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00:17:45 <Ampera> I just figured out why this maple beef jerky Halcyon sent me tastes so strongly of rye
00:17:51 <Ampera> it's got frickin vegemite in it :P
00:19:04 <coppice> Its Australian. They'd put vegemite in ice cream
00:19:16 <Ampera> here's the thing though
00:19:20 <Ampera> the roo jerky doesn't have it
00:19:33 <Ampera> so if there's a place to put your vegemite, it would be there, not in something that's supposed to taste of maple
00:19:42 <Ampera> it's still good though, but I'd call it bread flavoured jerky :P
00:19:46 <coppice> that must be the export version
00:22:46 <Ampera> The nicest jerky he sent me is afterburner chili, which is nice and sweet, but also makes your mouth feel like the back end of a mid-flight concorde
00:24:47 <coppice> If you really like jerky, ask someone who's passing through Taipei airport to pick you up some. Jerky is a big deal in Taiwan, and the airports have a huge selection
00:25:07 <Ampera> One thing I really notice about this jerky is that it's not as sweet as US jerky, and much drier
00:25:39 <Ampera> in the US our jerky is made for taste, so it's often loaded with salt and sugar, but normally more basic spices. It's also softer, with high end variants being /really/ soft
00:26:43 <coppice> in Asia you'll find sweet, sticky and sweet, non-sweet, super dry, a kind of sticky spongy sort, a version so dried the fibres all separate into what they refer to as pork or beef floss
00:27:28 <Ampera> Actually I have had asian jerky, but asia tends to have more variety in meat
00:28:20 <Ampera> most of our jerky is beef, with occasional bacon and turkey, but I've had fish and squid jerkies (or jerkioids) along with tofu (shit) jerky
00:29:19 <coppice> they do make jerky from a variety of meats in Asia, but a large majority is pork. they have many ways of preparing it, though. I forgot the various super spicy ones
00:29:37 <Ampera> as a german I approve the notion of pork jerky
00:30:20 <coppice> what's tofu jerky? Are you referring to https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2010/04/seriously-asian-tofu-skin-red-braised-dried-beancurd-sticks-recipe.html ?
00:30:58 <coppice> That stuff makes some good spicy meals, and some sweet desserts
00:31:01 <Ampera> It's labeled as "tofu cake" and is from the ROC
00:31:38 <Ampera> it tastes like a squashed maraschino cherry dipped in boneless spare rib sauce (like in a US chinese takeout place)
00:31:59 <Ampera> It's not really /dried/, but neither is a lot of our jerky
00:32:34 <Ampera> Out of all of the jerky I've ever had, though, this was by far the best: https://savagejerky.com/products/sriracha-bacon
00:32:38 <coppice> I can't relate to what you are describing
00:33:16 <Ampera> https://www.inspection.gc.ca/about-the-cfia/newsroom/food-recall-warnings/complete-listing/2018-01-10/eng/1515617643271/1515617645952
00:33:17 <Ampera> that
00:33:19 <Ampera> XD
00:33:47 <Ampera> https://66.media.tumblr.com/6993714e1f7c92b3ae746f6ea83dcf93/tumblr_inline_pc4is7x7lg1skw4if_500.jpg
00:33:48 <Ampera> this specifically
00:34:53 <coppice> oh, the fake meat they serve in Buddhist vegetarian restaurants
00:35:07 <Ampera> ehhh, kinda
00:35:17 <Ampera> as I said, it tastes like a squashed maraschino cherry dipped in rib sauce
00:35:49 <coppice> its usually flavoured like rib sauce, but I don't get the cherry part.
00:36:44 <coppice> It does say its dried on the packet. I thought that stuff was made in a similar way to fried tofu
00:37:05 <Ampera> It's a textural and strange sweet thing
00:37:18 <Ampera> it's sort of a light rubbery, but with a sort of plant-like snap when biting into it
00:37:42 <Ampera> Kinda like gum that doesn't chew back or chewing on a softened plastic shopping bag
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05:29:13 <rust_collector> ha ha! mominlaw is installed in a caravan way out in the woods. good times
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06:25:06 * Halcyon paws at Ampera
06:26:46 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon l
06:26:50 <Halcyon> Herro
06:26:55 <Ampera> how do?
06:27:36 <Halcyon> Meh, got to go to work shortly :-( Another day
06:27:39 <Halcyon> How about you?
