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36:34 <Mort-> Quadpeds ftw!
37:02 <Avatar> yeah pretty sure he's already on a heavy load
37:37 <Mekkis> on or over?
38:19 <Mort-> Mort would be screwed except for handy haversacks
38:31 <Mort-> And muleback cords.
38:45 <Mort-> Grull probably won't be much of a packrat
39:19 <Mort-> Why did kapow dump strength i wonder
39:40 <Mort-> Sigh. Mort lacks gaming buddies
39:48 <Mort-> She's a little big
39:58 <Mort-> Fluffy level 7 wizard
41:31 <Mekkis> I should run CoED for her
41:41 <Mort-> What coed?
41:54 <Mort-> She's about to go for from shore to sea
42:09 <Mort-> I think i can get a dazing rod soon
42:13 <Mekkis> Cult of Ebon Destroyers
42:18 <Mort-> Ah
42:35 <Mort-> Looking for a dazing rod
42:40 <Mort-> Soonish
29:51 <Mekkis> I keep forgetting to turn off my laptop as it passes through airport security
29:57 <Brunius> ha
34:09 <Mekkis> Brunius, have you read anything by Charles Stross?
34:14 <Brunius> Don't think so
34:31 <N2H4> I have!
34:39 <Mekkis> good stuff, rigth
34:43 <Mekkis> what titles?
34:49 <N2H4> Um. A bunch.
35:21 <N2H4> More than half his total, probably.
36:06 <Mekkis> any references you didn't get?
36:25 <Mekkis> faded Scary Devil Monastery T-Shirt?
39:40 <Mekkis> http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/~susan/joke/cpp.htm
41:16 <Mekkis> should I drop power attack or precise shot?
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48:09 <BoomerET> I knew I'd heard that name, I started reading the Atrocity Archives recently
55:24 <Mort-> Hi boomer!
55:46 * Mort- rolls on her back and begs boomer for a cookie
55:57 <N2H4> Um. Accelerando, Glasshouse, Singularity Sky, Iron Sunrise, Atrocity Archives, Jennifer Morgue, Halting State, Saturn's Children, Toast, and Wireless.
55:58 * Mort- gives hydra a pleading look as well
59:00 * Brunius throws Mort- a cupcake
04:47 <Mekkis> BoomerET, what? Scary Devil Monastery?
05:11 * Mekkis throws some Camembert at Mort- 
06:31 <Mekkis> Brunius, did your mail arrive?
09:43 * Mort- eats both and purq
15:10 <Steven> yo
42:35 <Mort-> Urk?
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45:18 <OsterGuard> MOOORT
45:24 <OsterGuard> I'm in SINGAPORE
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41:12 <Mort-> Oh no
41:20 <Mort-> He didn't tell me where
45:13 <Ballig> he's outside your house
49:59 <Mort-> Can't be
50:05 <Ballig> he is though
50:10 <Mort-> Off to serpents skull in 10 min time!
50:20 * Mort- is a cheerful mur!
50:21 <MekkisScreen> yo
51:28 <MekkisScreen> mort
51:41 <MekkisScreen> precise shot or power attack
02:18 <MekkisScreen> oh considering running dalsine affair on 5th or 6th
02:28 <Mort-> Pa
03:38 <Mort-> What character
03:47 <Mort-> Archer type?
04:00 <MekkisScreen> ja
04:48 <MekkisScreen> mainly
05:05 <Mort-> Then precise shot
05:28 <Mort-> I will bring xyn for dalsine affair
05:45 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
05:46 <Mort-> Probably will ask for t1-2
06:02 <MekkisScreen> mort's been metagaming
06:03 <Mort-> Seriously.
06:11 * Mort- hides
06:32 * Mort- squeaks a little
07:26 <Mort-> Xyn won't hit 4 by 5th or 6th
07:43 <Mort-> She is one scenario from 1
07:44 <Mort-> 4
08:55 <Brunius> Mort-, why are there always asian tourists checking out puffing billy?
09:04 <Mort-> She's furry though. But undead with 20 ac do her no favours
09:15 <Brunius> (It's a steam train)
09:17 <Mort-> What do you mean by that?
09:40 <Brunius> Every time I go through Belgrave I see at least one bus drop off like 20 asian tourists to look at puffing billy
09:43 <Brunius> Why
09:48 <Mort-> Maybe because we don't have those in asia?
09:57 <Mort-> Too high tech?
10:52 <Mort-> Either that or the tour earns comission for bringing people to the coughing billy
10:56 <Mort-> But seriously mek.
11:14 <Mort-> For a 4-5 who in channel has a character that range
12:22 <Mort-> Eh
12:34 <Mort-> Wait its 3-4 for subtier right?
12:45 * Mort- ponders
13:02 <Mort-> Could be interesting if we have enough 3s around
15:05 <N2H4> power attack on an archer?
15:09 <N2H4> really? ..why?
16:22 <Mort-> I thought he was playing a switch hitter ranger ><
16:35 <Mort-> Aka aragon
19:03 <Mort-> Wow glitterdust has no sr.
19:47 <Mort-> Been using it for so long but never knew haha
20:32 <N2H4> it doesn't do damage, right?
21:29 <Mort-> It doesnt . It just makes monsters sparkle like vampires in sunlight
21:41 <Mort-> Like twilight movie :d
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17:00 <Mekkis> because it's conjuration
17:11 <Mekkis> and it doesn't directly interfere with a creature magically
17:29 <Mekkis> it creates something "real" that does the interference
18:18 <Mekkis> Brunius, did you receive my letter?
20:59 <Brunius> I did in fact receive your letter
21:08 <Mekkis> great
21:11 <Mekkis> I received yours
21:11 <Brunius> While I'm not complaining, why did you send me extra cards?
21:18 <Mekkis> to make the envelope stiffer
21:21 <Brunius> Did it get there OK?
21:26 <Mekkis> yeah
21:47 <N2H4> Mekkis, why power attack for an archer?
21:59 <Mekkis> in case I want to scythe someone
22:17 <N2H4> Ah. Fair enough.
29:40 <Mekkis> but it's a tough decision
29:48 <Mekkis> not being a fighter-based archer
30:10 <Mekkis> (the GM's just recently allowed the Leadership feat, and I want to get in on the action!)
