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03:56:02 <Avatar> you passed on o/ to the localish VL?
04:44:12 <steven> yup
04:44:18 <steven> its kind of my thing
04:46:01 <Avatar> do you mean you
04:46:12 <Avatar> as in you passed on what he said to you, to you
04:46:30 <steven> its a secret that cannot be known by lesser kin
04:46:41 <Avatar> ya I think I just decoded your secret
04:46:54 <steven> you think you did
04:46:55 <steven> but you didnt
04:51:47 <steven> suppose i should start a fire.
04:52:24 <steven> its like 4C outside.
05:00:37 <Mekkis> it's about 4°C outside here too
05:03:35 <steven> I'm prefectly fine, but im sure i'll hear abotu how cold it is.
05:06:42 <steven> maybe I'll just get it ready so they can light it when they get up and cry bout how chilly it i.
05:06:44 <steven> is
05:20:21 <Mekkis> set them on fire
05:28:55 <Avatar> what's with you wanting to set everything on fire
05:42:58 <Mekkis> fire solves all problems
06:00:22 <steven> it really does.
06:00:37 <Mekkis> :P
06:02:21 <Mekkis> Avatar, on your watermarked PDFs, is the watermark present on the inside of the cover?
06:10:47 <Mekkis> fair enough
06:10:50 <steven> "Oh... Look, you learned how to speak."
06:11:00 <Mekkis> children who have saved his life?
06:11:16 <steven> he has never been unconscious.
06:11:21 <steven> ever
06:11:24 <Mekkis> oh
06:12:00 <steven> mostly he lets the dumb people walk up front and distract people while he eats cupcakes and brownies.
06:13:33 <steven> and then when someone attacks him, his contigency and spell storing armor go off and he gets 7d6 vampiric touch temp hp, and false life cast on him.
06:14:36 <steven> and things dont attack him again because it hurts too much... course usually i defensively cast persistent suffocation and they are dying at his feet.
06:14:45 <steven> after they attack him.
06:15:17 <Mekkis> it's almost like you, me and Avatar are playing three different games.
06:15:48 <steven> he doesnt usually do much in combat unless something makes him mad... then it dies.
06:17:33 <steven> once someone called him an idiot... that person at the end of the day was blinded, deafened, thrice cursed, and hobbled.
06:17:42 <steven> boneshattered his knees.
06:18:10 <Mekkis> seems rather antisocial. Considered not taking a protoge?
06:18:27 <steven> i've had the boon for 8 months now.
06:18:46 <Mekkis> ah
06:19:04 <Mekkis> when does the cookie wear off?
06:19:14 <steven> but he is a venture captain... so probably should impart some of his wisdom to the best of the idiots.
06:19:22 <steven> it wore off back in august.
06:19:52 <steven> his int is 36 currently.
06:20:30 <Mekkis> what's his wisdom :P
06:20:38 <steven> started 22+3 level+6headband+5book
06:20:41 <Mekkis> 7?
06:20:45 <steven> 18
06:21:09 <steven> headband of mental prowess
06:21:13 <Mekkis> started at 12?
06:21:17 <steven> int/wis+6
06:21:20 <steven> yup
06:21:21 <Mekkis> ah
06:21:44 <Mekkis> sharing his artificial wisdom
06:21:54 <steven> his next big purchase is going to be a belt of physical perfection +6
06:22:25 <Mekkis> deceased is going for the mirror of mental prowess
06:22:30 <steven> so then his stats will be 18/13/20/26/18/8
06:22:48 <Mekkis> so much faster at moving livestock
06:23:07 <Avatar> dunno, I don't pay that much attention to it
06:23:15 <Avatar> it doesn't appear on the chronicle sheet
06:23:18 <steven> we're going to play reing of winter p5
06:23:29 <steven> in like another month and then my character will be going to lvl17
06:23:36 <steven> then we will do witchwar legacy
06:23:43 <steven> get to 18
06:23:46 <Brunius_> Mekkis: On my bestiary it's on both the cover and inside cover
06:23:54 <steven> last part of shattered star
06:23:57 <steven> level 19
06:24:04 <steven> and then play race for the runecarved key
06:24:11 <steven> and he will be my level 20
06:25:27 <steven> i havent played the character since i got the +6 wis added to the headband.
06:25:47 <steven> so he will probably be a bit less abusive towards the people that are not as smart as him.
06:26:52 <steven> suppose i could upgrade the headband as well...
06:27:00 <steven> get a cha of 14
06:28:05 <steven> ah ha! this character that is level 6
06:28:15 <steven> is my emerald spire guy
06:28:23 <steven> he owns a bunch of land.
06:32:07 <steven> obviously he should be the Seneschal for ahtuz.
