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00:44:05 <cheater> found it... $399... for some reason i couldn't see the price before https://www.crowdsupply.com/envox/eez-h24005/crowdfunding
00:44:35 <cheater> not inexpensive... but also likely worth it
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06:35:07 <Halcyon> Mew Ampera
06:52:22 <damian> pew Ampera
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08:54:54 <Ampera> Halcyon, damian
08:54:55 <Ampera> ye
08:54:59 <Ampera> I was at school
10:19:20 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: US Fed injects $53BN + $75BN cash into the system. Nothing to see here... https://t.co/iSv327LCEd https://t.co/NQesF9Qj7B
10:28:27 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: That's our mate Scott for sure. The panel is the backing panel inside the box? So all the guts are gone? Doesn't make sense if they are just upgrading the panels https://t.co/9fzit8RssS
11:35:17 <cheater> k
11:47:26 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Looks like I just screwed the forum trying to install a mod. #oops
12:00:36 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Have no fear @HostFission is on the case.
12:10:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @HostFission And it took down the main EEVblog website too, so the only common thing is the MySQL database, my money's on that locking up or something.
12:17:48 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: FARK, IIRC I paid $25 at K-Mart for mine back in the 80's https://t.co/Y19mzg9Scx
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14:46:28 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Available until stocks exhausted? You mean they aren't making analog meters any more? https://t.co/EArlLnQD2E
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16:40:45 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @HostFission: @koutsiaris @eevblog We actually have an excellent backup procedure in place, not only are we running a high availability…
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17:59:32 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Mon Dec 17 17:18:40 2018
19:34:18 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
19:34:56 <Halcyon> Hey steve30
19:59:20 <Halcyon>
20:01:06 <T3sl4> Heylcyon
20:01:55 <Halcyon> :)
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20:23:22 <Halcyon> What are you doing up T3sl4 ?
20:23:32 <Halcyon> You and you strange bloody hours
20:23:32 <K> hello
20:23:48 <Halcyon> Hey K, what's happening?
20:23:54 <K> rain.
20:24:01 <K> fuck it with a cactus.
20:24:12 <mrpackethead> well, thought i'd tell you theres been a big service upgrade and new feature at EEVBlog
20:24:19 <mrpackethead> thats whats up
20:24:28 <mrpackethead> EEVblog is moving with the times
20:24:34 <Halcyon> Same here, 2 days its been raining non-stop, will do for the rest of the week
20:24:58 <Halcyon> Hey mrpackethead, yeh I saw Dave finally fixed that two-flags issue
20:25:03 <Halcyon> (He is not a programmer)
20:25:12 <mrpackethead> yeah. and we have a Slack Channel
20:25:22 <mrpackethead> how very 2019
20:25:27 <Halcyon> Indeed
20:25:39 <Halcyon> All the best to it
20:26:01 <mrpackethead> well, you might hate it, but better than getting run over by it
20:26:28 <Halcyon> Well, in Dave's own words: "I don't get it" and "But meh, knock yourself out"
20:26:33 <Halcyon> *thumbs up*
20:26:50 <Halcyon> I don't hate it, how can I hate something I don't use or know?
20:26:54 <T3sl4> Halcyon: slowly, possibly-fixing my Trinitron
20:29:28 <Halcyon> But yeh, enjoy Slack mrpackethead.
20:30:15 <Halcyon> Did you work out what went wrong T3sl4 ?
20:30:22 <Halcyon> And was it tied to the LCD failure?
20:30:39 <mrpackethead> \ vs /
20:30:51 <T3sl4> LCD?
20:31:06 <Halcyon> Didn't you have two things die at the same time?
20:31:11 <K> Trinitron LCD
20:31:15 <K> one of a kind
20:31:20 <T3sl4> :D
20:31:28 <Halcyon> Haha
20:32:00 <T3sl4> two things in the one monitor, or actually four
20:32:07 <T3sl4> but probably other things that i don't know about yet
20:32:21 <Halcyon> Ohh right
20:32:27 <Halcyon> Sorry I thought they were two devices
20:44:22 <T3sl4> oh hey, i've got a picture again
20:44:29 <T3sl4> pincushion is shit, probably the underlying issue
20:45:20 <T3sl4> oh, it popped back
20:49:17 <T3sl4> oh yikes, the convergence is all off
20:49:29 <T3sl4> this will take some adjustment... but, at least it's working again \o/
20:49:51 <Halcyon> YAY!
20:50:00 <Halcyon> What went wrong?
20:50:59 <T3sl4> missed a resistor
20:51:14 <Halcyon> I mean in the first place
20:52:02 <T3sl4> deflection
20:52:06 <T3sl4> horizontal died
20:52:12 <T3sl4> don't know the cause, but the HOT was shorted
20:52:21 <Halcyon> As a result of your power failure?
20:52:25 <T3sl4> seemingly
20:52:41 <Halcyon> Strange, and what was the fix?