31:44 <N2H4> My thoughts on this are basing selection on usefulness, lifesaving qualities, and how often you expect to end up using it.
32:11 <N2H4> If you really mean to be an archer, precise shot wins.
32:47 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=1
34:13 <Mekkis> there's the second question of do I go holy, or double-bane, or keen bane
38:01 <N2H4> your scythe rolls confuse me.
38:40 <Mekkis> yes
38:50 <Mekkis> should be +10 right
39:00 <N2H4> Is it counting power attack or no?
39:06 <Mekkis> it is
39:08 <N2H4> Either way something doesn't look right.
39:36 <N2H4> 6(1.5str)+6PA+1 magic = 13.
39:44 <Mekkis> I forgot the +1
40:00 <N2H4> at +10 attack
40:05 <Mekkis> yeah
40:37 <N2H4> This is why I was confused. Neither of them was right and it just didn't make sense.
40:47 <N2H4> I like the heaps spell fail.
41:10 <Mekkis> do you hang out on the Scary Devil Monastery?
41:38 <N2H4> I hang out in Imriel.
41:47 <Mekkis> where's that?
42:09 <N2H4> Its my vacation home away from Lookshy.
42:24 <N2H4> Your 'bard varient' looks an aweful lot like a paladin
42:25 <Mekkis> what's that?
42:43 <Mekkis> yes, but you're seeing my sheet. The other PCs won't be
43:05 <N2H4> I was going to ask where you picked up heavy armor prof.
43:37 <N2H4> If they won't be seeing it, then why do you need to write misleading information?
43:55 <Mekkis> because they'll probably glance at it from time to time
45:07 <N2H4> Screw power attack. Take IUS and dragon style.
45:24 <Mekkis> that's two feats
45:31 <Mekkis> I'm feat starved as it is
45:43 <Mekkis> I'm dropping either power attack or precise shot for leadership
45:51 <N2H4> Drop power attack.
46:10 <N2H4> All archers end up firing into melee. Its just how it is.
46:32 <N2H4> You don't have rolls crunched up for deadly aim?
46:41 <Mekkis> not if they drop the bow and charge in
46:44 <Mekkis> not on that online sheet
46:56 <N2H4> Why is the attack rol with the bow +12?
48:10 <N2H4> Also I think the cost for your bow is wrong.
51:01 <Mekkis> Bracers of Archery
51:07 <tashphones2> I think your face is wrong
51:17 <N2H4> I thought you liked my face.
51:30 <tashphones2> Lies
51:40 <tashphones2> You're not Chris hemsworth 
55:25 <N2H4> ..
55:42 <Mekkis> does that make it add up?
56:51 <Mekkis> but Brunius: feel free to keep those cards, but remember the deal
57:22 <N2H4> I think it'll be a few years before hes got a firstborn child for you to collect.
57:40 <Mekkis> what would I do with a firstborn child?
58:03 <N2H4> You know, nobody ever asked that Rumplestiltskin guy either.
15:15 <OsterGuard> hallooooo
17:32 <Mekkis> Zzzzzzzzz
30:22 <Avatar> OsterGuard: where in singapore
30:42 <OsterGuard> Singapore, Singapore :P
31:04 <OsterGuard> near Clarke key
49:48 <N2H4> I been there!
50:03 <N2H4> Get some food, man.
51:03 <OsterGuard> Got some
51:10 <OsterGuard> Is good
51:16 <N2H4> Fo sho.
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53:49 <OsterGuard> I gotta go :(
53:53 <OsterGuard> Sleep and all that
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27:34 <Mort-> Oh dear
27:41 <Mort-> :d
27:57 <Mort-> Had a nice party last night
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56:41 <Mort-> Morning
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41:22 <MekkisScreen> morning
52:54 <Mort-> I had fun last night mek!
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13:51 <Mort-> Hi hydra :p
17:38 * Mort- pokes a n2h4
27:19 <N2H4> yo
35:02 <Mort-> I had fun last night!
35:08 <N2H4> yeah?
35:18 <Mort-> Think movie 300
35:35 <Mort-> We had to wade through a huge mess
35:42 <Mort-> 4 of us
15:25 <N2H4> so what happened?
29:06 <Mort-> Uh. We all got out alive
29:16 <Mort-> Though they got to carry me out ^^
29:33 <Mort-> Final part was funny
30:02 <Mort-> Group mage was very pissed with the witches familiar that alerted the entire village
30:30 <Mort-> Parting shot once we were out of range of their javelins
30:38 <Mort-> Rolled nat 20
30:43 <Mort-> Confirmation was 19
30:53 <Mort-> The raw without the mods
31:42 <Mort-> So he crit the raven familiar with a x3 longbow lol
31:50 <Mort-> Splat. Nice one
34:14 <Mort-> Then we ran like the 9 hells were after us
43:44 <Mort-> Anyway i didn't get to see it since i was taking a dirtnap with a few javelins sticking out of me - their final volley
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37:42 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
37:42 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jul 23 04:43:35 2012
37:42 <***> Buffer Playback...
37:43 <***> Playback Complete.
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09:02 <MekkisScreen> omg
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11:07 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
11:07 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 23 00:38 449 Dhargoh
11:08 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 23 00:38 445 Aresh
11:08 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 23 00:38 438 Zebado
11:08 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 02:54 464 snow
11:08 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 02:53 333 Bairaq
11:20 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Aresh
11:21 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Aresh, number: 445( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=445 )
11:31 <MekkisScreen> happy now ballig?
13:33 <Mort-> What? Mek?
14:33 <MekkisScreen> It's now using pfrpg.com.au rather than dnd.ballig.net
14:59 <MekkisScreen> what has been going on, mort?
16:55 <Mort-> I told you i pfed last night
16:59 <Mort-> Serpents skull
17:14 <Mort-> Till midnight
17:28 <Mort-> Btw i can't get boon companion for that game
17:49 <Mort-> Not allowed since gamestore doesn't have seeker of secrets :p
48:33 <Avatar> paizo.com doesn't have seeker of secrets?