06:32:22 <Mekkis> you playing any of these APs in PFS mode anyway?
06:33:16 <steven> no we arent playing reign of winter or shattered star.
06:33:32 <steven> our docket is pretty full for the next year or two when it comes to APs
06:34:32 <steven> we are currently in skull and shackles, then its going to be council of theives followed by hells rebels once it comes out.
06:34:49 <steven> and supposedly we are going to be doing mummy's mask sometime.
06:36:59 <steven> i think this character will be some sort of dispassionate doctor
06:37:07 <Mekkis> how many of your characters have Traveller's Anytools?
06:38:03 <steven> none of them.
06:38:31 <Mekkis> okay
06:39:07 <Avatar> I can't believe once upon a time I struggled to get a character to tier 7-11
06:39:16 <steven> heh
06:39:17 <Avatar> now I can't keep my characters out of 7-11
06:39:34 <steven> i feel ya mang... most of my characters are in the 7-11 range now.
06:39:54 <Avatar> how is that happening
06:40:11 <Avatar> always having to slink back into playing low tier
06:40:18 <Avatar> low subtier
06:40:26 <steven> alright... a Seneschal.
06:40:35 <steven> obviously has profession doctor.
06:40:53 <Mekkis> and a cart full of alchemical supplies?
06:41:17 <steven> might just have to be a long lived race so i can get breadth of experience.
06:41:22 <steven> make all profession checks.
06:41:29 <Mekkis> Gnome!
06:41:33 <steven> 8/24 characters are level 5 or less in regular pfs
06:42:10 <steven> i could rock a gnome.
06:42:42 <steven> then have a 6 and three 2s for core.
06:43:26 <steven> hmmm... im thinking a dwarf.
06:43:52 <steven> just so i can be like, "I'm not as smart as Ahtuz, but im prettier."
06:43:56 <Mekkis> Gnome is objectively better than dwarf
06:44:42 <steven> I've already got a couple gnomes.
06:44:46 <steven> i only have 1 dwarf
06:45:12 <Mekkis> Played Glories of the Past 3 on Sunday night. My cleric had three spells he hadn't cast
06:45:16 <Mekkis> by the end of it
06:45:57 <Avatar> lol core.
06:46:32 <steven> i love me somre core.
06:46:44 <steven> avatar! level 6 protegee character... go!
06:46:51 <steven> i tend to have a lot of spells by the end of scenarios.
06:46:59 <steven> once i get past level 3 or so.
06:46:59 <Mekkis> so do I
06:47:04 <Mekkis> this was level 8
06:47:30 <steven> apprenticed to Ahtuz, high intelligence wizard.
06:47:44 <steven> lets leave this shit up to fate!
06:47:51 <steven> !rng dwarf elf gnome
06:47:51 <diebot> steven, dwarf
06:47:52 <steven> necromancer, worshiper of lissala
06:47:57 <steven> looks like a dwarf mang.
06:48:39 <Avatar> what?
06:49:08 <steven> dwarf seneschal
06:50:03 <steven> mebe an alchemist.
06:50:59 <Mekkis> Wow. Cold iron powder gives you +1 to dispel checks!
06:51:12 <steven> i have a level 6 character to build
06:51:41 <steven> its my eyes of the 10 protege character
06:53:05 <Avatar> that sounds extremely spoilery
06:53:51 <steven> so many people know about it now its not a spoiler anymore.
06:54:16 <steven> telling people what they have to do to get it is still a spoiler.
06:54:20 <Avatar> it's not spoilery anymore now that you've told me
06:54:28 <Avatar> right while I'm in the middle of the damn thing
06:55:02 <steven> i thought you finished it like two weeks back... might have been mekkis
06:55:08 <steven> balls.
06:55:28 <Avatar> yeah mekkis was talking about something like that last night actually
06:56:17 <steven> anyways... level 6 character
06:56:25 <steven> I'm thinking multiclass.
06:57:06 <steven> no fewer then 3 classes.
06:57:21 <Avatar> skald/brawler/investigator
06:57:46 <steven> what no prestige class.
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06:59:10 <steven> hmmmm.... mebe i should use my aasimar boon.
07:00:40 <Avatar> want an ifrit
07:00:42 <Avatar> or a sylph
07:00:50 <Avatar> I have one or two
07:00:52 <steven> i already have thsoe.
07:01:02 <steven> i mostly sit on my boons.
07:01:03 <Avatar> you can have more
07:01:09 <Avatar> cool pass me an extra trait
07:01:25 <steven> i'd have to mail it.
07:01:35 <Avatar> just scan it
07:01:44 <Avatar> isn't it listed somewhere as an animal you can take
07:01:45 <steven> i was told i cannot do that.
07:01:52 <Avatar> by who
07:02:31 <steven> campaign leadership
07:02:38 <Avatar> mike?
