// #d&d — 2015-04-07
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01:00:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, does Buck plan on taking on an apprentice?
01:27:11 <Mekkis> Trying to decide who Deceased would take
01:27:29 <Mekkis> I think he'd probably raise a cleric
01:36:51 <ulzef> isnt Deceased a wizard though
01:44:02 <Mekkis> yeah, he is
01:44:39 <Mekkis> but, ulzef, would he consider raising another?
03:31:02 <Avatar> why would Buck take an apprentice
03:35:53 <steven> teach him the ways of gunslinging
03:37:06 <Avatar> my gunslinger doesn't try to teach anyone anything about gunslinging ever
03:37:16 <Avatar> if they want to learn, they can learn on their own
04:16:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, if, hypothetically speaking, there was a stat increase in it for his apprentice, what sort of character would Buck take as an apprentice?
04:20:28 <Mekkis> evidently, not gunslinging
04:30:45 <ulzef> mekkis what should i do while the smite servers are down?
04:37:16 <Mekkis> the smite servers?
04:37:29 <Mekkis> pull out an adamantine weapond?
04:42:43 <Mekkis> ulzef, Also, it seems that the Spirit of Freedom doesn't have a preacher
04:43:07 <Mekkis> And it would be someone like Deceased to have Ideas on what sort of preacher it would be :P
04:51:45 <Mekkis> How long was that split for?
04:56:12 <Avatar> I guess the shield is good if you use a shield
04:56:30 <Avatar> but I think I can count on one hand the number of players who do
04:56:46 <Mekkis> oh? Am I one of them?
04:57:11 <Avatar> which of your characters has a shield
04:57:26 <Mekkis> Ecidon
04:57:32 <Avatar> I have no idea who that is
04:57:48 <Mekkis> My tower-shield using diceless oracle
04:58:01 <Avatar> there's no ecidon on the site
04:58:39 <Avatar> would your tower shield diceless oracle switch to a kite shield that lets him stand from prone
04:58:40 <Mekkis> I know. I haven't played it online
04:59:02 <Mekkis> what ac bonus does a kite shield provide?
05:00:18 <Avatar> excellent question
05:00:49 <Mekkis> he's currently wielding a tower shield because it provides the biggest penalty to attack rolls
05:00:51 <Avatar> it's a wooden kite shield
05:01:09 <Avatar> I don't know if that counts as light or heavy?
05:01:24 <Mekkis> or a third category
05:01:39 <Avatar> there's no third category
05:02:23 <Mekkis> oh?
05:02:31 <Mekkis> you mean like tower shield or buckler
05:02:59 <Avatar> a tower shield is a tower shield and a buckler is a buckler
05:03:03 <Avatar> there's no kite shield
05:03:32 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/armor
05:04:10 <Avatar> I presume it would be a heavy wooden shield
05:04:20 <Avatar> a light wooden shield would be round I'd imagine
05:08:26 <Mekkis> hm
05:08:33 <Steven1> as long as it needeed to be!
05:09:07 <Steven1> also... Sword of the Open road on a ranger with favored enemy human vs an aspis agent.
05:09:42 <Steven1> level 5 w/ lead blades +14 to hit nonlethaly 2d6+17+2d6bane
05:09:51 <Steven1> just fuckin stupid awesome.
05:10:36 <Steven1> i crit with one hit and killed somebody outright with nonlethal damage... my character actually felt bad
05:13:00 <Mekkis> Wow. Conversion channel is PFS legal
05:13:51 <Mekkis> Steven1, what are the rules for wearing a phylactary in order to meet channeling prereqs?
05:20:00 <Mekkis> Some third-party publication claims that a kite shield is a tower shield
05:20:02 <Mekkis> But still, Ecidon wouldn't get one, simply because it lasts for 1d4 rounds - and that would require rolling a dice
05:25:03 <Avatar> then I guess you're back to using the stagger-proof boots !
05:25:57 <Mekkis> nah
05:26:32 <Mekkis> I don't care enough about standing up from prone. Just confuse the enemy and stand up.
05:28:55 <steven> mekkis... common sense.
05:29:36 <Avatar> lol
05:31:22 <Avatar> confuse the enemy
05:31:27 <Mekkis> steven, so in general, if an item grants an ability, it is sufficient to qualify for a feat?
05:31:28 <Mekkis> yeah
05:31:48 <steven> if it grants an ability yes.
05:31:55 <Avatar> as in the spell
05:32:08 <steven> phylactary does not grant the ability, just gives additional dice.
05:32:15 <Mekkis> as in the condition
05:32:26 <Avatar> right, caused by what
05:32:38 <Mekkis> the Confusion Curse
05:32:48 <Avatar> supernatural ability?
05:33:05 <Mekkis> extraordinary
05:33:41 <Avatar> what about your other characters that don't have a confusion curse
05:33:53 <Mekkis> they don't use shields
05:34:02 <Mekkis> so you CAN take a feat that requires 5d6 channelling with 5 levels of cleric and a phylactary?
05:34:11 <Avatar> right, but how do they deal with being tripped
05:34:28 <Mekkis> ummm... get up
05:34:32 <Avatar> and provoke !
05:34:40 <steven> last i checked. yes
05:34:46 <Avatar> that's the whole point of this conversation
05:34:49 <Mekkis> kill the attacker, then get up
05:34:58 <Avatar> kill the attacker from the ground?
