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06:37 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Jul  9 22:51:21 2012
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30:37 <Hydrazine> Did you post your character on the site?
41:08 <yogsolidis> Yeah
42:09 <Hydrazine> Mind if I take a look?
42:11 <Hydrazine> Name?
42:44 <[SW]Boomer> ParneyTolarin
43:00 <Hydrazine> Not you! I know Parnet.
43:03 <Hydrazine> Parney.
46:09 <yogsolidis> What name do you need?
46:48 <Hydrazine> Name of the character.
46:52 <yogsolidis> Vailard
47:21 <Hydrazine> Ooh, barbarians. I like barbarians.
47:27 <yogsolidis> =)
48:15 <Hydrazine> a barbarian archer?
48:22 <yogsolidis> Yeah
48:43 <yogsolidis> Urban barbarian can rage with +4 to Dex (or Str or Con)
48:44 <Hydrazine> Hm.. I don't think you can afford to start with a comp. longbow in pfs.
48:53 <yogsolidis> It's 100 gold
50:45 <Hydrazine> Sorry to break your heart man. I hate it when I gotta bring players bad news.
50:54 <yogsolidis> Eh?
51:14 <Hydrazine> " A composite longbow can be made with a high strength rating to take advantage of an above-average Strength score; this feature allows you to add your Strength bonus to damage, up to the maximum bonus indicated for the bow. Each point of Strength bonus granted by the bow adds 100 gp to its cost."
52:13 <Hydrazine> But I rather bring you bad news now than have a dm flip when they see something fishy.
52:37 <yogsolidis> Well, the cost is misleading on the chart. Lol. It says 100 gold.
53:05 <Hydrazine> I agree, a bit silly to put a big detail like that in the fine print.
53:22 <yogsolidis> A simple asterisk would do.
53:25 <yogsolidis> :o
53:26 <Hydrazine> Would a suggestion offend you?
53:35 <yogsolidis> no
53:47 <yogsolidis> Never have played an archer before
53:55 <Hydrazine> Thrown weapons until you can afford a bow capable of the badassery you intend to inflict.
54:05 <Hydrazine> +dex mod to throw, +str mod to damage.
54:34 <yogsolidis> Hrm. What kind of weapon would you suggest? Good idea so that I don't spend money on a normal longbow
54:57 <Hydrazine> You won't get that much range, but generally you end up fighting pretty close anyway, no?
55:08 <yogsolidis> Yeah.
55:29 <yogsolidis> I can rage to increase my STR for damage for the thrown weapons at early levels.
56:26 <Hydrazine> Javelins. 1d6, 30ft range.
57:46 <yogsolidis> I like :) Thanks!
58:35 <Hydrazine> I was looking up this earlier because I was playing a very high Str fighter.
59:29 <Hydrazine> And I realized that my options for ranged combat were my current 1d8 plain longbow, a 1d8+6 comp longbow for... about 1000 gold, or. javelins, at 1d6+6, for pocket change.
01:07 <yogsolidis> I'm finding the rules for PFS are much different for character creation. Makes it interesting to say the least.
01:22 <Hydrazine> More.. I think the right word is regulated.
01:57 <yogsolidis> Yeah
02:06 * Mort- uncurls out of her little ball
02:21 <yogsolidis> hihi.
03:08 * Mort- wags her tail and looks at yogsolidis curiously
03:31 <yogsolidis> O.o
03:34 <Hydrazine> yogsolidis, don't forget to take into account your armor check penalties on your skills.
03:40 <yogsolidis> I just fixed that
03:42 <yogsolidis> Also
03:43 <Hydrazine> Thats a Mort. Shes a lemur. You'll get used to it.
03:53 <yogsolidis> About how many javelins should I carry around?
04:01 <Hydrazine> If you give her a cookie, you'll never get rid of her.
04:04 <Hydrazine> Fair warning.
04:08 <Mort-> Lol
04:20 <yogsolidis> Good thing I have these double chocolate cookies. In case.
04:28 * Mort- rolls and begs for a cookie
04:45 <Hydrazine> Depends.. Is this your main method of combat?
04:57 <yogsolidis> -Tosses her a cookie!-
04:57 <yogsolidis> Yes.
05:00 <yogsolidis> It will be.
05:02 <Mort-> Javelins are simple weapons
05:17 <Mort-> Won't get destroyed right hydra
05:26 <Hydrazine> Yeah. Its thrown, not ammo.
05:29 * Mort- leaps into the air to catch the cookie
05:39 <Mort-> So id say 10-20?
05:51 <Hydrazine> I'd say 10 should do.
05:53 <Mort-> My inquisitor has 10 on him
06:01 <yogsolidis> Okee.
06:08 <Mort-> But again it isnt his primary
06:28 <Hydrazine> Carry clubs!
06:28 <Mort-> And i get to play him today
06:33 <Mort-> Will be interesting
06:38 <Hydrazine> They're free, 10ft range increment, also a 1d6.
06:41 <Mort-> Why clubs?
06:44 <Mort-> Oh lol
06:52 <Mort-> I took slings
07:19 <Mort-> So i can use improvised stones on the ground when i run out of bullets 
07:44 <Mort-> What should you bring when you're marooned on a deserted island?
07:51 <Hydrazine> Also, see this.
07:52 <Hydrazine> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/amentum
08:00 <Mort-> 60 ft ftw!
08:19 <Mort-> How much per piece?
08:36 <Hydrazine> no price.
08:51 <Hydrazine> And its 50ft, not 60.
09:17 <Hydrazine> But still. 50' covers most combat scenes
09:18 <Mort-> Ok 10 of those
09:26 <yogsolidis> They
09:32 <yogsolidis> are free?*
09:37 <yogsolidis> Where is the price
09:44 <Hydrazine> Its just a long bit of lether.
09:57 <yogsolidis> Gotcha.
10:03 <Hydrazine> Rather like clubs, I think they assume you're capable of finding as many long thing bits of leather as you want.
10:27 <Mort-> Ok 10 of those as well
10:29 <Hydrazine> Go to your local leather worker and beg scraps.
10:52 * Mort- rolls on tummy and begs
11:02 <yogsolidis> Gonna take all my cookies :(
11:06 <Hydrazine> Yeah, the beauty is you can store them wrapped. So you wrap them up during your night watch, or during mission briefing, or while you're walking.. or whatever.
11:11 <Mort-> Haha
11:23 <Mort-> Remember what hydra said
11:29 <Mort-> When is next game
11:59 <Mort-> Hydra. Give briefing on feats?
12:10 * Mort- raises paw to ask for permission
12:17 <Mort-> Or gear only
14:28 * Mort- hugs yogsolidis for cookie
15:00 <yogsolidis> -Twirls a cookie on his finger tip and flicks it to Mort- o.o;;
15:28 <Mort-> Is this your first character?
15:35 <yogsolidis> For PFS, yeah.
15:43 <Mort-> Would you like me to poke over more gear list?
15:46 <yogsolidis> I mostly DM my homebrew campaigns
15:50 <Mort-> What armor are you wearing
15:54 <yogsolidis> studded leather
16:10 <Mort-> Can barbs use shield?
16:48 <yogsolidis> yeah
16:50 <yogsolidis> Except for tower
17:02 <Mort-> You have 18 dex I'm guessing?
17:07 <yogsolidis> Yar.
17:58 <yogsolidis> Since I'm not using a bow any more (until I get more cash monies), I probably should go ahead and use a shield.
18:07 <Mort-> For home brew i have an inquis with 21 but again the gm gave us 4d6 and said don't drop any :p
18:13 <Mort-> Suppose ill need it
18:25 <yogsolidis> Yea'.
20:37 * Mort- tumbles into yogsolids
21:12 <yogsolidis> Mah cookies. They are becoming extinct.
21:36 <Mort-> Damn it
21:46 <Mort-> I'm not very good at archery
22:00 <Mort-> But i recommend precise shot
22:14 <Mort-> You decide to throw your javelin at a monster
22:24 <yogsolidis> I got that
22:29 <Mort-> If i were monster. I would bite you
22:30 <yogsolidis> Point Blank and Precise Shot
22:39 <Mort-> There is another feat
22:47 <Mort-> To let you ignore cover from allies
22:55 <Mort->  Can't remember it
23:04 <yogsolidis> Sounds familiar.
23:10 <Mort-> You probably will be hiding behind a shield and board guy
23:19 <Mort-> And grinning like a loon
23:45 <yogsolidis> Yey! -flails arms-
24:00 <Mort-> So when you shoot from behind him if youre directly behind you take -4
25:05 <yogsolidis> Improved Precise shot lets you ignore cover
26:47 <Mort-> Oh thanks
26:58 <Mort-> Sorry I'm not an archer
27:06 <yogsolidis> First time playing one myself.
27:10 <Mort-> I'm an arcane trickster! :p
27:26 <yogsolidis> I figured you for the tricksy type. o=
27:29 <Mort-> Well sort off
27:34 <Mort-> I love magic
27:48 <Hydrazine> The cover from allies is generally not really an issue.
27:50 <yogsolidis> Yeah, I normally play a bard/sorcerer myself
27:53 <Mort-> And ill almost find some excuse not to fight you head on
28:02 <Mort-> And run some where else
28:07 <yogsolidis> Hehe.
28:17 <Mort-> Well last game it did matter
28:44 <Mort-> Hydra is our melee specialist / style specialist
29:26 * Hydrazine bows.
29:28 <yogsolidis> What's he playing?
29:36 <Hydrazine> Currently, a tetori monk.
29:37 <yogsolidis> Oh, he's back
29:43 <Mort-> Also a combat maneuver specialist
29:44 <yogsolidis> Cool
30:11 <yogsolidis> I have a guy doing something similar in the game I'm DMing
30:30 <Mort-> Heh
30:37 <Mort-> Which combat maneuver
30:50 <yogsolidis> Tripping. It's annoying as hell.
30:51 <yogsolidis> ;p
31:05 <Hydrazine> you five foot step to avoid getting directly behind friendlies.
31:11 <Mort-> My inquisitor is probably going to trip without improved trip
31:19 <Mort-> Just to provoke aoos
31:33 <Hydrazine> Oh, I'd suggest carrying a more significant melee weapon too.
31:36 <Mort-> Ya but we were down a narrow corridor that day
31:50 <yogsolidis> Lol
32:04 <Mort-> Be glad it wasn't dirty trick :p
32:17 <Hydrazine> I think I have a rather large problem with archer types being unwilling to enter melee. Sometimes it either you or someone with less than 1/4th of their hp.
32:22 <Hydrazine> Be a man and save the day.
32:28 <Mort-> There are evil ninja/maneuver masters out there
32:46 <yogsolidis> As an urban barbarian I'll easily have that option. If I was a straight up archer type I might not
32:52 <Mort-> They do dirty trick. Blind. Then say. He's flat footed!
33:00 <Hydrazine> I was playing a polearm fighter who tripped alot. He was pretty awesome. Then he died. i'm still a bit sour over it.
33:02 <Mort-> Sneak attack like a loon
33:04 <yogsolidis> Manuevers (depending on the type) are one of the most annoying things to a DM.
33:27 <Mort-> Sorry hydra but I'm not going to run into melee any time soon
33:32 <Mort-> :d
33:37 <Hydrazine> Actually, I think he was very awesome, but I should. He was mine after all.