07:04:32 <steven> no
07:04:46 <Avatar> john?
07:05:12 <steven> theres conflicting quotes, and im not going to send one out until it gets settled.
07:05:24 <Avatar> I'll settle it, you can do it
07:06:00 <steven> lol
07:06:09 <steven> it used to be like that.
07:06:24 <steven> a lot of things used to be a just do it situation.
07:08:01 <Avatar> this one still is!
07:08:04 <steven> ugh i'll have to go through my pile of boons.
07:09:26 <Avatar> lemme know which one you want
07:11:10 <steven> 140 boons, no extra trait.
07:11:20 <Avatar> wow
07:12:33 <steven> every convention i print out 5 copies of the boons i get sent and then for every table i have them roll a d20 and on a 19-20 i hand them a boon.
07:15:45 <Avatar> our VC gives 1 person at every table a boon
07:15:57 <Avatar> does this random minigame thingamabob
07:16:44 <steven> everything i've been told bout 10% per slot of getting a boon.
07:17:41 <steven> but if somebody comes and plays ever slot, i usually slip em a boon anyways.
07:17:53 <Avatar> I think it still works out somehow
07:18:16 <steven> but yeah, i've got 140 boons
07:18:17 <Avatar> 10% per slot per person is about right
07:19:29 <steven> some of them are my personal boons, which are prolly around 40 or so.
07:21:50 <steven> i just dont use that many of the boons i get.
07:22:03 <Avatar> I don't think anyone does
07:22:13 <steven> only boon i've actually been enthused about was the GM star recharge.
07:22:29 <Avatar> I think I would trade that away
07:22:42 <Avatar> replaying scenarios doesn't do it for me
07:23:11 <steven> and then i found out i have one boon that if i am an elf and have an animal companion that is a bird i calculate its effective level as character level +1
07:23:36 <steven> which im applying to my core character since boon companion isnt available.
07:25:00 <steven> so at level 12 my eagle will be at effective druid level 4
07:25:21 <Mekkis> steven, do you have that boon that gives you a Dragon Empires Primer trait?
07:25:40 <steven> i dunno, i was only looking for extra traits.
07:27:46 <steven> avatar... having troubles making this skald/brawler/investigator
07:30:34 <Avatar> it wasn't a serious suggestion
07:30:41 <Avatar> I played an investigator in confirmation the other day
07:30:45 <Avatar> really didn't like it
07:31:03 <Avatar> I'm glad I didn't lock myself into it with my level 2 character
07:32:23 <steven> damn it man... i took it serious.
07:34:04 <steven> i think im gonna make my oread elemental body exploit character
07:40:41 <steven> level 11 he is just always an earth elemental
07:48:11 <steven> dunno if i wanna go with arcanist, sorcerer/DD, or wizard
07:50:01 <Mekkis> Back in the land of the Living and FAST internets
08:02:35 <Avatar> I'd say it's as valid a source as a monster is for a wizard's summon spell
08:04:48 <Avatar> a giant frog animal companion would be pretty cool
08:04:55 <Avatar> swallow the bad guys whole
08:10:50 <steven> methinks Arcanist is the way to go.
08:55:13 <Mekkis> is Roc a legal animal companion for Core? It's in the Bestiary
09:05:16 <steven> in core you're limited to the selections in the core rule book.
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10:49:30 <StevenM> down chillin at the shop
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17:45:53 <Avatar> apparently in core you can choose from the bestiary
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20:25:51 <Avatar> apparently in core you can choose from the bestiary
20:27:55 steven is now known as Steven1
20:41:19 <Steven1> cool.
20:41:29 <Steven1> i think that was in the blog.
20:41:39 <Avatar> it wasn't clear in the blog, but mike commented
20:42:07 <Avatar> basically it's another fairly important ruling buried in a thread lost to oblivion
20:42:15 <Avatar> until gencon
20:42:23 <Steven1> If a Core Rulebook option advises that something found in the Core Rulebook is clarified in the Bestiary 1, then the player uses that specific option out of the Bestiary 1 to meet the requirement set forth in the Core Rulebook. That would include, but is not limited to, animal companions, special abilities, summon spells, etc... Only the Bestiary 1 is available for these extra options outside of the Core Rulebook.
20:42:33 <Steven1> thats pretty clear.
20:43:15 <Avatar> is that in the blog
20:43:22 <Steven1> yeah
20:43:27 <Avatar> well shiver me timbers
20:43:46 <Avatar> I don't know that it's "clarified" in bestiary 1
20:43:55 <Avatar> but it does list those as examples
20:44:03 <Avatar> so I guess that's what he meant
20:44:23 <Steven1> in beast 1 is lists the ACs available.
