// #eevblog — 2019-09-20
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01:44:35 <DHess_US> Treat the EEPROM as a circular buffer. What's the problem?
01:46:23 <DHess_US> Flash dirves use something like that for their translation tables.
01:46:32 <DHess_US> Or can.
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08:08:45 <rust_collector> hey-o people
10:33:59 <steve30> hi
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12:27:00 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: No videos this week I'm afraid, currently near death with some sort of man-flu.
12:33:28 <Halcyon> Hey steve30, Ampera
12:39:58 <steve30> hi Halcyon
12:40:10 <Halcyon> What's happening?
12:40:33 <steve30> Did I show you my energy monitor project?
12:40:36 <steve30> https://stardot.org.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=17809
12:40:37 <Halcyon> Nope
12:41:15 <Halcyon> Hah that's cool!
12:41:25 <Halcyon> Good use for a Beeb
12:43:12 <steve30> I'm just having a play with it now
12:44:01 <Halcyon> ;-)
12:47:51 * steve30 <3 BASIC
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12:50:09 <Halcyon> Hey ThunderSqueak
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13:05:44 * steve30 pets Halcyon and wanders off for some food
13:06:01 <Halcyon> :-)
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14:12:19 * steve30 cuddles Halcyon
14:57:42 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: LOL They know we are watching https://t.co/rIijwrPNeL
15:07:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: So @Microsoft are holding a Linux conference. Okay... https://t.co/dItXp1T9M9
15:08:50 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @CDisillusion: In the midst of all the outrage, I have quietly made arrangements to donate *my* YouTube verification mark to a local hos…
16:23:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @josephskewes: Gen Z will never know the satisfaction that came with a recently cleaned mouse. https://t.co/8II3mxr7Bg
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18:06:35 * Halcyon cuddles steve30
18:07:15 <steve30> *purr*
18:07:30 <steve30> I just need to ring the doctor to order my repeat prescription
18:07:31 <Halcyon> I'm making dumplings and noodle soup tonight for dinner
18:08:48 <T3sl4> you're a dumpling
18:09:16 <Halcyon> T3sl4, I don't get you Americans
18:09:28 <Halcyon> Why have the same light for the indicator and brake light?
18:09:50 <T3sl4> because we're dumb
18:09:52 <steve30> because they're silly
18:10:01 <Halcyon> It's the most retarded idea
18:10:09 <T3sl4> surely an aussie cunt should be able to appreciate that :)
18:10:16 <Halcyon> :P
18:10:51 <Halcyon> Tom from Hurcules Candy is cute
18:33:03 <Halcyon> Holy crap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZX96_HKa4s
18:33:09 <Halcyon> I didn't think this was a thing!!
18:42:20 <steve30> I've just been sanding paintwork
18:42:29 <Halcyon> What ya painting?
18:43:18 <steve30> doorframe and window sill in mum's bedroom
18:43:28 <Halcyon> You're so handy :-)
18:43:37 <steve30> I'm off out to the coffee shop in a bit
18:43:48 <Halcyon> I had a haircut earlier and had coffee
18:43:51 <Halcyon> I'm buzzing
18:43:52 <Halcyon> :-)
18:44:23 <T3sl4> i had beers earlier, and am buzzing
18:44:43 <Halcyon> Oh I'm on white wine at the moment :p
18:45:10 <steve30> I need a haircut
18:58:01 * Halcyon gets out the pet grooming comb for steve30
19:05:12 <steve30> My BBC's keyboard is playing up. Maybe it needs a rest.
19:05:23 <Halcyon> What's wrong with it?
19:05:47 <steve30> outputting stray keypresses
19:06:02 <Halcyon> Odd, maybe bad contacts?
19:06:19 <steve30> I'll have a look later
19:07:59 <T3sl4> :/
19:09:00 <Halcyon> Ampera, you should get your package on Monday
19:09:10 <Halcyon> USPS just updated the thingy
19:14:09 <steve30> Connections look OK
19:14:56 <Halcyon> What sort of keys does it use?
19:15:06 <Halcyon> Switches or like those carbon/foam type things
19:18:47 <steve30> nah, proper key switches
19:18:55 <Halcyon> Mmm weird
19:19:18 <steve30> Could be a dodgy IC or something. I've had logic ICs fail in BBCs
19:19:31 <Halcyon> Any idea of the failure mode?
19:19:57 <steve30> For bad ICs? Probably just age/heat/etc
19:20:59 <steve30> anyway, i'm off out, bbl
19:21:03 <Halcyon> Cya
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20:03:10 <K> hello
20:05:39 <DogWomble> hi k
20:12:04 <T3sl4> hi tim
20:34:13 <Halcyon> Hey Timmeh
20:34:16 <Halcyon> Long time no see
20:34:23 <Halcyon> You been on night shifts?
