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20:13 <Nothing\> ahoy ahoy
20:21 <Nothing\> i got myself a new toy :D
20:28 <Nothing\> http://i.imgur.com/bLWNGaU.jpg
21:59 <Nothing\> decided i'm gonna set up a lab for myself here, a real lab not just a bunch of TV tables loaded with counterfeit chinese electronics
23:59 <Nothing\> spent a bit more on this thing than i planned, but i figure it's worth it for the 2nd channel and twice the bandwidth
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19:37 <Ampera> hullo Nothing\
21:28 <Nothing\> hey man, how's it going?
27:55 <Ampera> Nothing\, anywhere from horrific to alright
28:18 <Ampera> I believe I had a rapid manic episode a couple nights ago.
28:41 <Nothing\> those are fun, at least until it starts screwing with your sleep
28:55 <Nothing\> i always like hypomania cuz it makes me more productive, plus i feel super great for no reason at all
28:56 <Ampera> where my mood swang dramatically from incredibly angry (hypermania) to crying in bed sad (hypomania) to incredibly depressed (manic depression)
29:02 <Nothing\> like i'm god's gift to the world
29:18 <Ampera> No this was a more acute situation, incredibly violent, incredibly intense, and incredibly fast.
29:45 <Ampera> It resulted in me not sleeping the night before last night, and being up for 36 hours straight.
30:05 <Ampera> and reading a lot of really dark fucking stories
30:10 <Nothing\> ah, no hypomania is just a less severe form of mania, which is basically where you feel great for no reason, less need for sleep and food, more energy, talk endlessly, the difference between hypomania and mania is with mania one tends to go so far off the deep end that you lose touch with reality and get delusions of grandeur or full blown psychosis
30:22 <Nothing\> although hypo/mania can cause aggression as well
30:31 <Nothing\> actually that's a pretty common thing, come to think of it
30:52 <Ampera> My grandfather and aunt (who live together) are both acute cases of bipolar.
30:57 <Nothing\> you may have been experiencing a mixed episode, with bipolar disorder even rapid cycling the episodes tend to last days or weeks rather than hours
31:15 <Ampera> Well the thing is I'm 100% sure whatever it was, was stress induced.
31:18 <Nothing\> of course i'm no shrink so take that as you will
31:27 <Ampera> since I have been dealing with levels of pure negative stress and anxiety higher than I ever have in my life.
31:37 <Nothing\> that's fucked up man
31:42 <Ampera> I also got into an argument in a friend about it and started tearing him the fuck apart before he banned me from the channel
31:52 <Nothing\> i know that feeling, makes you feel trapped and desperate for a way out
31:56 <Ampera> so my conclusion is that I have mild bipolar being triggered by stress.
32:02 <Ampera> exactly
32:27 <Ampera> Talking with my grandfather he thinks it's fairly possible, bipolar is experienced differently by different people, including the length and severity of an episode.
32:53 <Nothing\> that's the tricky thing, everyone's different
33:04 <Nothing\> which for some reason the dsm doesn't seem to take into account
33:05 <Ampera> What is particularly concerning is that my grandfather was very similar to me. He was incredibly smart, but ended up going nowhere because of bipolar depression that manifested exactly when he was my age.
33:25 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i really should go through the DSM-V, i meant to when it first came out but haven't bothered yet
33:30 <Ampera> My aunt too, incredibly smart, shot in the foot by bipolar, though she also had schizophrenia
33:47 <Ampera> Schizophenia being what my grandmother had.
