairs
01:30:45 * rust_collector bounces back up the stairs, and super-hugs Ampera, just to stop bouncing, and because he does not have anything against hugging an ampera
01:32:01 <rust_collector> i do know a guy who is very very veeery overweight. he did roll down his steep drive once, which was a thing you would like to see. rolling rolling rolling, arms and legs in all directions
01:34:51 <Lord_of_nothing> american lifestyle...
01:35:31 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, you Germans invented the concept of being fat
01:35:45 <Ampera> perfected and exported
01:37:23 <rust_collector> bu tyes, we are extremely american up here
01:37:58 <Ampera> yeah, but you guys are just proto-germans
01:39:07 <rust_collector> proto-german and thai, 50/50
01:42:26 <Ampera> speaking of being fat i have 5.6 lbs of ground beef ready to become taco meat
01:42:40 <Ampera> eevblog convert 5.6lbs to kg
01:42:40 <EEVBlog> The result is: 2.54 kg
01:44:20 <rust_collector> you really like converting things...
01:44:54 <TheDude> slight buh today
01:45:14 <TheDude> my car threw a check engine light at me
01:45:26 <rust_collector> WOOHOO!
01:45:29 <TheDude> and it coughed a little
01:45:42 <TheDude> now searching the internet what might fix it
01:45:49 <rust_collector> it is sort of christmas lights for... not really free
01:46:10 <TheDude> something to do with exhaust recirculation valve
01:46:14 <TheDude> p0488
01:46:21 <rust_collector> what car?
01:47:50 <rust_collector> ... ok
01:48:45 <TheDude> toyota auris 2007, 1.4 d-4d engine
01:48:52 <TheDude> 1nd-tv is the engine model
01:49:11 <rust_collector> ooh. fun
01:50:26 <TheDude> this car is anything but fun
01:50:36 <TheDude> it's boring as batshit
01:50:52 <TheDude> the only fun happens when there's snow on the road
01:50:54 <rust_collector> you could pop the valve open and have a look, but I doubt it is the egr.
01:51:23 <TheDude> I've read on two forums now that replacing the throttle body solved the problem
01:51:26 <rust_collector> unless you have been only driving it slowly to the store and back
01:51:51 <rust_collector> well, you will probably be ok if you just clean the throttle body.
01:51:55 <TheDude> I've usually driven it for short trips during the week
01:51:59 <rust_collector> I would try that first
01:52:11 <TheDude> and did 2 hours on the motorway at quite high speed on the weekends
01:52:16 <TheDude> that kept it fairly happy
01:52:37 <TheDude> but because covid and whatnot, I haven't driven it on the motorway much in the last year, so the carbon deposits might have built up
01:52:39 <rust_collector> yeah, i do not think they tend to clog up the egr much really
01:53:09 <rust_collector> i would try the throttle body scrubbing first, and see
01:53:31 <TheDude> the main problem is that I don't have a space to do this
01:54:51 <rust_collector> eeh, it does not take more space than the car itself
01:55:26 <TheDude> I live in a flat
01:55:39 <TheDude> the garage underneath has strict rules that no repairs are to be carried out there
01:56:01 <TheDude> also the light is automatic and shuts on you regularly, even if you only go clean the windows and whatnot
01:56:20 <TheDude> my parents house is a row house
01:56:28 <rust_collector> go to the nearest gas station, and pretend you are filling washer fluid or something
01:56:35 <TheDude> and the parking lot is right across the narrow street between the houses and the parking spaces
01:59:24 <Ampera> Yeah I'd just find some place in the middle of somewhere and do it
02:00:24 <TheDude> I'll figure something out
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03:25:19 <hsn> T3sl4: https://youtu.be/MXx6z9zL5Qk
03:25:34 <hsn> Altium is proud they made logo insert feature
03:30:12 <arch> what a load of shit. kicad's been able to import bitmaps for ages
03:33:26 <T3sl4> they've had some manner of import since forever
03:33:36 <T3sl4> looks like they're finally making a reasonable one
04:32:02 <Lord_of_nothing> and does everyone got there anti depressent
04:32:05 <Lord_of_nothing> ?
04:33:08 <arch> TheDude, i just did a small experiment with the simple constant current source powered bjt temperature sensor. long story short, there's an error of about 5C if i JUST heat up the current source section itself
04:34:36 <Kuschelpony> arch, thats what i worried yesterday...
04:35:01 <arch> well, that's why we decided to go with a NTC thermistor lol :D
04:35:14 <arch> NTC thermistor and voltage reference
04:37:50 <arch> i mean, 5C is acceptable though. it's a usable device.
04:38:27 <arch> in other words, the temperature error makes it appear that your device is hotter than it really is IF only the control section heats up alone
04:39:00 <arch> so in a way, it makes the design more cautious heh
04:39:35 <arch> https://i.imgur.com/rwM69vd.png
04:40:42 <arch> i meant BC556* not 546
04:41:08 <arch> im sure they have the same or very close tempcos anyways
04:43:36 <Kuschelpony> i found an circuit of an simple constant current source that is almost temperature independ
04:44:09 <Kuschelpony> it uses an oldsytel red led (important) that has about 1,6V forward voltage with very close to -2mV/�C
04:44:51 <Kuschelpony> so when using this as a bias voltage for a silicon transistor, there is close to 1V at the emitter resisor that is almost temperature independ
04:46:39 <arch> not sure what you mean. are you saying use the LED itself as the temp sensor?
04:48:13 <Kuschelpony> no
04:48:26 <Kuschelpony> the LED as temperature depend bias voltage for the current source transistor
04:48:56 <Kuschelpony> then you have an almost temperrature independ emitter voltage and therefore collector current that can be ussed to feed the real temperature sensind junction
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04:49:05 <Kuschelpony> im looking up a schematic
04:50:31 <Kuschelpony> oh... endless led driver schematics, might take a while to find what i had in mind
04:50:37 <arch> lol
04:51:02 <Kuschelpony> sorry for the confusion
04:51:13 <arch> do you mean temperature INdependent?