06:27:44 <Ampera> eh
06:27:46 <Ampera> eh
06:27:48 <Ampera> eh
06:27:50 <Halcyon> Heh
06:27:51 <Halcyon> So same old
06:27:54 <Ampera> idk depression is weird
06:28:14 <Ampera> I'm depressed but I'm not sad, but I'm also sad, but not depressed, but also happy, but not
06:28:21 <Ampera> in other words I'm numb
06:28:58 <Halcyon> *hug*
06:29:31 * T3sl4 makes Ampera comfortably so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrOQC-zEog
06:30:59 <Halcyon> Oh gawd, more vegans "protesting" in supermarkets in NZ
06:31:05 <Halcyon> Just kick the fuckers out, simples
06:31:58 <steve30> On that subject, I might go to the butchers tomorrow
06:32:33 <Halcyon> Ohh shit, Canberra has now legalised Cannabis for personal use
06:32:38 <Halcyon> They are already dumb enough down there
06:32:41 <Halcyon> And can'
06:32:44 <steve30> cool
06:32:47 <Halcyon> t drive for shit
06:33:52 <Halcyon> Anyway, I better go. Stupid work
06:56:14 <rust_collector> where have they legalised meth? Asking for a friend...
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18:37:31 <GCM> Hi. I appear to have lost one of the screw on banana plug adapters from my BM235 multimeter purchased through EEVBlog store. I'm having a hard time finding replacements. Does anyone know where I could look? cheers =-)
18:38:24 <GCM> duet trade posh magic merit inns Gary
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19:24:57 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I could have sworn I've done a video showing an obscure asian PCB package that the 121GW PCB was designed with. Buggered if I can find it. Anyone?
19:25:49 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, steve30, T3sl4
19:43:02 <K> hello
19:43:02 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
19:55:37 <Halcyon> Hey K
19:57:12 <T3sl4> o/
19:57:57 <Halcyon> What's happening T3sl4 ?
19:58:08 <T3sl4> just got up :)
19:58:17 <Halcyon> Sleep in? :P
19:58:31 <K> yay
20:03:56 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
20:05:19 <Halcyon> What's doing?
20:05:53 <Ampera> you might hate work
20:06:14 <Ampera> but you don't have to crash wake up and then be out the door walking for an hour within 30 minutes on 6 hours of sleep
20:07:29 <Halcyon> I don't have to walk for an hour, but I have to drive for at least 1 hour 15 minutes. The rest is also true.
20:14:43 <steve30> hi
20:15:10 <steve30> I've just been to the chemist
20:15:17 <Halcyon> Did you have fun?
20:15:47 <steve30> About as much fun as you can have discussing prescriptions
20:15:55 <Halcyon> Could be worse I suppose
20:16:37 <Halcyon> You could have been discussing anal fissures
20:17:06 <steve30> yeah, fortunately my anal fissure hasn't been too bad recently
20:17:08 <Halcyon> Or your syphilis medication
20:17:13 <Halcyon> :P
20:20:11 <steve30> The chemist says Brexit is going to make obtaining medications difficult
20:20:52 <Halcyon> How so?
20:21:16 <steve30> Because a lot of things are made in other countries and there will be difficulties in importing
20:23:15 <steve30> Halcyon, fancy giving me a leg massage?
20:23:31 <Halcyon> For sure :-)
20:23:58 * steve30 ought to make a physiotherapy appointment
20:27:03 <DogWomble_> i'm almost wondering whether i need to do the same for my shoulders
20:27:09 <DogWomble_> they get very tight very easily
20:28:30 <Ampera> leaving soon be back in an hour
20:28:45 <steve30> get Halcyon to give you a massage :)
20:31:51 <Halcyon> :P
20:36:47 <Halcyon> Hey steve30: https://youtu.be/sIO36VRB-dw?t=48
20:39:01 <steve30> Do you fancy him?
20:39:14 <Halcyon> I thought you might
20:39:32 <Halcyon> But yes
20:55:56 <steve30> Just had a Chinese delivery man come
21:00:29 <Halcyon> To deliver food I hope
21:00:49 <steve30> Delivering a parcel for my Mum
21:01:06 <Halcyon> Ohhh, Chinese as in he was from China, not delivering Chinese food
21:01:14 <steve30> yeah
21:07:10 <K> y not both?
21:22:34 <Halcyon> It could be?