20:44:34 <Avatar> it lists extra ACs
20:46:10 <Steven1> I don't remember, i've built like 3 druids now and i always end up rebuilding into domain at 2nd level.
20:46:23 <Steven1> I really dislike having to run an AC because i always forget about it.
20:46:45 <Avatar> I had to use herolab to work out the stats for an AC once I think
20:46:53 <Avatar> or it might have been my familiar
20:47:03 <Avatar> the rules for it were really unclear
20:47:03 <Steven1> my core druid has a dog. because they are super uncomplicated.
20:47:14 <Avatar> but what about a giant frog
20:47:14 <Steven1> zero special abilities.
20:47:18 <Avatar> it can swallow whole bad guys
20:47:27 <Avatar> and hits touch AC and has pull
20:47:43 <Avatar> if I had a frog that would eat bad guys, I would be saying, hey, cool.
20:47:44 <Steven1> see... special abilities.
20:47:56 <Avatar> I would say it every time my frog ate something
20:47:58 <Steven1> that aint me.
20:48:04 <Avatar> I think it would be you
20:48:11 <Avatar> you would be all hey, cool
20:48:26 <Avatar> my frog would be my character and the character would be the companion
20:48:36 <Avatar> oh he can cast druid spells? so what
20:48:59 <Avatar> my frog's companion casts CLW on it
20:49:32 <Steven1> yeah, see that aint me.
20:49:41 <Steven1> I like my halfling
20:56:23 <Steven1> my awesome AC Dog named Patches.
21:00:14 <steven> hey
21:04:45 <Steven1> +3 to hit for 1d4+1 damage.
21:05:52 <Avatar> +3 to bite for 1d4+1 blood
21:06:37 <Steven1> it really is a horrible AC lol
21:06:53 <Steven1> anyways... played Day of the Demon Tonight.
21:07:05 <Steven1> in Core
21:07:08 <Steven1> zero deaths.
21:07:46 <Steven1> one of the guys at the shop was going to play and i was going to GM
21:08:00 <Steven1> but he only had a level 3, and was going to have to play in the 6-7 tier.
21:08:07 <Steven1> and i told him, he would probably die.
21:08:35 <Steven1> so instead he GM'd and everyone lived.
21:09:41 <Steven1> i did hit the boss with a thunder stone. it failed fort save and then proceeded to roll a 17 and a 4 on percentiles, so failed to cast because she was deaf.
21:11:49 <Steven1> was good times.
21:13:51 <Goya> o/
21:17:35 <Avatar> impressive
21:17:42 <Avatar> the 20% chance never does a damn thing for me
21:17:50 <Avatar> which is a real problem because it's often my primary defense
21:17:57 <Steven1> i was super excited about it.
21:18:56 <Steven1> so i guess we're going to play bonekeep with these characters.
21:19:11 <Avatar> it's really a pain when you say to the GM "wait wait! roll 20% miss chance!" and then he rolls, and goes "ok I hit" over and over and over and over
21:19:39 <Avatar> I mean statisically he should have failed by accident at that stage
21:21:18 <Steven1> yeah
21:22:08 <Steven1> i dislike when a gm has a screen and has like 4-5 creatures w/ 3 attacks each and never misses due to concealment/total concealment.
21:22:36 <Steven1> and its like... okay you had 15 attacks 10 of which hit and none of them missed.
21:22:48 <Steven1> okay... okay. i can buy that.
21:22:51 <Steven1> next round same thing
21:23:00 <Steven1> and your like... hmm... that seems odd but okay.
21:23:12 <Steven1> and then third round same thing... I'm callin bullshit.
21:24:53 <Steven1> I've had a gm that over the course of a session never missed... not one time. He always hit. even my AC of 28 in tier 8-9.
21:25:01 <Steven1> I was the tank.
21:25:32 <Steven1> aparantly AC only worked when you could see the dicerolls.
21:26:34 <Steven1> that type of thing i why i roll out in the open at conventions and gamedays and if i need to fudge a number to keep someone alive i just change numbers on the statblock.
21:27:10 <Steven1> and if somebody calls out how the math is different, i just tell em not to worry bout it unless they want to use a 5k diamond.
21:31:22 <Steven1> think i've figured out what i'm going to build for my level 6 character.
21:31:34 <Steven1> gonna build my arcane archer from kingmaker.
21:37:51 <steven> how goes it man.
21:37:59 <steven> i passed that info along to the localish vL
22:07:46 <Steven1> or.... i could build a pain taster.
22:08:30 <Steven1> since im sure my wizard would punish him severely for fuck ups.
22:36:55 <Steven1> damn whip proficiency is tough to get without burning a feat
23:47:54 <Mekkis> or a level dip
23:49:21 <Mekkis> I like the deafen + silence combo :P