// #eevblog — 2019-09-21
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00:01:26 <DHess_US> I usually take an Allen key of the next larger size and grind it down to a fit which I have to pound into place. It ruins the Allen key though.
00:02:38 <DHess_US> So might as well weld it.
00:04:31 <steve30> TBH I don't even know if bike shops typically do welding. I think he will do because he's a framebuilder, but most aren't.
00:09:09 <DHess_US> For quick repairs on steel frames? Sure.
00:09:23 <DHess_US> A cheapo MIG welder is sufficient.
00:09:46 <DHess_US> A bike shop which does repairs would be able to.
00:10:24 * steve30 isn't too familiar with welding
00:10:41 <DHess_US> I bent my seat post once and welded together a new one.
00:12:47 <DHess_US> I used a torch to straighten my kickstand once.
00:27:41 <Halcyon> I would have thought welding a tool into place is a bit extreme
00:27:55 <Halcyon> I mean I've had stuck screws and bolts before
00:28:15 <Halcyon> Nothing a drill or angle grinder hasn't fixed
00:28:32 <Halcyon> Bit of Wd40
00:29:43 <steve30> This was probably the easiest way
00:30:09 <Halcyon> He's the expert I suppose
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00:33:55 <Halcyon> Welcome back
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00:44:38 <DHess_US> Allen keys are cheap enough to sacrafice. And if you do it right, you can just chop the end off of the allen key to restore it anyway.
00:45:35 <DHess_US> Grinding the end off of an allen key is a good way to restore a tight fit anyway after they become worn.
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00:57:43 <K> i've hammered in a torx bit a size over regular gex
00:58:25 <K> did get the bolt out and torx bit didn't mind
00:58:54 <K> prolly wont work if your bolt is 12.9 steel though
01:04:55 <steve30> OK, that's a little bit of the painting done.
03:17:10 <Ampera> Halcyon, a welder would have been a godsend for my car's fused cock stiff license plate screws
03:17:28 <Ampera> WD-40 didn't help jack shit, I ended up just breaking the plastic frame off
03:17:38 <Ampera> or rather I think I simply cut the plate off from the screws
03:17:41 <Ampera> or both
03:23:23 <mattinx> WD40 is not a penetrating oil
03:23:36 <Ampera> WD40 is WD40
03:23:40 <Ampera> it gets used for a load of shit
03:23:49 <Ampera> and is equally okay at most of them
03:24:10 <mattinx> seized bolts are a job for a decent penetrating oil
03:24:36 <Ampera> I didn't have one, but if could have just taken a long steel bar, welded it on good, and lever
03:24:40 <Ampera> I'd have had the thing off in a few minutes
03:24:59 <mattinx> or you've sheered the head off
03:25:02 <mattinx> which is more likely
03:25:23 <Ampera> or that
03:25:29 <Ampera> but since it was securing sheet metal, that would have worked too
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09:09:28 <Halcyon> Mew
09:33:36 <rust_collector> meh, regular old wd40 is much better at lots of things, that it should be. But now wd40 is a brand, with a huge range of all sorts of stuff, so I guess it doesn't matter any more
09:34:43 <rust_collector> Imo, you just buy kroil to get the nice can to show off on your shelf
09:36:57 <rust_collector> Or just do not buy a toyota, because it will cause all your stuff to rust. even plastic
09:37:23 <Halcyon> Or a Subaru
09:37:50 <rust_collector> hmm, ok, I have not had to do much on those, but ok
09:38:13 <Halcyon> Average in every way, very tinny and have electrical issues
09:38:49 <Halcyon> Next time you're driving around, have a look at how many have blown tail lights or headlights.