21:27:59 <coppice> steve30: I doubt he brought it all the way from China
21:30:08 <Ampera> I'm back
21:30:14 <Halcyon> YAY! Ampera!
21:31:57 <Ampera> how do Halcyon?
21:33:05 <Halcyon> I'm OK
21:33:06 <Halcyon> Tired
21:33:17 <Halcyon> Have to work tomorrow because I had Monday off this week instead
21:33:31 <Halcyon> Although no bosses in tomorrow! Might actually get some meaningful work done
21:34:08 <Ampera> Halcyon, so I decided to rip a few CDs
21:34:11 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/626578068970012673/IMG_20190925_203343.jpg
21:34:12 <Halcyon> Mmm ?
21:34:17 <Ampera> and put together a machine to do it
21:34:19 <Halcyon> Hah
21:34:22 <Halcyon> Nice
21:34:26 <Halcyon> Old IBM server?
21:34:46 <Ampera> Yes. Dual P4 Xeons, hyperthreaded with PAE (IA-32)
21:34:50 <Halcyon> Nice
21:34:54 <Ampera> only issue is
21:34:57 <Halcyon> Just watch yourself on the mains power :P
21:35:08 <Ampera> I can't find an X driver for the integrated Rage XL that works
21:35:14 <Ampera> (effectively a Mach64 core)
21:35:18 <Halcyon> Hmm
21:35:25 <Halcyon> Shall I send you a video card?
21:35:25 <Ampera> I'm fine the power supplies only max out at 600W each
21:35:34 <Halcyon> I mean't at the switch :P
21:35:35 <Ampera> no, because it either won't work or I have one.
21:35:37 <Halcyon> *meant
21:35:53 <Ampera> yes I know, I've zapped myself once on those switches before when building my 486
21:35:56 <Halcyon> Those little rubber boots which always slid off scare me
21:36:14 <Ampera> lol, boots. The fucking /metal/ is live on the outside of the case
21:36:24 <Halcyon> I built so many AT machines as a kid, I was carefree then
21:36:28 <Halcyon> These days, I shudder
21:36:34 <Halcyon> Wha!?
21:36:38 <Ampera> eh, if I have a heart attack oh well
21:36:41 <Halcyon> What the hell?
21:36:45 <Ampera> yeah, I got zapped on it before
21:36:47 <Ampera> idk why
21:37:01 <Halcyon> T3sl4, why is Ampera's PC care live?
21:37:03 <Halcyon> *case
21:37:06 <Halcyon> Fuck, I can't type
21:37:10 <Ampera> maybe it was just a spark through a boot, but I ain't gonna try it again
21:37:14 <Ampera> the case isn't live
21:37:24 <Ampera> there's a slice of metal on the outside of the switch that is
21:37:33 <Ampera> if the case was live, well it wouldn't be since metal cases are grounded
21:37:33 <Halcyon> Weird
21:37:50 <Ampera> and it would go nuts until something blew up or a breaker tripped
21:37:57 <Ampera> likely blow up
21:38:03 <Halcyon> What's that "Kustom" device in the background?
21:38:08 <Halcyon> Looks like a microwave antenna
21:38:12 <Ampera> stage monitor
21:38:15 <Halcyon> Ahh
21:38:23 <Ampera> I use it for my DAW
21:38:37 <Halcyon> Kustom here make radars for Police cars. Kind of look boxy like that
21:39:25 <Halcyon> So did those IDE cables come in handy?
21:39:48 <Ampera> Yes, I'm using two of them there
21:40:24 <Halcyon> If you need more, let me know, I have seriously a box full
21:40:32 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Found it, WinPCB: https://t.co/OfmavM4oDO
21:40:50 <Ampera> Eh, I can probably get some on freecycle too
21:41:12 <Halcyon> I wish we had places like that here
21:41:22 <Halcyon> It's mostly what you can find on ebay or Gumtree
21:41:27 <Halcyon> Everything else gets scrapped
21:41:31 <Ampera> places?
