// #eevblog — 2019-10-28
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06:36:50 <Halcyon_> Morning Steve :)
06:41:08 <T3sl4> the steve30 awakens
06:41:37 <T3sl4> wait, that'd be backwards Halcyon_
06:55:06 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon_
06:55:14 <Ampera> and yes, I did go to bed at the morning.
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08:30:36 * orbii looks about
08:36:45 <rust_collector> do you see anything interesting?
09:22:06 <orbii> pretty rarely
09:33:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @ToddBailey: Found this Kicad manual pick and place plugin and was floored -- there's nothing like it in Altium/Eagle; IT IS HOT FIRE FO…
09:46:37 * orbii eyes off the AMG CLA45S ..
10:09:13 <orbii> wish i were rich, but then i'd be not rich if i always spent it :/
10:09:13 <Halcyon> Heh
10:09:13 <Halcyon> I wish I could get this fucking network fixed
10:09:13 <orbii> oh? s'up?
10:09:13 <Halcyon> Long story short, I replaced the Ubiquiti Gen 1 cloudkey with a linux box. Instead of migrating the old config over (there was some stuff still from my old network which I don't use anymore), I started all over.
10:09:13 <Halcyon> I have untagged VLAN uplinks from a Cisco switch to the UBNT switch. Everything connected to the Cisco switch gets IP addresses etc... just fine on my .30 VLAN
10:09:13 <Halcyon> Everything on the UBNT switch doesn't get anything
10:09:13 <orbii> damn :/
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11:14:29 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @TheAmpHour: This week on the show @Chris_Gammell and @eevblog talk about designing and testing antennas, production moving out of China…
11:39:10 <steve30> hi
11:51:53 <T3sl4> hi steve30
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12:09:03 <steve30> morning
12:55:18 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Our good friend Meredith Perry of uBeam fame is now CEO of Elemind. She wants to control your brain. https://t.co/26qAHQyitK
12:57:19 <steve30> Brain Control.
12:57:20 <steve30> Meow :)
12:59:45 <ThunderSqueak> morning steve
13:00:41 <coppice> Interesting that she wants to control other brains, when she clearly can't control her own.
13:01:09 <Ampera> People often try to see in others what they cannot see in themselves.
13:01:20 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
13:02:15 * T3sl4 scritches ThunderSqueak
13:02:27 * ThunderSqueak curles up and purrs.
13:03:03 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 to warm up
13:08:05 <steve30> I should put some food on
13:11:05 * steve30 discreetly meows into T3sl4's brain
13:11:40 * T3sl4 's head resonates with an infernal call
13:12:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: A original Byte Shop Apple 1 for sale on Ebay, make an offer! https://t.co/HXUkVeHCfG
13:14:55 <steve30> I should make a coffee
13:15:46 <orbii> wonder who has a cool coupla mill spare.
13:16:47 * orbii cracks neck, sighs
13:17:06 <Ampera> if you keep doing that, orbii, you'll crack your neck straight off
13:17:13 <orbii> doubtful
13:17:23 <Ampera> you say that now
13:17:31 <orbii> ahuh
13:17:59 * Ampera strangles orbii with a mDP -> HDMI cable
13:18:05 * orbii shrugs
13:18:37 * steve30 downloads a copy of Debian 4 for PowerPC
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13:57:00 <steve30> should i get a VoIP number?
14:14:20 * steve30 needs a coffee
15:29:50 <T3sl4> oh
15:30:03 <T3sl4> i have plenty of tea, but i was at the grocery store today and forgot to refill my coffee supply
15:30:03 <T3sl4> rats
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15:50:28 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It almost looks real. #Fake @perthmint https://t.co/J8Gkayde5f
15:51:36 <steve30> :o
15:51:46 * steve30 passes T3sl4 some emergency coffee
15:51:55 <T3sl4> \o/
15:55:07 <Halcyon> Gah, this switch config is driving me nuts
15:55:37 <Halcyon> Orbii, I'm still no closer to getting this sorted. Untagged VLAN works fine between switches, tagged VLANs just go nowhere.