33:45 <Mort-> Yeah he was
34:09 <Mort-> Seriously though i missed him last game
34:15 <Hydrazine> He'd trip on his AoOs and put people on the floor during surprise rounds.
34:19 <yogsolidis> Buckler or heavy wooden?
34:21 <yogsolidis> shield*
34:22 <Mort-> No one had decent attack mods for nuts
34:26 <Mort-> Heavy wooden
34:48 <Hydrazine> Hmm. Don't forget about actions to use the shield.
34:51 <Mort-> We spent like 10 rounds trying to hit the monsters.
34:57 <Mort-> Move to draw?
35:21 <yogsolidis> unless it says you can quickdraw, yeah
35:32 <Mort-> Having a +4 to your attack roll does not work out well with a skeleton champ on you
35:49 <Hydrazine> Oh, about your PFS number, when you register the character on Paizo, they give you the last digit.
35:56 <Mort-> Having a longsword crit on you definitely ruins your day
35:58 <Hydrazine> As your first society character, Vailard will be -1.
36:04 <yogsolidis> I did. It's a 1. I already added it to my revised character
36:09 <yogsolidis> sheet
36:10 <Hydrazine> Awesome.
36:43 <Mort-> For the first time in that characters pfs history
36:49 <Mort-> She full wded
37:09 <Mort-> Its horrible when you're fighting something you can't land stuff on
37:16 <Hydrazine> Planning to go full archer, do the whole rapid shot/manyshot/deadly aim deal?
37:34 <Hydrazine> you mean like something that makes 5 or 6 saves in a row?
37:40 <Hydrazine> ....I know how you feel?
37:56 <Mort-> The only problems with javelins is they are melee weapons
38:08 <Mort-> Or something..
38:15 <Mort-> Loading them isn't a free action?
38:29 <yogsolidis> Yes hydra
39:00 <Mort-> But javelins are pretty cheap for starters
39:22 <Mort-> Also our urban ranger rocked the hourse down shooting 
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39:49 <Hydrazine> he could draw them as part of a move.
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40:00 <Hydrazine> So he can either move+draw+throw in one round.
40:01 <Mort-> I was reading an action to "counterspell" people trying to attempt to use charm person on him
40:08 <Hydrazine> Or not move+draw+throw in one round.
40:26 <yogsolidis> I'll primarily be melee slash spartan style until I can afford a good bow methinks.
40:27 <Mort-> Ill read rapid shot
40:29 <Hydrazine> Either way hes not suffering until level 6. By then he should have his superbadass shiny bow.
40:33 <Mort-> Yeah
40:38 <yogsolidis> Throw a javelin then get into melee
40:44 <Mort-> Ok
40:48 <Mort-> I don't like melee
40:49 <Hydrazine> With what? battleaxe?
41:04 <Mort-> Consider heavier armor
41:13 <yogsolidis> Haven't decided on the melee weapon
41:28 <Mort-> Maybe a breastplate when you can afford it
41:42 <Mort-> Or just use a chain shirt
41:42 <yogsolidis> Urban barb - lost prof with medium armor
41:51 <Mort-> Chain shirt
42:01 <Mort-> Magus standard gear
42:14 <Hydrazine> Did you know theres only one weapon in the book with a 19-20x3 crit?
42:20 <Mort-> If you do see my magus. You've been warned :p
42:27 <Mort-> What is it?
42:30 <yogsolidis> x_x
42:37 <Hydrazine> We discussed this before, mort.
42:49 <Hydrazine> Falcata, exotic.
43:56 <yogsolidis> How many characters do you guys have? ;p
44:05 * Hydrazine thinks.
44:09 <Hydrazine> 3 living and one dead.
44:19 <Mort-> God a lot
44:21 <Hydrazine> Though two haven't had much action at all.
44:41 <Hydrazine> I still have physical sheets for most of my homebrew 3.5 and other games.
44:45 <Mort-> 1 dead. 5 still around
44:59 <Mort-> I'm mostly not playing my sorc
45:46 <Mort-> Seems groups always don't have a use for arcane types
45:47 <Hydrazine> I think I rather bring Nearis out of mothballs than play Lyta, if I get the option and don't need the healing power.
46:03 <Mort-> Or groups always need someone to fiddle wand
46:09 <yogsolidis> I mostly DM, so I don't havea many characters. ;-;
46:28 <Mort-> So i usually end up playing some kind of melee
46:34 <yogsolidis> I have a gnome bard for someone elses homebrew campaign.
46:48 <yogsolidis> sandman archtype
47:15 <yogsolidis> I mentioned bard. Thus the crickets o=
47:33 <Mort-> The bad word
47:35 <Mort-> Gnome.
47:42 <Hydrazine> Mort's racist.
47:44 <yogsolidis> Pshaw. You'd like him.
47:54 <Hydrazine> You know why I really miss my fighter?
48:07 <yogsolidis> Is this gonna be a gnome punting joke?
48:09 <yogsolidis> Why? :o
48:18 <Hydrazine> Not because he was a big badass. Even though he was. Its because he was funny. My monk, hes not funny.
48:30 <yogsolidis> Heh
49:12 <Hydrazine> But a pair of barbarians with the teamwork feat for raging, would be totally sick.
49:18 <Hydrazine> ...maybe I need to make a barbarian.
49:36 <yogsolidis> A...gnome barbarian.
49:59 <Hydrazine> Little Man Syndrome?
50:02 <Hydrazine> No thanks.
51:08 <yogsolidis> So much hate.
51:32 <yogsolidis> I played a gnome barbarian once who got kicked out of his tribe for trying to mack on the chief's daughter.
51:40 <yogsolidis> He was dumb as hell.
52:05 <yogsolidis> But fun to play. O.o
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53:43 <Hydrazine> Sounds fun.
54:02 <Hydrazine> How many barbarians do we have in circulation now, Mort?
56:54 <yogsolidis> Updated the character sheet with weapons and various edits. Thanks for the help Hydra
58:53 <yogsolidis> : d
58:56 <yogsolidis> Oops
00:20 <Mort-> Most of us don't have a sense of humor
00:30 <Mort-> I tell you all my characters don't
00:43 <Mort-> Well morts the closest with one
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01:29 <Mort-> But our last convesation in character was funny
01:56 <Mort-> I'm a bounty hunter. I collect all kinds of weird bounties.
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02:42 <Mort-> Then you were like - you'll tell me when a bounty for monastrey trained young pathfinders come up, won't you
02:43 <Mort-> Lol
03:00 <Mort-> We only have worth atm
03:07 <yogsolidis> Haha
03:15 <Mort-> Rp moments
03:42 <Mort-> Then my character was like. Maybe. Its easier to catch prey unprepared.
04:05 <Hydrazine> Welcome.
04:09 <Hydrazine> I try to help!
04:13 <Mort-> Funny moments yeah
04:23 <yogsolidis> He musta been like >_>;;
04:41 <Mort-> But seriously my faction mission does that to me
05:24 <Hydrazine> So you did settle on the battleaxe.
05:34 <Mort-> Not that i mind overly much
05:47 * Mort- looks at those big weapons and gets nervous
05:53 <yogsolidis> Yeah
05:59 <Mort-> I'm a small mur.
06:01 <yogsolidis> Has nice damage
06:06 <Mort-> Small so i get reach :p
06:16 <Mort-> You want or not want to use shield on it
06:50 <Hydrazine> I would suggest also that you have your attack and damage rolls written down somewhere for raging stats too.
06:54 <Hydrazine> Just to speed up gameplay.
06:58 <Hydrazine> Unless you're too pro to need it.
07:00 * Hydrazine shrugs.
07:18 <yogsolidis> I got them in a small notepad document I can bring up. Handy having two monitors.
07:24 <Hydrazine> Sweet.
07:29 <Hydrazine> I do something similar.
07:56 <Mort-> I use note pad
08:11 <yogsolidis> It'll be my first time playing online. I primarily play tabletop with friends.
08:26 <yogsolidis> Is there anyway I can spectate the next game maybe? Get a feel for it?
09:14 <Mort-> Next time we game then
09:28 <Hydrazine> Uh oh.
09:32 <Mort-> Think its sat
09:39 <Hydrazine> You're carrying alot on this guy. Maybe javelins are a bad idea...
09:39 <Mort-> What's up hydra?
09:54 <Mort-> I didn't look at character sheet
10:13 <Mort-> Being on mobile is hard to see things
10:22 <Mort-> Use a sling!
10:47 <yogsolidis> I never messed with weight in my games. Is being on a medium load gonna hurt?
11:04 <Mort-> 20 move speed
11:27 <yogsolidis> Jeez. That sucks.
11:37 <Mort-> Or maybe in your case 30 since your base speed is 40 with barb fast movement?
11:41 <Hydrazine> Yeah, part of the difference with society play is that theres alot less handwaving of rules. I didn't used to deal with it in homebrews either.
11:54 <Mort-> I don't know when barb movement kicks in
12:03 <yogsolidis> I don't have it since I'm an urban barb
12:26 <Mort-> Ok. I haven't studied barbs
12:39 * Mort- blushes
12:49 <yogsolidis> I'm thinking of ditching everything and keeping a battleaxe and shortbow. Iunno.
12:54 <Mort-> To be honest.. i don't study classes without magic
13:31 <Mort-> Id probably go shield and longsword instead but i guess I'm a chicken
13:41 * Mort- sqawks
14:10 * Mort- clucks as well
15:04 <Mort-> Watch out for sneaking magi who like to hide behind you :p
15:50 <Hydrazine> Oh!
16:00 <yogsolidis> Or, I don't change anything and just apply my rage bonus to STR at early levels? Boost my carry weight from a 15 str to 19. Hrm.
16:29 <Hydrazine> Screw the javelins, take chakram instead. 30ft range and 1d8s, and it cuts 10lbs, you fatty.
17:00 <yogsolidis> lol
17:02 <Hydrazine> Its also slashing, which is uncommon for ranged weapons and I think better.
17:04 <Mort-> Haha!
17:41 <Mort-> Master work backpack!
17:55 <Hydrazine> Drop the clubs, thats 12 more. So 22 from your original 94. 72?
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19:00 <Mort-> Hi
19:06 <Mort-> Oh my tail didn't pop out
19:27 <Hydrazine> Scavenge the clubs if you need to. Pay attention to where those damn chakram end up.
19:36 <yogsolidis> I have never played with a Chakram..does the weapon return when thrown?
19:45 <yogsolidis> Ah, okay.
19:45 <Hydrazine> Only if you're Xena.
19:59 <Hydrazine> I don't think you're Xena.
20:06 <yogsolidis> Yeah, my character doesn't have boobs. So fail.
20:30 <Mort-> No. You need returning weapon property
20:34 <Mort-> Then they do!
20:37 <Hydrazine> Man, Jerus never worried about carry limits.
20:53 <Mort-> You see. For everything. There's a magical solution
20:59 <yogsolidis> If I was a normal barbarian I wouldn't be worrying about it either lol
21:03 <Hydrazine> He wore heavy armor anyway, and he capped out at 600lb.
21:09 <Mort-> Actually i don't worry about carry limits on hazak.
21:26 <Mort-> I worry his roc can't carry him and his gear ><
21:34 <Mort-> Lol
22:23 <yogsolidis> Bag of holding. Want.
22:44 <Mort-> Handy haversack
22:46 <Mort-> Cheaper
22:57 <Mort-> 2k gp only!