34:35 <Nothing\> i have bipolar in my family too, my shrinks and i thought i might be as well but the more i think about it the more i think it may be OCD, or maybe a combination of the two
34:53 <Ampera> maybe it's all of the above, maybe it's none
34:58 <Nothing\> bipolar need not be a curse though, like i said when you get hypomanic episodes, it can be the most productive time of your life
35:05 <Ampera> that's the issue with people who try to deal with mental disorders, no matter how hard you try, there are no rules
35:16 <Nothing\> and provide you with insight and creativity the likes of which no "normal" person could dream
35:30 <Nothing\> a lot of famous artists and celebrities and scientists were bipolar
35:48 <Nothing\> off the top of my head, i know stephen fry is bipolar, he actually made a pretty good documentary about that
35:49 <Ampera> The issue is it's nowhere near reliable, with hypomania and depressions being incredibly long and even life-threatening, like my grandfather's
36:08 <Nothing\> yeah that's the problem, it's not exactly something you have control over
36:14 <Ampera> No I don't doubt bipolar people are incredibly intelligent, it's just that it's not a blessing even if it's not a curse.
36:30 <Nothing\> why can't it be both?
36:32 <Ampera> Still, I'm content in believing it's very mild if I do have it.
36:42 <Ampera> you and your zoroastrianism, Nothing\
36:56 <Nothing\> lol i was actually a gnostic for a short time
37:23 <Ampera> zoroastrianism isn't agnosticism, it's a religion with gods, practices, and beliefs
37:25 <Ampera> including heaven and hell
38:07 <Ampera> it's the theological predecessor to Christianity, Islam, and some forms of Judaism, with the idea of satan and hell being taken directly from Zoroastrianism via cultural diffusion
38:26 <Nothing\> nah not agnostic, gnostic
38:28 <Nothing\> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnosticism
38:33 <Ampera> what
38:35 <Nothing\> not sure how closely related it is to zoroastrianism though
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39:04 <Ampera> welp
39:06 <Nothing\> i still retain some of the beliefs of it, like no man can ever truly know or understand god
39:25 <Ampera> I have some theological beliefs, more to comfort me than anything else.
39:30 <Nothing\> been gravitating away from abrahamic religions
39:33 <Ampera> Honestly they might be actually kinda dangerous for me to believe in.
39:52 <Ampera> Theology in general is fun, but for me from a distance in the context of philosophy and history.
40:14 <Nothing\> you know, i actually worried about that a lot when i found god, that i was losing my mind and it was all the result of some sort of psychosis
40:20 <Ampera> Personally I (wished it was true so I believe) that upon my death I will be able to choose a different life, one where I am happy with the problems that I must deal with, the body I inhabit, and the person I am.
40:48 <Ampera> I disagree on if I can simply move bodies, do what I wish with the world from a omnipotent scale, not that it matters.
40:49 <Nothing\> while there's really no way for me to know one way or the other, so far it's yet to lead me astray and in fact it's improved my life beyond anything i've been able to achieve beforehand
41:13 <Ampera> it's really just a manifestation of me wishing I was someone else and probably trying to justify my suicide.
42:26 <Nothing\> well with me, it was a matter of no matter how hard i tried to ignore it, it was apparent that there's SOMETHING there, but the more i think about it the more i realize i'll probably never understand what it is, at least in this lifetime
43:24 <Nothing\> christianity made it very confusing because you tend to associate christian beliefs and dogma with what god represents, but that's not necessarily the case at all
43:34 <Nothing\> i found once you separate god from christianity it makes a lot more sense
44:03 <Ampera> I don't believe in god, I believe the world operates on its own logic and principles, as if it were a huge rube goldberg machine just going through the motions.
44:09 <Nothing\> i think that's why there are so many agnostic people
44:40 <Nothing\> i've toyed with the idea that god could have set the initial conditions of the universe and just let everything play out
44:50 <Ampera> If you believe in the idea that god is a concept, not a person, then I could concede that the universe and its rules is in and of itself the concept of god.
45:02 <Ampera> one people have tried to explain by using the form of man to fill it.
45:04 <Nothing\> well god is certainly not a person
45:28 <Nothing\> but yeah that's another issue with it, since we really have no way of understanding god we try to compare him to things we can relate to, ie ourselves
46:55 <Ampera> I think John Lennon was fairly accurate with the notion is that god is the means by which we measure our pain.
