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01:34:26 <Avatar> this stupid map is 48 inches by 60 inches
01:34:39 <Avatar> A0 is 33.1 x 46.8
01:42:31 <Avatar> it's just dawned on me it's going to be cheaper to draw the whole thing and have a scaled A4 page for the players as a reference
02:22:18 <Avatar> posterazor is better than foxit for splitting into pages
03:05:58 <Steven1> fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... im so tired of this migraine.
03:06:10 <Steven1> 4 days now.
03:11:27 <Avatar> make it stop pls
03:11:53 <Brunius> abra kadabra, alakazam
03:13:43 <Steven1> whoa... no more pain.
03:13:46 <Steven1> brunius you the man
03:13:58 * Brunius takes a bow
03:14:19 <Steven1> i even GM'd tonight
03:14:34 <Avatar> that's why you're having migraines
03:14:36 <Avatar> constant GMing
03:15:12 <Steven1> well if people would step the fuck up and do their fair share of gming
03:16:10 <Steven1> i've Gm'd 4/9 slots this month.
03:17:16 <Steven1> i have one person who just flat refuses to gm... ever.
03:17:34 <Steven1> been coming down to play for like 2 years now.
03:17:55 <Mekkis> just don't schedule stuff he can play :P
03:18:07 <Steven1> i just put random things on the schedule.
03:18:45 <Steven1> unless someone specifically asks for something.
03:21:58 <Steven1> they are also a pain in the ass as a person because if someone says something they dont like they come get me to tell the person to stop...
03:23:14 <Steven1> because obviouly since i'm the VL that means im the babysitter.
03:23:29 <Brunius> well duh
03:24:18 <Mekkis> what are his reasons for not GMing?
03:24:20 <Steven1> i'd have to say thats the worst part about being a VO.
03:26:00 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I didn't think I was going to GM ever at one point
03:26:27 <Steven1> people expect me to fight their battle for them... if you're 10years old and all the 20+ yo people are talking over you and telling you what to do. I will step in, cause you're a kid. If you're 25... open your god damned mouth and defend yourself.
03:26:52 <Avatar> I am beginning to second guess the flame spirit for the shaman already
03:27:49 <Avatar> Mekkis: yeah I wasn't impressed with erasing liberating command from my list
03:28:04 <Avatar> I felt physical pain
03:28:37 <Steven1> seriously guys... this persons mother came in to sit in on a game after the person came and pulled me out of GMing a game because they felt the GM was targeting their character.
03:29:26 <Steven1> and i came out and was like, whats the situation, heres a solution. bye.
03:29:27 <Avatar> you should have then started targetting him
03:29:50 <Steven1> and then next week... momma bird came in to play with this 25yo.
03:30:02 <Steven1> to make sure her baby wasnt being picked on.
03:30:10 <Avatar> maybe she started to like pathfinder society ?
03:30:45 <Steven1> no... after the game day the mother and the person requested a meeting with me to discuss the incident.
03:31:20 <Avatar> did the meeting happen before or after she played
03:31:46 <Steven1> the mother didnt play... she sat at the table
03:32:21 <Avatar> did you get a chance to target him before the meeting
03:32:30 <Avatar> so you could admit that yes I was targetting him
03:32:50 <Steven1> nah i didnt GM, i was busy gming a different table.
03:32:52 <Avatar> how embarassing, being 25 and having your mother come in to fix it
03:33:09 <Steven1> would have been for me.
03:33:22 <Steven1> but then, my mom plays pfs now.
03:33:25 <Brunius> Sure he's not autistic or something?
03:33:38 <Brunius> That's pretty much the only situation in which I'd see that as okay
03:33:49 <Avatar> most of the spells on the shaman list are taken from the core rulebook I think, so all those communal druid spells had vanish cast on them
03:33:51 <Steven1> she has a dwarven bard who hits people with an improvised weapon rolling pin.
03:33:52 <Steven1> lol
03:34:07 <Steven1> nope, not autistic... just a royal pain in the ass.
03:35:29 <Steven1> They build VERY optimized characters and then complain to me whenever they get their feelings hurt.
03:35:56 <Steven1> like when the BBEG calls their female character a wench.
03:37:53 <Steven1> cause obviously thats a label put on the player right... the gm is totally calling the player a wench... well better go get the VL to straighten this GM out and by god if he doesnt tell this GM off next time im bringing my mother in and we will have a conversation about how name calling isnt appreciated!
03:38:41 <Steven1> i seriously need a stiff drink.
03:38:46 <Steven1> i'm fuckin annoyed.