05:35:03 <Mekkis> sure
05:35:14 <Mekkis> or bespell the attacker
05:35:27 <Mekkis> or teleport away
05:35:28 <Avatar> I'll buy the boots
05:35:38 <Mekkis> Start by buying an adamantine weapon
05:35:46 <Mekkis> or grapple the attacker
05:36:05 <Mekkis> Are there any other ways of increasing chanelling damage?
05:36:55 <steven> aasimar
05:37:01 <Mekkis> oh?
05:37:08 <steven> life oracle
05:37:27 <Mekkis> ah
05:37:35 <Mekkis> the favoured class bonux thing
05:37:48 <steven> sun domain
05:37:52 <steven> um....
05:38:12 <steven> there is proly one more i cant remember it though
05:40:58 <steven> i need to build an apprentice for my necromancer.
05:41:10 <Avatar> I will have a think about the adamantine upgrade
05:42:08 <steven> my necromancer was the apprentice for my life oracle... he was researching the secrets of life... tricked poor trusting honey.
05:42:43 <Mekkis> Well, I suppose I can live with getting it at level 9
05:43:03 <Mekkis> Do you lose access to the feat if you remove the phylactary?
05:44:09 <steven> you can no longer make use of it until you again meet the prerequisites
05:44:26 <Mekkis> hmmm
05:44:33 <steven> like if you take str damage and go below 13str
05:44:42 <steven> you cant make use of power attack until your str goes back up
05:44:47 <Mekkis> that's a bad example, steven
05:44:48 <Mekkis> :P
05:44:56 <Mekkis> str damage doesn't affect str
05:45:48 <steven> pretty sure it does.
05:46:32 <Mekkis> nope. Taking ability damage leaves the actual ability score unchanged
05:46:43 <Mekkis> p556 of the core rulebook
05:46:52 <Mekkis> but I do get what you're saying
05:48:45 <Mekkis> just like carrying capacity is unchanged
05:48:57 <steven> hey hey
05:50:01 <steven> back.
05:50:05 <steven> yeah, im thinking drain.
05:50:39 <Mekkis> yep
05:51:44 <Avatar> I still don't have a way to deal with grapples
05:52:57 <steven> unfettered shirt
05:53:42 <steven> i have a level 6 blob to build
05:54:06 <Mekkis> rogue
05:54:25 <steven> not gonna build a rogue.
05:55:23 <steven> gotta build something ahtuz would apprentice.
05:55:25 <Mekkis> sunder-focused elvish fighter
05:55:46 <Mekkis> Continually complains about "shoddy human workmanship"
05:56:06 <steven> I already have that in the core campaign.
05:56:14 <Mekkis> gnomeboots
05:56:17 <Mekkis> Boots of Escape
05:56:34 <Mekkis> Does the necromancer in Confirmation have a spellbook?
05:56:55 <steven> follows Alseta... wears a mask... bad mouths everyone thats not an elf or a dwarf.
05:57:28 <steven> calls them round ears
05:57:57 <Mekkis> Gnomish ninja who uses a gnome hooked hammer
05:58:30 <Mekkis> Brevoyan two-weapon fighting oratory bard.
05:58:39 <Mekkis> Wielding sickle and hammer.
05:59:41 <steven> int based cavalier that uses a bow?
05:59:43 <Avatar> my boots slot is full
05:59:46 <Avatar> lolzz
05:59:54 <Mekkis> with what?
06:00:16 <Avatar> with the stagger-proof boots
06:00:21 <Mekkis> make a Red Mantis Assassin (the concept, not the class obviously)
06:00:24 <steven> shoots people with focused shot for int to damage
06:00:44 <Mekkis> TWF sawtooth saber fighter
06:00:45 <Mekkis> maybe not the fighter class, of course
06:00:48 <Mekkis> Wand of Dimension Door!
06:00:54 <Mekkis> !feat focused shot
06:00:55 <diebot> Mekkis, FOCUSED SHOT [Combat]Prereq: Int 13, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot. Your anatomical insight adds deadliness to your shots.
06:00:56 <diebot> Benefit: As a standard action, you may make an attack with a bow or crossbow and add your Intelligence modifier on the damage roll. You must be within 30 feet of your target to deal this extra damage. Creatures immune to critical hits and sneak attacks are immune to this extra damage.
06:00:56 <diebot> Special: Starting at 2nd level, a ranger with the archery combat style may select Focused Shot as a combat style feat. Source: APG
06:01:22 <Avatar> I don't know if I'd risk UMDing wand of dimension door while I'm grappled
06:01:37 <Mekkis> just get +19 to your UMD
06:02:03 <steven> whoever it is cant be lower int, ahtuz loathes everyone under 30int.
06:06:16 <steven> heh.... maybe a paladin.
06:06:38 <Mekkis> Pretty sure you can't start with more than 30 int
06:08:26 <steven> yeah, but i'll prolly spend the +2 bonus on int.
06:09:25 <Mekkis> so he loathes his fellow adventurers?
06:10:09 <steven> yes.
06:10:19 <steven> he treats them all like children
06:10:47 <Mekkis> fair enough
06:10:50 <steven> "Oh... Look, you learned how to speak."
06:11:00 <Mekkis> children who have saved his life?