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20:39:28 * Halcyon prods DogWomble
20:39:41 <DogWomble> hey ;)
20:39:46 <DogWomble> yeah i've been doing graveywar
20:39:48 <Halcyon> There you are
20:39:56 <DogWomble> yeah, i'm ehere at last :D
20:40:09 <Halcyon> Heh
20:40:44 <DogWomble> at least i have the weekend off :()
20:40:49 <Halcyon> Hooray
20:41:26 <DogWomble> and up it rises?
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22:14:13 <borin> anyone here?
22:15:52 <T3sl4> nope
22:18:29 <borin> ah, my microwave control board is burning resistor. i can not identify the value of it. if any one can help?
22:19:15 <borin> it is located in the switch power supply section.
22:19:34 <T3sl4> maybe a ballpark idea
22:20:49 <borin> here is the pic https://flic.kr/p/2hhEfL2
22:22:19 <T3sl4> yeah, it's right fuckored
22:22:27 <T3sl4> whats the chip?
22:25:20 <borin> viper12a
22:27:46 <T3sl4> what's the backside look like
22:37:35 <borin> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/gRfREtMgS3Cfyjne0T7v?signature=fc1483a49344725400dcb04309609c9dbf0fb44eb36e50a0bdb84d2b677f45f5&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE1Njg5ODQ5MTh9
22:39:01 <borin> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/e3UHhiTBmMKFkGq2HHbg?signature=c1e5f1b09ba1646d2364a710e95efe85fb3752616fc6ec497ff61d010c29306d&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE1Njg5ODUwNjR9
22:42:13 <T3sl4> weird, resistor in parallel with the inductor
22:42:18 <T3sl4> i'm guessing both are toast
22:44:57 <T3sl4> anyway, thing with switchers is, usually a core component dies, like a switch or regulator
22:45:35 <T3sl4> which in turn takes out half a dozen other things, all of which need to be replaced or it won't work (or it will explode and you need to replace everything again)
22:47:03 <borin> :o
22:48:24 <borin> i am not a professional, but i have a basic skill in electronic i only can do some diy.
22:50:11 <T3sl4> if you can't get a replacement board for reasonable cost, it might be easier to figure out what voltage it was supposed to make and just plop in a module
22:50:19 <T3sl4> like a Meanwell brick or whatever
23:00:28 <borin> do you mean just attach new power supply module in to this board?
23:07:25 <borin> anyways thanks you.
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23:09:22 * Halcyon paws as T3sl4
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23:10:14 <Halcyon> Well fuck you then
23:10:28 <Ampera> Halcyon!
23:10:33 <Halcyon> Amps :)
23:10:33 * Ampera fucks Halcyon, then
23:10:43 <Ampera> how do
23:11:27 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
23:11:33 <Ampera> I just woke up
23:11:37 <Ampera> today is meatloaf burger day
23:11:42 <Halcyon> It's past 0900
23:11:43 <Ampera> charcoal grilled with hickory smoke
23:12:01 <Ampera> yeah, I have no school today so I sleep in a tad
23:12:35 <Halcyon> Nice :-)
23:13:06 <Ampera> I'm excited for your package on monday
23:13:19 <Halcyon> \o/
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23:15:09 <T3sl4> buh
23:15:15 <T3sl4> power dropped momentarily
23:15:28 <T3sl4> they're working on the roof, i wonder if they fucked a cable
23:15:32 * Ampera throws a very heavy lead acid UPS at T3sl4
23:15:48 <T3sl4> bitch i'm making one too
23:15:55 <T3sl4> just that it'll be done "eventually"
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23:15:56 <Halcyon> * Halcyon paws as T3sl4
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23:15:57 <Halcyon> <Halcyon> Well fuck you then
23:16:07 * T3sl4 claws back at Halcyon
23:16:12 <Halcyon> That's better
23:16:13 <Halcyon> :-)
23:17:13 <K> clowns
23:17:19 <Ampera> Okay, Halcyon, so Some_Person off AfterNET showed me something incredible
23:17:29 <Halcyon> Mmm?
23:17:35 <Ampera> It's a site called transglobalexpress.co.uk and transglobalexpress.de
23:17:49 <Ampera> they only do shipping to/from Germany and the UK, which is good for me because I have family in germany
23:17:56 <Halcyon> Right
23:18:10 <Ampera> but here's the thing, they offer shipping rates par or less to our cheapest normal option, USPS
23:18:15 <Ampera> but use DHL as the courier
23:18:23 <T3sl4> ew
23:18:31 <Ampera> and this isn't a, throw it on if there's room, wait two weeks
23:18:34 <Ampera> this is their top class service
23:18:55 <Ampera> Some_Person sent a package to his mother from Texas to UK, and it got there, for less than USPS rates, in two days.
23:19:43 <Ampera> This site, for shipping to germany, claims 1 day
23:19:52 <Halcyon> Right, so...