23:34 <yogsolidis> Damn rope is 10 pounds
23:45 <Mort-> Buy silk rope
23:49 <Mort-> Its 5 pounds
24:06 <yogsolidis> WHO NEEDS ROPE?! I'm Batman!
24:11 <yogsolidis> Good idea though. Hrm.
24:11 <Mort-> If youre really rich go for spider silk
24:19 <Mort-> 1 pound
24:27 <yogsolidis> How much is that
24:28 * Mort- helps with back packing
24:40 <Mort-> 10 gp on silk rope
24:42 <Hydrazine> Hoku is going to need to invest in some good rope.
25:11 <Mort-> I miss sushi
25:31 * Mort- is eyeing elven chain
25:33 <yogsolidis> Mmm. Sushi.
25:40 <Mort-> I have a lot of magic in me
25:47 <Mort-> Another player
26:16 <Mort-> If you drained me you would get a vial of mort magic
26:33 <Mort-> It'd be sapphire blue
27:04 <Mort-> I hate being a muggle :p
27:14 <Hydrazine> I've already said my bit about this.
27:22 <Mort-> Yeah :d
27:30 <Mort-> Magic makes life better!
27:41 * Mort- takes out a banner
28:13 <Mort-> And if you put me in an antimagic field id pine
28:45 <Mort-> Oh shit
29:02 <Mort-> Spider silk is 4 pounds and 100 gp
29:09 <Mort-> Stick with silk ropes
29:30 <Hydrazine> You get into light carry limit yet?
30:00 <yogsolidis> >_<
30:26 <kapow> where are you?
30:31 <Tashes> Radelaide
30:45 * Mort- believes she could probably learn to play a monk
30:47 <yogsolidis> I'm just too fat. I have to accept that.
30:55 <Mort-> :p
31:07 <yogsolidis> Could I safely ditch a grappling hook?
31:16 <yogsolidis> >_>
31:32 <Mort-> Don't
31:48 <Hydrazine> How close?
31:59 <Mort-> Last game i was trying to do the pirates of the carribean act
32:19 <Mort-> The throw grappling hook and shimmy across trick
32:32 <yogsolidis> 83 lb, haven't got the chakrams yet
32:40 <Mort-> Uh oh
32:45 <yogsolidis> So I'll be at 73
32:46 <kapow> i played like 2 sessions of a game in brisbane before our dm moved away :(
32:49 <yogsolidis> 4 away
32:51 <Mort-> Wheres all the weight coming from
33:03 <yogsolidis> Studded leather and the shield
33:08 <Mort-> Get a silk rope -5
33:11 <yogsolidis> I did
33:14 <yogsolidis> already
33:18 <yogsolidis> That is factored in
33:21 <Mort-> Get wooden shield
33:22 <Mort-> Don't use steel
33:26 <yogsolidis> It is wood
33:34 <Mort-> Uh oh.
34:24 <Hydrazine> Water? Who needs water?
34:32 <Mort-> Buy a master work backpack for 50 gp
34:33 <yogsolidis> I got it..ditch the explorer's suit and go naked. -8 lb.
34:39 <Mort-> Well hazak won't
34:43 <Mort-> Yeah!
35:05 <Mort-> Hydra you should be glad gms here don't account for rations
35:16 <Hydrazine> Hmm.
35:19 <Mort-> Because most of us don't carry any
35:23 <Tashes> I wonder if we could get an online group going.. 
35:23 <Tashes> hmm
35:23 <Mort-> But we should
35:42 <Hydrazine> I think, maybe you should just ask someone to carry your waterskin or grappling hook for you?
35:52 <kapow> you'd need a dm for that and it's not me i don't know enough
35:56 <Hydrazine> Jerus often carried things for the smaller party members.
36:07 * Mort- offers her backpack
36:13 <Hydrazine> Hes comfortable with the fact that his physique is his strongest asset.
36:16 <Mort-> I know. I dumped everything on you once
36:17 <yogsolidis> I think I can ditch the explorer's outfit and get something less fatty
36:38 <Mort-> 2 failed fort saves later...
36:46 <Tashes> i guess i almost could
36:54 <Tashes> i'll talk to some people :D 
36:54 * Mort- is a lemur rug
37:26 <kapow> I have all the books for it so if you need something looked or or can't get a copy I'll find it for you
37:29 <yogsolidis> Artisian outfit -4 lb. Bingo.
37:29 <Mort-> I think i should introduce you to grull.
37:48 <kapow> if you can't get pdf's I'll try scan and make you a copy
37:49 <Mort-> You would probably like him :p
37:56 <yogsolidis> Is he...is scary?
38:06 <Mort-> He is a half orc
38:15 <Mort-> He lets people do the thinking for him
38:35 <Mort-> He likes animals.
38:54 <Mort-> And will play with everyone's familiars/animal companions
40:16 <Hydrazine> Lyta, my witch, thinks Grull is a swell guy.
40:41 <yogsolidis> That sounds scary.
40:51 <Mort-> Reggie is bunny!
41:33 <Hydrazine> Thats Sir Reginald to you.
41:54 <Mort-> Big word. Not speak good.
41:55 <yogsolidis> Pwnt.
42:03 <Mort-> Reggie is easier.
42:12 <Mort-> If reggie not mind?
42:28 * Mort- gives reggie a berry
42:33 <Tashes> I've got a few of them, and i can borrow ones i don't have :)
44:07 <Mort-> I usually bring him around when group needs a tank/ clw user
44:09 <Hydrazine> Dunno if I can replace how awesome Jerus wasd.
44:33 <Mort-> But its a little scary when your clw user goes around kicking ass.
44:39 * Mort- hugs hydra
45:31 <Hydrazine> My fighter's still on the site if you want to have a look.
45:40 <Mort-> I really think pfs encourages turtling
45:42 <yogsolidis> How can I find him
45:48 <Hydrazine> !findchar Jerus
45:50 <diebot> Hydrazine, Character: Jerus, number: 352( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=352 )
45:57 <yogsolidis> Thankee.
45:59 * Mort- sighs
46:07 <Hydrazine> Turtling, huh?
46:17 <Mort-> I think so..
46:22 <Hydrazine> Know what my latest considerations are, Mort?
46:27 <Mort-> ?
46:40 <Hydrazine> What I could do with a really shield focused person
47:08 <Sn0uu> why can't I use "nick" instead of "nickop" ?
47:20 <Mort-> Shield bash feats but i think you lose your shield bonus
47:42 <Mort-> Not sure if you get them back with later feats
48:05 <Mort-> Not really sure about rules of shield fighting
48:07 <Mort-> Too.
48:40 * Tashes shrug
48:45 <Hydrazine> You do, but thats not where I'd be going with ti.
48:47 <Mort-> Technically jerus should be behind a shield wall..while hammering around i think
49:01 <Mort-> But pfs doesn't work that way
49:03 <Hydrazine> But most of the time he ends up not needing one.
49:20 <Hydrazine> Or there isn't really space in the party for two pure melee.
49:31 <Hydrazine> Unless you're doing Fighter Party.
49:33 <Mort-> Like khaz should not have been stuck right in the melee mess with no room to maneuver ><
49:35 <Hydrazine> ...Which we did once.
49:40 * Mort- sighs
49:46 <Mort-> Yeah. And that bridge
50:08 <Mort-> What do you intend to do with shield anyway
50:35 <Hydrazine> Be amazing.
50:37 <Hydrazine> What else?
50:56 <Mort-> Details. Hydra. Devil is into the details
51:05 <Mort-> No captain america?
51:45 <Mort-> And a sorc pally should not be only tank in party
52:02 <Mort-> Everyone was wiggling fingers that day ><
52:03 <Hydrazine> Raise the AC of friendlies nearby. Take the damage for them directly if necessary.
52:10 <Sn0uu> hi Tasha
52:37 <Mort-> What feats to increase ac of friendlier
52:38 <Tashes> Hiya
52:39 <Mort-> S
52:50 <Tashes> We were just talking about a dark heresy game. Are you interested?
53:02 <Hydrazine> Saving shield.
53:03 <Mort-> And the damage bit. How? Shield other?
53:12 <Hydrazine> In harm's way.
53:44 <Sn0uu> possibly
53:48 <Mort-> Looking
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54:01 <Sn0uu> I'd be interested in a game for sure :P
54:01 <Mort-> I think of magical solutions not feats
54:33 <Sn0uu> what time? Cuz i can only be on like now, an hour ago, and for another 5 hours from now
54:36 <Mort-> Ill check if i can pinch that idea
54:43 <yogsolidis> Had a phone call
54:48 <yogsolidis> Checking out your character
54:50 <Sn0uu> (timeframe wise, not "now" wise) :)
54:56 <yogsolidis> -tosses cookies-
54:57 <yogsolidis> >_>
55:15 <Tashes> Hm. I dunno. I'll ask around some more :) 
55:17 <Hydrazine> And either get to use the shield to avoid area spells, or cut damage by half if they don't attack me.
56:21 <Mort-> I rather force people to attack me if you get my drift
56:25 <Mort-> That's for hazak
56:32 <Hydrazine> Antagonize?
56:36 <Mort-> For you know. All those reasons
56:40 <Mort-> Considering
56:47 <Hydrazine> There isn't much in the ways to make your enemy attack you.
56:55 <Hydrazine> In Harm's way sort of works.
57:00 <Hydrazine> if they're close enough.
57:01 <Mort-> Problem is how do you do that. When immune to mind affecting
57:13 <Hydrazine> But you gotta admit, cutting damage to them by half helps.
57:27 <Mort-> I heard this whole ap is all about immune to mind affecting
57:30 <Hydrazine> If they're gonna be targeted anyway, why not give them 4 more AC, and cut the damage?
57:40 <Mort-> Yup
58:31 <yogsolidis> Nice. Love the polearm master flavor
58:42 <yogsolidis> Is that from UC?
59:42 <Hydrazine> Yes.
00:16 <Hydrazine> He tripped on AoOs during surprise rounds at +16.
00:40 <Mort-> I can't dps hydra. Except for grull
01:00 <Mort-> Kalara is a glass canon and shouldn't be allowed near a melee mess
01:02 <Hydrazine> Which was really awesome when hes the front man and a number of enemies run in to try to flank, and end up on their asses a square away.
01:19 <Mort-> Don't intend to let her get close to one anyway
01:37 <Mort-> Which has given avatar tons of irritation
01:44 <Mort-> Yeah i love trip..
01:52 <Mort-> Pity ill never be good at it
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13:30 <Mort-> Urk
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25:48 <Brunius> Wunderbar
25:58 <Brunius> I try to activate my DCI number and it leads me to a page that doesn't exist
41:45 <Sn0uu> ok cool
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49:50 <Avatar> are you playing on thursday
54:59 <MekkisScreen> contact wizards of the coast customer service
55:11 <MekkisScreen> also complain about the fact that they're dumbing down magic
55:33 <Brunius> But I haven't been around long enough to know that
55:48 <Brunius> As they would know since I'm activating a new DCI number
09:57 <Sn0uu> right, i need to see what time it is
11:38 <Sn0uu> i didn't bookmark the site it seems :(
11:52 <MekkisScreen> how is it a new DCI number
11:59 <MekkisScreen> you've been playing for years... right?