06:11:16 <steven> he has never been unconscious.
06:11:21 <steven> ever
06:11:24 <Mekkis> oh
06:12:00 <steven> mostly he lets the dumb people walk up front and distract people while he eats cupcakes and brownies.
06:13:24 <Mekkis> Avatar, want a living steel weapon?
06:13:33 <steven> and then when someone attacks him, his contigency and spell storing armor go off and he gets 7d6 vampiric touch temp hp, and false life cast on him.
06:13:42 <Mekkis> !item master's woe stiletto
06:13:43 <diebot> Mekkis, MASTER'S WOE STILETTO [faint necromancy] CL:3 none 10002gp, 1lb
06:13:43 <diebot> The black-lacquered handle of this slender blade is inlaid with the image of a broken skull. A master's woe stiletto is a +1 living steelUE dagger that allows its wielder to weaken a would-be necromancer's control over the undead. Three times per day when the wielder successfully strikes a target with the stiletto, the wielder can activate the
06:13:43 <diebot> stiletto as a free action to force the target to attempt a DC 13 Will save. On a failure, the number of undead creatures the target can control through spells like animate dead or feats like Command Undead is reduced by 6 Hit Dice (to a minimum of 1 HD). Any excess undead become uncontrolled, but their former controller may choose which creatures
06:13:43 <diebot> are released. This effect lasts for 3 hours and cannot be dispelled, though it can be removed by remove curse, break enchantment, or similar effects. Any uncontrolled undead remain uncontrolled when the effect ends. Source: Undead Slayer's Handbook
06:14:36 <steven> and things dont attack him again because it hurts too much... course usually i defensively cast persistent suffocation and they are dying at his feet.
06:14:45 <steven> after they attack him.
06:15:17 <Mekkis> it's almost like you, me and Avatar are playing three different games.
06:15:48 <steven> he doesnt usually do much in combat unless something makes him mad... then it dies.
06:15:57 <Avatar> DC 13 will save, might pass on that thanks
06:16:10 <Avatar> may as well upgrade my armor with spell resistance on it
06:17:33 <steven> once someone called him an idiot... that person at the end of the day was blinded, deafened, thrice cursed, and hobbled.
06:17:42 <steven> boneshattered his knees.
06:18:10 <Mekkis> seems rather antisocial. Considered not taking a protoge?
06:18:27 <steven> i've had the boon for 8 months now.
06:18:46 <Mekkis> ah
06:19:04 <Mekkis> when does the cookie wear off?
06:19:14 <steven> but he is a venture captain... so probably should impart some of his wisdom to the best of the idiots.
06:19:22 <steven> it wore off back in august.
06:19:52 <steven> his int is 36 currently.
06:20:30 <Mekkis> what's his wisdom :P
06:20:35 <Mekkis> don't
06:20:37 <Mekkis> it's a waste
06:20:38 <steven> started 22+3 level+6headband+5book
06:20:41 <Mekkis> 7?
06:20:45 <steven> 18
06:20:50 <Avatar> you're damn right it's a waste
06:20:55 <Avatar> just like your stiletto
06:21:09 <steven> headband of mental prowess
06:21:13 <Mekkis> started at 12?
06:21:15 <Mekkis> it's LIVING STEEL!
06:21:17 <steven> int/wis+6
06:21:20 <steven> yup
06:21:21 <Mekkis> ah
06:21:44 <Mekkis> sharing his artificial wisdom
06:21:51 <Avatar> living steel is only any good for armor/shields
06:21:54 <steven> his next big purchase is going to be a belt of physical perfection +6
06:21:56 <Avatar> and even then it's not fantastic
06:22:08 <Mekkis> okay
06:22:19 <Avatar> they have to roll a nat 1 to gain the broken condition
06:22:25 <Mekkis> deceased is going for the mirror of mental prowess
06:22:26 <Avatar> on a weapon all it does is repair itself
06:22:30 <steven> so then his stats will be 18/13/20/26/18/8
06:22:48 <Mekkis> so much faster at moving livestock
06:22:52 <Mekkis> here's an item that I think is cool
06:23:04 <steven> living steel is not legal for pfs last i checked
06:23:04 <Mekkis> BOTTLED SUNLIGHT
06:23:13 <Mekkis> steven, that item is
06:23:15 <Avatar> it's not, but that item probably is
06:23:18 <steven> we're going to play reing of winter p5
06:23:29 <steven> in like another month and then my character will be going to lvl17
06:23:36 <steven> then we will do witchwar legacy
06:23:38 <steven> think theres also one on a chronicle sheet somewhere.
06:23:42 <Avatar> mate if you're going to tell us about an item that is cool and nobody knows why, you'd better tell us instead of making us ask
06:23:43 <steven> get to 18
06:23:52 <Avatar> the title is meaningless
06:23:54 <steven> last part of shattered star
06:23:57 <steven> level 19
06:24:04 <steven> and then play race for the runecarved key
06:24:05 <Mekkis> As a sta n d a rd action, this ornate recta n g u l a r jar can be
06:24:06 <Mekkis> vigorously shaken to cause its contents to m ix and activate.
