// #eevblog — 2019-10-13
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00:01:08 <Ampera> oh nice ServalSpots is back
00:01:08 <Ampera> how do
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01:45:56 <rust_collector> steve31: ?
01:55:30 <steve31> yes
01:56:44 <rust_collector> I am looking at a long thread about power supplies.... And you (I guess) show a box with a brown lid, and some banana jacks. What is in that thing?
01:57:17 <steve31> Does it have the dangling LED panel meters? Or is it just plain?
01:58:04 <rust_collector> just plain. http://stevecoates.net/avo/AVO3.jpg
01:59:04 <steve31> ah
01:59:35 <steve31> back then it was a 78H05 for the 5V output, a 7660 for the -5V, and a zener diode + a 2N3055 for the 24V out
02:01:16 <rust_collector> ah. I just like how small and neat it looks
02:01:24 <rust_collector> or did, I guess
02:05:36 <steve31> hmm, a circa 2006 Amazon box just broke and spilled the kitchen tiles which were in it.
02:07:41 <rust_collector> Mom had a thing for laying tiles, some time ago. I still have boxes full of the damn things in the basement. I am not sure, but I guess dropping them on the floor would be an option
02:11:51 <rust_collector> heh, I also have that roofing tar paper stuff, from the house was built in -82 -83. We have replaced all of the roof, but I still have those "as a spare" for some reason
02:14:34 <steve31> Do Amazon still do "Free Super Saver Delivery" ?
02:15:09 <rust_collector> I have no idea. I have never used amazon for anything
02:16:23 <rust_collector> https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/help/id=ssd
02:16:37 <rust_collector> It looks like maybe?
02:19:29 <steve31> I don't actually use amazon. I was just wondering if they still used the name Super Saver Delivery
02:20:32 <rust_collector> it does sound very nice and good
02:47:24 <Ampera> Amazon does not.
02:47:42 <Ampera> They have replaced it with a different service which is effectively prime grade shipping for orders over a certain amount.
02:47:51 <Ampera> They simply call it free shipping.
02:48:19 <rust_collector> perfect
03:08:09 <rust_collector> heh, I am looking at the tracking for a package I bought on ebay. It was shipped on the 29th, and estimated to arrive here on the 3rd of february
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04:06:35 <Nothing\> ah man i'm lovin this new scope
04:06:53 <Nothing\> i think i spent all day yesterday just mucking about with a 555 and an RC circuit
04:08:06 <Nothing\> seems the 555 is being affected by inductance on the board though, i figured capacitance would have been more of an issue but i get these spikes where the voltage changes direction, so i'm pretty certain that's the inductance doing that
04:08:14 <Nothing\> when i zoom in i can see it's ringing
04:08:30 <Nothing\> could be both actually, if it's ringing
04:09:00 <rust_collector> what new scope?
04:09:43 <Nothing\> http://i.imgur.com/bLWNGaU.jpg
04:10:03 <Nothing\> it was a bit more than i wanted to spend, but for a second channel and twice the bandwidth, i think it was worth it
04:10:05 <rust_collector> oooh, fancy
04:10:25 <Nothing\> yeah it sure beats that $20 kit that i was using before
04:10:51 <rust_collector> I still want one of those kits, lol
04:11:16 <rust_collector> well, probably a dso150, and not the 138, but either would be ok
04:11:20 <Nothing\> dude you should get one, they have better ones now and even though they're shoddy, they're better than nothing
04:11:25 <Nothing\> yeah i have the 138 and it's awful
04:11:40 <rust_collector> nah, it is just very annoying to use
04:11:41 <Nothing\> like, the frequency it shows will change whenever you change the timebase
04:11:45 <Nothing\> yeah that too
04:11:55 <rust_collector> I had one
04:11:58 <Nothing\> i didn't trust any of the measurements other than the vague shape of a waveform
04:12:19 <Nothing\> plus the probes are just bare wires so it picks up mains noise like crazy
04:12:45 <rust_collector> that is all I used it for. ran off a 9v battery, and I could bring it with me under cars, and such
04:13:10 <rust_collector> it did ok for stuff like abs sensors and stuff
04:13:15 <Nothing\> ah nice, yeah i was actually thinking i'd like to check the 120v inverter built into my mom's car and see how good a waveform it produces
04:13:42 <rust_collector> heh.
04:14:20 <Nothing\> the 12v from the cigarette lighter should just come straight from the battery, wouldn't it?