03:39:11 <Steven1> brb, gonna get some scotch
03:41:11 <Steven1> well... i dont know if its going to be good for my head
03:41:17 <Steven1> but fuck its tasty
03:42:33 <Steven1> anyways... yeah.
03:42:48 <Steven1> had to GM tonight, didnt really want to.
03:43:03 <Steven1> missed out on what sounded like an epic game of Overflow Archives Core.
03:48:24 <Steven1> ran Icebound Outpost.
03:49:14 <Steven1> i dont understand why the neutral aligned baddies are the only ones who fight to the death.
03:49:22 <Steven1> because frankly they have the least motivation to do so.
03:56:20 <Mekkis> because the scenario writers are lazy?
04:04:17 <Mekkis> is it acceptable to ignore tactics when running an AP in PFS?
04:07:32 <Avatar> I think you can do it in campaign mode?
04:07:48 <Avatar> my understanding is all bets are off in campaign mode
04:07:58 <Avatar> either way you should ask/tell your players
04:16:49 <Steven1> its run as written whenever pfs is invovled unless campaign mode or player actions invalidate tactics/moral
04:27:15 <Mekkis> Do you want me to play this 20 int dragon intelligently
04:29:20 <Avatar> that's a very polite way to say can I ignore the tactics against this dragon to kill you as efficiently as possible
04:32:23 <Steven1> suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuup
04:41:50 <Mekkis> It's more "Should I make this dragon NOT die in one round against you guys"
04:42:10 <Avatar> is it worth paying conquest in advance
04:42:17 <Avatar> http://www.conquest.asn.au/visitor-guide/entry-fees/
04:42:25 <Avatar> tonight is the point of no return apparently
04:44:04 <Avatar> sup
04:44:12 <Avatar> is flame spirit a bad choice
04:51:41 <Brunius> it's one a dollar
04:51:45 <Brunius> only even
04:58:45 <Steven1> i wouldnt classify it as a good choice for pfs
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05:00:09 <Steven1> need to find a feat or two for my wizard.
05:00:11 <Steven1> level 17
05:00:22 <Avatar> I think I will go back to heavens
05:00:31 <Avatar> makes more sense for an aasimar anyway
05:00:40 <Avatar> since there is no other good reason for that character to be an aasimar
05:00:44 <Avatar> I never know how to roleplay one
05:01:37 <Steven1> life shaman?
05:01:47 <Steven1> i just play my aasimars like humans.
05:02:37 <Steven1> honey is all gung ho bout sarenrae and probably doesnt really think of herself as an aasimar
05:02:54 <Avatar> nah not life anything
05:03:02 <Avatar> my cleric was the last healer I'll play
05:03:06 <Avatar> destroyed him
05:03:37 <Steven1> more like a human who has taken the right steps towards becoming one of sarenrae's favored
05:08:43 <Avatar> all of the above
05:09:54 <Mekkis> I'd like to hope motive comes into it
05:11:25 <Mekkis> plus, we are talking 13th level
05:13:20 <Avatar> preferred playstyle is more important than character level
05:26:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, how goes the regexes?
05:27:00 <Mekkis> you'd rather cakeWalk the encounter in one round?\
05:48:30 <Avatar> Landruff hasn't taken any steps towards becoming one of sarenrae's favoured
05:48:44 <Avatar> he's more like my sczarni paladin, except less organised and more streetsmart
05:57:08 <steven> i dont really wanna pick another metamagic feat.
05:57:15 <Avatar> don't do it !!!!!!!!
05:58:10 <steven> i already have bouncing, persitant, reach, quicken and still
05:58:53 <Avatar> why
05:59:14 <steven> staff of the master necromancy
06:00:18 <steven> also have spell perfection on my suffocation.
06:00:32 <steven> so its always a persistant suffocation now.
06:02:15 <Avatar> that's sick
06:03:28 <steven> dc 32
06:03:35 <steven> if i spend a free action dc 34
06:03:41 <steven> 4/day
06:04:17 <Avatar> ultimate powahhhh
06:05:48 <steven> maybe i should pick up heighten
06:06:31 <steven> i dont really need reach
06:08:09 <steven> could use an 8th level spell slot, get a dc 37...
06:12:49 <Avatar> if you're not overly interested in combat, then yes
06:30:16 <Avatar> shit I signed up my shaman to play tomorrow and here I am stuck with his build
06:30:30 <ulzef> hey can anyone think of wierd shortened names for males like ted for theodor and bill for william need a name for my character
06:30:39 <Brunius> haven't messed with it yet
06:30:52 <Avatar> might switch him, he'd be playing down anyway
06:33:18 <Avatar> tony for anthony
06:33:37 <Avatar> ben for benjamin
06:33:39 <Avatar> ken for kenneth
06:34:15 <Avatar> saved by the alchemist I keep forgetting I have
06:34:49 <Avatar> jerry for jerome
06:42:46 <Avatar> hey brunius I need a dollar can you send it over pls
06:42:58 <Avatar> I won't pay it back but that's ok cuz it's only a dollar
06:43:24 <Brunius> Nah i don't have internet banking, sorry
06:45:21 <Mekkis> You know, the 'GM vs player' mentality goes both ways...
