// #d&d — 2015-04-10
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03:47:10 <Avatar> apparently in core you can choose from the bestiary
03:56:02 <Avatar> you passed on o/ to the localish VL?
04:44:12 <steven> yup
04:44:18 <steven> its kind of my thing
04:46:01 <Avatar> do you mean you
04:46:12 <Avatar> as in you passed on what he said to you, to you
04:46:30 <steven> its a secret that cannot be known by lesser kin
04:46:41 <Avatar> ya I think I just decoded your secret
04:46:54 <steven> you think you did
04:46:55 <steven> but you didnt
04:51:47 <steven> suppose i should start a fire.
04:52:24 <steven> its like 4C outside.
05:00:37 <Mekkis> it's about 4°C outside here too
05:03:35 <steven> I'm prefectly fine, but im sure i'll hear abotu how cold it is.
05:06:42 <steven> maybe I'll just get it ready so they can light it when they get up and cry bout how chilly it i.
05:06:44 <steven> is
05:20:21 <Mekkis> set them on fire
05:28:55 <Avatar> what's with you wanting to set everything on fire
05:42:58 <Mekkis> fire solves all problems
06:00:22 <steven> it really does.
06:00:37 <Mekkis> :P
06:02:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, on your watermarked PDFs, is the watermark present on the inside of the cover?
06:23:07 <Avatar> dunno, I don't pay that much attention to it
06:23:15 <Avatar> it doesn't appear on the chronicle sheet
06:23:46 <Brunius_> Mekkis: On my bestiary it's on both the cover and inside cover
06:27:08 <Avatar> apparently in core you can choose from the bestiary
06:39:07 <Avatar> I can't believe once upon a time I struggled to get a character to tier 7-11
06:39:16 <steven> heh
06:39:17 <Avatar> now I can't keep my characters out of 7-11
06:39:34 <steven> i feel ya mang... most of my characters are in the 7-11 range now.
06:39:54 <Avatar> how is that happening
06:40:11 <Avatar> always having to slink back into playing low tier
06:40:18 <Avatar> low subtier
06:41:33 <steven> 8/24 characters are level 5 or less in regular pfs
06:42:36 <Steven1> cool.
06:42:42 <steven> then have a 6 and three 2s for core.
06:42:45 <Steven1> i think that was in the blog.
06:42:56 <Avatar> it wasn't clear in the blog, but mike commented
06:43:24 <Avatar> basically it's another fairly important ruling buried in a thread lost to oblivion
06:43:32 <Avatar> until gencon
06:43:40 <Steven1> If a Core Rulebook option advises that something found in the Core Rulebook is clarified in the Bestiary 1, then the player uses that specific option out of the Bestiary 1 to meet the requirement set forth in the Core Rulebook. That would include, but is not limited to, animal companions, special abilities, summon spells, etc... Only the Bestiary 1 is available for these extra options outside of the Core Rulebook.
06:43:50 <Steven1> thats pretty clear.
06:44:32 <Avatar> is that in the blog
06:44:38 <Steven1> yeah
06:44:43 <Avatar> well shiver me timbers
06:45:02 <Avatar> I don't know that it's "clarified" in bestiary 1
06:45:12 <Avatar> but it does list those as examples
06:45:19 <Avatar> so I guess that's what he meant
06:45:39 <Steven1> in beast 1 is lists the ACs available.
06:45:51 <Avatar> it lists extra ACs
06:45:57 <Avatar> lol core.
06:46:32 <steven> i love me somre core.
06:46:44 <steven> avatar! level 6 protegee character... go!
06:47:27 <Steven1> I don't remember, i've built like 3 druids now and i always end up rebuilding into domain at 2nd level.
06:47:30 <steven> apprenticed to Ahtuz, high intelligence wizard.
06:47:40 <Steven1> I really dislike having to run an AC because i always forget about it.
06:47:52 <steven> necromancer, worshiper of lissala
06:48:01 <Avatar> I had to use herolab to work out the stats for an AC once I think
06:48:09 <Avatar> or it might have been my familiar
06:48:19 <Avatar> the rules for it were really unclear
06:48:20 <Steven1> my core druid has a dog. because they are super uncomplicated.
06:48:31 <Avatar> but what about a giant frog
06:48:31 <Steven1> zero special abilities.
06:48:35 <Avatar> it can swallow whole bad guys
06:48:39 <Avatar> what?
06:48:44 <Avatar> and hits touch AC and has pull
06:48:59 <Avatar> if I had a frog that would eat bad guys, I would be saying, hey, cool.
06:49:00 <Steven1> see... special abilities.
06:49:12 <Avatar> I would say it every time my frog ate something
06:49:14 <Steven1> that aint me.
06:49:21 <Avatar> I think it would be you
06:49:27 <Avatar> you would be all hey, cool
06:49:43 <Avatar> my frog would be my character and the character would be the companion
06:49:53 <Avatar> oh he can cast druid spells? so what
06:50:03 <steven> mebe an alchemist.