04:52:49 <Kuschelpony> the current source yes
04:53:20 <Kuschelpony> its a circuit where hte led voltage that is temperature depend cancels out the Ube that is also temperature depend
04:53:32 <Kuschelpony> was often used in HiFi amps of the 80s and 90s
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05:12:59 <TheDude> arch, it makes no sense to make a constant current source for measuring temperature with an NTC
05:13:18 <TheDude> for a linear RTD (PTC), it does
05:13:23 <TheDude> for ntc, not so much
05:13:48 <Kuschelpony> thedude, that was in response to yesterday when he wanted to measure temperature with an Ube drop of -2mV(�C
05:14:03 <arch> no no TheDude, i mean i was testing out using a simple cc source like the schematic shown, and found that there is an error of 5C about
05:14:45 <TheDude> that's not a very good constant current souce
05:14:54 <TheDude> decent enough for biasing something, perhaps, but not much more
05:15:57 <electrohead> o/
05:19:30 * Ampera hugs electrohead with 5.6lbs of ground beef
05:19:59 * electrohead hugs Ampera with hot pepper cheese
05:25:45 * Ampera grates electrohead's cheese and puts it on the tacos he is making, giving electrohead some
05:26:32 <electrohead> I just got some chicken out of the freezer
05:26:43 <electrohead> speaking of, though, do need to hit the store up again
05:27:47 <Ampera> that poor store
05:33:26 <electrohead> lol
05:37:53 <Ampera> https://youtube.com/watch?v=OSZk8hPw5iQ
05:54:03 <electrohead> what's this?
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06:02:31 <MRiddickW> Does anyone sell grab bags of populated PCBs? Got a hot air rework station and want to practice on junk.
06:03:18 <electrohead> have any broken electronics laying around? :p
06:03:36 <MRiddickW> Only things I want to fix. :D
06:03:50 <electrohead> https://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/
06:04:12 <electrohead> you can check around on there, not sure if they have random PCBs with surface mount components, though
06:06:35 <MRiddickW> Cool, thanks!
06:08:16 <MRiddickW> Also I guess really just a single motherboard would probably provide the amount of entertainment I'm looking for.
06:14:21 <Lord_of_nothing> hmm ehsz does everyone do now?
06:14:26 <Lord_of_nothing> what
06:16:43 <K> eat
06:24:00 <MRiddickW> Boom. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Genuine-IVIEW-MAXIMUS-II-Intel-Quad-Trail-Z3735F-2GB-AS-IS-For-Parts-/372143427998
06:24:13 <MRiddickW> Broken motherboard coming my way.
06:25:30 <electrohead> \o/
06:25:37 <electrohead> ebay is so nice
06:25:57 <electrohead> now, give it another year, and you'll have a room full of parts and components
06:26:00 <electrohead> <.<
06:26:21 <MRiddickW> Oh, believe me it's already an issue. :D
06:26:35 <electrohead> :D
06:26:53 <electrohead> I have bins full of parts and PCBs
06:26:58 <electrohead> and, other things as well
06:27:11 <electrohead> err, correction - my lab is full of useful junk
06:27:13 <electrohead> lol
06:27:40 <MRiddickW> Buying some 2" x 2" and antistatic 2" x 3" bags have done wonders for component storage, down from the 4" x 6" bags most Mouser parts come in.
06:27:41 <MRiddickW> Lol
06:28:08 <electrohead> I imagine you collect test equipment, yes?
06:29:01 <MRiddickW> To some extent.
06:29:34 <MRiddickW> I'm happy to collect more, but the opportunities haven't present themselves much yet.
06:31:30 <electrohead> yeah same here
06:31:38 <electrohead> just don't have the money right now
06:31:41 <electrohead> even for used gear
06:31:56 <electrohead> but, hopefully within the next few months, I'll be able to get something new
06:33:22 <Ampera> electrohead, song I found and like
06:33:56 <MRiddickW> Yeah. Plus other than a desoldering station, I really have all the equipment I need, so it's hard to just troll Craigslist and be like "this function generator is only $300 and marginally better than my current one!"
06:34:42 <electrohead> I would love to get a decent spectrum analyzer
06:34:48 <electrohead> but, they aren't cheap
06:35:33 <MRiddickW> Ohh, that'd be nice.
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06:39:44 <MRiddickW> I have a couple of fairly high power benchtop power supplies (40V 5A, 60V 9A) that I got from work, so that's pretty neat.
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06:42:17 <MRiddickW> Pardon the mess: https://imgur.com/iqPTQQu
06:43:08 <MRiddickW> Err... https://i.imgur.com/iqPTQQu.jpg
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06:59:00 <electrohead> nice :)
06:59:01 <electrohead> I like it
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07:43:14 <MRiddickW> Thanks! The bench is relatively new to me. Previous bench was same size, but the upper shelf was much shallower and lower, so the only equipment it could really hold was a digital oscilloscope.
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09:29:12 <Nothing\> guess everyone's out merry christmasing except me
09:30:32 <rust_collector> nah, still in.
09:30:53 <Nothing\> right on. hey man.
09:31:16 <rust_collector> mominlaw is still here, but... it could be worse
09:31:45 <Nothing\> right on. good that you guys get along
09:32:25 <rust_collector> yeah, she is ok-ish
09:32:37 <Nothing\> my ex's mom was awful
09:32:52 <Nothing\> like, stereotypical redneck country bumpkin
09:33:41 <Nothing\> i remember my ex telling me how her mom once tried to treat her (my ex's) ear infection by putting piss in her ear
09:33:49 <Nothing\> honest to god human urine
09:34:11 <rust_collector> well... what if that worked?