06:49:39 <Brunius> yeah
06:50:18 <Brunius> I have no idea how you would do that via a program
06:50:27 <Brunius> Probably easiest to do it via calling the GIMP actually
06:50:50 <Avatar> well look maybe but it seems like you need 4 different programs and you need to know how to use all of them to do one speciifc thing in each of them
06:51:13 <Avatar> even some sort of shortcut tool that just does it for you would work
06:51:25 <Brunius> So you want a grid overlay, image extraction, colour sharpening, and then print that?
06:51:33 <Avatar> I'm trying to write up a document, but even that reads fairly complicated
06:51:59 <Avatar> before printing you have to be able to slice it up in however many pages you want, or place it wherever you want on those pages
06:52:09 <Avatar> posterazor or foxit/acrobat do that
06:52:12 <ulzef> hmmm
06:52:28 <Avatar> foxit does it better than acrobat, I'm not sure where posterazor sits because I can't work it out
06:52:49 <Avatar> I think foxit alone should be able to do it
06:53:01 <Avatar> think I finally finished up my rebuild on my shaman
06:53:13 <Avatar> but I'm not sure it can save a map like that so that you can take it somewhere which can bring onto A1 or A2 paper
06:53:24 <Mekkis> you have a shaman?
06:53:33 <Avatar> posterazor definitely doesn't have a default setting for a "poster" that big, strangely
06:53:37 <Avatar> you have to put in custom sizes
06:53:44 <Mekkis> really, Brunius?
06:53:45 <Mekkis> wow
06:54:16 <Avatar> inkscape does a grid overlay, a PDF reader or some PDF image extract will do the extraction, GIMP does colour sharpening
06:54:43 <Avatar> inkscape seems very difficult to use unless you know what you're looking for, in which case, it's very easy
06:54:44 <Avatar> yeah I rebuilt my druid
06:55:39 <ulzef> might go qwith archi/archibald
06:57:02 <Brunius> I'm pretty sure there's open-source PDF image extraction out there
06:57:18 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
06:57:32 <Brunius> Mekkis, how does diebot parse input?
06:57:45 <Avatar> probably still has a few loose screws to fix
06:58:09 <Avatar> putting a point into cha was probably a mistake
06:58:33 <Avatar> you could probably skip that part, it's pretty easy to right-click and save as
06:59:30 <Avatar> the whole point is to make it as easy as possible
07:01:34 <Avatar> that cut-paste job added a lot of extra shitty spaces into the spell list
07:01:53 <Avatar> are there any items for seeing through fog
07:02:08 <Avatar> check this out, someone's signup sheet to play a PFS module: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1P0EtF2uW8-qJpxE1uy4RgsQHH3DkOu4uc0zHz1g2mXE/viewform?c=0&w=1
07:02:17 <Avatar> goz mask
07:06:58 <Avatar> yeah you should work on that
07:10:13 <Avatar> dunno about that combo
07:10:32 <Avatar> my new character is Pedro, from peter
07:15:47 <Avatar> don't think I'm going to be able to prepay conquest because I have no idea how sessions are billed
07:16:11 <Avatar> I thought a PFS session is 2 conquest sessions, but that doesn't seem to add up because they say get wrecked covers 13 sessions, and there's 14
07:25:33 <steven> I've just been letting people do whatever the hell they want.
07:25:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, the reason for that was that the shaman only got its spell list late in development.
07:25:59 <steven> when it comes to games lately.
07:26:04 <Mekkis> Until after the playtest, it was a spontaneous caster that used the druid list
07:29:05 <steven> i dont know if i'd want all that information as a gm.
07:29:34 <steven> like the vision...
07:30:29 <Mekkis> I'm not signing up for Monday until I know what's going on then
07:31:31 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's written in ruby: a lot of regexes. Want to discuss it?
07:31:49 <Brunius> I've been wondering whether to try to figure out regexes
07:32:42 <Mekkis> YES!
07:34:01 <Mekkis> what school should my wizard be, given that he's planning on being very blasty?
07:34:10 <Mekkis> but not with C/C++
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07:42:10 <Mekkis> Damn.