51:11 <Mort-> Game shop doesn't have it haha
51:16 <Mort-> So no boon companion
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09:10 <MekkisScreen> !history snow
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10:27 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d20
10:27 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d20: [1d20=10] 10
10:40 <MekkisScreen> !history 333
10:40 <diebot> MekkisScreen, r4 | vpsirc | 2012-07-21 02:54:28 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
10:40 <diebot> MekkisScreen, r3 | ken | 2012-07-21 00:05:09 -0400 (Sat, 21 Jul 2012) | 1 line
11:36 <Avatar> what are you doing
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25:47 <Mekkis> !diff 333 r3
25:49 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/333r3.txt
26:30 <Mekkis> Brunius, what are the rules for changing deities?
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01:42 <Brunius> I was always Abadar
01:49 <Brunius> Bairaq was, I mean.
02:00 <Brunius> I'm not sure how the site version got changed to Iomedae
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03:32 <Brunius> I seem to have a lot of inconsistencies like that on my sheets
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22:12 <Brunius> Ha
22:28 <Brunius> GG: Melbourne is getting Darkest Vengeance this Sunday
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29:23 <Avatar> yeah matt goodall is GMing it
29:27 <Avatar> lolllllll
29:42 <Mekkis> fun fun fun
29:50 <Mekkis> I should fly down and play it!
29:54 <Avatar> fun fun fun fun fun
29:55 <Mort-> Lol
30:01 <Avatar> in other news, I got a job today
30:05 <Mort-> Can't be there!
30:13 <Mort-> Congrats avatar!
30:13 <Mekkis> congrats
30:16 <Mort-> As what?
30:17 <Avatar> thx
30:17 <Mekkis> is it a job you want?
30:19 <Avatar> I will miss bludging
30:25 * Mort- hugs avatar
30:26 <Avatar> as decent as any
30:34 <Mort-> What is it about
30:39 <Avatar> customer service
31:04 <Mekkis> what customers and what kind of service?
31:26 <Avatar> I don't really know a lot about it yet
31:34 * Mort- bites avatar to get cookies
31:35 <Avatar> probably telemarketing 
31:54 <Mort-> I'm a customer you're supposed to get me cookies!
32:28 <Avatar> no
32:35 <Avatar> get your own
36:10 <Mekkis> Mort-, at least let Avatar cash a paycheck before you start making demands
37:59 <Avatar> I don't do virtual cookies unless we're playing a game
38:20 <Mekkis> I think Mort wants you to send physical ones
38:46 <Mekkis> http://magiclampoon.com/blog/2012/07/25/photochop-pirate-spellbomb/
50:36 <Mort-> Lol virtual ones will do
50:44 <Mort-> Its the thought that counts
50:46 <Mort-> :p
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07:43 <Mort-> No mtg for me 
08:52 <Avatar> I can't get into mtg
09:03 <Avatar> pretty tricky to follow
14:01 <Avatar> When in a party, you should hold your fire until someone beefier than you hits the monster first. Once the monster is occupied with another party member, run up behind it and swing away. If the monster turns around and begins fighting you, block and use diplomacy to shed the monster's aggro. DO NOT RUN AWAY. The monster will chase you and your party members will chase the monster. If you've ever 
14:01 <Avatar> seen an episode of Benny Hill, you have an idea of where this situation is going.
19:27 <Mort-> That's mmorpg training
20:03 <Mort-> If you have to run you try to run circles around the monster
20:20 <Mort-> The tank sorry
27:36 <Mort-> Oh dear
27:43 <Mort-> :d
27:59 <Mort-> Had a nice party last night
28:29 <Avatar> http://androidaustralia.com.au/2012/07/phones/shopping-square-selling-the-32gb-galaxy-s-iii-for-559/
30:57 <knfbny> sounds like import stock
33:17 <Avatar> dodgy?
34:30 <knfbny> not really, ive imported phones before
34:43 <knfbny> my sgs2 was import and never had a problem with it
34:48 <knfbny> its only if it becomes a warranty issue
34:57 <knfbny> samsung wont touch imports
35:12 <knfbny> i had an import samsung years ago and boke the screen and they wouldnt repair it for me
35:44 <knfbny> so its whether or not you want to take the risk for a cheaper phone
37:46 <knfbny> my last 6 or 7 phones have been samsung, im a bit of a sammy fanboy
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45:31 <Mort-> Urk
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47:17 <Wrothmonk> Hello.
48:05 <Wrothmonk> Is anybody on that can answer a few questions I have about the game?
50:35 <Avatar> YEP
50:54 <Brunius> Yes
51:41 <Wrothmonk> Cool.
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52:52 <Wrothmonk> It says on the beginners guide that I'll need CA, is there any alternative for a mac user?
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53:24 <Avatar> that's a ballig question
53:27 <Brunius> You could try compiling from the source.
53:35 <Brunius> Not sure how effective that would be though
53:45 <Ballig> it's effective
54:05 <Ballig> it just became too much of an effort for me to maintain multiple compiles
54:48 <Wrothmonk> Ok I thought that may be possible. However I don't really know how to do that.
56:43 <Mort-> Morning
57:03 <Ballig> I can probably do a compile for you
57:08 <Ballig> what version OS do you use
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57:25 <Wrothmonk> 10.7.4
57:29 <Ballig> which one is that
57:39 <Brunius> one of the leopards
57:40 <Ballig> it's a cat, right
57:53 <Wrothmonk> I believe its snow leopard, let me check quick
59:31 <Wrothmonk> wait no, its lion
59:43 <Ballig> what's up with mac and cats anyway
59:47 <Wrothmonk> idk
59:52 <Ballig> why isn't it named after kinds of wolves
59:55 <Ballig> or a dingo
59:56 <Brunius> Hey, they've gotta name it after something
00:01 <Wrothmonk> sound cool I guess.
00:08 <Brunius> It could be ice cream sandwich
00:16 <Ballig> omnom
01:23 <Wrothmonk> oh yeah hers the chart I love.
01:27 <Wrothmonk> http://xkcd.com/1056/
02:09 <Ballig> yeah :p
05:06 <Avatar> apple secretly invented lolcats :(
05:22 <Wrothmonk> O_o
05:50 <Avatar> that's what I said
06:35 <Wrothmonk> and microsoft invented loldogs I bet.