09:34:21 <Nothing\> and her dad disciplined her little sister for swearing by forcing her to drink dish detergent
09:34:29 <Nothing\> not suck a bar of soap
09:34:35 <Nothing\> fucking drink dish detergent
09:34:49 <Nothing\> which says right on it "if consumed, contact poison control"
09:34:52 <rust_collector> that should get stuff moving
09:35:07 <Nothing\> yeah i'd say lol
09:35:32 <Nothing\> i remember as a kid i used to think the hospital treated constipation by giving you a grease enema
09:35:45 <Nothing\> like, severe constipation
09:36:12 <rust_collector> grease... well, you can use kerosene. sort of close
09:36:29 <Nothing\> lol just like LA Beast's video where he drinks a gallon of canola oil then
09:36:51 <Nothing\> ruins several pairs of shorts by having involuntary diarrhea into them
09:36:51 <rust_collector> uuh, great idea
09:42:05 <Nothing\> you ever see what i got for xmas rust_collector?
09:42:14 <Nothing\> as a sorta early present from my mum
09:42:17 <rust_collector> nooooo
09:42:22 <Nothing\> ah
09:42:24 <Nothing\> here
09:42:25 <Nothing\> https://ibb.co/tHzcbB8
09:42:38 <Nothing\> easily one of the best gifts i've ever gotten as an adult
09:43:12 <rust_collector> a poster?
09:43:58 <Nothing\> it's an actual... i dunno if it's a painting or what
09:44:03 <Nothing\> but it's done on canvas
09:44:10 <Nothing\> and not just any poster
09:44:17 <Nothing\> it's a super mario bros 3 poster
09:44:33 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
09:44:37 <Nothing\> i believe that was either the cover art or a poster from an advert back when it was released
09:44:42 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3 <3 <3
09:44:46 <Nothing\> merry christmas buddy
09:44:50 <rust_collector> heh. well, that is probably your things, so...
09:44:53 <Ampera> bah humbug
09:45:02 <Nothing\> Ampera, an apropos response
09:45:13 <Nothing\> Ampera, yeah once you turn 18, christmas isn't so fun anymore
09:45:38 <Ampera> there's no reason for that rule to be true, but for whatever reason, it's happened to be so for me
09:45:42 <Ampera> but through no fault of my own really
09:45:47 <rust_collector> ACTUALLY when you are 18 years and 3 months
09:45:51 <Nothing\> actually it's more when you move out of your parents' house, but for me it was when i was 14 and my dad abandoned the family so my mom couldn't afford the lavish christmases i was used to
09:46:22 <Ampera> for me it's my dad trying to force me into his new family
09:46:35 <Ampera> christmas would be great if it was just me :P
09:46:40 <Nothing\> Ampera, tbh i think that woulda been worse for me
09:46:57 <Nothing\> i fucking HATE(D) his new wife
09:47:12 <Nothing\> she's got that happy bubbly personality that's as see through as a window
09:47:20 <Ampera> I don't hate her, she makes me incredibly uncomfortable, and half of it is because my dad was just suck a dick about the whole thing
09:47:44 <Nothing\> not to mention she fucked with my head a LOT when my ex just left me and i was grieving with drugs and so on
09:48:17 <Nothing\> thing is, it was none of her business in the first place. But she made it her business.
09:48:17 <Ampera> She hasn't done anything to me.
09:48:23 <Nothing\> indeed
09:48:28 <Nothing\> you have no reason to hate her
09:48:52 <Nothing\> wait, who are we talking about now? lol
09:49:00 <Ampera> my dad's girlfriend
09:49:54 <Nothing\> ah, right sorry
09:50:04 <Nothing\> i've been getting bad brain fog lately.
09:50:11 <Ampera> It's one thing for my dad to have been malevolent and be a dick on purpose, but he's a case of a person whose road to hell was paved with good intentions.
09:50:15 <Nothing\> and short term memory issues
09:50:26 <Ampera> maybe you're getting dementia
09:50:45 <Nothing\> no, i'm just taking (abusing) my meds too much
09:51:04 <Nothing\> my resolution is going to be to take them properly and eventually wean off of them
09:51:25 <Nothing\> hopefully leading to me weaning off of the methadone
09:51:26 <Ampera> stick to it or I swear to maple leaf jesus I'll come up there and beat the fuck out of you
09:51:32 <Nothing\> but that's a goal years into the future
09:51:51 <Nothing\> i'll try, that's all i can promise
09:52:06 <Ampera> Honestly, I seem to have not fixed, but greatly improved my own mental problem
09:52:08 <Nothing\> i've learned over the years nobody can ever say for certain "i'm quitting X addiction"
09:52:20 <Nothing\> because the failure rate is so astronomically high
09:52:24 <Ampera> It's still there, don't get me wrong, but I think what I did was manage to get it into my brain that there's nothing I can do to fix it
09:52:34 <Ampera> part of the problem was stressing over the solution
09:52:37 <Nothing\> that's great to hear
09:52:57 <Nothing\> right
09:53:08 <Ampera> For me, it's almost like an addiction. I'm probably not going to quit any time soon, but the point is to keep the urges and desires in a certain time and place, and leave it out of the rest of my life.