04:14:31 <rust_collector> it depends
04:14:40 <Nothing\> ah, so it might be worthwhile checking that too
04:15:08 <rust_collector> well, ie yes, but it could have switches and stuff, but I do not think they do anything weird to the power there
04:15:30 <Nothing\> ah yeah i wouldn't imagine they'd have to do anything to it
04:16:36 <Nothing\> this scope's pretty self explanatory too, i was able to figure most of it out without needing the manual, other than the basics like adjusting the probes and the self calibration
04:16:52 <Nothing\> i never would have known to adjust the probes if i didn't look that up
04:16:56 <rust_collector> have you looked at the output of an alternator before?
04:17:33 <Nothing\> sort of lol, i took apart a space heater and hooked the AC motor up to my crappy scope and spun up the fan to generate a voltage
04:17:38 <Nothing\> not quite the same though
04:17:48 <Nothing\> really though, no i haven't
04:18:17 <rust_collector> ok, just wondering. I don't think I have either
04:18:24 <Nothing\> actually i was just thinking, how does the alternator get spun up in the first place when the car starts up?
04:18:44 <rust_collector> how it "powers up?"
04:18:49 <Nothing\> yeah
04:19:25 <rust_collector> battery, and or some residual magnetism from the last time it ran
04:19:41 <Nothing\> ah
04:20:13 <Nothing\> see i never really knew much about the workings of cars, but once i learned how an ignition coil works and the distributor it really piqued my curiosity about the electric stuff in it
04:21:55 <rust_collector> distributor... yes, I remember those.
04:22:14 <Nothing\> haha yeah i guess it's all computers now, apparently that's one reason why cars are so much more fuel efficient
04:22:21 <Nothing\> that timing has to be pretty spot on
04:22:32 <Nothing\> when you consider that, it's pretty amazing they were able to do it without computers
04:22:35 <rust_collector> nah, the efficient ones are diesels, lol
04:23:15 <Nothing\> i found a really good engineering channel the other day that had a video on how cars achieve better fuel efficiency, it was pretty interesting
04:23:36 <rust_collector> but yes, it is still the "same" engines as they had before, just a lot of tweaking, and the "on the fly" tuning
04:23:58 <Nothing\> wow wtf
04:24:07 <Nothing\> i just logged into my youtube account i never use for anything
04:24:21 <Nothing\> for some reason it's subbed to pewdiepie, i've never subbed to anything on that account EVER
04:24:53 <rust_collector> oreally......?
04:24:55 <Nothing\> that's like on my e-store account on my switch, they keep adding new releases to my wishlist without me telling them
04:25:46 <rust_collector> hacker squirrels ordering nuts every month... yes, sure
04:25:49 <Nothing\> heh apparently alex jones has been banned from youtube
04:26:00 <Nothing\> oh man those squirrels are going nuts lately over the peanuts
04:26:36 <Nothing\> two of them were fighting earlier and the one climbed up on the table out there and pounced on top of the other one like a wrestler
04:29:08 <Nothing\> man, youtube's noneducational content just seems obnoxious
04:29:16 <Nothing\> or at least their trendy stuff
04:29:33 <Nothing\> i forgot what it's like without recommendations that suit your tastes
04:29:42 <rust_collector> that is because people are posting it
04:30:42 <Nothing\> i think like 95% of the stuff i watch is educational, and even the remaining 5% is semi-educational like top tenz, biographics, and geographics
04:31:12 <Nothing\> though i've been gravitating away from top tenz, i usually hate top ten type videos cuz they're more of a tease than anything, but i liked top tenz
04:31:46 <rust_collector> nyan cat 300 hours was a good one
04:31:59 <rust_collector> I used it a lot
04:32:08 <Nothing\> haha yeah actually like some of the youtube poop
04:32:16 <Nothing\> it's been ages since i've watched any though
04:33:33 <rust_collector> then you have the things like kung fury, but that does not happen very often, I guess
04:33:43 <Nothing\> hrm never heard of that one
04:34:00 <rust_collector> it is a movie, just on youtube
04:34:15 <Nothing\> ah i ignore any movies on there cuz i just assume they're garbage
04:34:21 <Nothing\> plus i don't watch movies anymore
04:34:31 <Nothing\> i think the last time i watched a movie was dr strangelove like 2 years ago
04:35:05 <rust_collector> it is probably a few years old now, but it is pretty entertaining, and not very long.