12:07 <Mort-> Oh man time to head back get some sleep
12:39 <Mort-> I've been on short supply of it
14:01 * Mort- meows and looks foward to next pf session next week
14:55 <Mort-> Also would like to spam crap out of Google groups
15:17 <Mort-> And get my wizard ready for next game
15:47 <Mort-> Btw avatar - did you play shore to sea first group?
18:03 <Avatar> no
18:06 <Avatar> what is first group
19:09 <Mort-> You missed it again you nub?
20:02 <Mort-> Well balgins running it again on friday/sat
20:26 <Mort-> But suggest you should sign up now
20:42 <Mort-> If you have any characters from 5-7
21:03 <Mort-> Going to haul my wizzie arse over.
21:35 <Mort-> Remind me to keep socks out of water and buy myself a wand of grease
22:11 <Wrothmonk> wand of grease… that sounds kinda wrong...
22:24 <Wrothmonk> then again I'm the newbie here and I haven't read much of the rules yet :p
22:36 <Mort-> You do want grease
22:56 <Mort-> The title makes me think of grappling monsters
23:18 <Mort-> So I'm getting that wand
24:20 <Mort-> I think ill get maneuver master instead of mmos
24:43 <Mort-> That's for my inquisitor on the other side
25:50 <Mort-> I can't get enough ac to try to abuse mmos.. :(
27:27 <Mort-> And my roc isn't going to be anything more then a scout
27:58 * Mort- tail thumps up and down
28:34 <Wrothmonk> So Ballig, how long is the compiling going to take? Should I expect it to be a while or what.
29:00 <Ballig> I'm trying to figure out how to compile it using my current mac os virtual machine
29:15 <Wrothmonk> ah.
29:30 <Mort-> Be patient young padawan
29:42 <Wrothmonk> Yes master jedi.
29:42 <Mort-> I can't even code. 
29:52 <Ballig> I can't get the network connection to work on it, making it hard to install what I need :p
30:21 * Mort- noob.
30:21 <Mort-> Anyway I'm pretty far from being a jedi
30:28 <Mort-> I'm a feely sort of person
30:34 <Wrothmonk> lol
31:19 * Mort- has excitable trait. Skill focus (panic when its a weekend without pfs)
31:20 <Mort-> :p
31:25 <Wrothmonk> anyway I'm going to dive into the rules. Just say my name and my irc app will ping me. I wont be paying attention to the chat window.
31:32 <Mort-> Lol
31:57 <Mort-> Can i talk shop to you because i like it?
32:10 <Mort-> Btw wrothmonk - you rolled a character yet?
33:16 <Wrothmonk> no, just wanted to make sure I could actually play first. I'm going to be rolling one soon though if I don't have any questions regarding the rules.
34:07 <Brunius> Roll a Gnome Paladin
34:15 <Mort-> Lol
35:05 <Wrothmonk> Pathfinder has gnomes? AWSOME
35:05 <Mort-> Should get all my characters to punt you.
35:05 <Mort-> I think gnomes are evil lol
35:13 <Wrothmonk> I love gnomes...
35:38 <Wrothmonk> still they must be punted@
35:42 <Wrothmonk> !*
35:51 <Wrothmonk> for sport at the very least!
36:42 <Mort-> Yes!
36:48 * Mort- cheers!
37:21 <Wrothmonk> although gnome paladins tend to be a bit bulky and hard to punt. I prefer squishy rouges. 
37:34 <Wrothmonk> They may be hard to hit while moving, but its more fun that way.
37:37 <Mort-> The only good gnome is an abused one!
38:31 <Wrothmonk> lol. I may play a gnome in WoW but I am always tempted to drop kick a few on my tauren. 
38:32 <Mort-> One bad thing about short race rogues is the movement really sucks
38:51 <Wrothmonk> mm yeah short legs.
38:56 <Mort-> Heh. Keep that spirit in mind
39:08 <Ballig> finally got the network adapter to work
39:42 <Mort-> I have to carry our halfling rogue everytime we travel
39:43 <Mort-> He is so slow.
39:44 <Mort-> And he moves at 20 ft
39:44 <Mort-> So hard to set up flanks
39:45 <Brunius> http://imgur.com/a/NeJBM
39:57 * Mort- eyes dirty trick though
40:26 <Mort-> Soon - we wont need flanks
42:11 <Ballig> how do you know what version of mac os x you're using
42:52 <Wrothmonk> I check my version number in "about this mac"
43:04 <Ballig> is that a label on the computer
43:06 <Wrothmonk> I then check a chart that has the version/names on it.
43:39 <Wrothmonk> Theres a little apple symbol up in the top left corner, click it then about this mac.
44:23 <Ballig> looks like I need snow leopard and above to use this qt installer
44:23 <Ballig> how annoying
44:23 <Ballig> yeah this virtual machine is 10.5.2, needs 10.6 for the latest qt
44:34 <Wrothmonk> can you walk me through it on my computer?
44:54 <Ballig> on a scale of 1 to 10, how tech savvy are you
45:54 <Wrothmonk> mm depends on what your range is.
46:17 <Ballig> 1 is a 14 year old girl, and 10 is someone who works in IT
46:44 <Wrothmonk> 6 or 7 I think.
47:19 <Ballig> you don't have download limits do you?
48:00 <Wrothmonk> None besides the limit the websites put on themselves.
48:08 <Ballig> http://qt.nokia.com/downloads
48:09 <Ballig> go there
48:21 <Wrothmonk> already got it downloaded :D
48:22 <Ballig> assuming you have 64-bit OS X, get the SDK near the top
48:46 <Ballig> the 760mb installer? or the 12mb downloader?
49:28 <Wrothmonk> 12mb downloaded. I didn't notice the offline installer.
49:48 <Ballig> if you run it, just be aware it will download about 750mb worth of files to install
50:05 <Wrothmonk> I have about 500gb of drive space left.
50:20 <Ballig> is the rest filled with porn
50:42 <Wrothmonk> nah I keep that stored online. 
51:15 <Wrothmonk> more secure from snooping parents.
51:17 <Ballig> ha
51:29 <Ballig> let me know when the Qt SDK is installed
51:33 <Ballig> I'll tell you how to compile CA
51:43 <Wrothmonk> K
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52:55 <Wrothmonk> I've got around 900kb a second so it might take a few minutes. 