12:11 <Brunius> ...nope
28:52 <Avatar> it's in the topic man
29:00 <Avatar> you see it every time you join the channel
29:42 <Sn0uu> but thats your time
31:01 <Hydrazine> Pretty much the main reason I use the site, Sn0uu , is for the time conversion.
31:17 <Hydrazine> You set it up with your time zone, and it posts the schedule in local time for you.
32:07 <Avatar> the topic has our times, but the website is in the topic
34:28 <Sn0uu> ah, thx :)
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35:38 <Brunius> emailed
37:30 <Sn0uu> but ya that time is perfect, so thank you very much
37:47 <Sn0uu> and @ Mort - I'm "overseas" and can play :)
39:09 <Sn0uu> it keeps telling me to accept or decline the same invite, so if you have e-mail alerts, I'm sorry the system is being stupid >_<
41:10 <MekkisScreen> how many digits?
42:47 <Brunius> 10
43:01 <yogsolidis> Hey guys, I'm new and looking for a game. I left this on yesterday hoping to catch someone to talk to. How do I actually go about joining a game?
45:34 <Avatar> yogsolidis: have you played pathfinder?
46:19 <yogsolidis> Yes, I own all the books.
46:19 <MekkisScreen> hehe
46:30 <Avatar> got a pathfinder society character?
46:30 <yogsolidis> Played it pretty extensively
46:33 <yogsolidis> No
46:43 <yogsolidis> Never played in the society. Just homebrew campaigns
46:45 <Avatar> okay
47:00 <Avatar> you've got all the books, but do you have the Pathfinder Society Guide to Organised Play
47:18 <yogsolidis> I have it downloaded from like..two years ago?
47:31 <Avatar> get the latest version from paizo.com
47:42 <Avatar> the two year old one will be pretty obsolete
47:48 <yogsolidis> All right.
48:17 <Avatar> have a read through of everything here: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/newbie_guide.htm
48:23 <Avatar> and download everything it says to get
48:31 <Avatar> the PFS guide also has a link there
48:58 <Avatar> how good are you at creating your own character
49:09 <Hydrazine> if you're pretty sharp on pathfinder in general, making a pfs character should be cake, but we're here if you need us.
49:34 <Hydrazine> Oh, and don't flip if the IRC goes silent for a few hours. Happens. We show up eventually.
49:52 <Avatar> yeah you lasted 3 minutes without quitting, so you're already doing well
50:04 <yogsolidis> Hehe.
50:19 <yogsolidis> I got everything but the guide (the combat manager, etc)
50:34 <Avatar> are you good to create a character on your own or do you want some help
51:06 <yogsolidis> I'm good. Have 3-4+ years in the pathfinder system, primarily as a DM (hence why I'm looking to play).
51:31 <yogsolidis> Do I create it at level one (still getting the guide)
51:44 <Hydrazine> yes
52:44 <yogsolidis> My previous question though: How do I go about joining a game? After my character is created though.
53:29 <Avatar> I've sent you some invites
53:35 <Avatar> you can check the schedule on the site, or your email
53:55 <Hydrazine> Be here at the right time, mostly.
54:01 <Hydrazine> And stick around long enough.
54:03 <Avatar> that too
54:19 <yogsolidis> Thanks. :)
54:22 <Hydrazine> We have had some people who show up for game time, and then halfway through back out.
54:24 <Tashes> not being tash helps, too. 
54:33 <Tashes> they tend to be a bit tashist.
54:34 <Hydrazine> you're always busy.
54:34 <Avatar> what's going on tashes
54:39 <Hydrazine> having a personal life and stuff.
54:48 <Tashes> not much Avatar. looking at getting a dark heresy game running here!
54:59 <Avatar> are you going to run it
55:00 <kapow> ^_^
55:06 <Tashes> i had a friend who wanted to DM, and a couple people here seemed interested
55:11 <kapow> I had no part in this person coming to this conclusion
55:11 <Tashes> Hopefully i can put the two together
55:13 <kapow> promise avatar
55:16 <Avatar> what's dark heresy
55:21 <kapow> 40k dnd
55:25 <kapow> on the d10 system
55:29 <Avatar> is it good
55:52 <Tashes> all the players are human Avatar, and its a lot darker and more mental than a combat-based game
56:09 <Avatar> what is it, roleplay-based?
56:09 <Hydrazine> I thought it was more d100
56:20 <Tashes> Bit of both. 
56:23 <Avatar> I don't care if there's only a single race
56:39 <Tashes> i can send you the corebook if you like
56:43 <Avatar> please do
56:48 <Hydrazine> Its set in the 40k world, which is, really a shitty place to be.
56:50 <Avatar> or upload it somewhere and link
56:57 <kapow> avatar i actually have all the paper books too :D
57:01 <Avatar> I've never played 40k
57:04 <kapow> which is a first for me
59:42 <yogsolidis> The game time shown in this invite, is it according to the time I set on my profile?
59:58 <Avatar> yeah, should be
00:24 <Hydrazine> Does it say the same thing as the irc channel topic?
01:13 <yogsolidis> Yeah. It says 1pm + 10 GMT
01:37 <Avatar> check http://www.pfrpg.com.au/schedule.php5
01:41 <Avatar> and make sure you're logged in
02:18 <yogsolidis> Yeah. Okay. It says 1 pm.
02:26 <yogsolidis> I'm on ESt.
02:27 <yogsolidis> EST*
02:38 <Avatar> australian EST?
02:45 <yogsolidis> American
03:27 <Avatar> you haven't set up your timezone in your account options
03:50 <yogsolidis> Ohh. I forgot to hit save.
03:53 <yogsolidis> So it will be am
04:41 <yogsolidis> 11pm (adding 10 GMT)
04:42 <yogsolidis> Got it now.
04:51 <yogsolidis> Shouldn't be a problem, even still. I'm a night hawk over the summer.
05:05 <yogsolidis> Thanks!
05:05 <Avatar> love it
06:43 <Tashes> Hay!
08:08 <yogsolidis> Discovered the site on reddit. Some guy posted he was looking for a game and someone linked it in the comments.
12:57 <Mort-> Hello
17:32 <yogsolidis> hihi
30:16 <Tashes> :3
30:25 <Hydrazine> Hey look, people.
33:26 <yogsolidis> Ya.
35:25 <Hydrazine> Sup, Yog? Sort that barbarian out?
35:32 <Mort-> And murs
35:40 * Mort- murs around
35:49 <Hydrazine> Do you not think a pair of barbarians raging at +8 str and +8 con would be well, impressive?
37:54 * Tashes pets Mort- 
38:03 <Hydrazine> I was looking, and I found something for you, Mort!
38:06 <yogsolidis> Yeah, I got him worked out
38:26 <Mort-> What?
38:36 <Hydrazine> http://www.amazon.com/The-Complete-Book-Cheese-ebook/dp/B004TIJJ2Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1341977902&sr=1-1&keywords=complete+book+of+cheese
38:38 * Mort- jumps on hydra
39:19 <Mort-> Totally awesome!
39:27 * Mort- hugs hydra
39:42 * Mort- shares the book with everyone!
40:19 <Mort-> It would. Because me and you. Hydra. Would end up playing those barbs
40:40 <Mort-> But to be honest i would love playing with team work feats
40:44 <yogsolidis> I can get that free on my kindle fire. sweeett
40:45 <Mort-> Should we? :p
41:21 <Mort-> First. Decide on two complimentary classes. Part 2. Both characters are not allowed to be played solo :p
41:28 <Hydrazine> I found it while specifically looking for free books.
41:44 <Hydrazine> Which includes the theory of relativity, and the origin of species, if you're curious.
43:07 <yogsolidis> I have so many things to read on my kindle...but why not. -delves deeper-
43:27 <Mort-> Do you mind having 2 characters that firstly we must say won't be around without each other,
43:28 <Mort-> ?
43:29 <Hydrazine> What sort of things do you read?
43:54 <Hydrazine> falchion and butterfly sting on one side, scythe on the other..
44:00 <Mort-> I don't mind running that way personally since my availabikity
44:03 <yogsolidis> Primarily fantasy, medical thrillers (robin cook), and stephen king.
44:04 <Mort-> Is ftw.
44:08 <Mort-> Just for you.
44:14 <Mort-> Rogue?
44:29 <Hydrazine> Has to be pair of barbarians.
44:30 <Mort-> Between us someone is going to have to cover clw
44:37 <Mort-> Oh shit
45:23 <Mort-> That great. Uh none of us can use that wand?
45:26 <Mort-> ><
46:59 <Hydrazine> Cool. I've read alot of Mr. King. Not too much lately.
47:11 <kapow> ugh sudden depressing urge to really play a game of d&D is setting in :/
47:19 <kapow> I'm freaking out avatar! I'm freaking out!
47:27 <Hydrazine> Though I did pick up Under the Dome not that long ago, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
47:28 <kapow> gotta get a fix
48:20 <yogsolidis> I just finished that. I thought it was pretty good
48:58 <yogsolidis> Been trying to get through Brandon Sanderson's The Way of Kings. It's taking me a long time to get through it. I keep putting it down >_<
50:59 <Hydrazine> oh my god.
51:01 <Hydrazine> Way of Kings.
51:05 <Hydrazine> I read it in like 2 days.
51:18 <Hydrazine> And then moaned about not having any more of it to read for weeks.
51:49 <Mort-> I still think for teamwork feats its either fighters or inquisitors
51:53 <Mort-> Maybe rogues
52:13 <yogsolidis> I'm like halfway through. Kaladin just survived the storm and Shallan just stole Jasnah's soulcaster
53:16 <Hydrazine> I think a big part of how I judge a fantasy/sci fi book now, is how eager I'd be to play a tabletop game set in it.
53:27 <yogsolidis> Ditto lol
53:34 <Hydrazine> I'd totally jump into a game there.
54:27 <Mort-> Way of kings by who?
54:32 <Hydrazine> Brandon Sanderson.
54:53 <Hydrazine> I couldn't put that one down. About the quickest reading I've done in a very long time.
55:20 <Mort-> Wow we have it in the library
55:54 <yogsolidis> I just keep getting distracted. I need to finish it. ;p
56:26 <Hydrazine> You're gonna be in one wicked book hangover.
57:23 <yogsolidis> Yeah, I think he's writing the last of the Wheel of Time novels too?
57:26 <yogsolidis> So it's gonna be a while
57:29 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
57:39 <Hydrazine> I couldn't get into Wheel of Time.
57:52 <yogsolidis> I read the first three books. I couldn't either. =\
58:03 <Hydrazine> Currently I'm reading some crazy ass book. Its taking me a while.
58:12 <Hydrazine> I think I got about 3 books in too.
58:15 <yogsolidis> Which one?
58:29 <Hydrazine> Only Revolutions. Mark Z. Danielewski.
59:27 <Hydrazine> The whole thing is in like this free form poetic verse style.
59:32 <Hydrazine> And thats just the start.
59:41 <yogsolidis> Never heard of it
59:45 <yogsolidis> Sounds bizarre o.o
59:49 <Mort-> Hm
59:57 <Hydrazine> The start of the crazy, not the start of the book
00:49 <Hydrazine> I'm only even trying it because I think hes immensely creative, for trying to bring innovation to print media. I think hes pretty unique.
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02:12 <Hydrazine> It is bizarre. But its making sense. Eventually. If you understand that on some topics, there simply isn't going to be detail.
