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13:46 <s_gmusic> oh?
13:58 <s_gmusic> ./late >.>
15:20 <Mekkis> yeah
15:42 <Mekkis> Running any scenario with one hour of preparation would be a disservice to
15:42 <Mekkis> those playing it, and as I would be playing the scenario in the previous
15:42 <Mekkis> session, that would be the only prep time I would have.
15:44 <Mekkis>  
15:51 <Mekkis> >>>
16:01 <Mekkis> That is unfortunate, I would have thought that with your memory and ability
16:01 <Mekkis> as a GM that would be sufficient. I will look into alternate arrangements
16:01 <Mekkis> for Sunday afternoon.
16:03 <Mekkis>  
16:09 <Mekkis> I mean, seriously?
16:47 <Mekkis> Avatar and I know first hand what it's like to play under a GM who's had zero prep.
18:20 <Mekkis> I also have no idea how to reply to that
38:46 <Rodrgio> i love you guys
38:49 <Rodrgio> d ndddddddddddddd
38:54 <Rodrgio> i know i know
38:58 <Rodrgio> i know what your thinking
39:11 <Rodrgio> your all saying "kids"  *sigh*
39:14 <Rodrgio> right?
39:15 <Steven> love you too mang
39:22 <Rodrgio> awesome
39:27 <Steven> lets snuggle.
39:33 <Rodrgio> can i join whatever political party u belong to
39:35 <Brunius> Avatar
40:55 <Rodrgio> d n dddddddddddd
40:58 <Rodrgio> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
41:01 <Steven> kinda wanna play/GM part 2 of the destiny of the sands.
41:10 <Steven> sometime soon.
41:46 <s_gmusic> there's a large difference between "preparing something I've never seen before and just played a few minutes ago" and "preparing something I've already played a while back and remember most of the points well enough to not have a major issue"
46:05 <Mekkis> either way, I'd rather my GM had more than an hour to prep it.
57:46 <Avatar> when did I say that
58:29 <Avatar> are you pointing me out because you're talking ashley
01:45 <Avatar> if I end up playing WBG2 this weekend, I'll probably run it next weekend
04:12 <Mekkis> I'm saying that you know first hand what happens
04:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, want to try a multiplayer game of civ?
05:50 <Avatar> neg, I've already got two going
06:07 <Avatar> still have to get to unepic at some point
07:35 <Steven> i dont think you would want to gm for my fetchling
07:46 <Steven> he makes use of the stealth rules
08:16 <Avatar> why would I care about that
08:30 <Steven> i know them.
08:40 <Steven> and enemies dont see him..
08:46 <Avatar> what kind of culture do you have going there man
11:20 <Ballig> stealth rules are quite subjective
11:34 <Steven> i notice a lot of people hate the super stealthy pcs
11:53 <Ballig> because they don't realise that "stealth isn't invisibility"
11:56 <Avatar> why do they hate them
13:08 <Steven> i dunno
13:13 <Steven> i usually like them.
14:41 <Ballig> Avatar: because some GMs think that a really high stealth roll must mean the PC is invisible
14:44 <Ballig> but they aren't
25:01 <Steven> im prepping my character for part 3 of the adventure
26:27 <Steven> since i probably wont be playing it.
27:34 <Steven> avatar have you seen the chronicle sheets for Destiny of the Sands p2?
29:37 <Steven> blah... level 7, +19 stealth
30:42 <Ballig> invisible!
31:09 <Mekkis> fair enough. 
31:13 <Steven> close to it.
31:41 <Ballig> it really isn't
32:00 <Ballig> unless you have a supernatural component to your stealth, you still require good stealth conditions for it to be effective
32:11 <Ballig> low light/shadows, total concealment, etc
32:14 <Steven> hide in plane sight
32:55 <Ballig> that isn't supernatural
33:11 <Steven> actually...
33:13 <Steven> it is.