09:39:03 <rust_collector> usually just engine swaps, or clutches. because subaru ownder do not know how a dipstick works, and the clutch is a bitch to replace, so no one does, before it is nuked
09:39:32 <Halcyon> Speaking of Subaru owners, they largely seem to be driven by absolute fuckwits or old people
09:40:13 <Halcyon> Their manner of driving seem to be worse than most others on the road
09:40:15 <rust_collector> I do think you have your own kind of subaru owners down there, but I see your point
09:40:28 <Halcyon> Probably
09:40:57 <rust_collector> It is interesting to look at people in traffic, and make your own statistics, lol
09:40:58 <Halcyon> Usually when there is a queue of traffic in the "fast lane", it's usually because of some moron in a Forrester driving 10 km/hr under the limit, holding everyone else up
09:41:51 <rust_collector> or any toyota driver, because they also have the speedo set very... optimistic
09:42:10 <Halcyon> Toyota drivers here are mostly asians
09:42:28 <Halcyon> They love their Camry's
09:44:13 <rust_collector> vw drivers have to accellerate until they figure they are not going to get thru the car in front, and slam on the brakes. tesla model s people have no idea of how wide their car is, and go way into the wrong lane around curves. nnissan leaf people are scared of running out of battery always.
09:44:26 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:44:41 <rust_collector> I miss moms old camry. it was an 84. back then they were good
09:44:52 <Halcyon> Audi drivers are like that, although they are driving a VW anyway
09:45:01 <rust_collector> it did 70 bouncing off the limiter
09:45:06 <Halcyon> Heh
09:45:06 <rust_collector> backwards
09:46:17 <rust_collector> for some reason, porsche drivers up here drive like they are 95, except they shift dows 2-3 gears in any tunnel, but do not drive any faster
09:46:26 <Halcyon> Heh
09:47:18 <rust_collector> I do like toyotas from the 80s
09:47:33 <rust_collector> not many left, with much left
09:47:40 <Halcyon> True
09:47:45 <Halcyon> I'm a Volvo driver
09:47:51 <rust_collector> HA HA!
09:47:55 <Halcyon> :P
09:48:04 <rust_collector> oh well
09:48:12 <Halcyon> Although the stigma of being an "old persons car" is mostly gone these days
09:48:29 <Halcyon> It's basically just a better quality Audi
09:48:29 <rust_collector> yeah, now they are like any other chinese car brand
09:48:52 <rust_collector> eeh, no
09:49:04 <rust_collector> better quality... well, maybe
09:49:12 <Halcyon> VW are garbage
09:49:18 <rust_collector> but not very audi
09:49:26 <rust_collector> thanks
09:49:47 <Halcyon> I don't know many VW drivers who haven't had issues with their car
09:49:56 <Halcyon> Usually with the gear box or electics
09:49:58 <Halcyon> electrics
09:51:18 <rust_collector> vw should have a manual box. they tend to work ok. the electrics... well, at least they don't catch fire in the doors as often as mercedes
09:51:30 <Halcyon> True
09:51:45 <rust_collector> and ignore all my random spelling. I am not completely awake
09:51:50 <Halcyon> Although manuals are a dying breed. You can't buy most cars in a manual anymore
09:51:52 <Halcyon> At least here
09:52:55 <rust_collector> they are still pretty common here. I think automatics are good enough now, to work ok, for the more and more limited time a car is going to be on the road
09:54:19 <rust_collector> most cars have xx computers in them anyway, so why not one more for the transmission?
09:55:26 <rust_collector> I do prefer old hydraulic automatics. but they should have a bit more engine to work, I guess
09:56:38 <rust_collector> but I have replaced clutch packs in a gas station parking lot, and it got me home. I would probably not do that on a modern box
09:57:24 <rust_collector> that was an old style chrysler 3 speed. a 904, I think. even if the 727 is similar enough
09:58:17 <rust_collector> very easy to work on
09:58:55 <Halcyon> Auto gearboxes these days are superior to manuals in every way, aside from wanting to play with a knob, I can't think of any justification for buying a manual.
09:59:22 <rust_collector> well. you can have that opinion, if you like....
