// #d&d — 2015-04-21
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03:33:47 <Avatar> that was like a decade ago
03:33:53 <Avatar> I don't remember what I said
04:40:12 <Mekkis> the internet knows no statute of limitations :P
04:43:42 <Avatar> nevertheless I deny the allegation !
04:51:43 <Steven> that sounds like something avatar would say.
04:55:22 <Mekkis> Oct 02 21:47:28 <Avatar> [20:49:00] for some reason I thought 5/good meant DR 5 when being attacked with good-aligned weapons
04:55:23 <Mekkis> Oct 02 21:47:28 <Ballig> [20:49:15] ha
04:55:23 <Mekkis> Oct 02 21:47:28 <Brunius> [20:55:08] I think I just crashed Avatar's computer
05:50:24 <Mekkis> hmmm
05:50:54 <Mekkis> Turn 240 - Dido has won a Domination Victory. Time spent: 1 hour, 57 minutes
05:53:20 <Brunius> wait
05:53:26 <Brunius> isn't that what dr5/good means?
05:53:31 <Mekkis> no
05:53:43 <Brunius> I mean there's more
05:53:45 <Brunius> spells obviously
05:53:52 <Mekkis> it means DR 5, except when being attacked by good-aligned weapons
05:54:53 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should be able to answer this:
05:55:19 <Mekkis> What action is it to take an item out of a backpack (that ISN'T an handy haversack)?
05:55:35 <Brunius> move or as part of a move, isn't it?
05:55:47 <Brunius> I'm sure I saw a ruling that digging for a potion is a move
05:56:45 <Mekkis> Correct answer is: Move action that provokes.
05:57:11 <Brunius> I never even thought about provoking
05:57:41 <Mekkis> What do you think Stephen White and many other people at Conquest thought it was?
05:57:58 <Brunius> free
05:58:02 <Brunius> or swift, maybe
05:58:46 <Mekkis> they actually thought it was a standard
05:59:07 <Steven> I've had a GM impose a 'rule' that depending on how i packed my bag it could be anywhere from a move to a full round.
05:59:08 <Brunius> That would've been my distant third, but I wouldn't expect it at all
05:59:32 <Brunius> So Steven, give him an in-depth look at how your bag is packed every time you break camp
05:59:43 <Steven> it was really dumb.
05:59:51 <Mekkis> sure, it's an abstraction
06:00:45 <Steven> i solved it by unnecessarily buying a handy haversack.
06:01:08 <Steven> so i could always retrieve my cure potions.
06:03:32 <Mekkis> is aluminium available in Pathfinder?
06:03:42 <Brunius> Is there an official ruling on how long it takes to feed someone a potion?
06:03:48 <Steven> mithril
06:03:54 <Mekkis> yes
06:03:57 <Steven> yes, its a full round
06:03:57 <Brunius> Mekkis: Isn't most aluminium made from electric stuff
06:03:58 <Mekkis> Full-round action
06:04:06 <Brunius> I can't remember what it's actually called
06:04:17 <Brunius> But you put current through a solution and it forms on the terminals
06:04:25 <Mekkis> bauxite
06:06:38 <Steven> i like to think of aluminium as mithrils equivilent... but its probably more like titanium
06:12:12 <Mekkis> what's the combustion point of mithril?
06:29:47 <Steven> not defined
06:30:19 <Steven> i went and looked, couldnt find it.
06:47:56 <Mekkis> Brunius, tanks?
07:19:49 <Steven> bored... kinda wanna play a game.
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07:37:50 <Steven> my gunquisitor has greater reliable on his weapon.
07:37:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, your problem is that you take the wrong risks
07:37:55 <Steven> because missfiring sucks dick.
07:38:11 <Avatar> nah forget reliable, that is the best drawback a gunslinger can have
07:38:57 <Steven> i just built my gunquisitor really well and then throttle him back.
07:39:00 <Avatar> nobody knows what the feat I'm after is
07:39:14 <Avatar> I'm certain there was a don't-provoke feat that just had some other pre-reqs
07:39:27 <Mekkis> In that particular case: either you're prone and full-attack them, or you're upright and get off a single attack. You still get full-attacked next turn.
07:39:28 <Avatar> maybe a grit feat
07:39:41 <Steven> instead of full attacking, I vital strike.
