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14:02 <Avatar> Brunius: sorry, I was sleeping
33:09 <Brunius> huh, past midnight
33:12 <Brunius> I should sleep
33:15 <Brunius> night guys
56:09 <Mekkis> Brunius, join #asd
56:14 <Mekkis> and say "give me the warez"
56:22 <Mekkis> remember to be persistent
56:37 <Mekkis> so they know you're serious
51:23 <Sn0uubrb> so...
51:32 <Sn0uubrb> i guess Avatar, what do I need to complete my char?
53:00 <Avatar> do you have the PFS guide to organised play
53:36 * Sn0uubrb shrugs
53:53 <Avatar> what books do you have
55:57 <Steven> you going to use those stats on the page?
56:07 <Steven> 17/15/12/12/12/10?
59:32 <Sn0uubrb> i dont have books
59:39 <Sn0uubrb> i have the interwebz
59:44 <Sn0uubrb> yeah
59:51 <Sn0uubrb> 15/15 with my +2 to st
01:40 <Steven> meh.... double odd numbers are usually crap to have
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03:17 <Steven> why you putting so much into str you plan on going archer ranger?
03:23 <plivent> this d and d?
05:54 <Avatar> it sure is
10:28 <Avatar> you need the PFS guide at least
11:08 <Avatar> get this core rulebook: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/738618/PFRPG_SRD.pdf
11:38 <Avatar> here's the PFS guide, which you'll need to 'add to cart' and checkout, but it's free: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
15:34 <Steven> k.... avatar... sword and board shenanigans or ranged shenanigans? 
16:19 <Sn0uubrb> i like to carry stuff...
16:37 <Sn0uubrb> but i have a feeling that society wont let me have as much stuff as i'd want anyway
16:49 <Sn0uubrb> but i want ST for throwing things as well
17:06 <Sn0uubrb> but ya i guess i could go 16/16 and that would make more sence?
23:05 <Avatar> Steven: no idea what you're talking about
23:21 <Steven> which would you rather deal with
23:41 <Avatar> ranged I guess
23:47 <Avatar> you mean deal with as in play as
24:00 <Avatar> Sn0uubrb: concentrate on getting it started up first
24:07 <Avatar> do you have those two books
25:34 <Sn0uubrb> getting what started?
25:35 <Sn0uubrb> no
28:31 <Steven> guys.... i might make it to bed before midnight
28:42 <Steven> so crazy
29:30 <Steven> course, i wish i was out hangin with the boys playin some pathfinder, but no..... somebody had to tell me im staying home with her tonight
29:54 <Steven> talk about needy!
30:26 <Avatar> getting your character started
30:30 <Avatar> isn't that what you want to do
30:42 <Sn0uubrb> k, so i have the books, what does it change?
30:56 <Steven> everything
30:58 <Avatar> now you can read the instructions on what to do
31:07 <Avatar> open up the PFS guide to chapter 2: character creation
31:59 <Avatar> go here and grab a character sheet template (pathfinder society) from down the bottom: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/files.php5
32:11 <Avatar> right-click, save link as
33:17 <Sn0uubrb> but like, where do i upload it to?
33:20 <Sn0uubrb> just the au site?
33:22 <Sn0uubrb> and thats that?
33:30 <Avatar> yeah but don't worry about that until you have to upload it
33:31 <Sn0uubrb> im just level one
33:43 <Avatar> download it first
56:54 <Steven> alright, sleep
57:04 <Steven> have a great one guys!
57:13 <Sn0uu> u 2
57:16 <Sn0uu> night
28:31 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
28:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jun 19 03:11 12 Liath
28:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jun 19 03:11 10 Aeli
28:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jun 19 03:11 11 Ehlana
28:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jun 19 03:11 9 Yogh
28:31 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jun 19 03:11 8 Jonathon
39:14 <Avatar> that looks a bit out of date
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00:09 <Steven> well im back
00:37 <Steven> step brother came over, guess he had an argument with my dad, so he gonna sleep on my couch
00:43 <Hydrazine> Crap, we gotta stop talking about Steve.
00:51 <Steven> no, dont stop
00:54 <Steven> this might be funny
01:00 <Steven> ill give you all the dirt on me
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11:50 <Steven> decided to restart my comp, so.... how bout them step brothers?
19:21 <Avatar> holy crap, you can get underwater crossbows now
19:55 <BoomerET> Where I come from we call those spear guns :)
20:21 <BoomerET> But yea, it's essentially an underwater crossbow.
20:33 <BoomerET> Now you've got me curious
48:23 <Steven> omg thats like crazy
48:29 <Brunius> ...
49:37 <Avatar> so call you maybe
50:01 <Brunius> Anything Bairaq should really have for less than 4k
50:18 <Avatar> link his sheet
50:30 <Brunius> it isn't fully updated on the site yet
50:41 <Avatar> potion of lesser restoration and wand of CLW/infernal healing are big ones
51:14 <Brunius> You know I can cast lesser restoration
51:21 <Brunius> and already have a wand of CLW
51:22 <Avatar> in 3 rounds
51:29 <Avatar> you'll be dead or losing by then
52:41 <Steven> yeah, theres no reason not to keep a potion of lesser restoration
55:37 <Steven> but anyways, potion of fly
55:46 <Steven> ring of feather fall
57:04 <Steven> handy haversack
57:08 <Avatar> potion of fly is fantastic for emergency use
02:39 <Brunius> yo steve
02:47 <Brunius> what do you think of the price of eggs
03:27 <Steven> i dont think about them
03:46 <Avatar> it's worth considering these days
04:00 <Steven> because i eat them maybe one ever two weeks maybe
04:54 <Steven> are the price of eggs going up in aust?
05:36 <Avatar> well let's just say, you never know when they'll "hatch"
05:57 <Steven> right....
06:09 <Steven> dont really have that problem
07:16 <Avatar> maybe not yet?
07:22 <Avatar> something to think about
07:52 <Steven> i dont get what you guys are talkin about... talking about a partially developed chicken fetus?
13:17 <Steven> that what we talkin bout?
18:31 <Ballig> I heard that obamacare is ruining the US
19:09 <Steven> meh
19:16 <Avatar> it's called obamacare?
19:29 <Steven> theres another official name for it
19:34 <Steven> but thats what everyone knows it as
19:44 <Steven> well everybody thats concerned with it
20:42 <Ballig> has it ruined your life?
21:19 <Steven> I'm on the fence.  I don't like that they are going to tax me because im too poor to afford it, but to white to get it for free.  I can however see the necessity for health care for those people that truly cannot afford it but have major medical problems 
21:49 <Avatar> interesting perspective
22:05 <Ballig> do you think it's a racially motivated policy
22:15 <Steven> not really.
22:30 <Steven> more poor white people in this country then poor black people
23:06 <Ballig> but don't poor black people get it better with this policy
23:48 <Steven> I honestly dont know.  Its my opinion that most people have a knee jerk reaction to it because they hate being forced into doing anything
24:33 <Steven> this case, providing health care for themselves and another few pennies on their paycheck for those people who cant afford it themselves.
24:34 <Ballig> do you think you were forced into participating
25:25 <Steven> I've not been forced into participating in anything, its not implemented yet.
27:26 <Ballig> do you have private health insurance
28:21 <Steven> I think the government could have worked out a better system then what they did. I do think that penalizing, i believe they use the term taxing, people for not being able to afford something that they dont want/cant afford is not cool.
28:35 <Steven> nope, i dont go to the hospital unless im dying, and then i pay it off myself
28:57 <Steven> in the last 10 years ive been to the hospital 3 times, its cost me around 11k
29:01 <Ballig> do you not want health insurance
29:18 <Steven> insurance for just me costs 275 dollars a month
29:49 <Steven> i view it as ive saved myself roughly 20k
30:01 <Ballig> that's some pretty expensive insurance
30:14 <Steven> well, i could lie on the insurance application
30:39 <Steven> and leave out that on my moms side my grandfather was certifiably insane
30:39 <Steven> died of heart attack
31:03 <Steven> her whole side has a history of heart disease
31:22 <Ballig> so do you think they could have solved the problem more by making health insurance uniform?
