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06:41:11 <Halcyon> Morning Ampera :)
06:44:48 * steve30 curls up on Halcyon's lap
06:45:13 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :-)
06:46:07 <Halcyon> Anyway, better go to work *grumbles*
06:46:15 <Halcyon> Ampera, feel free to call me on Discord in the car
06:47:03 <steve30> aww, i was just getting cosy
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08:17:50 <T3sl4> steve30: https://i.imgur.com/uAg3ThO.jpg you should join their league
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19:40:48 <K> hello
19:49:36 <Halcyon> Howdy
19:51:07 <steve30> hi
19:51:14 <Halcyon> Hey Steve:)
19:51:21 * Halcyon meows loudly at Ampera
20:25:14 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
20:25:18 <Ampera> I got like five minutes
20:25:28 <Halcyon> Off to school soon?
20:26:49 <Ampera> mhm, nice hour long walk
20:27:34 <Halcyon> Think of how slim you will be after a while :)
20:28:12 <Ampera> I'm already slim you fat mc shitbody
20:28:41 <Halcyon> :P
20:28:58 <Halcyon> I'm touching your package
20:29:03 <Ampera> did my images help you out?
20:29:09 <Halcyon> They did, a lot! Thank you so much
20:29:11 <Ampera> as in did you have a chance to extract the archive
20:29:12 <Ampera> lol
20:29:13 <Halcyon> It saved me a lot of work
20:29:27 <Halcyon> Hah yeh, I also added fake EXIF data to the JPEGs and renamed the files
20:29:40 <Ampera> you didn't notice the like 20 file formats in shit nobody's ever heard of?
20:29:49 <Halcyon> I did, I ignored most of them.
20:29:54 <Ampera> lol
20:30:14 <Halcyon> But I will run my own testing to see if our automated tools will pick them up
20:30:19 <Ampera> you wanted data forensics, if someone had stored some child porn in those.... by mistake... nobody would ever know
20:30:41 <Ampera> it's really cool, I was able to convert them all over the place with ffmpeg
20:31:18 <Halcyon> Ampera: True, but 99% of criminals are dumb
20:31:21 <Ampera> anyways, I gotta fuck off, I might be on in about an hour to 90 minutes.
20:31:32 <Halcyon> And the "smart" ones think they their Bitlocker'd drive is enough to keep us out
20:31:37 <Halcyon> Okies
20:32:04 <Ampera> my smarts would be to store things in obscure location with very paltry encryption, but in things like raw file formats to where data is arbitrary enough that you don't know it's an image
20:32:16 <Ampera> and then simply store the size and colour parameters elsewhere
20:32:23 <Ampera> or just use my own custom and randomized format
20:32:25 <Halcyon> Locations don't matter
20:32:31 <Halcyon> But yeh if you were to split data up like that
20:32:34 <Halcyon> It would be harder
20:32:41 <Halcyon> But other things would give it away
20:32:53 <Ampera> you wouldn't expect it to, but if you stuck it as a tar to an arbitrary position on an arbitrary block device, then yeah it would
20:33:01 <Halcyon> True
20:33:21 <Ampera> simply randomize the data all around it, then program tools to mount the tar ro at that offset, and then boom
20:33:32 <Ampera> anyways I do actually have to bugger off, see you later
20:33:36 <Halcyon> Byeeee
20:39:33 * steve30 pets Halcyon
20:39:38 <Halcyon> :-D
20:39:53 <steve30> I'm enjoying a day at home today :)
20:40:33 <Halcyon> What did you do?
20:41:18 <steve30> relaxing
20:41:28 <Halcyon> Just lounged around?
20:41:42 <steve30> yeah, well I'm waiting for some food to cook
20:41:56 <Halcyon> What ya cooking>?
20:43:51 <steve30> smoked haddock fish cake
20:44:11 <Halcyon> Oh nice, I've never had fish cakes but I was talking about them with my neighbour
20:44:14 <Halcyon> I should make them one day
21:26:05 <steve30> there, food is eaten
21:26:08 <steve30> now time for coffee
21:34:33 <Ampera> you around Halcyon?
21:34:57 <Halcyon> Yessum
21:35:08 <Halcyon> That was a quick walk
21:35:21 <Ampera> 2.5mi
21:35:32 <Ampera> about 4km
21:35:54 <Ampera> took me about exactly 50 minutes
21:36:08 <Halcyon> :-)
21:36:56 <steve30> anyone got any spare 17500 Li-Ion cells? :p
21:36:56 <Ampera> Halcyon, I wonder if I could give you a drive image and hide a picture on there so well you couldn't find it.
21:37:05 <Ampera> or perhaps a bunch of pictures
21:37:32 * Ampera throws a molten salt battery at steve30
21:37:42 <Ampera> or perhaps a porn collection....
21:37:51 <Halcyon> I've been recommended these: https://www.samyangfoods.com/eng/brand/spicyRamen.do
21:37:54 <Halcyon> Need to find some
21:38:12 <Halcyon> Ampera, I would enjoy the challenge
21:38:26 <Ampera> I'll get on it.
21:38:36 <Halcyon> Just don't make the image too big.
21:38:41 <Ampera> define too big
21:38:55 <Halcyon> Well I don't fancy downloading 512GB
21:39:01 <Ampera> 40GB?