48:11 <Nothing\> well you need not turn to god just in light of suffering, i often turn to god simply to express gratitude for the things i have and to help me not take things for granted
48:47 <coppice> god was created to have someone to blame
48:54 <Ampera> lol
49:02 <Nothing\> coppice: i thought that was the scapegoat lol
49:10 <Ampera> That's what I mean coppice, it's how people use to deal with when things go wrong.
49:22 <Nothing\> i can see that
50:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, as with so many things, concepts can be expressed as a function of other concepts. In essence that's using god to avoid the pain of being unable to feel gratitude, or being unable to value or treasure things.
50:43 <Nothing\> i think it's more an outlet for my gratitude rather than being unable to feel gratitude
50:54 <Nothing\> it's not so much i can't feel gratitude without it, it's more that i just forget to
51:09 <coppice> the idea of a loving god came very late in human development. Most gods were created as total assholes
51:10 <Ampera> That's my point. You not feeling gratitude is pain.
51:19 <Ampera> You use the concept and idea of god to prevent and avoid that pain.
51:36 <Nothing\> it's easy to get caught up in life and forget that having a roof over your head and food in your stomach isn't some inherent right that we're automatically entitled to
51:46 <Ampera> coppice, god is also how the means by which the few control the many.
52:07 <Nothing\> Ampera: that's for sure, but that doesn't mean those people represent god in the least bit
52:14 <Nothing\> they just usurp his name for their own gain
52:49 <Nothing\> which is why i think atheism has become so prevelant, a lot of people are catching on to that, but they think what the church represents is what god stands for
53:04 <Nothing\> or one of the reasons it has anyways, obviously it's a complicated matter with many causes
53:06 <coppice> Ampera: I agree with that, but I can also see Marx's view that religion is a opiate created by the populous has some merit
53:14 <Ampera> I am atheist because I do not need the concept of a religion to guide me through life.
53:24 <Ampera> I'd rather live my life as I go, and not have to dedicate time to something I do not want to.
53:39 <Nothing\> coppice: i've always been curious about how the idea of religion started in the first place
53:56 <Ampera> coppice, it's both. The few use the pain suffered by the many and offer them a relief that they will provide via their control.
54:05 <Ampera> It's the same exact reason drug companies are so fucking rich.
54:34 <coppice> there is also a lot of merit in the idea that when people stop believing in god they'll believe in even worse BS
56:20 <Nothing\> coppice: yeah people certainly don't need religion to be moral, if anything organized religion seems to make people do more immoral things in the name of their religion
57:31 <coppice> clearly the origin of religion is not to create moral frameworks. as I said before the older gods are total assholes
58:19 <Nothing\> yeah there's some messed up stuff in the old testament
58:33 <Nothing\> you ever hear how the story of Lot ended?
58:39 <Nothing\> nobody ever seems to mention that part
59:03 <coppice> christians seem to assume god to be a loving god. I can't remember ever being shown a passage in the bible where god claims to a good guy
59:07 <Nothing\> apparently after his wife turned into a pillar of salt, his daughters got him drunk and had sex with him
59:18 <Nothing\> coppice: oh there are, even in the old testament
59:21 <Nothing\> there are a lot of them
59:26 <Nothing\> especially in psalms
59:43 <coppice> psalms are just poems. they are not claims by god
00:05 <Nothing\> yeah i'm not sure how that works
00:38 <coppice> most of the good stuff is narrative, not actual "god said this" things
01:17 <coppice> it reads just like a dictatorship, where everyone is too fearful to be honest
01:19 <Nothing\> yeah that's what i noticed, it doesn't seem that much, if any of the bible was actually straight from god, except maybe the moses stuff off the top of my head
01:34 <Nothing\> i noticed that too, actually
03:33 <coppice> and some of the better stuff in the new testament looks like someone copy and pasted it in from the writings of Buddah
04:27 <Nothing\> i've been meaning to read about Buddhism for some time but never get past the 4 noble truths and 8 fold path
04:43 <Nothing\> it seems like it has some genuinely good concepts in it
05:51 <Nothing\> i read about those buddhist monks who mummified themselves while they were still alive, that had to take same serious devotion (or mental illness)
06:47 <coppice> there's plenty of deranged behaviour like that among followers of every religion
06:51 <Nothing\> to starve yourself for years, then slowly poison yourself while being starved and dehydrated to death locked in a bare 1^3 meter stone block sitting in a lotus position meditating until the moment you die, that's hardcore
07:13 <Nothing\> *barely
08:04 <Nothing\> i guess buddhists have done some pretty horrible stuff too
08:49 <coppice> any people who only did good stuff aren't around any more
09:32 <Nothing\> yeah it seems the immoral ones get by much easier
10:17 <Nothing\> and history's written by the ones who succeed/survive
10:29 <coppice> is it immoral to do what it takes to survive?