04:35:24 <Nothing\> i've been meaning to watch a clockwork orange lately. been going through the simpsons halloween episodes and there was one that was a parody of a clockwork orange and it really made me wanna watch it again
04:36:17 <rust_collector> then the other weird things, like salad fingers, which has ended up on youtube, and truckers delight. it is sort of crap, but fun anyway
04:36:45 <Nothing\> salad fingers was good, you should check out david firth's other stuff on fat-pie.com it's really great
04:36:52 <rust_collector> I know
04:36:53 <Nothing\> he's got way better stuff than salad fingers
04:36:57 <rust_collector> nope
04:37:09 <Nothing\> oh come on, spoilsbury toastboy is so much better
04:37:25 <rust_collector> nah.
04:37:30 <Nothing\> or have you seen any of the full length fat pie cartoons? he only made 3 but i liked em pretty good
04:38:05 <rust_collector> I tend to make people watch dog of man, when they are annoying enough
04:38:13 <Nothing\> or jerry jackson
04:39:13 <Nothing\> speaking of cartoons, i went to watch cyanide and happiness the other day cuz i haven't watched it in a couple of years and used to love it, but their cartoons now are about 30 seconds of cartoons padded with 2 minutes of adverts for their other stuff
04:39:39 <rust_collector> perfect!
04:40:35 <rust_collector> I guess most of the stuff I watch, is toolmaking, some electronics for noobs, and the rest is weird crap, and music
04:41:24 <rust_collector> I also have days when I feel like watching drunk russians for a few hours
04:44:33 <Nothing\> ah ave was about the only metalshop stuff i watched, not too big into that cuz i know i'll never be able to afford anything to do that sorta stuff with
04:44:54 <Nothing\> anywho i've gotta eat something, i had some peppers last night that i'm still burping and my stomach feels like it's tearing itself apart
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09:59:07 <Halcyon> Morning all
09:59:18 <rust_collector> hey-o
09:59:38 <Halcyon> How's it going?
10:00:34 <rust_collector> starting to be ok now, lol. Wife is on a boat to denmark, listening to some country crap. I had painkillers and pizza, good times
10:00:43 <Halcyon> Hooray
10:00:48 <rust_collector> WHEE!
10:01:15 <rust_collector> I am just so happy to be... not on that boat
10:01:40 <Halcyon> Hah fair enough
10:03:22 <rust_collector> So, I am back to thinking about my power supply build ideas. And rounding up my transformers and stuff, and measuring them
10:03:37 <rust_collector> it is something to do
10:08:42 <Halcyon> Absolutely
10:08:53 <Halcyon> I'm currently converting my internal CA over to Letsencrypt
10:08:57 <Halcyon> Fun :P
10:09:23 <rust_collector> eeeehm, ok. awesome
10:09:25 <rust_collector> I guess
10:37:32 * Ampera shoots Halcyon
10:37:52 <rust_collector> Effects of dietary Bacillus amyloliquefaciens supplementation
10:38:15 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The crusty old fridge uses 479kWh a year. (the gossen resets timer after 24hrs) Modern same size fridge is about 280kWh https://t.co/hCR0fqRy4f
10:38:16 <rust_collector> I am guessing that is not a datasheet for my little transformer?
10:38:26 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
10:38:32 <Ampera> hi fren
10:38:39 <Halcyon> What you up to?
10:38:49 <Ampera> well I just woke up, so not much
11:09:34 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1183172767421739009
11:10:19 <Halcyon> ooooko
11:10:21 <Halcyon> Hahah
11:10:28 <Halcyon> I don't want to know what you get up to
11:10:39 <Ampera> You already do, but this is unrelated
11:10:47 <Ampera> this is just a tweet from the greatest shitposter of our time
11:10:55 <Halcyon> Hah fair enough
11:11:08 <Halcyon> Anyway I'll be back soon, got to get to the post office before it closes
11:11:15 <Ampera> ciao
11:57:27 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eyebleach/comments/dgrfer/animated_cat_goes_in_coffee_cup/
12:05:46 <Halcyon> Back
12:07:28 <Ampera> Halcyon, https://twitter.com/piloht/status/1182074305020141570
12:07:55 <Halcyon> Ew
12:08:07 <Ampera> cishet trash
12:08:47 <Halcyon> Pfft :P You're just jealous
12:09:03 <Halcyon> My package to Clive has been sent
12:09:18 <Ampera> from one bear to another
12:09:19 <Halcyon> Hopefully it makes it, the UK don't like people shipping LiPo packs in things
12:09:23 <Halcyon> I'm not a bear?
12:09:31 <Ampera> ...