15:55:50 <Halcyon> Hey Amper
15:55:51 <Halcyon> a
15:55:53 <Halcyon> Ampera
15:58:18 <steve30> Its cold this morning
15:59:45 <T3sl4> brr
15:59:57 <T3sl4> go have a jog
16:00:01 <T3sl4> indoors, preferably :P
16:00:32 <steve30> Or maybe just a nice warm coffee :)
16:01:11 * T3sl4 nods
16:05:02 <T3sl4> hmm, slowly putting commands into this serial console thinger
16:06:06 <T3sl4> https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/Images/SerialConsole2.png
16:07:52 <steve30> Lacks a 'make steve30 a coffee' command
16:08:05 <T3sl4> :P
16:08:22 <T3sl4> the commands reside in a separate file and are linked by pointers, so it's somewhat more flexible than a huge if-else...
16:08:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And a tad underweight, by 0.65% https://t.co/fIEW720tgp
16:08:56 <T3sl4> not much more now to make it read and execute files from flash
16:09:09 <steve30> Why does Dave have fake gold?
16:13:05 <Ampera> steve30, a better question is why don't you have any?
16:14:46 <orbii> Halcyon: weird. wonder if the port isnt setup properly.
16:14:58 <orbii> what sort of ubnt switch?
16:15:08 <orbii> is the cisco side definitely set correctly? not an access port?
16:18:00 <Halcyon> Orbii: It's a one of the Unifi 16 port 150W POE jobbies
16:18:22 <Halcyon> The Cisco port is set up as a trunk with the native VLAN set to 10 (which is my management VLAN)
16:19:12 <Halcyon> Ideally I want the native VLAN set to 1 (which is unused) and have all VLANs as tagged, but if I change it now, I lose connection to the UBNT switch
16:20:17 <steve30> I prefer real gold :)
16:21:31 <T3sl4> golddigger]
16:23:25 <orbii> Halcyon: ES or US?
16:24:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1257 - MORE! $9 0.02% AIMO Process Calibrator https://t.co/lK9VAPQDWi
16:25:22 <Halcyon> International model
16:26:50 <orbii> not what i asked
16:27:03 <Halcyon> Sorry, I don't understand the question
16:27:20 <orbii> they have es-16-150w and us-16-150w
16:27:29 <Halcyon> Oh, the US model
16:27:29 <orbii> they're managed differently, and have cdifferent configuration methods
16:27:32 <orbii> k
16:27:43 <Halcyon> It's the Unifi switch
16:27:50 <orbii> yeah, cant stand those :/ .. cant really help :(
16:28:00 <orbii> i bought the ES cos fuck integrated switches
16:28:52 <Halcyon> Super bloody annoying
16:29:01 <Halcyon> The thing is, I had it working before I changed the controller over
16:29:10 <Halcyon> I don't know if its a firmware or a config thing
16:30:04 <Halcyon> I don't think I'm doing anything wrong though, everything says it should work
16:31:09 <orbii> that sucks
16:31:19 <orbii> it sounds like it aint trunking properly
16:31:40 <Halcyon> Yep, it sounds like it
16:31:45 <Halcyon> But there are bugger all options
16:31:54 <orbii> yeah
16:32:27 <Halcyon> I might do something else for a while, clear my head
16:33:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: EEVblog APPROVED! https://t.co/O6TGbeOAkX https://t.co/DlZr5sWqb4
16:34:21 <orbii> :(
17:02:43 <steve30> Central heating has come on :)
17:03:29 * steve30 purrs at the radiator
17:06:06 * Ampera forces air at steve30
17:11:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: LIKE if you think this looks like @mikelectricstuf https://t.co/mwvU2MVwID
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19:10:02 <Halcyon> Orbii: Can you "lend" me a Cisco POE switch from work to replace the ones I have :P
19:10:13 <Halcyon> I'll uhhh... burn it in for you
19:12:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @KamotsTalksTech: QPGA! None of that FPGA rubbish. https://t.co/gdsNnBoWES @eevblog @PBSSpaceTime
19:18:25 * Halcyon_ meows at Ampera
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19:45:16 <steve30> hi Halcyon_
20:09:23 <Halcyon_> Hey Steve :)
20:09:25 Nick: Halcyon_ is now known as Halcyon
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20:10:05 <Halcyon> I've started dabbling in VoIP for the first time in about 12 years
20:10:26 <Halcyon> Ordered a trunk for my business and just about to set up Asterisk/FreePBX
20:10:32 <steve30> Funny you should say that, i tried to get a VoIP number this morning
20:10:40 <Halcyon> "Tried" ?