10:55 <coppice> the problem is surviving takes some brutal actions
11:02 <Nothing\> to survive? no, probably not. unless it interferes with the survival of someone else, then it's debatable but totally subjective
11:42 <Nothing\> but in many cases it's not a matter of survival but more a matter of excess, at least with rulers and the upper class
12:32 <coppice> rulers who engage in excess tend not to be around, either. excess is just too inefficient to last
13:36 <Nothing\> it's just not sustainable
13:48 <coppice> if you look at empires which lasted they aren't very nice, but they aren't blindly bloodthirsty and brutal either
13:55 <Nothing\> which makes me wonder how the hell the kim dynasty's been getting away with it for so long, at least before they got nuclear weapons
14:42 <Nothing\> maybe their alliance with the soviet union and risk of the cold war going hot kept america and the south from doing anything
14:47 <coppice> kim hasn't been around that long, and they've been in the middle of a global game isolating them from the kind of things that would final break the regime
15:06 <Nothing\> they've been around almost 70 years now
15:31 <Nothing\> i guess north korea's a unique situation too in how isolated they are and how heavily the population's been brainwashed
15:34 <coppice> without being played by outsiders they would have collapsed long ago
15:59 <Nothing\> though that seems to be changing with western media leaking into the country through flash drives and cell phones and such
16:09 <coppice> they are one of the last remanents of the cold war
16:20 <Nothing\> a lot more people are starting to realize life outside of north korea isn't as bad as what they've been told
16:36 <coppice> I suspect most people knew that all along
16:49 <Nothing\> i remember that guy who escaped from camp 14 said one reason nobody ever tried to escape was because they were all led to believe life outside of the camp was even worse
17:02 <Nothing\> since most of them were born inside the camp to begin with
18:51 <Nothing\> yeah it's really hard to say because people report each other for thought crimes so there would be a lot of suspicion and paranoia in regards to questioning the regime
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53:38 <cheater> hi
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43:21 * Halcyon_ paws at Ampera
43:26 <Ampera> HALCYON
43:27 <Ampera> HOW DO
43:32 <Halcyon_> *stretches*
43:35 <Halcyon_> I'm good, just got up
43:36 <Halcyon_> You?
43:44 <Ampera> Good just came back from the chinese buffet
43:50 <Halcyon_> Mmmm MSG
44:02 <Ampera> Well, funny you mention MSG
44:05 <Ampera> because my mom ordered some water
44:10 <Ampera> and the water they gave her tasted of bleach
44:21 <Halcyon_> What the?
44:22 <Ampera> proper bathroom cleaner chemicals, like someone just scooped it out of a urinal with extra cake
45:01 <Halcyon_> Wow
45:09 <Halcyon_> What kind of place did you go to?
45:11 <Ampera> We've been going to this place for maybe 10 years at this point. They're normally pretty good and clean.
45:19 <Ampera> They also gave her a new water, and it tasted fine
47:26 <Halcyon_> Can you do me a favour
47:59 <Ampera> Yes, sorry you said you had a computer question
48:00 <Halcyon_> Can you do an nslookup or similar on vpn.cyanlabs.com.au and let me know what IP address its reporting back
48:10 <Ampera> yeah standby
48:22 <Halcyon_> Yessum, just trying to get something going first
48:30 <Ampera> 203.129.25.161
48:34 <Ampera> no response from server
48:40 <Ampera> (pinging it)
48:52 <Halcyon_> Yeh you won't get a response, I'm blocking pings
49:08 <Halcyon_> Its the right IP. I can't get Cloudflare to recognise the domain properly
49:57 <Ampera> k
50:15 <Halcyon_> So the question was, have you had much experience with LDAP/RADIUS ?