53:39 <Wrothmonk> woah ok its going up
53:52 <Wrothmonk> 2 mb per sec.
53:52 <Ballig> that's what she said
53:57 <Wrothmonk> ...
53:58 <Wrothmonk> nice
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01:23 <Wrothmonk> ok every things downloaded now its just installing. This could  take a while from the looks of it. I'm going to start generating a character.
02:31 <Wrothmonk> I'm thinking an elf wizard…
07:34 <Ballig> I have one of those
07:47 <Wrothmonk> gah error during install...
07:59 <Ballig> :O
08:36 <Wrothmonk> oh I see the problem
09:03 <Wrothmonk> for some reason it installed a folder as read only and tried to write to it next :p
09:22 <Wrothmonk> crap.
09:27 <Wrothmonk> can't change it.
11:28 <Wrothmonk> ok I'm going to download the offline installed so I can try again quicker.
13:11 <Wrothmonk> about 5 minutes at estimation.
20:40 <Wrothmonk> ok starting the installer
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26:59 <Wrothmonk> crap…. same error.
27:24 <Ballig> what's the error
27:54 <Wrothmonk> Error during installation process (com.nokia.ndk.tools.simulator.application):
27:55 <Wrothmonk> Execution failed(Crash): "/Users/(My user name)/QtSDK/Simulator/Application/simulator.app/Contents/MacOS/simulator -registeronly"
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28:33 <Ballig> is your username BigpenisDonald6969
28:51 <Wrothmonk> no its my name.
29:38 <Wrothmonk> which I prefer not to give out.
30:05 <Ballig> is your name Donald
30:14 <Wrothmonk> No.
31:01 <Ballig> is it Zach
31:04 <Ballig> I bet it's Zach
31:13 <Brunius> Andrew?
31:16 <Brunius> Ben?
31:19 <Brunius> Tony?
31:19 <Ballig> pretty sure it's Zach
31:22 <Brunius> Jim?
31:25 <Brunius> James?
31:28 <Brunius> David?
31:31 <Ballig> Ben?
31:39 <Wrothmonk> you saw my username for the irc chat before I changed it didn't you?
31:47 <Ballig> you haven't changed it
32:00 <Ballig> well, you might have changed it, but you didn't disconnect/reconnect
32:16 <Wrothmonk> so what do you see?
32:21 <Ballig> your name
32:37 * Wrothmonk mutters something about a stupid app that won't get anything right.
32:53 <Ballig> There are two workarounds, either disable spotlight for the target drive during the install, or do a custom install where you deselect documentation and examples. Run the installer again as a full install to get the documentation and examples installed.
33:20 <Ballig> I'd suggest doing the second
33:30 <Ballig> do a custom install and deselect the documentation and examples
34:09 <Wrothmonk> useless stuff like credits and program examples for maybe pong am I right?
34:31 <Ballig> I've never really used the examples
34:38 <Ballig> and the online documentation is good
36:09 <Wrothmonk> K installing
38:54 <Wrothmonk> appears to be working.
41:24 <MekkisScreen> morning
45:06 <Wrothmonk> ok download done
45:12 <Wrothmonk> install i mean
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45:37 <Ballig> all right, now download and unzip http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA-2.2.95-source.tar.gz
45:55 <Wrothmonk> done
46:13 <Ballig> open DevCA.pro
47:23 <Wrothmonk> Cannot create file /Users/(Username)/.config/Nokia/qtversion.xml: Permission denied
48:30 <Ballig> open a terminal
48:36 <Wrothmonk> nvm got it
48:39 <Ballig> okay
49:06 <Ballig> if it's open now, try Build>Run qmake
49:14 <Ballig> and then Build>Build project
51:10 <Wrothmonk> ok I do not have anything that is labeled build
51:30 <Ballig> should be in the menubar
51:45 <Ballig> Should be like: File Edit Build Debug Analyze
51:45 <Ballig> etc
52:14 <Ballig> if you don't have that, find a hammer icon in the bottom left
52:22 <Wrothmonk> ok yeah just found that.
52:56 <Mort-> I had fun last night mek!
56:50 <Ballig> did that work
56:57 <Wrothmonk> select the devCA folder and click the hammer right?
57:05 <Ballig> yeah
57:15 <Wrothmonk> ok a few issues came up
58:13 <Wrothmonk> wait I think i see the problem.
58:18 <Wrothmonk> give me a sec.
58:19 <Ballig> were they warnings or errors?
58:37 <Wrothmonk> errors.
58:44 <Ballig> what were they
59:02 <Wrothmonk> need to move the devCA folder
59:13 <Ballig> why
59:18 <Wrothmonk> I think
59:44 <Wrothmonk> "The build directory needs to be at the same level as the source directory."
02:06 <Ballig> click the Projects icon on the left
02:12 <Ballig> it tells you what the build directory is
02:17 <Ballig> can probably just change that
03:17 <Ballig> e.g. if you have it unzipped to /Users/(Username)/DevCA/ you could make the build directory /Users/(Username)/DevCA/Build
03:57 <Wrothmonk> ok, slight problem.
04:32 <Wrothmonk> I don't see anything that looks like the build directory.
04:49 <Ballig> when you click on Projects on the left it should have a big heading that says "Build Settings" yeah?
05:07 <Ballig> the left hand side is a bar that has "Welcome / Edit / Design / Debug / Projects / Analyze / Help"
05:31 <Wrothmonk> no,  I don't have a projects heading on the left.
05:37 <Ballig> do you have any of them?
05:40 <Wrothmonk> I have a edit side which gives me projects.
05:54 <Ballig> what's under Edit
06:26 <Ballig> http://i1-mac.softpedia-static.com/screenshots/Qt-Creator_7.png
06:31 <Ballig> it doesn't look like that at all?
07:10 <Wrothmonk> no thats what it looks like… oh
07:22 <Wrothmonk> I thought you meant in the actual window.
07:26 <Ballig> :p
07:30 <Ballig> you weren't looking far enough to the left!
07:40 <Wrothmonk> I wasn't looking far enough up.