07:42:20 <Mekkis> I think I've chosen the same stat line I did with deceased
07:42:25 <Mekkis> Exactly the same one
07:42:38 <Mekkis> 10/14/12/20/8/8
07:44:03 <Mekkis> So: Fireball et al (Evocation, reflex); Glitterdust et al (Conjuration, will); Blindness/deafness (Necromancy, fort)
07:44:44 <Mekkis> let's throw the ball back. I'll be having an early lunch in the city, Russell St.
07:45:03 <Mekkis> I expect to be ambushed by a wild Brunius
07:46:20 <Mekkis> I suppose Enchantment and Transmutation get the flick.
07:46:23 <Mekkis> Or Divination
07:46:57 <Mekkis> !hp 2d6m2+3
07:46:58 <diebot> Mekkis, 17
07:49:02 <Mekkis> Bloody timezones. Reading some articles, realising that they're a bit strange...
07:49:19 <Mekkis> Read publication date.
07:53:50 <Mekkis> !feat forge ring
07:53:55 <diebot> Mekkis, FORGE RING [Item Creation]Prereq: Caster level 7th. You can create magic rings.
07:53:55 <diebot> Benefit: You can create magic rings. Crafting a ring takes 1 day for each 1,000 gp in its base price. To craft a ring, you must use up raw materials costing half of the base price. See the magic item creation rules in Magic Items for more information. You can also mend a broken ring if it is one that you could make. Doing so costs half the raw
07:53:55 <diebot> materials and half the time it would take to forge that ring in the first place. Source: Core
08:05:25 <Mekkis> you use gimp for colour sharpening?
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08:27:51 <Mekkis> planning on starting it at 11-1130
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08:35:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, challenge accepted
08:44:43 <Avatar> can you get a train to caulfield station when you're done
08:44:52 <Avatar> south yarra would be the next best, but there's no good spot to pull over around there
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09:26:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, only thing I use gimp for is airbrushing over secret doors
09:49:47 <Mekkis> Okay, I'll see what I can do. What line is Caulfield on>
09:49:48 <Mekkis> ?
13:33:15 <steven> 4 hours and i get to play skull and shackles....
13:33:43 <steven> this day is dragging by like christmas eve did when i was a child
14:52:27 <Steven1> day 5 migraine... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
15:55:16 <Steven1> blaaaaah
16:14:32 <Avatar> I don't care about that
16:14:36 <Avatar> I want my communal spells
16:17:20 <Steven1> i want pie
16:17:31 <Avatar> you're always so easy to please
16:17:41 <Avatar> I too am easy to please in this instance
16:17:52 <Avatar> open the damn APG and go through that spell list and pick out the obvious good ones !
16:17:59 <Avatar> and UC and UM
16:18:01 <Avatar> the big 4
16:18:13 <Avatar> don't skip out on liberating command !
16:18:39 <Avatar> steven do you think I am making a mistake with the flame spirit
16:19:24 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=359
16:19:42 <Avatar> the only hex I ended up taking was gaze of flames
16:20:08 <Avatar> which I now think I might be unlikely to ever use
16:20:19 * Steven1 shrugs
16:20:28 <Avatar> apart from that it really only offers fire breath and fire resistance
16:20:35 <Avatar> (and fireball)
16:20:44 <Steven1> flame is the most commonly immune damage type
16:20:55 <Avatar> I might switch back to heavens
16:26:56 <Mekkis> avatar, you around?
16:27:02 <Avatar> ya
16:27:12 <Mekkis> just landed.
16:27:16 <Avatar> gg
16:27:46 <Mekkis> when should we meet?
16:30:05 <Avatar> I think we said 1 but that will probably be cutting it close
16:30:08 <Avatar> let's say 12.30
16:30:23 <Avatar> with leniency
16:30:33 <Avatar> I know how you always like to be fashionably late
16:34:32 <Mekkis> okay, sounds good. Where?
16:34:55 <Avatar> I'll pick you up from wherever
16:34:58 <Avatar> you tell me where
16:45:57 <Mekkis> let's throw the ball back. I'll be having an early lunch in the city, Russell St.
16:46:13 <Mekkis> I expect to be ambushed by a wild Brunius
16:50:12 <Mekkis> Bloody timezones. Reading some articles, realising that they're a bit strange...
16:50:29 <Mekkis> Read publication date.
17:01:53 <Avatar> Mekkis: if you try the levels trick, I doubt you'll go back to not using it
17:11:50 <Mekkis> Avatar, you used the 'class has changed' rebuild rules?
17:12:57 <Avatar> yeah
17:13:16 <Avatar> did it with Cairo
17:13:26 <Mekkis> can shamen cast Summon Nature's Ally
17:13:27 <Mekkis> ?