03:59 <tashphones> Book's really messed you up, huh?
04:16 <Hydrazine> I'm just under halfway through, physically.
04:24 <Mort-> Uh...
04:29 <Hydrazine> Which I think equates to 2/3rds or so.
04:30 <yogsolidis> Was reading about it. Sounds interesting
04:36 * Mort- has very specific tastes.
04:42 <yogsolidis> Go on ;p
04:50 <Mort-> Fantasy. Lots of magic
04:52 <Mort-> Lets in
04:53 <Mort-> In
05:01 <Hydrazine> Well.. The front half of the book is longer than the last half.
05:02 <Mort-> Go
05:05 <Hydrazine> ...Yeah.
05:10 <yogsolidis> Well, aren't you magical.
05:16 <Mort-> No politics please
05:28 <yogsolidis> ?
05:35 <yogsolidis> Is that book about politics?
05:36 <yogsolidis> o;
05:41 <Mort-> I am. Me without magic = one limp mort
05:42 <tashphones> The book is a wizard, harry
05:51 <Hydrazine> ^
06:13 <Hydrazine> Show me another book where I can say, honestly, that the first 180 pages really are longer than the last 180 pages.
06:15 <Mort-> I don't really get into political intrigue
06:21 * tashphones does like limp things :)
06:26 <tashphones> Doesn't*
06:26 <Mort-> Nope
06:33 <Mort-> I can't function without magic
06:36 <Mort-> :p
07:08 * Mort- pines in an antimagic field
07:29 <Hydrazine> Oh, Tash.
07:32 <Hydrazine> I found the soundtrack for it.
07:37 <Hydrazine> But I haven't given it a go yet.
07:55 <tashphones> Ooh
08:02 <Mort-> I don't do sci fi much either
08:05 <tashphones> Whos it by?
08:14 <Mort-> No horror stories. I want my sleep
08:20 <Hydrazine> Biffy Clyro. No idea.
08:25 <Mort-> Don't want to dream of a troll under my bed
08:28 * tashphones shrugs
08:51 <Hydrazine> But the title of the album matches, and atleast two of the track titles seem appropriate.
08:59 <Hydrazine> Maybe more of them will when I get further into the book.
09:18 <Hydrazine> What about an evil jacuzzi, Mort?
09:33 <tashphones> Do the songs use functional sentences?
09:43 <yogsolidis> Some do
09:50 <Hydrazine> Haven't gotten there yet.
10:52 <yogsolidis> Oh
10:54 <yogsolidis> Lol
11:08 <Hydrazine> But I am starting to think that some of the elements of the book are intentional misdirection.
11:12 <yogsolidis> I thought you asked if songs use functional sentences. Lol. >_< Didn't realize you were talking about the book
11:15 <Hydrazine> Only there to make me wonder if its important.
11:23 <Hydrazine> No, shes asking about the soundtrack FOR the book.
11:26 <yogsolidis> I'm getting tiirred
11:32 <yogsolidis> Yeah
11:32 <Mort-> No no and no
11:48 <yogsolidis> Wow. I shut up nao.
11:49 <yogsolidis> Heh.
12:19 <tashphones> Lol
12:38 <tashphones> All good yog :) where you from?
12:48 <yogsolidis> South Carolina.
12:49 <yogsolidis> US
12:56 <tashphones> :O
13:01 <tashphones> More Americans
13:02 <Mort-> Sg
13:05 <Mort-> Singapore
13:27 <Mort-> Like a fuzzy mur should be
13:32 <yogsolidis> Hehe.
13:35 <tashphones> Second question: are you, have you been, or do you intend to be, a military type?
13:46 <yogsolidis> No. I teach high school.
13:55 <Hydrazine> Huh. What do you teach?
13:59 <yogsolidis> History
14:01 <tashphones> Yay, finally a real person
14:05 <Mort-> Oh dear
14:17 <Mort-> You would be good at handling lemurs.
14:19 <yogsolidis> I just graduated last year
14:29 <Mort-> They act like little kids :p
14:36 <tashphones> Congrats!
14:44 <Mort-> When they get excited they don't speak in complete sentences
14:59 <yogsolidis> What about you tash?
15:06 <Hydrazine> Shes an Aussie!
15:07 <Mort-> History is ok though i prefer geog
15:08 <Hydrazine> Oy oy oy!
15:20 <tashphones> I terrorise hydra. 
15:28 <Hydrazine> you know, by now.. the audio at http://www.onlyrevolutions.com/ sounds perfectly reasonable.
15:33 <Mort-> No you don't
15:43 <Hydrazine> Shows what you know.
15:47 <Hydrazine> She totally trolls me.
15:53 <Hydrazine> She Shen ults in just to KS me.
15:54 <tashphones> Yeah, Im an aussie. Phone autocorrects to Russia. 
15:58 <yogsolidis> That's okay Mort, I can decode sentences that are not complete. Sometimes. Comes with the job. o=
16:05 <Mort-> But. She's so fuzzy
16:09 <Mort-> She can't do that
16:17 <yogsolidis> Which part of Aussieland?
16:18 <Mort-> Ask hydra what happened yesterday
16:26 <[SW]Boomer> D&D, then you may want to try another channel?
16:28 <tashphones> Adelaide. 
16:34 <tashphones> What happened yesterday?
16:42 <yogsolidis> At least you got the shield from the shen alt.
16:49 <yogsolidis> Ayee.
16:51 <Mort-> I don't believe tashes would do mean things to you 
17:01 <tashphones> I travel a lot yog, adelaide is a grandma state. 
17:05 <Mort-> Anyway I'm calm today
17:13 <yogsolidis> Ahh.
17:14 <Hydrazine> But she does it when I'm Solaf and was wrecking some nub.
17:28 <Mort-> Solaf?
17:33 <Mort-> Friendly fire?
17:35 <Hydrazine> Or when I'm Horseman and fed.
17:43 <yogsolidis> Yorick?
17:44 <Mort-> Friendly fire.
17:52 * Mort- ticks checkbox
18:00 <Hydrazine> Nah. I don't play Yorick. Yet anyway.
18:15 <tashphones> I did it because summoned tp was on cd and dammit Im shen so i go where i please
18:19 <yogsolidis> Oh, the horse guy. Hecar or something
18:24 <Hydrazine> I used to play alot of Jarvan. Until his ult got bloody useless, and even thinking his name means the whole enemy team has flash.
18:38 <Mort-> Oh that guy.
18:56 <yogsolidis> I typically jungle. Heavily. At least for 300+ wins currently. Rusty though. I haven't played in a while.
18:57 <Mort-> Btw tashes is a divination specialist wizard
19:05 <tashphones> I think i want urgot babe. 
19:07 <Mort-> With foresight
19:11 <Steven> Hello peoples.
19:13 <Hydrazine> You can't play Urgot.
19:23 <tashphones> Why not?
19:24 <Hydrazine> I thought your next one was.. Um. Not Urgot.
19:30 <Hydrazine> Because hes an AD caster.
19:33 <Mort-> So if she tells you to play a particular lol champion you do it
19:34 <Mort-> Ad?
19:36 <Steven> I am back from Paizocon
19:36 <tashphones> So?
19:44 <yogsolidis> Ezreal <3
19:46 <Hydrazine> You don't play AD casters.
19:50 <tashphones> Fag
20:08 <yogsolidis> Ezreal is my favorite AD caster.
20:12 <tashphones> That's the point. I need an ad. 
20:22 <Mort-> Hydra followed tashes advice and pwned the other side so hard
20:34 <Hydrazine> It happens once a day, usually.
20:41 <Hydrazine> She says "Hey, you should play X".
20:47 <Hydrazine> So I do. And then I rock their faces.
20:59 <yogsolidis> ^-^;
21:00 <Hydrazine> Like ending up solo top Nasus against an AP shaco.
21:03 <Hydrazine> Poor bastard.
21:08 <Mort-> I told you its foresight
21:10 <Hydrazine> Q-farmed his traps yo.
21:14 <Mort-> Once per day use ability
21:27 <yogsolidis> Who the hell, AP Shaco? What level are you guys
21:33 <tashphones> Today its cho, btw
21:58 <tashphones> Unranked, about 700 wins each
22:29 <yogsolidis> Nice
22:31 <Hydrazine> Nah, you're at like 750.
22:38 <Hydrazine> I'm still under 500
22:51 * tashphones shrug
23:04 <tashphones> Yog they have aram mode now
23:17 <yogsolidis> I stopped playing during the spring. My classes/kids got time consuming.
23:19 <Hydrazine> But I play more junglemumu and xin, with a bit of AP carry and solo top action.
23:39 <yogsolidis> I love jungle amumu. *-*
23:44 <yogsolidis> aram mode?
23:53 <Mort-> Oh another amumu
24:03 <Mort-> Weren't you doing him the other day?
24:09 <Hydrazine> And some cap'n teemo. Cause hes hybrid. And bunny teemo makes tashes rofl.
24:20 <Mort-> Then you were doing a canon hammer guy too
24:30 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
24:48 <yogsolidis> We should play some day. I'm gonna be rusty as hell though.
24:59 <Hydrazine> I'm Hydrazine there too. Easy to find me.
25:11 <yogsolidis> mine is runekiev
25:21 <Mort-> I'm not any use
25:33 <tashphones> Aram - all random all mid. You get instalocked a champ, he map only has one lane, and there's some items you can't use.
25:34 <Mort-> Too slow reflexes. Totally untrained
25:38 <Hydrazine> hey, tash.. POOPS EGGS.
25:48 <yogsolidis> Interesting. Lol
25:53 <tashphones> Also there's a od on this bus called arya 
25:56 <tashphones> Kid*
25:58 <[SW]Boomer> <- Jealous
26:10 <Hydrazine> Ask her if winter's coming.
26:11 <Steven> It was fun, but super tiring
26:16 <Steven> i slept 11 hours in 4 days
26:23 <tashphones> Can't. Laughing. 
26:35 <tashphones> Floppy ears!
26:44 <Hydrazine> And hes bouncy.
26:50 <yogsolidis> Arya is like the best character, evar.
26:57 <[SW]Boomer> and now 12 hours in one day :)
26:58 <Hydrazine> This is known.
27:19 <Steven> actually, i slept from around 7pm yesterday to 11:30am today
27:23 <Hydrazine> I dunno how long you been gone, Yog, but theres a champ now who says Winter is Coming when selected.
27:26 <yogsolidis> Sigh. I still have to read the last book released in that series.
27:35 <Steven> and im pretty sure i could go and sleep
27:38 <Steven> a bit mroe
27:41 <Hydrazine> I'd say no rush.
27:48 <yogsolidis> Yeah, Seljuni? The girl who rides the bear. I unlocked her
27:49 <Hydrazine> Book 6 probably has atleast 5 years to go.
27:57 <Steven> but sam woke me and to tell me goodbye before work
28:14 <Hydrazine> Boar. There is a bear. He'd probably get pissed if someone tried to ride him.
28:15 <Steven> so, i decided i needed to wake up
28:15 <yogsolidis> I jungled with her a lot when she came out
28:21 <Steven> How was your weekend?
28:32 <yogsolidis> Oh yeah. Volibear. I used to play him too. Probably why I got them confused
28:49 <Steven> btw, got some boons while i was at paizocon
29:21 <tashphones> Voli is my jungle. 