07:39:51 <Avatar> i'm not explaining well enough mekkis
07:39:59 <Avatar> in the situations i've been in, that's just been a terrible option to take
07:40:08 <Avatar> like there are other guys around who will start whacking if I don't start moving
07:40:17 <Avatar> and with me at a -4 AC if I stay prone
07:40:19 <Mekkis> and a 5' step is enough?
07:40:32 <Avatar> sometimes it is
07:40:39 <Avatar> it opens options like withdrawing as well
07:40:46 <Avatar> staying prone is hugely risky
07:41:14 <Avatar> if it's not risky, then yes I would stay prone and full attack, but that's never the case
07:41:22 <Avatar> or it never has been at least
07:41:49 <Avatar> !feat deft shootist deed
07:41:50 <diebot> Avatar, DEFT SHOOTIST DEED [Grit] You keep an eye out while focusing on your weapon, allowing you to avoid attacks while shooting and reloading firearms. Prerequisites: Grit class feature or Amateur Gunslinger feat, Dodge, Mobility. Benefit: As long as you have at least 1 grit point, you do not provoke attacks of opportunity when shooting or
07:41:50 <diebot> reloading a firearm.
07:41:50 <diebot> Benefit: Source: UC
07:41:57 <Avatar> there it is
07:42:38 <Mekkis> don't get me wrong: as someone who played Eyes of the Ten with a wizard with 79hp, I understand that getting full-attacked by a barbarian is not a good option either way
07:44:25 <Avatar> yeah the first thing that barbarian did when he appeared was walk up to me when I was on 3/4 of my hp and hit me once, then I made the mistake of trying to 5ft step away to shoot him
07:45:15 <Steven> my healer got punched w/ a held harm spell.
07:46:03 <Mekkis> Took you to negatives on the subsequent full-attack?
07:46:14 <Steven> hell no, i hit my get out of jail free card.
07:46:26 <Mekkis> !item mnemonic vestments
07:46:28 <Steven> and ddoored the fuck out of that hit.
07:46:30 <Steven> shit
07:46:30 <Mekkis> I meant Avatar
07:46:31 <diebot> Mekkis, MNEMONIC VESTMENT [strong transmutation] CL:17 body 5000gp, 1lb
07:46:31 <diebot> The surface of this delicate-looking blue silk robe is adorned with tiny embossed runes across its entire surface. If the wearer is a spontaneous caster, once per day she may use a spell slot to cast a spell from a written source (such as a scroll or spellbook) as if she knew that spell. The spell must be on her spell list, the same spell level or
07:46:31 <diebot> lower than the expended spell slot, and the same type of spell (arcane or divine) as the spell slot expended. The caster must also understand the written source (such as using Decipher Script or read magic) and be carrying it. Activating the robe is not an action, but casting the spell otherwise works as normal, including casting time, providing
07:46:31 <diebot> components or foci, and so on. Using a mnemonic vestment's properties does not consume the written source. Source: Ultimate Equipment
07:46:52 <Avatar> yeah
07:47:02 <Avatar> that was the first time
07:47:22 <Avatar> then stephen's character came in with the first breath of life
07:47:37 <Mekkis> Good old slip
07:47:41 <Avatar> all of us walking up was probably a bad idea but we were out of choices
07:51:17 <Mekkis> But if you can't confidently take a full-attack by a barbarian, you should have some way of preventing that that's a bit more reliable than "stand up and hope to withdraw the next turn"
07:54:29 <Mekkis> I think THAT'S your problem
07:54:43 <Mekkis> !search attacks of opportunity
07:54:44 <diebot> Mekkis, 53 items found and PMed to Mekkis.
07:54:52 <Avatar> that's not how it happened man
07:55:00 <Mekkis> !search provoking attacks of opportunity
07:55:00 <diebot> Mekkis, Daredevil Softpaws,Daredevil Boots,Stagger-Proof Boots,Grappler's Mask,Shield Of Covered Retreat,Armband Of The Golden Serpent
07:55:56 <Mekkis> it doesn't matter how it happened, I'm trying to solve the generic case for you
07:55:58 <Avatar> snap shot was meant to deal with this provoking issue
07:56:22 <Avatar> I don't know why I thought it worked that way
07:56:34 <Avatar> I was tossing up several times and there's no way that feat is any good for me
07:56:52 <Avatar> between snap shot and I'm pretty sure deft shootist was the alternative
07:56:58 <Avatar> for quite a while
07:57:30 <Avatar> it might have been that I wanted to either not provoke OR threaten when things walked past me
07:57:38 <Avatar> but not both
07:58:01 <Avatar> and I ended up choosing snap shot because I thought it did both
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08:11:10 <Steven> need to update my plan for my core Arcane Archer
08:12:36 <Steven> think im going to change from a wizard to a sorc.