06:24:06 <Mekkis> Once shaken, the contents of the jar shed l i g ht as a sunrod for
06:24:06 <Mekkis> 6 hours. A jar of activated bottled s u n l i g h t can be th rown as a
06:24:06 <Mekkis> splash wea pon with a ra nge increment of 1 O feet. Upon striking
06:24:06 <Mekkis> a solid o bject, the bottled s u n l ight creates a 3 0 -foot-radius
06:24:07 <Mekkis> burst of natural s u n l i g ht that persists for 1 round, after which
06:24:09 <Mekkis> a l l l i g ht from the jar fades. Throwing a n inactive jar of bottled
06:24:11 <Mekkis> s u n l ight destroys the item, leaving only a smoldering p i l e of
06:24:11 <steven> and he will be my level 20
06:24:16 <Mekkis> ashes where it struck. Crafting this item req u i res a successfu l DC
06:24:17 <Mekkis> 3 0 Craft (alchemy) check.
06:24:27 <steven> that is impossible to read.
06:24:38 <Avatar> is that what diebot spat out
06:25:27 <steven> i havent played the character since i got the +6 wis added to the headband.
06:25:36 <Mekkis> no
06:25:47 <steven> so he will probably be a bit less abusive towards the people that are not as smart as him.
06:25:56 <Mekkis> diebot doesn't do nonmagical items
06:26:43 <Avatar> alchemical tools/remedies/weapons are worth puttingin
06:26:52 <steven> suppose i could upgrade the headband as well...
06:27:00 <steven> get a cha of 14
06:27:30 <Mekkis> maybe tomorrow
06:28:05 <steven> ah ha! this character that is level 6
06:28:15 <steven> is my emerald spire guy
06:28:23 <steven> he owns a bunch of land.
06:32:07 <steven> obviously he should be the Seneschal for ahtuz.
06:32:22 <Mekkis> you playing any of these APs in PFS mode anyway?
06:33:16 <steven> no we arent playing reign of winter or shattered star.
06:33:32 <steven> our docket is pretty full for the next year or two when it comes to APs
06:34:32 <steven> we are currently in skull and shackles, then its going to be council of theives followed by hells rebels once it comes out.
06:34:49 <steven> and supposedly we are going to be doing mummy's mask sometime.
06:36:59 <steven> i think this character will be some sort of dispassionate doctor
06:37:07 <Mekkis> how many of your characters have Traveller's Anytools?
06:38:03 <steven> none of them.
06:38:31 <Mekkis> okay
06:40:26 <steven> alright... a Seneschal.
06:40:35 <steven> obviously has profession doctor.
06:40:53 <Mekkis> and a cart full of alchemical supplies?
06:41:17 <steven> might just have to be a long lived race so i can get breadth of experience.
06:41:22 <steven> make all profession checks.
06:41:29 <Mekkis> Gnome!
06:42:10 <steven> i could rock a gnome.
06:43:26 <steven> hmmm... im thinking a dwarf.
06:43:52 <steven> just so i can be like, "I'm not as smart as Ahtuz, but im prettier."
06:43:56 <Mekkis> Gnome is objectively better than dwarf
06:44:42 <steven> I've already got a couple gnomes.
06:44:46 <steven> i only have 1 dwarf
06:45:12 <Mekkis> Played Glories of the Past 3 on Sunday night. My cleric had three spells he hadn't cast
06:45:16 <Mekkis> by the end of it
06:46:51 <steven> i tend to have a lot of spells by the end of scenarios.
06:46:59 <steven> once i get past level 3 or so.
06:46:59 <Mekkis> so do I
06:47:04 <Mekkis> this was level 8
06:47:44 <steven> lets leave this shit up to fate!
06:47:51 <steven> !rng dwarf elf gnome
06:47:51 <diebot> steven, dwarf
06:47:57 <steven> looks like a dwarf mang.
06:49:06 <Avatar> updated the PFS char sheet template
06:49:08 <steven> dwarf seneschal
06:49:44 <Avatar> I don't understand how not including items less than 25gp on your char sheet is supposed to work
06:49:50 <Avatar> does that mean anything less than 25gp is now free
06:50:03 <steven> mebe an alchemist.
06:50:59 <Mekkis> Wow. Cold iron powder gives you +1 to dispel checks!
07:01:35 <Mekkis> no
07:01:58 <Mekkis> you still need to account for it in "Gold Spent" on the chronicle sheet
07:02:12 <Mekkis> How does sniping work?
07:02:34 <steven> shoot make stealth check at -20.
07:03:17 <Mekkis> what's the action?
07:03:26 <Mekkis> can you do a full-attack snipe?
07:03:45 <steven> no, once you shoot you break stealth
07:04:44 <steven> its under the stealth rules.
07:04:45 <Mekkis> can you full-attack, get the stealth on the first attack, then restealth?
07:05:03 <steven> think it lists one attack.
07:05:43 <steven> its really only useful when somebody is readying actions to hit you once you become visable.
07:06:47 <steven> damn its raining hardoutside right now.
07:09:35 <Avatar> er? gold spent
07:09:40 <Avatar> that's not for items less than 25
07:09:56 <Avatar> or has that changed since the rule was made
07:12:32 <Mekkis> While petrified, the petrifern can’t move or take any
07:12:32 <Mekkis> actions. A petrifern can remain petrified indefinitely, and
07:12:32 <Mekkis> can cease its petrification as a standard action.