08:18 <Wrothmonk> ok select build project devCA right?
08:36 <Ballig> did you change the build directory
08:36 <Wrothmonk> or run qmake
10:41 <Wrothmonk> I don't see a way to do that.
10:53 <Ballig> do you see on the image I linked the projects icon on the left?
11:21 <Wrothmonk> yeah
11:25 <Ballig> you don't have that?
11:39 * Wrothmonk looks puzzled as it suddenly appears
12:44 <Wrothmonk> apparently I do.
12:52 <Ballig> in there, you can change the build directory
13:02 <Ballig> make it a subfolder of wherever the source files were unzipped to
13:53 <Mort-> Hi hydra :p
14:26 <Wrothmonk> ok the zip file you gave me created its own folder.
14:36 <Ballig> yeah
14:41 <Wrothmonk> so i put a folder in that and select the build destination to there correct?
14:48 <Ballig> yeah
14:50 <Ballig> that should do it I think
15:08 <Wrothmonk> no it didnt.
15:12 <Ballig> same problem?
15:16 <Wrothmonk> yup
15:21 <Ballig> what if you Build>Qmake first?
16:15 <Wrothmonk> comes up with that error as well.
16:27 <Wrothmonk> wait a second..
16:31 <Ballig> the only other thing I can think is to change the build directory not to use the subfolder, but just the same folder as the source code
16:36 <Ballig> which seems weird but that's what it seems like the error is saying
16:57 <Wrothmonk> ok I did the build when it was selected to a sub folder
17:00 <Ballig> I think it will actually create its own folder
17:00 <Wrothmonk> and it copied everything.
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17:25 <Ballig> yeah don't do the subfolder
17:28 * Mort- looks for tail
17:40 * Mort- pokes a n2h4
17:40 <Wrothmonk> wait found it
17:53 <Wrothmonk> it needs to be at the same level the folder was unzipped into
17:57 <Ballig> yeah
17:59 <Ballig> that's what I said :p
18:10 <Ballig> do the main folder without the subfolder
18:16 <Wrothmonk> I was doing it inside the folder it created.
18:32 <Wrothmonk> ok works...
18:33 <Wrothmonk> kinda
18:47 <Ballig> kinda?
19:00 <Wrothmonk> god a few more errors
19:09 <Wrothmonk> all stuff with code errors
19:14 <Ballig> errors or warnings?
19:26 <Mort-> How about a windows emulator?
19:33 <Mort-> Do those work on macs?
19:40 <Wrothmonk> not especially well
20:03 <Wrothmonk> ok two coding errors
20:04 <Mort-> Oh man
20:14 <Ballig> what are they
20:16 <Mort-> I have to sort out all my moment
20:18 <Mort-> Money
21:44 <Wrothmonk> Expected ',' or '…' before '>' token      offset dialog.h 20
21:48 * Mort- gets irritable and bites ballig
22:03 * Ballig sprays mort in the face with a water bottle
22:11 <Mort-> How about loading teamview and letting ballig in
22:19 <Ballig> Wrothmonk: looks like it might require a little proting, I'll have to work on it later
22:27 <Mort-> That's what i usually do to spare myself the trouble
22:28 <Ballig> proting/porting
22:45 * Mort- claws ballig
22:51 <Wrothmonk> K
22:52 <Ballig> I'll install a mac os x virtual machine that lets me install Qt
23:07 <Wrothmonk> I'll work on my character in the meantime.
23:22 <Mort-> I don't know. Is it possible to ca on a mac?
23:45 <Mort-> Id probably have tried to use a windows emulator
24:12 <Wrothmonk> I don't have any windows install disks, I need one for an emulator or dual booting.
24:16 <Ballig> Mort-: yes, I'll just have to check the compatibility issues with the code
24:23 <Ballig> it won't take me long once I have the virtual machine installed
24:30 <Wrothmonk> you just need to update.
24:38 <Ballig> I've compiled it onto three or four linux distributions
24:40 <Ballig> mac will be easy
24:42 <Mort-> Would it be easier if you just possessed him?
24:50 <Mort-> Using team view?
25:00 <Ballig> no, because if there are compile errors I will need to c heck them
25:24 <Wrothmonk> and if he did "possess" me he would be using my computer for possibly hours.
25:46 <Mort-> Go get harry potter and read
25:51 <Ballig> no :p
25:57 <Ballig> I'll just deal with it on my own system tomorrow
25:58 <Mort-> It should keep you busy for hours :m
26:02 <Mort-> :d
26:05 <Wrothmonk> I've already read it.
26:11 <Wrothmonk> it took me two hours for the first book.
26:19 * Wrothmonk is a speedreader.
26:34 <Mort-> First book is a wimp
26:51 <Mort-> Do the 5th book
27:02 <Mort-> It took me a whole afternoon
27:12 <Wrothmonk> 3 hours, give or take an hour.
27:15 <Ballig> I'm off to bed, tata
27:21 <N2H4> yo
27:22 <Wrothmonk> then again that was on a audiobook.
27:29 <Wrothmonk> cya ballig.
27:34 <Mort-> Whole afternoon is 4-5h
27:45 <Mort-> Are you auzzie?
28:09 <Wrothmonk> huh?
28:24 <Mort-> What time zone are you
28:26 <Mort-> Wroth
28:48 <Mort-> Once you start rolling feel free to ask the channel for advice
29:00 <Mort-> More brains are good
29:07 <Mort-> Also will give silly joker
29:09 <Wrothmonk> I'm in chicago actually.
29:11 <Mort-> Jokes
29:15 <Mort-> Wtf?
29:23 <Wrothmonk> I stay up late.
29:24 <Mort-> What time is it there
29:29 <Mort-> I'm asian
29:29 <Wrothmonk> 7:30…. am
29:47 <Mort-> You stayed up the whole night
29:54 <Wrothmonk> pretty much.
30:20 <Wrothmonk> my sleep schedule drifts around the world during the summer when I don't have a fixed time to get up.
30:56 <Mort-> Wuh.
30:59 <Mort-> That's strange
31:26 <Wrothmonk> not really.
31:35 <Mort-> If i stayed up the whole night
31:45 <Mort-> I would fk myself up big time
31:59 <Mort-> Well I've done it before
32:03 <Mort-> For pfs ^^
32:04 <Wrothmonk> mmm I don't because I woke up at 5:00 pm.