09:59:37 <Halcyon> Well it's not opinion
09:59:50 <rust_collector> mmmm, yes it is
09:59:54 <Halcyon> Autos in some cases are even more economic in terms of fuel consuption, whilst most are on-par
09:59:59 <Halcyon> How so?
10:00:24 <Halcyon> Name one thing a manual does better than a modern automatic
10:00:32 <rust_collector> it depends on what you do with it. for mr average, driving his average trip to work, yes
10:01:12 <rust_collector> well, doing what you tell it, is one thing a manual does much much better than a modern auto box
10:01:25 <Halcyon> You can dial up any gear you want in an auto
10:01:38 <rust_collector> to a degree, yes
10:01:47 <rust_collector> it usually had some limits
10:01:50 <rust_collector> has
10:01:55 <Halcyon> Well it won't let you select a gear if it means destroying the gearbox
10:02:00 <rust_collector> right
10:02:02 <Halcyon> But I would say that's a good thing
10:02:17 <rust_collector> but they are often very conservative when they set things up
10:02:39 <Halcyon> You can also travel at a walking pace for as long as you want, something you can't do in a manual or dual-clutch auto without breaking things.
10:03:11 <rust_collector> right
10:03:27 <rust_collector> if it has good cooling
10:03:53 <Halcyon> I would say that any decent car maker today has sorted that out
10:03:59 <Halcyon> I'm not talking about your cheap, nasty Chinese cars
10:04:03 <Halcyon> I'm speaking generally
10:04:14 <Halcyon> (Unless you drive a Ford)
10:04:55 <rust_collector> Hmm, I want a cheap nasty car, actually. just a simple transport box, with manual windows, and no seat heaters and crap
10:05:36 <Halcyon> Do they make cars with wind up windows anymore?
10:05:41 <Halcyon> I haven't seen one for many years
10:05:46 <rust_collector> not sure
10:06:46 <rust_collector> I just want a tin can that will go where I tell it to, and back. no options
10:07:08 <Halcyon> I like my comfy car :-)
10:07:09 <rust_collector> ok, I do want a good heater, and electric starter
10:07:31 <Halcyon> Especially with all the safety tech, it's not unusual for me to be driving on icy roads
10:07:46 <rust_collector> mmhmm
10:08:35 <Halcyon> Also, with the amount of absolute morons who seem to have a licence, being able to take evasive action without driving off the road is also good
10:08:53 <rust_collector> eeh, yeah.... and...
10:10:03 <rust_collector> Well, I have a weird view on most things. it is ok.
10:11:18 <Halcyon> :)
10:12:01 <rust_collector> I don't really like driving cars any more. I used to, but no
10:12:32 <rust_collector> it is ok out here in "nowhere" but I have to have a very good reason to drive into the city
10:12:48 <Halcyon> Fair enough
10:13:02 <rust_collector> I can drive a truck anywhere, that is ok.
10:13:09 <Halcyon> Speaking of driving I probably should get ready to go soon, I'm driving from Sydney to Canberra today
10:13:25 <rust_collector> oh. that is a good trip, I think?
10:13:58 <rust_collector> looks like a good long walk, on the world map
10:15:20 <Halcyon> About 3 hours drive
10:15:30 <rust_collector> ok, not bad
10:15:37 <Halcyon> Almost 300 KM
10:16:21 <rust_collector> so, if you drive your volvo on the 250km/h limiter, you could
10:16:24 <rust_collector> yesss
10:16:33 <Halcyon> Hahah
10:16:40 <rust_collector> probably be walking home
10:16:40 <Halcyon> I'd like to keep my licence :P
10:17:06 <rust_collector> ok then
10:17:23 <rust_collector> mr old adult person guy
10:17:27 <Halcyon> Haha
10:18:20 <rust_collector> I should probably go sleep. I have lots to do tomorrow. Have a nice trip etc. etc.
10:18:27 <Halcyon> Thanks
10:18:31 <Halcyon> Have a good night
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