20:52:49 <T3sl4> replaced blown components
20:52:56 <Halcyon> Crusty?
20:53:19 <T3sl4> only sign is a black pinhole on the resistor
20:53:39 <Halcyon> Sounds spikey
20:53:47 <T3sl4> the fuse fused, one of those leaded picofuse thingies, looks like a resistor with no bands and "1.6A" written on it
20:54:12 <T3sl4> both transistors died silently, internal short but not enough energy to make them explode
20:54:43 <Halcyon> I ask because I'm interested in CRTs. I don't know much about them.
20:54:50 <steve30> hi Halcyon
20:54:55 <Halcyon> I have a few here which require repairs (different failure mode)
20:54:57 <T3sl4> trinitrons are pretty complicated
20:54:58 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
20:56:12 <Halcyon> I have some old Apple Classics (built in CRT)
20:56:14 <steve30> What is Slack?
20:56:19 <Halcyon> *shrug*
20:56:25 <T3sl4> chat
20:56:45 <steve30> Is it similar to Discord?
20:56:52 <Halcyon> I haven't signed up for an account so I couldn't tell you
20:56:53 <steve30> Not that I really know what Discord is either.
20:57:29 <Halcyon> "Slack is an American cloud-based set of proprietary team collaboration software tools and online services"
20:57:48 <K> we use slack at work
20:57:48 <Halcyon> Does stuff like voice chat, screen sharing, video etc...
20:57:53 <Halcyon> So yeh, basically Discord
20:58:02 <steve30> So cloudy crap then
20:58:08 <Halcyon> Yup
20:58:35 <Halcyon> It looks like Discord for Enterprise basically if I had to describe it
20:58:37 * steve30 called in a bicycle shop earlier
20:58:52 <Halcyon> Oh why? Something wrong with your bike?
20:59:01 <Halcyon> Or does someone cute work there? :P
20:59:19 <steve30> No cute guys in lycra shorts unfortunately :(
20:59:26 <Halcyon> Hah terrible
20:59:35 <steve30> I went in to order some new chainrings.
20:59:56 * Halcyon pretends to know what they are
21:00:02 <steve30> Looks like a slightly tatty/mucky workshop type place which suggests it is trustworthy in my opinion.
21:00:18 * steve30 is always dubious of bike shops
21:00:45 <Halcyon> You're so judgey
21:02:17 <Halcyon> I wish it would stop raining here
21:02:31 <steve30> There's another bike shop in my town which I used to go to from time to time, but last time I went in, they were incredibly reluctant to sell the product I wanted.
21:03:03 <Halcyon> What? Why?
21:03:11 <Halcyon> Was your lycra too revealing?
21:03:36 <steve30> Goodness knows. They're one of those weird shops.
21:04:01 <Halcyon> You seem to have a few of those
21:04:23 <steve30> They did eventually sell it to me, at a higher price than what they'd put on the price tag.
21:04:31 <steve30> I decided I wouldn't bother with them after that
21:04:53 <Halcyon> See, they wouldn't get away with that kind of crap here. That's highly illegal.
21:05:46 <Halcyon> And if there were two or more advertised prices, the lowest of them is what the consumer gets charged
21:05:47 <steve30> Its perfectly acceptable here (legally), but most shops try to avoid doing that because it would damage their reputation
21:06:13 <Halcyon> That's surprising. I would have thought consumer law over there would have been similar to here.
21:06:25 <Halcyon> You try that kind of crap here, you risk quite significant fines
21:06:32 <steve30> They could possibly get done for false advertising
21:07:30 <Halcyon> Write a Google review. That tends to get noticed
21:09:16 <steve30> its one of those places where some customers love it and some hate it
21:09:16 <steve30> https://www.google.com/maps/place/J+E+James+Cycles/@53.438028,-1.351953,17z/data=!4m7!3m6!1s0x48797692b6b37db5:0x1c3bfcb369053c87!8m2!3d53.438028!4d-1.34976!9m1!1b1
21:09:39 <steve30> It was nearly 5 years ago since I last went in, so not really worth google-reviewing now
21:09:49 <Halcyon> Yeh I suppose
21:11:21 <Halcyon> In other news, I'm considering a new PC
21:11:59 <Halcyon> At the moment I'm using a HP ML-350 server as my desktop. It has two physical CPUs and two PSUs. Completely overkill for what I need.
21:12:27 <steve30> Will the new one have a CRT monitor?
21:12:40 <Halcyon> Hah, no. I have a 30" Dell UltraSharp which I'll keep
21:12:54 <Halcyon> I'll eventually upgrade to 4K as I like the extra desktop space
23:16:04 <Ampera> Halcyon, just as a warning for you, HiDPI on Linux has some considerable issues with scaling.
23:16:24 <Ampera> Older window managers like Window Maker cannot do it at all, and more advanced ones like GNOME and KDE can do it, but program support is poor
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