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08:17:52 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you consider shooting the barbarian in the torso to stagger him?
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08:21:37 <Avatar> shooting in the torso threatens a critical, which I do automatically anyway with improved critical
08:21:49 <Avatar> targetting isn't very good
08:22:38 <Avatar> maybe I lie now that I look at the options again
08:22:49 <Avatar> torso is useless but the rest might have been helpful
08:23:02 <Avatar> but I was constantly on the run, otherwise I would've been shooting him 5 times
08:23:04 <Mekkis> I agree, targetting isn't very good. But there are some situations where it's useful
08:23:31 <Mekkis> !findchar Bucj
08:23:33 <Mekkis> !findchar Buck
08:23:39 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Bucj.
08:23:40 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Buck. number: 308( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=308 ) number: 324( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=324 )
08:23:40 <Avatar> grit's usually valuable just because I'm always misfiring and having to quick clear
08:24:11 <Mekkis> !history 308
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r530 | vpsirc | 2014-12-19 00:11:05 -0500 (Fri, 19 Dec 2014) | 1 line
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r233 | vpsirc | 2013-08-25 00:10:31 -0400 (Sun, 25 Aug 2013) | 1 line
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r162 | vpsirc | 2013-06-01 00:09:54 -0400 (Sat, 01 Jun 2013) | 1 line
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r132 | vpsirc | 2013-04-25 00:12:14 -0400 (Thu, 25 Apr 2013) | 1 line
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r64 | vpsirc | 2013-01-28 00:18:10 -0500 (Mon, 28 Jan 2013) | 1 line
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r30 | vpsirc | 2012-10-04 00:10:34 -0400 (Thu, 04 Oct 2012) | 1 line
08:24:13 <diebot> Mekkis, r3 | initial load | 2012-07-21 00:05:09 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
08:24:54 <Mekkis> !diff 308 r64
08:24:55 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/308r64.txt
08:24:58 <Avatar> I only got to shoot in 5 turns the whole day, and only about half of those were all 5 of my attacks
08:25:22 <Avatar> in one of the full attacks, I misfired on the third shot, and shirt rerolled it and misfired again on the 5th shot
08:25:31 <Mekkis> Maybe Buck should be on Dobs
08:25:42 <Avatar> Dobs died a long time ago
08:26:30 <Mekkis> Buck has levels in Inquisitor?!
08:26:44 <Avatar> yeah, spellbreaker
08:27:19 <Mekkis> So.. Litany of Sloth
08:27:26 <Mekkis> Solves all your problems, right?
08:28:22 <Avatar> I keep forgetting I have it and what it does
08:28:32 <Mekkis> !spell litany of sloth
08:28:33 <diebot> Mekkis, LITANY OF SLOTH enchantment (compulsion[language-dependent, mind-affecting]) antipaladin 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1 1 swift action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S, DF Duration: 1 round Save: no SR:yesSource: Ultimate Combat
08:28:33 <diebot> With a litany against the wages of sloth, you slow the target's defenses. The target cannot make attacks of opportunity or cast spells defensively. While subject to this spell, the target cannot be the target of another spell that has the word "litany" in the title.
08:28:52 <Avatar> that does seem to let me get up
08:29:06 <Avatar> although there seems to be table variation on whether swift actions provoke
08:29:55 <Mekkis> Ask GM at start of game?
08:34:46 <Mekkis> I thought the table variation was not on whether swift action spells provoked
08:34:57 <Mekkis> It was on whether other swift actions provoked
08:38:44 <Avatar> I thought it was both
08:40:43 <Mekkis> nope
08:40:47 <Mekkis> CRB p213
08:40:58 <Mekkis> A spell with a casting time of 1 swift action doesn’t count
08:40:58 <Mekkis> against your normal limit of one spell per round. However,
08:40:58 <Mekkis> you may cast such a spell only once per round. Casting a
08:40:58 <Mekkis> spell with a casting time of 1 swift action doesn’t provoke
08:40:58 <Mekkis> attacks of opportunity.