09:53:29 <Nothing\> it's like this serenity prayer they have in 12 step programs, i know you're not big on god or 12 step programs probably, but it's got some good wisdom to it
09:53:40 <rust_collector> Ampera, i think you are onto something there. things are what they are... so you have to deal with it
09:53:42 <Nothing\> i forget it verbatim but part of it is
09:54:20 <Nothing\> help me with the things i'm powerless to change, give me the courage to change the things i can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
09:54:49 <Nothing\> i always liked that, even before i became religious just cuz it's so true
09:56:12 <Nothing\> part of fixing one's problems is getting help (in whatever form) with the things you have no control over, taking charge over the things you do have control over and recognizing the difference so you don't end up missing out on an opportunity to better yourself
09:56:35 <Nothing\> i've also learned that balance is an imperative part of life, too
09:56:40 <Nothing\> just in general
09:58:21 <Nothing\> oh how i gave that starry old petitsa a good tolchok on the litzo only to see bog and all his glory come pouring from her gulliver like a pile of rotted kartoffel
09:59:03 <Nothing\> that really makes little sense, but i just had to speak some nadsat
09:59:06 <rust_collector> did you just have a stroke?
09:59:27 <Nothing\> lol no, it's a slanguage they use in a clockwork orange called nadsat
09:59:54 <Nothing\> a combination of russian, cockney rhyming slang, baby talk, and some others
10:00:32 <Nothing\> the first time you read the book it's like that, though.
10:00:50 <Nothing\> it's like "wtf is going on? what the hell is he even saying?"
10:01:42 <coppice> does Burgess explain why he chose a combination of Russian and Cockney?
10:01:53 <Nothing\> i don't believe so
10:02:49 <Nothing\> i only read the prologue once but the main thing i got from it was he wasn't very happy with a clock work orange's success cuz it wasn't his favourite book he wrote
10:03:01 <Nothing\> or anything close to his favourite
10:04:59 <coppice> he should have been happy with any success his books had, since he said he only wrote them to create an income quickly
10:05:02 <MrMobodies> Hello
10:05:45 <MrMobodies> I'd thought I'd look up at Facebook in the local village as they communicate about crime
10:05:56 <MrMobodies> lots of catalyitic converters being stolen
10:06:08 <MrMobodies> so I had an old Facebook account I barely every used
10:06:21 <MrMobodies> went on there and it is full of... crap
10:06:34 <MrMobodies> I have been signed up to groups and stuff that I don't remember
10:06:53 <MrMobodies> and no way to turn it off apparently they remove the suggestion feature
10:06:54 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/3nDnzzh
10:07:25 <coppice> MrMobodies: is anyone offering armour plating packages to protect your catalytic converter?
10:07:35 <MrMobodies> I scroll down a video about a girl pretended to have thingy time of the month thing played felt absolutely disgusted.
10:07:51 <MrMobodies> nope
10:08:21 <MrMobodies> I know they can bolt it on but depend on the cutter and if they can jack the car enough
10:08:51 <rust_collector> you should start selling adhesive strips, that you put across the joint, so you can notice if someone stole your cat
10:09:31 <coppice> rust_collector: its not something you could really miss
10:09:38 <MrMobodies> make I could mount hidden spikes around it
10:09:39 <rust_collector> oh really?
10:09:42 <MrMobodies> Make them SCREAM
10:09:57 <Nothing\> huh
10:10:04 <MrMobodies> oh actually it might hurt the cats and foxes
10:10:08 <Nothing\> the russian word for brother is "brat"
10:10:22 <coppice> put insulating joints in the exhaust systems and electrify it
10:10:24 <MrMobodies> I mean spikes around the exhaust
10:10:26 <rust_collector> why are you running over cats and foxes?
10:11:06 <MrMobodies> nnonono, crooks are jacking up cars and stealing the exhuasts for the converters
10:11:22 <MrMobodies> I am thinking of putting spikes there in hope they will hurt themselves in the process
10:12:01 <MrMobodies> https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-8935001/The-cars-targeted-catalytic-converter-thieves.html
10:12:14 <rust_collector> yeh, i agree with coppice, park near the train lines, and connect it to the power line
10:12:16 <MrMobodies> They say is the metals in them but then I heard you need a lot of them to sell
10:12:49 <MrMobodies> I see so they electrocute themselves red handed
10:13:27 <rust_collector> yes, if you are closer to a really high power line, use that in stead, so there is no evidence you did anything
10:14:59 <MrMobodies> I am not close to any powerline but I'll think of something. maybe arm the metal spikes so they get a shock.
10:15:03 <MrMobodies> Anybody uses Facebook? and do you see a setting in general "SUGGESTED FOR YOU"?
10:15:15 <rust_collector> no
10:15:39 <MrMobodies> if it hasn't and someone asks, you waana join our vllage etc, nononono
10:16:04 <MrMobodies> what do you think of this page?
10:16:06 <MrMobodies> https://i.imgur.com/rOs5sNfg.jpg
10:16:14 <MrMobodies> I expect it to be blank
10:16:20 <MrMobodies> and i getting all that crap
10:16:52 <rust_collector> looks like something facebook, by the url?
10:16:54 <MrMobodies> I think I last used it over 10 years ago
10:17:06 <MrMobodies> it is my "main" homepage
10:17:18 <MrMobodies> I have been joined onto groups that are forgein.
10:17:22 <rust_collector> great.
10:17:27 <MrMobodies> but no posts by me
10:17:34 <MrMobodies> so they spammed me
10:17:34 <rust_collector> multicultural you
10:17:59 <MrMobodies> I see, they trying to multiculture me...
10:18:30 <MrMobodies> a video started playing when I was hiding the posts
10:18:52 <MrMobodies> a girl pretending to have her "time of the month" and screamed, dad came in a panic and she was joking
10:18:55 <MrMobodies> that to me is SICK
10:19:33 <MrMobodies> and I thought last nail in the coffin for that one, I better leave it at that and not use the platfornm.
10:19:39 <rust_collector> just wait. they will make half of you change gender, and your skin will be converted to various colours
10:20:27 <MrMobodies> I suppose that is possible if i put up with their "b*llshit spam posts.
10:20:46 <rust_collector> right. so get off that thing.