31:27 <Steven> my dads side has a history of heart disease and recently(my grandfather and father) cancer
31:31 <Ballig> e.g. not allowing companies to choose the premium you pay based on your medical history
32:11 <Steven> I would say that it would make it more affordable for me, and shift the cost onto them.
33:40 <Steven> frankly that is not capitalism, they have a formula that says insuring this guy will cost us around 40k in medical bills and so we should make at least 20k in his contribution to that before hand and then we will invest to make up the other half
33:49 <Ballig> I pay $80/month for comprehensive medical insurance with all extras
33:58 <Ballig> and that's Australian money - everything is more expensive here
34:50 <Steven> yeah, i have extra problems just with me, unknown cause of migraines, and an allergic reaction to wheat pollen/dander
35:02 <Steven> its what bumped it up so high
35:12 <Steven> before all my migraine crap
35:17 <Ballig> sounds like you'll be better off under the new system
35:23 <Ballig> with all those medical problems
35:29 <Steven> insurance was like 100 bucks for kick ass insurance.
35:52 <Steven> if i needed to go to the doctors cost me nothing, and prescriptions cost me like 2 bucks
35:53 <Ballig> insurance companies can't charge individual premiums for medical insurance in Australia
36:04 <Ballig> instead, they have a waiting period (usually 12 months) on any pre-existing conditions
36:30 <Steven> hell i had a knee surgery
36:36 <Steven> when i was 18 or 19
36:49 <Steven> cost me all of 350 bucks
38:03 <Steven> but alas... i dont work for that company anymore
40:29 <Steven> thats why im on the fence with it all... I could really use it, if I can afford it.
40:52 <Steven> If I cant afford it, i wont get it and then i will get 'taxed' for not buying any.
40:52 <Ballig> how much will you be taxed?
40:55 <Steven> dunno
41:05 <Steven> havent researched how much it will be
50:22 <Brunius> What do you think of gun ownership, Steven?
50:42 <Steven> I am a gun owner.
54:48 <Steven> dont tell mort, but ive never actually killed a squirrel
54:56 <Brunius> :O
54:57 <Steven> i just tell her that to freak her out lol
55:16 <Steven> cause she loves those furry rats
58:16 <Steven> whats z-lined?
58:28 <Steven> im guessing its banned
58:45 <Steven> brunius just messaged me on facebook asking why he got banned
01:47 <Steven> want me to tell him its cause he smells like fish?
04:32 <Steven> i kinda wanna watch hang em high...
04:47 <Steven> the old western w/ clink eastwood
04:58 <Steven> clint eastwood even
09:04 <Ballig> a z-line is a server ban, they're usually an accident
09:38 <Steven> damn netflix doesnt have hang em high... not that it matters
09:47 <Steven> sam just woke up long enough to tell me i should get bacon
09:59 <Steven> guess im eating eggs in the morning
10:24 <Steven> see ya all in a bit, imma run to the store and pick it up before i get bitched at.
13:06 <Brunius> Wonder what that was about
13:20 <Brunius> /say $ip
13:34 <Ballig> it's usually a mistake
13:46 <Ballig> when they accidentally z-line too big a range
14:09 <Brunius> ah, ok
14:25 <Ballig> unless you were spamming
14:26 <Ballig> were you spamming
15:01 <Brunius> why would i spam
20:50 <BoomerET> Yea, FGII Con is this weekend!
21:00 <BoomerET> Infrno Con 7 is next weekend
32:11 <Steven> why wouldnt he spam?
45:39 spider21b ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
45:45 <spider21b> hi
46:19 <BoomerET> Hello!
22:01 <spider21b> whats going on bommer?
22:06 <spider21b> boomer my bad
24:21 <BoomerET> Working hard
24:27 <BoomerET> Doing lots of copy/pasting
24:37 <BoomerET> Yes, a lot of my job entails copy/pasting
24:52 <BoomerET> You wouldn't think it would pay much, but you're be surprised.
53:27 Sn0uu has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
45:30 <Mekkis> what is your job titla?
47:58 Topic for #d&d is: PFS:Sat 21st 1pm (tier 1-5,Avatar) / Sun 22nd 1pm (tier 1-5,Mekkis) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
47:58 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Jul 19 14:07:53 2012
47:58 <***> Buffer Playback...
47:59 <***> Playback Complete.
50:56 <BoomerET> Lead Systems Engineer
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14:03 <Avatar> Brunius: sorry, I was sleeping
19:54 <Steven> mekkis
20:07 <Steven> i have a migraine, its your fault!
33:10 <Brunius> huh, past midnight
33:13 <Brunius> I should sleep
33:16 <Brunius> night guys
38:52 <Mekkis>  what did I do this time?
39:08 <Mekkis> I drafted two planeswalkers last night
39:13 <Mekkis> and played them both
39:43 <Steven> yup
39:45 <Steven> thats why
39:52 <Mekkis> and went 1-2 
39:54 <Mekkis> :(
41:16 <Brunius> :S
42:19 <Steven> sorry bout that mang
46:00 <Brunius> That's wierd
46:11 <Brunius> On release, Crysis 2 needed DX10
46:15 <Brunius> Now it only needs DX9
46:49 <Steven> so which planeswalker did you get?
51:44 <Brunius> Say, what encumbrance does full-plate count as?
56:10 <Mekkis> Brunius, join #asd
56:16 <Mekkis> and say "give me the warez"
56:24 <Mekkis> remember to be persistent
56:39 <Mekkis> so they know you're serious
08:51 <Brunius> Sweet, I can carry up to 260lb of stuff with no penalty
08:59 <Brunius> Screw getting a handy haversack
18:18 <MekkisScreen> heavy
18:32 <MekkisScreen> Steven: I got Chandra and Nicol Bolas
18:36 <MekkisScreen> played them both
18:44 <MekkisScreen> never got them both out at the same time though
25:57 <Steven> chandra
26:06 <Steven> chandra's second ability is pretty awesome
26:15 <Steven> but i dont really like her first or second
26:25 <MekkisScreen> yeah
26:27 <Steven> sorry ultimate
26:33 <Steven> you know what i mean
27:01 <Steven> wow i can do up to 36 damage if theres 6 targets other then me on the field... yay
27:52 <Steven> i silenced somebody in response to activating her second ability before, it was fun
29:22 <MekkisScreen> heh
03:24 <plivent> this d and d?
05:55 <Avatar> it sure is
31:26 <Avatar> who thinks wyrd will show up in the next 30 minutes
32:02 <MekkisScreen> not all that likely
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55:25 * kapow bounces up and down excitedly
55:30 <kapow> game ^_^
55:57 <Avatar> no game without wyrd
56:26 <Ballig> that's so Raven
57:08 <Avatar> why does he keep accepting games and not showing up
58:24 <Ballig> dunno
59:12 <Hydracell> Who?
59:16 <Ballig> Wyrd
59:59 <Hydracell> What's the scenario?
00:50 <Avatar> shades of ice 3
01:06 <Hydracell> Ouch. 
03:35 <Hydracell> Starting to think shades is a death trap.
03:50 <Ballig> it's season 2, right?
03:56 <Ballig> I think a lot of season 2 is hard
03:58 <Avatar> he didn't die
04:01 <Avatar> he just didn't show up
04:11 <Ballig> yeah, Hydra is just saying that shades of ice is particularly difficult
04:21 <Avatar> based on what :P
04:28 <Ballig> based on a TPK in shades of ice 1
04:36 <Ballig> and the difficulty with shades of ice 2 last weekend
04:50 <Avatar> was that tough in tier 1-2
05:03 <Ballig> I think the difficulty is above average
05:06 <Ballig> even in tier 1-2
05:06 <Hydracell> Yes.