50:33 <Ampera> No, let me wikipedia those, as they sound familiar
50:48 <Halcyon_> Oh well you probably won't be able to help me much then
51:05 <Ampera> you hosting a VPN?
51:14 <Halcyon_> I want to set up an LDAP server to do "single username" auth on a bunch of my servers, instead of having seperate logins for everything
51:22 <Halcyon_> I don't fancy running Microsoft Active Directory
51:34 <Ampera> Yeah I'd be about as helpful as you would be to yourself.
51:36 <Halcyon_> Yep, I have site-to-site VPNs to my mates and I have a tunnel for myself
51:56 <Ampera> Networking is something I'm not as good at as I should be.
52:16 <Halcyon_> I'm just trying to get Letsencrypt certs working, but because Cloudflare DNS still thinks my domain has the old nameservers set up, it's failing
52:51 <Ampera> You remind me, I used Mozilla's website security checker and got told I suck
52:56 <Ampera> so I have to go and figure out why that is
53:01 <Halcyon_> OK could you run another test... try and resolve time.cyanlabs.com.au
53:03 <Halcyon_> It SHOULD fail
53:18 <Ampera> failed
53:32 <Halcyon_> OK good, let me try one more thing... standby
54:00 <Halcyon_> Alrighty, can you try ampera.cyanlabs.com.au, it should also fail
54:22 <Ampera> resolves to 8.8.8.8 (google DNS)
54:25 <Halcyon_> Fark
54:30 <Halcyon_> That's bad
54:36 * Ampera flings a good 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 at Halcyon_ 
55:05 <Halcyon_> This means that despite me adding Cloudflare NS records in to my registrar, it's ignoring them
55:10 <Halcyon_> FFS
55:14 <Ampera> TTL?
55:28 <Ampera> did you account for TTL?
55:43 <Ampera> Halcyon_,
56:12 <Halcyon_> TTL?
56:16 <Halcyon_> OIh
56:18 <Halcyon_> Time to Live
56:19 <Halcyon_> Yes
56:20 <Ampera> Aye
56:29 <Halcyon_> I made these changes last night, I just found out why it didn't work
56:33 <Ampera> ah
57:12 <Halcyon_> Even though I updated the zone records, there is another page with the name server delegation and they didn't get updated for some weird reason
58:16 <Ampera> Yeah idk
59:18 <Halcyon_> OK, this should have fixed it. I'll have to wait for it to propegate now
59:21 <Halcyon_> Thanks for helping :-)
00:15 <Halcyon_> Alrighty, can you flush your DNS cache and try the ampera address again
00:59 <Ampera> Resolves to 8.8.8.8, I do not have a DNS cache
01:10 <Ampera> though I'd wait a few minutes for the TTL to elapse
01:25 <Halcyon_> Seems to be working this end now. Yeh could just be a delay.
01:48 <Ampera> I'm on cloudflare DNS
02:06 <Halcyon_> Cloudflare recognises the change now
02:20 <Ampera> still 8.8.8.8, but yeah good
04:54 <Halcyon_> Can you do one more test for me?
05:09 <Ampera> still 8.8.8.8
05:14 <Halcyon_> In a browser, just go to http://cloud.cyanlabs.com.au
05:17 <Ampera> oh
05:18 <Halcyon_> Oh yeh don't worry about thaty
05:29 <Halcyon_> Do you get a login prompt?
05:55 <Ampera> No response.
05:59 <Halcyon_> Hmmm
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07:55 <Halcyon> Stupid NBN
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11:38 <Halcyon> Just for shits and giggles Ampera, try http://203.129.25.161
11:47 <Ampera> Nope.