10:20:54 <MrMobodies> they are not even sponsored ads
10:21:14 <MrMobodies> I just feed a bit sick from that video, talking of culture...
10:21:24 <Lord_of_nothing> hey guys
10:21:26 <rust_collector> how does facebook look in lynx?
10:21:28 <MrMobodies> and I didn't even hit the play button it did it for me
10:21:34 <Lord_of_nothing> Does anyone elese feel depressed to?
10:21:37 <rust_collector> no
10:21:46 <MrMobodies> yes, after that video it scared me
10:21:57 <Lord_of_nothing> which one?
10:22:04 <rust_collector> the one he saw
10:22:09 <MrMobodies> i'll see IF i CAN FIND IT
10:22:29 * rust_collector hope it does its autoplay magic
10:22:46 <Lord_of_nothing> I watch
10:22:46 <Lord_of_nothing> 12 "The Cap'n Toby Show" Carol Banker Vince Gilligan & John Shiban & Frank Spotnitz June 1, 2001 1AEB11 3.6[5]
10:22:47 <Lord_of_nothing> The Lone Gunmen try to solve the murders of two FBI agents who were working undercover on Langly's favorite TV series.
10:22:54 <Nothing\> horrible
10:23:11 <Nothing\> this wee incandescent lightbulb i have is labeled for 1.5v
10:23:21 <rust_collector> OH NO!
10:23:25 <Nothing\> so i tried a single AA cell (cheapo brand)
10:23:29 <Nothing\> got nothing
10:23:43 <Lord_of_nothing> ladys back then wear cute and nice cloth
10:23:45 <Nothing\> tried 2, after a few minutes the filament glowed red
10:24:05 <Nothing\> took 4 cheapo batteries to provide enough current for it
10:24:26 <rust_collector> that could be why bicycles and such used 4 D cells
10:24:47 <MrMobodies> I can't find it now... and it's bizzare all the suggestions have GONE
10:25:09 <Nothing\> you know what tired is in french?
10:25:12 <Nothing\> fatigue
10:25:16 <MrMobodies> actually still stuff on the videos
10:25:21 <Nothing\> which is pronounced "fatty gay"
10:25:32 <Nothing\> we had a lot of fun with thta one in school
10:25:46 <rust_collector> MrMobodies, as you are back on facebook again, how does it look in a text browser?
10:27:41 <MrMobodies> sorry can't find it.. I'l check it out
10:27:44 <MrMobodies> that's an idea
10:27:55 <MrMobodies> Palemoon. no css, no javascript be tit wont work
10:32:17 <MrMobodies> it works with css off but nothing shows when JS is turned off
10:32:35 <MrMobodies> and Imgur has timed out
10:34:18 <MrMobodies> https://imgur.com/a/llJqHX0
10:34:49 <MrMobodies> That is scary, friend requests, are appearing now.
10:35:01 <MrMobodies> I didn't have anyone on there
10:35:05 <MrMobodies> I don't know those peopke
10:36:13 <MrMobodies> it seems to only show with the text
10:39:25 <MrMobodies> I took take of the UI stuff on Facebook some days ago, and I found it easy that others for some reason.
10:39:59 <MrMobodies> but some of the dimming stuff are the parent element so can't stop those
10:41:12 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
10:41:15 <Halcyon> Merry Christmas you lot
10:41:44 <rust_collector> merry christmas yourself. we are done with that up here
10:41:59 <Halcyon> We had our Christmas a few weeks ago, today is a day of leisure for me :)
10:43:08 <MrMobodies> that'd be 20 minutes more
10:43:16 <MrMobodies> in the UK
10:43:37 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:43:43 <Halcyon> \o/
10:43:56 <Ampera> have time for a call?
10:44:06 <Halcyon> Not at the moment, I'm about to go out
10:44:10 <Halcyon> I'll be back later
10:44:11 <Ampera> alright, have fun
10:44:53 <rust_collector> Halcyon, you should clean your face, I had some gloop on me when I hugged Ampera a bit ago, after he pushed me down the stairs
10:45:19 <Halcyon> Lovely :P
10:46:27 <MrMobodies> oh dear... not looking good
10:46:30 <MrMobodies> https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/6121
10:47:30 <rust_collector> nah, probably not great. i think you will have a good bit of rain in the next few days
10:47:33 <MrMobodies> the area flooded yesterday but that was a bit over 1.8
10:47:44 <MrMobodies> it was raining heavily though for days
10:48:04 <MrMobodies> it just stopped this morning
10:49:00 <MrMobodies> the neighbours around the corner were flooding and had to get their pumps out
10:49:14 <MrMobodies> the manhole covers were overlflowing
10:49:44 <MrMobodies> and my toilet wouldn't flush and the water was going down the sink slowly and that was before I found out.
10:50:17 <MrMobodies> aah Imgur "Imgur is over capacity!"
10:50:25 <rust_collector> hehe, in one of the cities close to here, they have a few people on call, which are supposed to go and stand on the manhole covers. that has to be a great job
10:51:07 <MrMobodies> actually they were to call anglian water.
10:51:22 <MrMobodies> we have pumping a station but it stops when there is too much water
10:51:31 <MrMobodies> so they were suppose to send a tanker out
10:51:45 <MrMobodies> nobody would answer this time for them but I did report it
10:51:55 <MrMobodies> on their website
10:53:27 <MrMobodies> isnt' that strange, if I can log in under a different username it works
10:53:34 <MrMobodies> oh it stalled
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10:56:53 <MrMobodies> There is another river up a hill
10:56:55 <MrMobodies> https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/warnings?location=pe7+2bj
10:57:07 <MrMobodies> I am going to out to investigate
10:57:24 <rust_collector> rivers going up hill is pretty rare
10:57:26 <MrMobodies> if it is what i think it is I better start moving my stuff upstairs
10:57:34 <MrMobodies> nonono, I mean flowing down the hill
10:57:51 <rust_collector> oh
10:57:52 <MrMobodies> there is a river under me, down the road which is going to flood
10:58:01 <MrMobodies> and the "UPPer" river nene
10:58:18 <MrMobodies> so that will flow down to join the rest of the water/..