12:09:39 <Ampera> well thanks for ruining my fucking joke you cunt
12:10:56 <Halcyon> You're welcome
12:11:04 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
12:11:15 <Halcyon> Aww :-)
12:11:24 * Halcyon noms on spicy ramen
12:11:33 <Ampera> oh I still have to try that stuff out
12:11:42 <Halcyon> Mmmhmm it's delicious
12:11:52 <Ampera> I'll get to it eventually, I always have a lot of food in the house
12:12:09 <Halcyon> It's not as if it's going to go bad anytime soon
12:12:56 <Halcyon> I would probably recommand trying it when you don't have to go anywhere that day or the next day, incase you need to poop urgently :P
12:14:03 <Ampera> My digestive tract is made of wrought iron.
12:14:42 <Halcyon> That's good :-) Mine is too these days, but when I started out eating really spicy food, it was a different story.
12:15:19 * Halcyon has finished noodles
12:15:26 <Halcyon> My face is all tingly
12:18:33 * Ampera throws a StrongARM at Halcyon
12:18:50 <Halcyon> Pointy
12:19:13 <Ampera> I am using emacs to write something
12:19:28 <Halcyon> OK ?
12:19:34 <Ampera> alright
12:19:37 <Ampera> I mean if you say so
14:07:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The bike or the owner? https://t.co/LE6ww7wpzH
14:48:29 <Halcyon> What ya doing Ampera?
14:48:35 <Ampera> not much
14:48:50 <Ampera> debating doing a fall asleep for a bit
14:49:28 <Ampera> what are you doing, Halcyon?
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14:50:12 <Ampera> Hi ThunderSqueak
14:50:13 <Ampera> how do
14:50:19 <Halcyon> Not much
14:50:24 <Halcyon> Doing some uni work, a little bored
14:50:30 <Halcyon> My shoulder hurts too
14:51:05 <Ampera> alright
14:51:11 <Ampera> I'm listening to Chuck Berry
14:51:17 <Halcyon> Kew
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16:39:26 <Halcyon> YAY T3sl4
16:39:29 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o T3sl4
16:39:48 <T3sl4> bothersome
16:39:55 <Halcyon> Hm?>
16:39:58 <T3sl4> game crashed, leaving me with a black desktop and no way to navigate
16:40:02 <T3sl4> sucks having one monitor
16:40:04 <Halcyon> Oh poop
16:42:08 <T3sl4> had to CTRL+ALT+DEL and log off
16:42:15 <Halcyon> I'm just watching the King Parrots nibbling away on my front lawn
16:42:17 <Halcyon> They are so cute
16:44:36 <T3sl4> aw
16:45:39 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @eevblog @LegoLostAtSea @AngieCarley1 @pmkirkham and that was just the piddly little Australian navy, imagine the US navy... They had to scuttle themselves so Russian trawlers don't pick them up and reverse engineer to work out the detection capability
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17:47:37 <steve30> meow
17:48:27 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
17:50:22 <ThunderSqueak> hmm hello
17:50:33 * T3sl4 hugs ThunderSqueak and steve30
17:50:56 * ThunderSqueak hugs T3sl4
17:50:59 <ThunderSqueak> hi there
17:51:04 <T3sl4> hi
17:51:36 <T3sl4> how are you tonight?
17:51:43 * steve30 climbs up Halcyon to give him a shoulder massage
17:51:50 <Halcyon> Aw thanks
17:51:59 <ThunderSqueak> good, GF is over and has my attention ^^
17:52:57 <T3sl4> =( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)=
17:55:06 <steve30> Girlfriends are an odd concept to people in this channel :p
17:56:47 <T3sl4> to some, perhaps
17:58:09 <Halcyon> You bunch of nerds
17:58:56 * T3sl4 noogies Halcyon
17:59:02 <Halcyon> Heh
18:05:44 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
18:06:45 <Halcyon> :-D
18:09:59 * steve30 ponders extra coffee
18:33:22 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I just bought a pair of shoes on the internet for the first time. I feel kinda dirty, like I'm contributing to the downfall of society or something. Too melodramatic?
18:34:21 <steve30> Nope. I've bought plenty of shoes on the internet and feel quite happy about it.
19:26:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It only costs a dollar to troll the comments :-> https://t.co/ccFhvzaGnb
19:42:07 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WGEGAm6eek
20:06:19 <rust_collector> COFFEEEEEE!!!
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22:00:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Damn, this is good. https://t.co/ZxcxZ47QfM
22:19:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @ImagesFail: From the Bored Tech Stock Image genre. Only the most talented models are able to crack this market. https://t.co/GSIg4KWgcK
22:24:55 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @ImagesFail: He's deeply concerned his fingers are too close. My advice is to go full-finger hold, to succeed in the Stock Image trade…
22:28:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @ImagesFail: I honestly have no idea what the hell is going on here. https://t.co/ogMCiraQVr
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