29:29 <Hydrazine> Tash doesn't jungle much.
29:31 <yogsolidis> Gotta gank early with him
29:35 <yogsolidis> How do I aquire a PFS number? Looked all over this website.
29:35 <Hydrazine> She usually Shens stuff.
29:39 <tashphones> Sej is cool too. Because winter is coming. And the pigs name is bristles
29:40 <Steven> i can now be a Ifriti, Fetchling, or some lizard folk whos name i can never remember
29:40 <Hydrazine> Because Shen's everywhere.
29:45 <yogsolidis> Shen was a beast before I left
29:52 <yogsolidis> Najani or something like that
29:52 <tashphones> Still is
29:54 <Hydrazine> She thinks the piggy is cute.
29:57 <yogsolidis> Nagjani
29:58 <Steven> yeah thats the one
30:02 <Hydrazine> Hes the most banned champion in ranked right now.
30:02 <yogsolidis> Hee ;3
30:04 <Hydrazine> 90%.
30:10 <yogsolidis> DAmn.
30:12 <tashphones> Most called champ anywhere, shen 
30:14 <Steven> and i got a free townhouse in absolom
30:15 <Hydrazine> ...Yeah.
30:17 <tashphones> Banned*
30:18 <Steven> boosh!
30:19 <yogsolidis> Whew. That's crazy. Lots of red bull, eh?
30:20 <yogsolidis> Went from zero to  hero.
30:25 <Hydrazine> Its pretty much global.
30:36 <Hydrazine> I think Nordic servers ban Morgana slightly more than Shen.
30:43 <Steven> alright.... so pfs number
30:58 <Hydrazine> Which makes them unusual. I think it just means theres alot of Nords with a wicked Morg game.
31:24 <Steven> do you have an account at paizo.com?
31:27 <yogsolidis> I'm the LoL reddit. I see they are tweaking the stealth champs Twitch and Eve
31:32 <Hydrazine> Thats the funny thing.. I think he was fine before.
31:33 <yogsolidis> I'm on*
31:35 <Hydrazine> Are they?
31:37 <Hydrazine> huh.
31:52 <yogsolidis> Yes
31:55 <Hydrazine> Not surprised really. Very uncommon champs from what I see.
32:08 <yogsolidis> I've played PF a lot, just never the PFS stuff.
32:10 <Steven> okay, along the top righthand side of the site, you will see a link to your account
32:12 <Hydrazine> I just want Jarvan and Sona fixed.
32:23 <tashphones> Too many poptarts. Motion sick. Bbl.
32:25 <yogsolidis> Clicked
32:41 <tashphones> Sona <3 :(
33:05 <Hydrazine> Tash, you should play maokai.
33:08 <Steven> sorry phone call!
33:09 <Hydrazine> So we can Xinkai stuff.
33:13 <yogsolidis> Npnp.
33:16 <yogsolidis> I hate Maokai's alt
33:23 <yogsolidis> Otherwise I'd jungle with him
33:28 <yogsolidis> ult*
33:29 <yogsolidis> not alt
33:38 <Hydrazine> better than Jarvan's.
33:46 <Steven> okay, so there should be a 'box' that has PATHFINDER SOCIETY
33:59 <Hydrazine> Best case its just no help. Worse case it gets my team killed.
33:59 <yogsolidis> Did they nerf it or something?
34:08 <yogsolidis> The site is taking forever to load for whatever reason.
34:21 <Steven> its post paizocon flood
34:30 <Steven> well, really its post any convention flood
34:44 <yogsolidis> Ughh.
34:45 <Steven> they have a lot of people checking the site
34:46 <Hydrazine> They didn't nerf it directly, but more and more of the kind of champs you'd target with it... can just leave.
35:07 <Mort-> Teleport
35:18 <yogsolidis> And everyone takes flash
35:18 <yogsolidis> lol
36:03 <Mort-> Kind of stupid when your ulti is so easily countered
36:04 <yogsolidis> As for uploading a character sheet...do I create a .txt file and upload that for the character?
36:50 <Steven> where are you uploading it to?
36:51 <Hydrazine> Ezreal. Kat. Yi. Graves. Fizz. Ahri. Akali. Cait. Fiora. Corki. leblanc...
37:06 <Hydrazine> Riven, Nid...
37:20 <yogsolidis> pfrpg.com.au
37:38 <yogsolidis> Yep.
37:50 <Hydrazine> I think its really simple. Just slap a short stun on the target.
38:04 <Hydrazine> Give me atleast a full second before the bastard can jump out.
38:25 <Steven> you'll have to talkt o ballig or avatar for that
38:30 <yogsolidis> An AOE stun when it goes down for 1 second
38:46 <Hydrazine> I don't even need it to be an AoE stun. I'd settle for single target.
39:12 <Hydrazine> Because I'm usually not trying to catch alot of people. I just want one bastard to have to sit there and deal with some Jarvan for a while.
39:21 <yogsolidis> Yeah.
39:40 <yogsolidis> He is pretty good at dominating his lane too
39:47 <Hydrazine> Yeah.
39:55 <Hydrazine> I usually win top with him.
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40:04 <yogsolidis> I like Mundo top!
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40:08 <Hydrazine> Unless its a good Yorick.
40:29 <Hydrazine> I don't play mundo because I can't use his ult properly.
40:50 <Hydrazine> Kinda like how I don't play lee sin because I can't use any of his buttons properly.
41:26 <yogsolidis> Lee Sin is my second favorite to use after Shyvana
41:29 <yogsolidis> in the Jungle
41:43 <yogsolidis> I don't like him in the late game though.
42:01 <Hydrazine> I jungle with mumu, xin, olaf, udyr and horseman.
42:17 <yogsolidis> Those are all strong junglers there.
42:33 <Hydrazine> Xin's definately the slowest of those though.
42:39 <Hydrazine> But his ganks are pretty strong.
42:41 <yogsolidis> I got my number. Thanks for the help
43:13 <Hydrazine> I think Olaf is better off in top lane, crushing people with that true damage.
43:14 <Steven> no prob
43:27 <yogsolidis> Olaf is awesome
43:48 <Hydrazine> Plus I find hes really difficult to gank with in his high mobility carry era.
43:53 <Hydrazine> yeah, a .txt file is fine.
44:06 <Hydrazine> theres a template on the site for an example.
44:17 <Hydrazine> Like earlier. I was junglaf with an enemy singed top and nid/ez bot.
44:19 <yogsolidis> Yeah, I saw that. Was just making sure of the format (txt).
44:31 <Hydrazine> I couldn't gank shit. Once nid hits a bush shes gone.
44:32 <Steven> So during the grand convocation 
44:45 <yogsolidis> Yeah. I can't stand her >_<
44:47 <Steven> My character Ausk got sent to another plane of existance by prismatic spray
45:09 <Steven> and the Gm was like oh my god im so sorry, blah blah blah
45:24 <Tashes> oh no
45:28 <yogsolidis> Dat spear.
45:34 <Hydrazine> I'm getting increasingly frustrated with how outragously fast she is.
45:54 <Steven> and im like, dont be, its totaly fine
45:55 <yogsolidis> Luckily her late game sucks ass.
46:33 <Steven> and everyone at the table was looked at me like i was crazy because i wasnt upset my character was effectively dead for the scenario
46:46 <Tashes> but then he came back as a demonhost?
46:58 <Hydrazine> Not if you get massacred early and midgame.
47:12 <Steven> at the end of the scenario, got myself located through scrying type means, plane shifted back, with a bunch of junk
47:20 <yogsolidis> Her poke will be strong late game with her Q, but besides that she'll be useless in a team fight
47:28 <Steven> and the gm was like, why do you have all this crap with you
48:07 <mortswishytail> Any entangle?
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48:16 <Steven> and i was like because im a pirate sir, while i was over there i engaged in piracy of the most grandest sort, just like the blessed Goddess Besmara
48:22 <Tashes> rofl
48:49 <Steven> btw, Day job check to put it all on my caravan and sell it to the highest bidders across the land...
49:02 <Hydrazine> Yeah. If you catch her, you catch her.
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49:12 <Mort-> Ok i hid my tail
49:18 <Steven> and then the table laughed
49:26 <yogsolidis> Is the tail magical?
49:26 <Hydrazine> But shes got more range than the entangles, and shes quick enough to leave before you get close to use it.
49:51 <Steven> i got max gold... yet again lol
50:10 <Hydrazine> So she floats around just a bit too far off, throwing these doom-spears at you.
50:11 <Mort-> I tucked it under my suit
50:15 <Steven> door brb
50:29 <Mort-> Stun + entangle
50:42 <Hydrazine> Stuns have similar ranges, for the most part.
50:49 <Mort-> Can see myself playing her :p
50:59 <yogsolidis> Iunno. Aside from ganking her, I've never had much problems with her.
51:22 <Hydrazine> Usually the answer for how to deal with Nid, involves ignoring her lategame.
51:25 <Mort-> Or blink entangle
52:19 <Hydrazine> Kill the rest of her team.
52:39 <Hydrazine> She either stays away and doesn't help, or she gets close enough to help and you give her some killing too.
52:47 <yogsolidis> Just can't let her endlessly poke at your team. Engage in a team fight and she's useless.
52:52 <Avatar> zzzz
53:02 <yogsolidis> WAKE UP
53:03 <yogsolidis> :o
54:58 <yogsolidis> or not.
55:24 <Mort-> Lol
55:43 <Hydrazine> whats great, yog.
55:58 <Hydrazine> is if you get lulu to ult on pharoah amumu.
56:07 <yogsolidis> lol
56:08 <Hydrazine> he gets a RIDICULOUSLY HUGE HEAD.
56:11 <Hydrazine> And then he bonks things with it.
56:15 <yogsolidis> I gotta youtube that
56:21 <Mort-> And?
56:52 <Mort-> Didn't know you can affect other champions physical attributes
56:57 <Hydrazine> And he turns the whole enemy team into hamburger.
57:12 <Brunius> all I saw was "ridiculously huge head" T.T
57:17 <Hydrazine> Sure. Not everyone can, but its not that uncommon.
57:19 <Brunius> Gutter mind, Go!
57:32 <Hydrazine> Most of the healers can give some kind of beneficial effect.
57:43 <Sn0uu> boo
57:52 <yogsolidis> Trundle steals stats with his ult I believe
57:57 <Hydrazine> Yep.
58:35 <Hydrazine> Mord steals health.
58:53 <Hydrazine> Chogath steals souls.
58:59 <Hydrazine> And eats them,
59:03 <yogsolidis> YOUR soul is mine!
00:32 * Mort- likes her soul
00:34 <Hydrazine> nunu/warwick double jungle got pretty famous because they both give eachother attack speed buffs.
00:38 * Mort- guards it
01:43 <yogsolidis> The one time I did double jungle (simply because the person who drafted below me was hell bent on jungling) we ended up winning lol
01:46 <Hydrazine> Jarvan can give all of his friendlies armor. Everyone likes armor.
02:42 <yogsolidis> Armor sehr gut.
02:47 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: give me some armour
03:06 * Mort- throws mekkis a trench coat
03:19 <Mort-> And you don't blow torch me today
03:36 <MekkisScreen> File.size() breaks on broken symlinks
04:47 <Hydrazine> I don't think you play, Mek. I can't give you armor.