10:58:32 <rust_collector> oh, that sounds normal
10:58:33 <MrMobodies> Lower: https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/6121
10:58:43 <MrMobodies> Higher: https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/station/6286?direction=u
10:58:59 <MrMobodies> if that higher one burst's its bank that will fill the village up I suppose
11:04:38 <rust_collector> good luck with that. and good night
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11:23:28 <arch> TheDude, this looks pretty neat: https://www.tindie.com/products/kaktus/mightywatt-70w-electronic-load-for-arduino/
11:23:35 <arch> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/kaktus85/MightyWattR3/master/Schematic-and-BOM/MightyWatt%20R3%20Schematic.pdf
11:23:56 <arch> seems a bit small to dissipate 70W safely though, but looks cute
11:25:45 <TheDude> nyet
11:26:03 <TheDude> what the fuck is that shit with the sensing resistors
11:26:40 <arch> bah, do i have to pull out my meme that i like to use with T3sl4 again?
11:26:43 <TheDude> also who the heck draws opamps like that
11:26:55 <TheDude> humor me :D
11:27:02 <arch> https://img.ifunny.co/images/fe31e500461bba71a84d6bc41dfc071c81c589d2fab9632175fbde667903240c_1.jpg
11:27:45 <arch> https://github.com/kaktus85/MightyWattR3 is the repo
11:29:25 <TheDude> haha :D
11:29:59 <TheDude> tbh, I have a problem with people on dunning-kruger's spike
11:32:36 <coppice_> Why are there three parallel sense resistors, apparently of different types. and apparently 4 terminal? That isn't going to work out well
11:32:56 <TheDude> it just now dawned on me that they might be alternative footprints
11:33:09 <TheDude> but in that case I'd expect red X-es on two of them
11:33:17 <TheDude> or at least DNP next to them
11:34:22 <arch> tbh, this one appears more professionally done than the one from instructables
11:36:03 <coppice_> most of these loads provide very minimal functionality
11:36:13 <TheDude> neither seems professionally done :D
11:36:45 <arch> b-but...i dont wanna spend $500 on a DC load =(
11:36:57 <TheDude> if they were, they wouldn't have the target audience of hobbyists
11:37:36 <arch> butts...ya know what, i think i might just pop in a LM358 and call it a day; constant current load is good enough for me lol
11:37:37 <TheDude> there's nothing wrong with that, but you need to distinguish the difference
11:37:44 <coppice_> I don't understand why do many people make their project plug into an arduino. there isn't much to an arduino board. why not just lay out the parts on your own board, and avoid all the connectors?
11:38:06 <arch> that takes more time
11:38:13 <TheDude> it has to do with selling it to the target audience
11:38:26 <arch> tru dat, mainly hipsters
11:40:03 <arch> ey wat, three different resistor values indeed. and two different form factors too
11:40:46 <TheDude> different current capabilities, probably
11:41:22 <arch> naw, they're all very low value current shunts, probably 10mOhms
11:42:48 <TheDude> all the same value?
11:43:00 <TheDude> or... I could just check the BOM myself :D
11:43:27 <arch> it actually doesn't list in the BOM, or maybe im blind
11:44:43 <TheDude> nope, no values
11:44:50 <arch> he has .sch and .brd files, maybe altium. aint nobody got money fo dat
11:45:03 <arch> kicad or gtfo
11:45:31 <TheDude> nah
11:45:34 <TheDude> those are eagle
11:45:48 <TheDude> altium has pcbdoc and schdoc
11:46:24 <TheDude> you can also tell by the disgusting green and red color scheme of the schematic
11:46:33 <arch> lol
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12:28:13 <MrMobodies> Well, it is dry out there
12:28:35 <MrMobodies> but the river levels are rising and it is predicted that the surrounded area will be flooded
12:28:57 <MrMobodies> so I have to sleep to rest for a while and start preparing.
12:42:58 <electrohead> o/
12:43:08 * Ampera kisses electrohead
12:43:11 <Ampera> how are you doing electrohead
12:43:24 <electrohead> I pulled something in my shoulder, so.. sore as fuck >.<
12:43:50 <electrohead> you?
12:43:55 * electrohead attempts to wake up
12:43:57 * Ampera throws a bottle of aspirin and a bottle of paracetamol at electrohead
12:44:27 <Ampera> if you want to stay awake, add caffeine to the mix, if you don't, diphenhydramine
12:44:47 <Ampera> aspirin, paracetamol, caffeine, and diphenhydramine are my four basic medicines I use for almost anything
12:44:48 <electrohead> yeah I have coffee for my supply of caffeine :p
12:44:59 <electrohead> and I try my damnest not to take pills
12:45:32 <Ampera> oh, and cetrizine
12:45:39 <Ampera> which can be helpful sometimes
12:46:09 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHNwLqza37k
12:46:09 <electrohead> hey, is it raining up in your neck of the woods?
12:46:14 <electrohead> it's fucking pouring here
12:46:22 <Ampera> not at a window to check, give me a second
12:47:21 <Ampera> electrohead, the ground is wet, it's been raining mildly on and off all day, but not excessively here
12:47:30 <electrohead> ahh
12:47:35 <Ampera> We only get strong rain in bursts
12:47:37 <electrohead> yeah I woke up to a downpour
12:47:49 <Ampera> so we'll have instances of severe torrential downpour, but they'll never last more than five minutes
12:47:56 <Ampera> there may be multiple bursts or only one
12:48:04 <Ampera> and it may drizzle all day
12:48:09 <Ampera> but we never get long term sustained rainfall
12:48:37 <Ampera> I believe we're in a valley, which is why
12:49:22 <DHess_US> I rained last night but today and tonight it is just cold.