11:57 <Halcyon> Fark
11:59 <Halcyon> WHYYY
14:10 <Ampera> Yay now my site has HSTS!
14:16 <Halcyon> OK, could you try once more, I think I had the firewall rules all messed up
14:36 <Ampera> Still no.
14:40 <Halcyon> Oh FFS, I give up
14:42 <Halcyon> What's HSTS?
14:53 <Ampera> It forces all connecting services to authenticate only using TLS
14:59 <Halcyon> Ah nice
16:22 <Ampera> So if you go to http://amperaa.net/cdn/ it will force you to https://
16:38 <Ampera> it used to only do this on my forum, nowhere else
16:40 <Halcyon> It didn't appear to
16:47 <Halcyon> Still HTTP on this end
17:08 <Ampera> Forces it to HTTPS for me
17:24 <Halcyon> Browser on this end says "Connection not encrypted" and still goes to HTTP
17:33 <Ampera> huh
17:34 <Ampera> lemme try opera
17:39 <Halcyon> That was Firefox
17:44 <Halcyon> I'll try Opera
17:55 <Halcyon> Opera says the same
18:15 <Ampera> Firefox gives me a green padlock and redirects me
18:24 <Halcyon> *shrug*
18:29 <Ampera> Opera doesn't
18:37 <Ampera> but still lets me navigate
19:06 <Ampera> maybe Opera doesn't respect HSTS
19:09 <Halcyon> I even tried my phone browser, it still goes to insecure
19:10 <Ampera> alright let me try something else, standby
19:15 <Halcyon> I tried 3 browsers
19:27 <Ampera> so did I
19:37 <Ampera> Try again
20:08 <Halcyon> Same resul
20:09 <Halcyon> t
20:20 <Ampera> It works perfectly for me
20:24 <Ampera> Try https://amperaa.net
20:44 <Halcyon> Yep, works fine
20:53 <Ampera> but not http://amperaa.net/cdn
21:02 <Halcyon> Now it does
21:03 <Halcyon> *shrug*
21:06 <Ampera> alright then
21:09 <Ampera> well hold on
21:59 <Ampera> try again
22:37 <Halcyon> It seems to be working now
22:49 <Ampera> issue is my ZNC panel isn't
23:01 <Ampera> which isn't a /huge/ deal, but still annoying
24:29 <Ampera> I'll just give my ZNC the right certs
28:47 <Halcyon> Ahh my ISP blocks ports 80 and 443 inbound by default
28:50 <Halcyon> (among others)
29:02 <Ampera> My ISP only blocks the email port (was it 23?)
29:04 <Ampera> which is annoying
29:40 <Halcyon> 25
29:45 <Halcyon> https://www.aussiebroadband.com.au/help-centre/nbn/tech-support/port-blocking/
30:42 <Halcyon> They are unblocking them for me
32:29 <Halcyon> Can you try http://cloud.cyanlabs.com.au again for me
38:45 <Ampera> Cert is invalid.
39:21 <Ampera> date is valid though
39:22 <Ampera> so idk
39:32 <Ampera> There is a login prompt though
40:28 <Ampera> gonna bring my ZNC down, standby.
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48:03 <Ampera> http://amperaa.net:2186 Halcyon_ can you navigate here and confirm HSTS
50:30 <Ampera> ah, so the HSTS requests don't work on there unless I've visited my original site
50:31 <Ampera> which is okay
50:44 <Ampera> since it doesn't respond to clear HTTP
56:37 <Halcyon_> Yeh it works
57:59 <Ampera> Yeah since you'd have connected to my main website with HSTS before
58:15 <Ampera> anyways mozilla still refuses to acknowledge I have HSTS and claims I have an invalid certificate chain
58:21 <Ampera> so I've done what I could, I consider that good enough
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40:03 <Halcyon> Meow
40:05 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
40:07 <Halcyon> Do you know PHP?