32:11 <Mort-> Its horrible though
32:23 <Mort-> I think it does affect your enjoyment some
32:46 <Wrothmonk> oh yeah. I remember raid nights with the guild in WoW.
32:48 <Mort-> I know the channel had a grouchy magus because it was 2 am my time
32:50 <Mort-> :p
33:22 <Wrothmonk> I don't raid much once the beta invites get sent out for expansion packs.
33:47 <Wrothmonk> The gear will be outdated by the time I get it so why bother.
33:56 <Mort-> Oh
34:06 <Mort-> I wouldn't raid now
34:23 <Mort-> Because I'm trying to catch as much pfs as possible :p
34:28 <Mort-> Pf will do too
34:33 <Wrothmonk> :D
34:42 <Mort-> But yeah had fun at local gameshop
34:49 <Mort-> I could tell a fine tail!
35:00 <Mort-> Btw I'm a mouse lemur.
35:04 <Mort-> I had fun last night!
35:10 <N2H4> yeah?
35:15 <Wrothmonk> yeah I think I'll just be playing PF instead of WoW. I never realized until now there are irc channels for D&D type stuff.
35:20 <Mort-> Think movie 300
35:25 <Wrothmonk> mouse lemur?
35:26 <Mort-> I am furry. I have 4 paws and a fluffy swishy tail!
35:30 <Mort-> Yes.
35:37 <Mort-> We had to wade through a huge mess
35:37 <Mort-> From magadascar.
35:43 <Wrothmonk> mortimer right
35:45 <Mort-> 4 of us
35:51 <Mort-> Mekkis keeps trying to crate me up
36:00 <Mort-> To sell as an exotic pet.
36:02 <Mekkis> oh 
36:06 <Mekkis> that reminds me
36:10 <Mekkis> <?lemur
36:12 <diebot> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18825901
36:18 <Mekkis> for you, mort
36:39 <Mort-> The rest of the time he tries to convince the world I'm a lemure and should be smited by the neighbourhood paladin
37:06 <Wrothmonk> I thought clerics were the smiters.
37:22 <Mort-> No
37:25 <Mort-> Paladin
37:30 <Mort-> Switch connection
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38:19 <Mort-> Comp crashed
38:25 <Mekkis> <?lemur
38:26 <diebot> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18825901
38:40 <Mort-> Btw mek. Thou shalt not crate murs!
38:52 <Mort-> They are about to be extinct!
39:10 <Mort-> They are furry and harm no one
39:16 <Mekkis> so I should put them in $1 million hardwood crates!
39:22 <Wrothmonk> `also they like to dance!
39:43 <Mort-> You need to leave them in their natural environment
39:49 <Mort-> For them to reproduce
39:59 <Mort-> This mur doesnt dance
40:09 <Mort-> She sings off key instead
40:31 <Wrothmonk> hey quick question, where do I put the weapon proficiencys?
40:46 <Mort-> What class are you even going to be
41:01 <Mort-> Say if you're a fighter id just put martial
41:14 <Mort-> And any of your race profeciencies
41:23 <Mort-> Mostly no one ever looks
41:25 <Mekkis> I don't bother putting them anywhere
41:31 <Mekkis> unless it's exotic
41:40 <Mort-> And exotic if anyone took
44:03 <Mort-> Anyway i do have a character who wouldn't bother being armed
44:04 <Wrothmonk> I'm going to be doing a elf wizard.  I suppose I don't really need them.
44:06 <Mort-> Oh make it 2
44:23 <Mort-> Don't forget your longbow ^^
45:01 <Mort-> I shot a small air elemental out of the air with it^^
45:15 <Mort-> Funny as heck
45:41 <Wrothmonk> you shot an air elemental with a bow.
45:45 <Wrothmonk> awsome.
45:56 <Wrothmonk> was it by accident or on purpose? 
47:57 <Mort-> I didn't want to use spells
48:10 * Mort- is an elf wizard too!
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48:38 <Wrothmonk> wait what?
49:02 <Wrothmonk> oh wait different nick.
49:07 Mort- has quit (Quit: Bye)
49:10 <Mort> switching
49:13 <Mort> from cell to pc
49:20 <Mort> Im almost always on cell
49:20 <Wrothmonk> ah.
49:23 Mort is now known as Mort-
49:33 * Mort- purrs
49:42 <Mort-> if you want to talk long stories here is slightly easier
50:00 <Mort-> besides I have some characters to tweak
50:12 <Mort-> Someone who must not be named, especially in front of avatar..
50:19 <Mort-> and yeah my elf wizard I named after myself, Mort
51:54 <Mort-> Oh dont name your characters after yourself though.
52:01 <Mort-> Mek says its one way to descend into madness :PO
52:02 <Mort-> :P
53:26 <Wrothmonk> eh, I find it easier.
55:13 <Wrothmonk> ok I've gotten to adding my class details in
56:03 <Wrothmonk> I've copied over the template from the beginner's guide, do I replace the current class skills with the actual class skills or do I add to the current list?
58:19 <Avatar> copy and paste your class skills into the class skills section, and cross class skills into the cross class skills section
58:35 <Wrothmonk> ty
00:30 <Wrothmonk> what about modifiers for the skills?
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02:44 <Mort> oh dear
02:48 <Mort> now Im in two places at one go
02:52 <Mort> this is fked up
04:09 <Wrothmonk> wait no I got the modifiers.
04:20 <Mort> what modifiders
04:31 <Wrothmonk> skill modifiers. 
04:33 <Mort-> oh
04:36 <Mort-> dear okay I got it
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05:02 <Mort-> okay
05:05 <Mort-> I think Im myself now
05:29 <Wrothmonk> ok it says here: Knowledge (all) (int) which do I put down as the skill stat?
08:46 <Wrothmonk> or do I put down both?
09:12 <Wrothmonk> hello?
10:16 <Mort-> huh?
10:20 <Mort-> skill stat is your int
10:24 <Mort-> that means any knowledge skill is int
10:32 <Wrothmonk> ah K
11:57 <Wrothmonk> ok it says: Skill Ranks per level: 2 + int modifier. So every class skill is 7? (my int modifier is 5)
13:54 <Wrothmonk> or is that how many ranks I spend between the skills?