07:12:48 <Mekkis> So it can never cease its petrification
07:17:51 <Mekkis> how does Magic Jar work?
07:19:46 <Mekkis> Can a sorcerer using Magic Jar cast spells after possessing someone?
07:19:56 <s_gmusic> !spell Magic Jar
07:19:57 <diebot> s_gmusic, MAGIC JAR necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5, alchemist 5, summoner 4, witch 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one creature Comp: V, S, F (a gem or crystal worth at least 100 gp) Duration: 1 hour/level or until you return to your body Save: Will negates; see text SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
07:19:57 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/magic_jar.html
07:22:43 <s_gmusic> reads kind of like a polymorph effect. I'd say you can cast YOUR spells using the body, but the description explicitly states you can't cast the host's spells.
07:24:20 <Mekkis> you still need to track gold spent, you just don't need to write the item on the ITS
07:31:50 <Mekkis> so you'd want to prepare the body with a spell component pouch :P
07:33:44 <s_gmusic> If you could manage that, sure.
07:35:46 <s_gmusic> you need line of sight to possess someone, so placing the pouch under or near the Jar would do it as long as you remember where you hid it.
07:37:59 <Avatar> you still need to track it, just not on the sheet made for tracking
07:38:04 <Avatar> does that sound right
07:44:46 <steven> i just track everything
07:46:24 <Avatar> so do I, but the rule says you don't need to
07:46:33 <Avatar> so basically everything <25gp is free if you want
07:47:13 <steven> thats not what the rule states.
07:47:29 <steven> everything no matter the cost is free if you want.
07:47:53 <steven> its cheating and totes not fucking cool, but hey... whateves
07:59:39 <Mekkis> Looking at Soulswitch
08:06:07 <Mekkis> So, handed out some mead at Conquest this morning while running Hall of Drunken Heroes
08:06:31 <Mekkis> Brought a squeaky dog-chew-toy to use as a quasit prop :P
08:11:59 <Mekkis> hey steven: you know the Slave Ships of Absalom -> Slave master's Mirror scenarios?
08:12:12 * steven shrugs
08:12:35 <Mekkis> Is there going to be a third scenario in that plotline?
08:12:44 <Mekkis> and is it going to be level 3-7?
08:17:14 <steven> let me pull out my crystal ball.
08:17:30 <steven> !rng yes no
08:17:30 <diebot> steven, yes
08:17:41 <steven> there most certainly will be a 3rd part
08:18:01 <steven> !rng 1-5 3-7 5-9 7-11 12+
08:18:01 <diebot> steven, 3-7
08:18:10 <steven> and it will more then likely be a 3-7
08:18:24 <Mekkis> diebot, steven's oracle.
08:18:37 <steven> you know it!
08:18:51 <Mekkis> steven, let me introduce you to VL of Adelaide, Denzil.
08:19:06 <steven> if i did know i would be unable to tell you because of the NDA
08:19:07 <Mekkis> He's in my hotel room at the moment.
08:19:31 <steven> sup denzil
08:20:09 <Mekkis> sup
08:20:44 <steven> any information that i possess is only able to be shared once it is shared on the paizo website.
08:20:58 <Mekkis> is that what the NDA says?
08:22:27 <steven> yeah pretty much.
08:23:19 <steven> NDAs are fun.
08:26:16 <steven> 700mb till im playin me some heroes of might and magic 6
08:50:16 <Mekkis> Can I apply Part 3 of Rise of the Runelords to a new character?
08:53:29 <Avatar> I thought there was already a 3rd part
08:53:53 <Avatar> slave pits of absalom
08:54:18 <Avatar> steven: I'm only looking at the rule about how you don't have to track it
08:54:22 <Avatar> that basically means it's free
08:54:36 <Avatar> if you're not tracking it, then the cost is irrelevant
08:55:03 <steven> no
08:55:03 <Avatar> it's not cheating if that's what the campaign co-ordinator says is fine
09:02:50 <steven> Really its like saying the government doesnt make me track the money i spend on purchases of over 100 bucks, so i can steal gas a gallon at a time.
09:03:23 <Avatar> no because the service stations will call the cops if they don't get their dosh
09:04:02 <Avatar> in this case the markets will let you take whatever you want and if you don't give them the money, apparently nobody will notice
09:04:06 <Avatar> or care
09:04:16 <Avatar> but only up to 25gp
09:05:12 <Avatar> it doesn't make sense, why bother track the high gold items if you're not going to track the low gold items
09:05:20 <Avatar> surely it's all or nothing
09:05:30 <Avatar> or that 25gp just doesn't matter at all
09:06:35 <steven> you still have to pay the gold... they just arent going to make you keep track of having to purchase 1 acid flask, 1 alchemist fire, 1 liquid ice and 20 arrows. becaue technically that takes up 4 slots on the on the inventory tracking sheet, and for someone like a ranger tracking every purchase of 20 arrows i a real pain in the ass.
09:06:54 <steven> just because you dont have to track something doesnt mean you get to steal it.
09:07:06 <Avatar> but you're not tracking it
09:07:20 <Avatar> if you're not tracking it, then you're not paying the gold
09:07:28 <Avatar> otherwise what's the point of the ITS at all
09:07:35 <steven> you are paying the gold, or you dont have the item.