21:39:04 <Halcyon> Yeh that's fine
21:39:06 <Ampera> depending on compression
21:39:13 <Ampera> I'll see what I come up with
21:39:50 <Halcyon> I used to do CTF's all the time but not so much recently
21:40:11 <Ampera> so I'll hide maybe 20 or so images from my porn collection in a drive image, with an operating system installed.
21:40:28 <Halcyon> Can you make it something that isn't porn ?
21:40:30 <Ampera> with everything on the drive that you would need to, if you knew how it was placed on there, take the images off
21:40:34 <Ampera> fine :(
21:40:37 <Halcyon> Like a photo of Minnu or something
21:40:43 <Ampera> Minou?
21:40:46 <Ampera> I can do some of that.
21:40:47 <Halcyon> That thing
21:40:51 <Halcyon> Of a photo of you, whatever
21:41:31 <Ampera> I actually quite enjoy making these sorts of things
21:41:55 <Halcyon> That's kind of what I'm doing at the moment with the cat pictures, albeit a very basic one for noobs
21:41:56 <Ampera> now that I've gotten better with advanced computing, I could transfer over from my original abstract cipher designs...
21:42:06 <Ampera> I'll make this close to as hard as I can.
21:42:35 <Halcyon> Keep in mind, I'm not a cracker. I don't normally just break encyption directly
21:42:55 <Halcyon> I mean we have computers that do the heavy lifting for us in that respect
21:43:01 <Halcyon> But it's not a manual process
21:43:38 <Ampera> No crypto cracking]
21:43:51 <Ampera> if I do any randomization or cyrptography, you'll have the key somewhere on the drive
21:43:52 <coppice> Halcyon: those noodles are OK, although the level of spiciness seems inconsistent... or perhaps they have varied it over time
21:44:20 <Halcyon> I have never tried this brand before
21:44:28 <Halcyon> Mind you, the guy at work who did is a chilli wuss compared to me
21:44:35 <Halcyon> So challenge accepted
21:45:08 <coppice> most Korean noodles seem pretty much OK, unless you can't stand strong spice and pick the real bum burners
21:46:32 <Halcyon> I really enjoy a lot of chilli and spice
21:46:57 <Halcyon> For example, whenever I order asian food or a vindaloo, I ask them to make it their kind of hot not "westener hot"
21:46:57 <Ampera> I can take spice, I just don't have a good benchmark to how much I can take, because I've never maxed it out before.
21:47:22 <coppice> Some of the spicy noodles they serve in Korea are up to Sichuan or Yunnan levels of spiciness
21:47:39 <Ampera> lol, I should probably do that with my general tso's when I order it, because even at their very spicy setting, it's not that spicy.
21:47:43 <Halcyon> Ampera: You might enjoy it, once you get used to it a bit and really push the boundaries, the pain is quite enjoyable, even to the point where your face tingles
21:48:00 <Ampera> enjoyable pain describes my entire life, Halcyon.
21:48:08 <Halcyon> Ampera: They kind of laugh at me at first, but I ressure them I really mean "make it as hot as you possibly can"
21:48:24 <Halcyon> Half the time it comes out actually spicy, the other half of the time is meh
21:49:00 <Halcyon> It's my one basic test of how good an asian/indian restaurant is. If they can blow my head off, I'll go back
21:49:24 <Ampera> lol
21:49:41 <Ampera> all I know is that when I visit I won't shit right for the first time in my life.
21:51:14 <Halcyon> Oh yes, the next day you'll regret it
21:51:30 <Ampera> I've never gotten proper shits in my life.
21:51:49 <Ampera> No matter how much spicy shit I eat it's never happened, so that means I'm either not doing it right, or my digestive tract is made of steel
21:51:52 <Halcyon> It's not so much the pooping, it's the horrible stabbing pains in your guts. But whilst the pain is like 7-8 out of 10 for a short time, it comes and goes and you feel SOOO much better
21:52:10 <Ampera> I've never had that either
21:52:23 <Halcyon> Then dial up the spice :)
21:52:44 <Ampera> The hottest stuff I eat is Habanero Tabasco
21:53:06 <Halcyon> I rate that about 2-3 out of 10
21:54:47 <Ampera> Anyways, in class now, talk to you later
21:55:48 <coppice> There is a 1.5 litre jar of Sichuan pepper corns in the kitchen, along with similar jars of chilli and other spices. This is part of our commitment to having decently spicy food. :)
21:57:16 <Halcyon> Sichuan pepper is delicious but I compared that more to pepper/hot mustard. It's more piquent than "hot"
21:57:34 <Halcyon> Same as horseradish or wasabi
21:59:14 <coppice> Sichuan pepper isn't really hot. its numbing. the chinese name for it means numbing spice
21:59:49 <coppice> but its a very strong effect that scares most people away form the food
22:01:21 <Halcyon> Some people just can't handle spice, for whatever reason. I live for it
22:01:47 <Halcyon> I never add salt to cooked food, but I almost always add chilli, either powdered, in a sauce or flaked
22:02:00 <Halcyon> Fresh is good in stir fries or soups
22:02:19 <Halcyon> Ampera, I will find a local source of this noodle and include it in your box
22:02:25 <Halcyon> We can both try itr
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