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00:23:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Hey @netflix Upping the price isn't going to stop the cash hemorrhage and user exodus. https://t.co/SpLA5Q3ptx
00:25:22 <Ampera> I'm experimenting with caffiene pills, because I hate anything coffee/tea, and I need to drink like a whole 2L of soda to get any reasonable dose
00:25:33 <Ampera> so I have 200mg tablets
00:26:34 <K> impressions?
00:36:13 <Ampera> K, I just took one, so it'll take a little bit for it to do stuff
00:36:26 <Ampera> but I'd imagine it will work like any other source of caffine
00:36:35 <Ampera> it'll keep my tired ass from dozing off
00:37:33 <K> i think there is tea-derived stuff available in pill form as well
00:39:26 <K> theanine
00:40:10 <K> i tend to get jittery hands from coffee, bad for working on small and delicate stuff
00:40:35 <K> but black tea works very good, no bad side effects
00:40:57 <K> something about coffeine+theanine wokring together yada yada
00:44:38 <Ampera> My issue is while I don't mind a good coffee taste wise, it makes me horifically nauseous
00:44:43 <Ampera> caffeine doesn't, just coffee
00:45:08 <Ampera> and I'm not a huge fan of tea, though I can stomach iced tea
00:54:40 <T3sl4> mmm, coffee
00:55:21 <T3sl4> K: try alcohol, it depresses the nervous system
00:55:54 <T3sl4> Ampera: clearly you need to try brewing coffee without vegetables
00:59:34 <Ampera> I need to try sleeping but my brain doesn't wanna let me
01:08:43 <K> eh, i don't do alcohol
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09:06:54 <Halcyon> Moring all
09:07:11 <Halcyon> Woo, it's going to be warm today, 36 degrees
09:15:34 <T3sl4> it's going to be cold tonight, 36 degrees
09:15:44 <Halcyon> :)
09:16:18 <steve30> hi Halcyon
09:18:19 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
09:18:29 * Halcyon hands Steve some sunlight
09:19:05 <steve30> yay :)
09:20:14 * steve30 watches 8-bit guy
09:54:57 * Halcyon coffees Steve
09:55:09 <steve30> *purr*
09:56:42 <Halcyon> I probably should get off the computer soon and start doing things around the house
09:56:57 * orbii looks out at the overcast skies
09:57:02 * orbii contemplates having to work tomorrow, sighs
09:57:47 <Halcyon> Orbii, how far are you from Sydney?
09:57:53 * Halcyon looks outside and it's blue skys everywhere
09:59:41 <orbii> nice
10:00:12 <Halcyon> Mind you I'm up in the mountains, not exactly "Sydney" but close enough
10:00:14 <orbii> Halcyon: ~300km
10:00:20 <Halcyon> Ahh
10:00:22 <steve30> I should ring for a physiotherapy appointment tomorrow
10:00:34 <steve30> I've only been putting it off several weeks.
10:00:49 <Halcyon> I thought you liked this guy Steve?
10:01:24 <steve30> I do, but i've been busy
10:01:43 <Halcyon> Oh right, it sounded like you were avoiding it
10:02:36 <steve30> He gave my leg a nice massage last time :D
10:02:45 <Halcyon> :P
10:04:40 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:04:52 <Halcyon> aww hey Ampera :)
10:05:03 <Ampera> how do fren
10:05:19 <Halcyon> Not too bad, how about you?
10:05:37 <Ampera> interesting
10:06:02 <Ampera> I need to get dovecot working at some point
10:06:37 <Halcyon> Which is what?
10:06:51 <rust_collector> email stuff
10:06:53 <Ampera> MUA
10:06:58 <Halcyon> ah
10:07:04 <Ampera> POP3 and IMAP shit
10:07:20 <Ampera> of course the configs are confusing as hell and documentation is confusing
10:11:55 <Halcyon> The joys :-)
10:13:56 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tHyZdtXULw
10:14:02 <Halcyon> That gaming convention looks cool
10:14:09 <Halcyon> I especially like the living room set ups
10:14:23 <Ampera> I'm actually watching that right now
10:17:34 <steve30> Enough cute geeky guys for Halcyon?
10:17:42 <Halcyon> Meh :P
10:28:28 * Ampera throws a Western Electric model 302 at Halcyon
10:28:37 <Halcyon> Oww, heavy
10:28:58 <Ampera> I'm hoping to stumbled across a model 500 at some point
10:41:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @unicorn: Coolest thing I've seen at #devcon5 is Kong. Holy shit. https://t.co/TSQeiOPMXq
10:50:02 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @mavericksmovies: It’s been 15 years and the lifeless CGI eyes in The Polar Express still freak me out https://t.co/p5Qqg8m5zN
10:53:23 <steve30> Someone posted a cat in Halcyon's pet thread :D
10:53:44 <Halcyon> I know, stupid cats
10:59:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Edward Snowden on Joe Rogan podcast? Information Content Christmas has come early this year. https://t.co/PvdGbyZuBy https://t.co/hxqzVRYxmQ
11:05:38 <orbii> Ampera: make sure you do IMAPS/POP3S btw
11:06:26 <Ampera> orbii, yes I know
11:07:18 <orbii> you can get certs from LE
11:07:24 <Ampera> I already have 3
11:07:24 <orbii> you'll want similar on your SMTPS, etc.