09:07:47 <Avatar> then you should be tracking it
09:11:42 <steven> im just gonna go play skyrim
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09:50:55 <Mekkis> Avatar, do what I did and make your own
09:51:18 <Mekkis> put it on the back of a clipboard: it's really useful that way
09:51:40 <Avatar> I use CA on my laptop
09:51:52 <Avatar> or just a paper and pencil
09:52:10 <Avatar> $20 is steep
09:52:27 <Avatar> I can't remember what yours looks like?
09:52:44 <Avatar> and how much did yours cost?
09:53:35 <Mekkis> clipboard ($5: I got the deluxe model) with a piece of metal shoved in the back (free), and some whiteboard vinyl on top ($3 off ebay)
09:53:54 <Avatar> never heard of whiteboard vinyl
09:54:01 <Avatar> or a deluxe clipboard
09:54:06 <Mekkis> it's basically a self-adhesive whiteboard
09:54:31 <Mekkis> the deluxe model has a pocket on the front for my templates, and a pocket inside for extra sheets.
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09:58:03 <Avatar> so basically it has a pocket on the front
09:58:09 <Avatar> a regular clipboard has a pocket inside
09:58:18 <Mekkis> sure
09:58:28 <Mekkis> the one inside is full-length
09:58:36 <Mekkis> as I said, deluxe model :P
10:01:20 <Mekkis> http://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/marbig-clipfolder-a4-insert-pocket-black-ac445000bk?searchTerm=clipboard
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10:16:22 <Mekkis> Let's get together and burn some Ifrits!
10:20:53 <Avatar> what does that mean sorry
10:23:13 <Avatar> someone in melbourne had an undine caster that relied on water-based spells like hydraulic torrent
10:23:20 <Avatar> worked really effectively
10:25:45 <Mekkis> I mean, we should take the boons, and introduce fire
10:34:46 <Avatar> pass
10:45:49 <Mekkis> you're not fun :P
10:47:00 <Avatar> if you have an extra trait boon you can have my ifrit boon and do whatever you like with it
10:47:18 <Mekkis> I already have three
10:47:26 <Avatar> why not make it four ?
10:47:32 <Avatar> or five
10:47:36 <Mekkis> fire is dangerous, man
10:47:47 <Avatar> it was your suggestion !
10:48:48 <Mekkis> Hmm. Amazon is spending $$$ on game development
10:50:27 <s_gmusic> I have an ifrit, undine, extra traits, and few other boons. Don't think I'm ever going to use them. :/
10:50:48 <Avatar> want to swap your extra traits?
10:50:53 <Avatar> I'll use them
10:55:42 <Mekkis> What do you think about buying a wagon with arrow slits in the walls?
10:55:51 <Mekkis> then putting an archer in there
10:56:36 <Avatar> the archer can't see what he's shooting at
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15:25:56 <Mekkis> Trying to decide who Deceased would take
15:26:14 <Mekkis> I think he'd probably raise a cleric
15:35:37 <ulzef> isnt Deceased a wizard though
15:42:47 <Mekkis> yeah, he is
15:43:24 <Mekkis> but, ulzef, would he consider raising another?
17:13:47 <Mekkis> While petrified, the petrifern can’t move or take any
17:13:47 <Mekkis> actions. A petrifern can remain petrified indefinitely, and
17:13:47 <Mekkis> can cease its petrification as a standard action.
17:14:02 <Mekkis> So it can never cease its petrification
17:19:06 <Mekkis> how does Magic Jar work?
17:21:01 <Mekkis> Can a sorcerer using Magic Jar cast spells after possessing someone?
17:21:10 <s_gmusic> !spell Magic Jar
17:21:11 <diebot> s_gmusic, MAGIC JAR necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 5, alchemist 5, summoner 4, witch 5 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) one creature Comp: V, S, F (a gem or crystal worth at least 100 gp) Duration: 1 hour/level or until you return to your body Save: Will negates; see text SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
17:21:11 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/magic_jar.html
17:23:57 <s_gmusic> reads kind of like a polymorph effect. I'd say you can cast YOUR spells using the body, but the description explicitly states you can't cast the host's spells.
17:33:04 <Mekkis> so you'd want to prepare the body with a spell component pouch :P
17:34:56 <s_gmusic> If you could manage that, sure.
17:37:00 <s_gmusic> you need line of sight to possess someone, so placing the pouch under or near the Jar would do it as long as you remember where you hid it.
18:00:54 <Mekkis> Looking at Soulswitch
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18:14:43 <Mekkis> Avatar, if, hypothetically speaking, there was a stat increase in it for his apprentice, what sort of character would Buck take as an apprentice?
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18:19:13 <Mekkis> evidently, not gunslinging
18:29:31 <ulzef> mekkis what should i do while the smite servers are down?
18:36:01 <Mekkis> the smite servers?
18:36:14 <Mekkis> pull out an adamantine weapond?
18:41:28 <Mekkis> ulzef, Also, it seems that the Spirit of Freedom doesn't have a preacher
18:41:52 <Mekkis> And it would be someone like Deceased to have Ideas on what sort of preacher it would be :P
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18:50:30 <Mekkis> How long was that split for?
18:51:30 <Mekkis> Can I apply Part 3 of Rise of the Runelords to a new character?
19:07:18 <Steven1> as long as it needeed to be!