06:50:16 <Avatar> my frog's companion casts CLW on it
06:50:48 <Steven1> yeah, see that aint me.
06:50:57 <Steven1> I like my halfling
06:50:59 <Mekkis> Wow. Cold iron powder gives you +1 to dispel checks!
06:51:12 <steven> i have a level 6 character to build
06:51:41 <steven> its my eyes of the 10 protege character
06:53:05 <Avatar> that sounds extremely spoilery
06:53:51 <steven> so many people know about it now its not a spoiler anymore.
06:54:16 <steven> telling people what they have to do to get it is still a spoiler.
06:54:20 <Avatar> it's not spoilery anymore now that you've told me
06:54:28 <Avatar> right while I'm in the middle of the damn thing
06:55:02 <steven> i thought you finished it like two weeks back... might have been mekkis
06:55:08 <steven> balls.
06:55:28 <Avatar> yeah mekkis was talking about something like that last night actually
06:56:17 <steven> anyways... level 6 character
06:56:25 <steven> I'm thinking multiclass.
06:57:06 <steven> no fewer then 3 classes.
06:57:21 <Avatar> skald/brawler/investigator
06:57:39 <Steven1> my awesome AC Dog named Patches.
06:57:46 <steven> what no prestige class.
06:59:10 <steven> hmmmm.... mebe i should use my aasimar boon.
07:00:40 <Avatar> want an ifrit
07:00:42 <Avatar> or a sylph
07:00:50 <Avatar> I have one or two
07:00:52 <steven> i already have thsoe.
07:01:02 <steven> i mostly sit on my boons.
07:01:03 <Avatar> you can have more
07:01:09 <Avatar> cool pass me an extra trait
07:01:25 <steven> i'd have to mail it.
07:01:35 <Avatar> just scan it
07:01:45 <steven> i was told i cannot do that.
07:01:52 <Avatar> by who
07:02:31 <steven> campaign leadership
07:02:38 <Avatar> mike?
07:04:32 <steven> no
07:04:46 <Avatar> john?
07:05:12 <steven> theres conflicting quotes, and im not going to send one out until it gets settled.
07:05:24 <Avatar> I'll settle it, you can do it
07:06:00 <steven> lol
07:06:01 <Steven1> +3 to hit for 1d4+1 damage.
07:06:09 <steven> it used to be like that.
07:06:24 <steven> a lot of things used to be a just do it situation.
07:07:08 <Avatar> +3 to bite for 1d4+1 blood
07:07:54 <Steven1> it really is a horrible AC lol
07:08:01 <Avatar> this one still is!
07:08:04 <steven> ugh i'll have to go through my pile of boons.
07:08:09 <Steven1> anyways... played Day of the Demon Tonight.
07:08:22 <Steven1> in Core
07:08:24 <Steven1> zero deaths.
07:09:03 <Steven1> one of the guys at the shop was going to play and i was going to GM
07:09:17 <Steven1> but he only had a level 3, and was going to have to play in the 6-7 tier.
07:09:23 <Steven1> and i told him, he would probably die.
07:09:26 <Avatar> lemme know which one you want
07:09:52 <Steven1> so instead he GM'd and everyone lived.
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07:10:57 <Steven1> i did hit the boss with a thunder stone. it failed fort save and then proceeded to roll a 17 and a 4 on percentiles, so failed to cast because she was deaf.
07:11:10 <steven> 140 boons, no extra trait.
07:11:20 <Avatar> wow
07:12:33 <steven> every convention i print out 5 copies of the boons i get sent and then for every table i have them roll a d20 and on a 19-20 i hand them a boon.
07:13:06 <Steven1> was good times.
07:13:48 <Avatar> what good is silence if you're using deafen
07:15:45 <Avatar> our VC gives 1 person at every table a boon
07:15:57 <Avatar> does this random minigame thingamabob
07:16:44 <steven> everything i've been told bout 10% per slot of getting a boon.
07:17:41 <steven> but if somebody comes and plays ever slot, i usually slip em a boon anyways.
07:17:53 <Avatar> I think it still works out somehow
07:18:16 <steven> but yeah, i've got 140 boons
07:18:17 <Avatar> 10% per slot per person is about right
07:18:52 <Avatar> impressive
07:18:58 <Avatar> the 20% chance never does a damn thing for me
07:19:07 <Avatar> which is a real problem because it's often my primary defense
07:19:14 <Steven1> i was super excited about it.
07:19:29 <steven> some of them are my personal boons, which are prolly around 40 or so.
07:20:13 <Steven1> so i guess we're going to play bonekeep with these characters.
07:20:27 <Avatar> it's really a pain when you say to the GM "wait wait! roll 20% miss chance!" and then he rolls, and goes "ok I hit" over and over and over and over
07:20:27 <Mekkis> you deafen them, so they don't realise they've been silenced
07:20:56 <Avatar> I mean statisically he should have failed by accident at that stage
07:21:50 <steven> i just dont use that many of the boons i get.
07:22:03 <Avatar> I don't think anyone does
07:22:13 <steven> only boon i've actually been enthused about was the GM star recharge.