05:28 <Mort-> He nethacks
05:54 <Avatar> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/738618/Dark%20Heresy%20-%20Rulebook%20%5BDH01%5D.pdf
06:00 <Avatar> 100 meg dark heresy rulebook
06:05 <Avatar> includes bookmarks
06:13 <Brunius> Are you guys getting into dark heresy?
06:15 <yogsolidis> I always wanted to try that game.
06:25 <Avatar> talking about it
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08:19 <Mort-> Not so sure about it
08:27 <Mort-> Not much into sci fi
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09:01 <yogsolidis> How do I register my name on here?
10:33 Sachiru has quit (Quit: Shutting Down )
10:35 <Avatar> do /nickserv register <password> <email>
10:54 <Avatar> and later /nickserv identify <password>
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15:14 <yogsolidis> Thanks
15:59 <Mort-> Uh a question for you hydra
16:54 <Hydrazine> Go on.
17:12 <yogsolidis> Is there any way to save this drop boxed file pdf to my desktop?
17:47 <Hydrazine> ohshit
19:02 <Avatar> yeah
19:40 <yogsolidis> Hell, I'll play this.
19:48 <Mort-> Lets say monster 1 moves close to me. I get an aoo with spear.
20:00 <Mort-> I miss. He is next to me.
20:24 <Mort-> He hits me. Or tries to. And misses.
20:37 <Mort-> Snake fang gives me an aoo
20:48 <Hydrazine> Only if you threaten.
20:50 <Mort-> Clearly i can't spear him anymore
20:59 <Mort-> Improved unarmed strike
21:14 <Mort-> So how will it play out. You know i have combat reflexes
21:21 <Hydrazine> Only as a monk does that count, by the way.
21:42 <Mort-> Besides i wear a cestus as well
21:46 <Hydrazine> you hit him and life goes on.
21:56 <Mort-> At full bab?
22:02 <Mort-> Or twf fighting rules
22:06 <Hydrazine> AoOs are always at full bab.
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22:54 <mortswishytail> Even when using 2 different weapons
23:39 <Hydrazine> If you're holding a whip in one hand and a dagger in the other, you can make AoOs with the dagger.
23:43 <mortswishytail> So as a monk i can choose to aoo him with my cestus still. Or use an improved unarm strike (elbow or kick)
23:55 <mortswishytail> No twf?
23:56 <Hydrazine> Similarly, on your turn, you can attack with either the dagger, or the whip, without penalty. but not both. Agree?
24:16 <mortswishytail> Yes
24:28 <[SW]Boomer> Now that's funny right there.
24:35 <[SW]Boomer> Hello Hydrazine!
24:42 <Hydrazine> hey boomer
24:49 <mortswishytail> If i wanted to i can make 3 attacks in one round?
24:50 <Hydrazine> If you aren't trying to attack more than your bab allows, it doesn't matter how many weapons you're holding, you aren't using twf rules.
24:57 <mortswishytail> Ah ok
25:04 <mortswishytail> If i used twf rules
25:13 <Hydrazine> it doesn't help your AoOs.
25:27 <mortswishytail> I see
25:30 <MekkisScreen> can't AoO with a whip
25:30 <mortswishytail> That's interesting
25:41 <mortswishytail> Yeah but dagger threatens
25:42 <Hydrazine> I never suggested that you could, Mekkis.
25:50 <mortswishytail> You threaten with a dagger next to you
26:00 <mortswishytail> So you would probably shove a dagger up him
26:03 <Steven> what hydra no hello for me?
26:21 <Hydrazine> So ausk is rich?
26:30 <Hydrazine> I think the only way twf affects AoOs, is high up in the two weapon fighter archetype.
26:37 <mortswishytail> Basically i have my cestus, and later my unarmed strike
26:41 <mortswishytail> Oh my
26:48 <Avatar> ambidexterity was such a stupid feat
26:49 <Steven> well he isnt poor
26:58 <mortswishytail> I could punch a monster. Kick him. And then bite him
26:58 <Avatar> why did they want you to take two feats to be able to use 2 weapons
27:07 <Steven> he owns a caravan, a townhouse, a ship and has like 38 prestige
27:19 <mortswishytail> Of course i probably wouldn't because of the horrible penalties
27:47 <Hydrazine> Yeah, a 13th level fighter archetype gets to take AoOs with both weapons.
28:03 <mortswishytail> Ok if you are making two melee attacks. Does that mean you can trip 2 people a round?
28:22 * [SW]Boomer waves to Steven
28:27 <mortswishytail> Say you twf two daggers. Can you trip 2 people?
28:33 <Steven> sup boomer
28:44 <[SW]Boomer> Livin' the good life here in Paradise.
28:55 <[SW]Boomer> Nice eye-candy, great weather. Life is good.
29:17 <mortswishytail> Trip is a combat maneuver that can be used in place of a melee attack
29:18 <Steven> Congrats, im living the mediocre life here in pergatory
31:04 <mortswishytail> Hm
31:35 <mortswishytail> I do have the dex to twf well
31:36 <mortswishytail> Just that i rather use shield
32:01 <Hydrazine> Technically I think its legal, even though I don't think I like it.
32:38 <Sn0uu> i live in an igloo!
32:44 <Hydrazine> If it was disarm or sunder, I'd have no problem with it.
33:03 <mortswishytail> I could possibly trip attempt the first person with a cestus. Then trip person 2 with my foot?
33:07 <mortswishytail> Now 
33:16 <Hydrazine> In analysis, I think its because I consider those two to be something you are clearly doing directly with the weapon.
33:30 <mortswishytail> How do you trip someone with a cestus though
33:37 <mortswishytail> That one i can't imagine
33:41 <mortswishytail> Your foot i can
33:54 <mortswishytail> Just sweep his foot from under him
34:17 <Hydrazine> I don't think you could do both in the same round.
34:30 <Hydrazine> Mostly because you cannot apply twf rules to unarmed attacks without using flurry.
35:09 <mortswishytail> Can i punch a person with a cestus and kick him in his ribs all in the same round,g
35:10 <mortswishytail> ,g
35:11 <mortswishytail> ?
35:20 <[SW]Boomer> I love igloos', crunchy on the outside, chewy on the inside.
35:26 <Hydrazine> What lets you perform the kick?
35:31 <mortswishytail> Twf will come in of course
35:40 <mortswishytail> Improved unarmed strike?
35:54 <Hydrazine> ..What did I just say?
36:07 <mortswishytail> You can't?
36:22 <Hydrazine> So lets say I make a level 1 fighter and take IUS.
36:26 <mortswishytail> I keep thinking unarmed strike as a light weapon
36:27 <Hydrazine> Can I make 2 attacks a round?
36:43 <mortswishytail> I thought you could?
36:48 <mortswishytail> Sorry.
37:25 <mortswishytail> But how do unarmed attacks work with Nat attacks then
37:38 <Hydrazine> Well, hm. I have to get more specific about it.
37:42 <mortswishytail> I could drop my spear and kick him. Then bite?
37:47 <mortswishytail> Toothy.
37:56 <mortswishytail> Half orc trait
38:16 <Hydrazine> Option A: Not a monk, you can take IUS and TWF and punch things both handed, but you can't kick.
38:20 <mortswishytail> God I'm going to function like an animal before this is over
38:37 <mortswishytail> Lets say I'm a monk
38:47 <Hydrazine> Option B: Are a monk, you can kick people all damn day while brushing your teeth and holding a flashlight, but you have to use flurry to do it.
39:05 <Hydrazine> lol.
39:09 <Hydrazine> I don't do cold very well.
39:42 <mortswishytail> Heh. There are rules that flurry doesn't kick in till you get feral combat training anyway
39:43 <Hydrazine> Only monks get to attack unarmed without using their hands, and part of the tie in for this is that they cannot use TWF.
40:21 <mortswishytail> Ah this is interesting.
40:29 <mortswishytail> God and complicated as well
41:27 <Hydrazine> I think the purpose is to keep non-monks from being able to attack without hands.
41:42 <Hydrazine> Or rather, to be able to use hands for other stuff and still fighting effectively.
41:47 <mortswishytail> The problem is I'm part monk or will be
42:10 <mortswishytail> And a large part of my aoos must be done unarmed
42:37 <mortswishytail> So i think ill be using a spear. Threaten at 10 ft
42:37 <Hydrazine> Nothing is wrong with doing AoOs unarmed while you're holding stuff.
42:50 <mortswishytail> And a shield
43:04 <Hydrazine> If you try and use the spear and unarmed in the same attack action without flurry, you run into problems.
43:14 <mortswishytail> But when the monster gets close i end up kicking his bum
43:33 <mortswishytail> Or punching him using a cestus
43:43 <Hydrazine> Drop the damn cestus as soon as you get monk levels.
43:50 <mortswishytail> Sure
44:05 <mortswishytail> I'm not a monk yet though
44:09 <mortswishytail> Next  level ^^
44:24 <Hydrazine> Okay. I'll say this one more time. And then we're done, right?
44:41 <Hydrazine> A monk taking AoOs regardless of what hes holding? No problem.
45:09 <Hydrazine> A monk using unarmed attacks as an offhand weapon? Not legal.
45:48 <mortswishytail> But for dr sake can i make unarmed attacks with a cold iron cestus?
45:57 <mortswishytail> On aoos?
48:51 <Hydrazine> Is the cestus holding the shield or the spear?
49:18 <mortswishytail> Spear or shield can be either
49:22 <mortswishytail> Or both also
49:47 <mortswishytail> Actually wasn't the cestus a glove? So you get them in pairs
49:56 <Hydrazine> I don't think it matters. And no, its singular.
50:54 <mortswishytail> Ok so its the I'm going to punch that fey in front of me
51:06 * Hydrazine thinks.
51:08 <mortswishytail> I need to use my cold iron cestus!
51:34 <Hydrazine> So, at level 1 you can wield both a whip and a cestus at once.
52:05 <Hydrazine> Aslong as you only make one regular attack per round, you are not using TWF rules, you suffer no penalty. Regardless of which weapon you attack with.
52:20 <mortswishytail> True.
52:34 <Hydrazine> And since you have a cestus, you threaten and thus can take AoOs.
52:49 <Hydrazine> This does not magically become invalid at higher levels.
52:57 <Hydrazine> This does not magically become invalid for taking monk levels.
53:33 <mortswishytail> So i can still take aoos with a cestus.
53:55 <mortswishytail> Dr issues or kicking the guy next to me would be cooler
54:32 <mortswishytail> But is it considered as an unarmed attack?
55:21 <Hydrazine> No.
55:26 <Hydrazine> Its considerd a cestus.
55:26 * tashphones cuddles mort because she's warm and fuzzy and tashes is cold
57:12 <mortswishytail> Shit
57:13 <Brunius> Females are wierd.
57:30 * mortswishytail cuddles tashes back
58:32 <mortswishytail> All my aoos need to be taken unarmed
58:36 <mortswishytail> Dr ftw
58:51 <mortswishytail> Brass knuckles here i come
58:56 <Hydrazine> Nope.
59:31 <mortswishytail> ?
59:54 <Hydrazine> brass knuckles are brass knuckles. Not unarmed.
01:32 <Brunius> I dislike the WotC site.
01:35 <Brunius> It's very clunky.
03:29 <mortswishytail> Will think of something
03:43 <mortswishytail> I'm not an inquisitor for nothing
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12:05 * kapow greets mort at the door with a bag of cookies and motions for her to take a seat.