19:07:52 <Steven1> also... Sword of the Open road on a ranger with favored enemy human vs an aspis agent.
19:08:27 <Steven1> level 5 w/ lead blades +14 to hit nonlethaly 2d6+17+2d6bane
19:08:37 <Steven1> just fuckin stupid awesome.
19:09:22 <Steven1> i crit with one hit and killed somebody outright with nonlethal damage... my character actually felt bad
19:11:45 <Mekkis> Wow. Conversion channel is PFS legal
19:12:36 <Mekkis> Steven1, what are the rules for wearing a phylactary in order to meet channeling prereqs?
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19:27:40 <steven> mekkis... common sense.
19:28:23 <Avatar> lol
19:30:10 <Mekkis> steven, so in general, if an item grants an ability, it is sufficient to qualify for a feat?
19:30:34 <steven> if it grants an ability yes.
19:30:53 <steven> phylactary does not grant the ability, just gives additional dice.
19:32:47 <Mekkis> so you CAN take a feat that requires 5d6 channelling with 5 levels of cleric and a phylactary?
19:33:25 <steven> last i checked. yes
19:34:50 <Mekkis> Are there any other ways of increasing chanelling damage?
19:35:41 <steven> aasimar
19:35:46 <Mekkis> oh?
19:35:54 <steven> life oracle
19:36:11 <Mekkis> ah
19:36:20 <Mekkis> the favoured class bonux thing
19:36:35 <steven> sun domain
19:36:39 <steven> um....
19:36:57 <steven> there is proly one more i cant remember it though
19:39:44 <steven> i need to build an apprentice for my necromancer.
19:40:54 <steven> my necromancer was the apprentice for my life oracle... he was researching the secrets of life... tricked poor trusting honey.
19:41:26 <Mekkis> Well, I suppose I can live with getting it at level 9
19:41:47 <Mekkis> Do you lose access to the feat if you remove the phylactary?
19:42:54 <steven> you can no longer make use of it until you again meet the prerequisites
19:43:11 <Mekkis> hmmm
19:43:20 <steven> like if you take str damage and go below 13str
19:43:28 <steven> you cant make use of power attack until your str goes back up
19:43:31 <Mekkis> that's a bad example, steven
19:43:32 <Mekkis> :P
19:43:41 <Mekkis> str damage doesn't affect str
19:44:34 <steven> pretty sure it does.
19:45:16 <Mekkis> nope. Taking ability damage leaves the actual ability score unchanged
19:45:28 <Mekkis> p556 of the core rulebook
19:45:37 <Mekkis> but I do get what you're saying
19:47:29 <Mekkis> just like carrying capacity is unchanged
19:48:47 <steven> back.
19:48:51 <steven> yeah, im thinking drain.
19:49:23 <Mekkis> yep
19:50:58 <Avatar> I didn't realise magnetic tracking pads are $20
19:51:02 <Avatar> that's crazy
19:52:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, do what I did and make your own
19:52:27 <steven> i have a level 6 blob to build
19:52:35 <Mekkis> put it on the back of a clipboard: it's really useful that way
19:52:51 <Mekkis> rogue
19:52:55 <Avatar> I use CA on my laptop
19:53:06 <Avatar> or just a paper and pencil
19:53:11 <steven> not gonna build a rogue.
19:53:24 <Avatar> $20 is steep
19:53:41 <Avatar> I can't remember what yours looks like?
19:53:58 <Avatar> and how much did yours cost?
19:54:09 <steven> gotta build something ahtuz would apprentice.
19:54:09 <Mekkis> sunder-focused elvish fighter
19:54:31 <Mekkis> Continually complains about "shoddy human workmanship"
19:54:50 <Mekkis> clipboard ($5: I got the deluxe model) with a piece of metal shoved in the back (free), and some whiteboard vinyl on top ($3 off ebay)
19:54:51 <steven> I already have that in the core campaign.
19:55:08 <Avatar> never heard of whiteboard vinyl
19:55:15 <Avatar> or a deluxe clipboard
19:55:19 <Mekkis> Does the necromancer in Confirmation have a spellbook?
19:55:21 <Mekkis> it's basically a self-adhesive whiteboard
19:55:41 <steven> follows Alseta... wears a mask... bad mouths everyone thats not an elf or a dwarf.
19:55:46 <Mekkis> the deluxe model has a pocket on the front for my templates, and a pocket inside for extra sheets.
19:56:14 <steven> calls them round ears
19:56:42 <Mekkis> Gnomish ninja who uses a gnome hooked hammer
19:57:14 <Mekkis> Brevoyan two-weapon fighting oratory bard.
19:57:24 <Mekkis> Wielding sickle and hammer.
19:58:26 <steven> int based cavalier that uses a bow?
19:59:06 <Mekkis> make a Red Mantis Assassin (the concept, not the class obviously)
19:59:18 <Avatar> so basically it has a pocket on the front
19:59:18 <Mekkis> TWF sawtooth saber fighter
19:59:23 <Avatar> a regular clipboard has a pocket inside
19:59:29 <steven> shoots people with focused shot for int to damage
19:59:29 <Mekkis> maybe not the fighter class, of course
19:59:34 <Mekkis> sure
19:59:39 <Mekkis> !feat focused shot
19:59:41 <diebot> Mekkis, FOCUSED SHOT [Combat]Prereq: Int 13, Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot. Your anatomical insight adds deadliness to your shots.