15:28 <N2H4> so what happened?
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15:57 <mortswishytail> Sorry
16:03 <mortswishytail> Comp keeps crashing
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18:01 <Wrothmonk> ok it says skill ranks per level: 2 + Int modifier. That means I can spend 7 points for base skills right? or is every skill 7? (my int modifier is 5)
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19:59 <mortswishytail> Max is your character level
20:06 <mortswishytail> You have 7 skill points
20:14 <mortswishytail> You can spend them however you like
20:33 <mortswishytail> But each skill cannot be more then your character level in ranks
21:03 <mortswishytail> When you put one point into a skill its rank goes up by 1
21:29 <Wrothmonk> ah
21:56 <mortswishytail> So no saying I'm a wizard i shall put 7 ranks into spell craft!
22:03 <mortswishytail> Not at level 1^^
22:18 <Wrothmonk> ok, so I can just put one point to each skill then :D
22:23 * mortswishytail shakes tail
22:29 <mortswishytail> Sure you can!
23:18 <Wrothmonk> but wait, thats just from my class...
23:35 <Wrothmonk> I have 20 extra because of my int right?
23:40 <Wrothmonk> (int is 20)
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29:08 <Mort-> Uh. We all got out alive
29:18 <Mort-> Though they got to carry me out ^^
29:36 <Mort-> Final part was funny
29:46 <Mort> no
29:48 <Mort> you get your INT mod
29:50 <Mort> not yoru int
29:54 <Mort> so 20 is a +5 int mod
30:05 <Mort-> Group mage was very pissed with the witches familiar that alerted the entire village
30:08 <Wrothmonk> ah ok.
30:09 <Mort> congratations, you get 7 skill points per level, Including level 1
30:19 * Mort shakes Wrothsmonks hand with a furry paw
30:31 <Mort> okay. You have asked for wisdom...
30:32 <Mort> Got cookies? :D
30:33 <Mort-> Parting shot once we were out of range of their javelins
30:39 * Mort paddypaws around Wrothmonk
30:41 <Mort-> Rolled nat 20
30:46 <Mort-> Confirmation was 19
30:56 <Mort-> The raw without the mods
30:56 <Mekkis> why is your int 20
31:02 <Mekkis> sounds very min maxy
31:35 <Wrothmonk> I used the standard roll.
31:44 <Mort-> So he crit the raven familiar with a x3 longbow lol
31:50 <Wrothmonk> roll 4d6 and remove the lowest number
31:52 <Mort-> Splat. Nice one
31:59 <Mort> NO
32:01 <Mort> YOU DONT ROLL
32:02 <Mort> YOU POINT BUY
32:06 * Mort facepalms
32:20 <Wrothmonk> oh I guess I should have asked which system...
32:21 <Mort> but you can stil get 20 int if you want..
32:21 <Mort> :D
32:23 <Mort> ehehhee
32:25 <Mort> 20 point buy
32:28 <Avatar> you need the pathfinder society guide
32:31 <Mort> d20psfrd.com is your friend
32:33 <Avatar> there's a link on that newbie page
32:40 <Avatar> d20pfsrd.com has nothing to do with it
32:44 <Mekkis> you can throw 17 of your 20 points at one stat to get an 18
32:57 <Mort> really? I dont think mort is too unbalanced..
33:04 <Mort> and anwyay her int is 18 not 20
33:35 <Mekkis> adding racial modifiers makes that 20
34:16 <Mort-> Then we ran like the 9 hells were after us
35:14 <Mort> no
35:16 <Mort> she started with 16
35:19 <Mort> +2 racial mod = 18
35:29 <Mort> mek, I didnt really want to sacrifice that much
35:34 <Mort> I did add some con too..
35:39 <Mort> I am NOT going around with 8 con..
35:47 <Mort> but shes cool anwyay..
35:54 <Wrothmonk> ok how many points do I get at the start to purchase skills?
36:06 <Mort> that depends on how much INT mod you have
36:12 <Mort> suggest you start figuring your stats out now
36:22 * Mort fluffles
36:31 <Wrothmonk> yeah since I need to re-do them since its the purchase system.
37:48 <Wrothmonk> how many ability score points do I get to increase/decrease my stats?
39:03 <Wrothmonk> wait nvm
40:17 <Mort> youll have to figure it out
42:59 <Mort> 2662 gc on xyn...
43:01 <Mort> what should I get...
43:46 <Mort-> Anyway i didn't get to see it since i was taking a dirtnap with a few javelins sticking out of me - their final volley
46:23 <Wrothmonk> ok re-calculated my stats.
46:30 <Mort> wat u got
47:26 <Wrothmonk> well I decided to get my int up to 18, with my character being an elf he's 20 in.
47:32 <Mort> okay
47:35 <Mort> what price did you pay
47:37 <Mort> just so to look
47:47 <Mort> my final stats were 10, 16, 12, 10, 18, 10
50:15 <Wrothmonk> ok original stats withought spending for my elf wizard would be; 10, 12, 8, 12, 10, 10. 
51:12 <Wrothmonk> I increased my int by 8 so it would be 20 (now at 3 points left to spend)
51:47 <Wrothmonk> 10, 12, 8, 20, 10, 10
52:22 <Wrothmonk> I put two points in con so I wouldn't have a negative modifier. 
52:37 <Wrothmonk> 10, 12, 10, 20, 10, 10
52:57 <Wrothmonk> and one point into dex so it would be 13.
53:04 <Wrothmonk> how did you get so high numbers?
57:00 <Mort> racial mods
57:05 <Mort> +2 dex and +2 int
57:10 <Mort> and -2 cons
57:54 <Wrothmonk> ok let me think out loud for a second...
58:21 <Wrothmonk> yeah thats still not possible
58:41 Mort- has quit (EOF from client)
58:42 <Wrothmonk> you got wisdom to 18 for 17 points while also getting con to 18 points withought racials.
58:50 Mort- ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
59:21 <Wrothmonk> you spent over the 20 limit right there.
59:52 <Mort> okay my orginal stats without the modifiers are..
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