12:49:28 <DHess_US> Never got above freezing today.
12:49:43 <Ampera> yeah if you look at a depression map of NY we're sorta in a dip compared to the rest of the state
12:49:48 <Ampera> so rain just sorta goes right over us
12:50:02 <Ampera> the same is not true for snow though, oddly enough
12:50:06 <Ampera> we'll get slammed with snow
12:50:41 <Ampera> The rain is good actually, it's been slow and steady, and has melted a lot of the snow that completely inundated us
12:50:53 <Ampera> so if there is a downpour I don't think there will be any serious flooding risk anymore
12:51:13 <electrohead> I live on a giant hill; if it floods directly where I live, something is wrong, lol
12:51:25 <Ampera> We also live on a hill, but half way up it
12:51:35 <Ampera> so while we're not gonna be underwater any time soon, our basement has flooded once or twice
12:51:53 <Ampera> not recently though, and we now have a sump pump which should handle any serious problems
13:18:21 * electrohead raids Ampera's fridge
13:18:26 <electrohead> what you got good? :p
13:18:35 <Ampera> a tub of taco meat
13:18:42 <Ampera> two boxes of pears
13:18:47 <Ampera> a pound of bacon
13:18:59 <Ampera> 20 large brown eggs
13:19:07 <Ampera> half a bag of mandarins
13:19:33 <Ampera> probably some other random shit I can't remember
13:19:45 <Ampera> most of the good stuff is pantry or frozen
13:20:05 * Ampera cracks electrohead on his electro head with a frozen duck
13:20:25 <electrohead> lol
13:21:38 <Ampera> I think I'll have those mandarins actually
13:21:42 <Ampera> you put the idea in my head
13:23:39 <Ampera> I also have some "egg" bagels that I could have sworn were onion bagels when I grabbed them at the store
13:23:52 <Ampera> I have no idea what an egg bagel is, but I guess I'll give it a try at some point
13:24:22 <electrohead> well, I helped :p
13:29:51 <Nothing\> neat
13:30:40 <Nothing\> despit the NES having a limit of 3 colors plus transparency for each sprite, super mario bros 2 managed to get 4 colors plus transparency
13:31:35 <Nothing\> though it wasn't the most elegant fix, they basically created seperate objects for their eye whites that waould be hidden behind the character except for behind the parts with transparency
13:42:30 <Nothing\> which was basically just anywhere from 1 to 3 pixes. BUt I so]ur
13:42:39 <Nothing\> i fell asleep in the middle of writing that
13:42:52 <Nothing\> not sure where i was going with it but it still felt it necessary to hit enter
13:43:19 <Nothing\> ah
13:44:06 <Nothing\> and the explaination for the multicolored bars on the right-hand side of SMB 3 is pretty interesting
14:06:36 <Nothing\> Ampera, got your cats' stockings and gifts all read for xmas?
14:07:26 <Nothing\> lol luci wound up stealing one of her presents from the grocery bag when I wasn't looking
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14:51:19 <Nothing\> i've decided my christmas present to myself torrow will be to shave my head again
14:51:34 <Nothing\> i didn' realize how damn famst my hair goir
14:51:42 <Nothing\> *grows
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15:35:42 <Kuschelpony> christmas greetings
15:36:05 <T3sl4> guten nacht
15:38:14 <electrohead> christmas needs to be over, already
15:40:00 <Kuschelpony> guten Morgen :)
15:41:06 <electrohead> hallo :)
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17:19:46 <Nothing\> merry christmas to those on the east coast and on mountain time <3
17:21:21 <Nothing\> frohlich weihnachten
17:27:59 <T3sl4> mc
17:28:07 * electrohead shakes it
17:28:28 * T3sl4 tosses some bills at electrohead
17:28:49 <electrohead> they better be 20's
17:28:51 <electrohead> lol
17:38:42 <steve30> hi
17:46:35 <electrohead> hey steve30
17:59:10 <Nothing\> alphabet = alpha + beta
17:59:20 <Nothing\> kevin rhymes with seven
17:59:26 <T3sl4> shut your gamma delta face
17:59:57 <Nothing\> T3sl4, you mu phier
18:01:50 <Nothing\> T3sl4, did i tell you i got 3 of the 4 mega man legacy packs?
18:02:01 <T3sl4> ah
18:02:08 <Nothing\> so i now own megaman 1-11 and X-X8
18:02:30 <Nothing\> wasn't sure about getting mega man zero, but i think i may
18:02:35 <T3sl4> on VC?
18:02:44 <Nothing\> on the switch
18:03:10 <Nothing\> i was just iffy about how GBA graphics would look scaled up to hi-def
18:04:08 <T3sl4> either filtered or blocky, depends on the game...
18:04:29 <T3sl4> worst is filtered and no option to turn it off, blocky is ok
18:04:33 <T3sl4> dunno what they used :P
18:04:36 <Nothing\> yeha they used filters for the SNES Mega Man X games and it actually looks pretty good
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18:21:06 <steve30> I just learnt the australian version of 12 days of christmas
18:21:06 <steve30> http://walelia.users1.50megs.com/carol.html
18:56:04 <Nothing\> steve30, I realized that song's just a guy giving a chick a bunch of birds, people various tolent and 5 gold rings
18:56:24 <Nothing\> *talents
19:11:38 <T3sl4> how do you know he's not giving a bird a bunch of chicks
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19:30:48 <Nothing\> true, it isn't exactly clear on WHO he's giving these gifts to
19:31:52 <Halcyon> Evening everyone
19:32:48 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:48:09 <Halcyon> How are you Steve?