11:07:31 <Ampera> Already done.
11:07:34 <orbii> and wildcard can come in handy there
11:07:46 <orbii> 'k :)
11:08:06 <Ampera> I know how to set up TLS, I just don't know how to setup an email server
11:15:48 <orbii> gotta start somewhere, i guess
11:33:05 <coppice> the answer to how to setup an email server is usually "badly"
11:33:33 <Ampera> I mean I'm not stupid, I know in general how to make things secure, and how it all works
11:33:46 <Ampera> the issue is actually configuring it to get it to do what I want it to do is difficult, since I have never used the software before
12:14:14 <orbii> the problem stems from not knowing what you dont know
12:19:40 <Ampera> Let me put it this way. I believe myself to know enough and be capable of filling myself in enough on the mechanisms used to secure email severs in order to make one of my own.
12:20:32 * orbii shrugs
12:20:40 <Ampera> The server is very much in testing and I have not used it for anything outside of that realm. I will be doing as much research as I possibly can to ensure that when I do eventually use it, that it's secure.
12:21:09 <Ampera> and I know enough to understand that there's more than TLS when it comes to securing email servers.
12:45:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, I joined @bitchute 2 years ago https://t.co/I1Xo5xLjIy
13:34:26 * orbii hrms at job interview candidate
13:49:47 * Halcyon pokes Ampera
13:49:57 <Halcyon> orbii: What job you guys hiring for?
13:50:21 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This is great (but not new): Alternative Math | Short Film https://t.co/GqPLCuhkTf
13:51:02 <orbii> Halcyon: network engineer
13:51:17 <orbii> got mixed feelings about this guy
13:51:24 <orbii> it's sitting at 'probably yes'
13:51:34 <orbii> its not a 'hell yes' which always makes me uncomfortable tho
13:51:35 <Halcyon> What's got you thinking 'no' ?
13:51:46 <orbii> just some of his answers around linux and related
13:51:58 <orbii> which isnt technically network engineer - but its becoming more-so
13:52:07 <orbii> and we have some tools which are very linux-based
13:52:30 <Halcyon> I'm in the process of assessing candidates for some roles we have at the moment as well. For me, it's less about technical as tech can be taught, but their personality, how they solve problems/the unknown etc...
13:53:18 <orbii> for me it's mostly around do they have the right attitude, arer they a cultural fit, can they learn - do they have a passion for the technology, etc.
13:53:31 <orbii> and yeah - problem-solving - so hearing about previous stuff they've done (projets/fixing stuff - war stories)
13:53:34 <Halcyon> Absolutely
13:53:37 <orbii> i dont tend to focus on the low-level technical
13:53:42 <orbii> and try and keep it light
13:53:52 <orbii> but now my co-worker is doing the HR-ish questions ;) so i can talk in here
13:54:56 <Halcyon> BRB, need to restart...
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14:01:23 <Halcyon> damian1: The Let's Encrypt cert has expirer again
14:02:24 <Halcyon> *expired
15:10:27 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
15:16:05 <Halcyon> Silly cat
15:16:06 <Halcyon> :P
15:29:31 <Halcyon> Back soon
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16:10:19 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Amazing that a market exists for a dedicated device to copy iPhone screen chips. https://t.co/tUcWz1TkcO
16:21:23 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The world has gone MAD, I weep for the future. Oxford bans clapping for being an 'anxiety trigger' and suggests 'jazz hands' instead: https://t.co/miOKnNRBnA https://t.co/ZeIYEj7ihv
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17:51:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Returned Faulty BM235 Switch Investigation https://t.co/tUKB3MSLYG
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18:14:39 <steve30> There's a guy in an article on recon.com today who looks like he'd be a close relative of John Ward.
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20:41:10 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! BM235 Multimeter Faulty Switch FIXED + (OZ) GIVEAWAY https://t.co/dI891QuBfN
20:47:04 <K> hello
22:27:43 * Ampera jabs Halcyon_
22:54:48 * orbii looks at halcyon
22:58:54 * Stiff pokes halcyon
23:03:23 <K> cease the debauchery!
23:04:30 * steve30 pokes K
23:04:41 * Ampera nudges K
23:16:24 <K> cease!
23:34:45 <Halcyon_> Hey gents
23:35:11 Nick: Halcyon_ is now known as Halycon
23:35:20 Nick: Halycon is now known as Halcyon
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23:35:41 <Halcyon> VLANs are driving me nuts
23:35:49 <Halcyon> I cannot work out this weird network issue
23:39:15 <Halcyon> orbii
23:39:23 <Halcyon> You're smart, what am I doing wrong?
23:51:51 * steve30 pets Halcyon