23:19:52 <Ampera> for par to USPS price, and they come and pick it up for free
23:20:01 <Ampera> one fucking day to germany
23:20:01 <T3sl4> Ampera: CompuGlobalHyperMegaNet?
23:20:07 <Halcyon> Hah
23:20:11 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H27rfr59RiE
23:21:23 <Ampera> http://prntscr.com/p8pnro
23:22:03 <Ampera> that's for a 5kg package 30x30x30cm to germany
23:22:28 <Ampera> So I am having the most insane idea to send smoked food to my grandmother over there, because it's so fast it would likely get there snap fast.
23:22:51 <Ampera> like, smoked food, unrefrigerated (or maybe an ice pack), would be fine.
23:23:14 <Ampera> smoked food actually, salted and smoked and cooked actually will last outside the fridge for quite a while (smoking is a preservative)
23:23:34 <T3sl4> interesting bonus for shipping in winter, the truck is refrigerated
23:23:46 <T3sl4> wouldn't count on it surviving quite as well in the summer, necessarily
23:23:52 <Ampera> You know
23:23:56 <Ampera> the plane wouldn't though
23:23:58 <T3sl4> at least it's not like it's going to cook further
23:23:59 <Ampera> but the truck would
23:24:30 <T3sl4> i forget what freight aircraft do in the cabin, if they're climate controlled
23:24:55 <T3sl4> i might suspect they'd want to save on that, but wouldn't think they'd be able to quite skimp on cabin pressurization
23:24:56 <Ampera> Well considering planes on the outside reach fuck it's COLD below outside
23:25:39 <Ampera> 35000 ft, -60F
23:26:51 <T3sl4> i wonder if there's any significant savings between keeping it 25C inside versus "just don't let it freeze too many times over"
23:27:31 <Ampera> Maybe they let it get cold, who knows
23:27:42 <Halcyon> I'm guessing my package passed through customs no issues
23:27:47 <Halcyon> It was quite quick
23:27:57 <Ampera> Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't
23:28:08 <Ampera> demand, staffing, time of day, how much you paid
23:28:18 <Ampera> I'm wondering if companies like DHL can fast track customs for their packages
23:28:39 <Ampera> or maybe have their own customs people at their hugs
23:28:40 <Ampera> *hubs
23:28:51 * Halcyon hubs Ampera
23:28:59 <Ampera> :)
23:29:02 <Halcyon> :P
23:29:11 * T3sl4 looks at Halcyon through a tire hub
23:29:18 <Halcyon> *tyre
23:29:32 <T3sl4> hmm
23:29:39 <Halcyon> *smirk*
23:29:40 <T3sl4> not sure which spelling Serj would've used
23:29:50 <Halcyon> Serj ?
23:30:10 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iywaBOMvYLI
23:30:35 <Halcyon> Why am I watching this?
23:31:17 <T3sl4> you don't like eating seeds? even as a pastime activity?
23:31:29 <Halcyon> Jerry eats seeds
23:34:01 * steve30 meows at Halcyon
23:34:46 <Halcyon> I thought you were off to bed Steve?
23:35:04 <Halcyon> Ampera, I have one pack left of those chilli noodles...
23:35:07 <Halcyon> I'm tempted..
23:35:12 <steve30> No, I went out for coffee with a friend, then when I got back I'd had a call from the bike shop, so had to go there.
23:36:32 <Halcyon> Ah
23:37:54 <steve30> I just had yesterday's leftover curry for lunch :)
23:38:02 <Halcyon> I love curry
23:38:31 <Halcyon> Do you guys have many burgers? I have almost perfected a burger sauce recipe
23:38:47 <steve30> I have burgers maybe once per year
23:38:58 <Halcyon> Oh wow
23:38:58 <Halcyon> OK
23:39:17 <Halcyon> Is it just your tastes? Or a UK thing?
23:39:37 <steve30> Just not really into burgers. I only have them when we have a BBQ
23:43:25 <Halcyon> You have to come here some day
23:43:28 <Halcyon> You and Ampera
23:43:32 <Halcyon> I shall cook for you
23:45:25 <Ampera> I'm scared already
23:47:51 <Halcyon> Why?
23:48:20 <Ampera> because you'll be cooking for the pickiest person who ever lived
23:48:42 <Halcyon> I'm actually a very good cook
23:48:48 <Halcyon> I can cater for picky people
23:56:09 <steve30> Bike man just phoned. He said he had to weld his allen key to one of my nuts because it was so stuck.
23:56:10 <steve30> :o
23:56:20 <Halcyon> Wha?
23:56:56 <Halcyon> He can't use a drill and hex bit to loosen it?
23:58:01 <DHess_US> Probably rounded it out.
23:58:12 <Halcyon> Ahh yes
23:58:15 <steve30> ^
23:58:44 <DHess_US> Another thing which sometimes works is to super glue the Allen key into place.
23:58:52 <DHess_US> Then at least heat will release it.
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