05:16 <MekkisScreen> unless Grolschmir and Bob are there...
05:23 <kapow> so many potions/wand charges used up
05:30 <Ballig> Grolschmir and Bob did it at 4-5 I think
05:34 <MekkisScreen> yeah
05:46 <Avatar> if you've been told spoilers about the scenario, it's easy !
05:48 <Hydracell> We almost tpk at the end of 2. 
06:20 <Ballig> the last couple of encounters are really dangerous for SoI2 at tier 1-2
06:33 <MekkisScreen> yeah
06:56 <Avatar> look at it this way... it's not darkest vengeance
07:19 <Ballig> darkest vengeance is still a standout suicide scenario at 1-2
07:41 <Avatar> I can't believe they didn't retire it
08:20 <Hydracell> That's like being shot and saying 'atleast it wasn't <bigger gun>'
08:37 <Ballig> I can see that
08:48 <Ballig> being shot with a handgun and saying at least it wasn't a shotgun
09:43 <Avatar> it was more bad joke than realistic comparison
09:44 <kapow> or a bazooka
09:46 <Hydracell> Which means exactly what if the handgun kills you? 
09:56 <Ballig> you didn't say the handgun killed you!
09:57 <Ballig> :p
10:51 <Hydracell> I should be home in time to play. 
11:08 <Avatar> 10 minutes ago
11:16 <Avatar> when do you get home
11:34 <Hydracell> If I'm not too scared of shades. 
11:37 <MekkisScreen> have you played Dalsine Affair?
11:47 <Avatar> no
11:51 <Hydracell> No. 
12:10 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
12:16 <MekkisScreen> maybe I should run it
13:01 <Hydracell> Is my Aussie clock wrong? I got 12:40
13:08 <Avatar> it's 1.10
13:17 <Avatar> you've got adelaide time there
13:24 <Hydracell> Huh. My bad. 
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13:31 <Hydracell> Yeah. 
14:15 <MekkisScreen> I thinke The Darkest Vengeance's Reviews are great
14:25 <yogsolidis> Hola
14:29 <MekkisScreen> "It's a great scenario, if you modify 80% of it"
14:33 <Avatar> yo
14:39 <Avatar> yogs do you want to play a game
14:45 <Hydracell> Howdy.
14:49 <Ballig> Avatar: are you Jigsaw now
14:58 <yogsolidis> When?
14:59 <Avatar> sorry?
15:04 <Avatar> soonish
16:19 <yogsolidis> I'mma hafta pass for tonight. Birthday stuff
17:00 <yogsolidis> Heya Hydracell
17:05 <yogsolidis> Any relation to Hyrdrazine? ;p
17:08 <Avatar> oh that's right it's your birthday
17:12 <Avatar> happy birthday !
17:15 <yogsolidis> Thanks :)
17:25 <Ballig> how old are you
17:53 <Hydracell> This is the mobile hydrazine. 
18:11 <MekkisScreen> does it explode more readily?
18:51 <MekkisScreen> it's been pretty quiet without hte lemure here
19:05 <Steven> we've never had a lemure in here
19:24 <Avatar> she's convinced you she is one yet you think she can't be convinced she isn't one
19:39 <Steven> we've had somebody who professes to be a lemure
19:42 <yogsolidis> 27
19:52 <yogsolidis> Hello mobile Hydra!
20:15 <yogsolidis> Where ya at?
21:23 <yogsolidis> Oh and tell tash thanks for the birthday wishes. She signed off skype before I could get to her.
22:16 <kapow> so no game?
22:29 <Steven> happy B yogs
22:34 <yogsolidis> Ty!
24:11 <Hydrazine> Howdy.
24:25 <Hydrazine> Oh, I was in the car. Home now. And I'll tell her, Yog.
25:16 <MekkisScreen> personally, I see no reason to discourage such behaviours, Avatar
26:17 <Steven> you dont see reason to discourage delusional behavior? 
27:17 <Ballig> if you have no interest in the psychological wellbeing of the other person, there isn't much of a reason to discourage it
27:23 <MekkisScreen> this is a channel for roleplaying, isn't it?
27:36 <MekkisScreen> why shouldn't she be allowed to roleplay in here?
27:39 <Steven> suppose thats true ballig
28:01 <Ballig> I believe the comment is about how she has difficulty differentiating between her real self and her pretend selves
28:06 <Ballig> you've commented on the same thing before, Mekkis
29:07 <MekkisScreen> yes, and I think that creating separation is one way of doing that.
29:14 <MekkisScreen> online/offline separation
29:18 <Steven> so i told em im not cooking tonight, they order pizza
29:27 <MekkisScreen> good pizza?
29:28 <Steven> woot woot
29:40 <Steven> even bad pizza is still a decent meal
29:55 <Ballig> is it bad pizza
30:07 <Steven> i dunno
30:11 <MekkisScreen> so I tell the office I won't be around for the first 3 days next week, and the manager buys everyone lunch on thos three days :S
30:21 <Ballig> subtle
30:23 <Hydrazine> They don't like you, huh?
30:37 <Steven> they just came and told me they bought pizza, be delivered in about 35 minutes
30:42 <MekkisScreen> well... I didn't give them much notice
30:45 <Steven> dont even know where they got it from
30:50 <Steven> hopefully not pizza hut...
30:59 <MekkisScreen> it takes 35 minutes to make and deliver pizza?
31:02 <Steven> nope not pizza hut
31:09 <Hydrazine> When I had pizza in Brisbane, it was terrible.
31:09 <MekkisScreen> Snypt would kill you if he heard about that
31:12 <Ballig> I bet it's frozen pizza from a store
31:17 <Steven> its friday night
31:22 <kapow> buy crust pizza if your in brisbane
31:25 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: Brisbane, California?
31:26 <kapow> don't get anything else
31:33 <Hydrazine> Brisbane, Queensland.
31:35 <kapow> unless you go into wintergarden on queenstreet
31:44 <kapow> then there is an amazing wood fired pizza place in there
31:49 <kapow> best pizza i've ever had
31:51 <MekkisScreen> there are some good pizza places in brisbane
32:04 <MekkisScreen> but there are a lot of bad ones too
32:06 <Ballig> depends where you get it and what you're expecting
32:26 <Hydrazine> We'd only been there for a day. We didn't know any better.
32:41 <MekkisScreen> my problem with eating out is that I so often come home thinking that I could have done better
33:24 <MekkisScreen> that's one appeal of expensive breakfasts
33:38 <MekkisScreen> kapow, are you playing tomorrow?
34:10 <kapow> i am signed up to
35:02 <yogsolidis> Depending on when my tabletop game ends tomorrow, I'll be coming
35:17 <yogsolidis> but it might go late into the night
35:20 <yogsolidis> so dunno
38:37 <kapow> so no game today?
38:46 <kapow> if so tell me so i can go for a swim before it rains
39:44 * kapow kicks dirty
39:46 <kapow> dirt*
39:59 <Avatar> hydrazine: you ready to play?
40:37 <Hydrazine> Think I'm wimping out.
41:05 <Avatar> might be better to postpone it when we can get more people
45:25 <MekkisScreen> SOI3 was easy
46:53 <Avatar> maybe you guys should uptier
47:05 <Ballig> easy if you're Grolschmir
47:06 <Ballig> ha ha!
47:15 <Avatar> ha ha!