08:41:14 <Mekkis> no table variation
08:41:24 <Mekkis> not like the wrist sheath cheese
08:42:31 <Avatar> fair enough
08:48:14 <Mekkis> Then again, I was somewhat amused in Melbourne when the question came up: What kind of action is it to retrieve an item from a backpack?
08:49:55 <Fire> Hello everyone
08:55:12 <Mekkis> hello. Are you the fire, or its containment device?
08:58:20 <Mekkis> Are you yelling 'fire' in a crowded room?
09:00:39 <FireLantern> I was merly the fire itself, but then I discovered that IRC does not allow a space to exist in your username
09:04:24 <Mekkis> Fair enough
09:11:30 <Mekkis> !findchar Ulzef
09:11:31 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Ulzef. number: 629( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=629 )
09:15:26 <FireLantern> You fellow by the name Mekkis. Might I ask you how this whole thing works? I am reading the guide online but I am still not quite sure
09:15:48 <FireLantern> Does like the whole thing go trough irc?
09:15:53 <Mekkis> Oh, playing Pathfinder/D&D online?
09:15:59 <FireLantern> Yes
09:16:15 <Mekkis> How much do you know about Pathfinder/D&D?
09:17:20 <FireLantern> Me and a few of my friends started playing a month of so ago. We are using the beginners box rules and one day ago we went to a convention where we played our first PFS games.
09:17:32 <Mekkis> Ah. Cool
09:17:34 <FireLantern> So I think that I have scratched the surface of the game
09:17:56 <Mekkis> Well, basically, we take the tabletop experience and bring it online.
09:18:27 <FireLantern> I mean i've played online twiceish online on roll20
09:18:48 <Mekkis> We generally use skype for voice chat, and either roll20, or a program that's been developed inhouse to do the mapping (DevCA)
09:20:27 <FireLantern> Yes i've seen the DevCA on the site. I was just a bit confused wheter you roleplay via text on IRC or via some other means. It didn't really make sense to me.
09:20:36 <Mekkis> If you sign up online, you'll be able to receive emails when games are scheduled. If there are particular PFS scenarios you'd like to play, if you ask in here, it's likely Avatar or I will run it.
09:20:45 <FireLantern> Your sessions are set for Oceanic time right?
09:20:53 <Mekkis> The roleplaying is done through a combination of text and voice
09:21:00 <Mekkis> AEST.
09:21:13 <Mekkis> Australian Eastern Standard Time
09:22:46 <Mekkis> (if you sign up, the site will display them in your local time)
09:22:52 <FireLantern> Oh thats nice. I was trying to find some way to play PFS online as it happens once a monthish only where i live since the town is really small.
09:23:23 <FireLantern> I found only a bunch of american stuff that is impossible for me to attend since it ends up being say 1 am for me if the play in the evening
09:23:49 <FireLantern> Anyhow I'm haveing lunch atm, thanks for the info i'll ask you a few things once I come back if you will still be here
09:24:03 <FireLantern> I hope that in the end I will be able to join you people ^-^
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09:24:20 <Mekkis> I'm always here. I might not be able to answer, being asleep, or at work. But I'm here.
09:24:39 <Mekkis> Don't be afraid to request scenarios, we don't mind running stuff based on that.
09:30:56 <Mekkis> heard anything about unchained?
09:31:16 <Mekkis> Is "forcing everyone to adopt the new classes in PFS" on the cards?
09:42:08 <FireLantern> I'm back in case you are still here.
09:59:28 <FireLantern> *cough* Fair citizents of mIRC! Do thou have any idea of how I can get my character sheet to realize that I am a smart fighter and that I rightfully deserve 5 skill points!?
10:28:01 <Steven> remember last time you asked me about stuff they havent made an announcement about yet?
10:28:06 <FireLantern> *cough*
10:28:08 <FireLantern> Anyone?
10:30:56 <Steven> then i went on to explain how i have a NDA w/ paizo.
10:31:32 <Steven> and until they say something i am contractually obligated to tell you I don't know anything.
10:32:01 <FireLantern> I shall take that as no!
11:01:17 <FireLantern> Farewell stranger who I didn't speak a word to!
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17:29:51 <Avatar> that's the last we'll see of FireLantern
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19:58:11 <Mekkis> Steven, any chance you'll trade me your Personal Fixer boon?
21:13:22 <Brunius> didn't you say that about me
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22:20:20 <Steven> if i remember it when i go down to the shop, i'll pick it up.
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