19:57:32 <steve30> good ta
19:57:35 <steve30> just fooding
20:04:44 <Halcyon> I've had so much food today
20:04:49 * Halcyon feels fat
20:05:44 <steve30> i'm looking forward to christmas dinner later
20:06:08 * Halcyon slaps Steve around with his ham
20:08:22 * steve30 curls up in Halcyon's arms
20:08:49 <Halcyon> Aw cutie
20:10:05 <steve30> its sunny and cold her
20:10:06 <steve30> e
20:10:15 <Halcyon> It's rainy and 13 here
20:10:38 <steve30> aww
20:10:42 * steve30 passes Halcyon some sunshine
20:10:53 <Halcyon> The lawn is so green and lush
20:19:43 * steve30 has spent the morning fiddling with delicate electronics
20:21:18 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
20:33:04 <Halcyon> :)
20:37:39 <Halcyon> I still don't understand how Thames is pronounces "Temms"
20:37:56 <Halcyon> *pronounced
20:37:58 <steve30> me niether
20:38:00 <steve30> it just is
20:45:53 <T3sl4> it was named by dead speakers of a long dead english
20:46:24 <T3sl4> if there's something english is tolerant of, it's non-phonetic pronunciations
20:58:48 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/nmn5uspb47761.jpg
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21:40:36 <Halcyon> https://youtu.be/cTDlRb79q1k?t=1183
21:40:53 <Halcyon> They had a 320 MHz CPU in the 1980's?
21:42:36 <T3sl4> where did she say cpu
21:42:50 <Halcyon> True, she didn't
21:42:54 <Halcyon> The said "chip"
21:43:03 <T3sl4> probably it's a few NOR gates or a flip-flop, and if you don't mind that it dissipates 1 or 2W per part, you can run it that fast
21:43:19 <Halcyon> Hmm
21:43:22 <T3sl4> put together into a CPU, you get something like the liquid cooled Cray, which was what, 80MHz? GaAs NMOS?
21:43:36 <Halcyon> I thought it was faster?
21:43:53 <T3sl4> i dont remember
21:44:09 <T3sl4> fuck me it's cold in here
21:44:14 <T3sl4> this apartment is shit
21:44:16 <Halcyon> If you insist
21:44:23 * T3sl4 cuddles Halcyon for warmth
21:44:40 <Halcyon> When you said cold, how cold is it?
21:45:41 <Halcyon> The Y-MP could be equipped with two, four or eight vector processors, with two functional units each and a clock cycle time of 6 ns (167 MHz). Peak performance was thus 333 megaflops per processor. Main memory comprised 128, 256 or 512 MB of SRAM.
21:45:41 <Halcyon> Cray Y-MP Model D at NASA Center for Computational Sciences, GSFC
21:45:41 <Halcyon> The original Y-MP (otherwise known as the Y-MP Model D) was housed in a similar chassis to the horseshoe-shaped X-MP, but with an extra rectangular cabinet added in the middle (containing the CPU boards), thus forming a "Y" shape in plan view. The system could be configured with one or two Model D IOSs (Input/Output Subsystems) and an optional Solid State Disk (SSD) of 256 MB to 4GB capacity. The Y-MP had a measured GFLOPS o
21:45:42 <Halcyon> GFLOPS of 2.667 in both 1988 and 1989.[1]
21:45:43 <T3sl4> 19C on my desk, down to 16C underneath
21:45:55 <Halcyon> Good sleeping weather
21:46:01 <Halcyon> 19C isn't bad, that's nice
21:46:31 <Halcyon> Right now it's 20.3 degrees in here and I'm in shorts and a t-shirt
21:47:12 <T3sl4> well i'm wearing extra fleece pants and considering putting on a jacket
21:48:08 <T3sl4> ah there we go, as low as 14.7C in the draft just above the floor
21:48:16 <T3sl4> did i mention it's drafty too
21:48:46 * steve30 has the heating on
21:49:26 <T3sl4> the in-wall heater has been on nonstop since fall
21:49:39 <T3sl4> it's comfortable right in front of it
21:54:56 <Halcyon> Yeh the draft would make it feel cold
21:54:58 <Halcyon> The air is still here
21:55:10 <Halcyon> Although I will put the ducted air in fan mode when I go to bed
21:55:16 <Halcyon> I hate still air in my bedroom
22:13:00 <Halcyon> steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpp6-a3ckaM
22:13:02 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
22:14:27 <steve30> mmm
22:15:02 * steve30 curls up in Halcyon's blanket
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22:47:33 * T3sl4 mrows at Halcyon
22:54:54 * Halcyon offers T3sl4 some kibble
22:55:15 <T3sl4> is it heated?
22:55:48 * Halcyon microwaves it first
22:56:18 <Halcyon> Have you ever had crisps that have been in the oven?
22:56:40 <T3sl4> like, empty the bag onto a pan and freshen them up?
22:56:54 <T3sl4> can't say i have, but now that you mention it i should
22:57:17 <Halcyon> Throw them in a bowl and just heat at 100 C for 5-10 mins
22:57:21 <Halcyon> They are AMAZING
22:57:28 <Halcyon> Even just plain salted ones
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22:58:32 <Halcyon> It will honestly question why you've been eating crisps "cold" from the packet
22:59:47 <rust_collector> you city people... just wait until you get to taste crisps straight from the tree
23:00:18 <T3sl4> country rube, crisps don't grow on trees
23:00:20 <T3sl4> moneys do
23:01:14 <Halcyon> I need to visit the money tree
23:12:17 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
23:17:36 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera for warmth
23:17:44 * T3sl4 shudders
23:17:46 <T3sl4> brr
23:32:08 <K> y u so cold?
23:33:46 <K> stop it!
23:45:42 <steve30> christmas dinner is in the oven
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