50:29 <MekkisScreen> or have Buck nearby
50:56 <MekkisScreen> the thing is, Grolschmir's plateaued. Buck hasn't
51:27 <Avatar> as long as you learn the spoilers you should be ok
52:18 <diebot> Added or updated sheets:  359
55:59 <MekkisScreen> won't happen again
56:45 <Avatar> well that's the best thing I've heard in a while
56:48 <MekkisScreen> oh, I identified what was wrong with the sheet archiver: wget was returning different return codes
57:36 <MekkisScreen> time to make about 500 queries to Ballig's server
58:00 <Ballig> can you make it use the pfrpg.com.au domain when it gives the link here
58:08 <Ballig> it sets off my highlights
08:06 <MekkisScreen> sure
09:46 <MekkisScreen> is the www subdomain required?
10:50 <Ballig> don't think so
15:51 <MekkisScreen> I apologise for sending so many requests to your server
17:52 <Ballig> I think I have unlimited bandwidth
19:23 <Avatar> holy crap, you can get underwater crossbows now
19:57 <BoomerET> Where I come from we call those spear guns :)
20:22 <BoomerET> But yea, it's essentially an underwater crossbow.
20:34 <BoomerET> Now you've got me curious
27:33 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
27:33 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 00:17 473 Judas
27:34 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 00:17 471 Henry
27:34 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 00:06 143 Ornsjach
27:34 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 00:06 144 Gweenot
27:34 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Jul 21 00:06 145 Chuckles
27:52 <MekkisScreen> that's slightly better
27:57 <Avatar> judas is my sczarni paladin
28:14 <MekkisScreen> what an original name
28:25 <Avatar> I think it's fantastic
28:39 <MekkisScreen> you think that of all your character's names
28:48 <MekkisScreen> I thought Odlaw was a great name
28:53 <Ballig> when I play with him I am going to offer him 30 pieces of silver
28:58 <Avatar> this one probably rivals Snickers
29:21 <MekkisScreen> I mean, an entire city was named after him
29:50 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I never thought waldo was a great name
30:00 <Avatar> I can't remember why I chose that
30:41 <Avatar> the last name was just waldo backwards, because I usually hate choosing last names
31:37 <Ballig> what is Judas' last name? Toiracsi?
32:02 <Avatar> Electio
32:10 <Ballig> it should be Toiracsi
32:16 <Avatar> probably !
33:06 <MekkisScreen> Odlaw was a great name though
33:16 <MekkisScreen> I might make a paladin named Odlaw
33:31 <MekkisScreen> I want to see how unpaladinlikeI can make a paladin
34:50 <Avatar> that's my idea !
35:16 <MekkisScreen> I've already built one
35:23 <MekkisScreen> he wears Hellknight Plate :)
35:39 <Ballig> I am going to make a sczarni paladin named Toiracsi Saduj
35:49 <Avatar> i hate you all
35:55 <Avatar> my paladin will be a king
36:00 <Avatar> but nobody will know he is a king
36:09 <MekkisScreen> my paladin will be a gnomish king!
36:19 <Avatar> yours is not a king but mine is a king
36:34 <Ballig> mine will be the saviour of mankind
37:01 <Avatar> mine will be one of the decemvirate
37:17 <Avatar> POSING AS A PATHFINDER the perfect cover !
37:35 <Ballig> mine will be all of the decemvirate because he will have dissociative identity disorder
38:49 <MekkisScreen> I wonder if anyone's created a character with the same name as Grandmaster Torch
39:06 <Ballig> "Grandmaster" is a pretty bad name
39:16 <MekkisScreen> no, I mean his real name
55:25 <Avatar> I'm going to make a shadow lodge rogue named Grandmaster Lantern
55:40 <Ballig> lanterns are better than torches
55:48 <MekkisScreen> oh, you don't know his real name...
55:53 * MekkisScreen mutters
56:16 <Avatar> who says I don't know his real name
56:26 <Avatar> do you know?
56:28 * Avatar mutters
56:34 <MekkisScreen> yes
56:48 <Avatar> you probably don't
58:05 <MekkisScreen> why would I lie about that
58:13 <Avatar> okay then, what is it
58:26 <MekkisScreen> do you really want me to spoil it for you
58:35 <Avatar> I already know
58:40 <Avatar> you probably don't
58:47 <MekkisScreen> ok, what's the first letter then
58:53 <MekkisScreen> and I'll tell you the last letter
58:57 <Avatar> that's a spoiler if you don't know
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02:39 <MekkisScreen> Sn0uu doesn't know
17:01 <Sn0uu> true story
17:41 <MekkisScreen> so I shouldn't spoil it for him
17:48 <Sn0uu> so
17:49 <MekkisScreen> what's your character's name, Sn0uu?
17:53 <Sn0uu> yes
18:10 <Sn0uu> or Snow if you don't like having numbers in names.... (Avatar)
18:24 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Snow
18:24 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Snow, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
18:27 <Sn0uu> is anyone getting anything from the steam summer sale?
18:29 <MekkisScreen> !findchar snow
18:29 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: snow, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
18:34 <MekkisScreen> is it on the site?
18:42 <Sn0uu> try Sn0u
18:42 <Avatar> he doesn't have a character
18:45 <Sn0uu> with 2 us
18:54 <Avatar> did you finish it?
19:01 <Avatar> or get part way through it?
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19:29 <Avatar> this is what's on the site: http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=464
20:00 <Ballig> is your character's name really sn0uu
20:02 <Ballig> how do you pronounce that
20:08 <Ballig> "snzeroyoo"?
20:17 <Ballig> sounds like someone sneezing
20:39 <Sn0uu> its pronounced Snow
20:44 <Sn0uu> its just 1337 speak
20:57 <Ballig> your character is named with 1337 speak?
21:04 <Ballig> were his parents retarded
21:36 MekkisScreen is now known as M3kk|55_1337
21:58 <M3kk|55_1337> does this make me c001?
23:05 <Ballig> yes
23:28 <Sn0uu> you mean 735
23:44 <M3kk|55_1337> no
27:13 <M3kk|55_1337> M three double k pipe fifty-five underscore one three three seven
27:18 <Sn0uu> You should just be glad his name isn't §/\/ohvv
27:37 <M3kk|55_1337> that's in violation of RFC1459
27:58 <Ballig> your face is in violation of RFC1459
28:04 <Sn0uu> ty
28:57 <M3kk|55_1337> Sn0uu: you should join #20,000
29:14 M3kk|55_1337 is now known as MekkisScreen
29:15 <Ballig> you need to stop telling people to do that :p
29:29 <MekkisScreen> but it's a cool channel!
31:22 <Sn0uu> o_O
32:29 <Sn0uu> so http://www.pfrpg.com.au/index.php5 is where i should officially have my final and updated char sheet?
32:45 <Ballig> yeah
32:58 <Ballig> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=464
33:02 <Ballig> I'm assuming you used the PDF
33:10 <Sn0uu> yeah
33:14 <Sn0uu> but i didn't complete it
33:16 <Ballig> yeah
33:31 <Ballig> when you submit from the PDF it updates it on pfrpg.com.au
34:43 <Sn0uu> yeah
34:44 <Sn0uu> i know
34:53 <Sn0uu> so is there a forum for this site?
35:12 <Ballig> nup, it's our website
35:23 <Ballig> we just discuss things  here
35:26 <Sn0uu> do u want one?
35:38 <Ballig> I doubt it would get used often enough to be worth it
35:50 <Sn0uu> they're free
35:58 <Ballig> still requires time and effort
36:03 <Sn0uu> i'll do it lol
36:21 <Sn0uu> server can't find google.com
36:44 <Sn0uu> nm
36:45 <Avatar> get a character together man
36:54 <Avatar> we'll give you as much help as you want
37:42 <Sn0uu> can i use this? : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AshfEc-IrAkidDJkaEx0ZFFCR0ZjQWJUeE9ET3RhZlE&output=html
38:36 <Ballig> in the end you can use whatever character sheet the GM will accept
39:04 <Sn0uu> Avatar, will you accept a google doc spreadsheet?