21:41:33 <Ampera> lol
21:41:35 <Ampera> freecycle is a website
21:41:37 <Halcyon> Well, companies
21:41:42 <Ampera> it's not a company either
21:41:48 <Ampera> it's basically craigslist for free things
21:41:53 <Halcyon> Oh right
21:42:07 <Ampera> so you ask people and if they have it and want to give it, boom
21:42:32 <Ampera> some people will offer things on there, which is where I got a huge box of tractor paper, and the 4 channel Promise IDE RAID card that's currently in there
21:42:38 <Halcyon> freecycle.org.au has something to do with Bicycles
21:42:39 <Ampera> which Linux thankfully supports
21:43:02 <Ampera> lol. They actually have a freecycle table at my school, which is a give anything take anything system
21:43:04 <coppice> Ampera: sounds like the kind of forum that would get dominated by sex hookups
21:43:22 <Halcyon> I think that's actual Craigslist isn't it coppice ?
21:43:43 <Ampera> coppice, no that was craigslist, this is mostly, does anyone want a busted old sofa or random peice of furniture? I live five thousand miles out of town and you have to get 4 guys to come in a truck to load it
21:43:52 <coppice> Halcyon: I thought Craigslist was for paid employment. not freebies
21:44:01 <Ampera> coppice, both
21:44:02 <Halcyon> You can list free shit I think
21:44:09 <Halcyon> I don't use it, stange people on there
21:44:15 <Ampera> there are people who have met, dates, married, and had children because of craigslist, but they don't do it anymore
21:44:27 <coppice> I don't think I have ever looked at Craigslist
21:44:36 <Ampera> because they became (from a law change) potentially legally liable for child trafficking that might happen on their site
21:44:45 <K> they don't have children from craigslist anymore?
21:45:06 <Ampera> well sex trafficking in general
21:45:18 <coppice> Ampera: good thing. once you've met, dated, married and had kids you probably should start that all over again
21:45:34 <Ampera> coppice, don't let my dad hear you
21:45:51 <Halcyon> Why would you have kids a second time?
21:46:22 <coppice> will sex trafficking be changed by autonomous driving?
21:46:30 <Halcyon> https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/vintage-computer-infineon-ibm-pc133-twin-notch-sdram-256-meg-ram-memory/303266892391?hash=item469c1d8a67:g:o84AAOSw-xhdW1gm
21:46:36 <Halcyon> Hmmm a single 256MB stick...
21:46:42 <Halcyon> Tempting for $10
21:46:43 <Ampera> Halcyon, beacuse he'll do anything anyone tells him, so if someone he's going out demands kids he'll probably comply
21:46:44 <coppice> Halcyon: when you've seen how bad the first batch turned out
21:47:02 <Ampera> Halcyon, that's a total ripoff
21:47:15 <Ampera> lol
21:47:20 <Halcyon> Most of my SDRAM is 32, 64 or 128MB
21:47:33 <Halcyon> 256MB wasn't hugely common before DDR
21:47:38 <coppice> I probably have some 256MB sticks somewhere
21:47:48 <Ampera> they're a US place, but this company is awesome for old memory: http://www.18004memory.com/
21:47:55 <Ampera> except they mix up their FPM and EDO DRAM all the fucking time
21:48:01 <Halcyon> That's common
21:48:05 <Halcyon> A lot of people do that
21:48:10 <coppice> SDRAM is DDR
21:48:18 <Halcyon> Actually, I wonder if they have ECC RAM for my server...
21:48:33 <Ampera> coppice, I never said it wasn't
21:48:44 <coppice> 256MB SDRAM was common
21:48:49 <Ampera> as I said, US company, so the shipping would be awful
21:49:10 <Halcyon> Ahhh Rambus
21:49:15 <Halcyon> I remember that shit
21:49:32 <Halcyon> I reckon I can count on one hand the number of machines I ever built with RDRAM
21:49:47 <coppice> what we have now is not a world apart from RAMBUS
21:56:23 * Ampera stabs Halcyon with the corner of a Mach64/GX 2MB card w/ +2MB expansion
21:56:44 <Halcyon> Bitch
21:57:14 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
21:57:30 <Halcyon> Tried the ramen yet?
21:57:33 * Ampera stabs him behind the back with the card again while doing so
21:57:38 <Halcyon> Of course
21:57:43 <Ampera> no not yet, still waiting for a day to eat it
21:58:11 <Halcyon> Have it for breakfast
21:58:24 <Ampera> can't today, I have 30 minutes to get up and go
21:58:35 <Ampera> and that time goes by /fast/
22:00:21 <T3sl4> the bitch ramen?
22:02:17 <Ampera> anyways, class is starting
22:02:20 <Ampera> ciao
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23:41:15 <coppice> class has always been with us
23:59:25 <K> and which class would that be?
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