07:22:29 <Avatar> I think I would trade that away
07:22:34 <Steven1> yeah
07:22:42 <Avatar> replaying scenarios doesn't do it for me
07:23:11 <steven> and then i found out i have one boon that if i am an elf and have an animal companion that is a bird i calculate its effective level as character level +1
07:23:25 <Steven1> i dislike when a gm has a screen and has like 4-5 creatures w/ 3 attacks each and never misses due to concealment/total concealment.
07:23:28 <Avatar> are you hoping they fail their spellcraft check
07:23:36 <steven> which im applying to my core character since boon companion isnt available.
07:23:46 <Avatar> just a -5 penalty with the deafen
07:23:52 <Steven1> and its like... okay you had 15 attacks 10 of which hit and none of them missed.
07:24:05 <Steven1> okay... okay. i can buy that.
07:24:08 <Steven1> next round same thing
07:24:17 <Steven1> and your like... hmm... that seems odd but okay.
07:24:28 <Steven1> and then third round same thing... I'm callin bullshit.
07:25:00 <steven> so at level 12 my eagle will be at effective druid level 4
07:25:21 <Mekkis> steven, do you have that boon that gives you a Dragon Empires Primer trait?
07:25:40 <steven> i dunno, i was only looking for extra traits.
07:26:09 <Steven1> I've had a gm that over the course of a session never missed... not one time. He always hit. even my AC of 28 in tier 8-9.
07:26:18 <Steven1> I was the tank.
07:26:49 <Steven1> aparantly AC only worked when you could see the dicerolls.
07:27:30 <Mekkis> no
07:27:46 <steven> avatar... having troubles making this skald/brawler/investigator
07:27:47 <Mekkis> just do it out ofosight
07:27:51 <Steven1> that type of thing i why i roll out in the open at conventions and gamedays and if i need to fudge a number to keep someone alive i just change numbers on the statblock.
07:28:26 <Steven1> and if somebody calls out how the math is different, i just tell em not to worry bout it unless they want to use a 5k diamond.
07:30:34 <Avatar> it wasn't a serious suggestion
07:30:41 <Avatar> I played an investigator in confirmation the other day
07:30:45 <Avatar> really didn't like it
07:31:03 <Avatar> I'm glad I didn't lock myself into it with my level 2 character
07:32:23 <steven> damn it man... i took it serious.
07:32:39 <Steven1> think i've figured out what i'm going to build for my level 6 character.
07:32:51 <Steven1> gonna build my arcane archer from kingmaker.
07:34:04 <steven> i think im gonna make my oread elemental body exploit character
07:34:10 <Avatar> gotcha
07:40:41 <steven> level 11 he is just always an earth elemental
07:44:14 <Mekkis> they just feel that they've been constantly failing their 20%
07:48:11 <steven> dunno if i wanna go with arcanist, sorcerer/DD, or wizard
07:50:01 <Mekkis> Back in the land of the Living and FAST internets
08:09:03 <Steven1> or.... i could build a pain taster.
08:09:46 <Steven1> since im sure my wizard would punish him severely for fuck ups.
08:10:50 <steven> methinks Arcanist is the way to go.
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08:38:11 <Steven1> damn whip proficiency is tough to get without burning a feat
08:55:13 <Mekkis> is Roc a legal animal companion for Core? It's in the Bestiary
09:49:11 <Mekkis> or a level dip
09:50:38 <Mekkis> I like the deafen + silence combo :P
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17:03:00 <Avatar> isn't it listed somewhere as an animal you can take
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17:48:03 <Steven1> yo
17:50:32 <Avatar> ya
18:03:22 <Steven1> how goes it mang.
18:03:51 <Avatar> I'd say it's as valid a source as a monster is for a wizard's summon spell
18:06:04 <Avatar> a giant frog animal companion would be pretty cool
18:06:11 <Avatar> swallow the bad guys whole
18:27:50 <Mekkis> moin
18:28:08 <Mekkis> I actually used that in QQ
19:03:56 <Steven1> i just hit myself right in the face with a piece of wood.
19:04:50 <Steven1> choppin wood and a piece flew off and ricochet
19:06:32 <steven> in core you're limited to the selections in the core rule book.
19:07:00 <Mekkis> lol
19:08:17 <Steven1> sittin here now, it is pretty fun... im pretty sure i woke up the neighbor with my cussing though
19:08:25 <Steven1> funny even
19:19:10 <Steven1> t-11hours 41 minutes
19:19:17 <Steven1> SKULL AND SHACKLES!
19:27:02 <Steven1> i might be showing up to that with a shiner
19:41:57 <Mekkis> I'll shine you
20:03:10 <Steven1> corn or some fancy hipster shine?
20:50:46 <StevenM> down chillin at the shop
21:00:14 <steven> hey
21:13:51 <Goya> o/
21:37:51 <steven> how goes it man.
21:37:59 <steven> i passed that info along to the localish vL
23:27:45 <Mekkis> neither
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