40:18 <Sn0uu> also, can anyone tell me why I have acrobatics 8 on that spreadsheet?
40:29 <Sn0uu> the stuff in grey is auto-populated
40:38 <Sn0uu> and the stuff in white is what I've entered
41:15 <Ballig> one of the reasons I dislike those kinds of generators/sheets
41:24 <Sn0uu> yeah
41:43 <Sn0uu> it seems to be due to my armor pen
41:46 <Ballig> looks like it's adding your ACP instead of subtracting it?
41:56 <Ballig> change your ACP to -3
41:57 <Ballig> instead of 3
42:32 <Sn0uu> AHA! thanks Ballig
43:09 <Sn0uu> it takes a min to update :p
43:17 <Sn0uu> and u have to refresh, but still
44:41 <Sn0uu> Avatar, will you accept a CharacterSpreadSheet instead of just a CharacterSheet?
47:04 <Avatar> yeah as long as it's readable
47:10 <Sn0uu> ok sweet
47:21 <Sn0uu> then... am i missing anything on this guys? (other than items)
47:21 <Avatar> the PDF should be better for that 
47:34 <Avatar> how come you're finding the spreadsheet better than the PDF
47:59 <Ballig> I think it automates a fair bit
48:06 <Sn0uu> sure des
48:07 <Sn0uu> does*
48:12 <Sn0uu> saves a lot of work
48:17 <Sn0uu> easier to learn on the go
48:17 <Avatar> man you need to ask questions about how stuff works now, not during a game
48:27 <Avatar> if your spreadsheet does everything for you, you'll never learn
48:36 <Ballig> just so you know, automated character sheets/generators really make it easy for you to not understand your character
48:38 <Ballig> and how things work
48:43 <Sn0uu> but isn't that what beginner games are for?
49:00 <Ballig> one of the easiest ways to learn the game is to actually make a character :p
49:06 <Sn0uu> i ask a lot of questions all the time no matter what lol
49:18 <Avatar> yeah but you should make some reasonable attempt to learn beforehand
49:25 <Sn0uu> this may sound weird, but i 'dont' read
49:39 <Avatar> what do you mean you don't read
49:58 <Ballig> you can't just ask people here everything instead of at least making an attempt to read it beforehand
50:00 <Avatar> as in you don't like reading books
50:01 <Ballig> or you'll do there is annoy everyone
50:02 <Avatar> ?
50:11 <Sn0uu> one frustating thing is when i read about the abilities, there are 4 different methods, and we dont use either of them
50:25 <Ballig> it's like when you go to a web forum and make a new thread asking a question without at least making an attempt to find the answer yourself
50:30 <Brunius> There are 4 and we don't use either?
50:53 <Sn0uu> yeah
50:54 <Avatar> what do you mean
51:20 <Brunius> Nevermind that that indicates that there are both 4 and 2, but we do use one of the ones in the book.
51:36 <Avatar> are you talking about str/dex/con abilities or something else
52:14 <Sn0uu> http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/gettingStarted.html ABILITY SCORES
52:17 <Sn0uu> yeah
52:34 <Ballig> that's when you ask "what method do we use to assign abilities?"
52:36 <Sn0uu> isnt' this the official site for PFS?
52:39 <Ballig> and we say "you use point buy, and this is the amount"
52:44 <Sn0uu> i did ask that
52:50 <Ballig> it's the ofificial site for PF
52:58 <Sn0uu> like 5 times
53:00 <Ballig> PFS is just a set of uniform guidelines that you use to play PF
53:01 <Sn0uu> and not back to back
53:13 <Sn0uu> at least 6 hours apart each time
53:15 <Ballig> do you have the guide to pathfinder society organised play
53:21 <Sn0uu> nobody answered me for the longest time >_< lol
53:44 <Sn0uu> i doubt it
53:44 <Ballig> how did you make the character on that spreadsheet if you didnt' know how to do the abilities
53:53 <Ballig> you need the guide for PFS
54:02 <Sn0uu> someone told me eventually
54:18 <Sn0uu> is that ...
54:34 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/playerResources
54:42 <Ballig> grab the "Guide to Pathfinder Society Organised Play" at the top of that list
54:45 <Ballig> you absolutely need it
54:56 <Sn0uu> yeah
54:56 <Sn0uu> k
55:01 <Avatar> it's the same one I linked to you yesterday
55:07 <Ballig> basically here's how it works
55:14 <Ballig> Pathfinder RPG is the rules to the game we play
55:34 <Ballig> Pathfinder Society is a type of "organised play", that lets people play in the same campaign world and with characters under different GMs
55:36 <Sn0uu> Ya i know Avatar, ty
55:44 <Ballig> Pathfinder Society will dictate a set of guidelines that you follow
56:11 <Ballig> so although there are several different ways to determine abilities, and if you were playing a regular Pathfinder RPG campaign the GM would determine which method you use, with PFS the guidelines have already determined it for you
56:18 <Ballig> and there are a lot of other things like that in the guide that you will need to know
56:28 <Ballig> for example, how to determine your hitpoints when you level up
56:32 <Ballig> how much gold you get at character creation
56:42 <Sn0uu> (PS, if this was on a forum, it would be much better imo)
56:45 <Ballig> whether certain abilities are not legal for use in PFS, etc
56:52 <Ballig> but this isn't a forum
56:57 <Ballig> that's not how we do things
57:26 <Sn0uu> and thats fair
57:34 <Brunius> This sounds harsh, but if you don't like our way of doing things, we aren't forcing you to stick around.
57:36 <Ballig> that's like walking into pawn shop and saying "if this was an online store, it would be much better"
58:54 <Sn0uu> well... i wont get into that
59:02 <Sn0uu> but i dont think thats harsh
59:08 <Sn0uu> and i do appreciate the help
59:35 <Ballig> we're happy to help as long as you make it obvious you're trying to help yourself too :p
00:14 <Sn0uu> i think one of my main issues is having so many different resources
00:19 <Sn0uu> and having too many options >_<
00:35 <Ballig> any tabletop RPG can be overwhelming at first
00:51 <Sn0uu> yeah
00:52 <Avatar> if you want, just stick with a pregen
00:54 <Brunius> tbh, at first, I just stuck with the core rulebook.
01:05 <Brunius> If it wasn't in the core rulebook, I didn't even look at it.
01:06 <Avatar> and learn some of the basics
01:11 <Brunius> It made it so much easier.
01:11 <Sn0uu> ya im probably going to change urban to regular
02:08 <Avatar> I don't know just how much you don't read, that's going to cause you problems for the entire time you play I think
02:20 <Sn0uu> :p
02:25 <Avatar> you don't have to read a lot if you're willing to forego flexibility
02:39 <Sn0uu> well when you said "do you mean books"
02:44 <Sn0uu> yeah, for the most part
02:51 <Avatar> I don't read books either
04:04 <Avatar> just get a general idea of what the book looks like and know where to look stuff up when you need it
04:19 <Avatar> get an idea of how attacks of opportunity work, and movement, and readying an action and delaying
04:29 <Ballig> Avatar is a skimmer
04:37 <Avatar> yeah I am an expert on this
04:49 <Sn0uu> :p
04:56 <Avatar> know what kinds of things you can do with what kinds of actions
04:57 <Ballig> it does get him into trouble
04:57 <Ballig> :p
05:24 <Avatar> eventually you do want to read more about it
05:41 <Avatar> it gets to the point where you knuckle down and have a good read of it because you know it's relevant
06:47 <Ballig> I think I read most of the D&D third edition core rulebook when I first started playing
07:02 <Ballig> and I read a lot of the Shadowrun book when I was going to play that
07:29 <Ballig> but after that initial read, even when upgrading to 3.5e and then Pathfinder RPG (because they're so similar), I just read what I need to read for what I'm doing at that moment
07:37 <Ballig> as long as you know where to find the information you need, you should be fine
07:48 <Avatar> I got given my char sheet the first time I played
08:10 <Avatar> I got to choose the spells I wanted after looking at the spell list
08:21 <Sn0uu> yeah
08:22 <Avatar> quite a departure from the 8 spells per level in ultima
08:28 <Sn0uu> thats kinda what i did in Exalted
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08:37 <Brunius_> 8/level, jeez
08:39 <Sn0uu> they kinda explained abilities, asked what i wanted
08:57 <Sn0uu> and basically made me a character and let me pick a couple things
09:27 <Sn0uu> and then my pathfinder experience is "copy and paste someone else's [half] sheet and fill in your own stuff'
11:49 <Avatar> is that what you want here
12:00 <Sn0uu> ?