20:11:08 <steve30> Yeah, the order form crapped out on me
20:11:28 <Halcyon> Oh no :(
20:11:58 <Halcyon> But it would be cool if you did, I could actually call you and it would cost me nothing
20:14:13 <steve30> Well, the number would be like calling a normal phone number, but I guess you could do some sort of VoIP to VoIP for free
20:14:42 <Halcyon> Yeh I have to work all that out I guess
20:15:18 <Halcyon> I get a number for free from my ISP but calls are charged
20:15:33 <Halcyon> 5c a minute though
20:15:40 <Halcyon> So hardly anything to really worry about
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20:28:28 <steve30> I installed Linphone earlier
20:28:54 <Halcyon> Is that a SIP phone?
20:29:23 <steve30> Software SIP phone
20:31:27 <steve30> I just made an account on their SIP server
20:33:25 <Halcyon> Ah nice, it's free?
20:33:34 <steve30> yeah
20:33:56 <Halcyon> I wonder if I can integrate it into Asterisk and use a physical handset with it to route calls out
20:38:46 <steve30> ok, now its crashing.
20:38:47 <steve30> oh well
20:41:16 * steve30 cuddles up to Halcyon instead
20:41:34 <Halcyon> Awww :)
20:45:56 <orbii> lol
20:46:03 <orbii> we dont really use cisco switches much
20:46:11 <Halcyon> HP ?
20:46:21 <orbii> mostly dell 'on' stuff
20:46:32 <orbii> with cumulus
20:46:58 <Halcyon> Ahh
20:47:08 <orbii> you can buy basic poe switches pretty cheap these days, though - even cisco
20:47:09 <Halcyon> Haven't used much of the Dell stuff lately (in the last 10 years)
20:47:22 <Halcyon> Yeh I have a dealer account with Dicker Data
20:47:30 <Halcyon> If I've going to buy new, I'm going 10 Gbit
20:47:42 <orbii> honestly, i havent had many issues with the es-16-160w, but that's cos i can ssh in and admin it ;)
20:47:52 <orbii> well, 10gbps and poe doesnt mix taht well
20:47:58 <Halcyon> You can do the same with the Unifi stuff too
20:48:05 <Halcyon> I just don't know their syntax
20:48:09 <orbii> not the same
20:48:29 <Halcyon> And I *know* this works without CLI as I've set it up before
20:48:34 <orbii> yeah
20:48:35 <Halcyon> I don't know what I'm doing different this time
20:48:38 <orbii> :(
20:49:12 <orbii> i have lots of cisco stuff in my personal lab, but no poe cisco
20:57:16 <steve30> I need to ring the physiotherapist
21:12:45 <steve30> Dammit, he's off, possibly till next week.
21:59:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: My Synology NAS networked drive (on Win 10) shows access granted for "Unix User\1206" Anyone know what that is? I don't have any Linux machines attached. https://t.co/rvNB99mGqS
22:11:35 <K> hello
22:11:35 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
22:11:44 <K> yay
22:12:16 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @dickfaber: because importing cheap stuff from overseas means we cant always guarantee the quality how can you tell the bad from the go…
22:32:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: When my reference cap was last inspected, we hadn't even walked on the moon... https://t.co/jltCZHoIhA
22:34:37 <Halcyon> I made *some* progress on the issues orbii
22:34:46 <Halcyon> But still have NFI
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23:50:51 <rust_collector> Halcyon: come here and replace a door for me (or my neighbor) and I will make dinner
23:52:16 <rust_collector> I hate doors, because they are always nice and straight, but the wall pretty much never is
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