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21:18 <Brunius> Apparently my DCI number doesn't exist
21:21 <Brunius> Sigh
23:21 * Mort- pads over to kapow and turns a pair of innocent black eyes on him
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06:55 <Sn0uu> yup
21:00 <MekkisScreen> Mort-: you shouldn't approach a thug like that: he might sense weakness and try and eat you!
26:39 <Mort-> He won't
26:43 <Mort-> I trust him.
26:45 * kapow motions for mort to take a seat.
27:04 <Mort-> Pst i have no ranks in sense motive
27:39 * kapow walks over to the table and places on cookie infront of the seat he was motioning to
27:40 * Mort- sits on her paws
27:56 * Mort- gobbles cookie
28:46 * kapow turns into a black dragon and eats mort
29:11 <yogsolidis> Got my character up and ready to go! I accepted for Friday 11pm.
33:05 * Mort- uses piercing to bite her way through stomach
33:37 <Mort-> By right you should have made an attack roll and grapple cmb roll
33:51 <Mort-> To do that. For 2 rounds
34:18 <Mort-> !throw 1d20+4 bite my way free
34:19 <diebot> Mort-, bite my way free: [1d20=9] 13
34:36 <Mort-> !throw 1d4+3 damage if i hit
34:37 <diebot> Mort-, damage if i hit: [1d4=4] 7
36:03 <tashphones2> I just bought four packets of oreos for $2. You jelly?
36:12 <tashphones2> Total, not each
37:55 <Mort-> You ate me up :(
47:03 <Mort-> Tashes. Kapow swallowed me whole :(
03:16 <tashphones2> Kapow!
03:24 <tashphones2> You terrible person.
03:31 <tashphones2> Save some for later!
06:30 <Avatar> if you want the inquisitor's handbook: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/738618/Dark%20Heresy%20-%20Inquisitor's%20Handbook%20%5BDH04%5D.pdf
06:38 <Avatar> for dark heresy
09:26 <kapow> you where flat footed and surprised mort
09:33 <kapow> and you should be making fearful presence saves
09:41 <kapow> before you can do snything anyway
10:05 <kapow> or i could reach up on my shelf avatar and pull it down ^_^
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16:28 <Steven> What up peeps
16:39 <kapow> hi bob
17:40 <Steven> bard now level 4 woot woot
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39:41 <Mort-> Well yeah but you didn't ask
40:09 <Brunius> Steven: How's Paizocon?
42:01 <Steven> it was pretty awesome
42:08 <Steven> met a lot of venture captains
42:34 <Steven> lots of Vls
42:38 <Steven> VLs even
42:45 <Steven> met mike brock
42:49 <Steven> and a bunch of others
43:14 <Steven> talked to painlord and kyle baird
43:20 <Steven> both cool guys
43:50 <Avatar> I bet you're just saying that
44:01 <Avatar> like oh yeah i've talked to the famous painlord and the famous kyle baird
44:07 <Avatar> and the famous mike brock
44:11 <Avatar> they are all cool, just sayin
44:16 <Brunius> Pics or it didn't happen.
44:21 <Avatar> I am cool with them and they are cool with me
44:24 <Avatar> we are friends now
45:02 <Steven> played with kyle baird and the son of Mike brock at a 12+ table 
45:07 <Steven> no we are not friends now
45:11 <Steven> i just played with them all
45:20 <Steven> kyle baird has a cleric with like 300hp
46:19 <Steven> also, i got plane shifted w/ prismatic spray
46:25 <Steven> totally awesome
46:51 <Steven> picked up a boon for ifrit
47:10 <Steven> for playing in the grand convocation i get to play as a fetchling once the next guide comes out
47:14 <Steven> according to mike brock
47:28 <Brunius> How common are convention boons over there, btw?
47:37 <Steven> got a free townhouse in absolom
47:50 <Steven> for every 2 games you played you basically got to roll the dice
48:09 <Steven> and depending on what you roll you got a different boob
48:11 <Steven> boon even
48:16 <Brunius> hawt
48:32 <Steven> everyone that came from pullman pooled their coins
48:42 <Steven> and we ended up with 22 rolls of the dice
49:58 <Steven> and then we just picked what we all wanted out of the boon pile
50:44 <Brunius> I've got terrible luck with boons
50:57 <Brunius> I've been to what, four cons?
51:00 <Brunius> And not a single boon
51:04 <Brunius> Of any type.
51:16 <Brunius> Although I did get a free book or two
51:22 <Steven> ive got a fetchling, ifrit, free absolom townhouse
51:35 <Steven> and all i gotta do is ask walter for a boon
51:40 <Steven> and i can get it
52:51 <Steven> everyones got an elemental race that went
53:05 <tashphones2> Hehehe Steven said boob 
53:19 <Steven> and so a group of four of us, walter, melissa, andrew, and i are going to make Team Avatar
53:23 <Steven> im going to be the uncle
53:24 <Brunius> Ain't that funny, hahaha
53:38 <Steven> Freudian slip 
53:56 <tashphones2> Haha boobies 
54:01 <tashphones2> :p
55:00 <tashphones2> I want roscoes:(
05:50 <Mort-> Well kalara leveled
06:28 <Mort-> Mort found a dead rakasha in her handy haversack
06:46 <Mort-> And xyn nearly got cleaved up an a skeleton champion
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07:20 <Steven> lets see, at paizocon, i went to the GM101 courses, and improved my Gming skills
07:40 <Steven> their big message was basically just lie to players if you dont know the rules and make sure you are in charge of the tables
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08:49 <Steven> then i did the grand convocation, where i played with kyle baird and mike brock's son
09:06 <Steven> did some fun stuff and then got plane shifted to another plane via prismatic spray
09:12 <Avatar> lie to players about what
09:19 <Steven> rules man
09:27 <Avatar> but players can just point to the rules
09:37 <Steven> if you dont know something they are basically like, make something reasonable up and roll with it as long as you are consistant
09:44 <Steven> and then look up the rule later on
09:58 <Steven> unless the player proves you wrong theres no reason to disrupt the game
10:27 <Steven> and even if it turns out you are wrong, correct it from that point on, but dont go back and change things retroactively
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10:44 <thatdude> hey?
10:48 <Steven> hello
11:02 <thatdude> Avatar here?
11:09 <Steven> I was a bit surprised at that bit of advice from them
11:12 thatdude is now known as Snow
12:16 Snow is now known as Sn0uu
12:26 <Steven> and the panel included two VCs, two VLs, Kyle Baird, and a 3 star GM 
12:37 <Steven> mike brock was in the room along with painlord
12:59 <Steven> and they didn't contradict the advice
13:37 <Sn0uu> what?
13:41 Sn0uu has quit (Quit: Chatmosphere for Blackberry)
15:39 <Avatar> what
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16:30 <Steven> Yeah, it was full of some good advice, although im still going to not make rules up
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20:50 <Mort-> Painlord?
20:57 <Mort-> Oooh!
21:20 * Mort- mouth drops open
21:38 <Mort-> I'm just a nooby little mur
21:40 <Steven> as i said, i met cool people
22:15 <Mort-> Ah well
22:29 <Mort-> Almost going to get gaming tonight
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15:40 <Mekkis> http://satwcomic.com/damn-kids
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54:06 <Mort-> Pop time!
55:14 <Mekkis> Push time
59:56 <tashphones3> Push pops? Those things were awesome
03:50 <Mekkis> no, I was referring to a hardware stack on an embedded microprocessor
11:31 <kapow> POP time i agree with mort ^_^
14:44 <Mekkis> FYI: out of the 1.8TB of data on my harddrive, 600GB was redundant
16:02 <Mort-> Boon companion check time
16:11 <Mort-> Hm i have a rogue buddy
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47:13 <thatdude> hi
47:29 <Brunius> Sup
47:39 <Mekkis> hi
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48:08 <Brunius> How friendly.
58:33 <Mekkis> don't worry
58:38 <Mekkis> he's an american
58:41 <Mekkis> using a blackberry
58:45 <Mekkis> what a noob
58:56 <Brunius> Woah, Mekkis.
59:03 <Brunius> Speaking pretty forcefully there.
59:11 <Mekkis> Who is Sn0uu?
00:37 <Brunius> I dunno, they've been lurking here for a couple of days
02:02 <Avatar> he hasn't been lurking
02:04 <Avatar> he's a new player
02:16 <Avatar> you've been lurking
02:30 <Mekkis> he seems to be a goddamn texan
02:38 <Mekkis> expect him to do a Bossman
02:46 <Avatar> bit judgemental
03:07 <Brunius> You've been lurking.
04:08 <Mekkis> actually...
04:21 <Mekkis> I'm.... surprised and disturbed
04:27 <Mekkis> by the client he uses
04:55 <Mekkis> http://69.41.182.139/
05:02 <Mekkis> Brunius, consider NOT visiting that site
05:31 <Brunius> Why?
05:57 <Mekkis> there's nothing Really Bad on there, but if someone sees it in your browsing history, they might get the Wrong Idea
06:08 <Brunius> to private browsing!
06:32 <Brunius> You could merely say it's a dating site
08:10 <Mekkis> why are harddrives named after fish and fish products?
09:02 <Brunius> They've gotta name them after something
09:32 <Brunius> I wouldn't mind them being named after mythical creatures.
09:35 <Brunius> That'd be pretty cool
09:41 <Brunius> Seagate Medusa.
10:21 <Mekkis> I have a Quantum Fireball
10:33 <Mekkis> but now it's all caviars and barracudas
11:49 * Mekkis looks at harddrives on his desk
12:08 <Mekkis> 320GB Barracuda
12:24 <Brunius> Oh, someone on a magic podcast mentioned Model Ms the other day
12:27 <Mekkis> 1500GB Barracuda
12:33 <Brunius> I'm wondering if it's something about the MTG community
12:33 <Mekkis> link?
12:46 <Mekkis> 425.3MB Caviar
13:05 <Brunius> http://www.commandercast.com
13:08 <Brunius> Somewhere on there
13:13 <Brunius> Don't remember which episode exactly
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25:39 <Avatar> Sn0uu: were you looking for me
45:51 <Sn0uu> kinda
46:00 <Sn0uu> i just wanted to make sure it was the right room lol
46:04 <Sn0uu> thx :)
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01:04 <Mekkis> http://satwcomic.com/leaking
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23:39 <Mekkis> Imagine a world where speaking or writing words can literally and directly make things happen, where getting one of those words wrong can wreak unbelievable havoc, but where with the right spell you can summon immensely powerful agencies to work your will. Imagine further that this world is administered: there is an extensive division of labour, among the magicians themselves and between the magicians and those who coordinate their activity. It's bureau
23:39 <Mekkis> cratic, and also (therefore) chaotic, and it's full of people at desks muttering curses and writing invocations, all beavering away at a small part of the big picture. The coordinators, because they don't understand what's going on, are easy prey for smooth-talking preachers of bizarre cults that demand arbitrary sacrifices and vanish with large amounts of money. 
26:48 <tashphones> ?
29:23 <Mekkis> Welcome to the IT department.
39:17 <Avatar> that's really any department
40:29 <Mekkis> really? I haven't seen words cause more harm than when entered into a root prompt
41:37 <Avatar> I have
42:29 <tashphones> "yes, your butt does look big in that"
42:45 <Mekkis> example please?
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