12:16 <Sn0uu> oh
12:22 <Sn0uu> not really, but partly
12:31 <Sn0uu> i think i'll be ok now
13:14 <Avatar> if you do as much as you can, upload it and I'll take a look at it
13:41 <Sn0uu> ... can you just bookmark the spreadsheet? I wouldn't be able to upload it
13:49 <Sn0uu> its not text
14:00 <Avatar> create a text file with a link to it and upload that
14:47 <Sn0uu> aha! good idea! :)
14:51 <Sn0uu> i like it
17:14 <Ballig> btw, I changed your character's name on the website to "Snow"
17:14 <Ballig> :p
17:30 <Sn0uu> what website?
17:35 <Ballig> my website
17:59 <Ballig> when you go to upload your character sheet, the character will show up as Snow
18:00 <Sn0uu> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/index.php5 ??
18:04 <Ballig> yeah
18:07 <Sn0uu> ok thats fine lol
18:13 <Sn0uu> thats ur site eh? cool
18:27 <Sn0uu> do you have a way to encorporate a forum? lol not that you'd want to
20:52 <BoomerET> Yea, FGII Con is this weekend!
21:01 <BoomerET> Infrno Con 7 is next weekend
21:48 <Avatar> it'd be good if people would use it
24:19 <Sn0uu> hmmmm 
24:43 <Sn0uu> there would be the issue of different usernames/passwords
24:49 <Sn0uu> unless...
29:19 <Mekkis> it's not hard to put a forum up
29:23 <Mekkis> but I doubt it's worth it
29:37 <Brunius_> Yeah
29:54 <Brunius_> Most forums I see with a chat function just end up being mostly chatting, with very little forum usage
29:54 <Sn0uu> i personally hate it when you have to regrister on a site, and then regrister again if you want on the forums
30:07 <Sn0uu> This one wouldn't have chat
30:17 <Brunius_> This would be the chat function
30:24 <Sn0uu> exactly
30:31 <Sn0uu> http://pfrpgau.forumatic.com/
30:43 <Mekkis> Paizo's site uses the same username you use to register your character as the username you use on their forums
31:00 <Sn0uu> thats awesome :p
31:25 <Sn0uu> i know how it's done, and for Ballig to do it he would need to intall phpbb directly to his site
31:26 <Ballig> I've never put up a forum because I don't think it would be used
31:46 <Sn0uu> which... would make more sence anyway, since he'd get all the premium functions for free... i belive
32:07 <Sn0uu> wow, sp
33:10 <Avatar> I reckon mort would use it
33:19 <Avatar> oh god would she use it
33:21 <Ballig> she'd be the only one! ha ha!
33:26 <Avatar> ha ha!
33:37 <Ballig> it'd be a forum full of mort speculating on synthesists and maguses
33:42 <Ballig> and probably maguses fighting synthesists
34:07 <Avatar> and which build can do the most damage and how to hide behind your party the best
34:26 <Mekkis> isn't there already stuff like that on other places
34:27 <Ballig> ha
34:32 <Ballig> yeah
34:45 <Ballig> mort would still re-post it on a forum if we had one
34:53 <Sn0uu> :p
35:17 <yogsolidis> HOLA
35:20 <yogsolidis> oops
35:21 <yogsolidis> caps
37:30 <Ballig> moi
37:46 <yogsolidis> You?
37:49 <yogsolidis> Me
37:59 <yogsolidis> Or was that a kissing sound you were going for
38:02 <Ballig> I was aiming for the Finnish word for "hi"
38:08 <yogsolidis> Hai.
38:09 <Sn0uu> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=464
38:57 <Sn0uu> if i add html code to my .txt, will that work to turn that into a hyperlink?
39:29 <Avatar> oblivion is $5 in steam if any of you like it
39:40 <Ballig> Sn0uu: use the bbcodes
39:46 <yogsolidis> Really good game.
39:47 <Sn0uu> ok sweet thx
40:00 <Avatar> I didn't like it, but there are mods being built for it that I want to play
40:02 <Ballig> and make sure you check the box on the upload sheet that says you're using bbcodes
40:26 <Sn0uu> ummm, what would be the BBcode for a link? >_<
40:31 <Sn0uu> ok thx
40:50 <Ballig> click "bb-like codes" hyperlink on the page when you go to upload it
40:52 <Sn0uu> i prefer the fallout 3+ series myself :)
40:53 <Ballig> it'll tell you what they are
41:05 <Sn0uu> no no, i mean what is the actual code for a hyerlink
41:15 <Sn0uu> since im putting it into a txt doc
41:21 <Sn0uu> i know html, not bb
41:25 <Ballig> yeah I kn ow what you mean
41:28 <Sn0uu> kk
41:33 <Ballig> click the hyperlink I told you to click :p
41:35 <Sn0uu> ok
41:39 <Sn0uu> >_<
41:43 <Sn0uu> hurray for reading
42:01 <Sn0uu> ...low timeout?
42:08 <Ballig> shouldn't be
42:12 <Sn0uu> oh... rawr
42:28 <yogsolidis> didn't like it bdecause of the graphics?
42:30 <yogsolidis> My wife has the same problem
42:31 <Mekkis> do you think the 4/6/9 ACs for light/medium/heavy armours is balanced?
43:43 <Ballig> should be 3/6/9 !
43:57 <Mekkis> and mage armour should also be +3?
44:23 <yogsolidis> It's balanced. Just like everything else in the game. -snicker-
44:33 <Ballig> mage armour is a resource, I see no issue with it being slightly better than mundane armour
44:37 <Ballig> especially because you can't enchant it
44:42 <Mekkis> Avatar, you've played a session or two with Balah, right?
45:46 <spider21b> hi
46:21 <BoomerET> Hello!
50:05 <Sn0uu> ok
50:10 <Sn0uu> now it worked lol
50:20 <Sn0uu> i had to take the S out of the https for some reason
51:08 <Sn0uu> !findchar Snow
51:08 <diebot> Sn0uu, Character: Snow, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
51:18 <Sn0uu> ?
51:33 <Sn0uu> didn't you say you changed it to "Snow"
51:34 <Ballig> diebot doesn't update immediately
51:38 <Sn0uu> oh
51:42 <Ballig> [3:30:59 PM] <@Ballig> !findchar snow
51:43 <Ballig> [3:31:00 PM] <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=464
51:52 <Sn0uu> lowercase?
52:14 <Ballig> [4:52:14 PM] <@Ballig> !findchar Snow
52:15 <Ballig> [4:52:14 PM] <dicebot> Ballig, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=464
52:22 <Ballig> different bot
52:35 <Ballig> but the command is disabled in here to avoid double-up
53:52 <Sn0uu> ok...
54:14 <Sn0uu> how can i get one?
54:48 <Mekkis> !findchar snow
54:52 <Ballig> get what
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55:24 <Mekkis> !findchar snow
55:26 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: snow, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
55:28 <Mekkis> !findchar Snow
55:30 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Snow, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
56:43 <Mekkis> !findchar snow
56:44 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: snow, number: 464( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=464 )
59:10 <Sn0uu> yes, it works lol
59:14 <Sn0uu> a bot
00:52 <Ballig> you can usually download them or make them, or a combination of the two
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22:03 <spider21b> whats going on bommer?