19:59:41 <diebot> Benefit: As a standard action, you may make an attack with a bow or crossbow and add your Intelligence modifier on the damage roll. You must be within 30 feet of your target to deal this extra damage. Creatures immune to critical hits and sneak attacks are immune to this extra damage.
19:59:41 <diebot> Special: Starting at 2nd level, a ranger with the archery combat style may select Focused Shot as a combat style feat. Source: APG
19:59:44 <Mekkis> the one inside is full-length
19:59:52 <Mekkis> as I said, deluxe model :P
20:00:16 <Mekkis> so no full-attacks?
20:01:14 <Mekkis> Witch with melded familiar. Claim to be half-doppelganger
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20:05:01 <steven> heh.... maybe a paladin.
20:05:23 <Mekkis> Pretty sure you can't start with more than 30 int
20:07:13 <steven> yeah, but i'll prolly spend the +2 bonus on int.
20:08:10 <Mekkis> so he loathes his fellow adventurers?
20:08:54 <steven> yes.
20:09:31 <steven> he treats them all like children
20:09:32 <Mekkis> fair enough
20:09:36 <steven> "Oh... Look, you learned how to speak."
20:09:45 <Mekkis> children who have saved his life?
20:10:02 <steven> he has never been unconscious.
20:10:06 <steven> ever
20:10:09 <Mekkis> oh
20:12:34 <Avatar> to each his own I guess
20:13:41 <Avatar> I have yet another ifrit I need to trade away
20:17:37 <Mekkis> Let's get together and burn some Ifrits!
20:22:08 <Avatar> what does that mean sorry
20:24:27 <Avatar> someone in melbourne had an undine caster that relied on water-based spells like hydraulic torrent
20:24:32 <Avatar> worked really effectively
20:26:59 <Mekkis> I mean, we should take the boons, and introduce fire
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20:30:53 <steven> obviously he should be the Seneschal for ahtuz.
20:31:07 <Mekkis> you playing any of these APs in PFS mode anyway?
20:32:02 <steven> no we arent playing reign of winter or shattered star.
20:32:17 <steven> our docket is pretty full for the next year or two when it comes to APs
20:33:17 <steven> we are currently in skull and shackles, then its going to be council of theives followed by hells rebels once it comes out.
20:33:34 <steven> and supposedly we are going to be doing mummy's mask sometime.
20:35:45 <steven> i think this character will be some sort of dispassionate doctor
20:35:51 <Mekkis> how many of your characters have Traveller's Anytools?
20:36:00 <Avatar> pass
20:36:48 <steven> none of them.
20:37:15 <Mekkis> okay
20:39:10 <steven> alright... a Seneschal.
20:39:20 <steven> obviously has profession doctor.
20:39:38 <Mekkis> and a cart full of alchemical supplies?
20:40:02 <steven> might just have to be a long lived race so i can get breadth of experience.
20:40:10 <steven> make all profession checks.
20:40:13 <Mekkis> Gnome!
20:40:55 <steven> i could rock a gnome.
20:42:14 <steven> hmmm... im thinking a dwarf.
20:42:37 <steven> just so i can be like, "I'm not as smart as Ahtuz, but im prettier."
20:42:40 <Mekkis> Gnome is objectively better than dwarf
20:43:27 <steven> I've already got a couple gnomes.
20:43:31 <steven> i only have 1 dwarf
20:43:56 <Mekkis> Played Glories of the Past 3 on Sunday night. My cleric had three spells he hadn't cast
20:44:00 <Mekkis> by the end of it
20:45:35 <steven> i tend to have a lot of spells by the end of scenarios.
20:45:44 <Mekkis> so do I
20:45:44 <steven> once i get past level 3 or so.
20:45:48 <Mekkis> this was level 8
20:46:29 <steven> lets leave this shit up to fate!
20:46:36 <steven> !rng dwarf elf gnome
20:46:36 <diebot> steven, dwarf
20:46:42 <steven> looks like a dwarf mang.
20:47:03 <Mekkis> you're not fun :P
20:47:53 <steven> dwarf seneschal
20:48:15 <Avatar> if you have an extra trait boon you can have my ifrit boon and do whatever you like with it
20:48:32 <Mekkis> I already have three
20:48:40 <Avatar> why not make it four ?
20:48:47 <Avatar> or five
20:48:48 <steven> mebe an alchemist.
20:48:51 <Mekkis> fire is dangerous, man
20:49:01 <Avatar> it was your suggestion !
20:49:43 <Mekkis> Wow. Cold iron powder gives you +1 to dispel checks!
20:50:03 <Mekkis> Hmm. Amazon is spending $$$ on game development
20:51:41 <s_gmusic> I have an ifrit, undine, extra traits, and few other boons. Don't think I'm ever going to use them. :/
20:52:03 <Avatar> want to swap your extra traits?
20:52:07 <Avatar> I'll use them
20:56:57 <Mekkis> What do you think about buying a wagon with arrow slits in the walls?
20:57:06 <Mekkis> then putting an archer in there
20:57:50 <Avatar> the archer can't see what he's shooting at
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23:45:27 <Mekkis> you can see through arrow slits
23:57:52 <Avatar> well what's the question
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