42:12 <Halcyon> Or T3sl4
42:38 * T3sl4 scritches Halcyon on the head
42:59 * Halcyon 's leg jiggles
43:00 <T3sl4> not particularly, no :P
43:47 <Halcyon> Dammit
49:19 <Ampera> Nope either
49:22 <Ampera> my dad knows a little
50:09 <Halcyon> I don't suppose he is able to have a look at something for me?
51:33 <Ampera> not right now since he is sleeping
51:34 <Ampera> what is it
52:06 <Halcyon> I need to edit an existing config file but it has all these arrays in there, which I don't understand. I just need to add some parameters but I don't know where in the file to place them
59:38 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RED ALERT! @thunderf00t https://t.co/IvLrDfsF1S
59:46 <Halcyon> I'll give it a shot, hopefully I don't break anything
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07:09 <Halcyon> YAY it worked
07:12 <Halcyon> I'm a leet haxor
23:33 <Ampera> Alright cool
24:01 <Ampera> I'm doing TLS and security things. My ZNC now properly supports TLS, so HexChat won't complain about it if I try to connect without allowing it to accept invalid certs
27:29 <Halcyon> yay!
30:34 <Ampera> Also my site now has a B rating from Mozilla: https://observatory.mozilla.org/analyze/amperaa.net
30:43 <Ampera> Up from the F rating it had before
06:59 <T3sl4> oh nice, i just added headers to go from F to A+
07:34 <T3sl4> apparently they give a bonus score for CSP by header??
11:33 <Halcyon> Woot
12:04 <T3sl4> oh, i was overly zealous and that breaks inline stuff, i see
12:06 <Halcyon> Mines a B+, not that I really care. It works.
12:37 <Ampera> The issue is my site runs SMF and doesn't work for CSP
12:45 <Ampera> that being said I haven't tried the header, I should go at least do that
12:48 <Halcyon> Oh no, A+ woot
15:21 <Ampera> Yeah that breaks my site
19:09 <T3sl4> oh that's weird... why does a short script work on one page, but all the calculator pages are broken?
25:44 <T3sl4> oh, probably because it was cached
25:57 <T3sl4> meh, unsafe-inline is fine, gets me a B+
52:33 <steve30> morning
56:40 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
03:42 * steve30 hugs T3sl4 
06:07 <steve30> I saw a CRT monitor in a skip last week.
35:15 <ServalSpots> If it's not currently on your bench being recapped and repaired I'll be sorely disapointed
35:35 <ServalSpots> I'll be even more disappointed if it was already in fine working order, but not at you :P
37:24 <steve30> I went past said skip on a bike. Couldn't really pick it up and bring it with me
38:45 <ServalSpots> Ah, well then a reprieve is granted and a tear is shed
38:58 <ServalSpots> So how's the steve30 been in general?
39:53 <steve30> I had a good sleep. I've been busy doing lots of work around the house and it made me tired.
40:08 <ServalSpots> Also, how's the Halcyon been? I only recently realized I screwed up weechat and wasn't logging in here, and I've been rather occupied that last couple months. Not sure when I last spoke in here
40:46 <steve30> Halcyon got himself a bird
41:17 <ServalSpots> Ah, I think I would be in the same boat had my work not upset my back so much. Too much pain to be tired, as I'm sure you understand
41:37 <ServalSpots> Oh? I hope he didn't spend money on a parrot being unaware of the echo command...
42:23 <steve30> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/eevblog-pets/
45:28 <ServalSpots> Haha, great pic as well. I was unaware of this thread, I'll have too give it a look in full when I have the chance
05:02 * steve30 finishes off yesterday's thai takeaway
13:57 * steve30 hugs ServalSpots 
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13:19 <T3sl4> meow! https://i.imgur.com/2nDFH3h.jpg
16:20 <T3sl4> steve30: mmm, thai-keaway
23:09 <steve30> looks cosy
25:10 <steve30> I have to go and do Mrs Davies' garden this morning. Fortunately its a nice day.
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37:07 <Halcyon> Hey ServalSpots, been good
37:09 <Halcyon> :-)
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