22:08 <spider21b> boomer my bad
24:22 <BoomerET> Working hard
24:28 <BoomerET> Doing lots of copy/pasting
24:28 <Sn0uu> well, goodnight
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24:31 <Ballig> tata
24:39 <BoomerET> Yes, a lot of my job entails copy/pasting
24:53 <BoomerET> You wouldn't think it would pay much, but you're be surprised.
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33:06 <Sn0uu> 1 pm till when?
33:19 <Ballig> usually up to 6 hours from the start
33:20 <Sn0uu> 1 pm till when?
33:35 <Sn0uu> 6 hrs? ... ok
33:40 <Ballig> you're in Christmas Island, right?
33:48 <Sn0uu> no
33:54 <Sn0uu> EST
34:07 <Ballig> ahh
34:10 <Ballig> so you've translated the time?
34:31 <Sn0uu> that's only 6 to 7 hrs sleep :( night
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34:40 <Sn0uu> no, it says 1
34:48 <Sn0uu> its 11-5 pm my time
34:55 <Ballig> okay
35:03 <Ballig> the game starts in almost 24 hours
35:14 <Ballig> just under 20 hours
35:20 <Sn0uu> so maybe yes if that's what u were sayin
35:30 <Sn0uu> urs or avatars?
35:43 <Ballig> the one tomorrow, if that's what you're talking about
35:48 <Ballig> just go to the website and change your timezone
35:52 <Ballig> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/user.php5
36:18 <Sn0uu> but...
36:22 <Sn0uu> its...
36:31 <Sn0uu> liie 10 hrs
36:38 <Sn0uu> ngiht
36:41 <Ballig> okay
37:49 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
37:57 <Avatar> I don't know when I can reschedule that game because my plans are completely up in the air
38:12 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS:Sun 22nd 1pm (tier 1-5,Mekkis) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
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30:16 <Brunius> Huh, there's reports that fatpacks give out 3x as many rares now...
30:19 <Brunius> Something must be off
30:51 <Steven> sounds like somebody got a good fat pack w/ a decent amount of foils
30:52 <yogsolidis> Uh...that'd be sweet.
31:04 <yogsolidis> Drive the cost of rares down
31:05 <yogsolidis> =p
31:06 <Brunius> There's like 7 guys reporting of over 20 cases
31:20 <Brunius> http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/wwq9q/are_m13_super_boosters_common_pulled_17_rares_in/
31:27 <yogsolidis> I shouldn't have bought that M13 booster box. Shoulda bought fat packs..
31:32 <Steven> hmmm, didnt work that way with my fat pack, got one rare/mythic per pack
33:37 <Steven> i did pull a mythic though, which was nice
33:47 <Steven> sadly it was just bolas which i already have
33:56 <Brunius> I got two mythics in my sealed pool at the prerelease
33:59 <yogsolidis> I got a new Lilania from my box
34:03 <yogsolidis> Gonna trade it though....
34:07 <yogsolidis> Doesn't go well for my infect
34:08 <Steven> go brunius
34:31 <Steven> you are aware that infect is on the way out right?
34:37 <yogsolidis> Yes. 3 more months
34:39 <yogsolidis> Or, October
34:41 <yogsolidis> 2
34:49 <yogsolidis> I'm quite aware. o.o
35:21 <Steven> im kinda worried about how vamps are going to go
35:50 <yogsolidis> I'm more into budget decks now.
36:31 <yogsolidis> Doing a liquiametal coating/destroy artifacts at FMN. 10 dollar deck shitting on delver
36:55 <Brunius> heh
37:28 <yogsolidis> Though Delver is pretty much out now I think? With the new enchancements that can't allow you to flashback
45:32 <Mekkis> what is your job titla?
47:32 <Brunius> tbh I have no bloody idea
47:44 <Brunius> My entire experience with delver is hearing about it
13:05 <Mekkis> Steven, I have a question
13:13 <Mekkis> have you run Gods Market yet?
15:53 <Brunius> brb restarting
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23:34 <Steven> ive played it before
24:20 <Avatar> GM it for us
24:29 <Mekkis> I'm running it tomorrow
24:39 <Avatar> oh, woops
24:41 <Mekkis> and regardless, Avatar, haven't you played it?
24:47 <Avatar> nope
25:00 <Mekkis> you sure? I thought you were at my table
25:07 <Avatar> certain
25:09 <Mekkis> oh
25:14 <Avatar> when did you play it
25:18 <Mekkis> conquest
25:23 <Avatar> this year?
25:27 <Mekkis> yeah
25:59 <Avatar> wonders in the weave 1 & 2, haunting of hinojai, immortal conundrum, hall of drunken heroes
26:25 <Avatar> you only die twice and shadow's last stand 2
27:00 <Mekkis> ah
36:04 <Brunius> Are you planning to use skype tomorrow, Mekkis?
36:14 <Mekkis> yeah
37:48 <Brunius> Any idea if it runs under WINE?
39:46 <Mekkis> I just realise that my gamemastery guide has not been opened yet. The pages are still sticking together out of the press.
39:54 <Mekkis> not sure. Why does it matter
40:32 <Mekkis> http://skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/downloading.static
40:41 <Brunius> In that case, it doesn't.
40:44 <Mekkis> that works on my linux box
40:49 <Brunius> I didn't realise there was a native linux box.
40:52 <Brunius> er
40:54 <Mekkis> what distro are you using?
40:54 <Brunius> version
41:15 <Brunius> ubuntu 10.04
41:23 <Mekkis> oh
41:33 <Mekkis> there's an actual package for that
41:38 <Brunius> :O
41:44 <Mekkis> rather than the static build (which Just Works)
41:45 <Brunius> To Synaptic!
41:55 <Mekkis> http://skype.com/intl/en/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
41:56 <Mekkis> to there
42:01 <Mekkis> it's not in the repos
43:11 <Mekkis> hehe
43:21 <Mekkis> prisoners all speak aklo
46:34 <Mekkis> wow... I open the Gamemastery guide and see a NPC with exactly the same classes and feats as a character I'm playing
47:12 <Brunius> It's a conspiracy.
49:40 <Brunius> Which CA were you going to use?
49:49 <Mekkis> farmers are level 2
50:09 <Brunius> You mean I can throw two of them at a level 1 party per day
50:35 <Mekkis> 2.2 build 95
50:44 <Mekkis> they're CR1
50:52 <Brunius> four then
54:42 <Mekkis> Ballig, when compiling DevCA, I encountered one issue: the version.exe program doesn't run
55:25 <Ballig> are you certain it doesn't run, or are you thinking it doesn't run because the version doesn't show in the help dialog
57:09 <Mekkis> it doesn't finish running qmake
57:14 <Mekkis> because it can't run version.exe
57:19 <Mekkis> because it's missing a dll
57:31 <Ballig> does it say what dll
57:41 <Avatar> it's probably because of a certain mean comment in the help dialog
57:44 <Ballig> I don't remember version.exe being complicated
57:47 <Mekkis> mingw10
58:19 <Ballig> is the version source included in the package
58:23 <Ballig> or just the program
59:10 <Ballig> yeah the version source is there, I suggest compiling it and using that exe
59:34 <Mekkis> ah
59:50 <Ballig> when I originally made version.exe the mingw dll was a requirement to run CA (and was included when it was packaged), but at some point the requirement was removed
01:20 <Mekkis> QHttpMultiPart breaks Symbian compatibility :( I'll need to hack around that :S
01:50 <Avatar> does it create android compatibility
01:52 <Ballig> is symbian what nokia phones use
01:56 <Brunius> It is
01:59 <Mekkis> yes
02:04 <Avatar> sweet
02:15 <Ballig> Avatar: the yes was to nokia phones, not to android
02:16 <Mekkis> Avatar, I doubt it: necessitas, however, has been improving
02:19 <Avatar> :(
02:32 <Mekkis> I Actually got an old build of CA to run on an Android last month
02:49 <Avatar> how well
02:55 <Mekkis> it opened
02:58 <Mekkis> without crashing
02:58 <Ballig> to work "well" it requires significant UI re-building
03:14 <Avatar> could you put down a counter on the server and have it show on the phone
03:23 <Mekkis> I didn't try that
03:28 <Mekkis> I don't own an android device
03:29 <Ballig> the UI for a mobile device requires significantly different considerations
03:39 <Mekkis> yes, you can't right click on a mobile
03:46 <Mekkis> makes removing things difficult
03:52 <Ballig> yeah
03:57 <Ballig> you'd want to do something like long-click
04:00 <Avatar> if you can get nethack running on android, you can get anything running
04:11 <Ballig> you also don't want the whole program showing at once
04:21 <Ballig> you'd want separate screens for the toolbox and sidebar
06:16 <Mekkis> Ballig, I'll be at Northbourne Avenue this week
06:46 <Mekkis> is that near you?