17:13:34 <Avatar> it's funny because paizo seems to prefer to pretend it doesn't exist
17:13:38 <Avatar> no
17:13:45 <Avatar> shaman's spell list is surprisingly limited compared to the druid
17:13:48 <Avatar> I had to take a lot of spells off the list
17:14:01 <Avatar> why
17:14:01 <Mekkis> why do you have the stats for a summon in the middle of your sheet
17:14:11 <Avatar> that was from the druid build
17:14:19 <Avatar> what was the change
17:16:26 <Mekkis> what? The "spontaneous spells" bit applies to druid as much as it applies to cleric...
17:17:10 <Avatar> too much neglecting sleep for pathfinder
17:17:13 <Avatar> I understand
17:18:55 <Avatar> what?
17:19:22 <Avatar> the city is a bit dumb to drive into if you can get out of there
17:19:36 <Avatar> how early is your lunch
17:21:42 <Avatar> blaaaaah
17:22:37 <Avatar> shit
17:22:40 <Avatar> I will have to re-read that
17:22:54 <Avatar> the rebuild was going to bring me down to 1/40 prestige
17:28:29 <Mekkis> yeah, shaman lose a lot of the better spells: liberating command, for instance
17:29:03 <Mekkis> planning on starting it at 11-1130
17:43:55 <Steven1> i slept from 2am to 6am and i took a nap at 11-noon... that should have been plenty of sleep
17:44:26 <Steven1> well... noonish.
17:45:40 <Avatar> can you get a train to caulfield station when you're done
17:46:03 <Avatar> south yarra would be the next best, but there's no good spot to pull over around there
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19:00:29 <Mekkis> !rng 1a 3
19:00:43 <Avatar> y/n?
19:01:01 <Avatar> if that's a problem I'll just pick you up in the city, but it'll have to be earlier again
19:02:34 <Mekkis> I can do that. what line is caulfield on?
19:04:01 <Mekkis> oh, and Brunius, Avatar: they're selling devices that can only be described as 'Wayfinders' at vic markets...
19:07:58 <Mekkis> interested?
19:16:36 <s_gmusic> http://imgur.com/a/t5qsp
19:16:37 <s_gmusic> http://imgur.com/a/pH6m1
19:30:07 <Avatar> get a photo?
19:30:29 <Avatar> I assume it casts light
19:31:49 <Mekkis> nope. At least, Not Yet...
19:32:00 <Avatar> does it detect magic
19:32:44 <Mekkis> yes
19:34:52 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/20150402_001.jpg
19:35:04 <Mekkis> obligatory blurry photo
19:35:32 <Avatar> neg for me
19:36:31 <Mekkis> should I get one for Darkwhite?
19:36:59 <Avatar> dunno
19:37:18 <Avatar> it doesn't really look like a wayfinder to me
19:37:40 <Mekkis> I'll see what he thinks: I have Sunday morning free
19:37:40 <Avatar> looks like a compass in a box
19:55:13 <Mekkis> isn't that what a wayfinder is?
20:50:36 <thebigtarget1> hello?
20:52:47 <Mekkis> hello
20:53:15 <thebigtarget1> Just checking out some different avenues to play rpgs online
20:53:38 <Avatar> www.pathfindersocietyonline.com
20:54:20 <Avatar> mekkis: go to the toilet before we leave if you can
20:54:43 <Avatar> there's only one there and it's a long walk from the trees
20:54:53 <Mekkis> Avatar: lunch over, headed to Caulfield
20:55:03 <Avatar> no rush
20:56:52 <Mekkis> okay. Can I get there from Parliament, or should I consider taking a tram the whole way?
21:06:48 <Avatar> not sure
21:22:59 <Avatar> leaving in a couple of minutes
21:34:53 <Mekkis> at the station now.
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22:18:57 <Goya> Steven : http://centralcitycomiccon.com/
22:19:00 <Avatar> a personal alchemist spell with infusion is still alchemist-only isn't it
22:19:07 <Avatar> can't pass that to other people
22:19:57 <Goya> Nothing much there yet - and it's going to be small... But..
22:22:55 <Goya> If you know anyone at Paizo or in Tri-Cities - or if you wanted to make the trek.... I'm sure they would appreciate an RPG presence.
23:02:44 <Mekkis> Brunius: in every place I've worked, regexes have been useful
23:15:48 <Steven1> ill pass it along to the VL down in that area
23:25:03 <Brunius|L> You know what I love?
23:25:11 <Brunius|L> Consulting third party documentation
23:25:25 <Brunius|L> nothing says "Well put together programming language" like having NO FUCKING DOCUMENATION