07:13 <Ballig> depends on your definition of near
07:27 <Ballig> it's in north Canberra I'm in south
08:25 <Brunius> He means it's about 20 minutes away
09:16 <Mekkis> I have Monday Night free, want to meet up?
10:11 * Brunius misses Mort-
10:14 <Ballig> I start in a new team on Monday so my hours will be unpredictable that day, I can text you Monday if I'm free though
10:53 <Mekkis> sure
10:59 <Mekkis> I'm sure you have my number
11:04 <Mekkis> same way I got yours :S
13:55 <Avatar> how did you get his number
14:03 <Avatar> are you stalking him
14:08 <Avatar> or did you check with brunius
14:10 <Brunius> APNIC, probably.
14:20 <Avatar> right on cue 
14:34 <Brunius> I've got this open the whole time on the second screen man
14:39 <Brunius> Bright red text stands out.
14:40 <Avatar> why
14:52 <Brunius> Why not
14:56 <Brunius> What else would I put here?
15:15 <Avatar> that's creepy man
15:21 <Mekkis> you sure that APNIC has that info
15:51 <Brunius> Hell no
18:33 <Brunius> Avatar, do you have a better suggestion for something to put on this screen?
18:58 <Mekkis> a screen session!
20:14 <Avatar> turn it off 
20:39 <Brunius> You're right, Mekkis - APNIC only directs me to godaddy
20:49 <Brunius> ...
21:13 <Mekkis> APNIC handles IP registrations
22:07 <Brunius> I'm trying to remember where it is that you got Avatar's work info from that time
22:20 <Mekkis> that was APNIC
22:23 <Brunius> And told him to talk to a guy that had been gone for 2 years
26:41 <Mekkis> because Avatar's work was large enough to have its own IP allocation
26:49 <Brunius> Ah
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54:48 <Mekkis> but close Brunius 
54:49 <Mekkis> close
54:59 <Mekkis> so close that I'd like you to keep further discussion to PMs
56:08 <Brunius> I don't think I'd be able to think of anywhere else anyway
00:27 <Steven> alright.... so guess how dumb i am?
01:00 <Steven> in 8 hours im supposed to DM first steps and crypt of the everflame
02:04 <Brunius> at the same time?
04:02 <Ballig> I'd like to see that
04:45 <Steven> hmmm.... i bet i could do it
05:04 <Steven> ide just impose some super strict rules on the players... i dont think people would have a lot of fun
05:21 <Mekkis> I bet they wouldn't
05:27 <Steven> but no we are going to do all three parts of the first steps followed by CotEF
05:33 <Mekkis> in 8 hours?
05:38 <Steven> yeah
05:48 <Steven> well 8 hours is when it starts
05:53 <Steven> i should probably sleep
06:17 <Steven> sams not tired though...  she naps too much imo
06:28 <Steven> i dont nap
06:58 <Steven> course i know as soon as i go lay down, shes gonna crawl into bed and wake me up, and then ill be wide awake
07:02 <Steven> its why im not sleeping
07:11 <Steven> i shouldnt have had any more dr pepper
07:41 <Steven> i feel kinda jittery from all the sugar and caf but im still tired
08:09 <Steven> anyways i bet the first steps+everflame will take till around 8pm
08:27 <Steven> well no, i think everbody has played them both
08:32 <Steven> so they will gungho through them
08:39 <Steven> i bet dont by 6-7pm
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11:36 <Steven> done even
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42:26 <Brunius> Huh.
42:49 <Brunius> Skype claims that Avatar, Mort- and two others tried to call me at 10am on 01/01/70
43:06 <Avatar> probably not that long ago
43:14 <Brunius> Something tells me that a 32-bit time counter has overflowed somewhere
43:16 <Alfwyn> 1970?
43:18 <Alfwyn> yeah
43:22 <Brunius> 1970 probably.
43:35 <Mekkis> what?
43:42 <Mekkis> 1/1/1970 is The Epoch
43:46 <Brunius> Since I'm in GMT+10, if it's counting off GMT then that would be when a 32-bit time counter would start.
43:59 <Mekkis> but it will overflow in 2038
44:06 <Mekkis> so we're not talking 32-bit
44:20 <Brunius> Well, it's where most time counters start
44:32 <Brunius> I'm talking 32-bit because of the commonly touted 2038 problem.
44:46 <Brunius> Why it's suddenly decided that they called me then is beyond me
45:33 <Ballig> it probably knows they called you but is missing the data of when
45:38 <Ballig> so it's just using the epoch as a default
45:50 <Mekkis> 1342874750
46:05 <Mekkis> does that number look somewhat Magical?
46:25 <Brunius> A month?
47:16 <Brunius> Today.
47:25 <Mekkis> yeah
47:32 <Ballig> it's the size of my penis
47:32 <Mekkis> but it doesn't look Magical
47:32 <Ballig> in picometres
47:47 <Brunius> Not really.
48:03 <Brunius> Recent exposure to unix timestamps has made me recognise them more.
48:12 <Brunius> anyway, I'm going to go sleep
48:13 <Brunius> Night yo
48:19 <Mekkis> /usr/share/mime/magic
48:19 <Mekkis> /usr/share/misc/magic
48:34 <Mekkis> you know those files Are on your system, right?
49:45 <Brunius> and what are they opened with?
49:57 <Mekkis> they're text files
50:00 <Brunius> or run with, I guess
50:02 <Mekkis> used with file
51:05 <Brunius> data?
51:12 <Mekkis> what?
51:25 <Brunius> That's what it's returning.
51:31 <Brunius> just the word "data"
51:34 <Mekkis> what? file?
51:38 <Brunius> misc/magic is a link
51:51 <Brunius> mime/magic
51:54 <Alfwyn> the command "file" uses this to determine file types
52:16 <Mekkis> I know
07:32 <Mekkis> Ballig, what's a lossy, fullcolour image fileformat that CA understands
07:39 <Mekkis> that handles transparency
08:26 <Ballig> what lossy image format handles transparency?
08:34 <Ballig> or which, I guess
08:41 <Mekkis> xcf
09:46 <Ballig> I think qt requires a bit of working to use xcf
10:03 <Mekkis> JPEG2000
11:01 <Mekkis> PGF
12:04 <Ballig> think it only supports png, gif, xpm, bmp, jpeg, pbm, pgm, ppm, tiff and xbm
12:07 <Ballig> and not all of those are guaranteed
13:19 <Mekkis> oh
13:23 <Mekkis> gif supports it
13:29 <Mekkis> except it isn't full colour
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