33:33 <Ballig> well, it's supernatural for an assassin
33:35 <Ballig> the talent isn't, though
34:02 <Steven> its a shadow dancer
34:19 <Steven> its SU
34:48 <Ballig> so that removes the cover/total concealment component
34:50 <Ballig> still need the other stuff
35:00 <Steven> just darkness.
35:03 <Steven> or dimlight
35:17 <Steven> he has a darklight lantern
35:26 <Steven> he just makes dimlight
35:48 <Ballig> a good GM will make sure light is very well considered when running a table with that kind of character
36:48 <Steven> yeah darklight lanterns make the light level drop, its pretty awesome item.
37:28 <Steven> cheap too
43:56 <s_gmusic> !item darklight lantern
43:58 <diebot> s_gmusic, GRIM LANTERN [faint evocation] CL:5 none 5800gp, 2lb
43:58 <diebot> This macabre lantern is composed of a humanoid skull dangling from a short length of chain. A small fragment of soulstuff is trapped inside, burning slowly in a heatless flame. Its flickering light shines from the skull's eye sockets, casting light as a bullseye lantern. On command, the lantern can consume its soulstuff in a sudden blast of heat,
43:58 <diebot> as burning hands. Doing so extinguishes the lantern. Whenever a living creature with at least 1 HD is slain within 30 feet of an empty grim lantern, the lantern absorbs a fragment of that creature's soul, restoring its glow. Source: Ultimate Equipment
44:21 <s_gmusic> dat's not right. :(
44:25 <s_gmusic> sounds cool, though. :D
45:44 <Steven> Darklight Lantern: This lantern does not burn oil, but  instead burns shadowcloy (see below). When shadowcloy  is used as its fuel, this lantern creates a strange, hazy  darkness that decreases the light level for 30 feet around  it by one step (Core Rulebook172). Unlike when shadowcloy  is thrown at a single target, this haze does not decrease  natural darkn
46:07 <Steven> does not decrease  natural darkness to supernatural darkness. One f lask of  shadowcloy fuels a darklight lantern for 1 minute.
46:43 <s_gmusic> yup. when it don't work here, I hit the srd.
46:44 <Steven> its 20g, and the fuel is 25g for a minute
47:17 <s_gmusic> so... use lantern, tie to belt/self, begin stealthing?
50:11 <Steven> its just a non magical way to decrease light level
51:50 <Steven> Darkvision 120ft.
51:55 <Steven> bwahahahaha
52:57 <Steven> i can see a dragon the same time he sees me in darkness.
15:02 <s_gmusic> how'd you extend it?
21:55 <Steven> cheese
22:23 <s_gmusic> oh?
22:39 <Steven> no not realy
22:55 <Steven> im a fetchling with gloom sight who has 2 levels in shadow dancer
23:38 <s_gmusic> ah
23:49 <Steven> at 9th im going to take dark sight to let me see 15ft in magical darkness
24:37 <s_gmusic> would that be the same as a monster's See in Darkness ability?
25:00 <Steven> no that is improved darksight
25:38 <Steven> might get that
25:44 <Steven> but it gives me light blindness
29:51 <Steven> hmmmm
30:07 <Steven> thinking of taking the marshel mythic path
30:35 <Avatar> yo
30:41 <Avatar> 15 13 14 12 7 15
30:45 <Avatar>  how do I rejig that to a better array for a paladin
30:49 <Avatar>  assuming a bump to cha at 4th and without the human +2 bonus on str 
30:55 <Avatar> there is a 13 dex there
31:13 <s_gmusic> so does See In Darkness allow you to see in magical darkness or not?
32:08 <Steven> ill be back in a second gotta take dogs out
32:52 <Steven> see in darkness allows you to see in magical darkness up to a persons normal vision range
34:26 <s_gmusic> mmmk. it seems weird that the ability itself doesn't differentiate between normal and magical
35:34 <Steven> yeah i think im going to go with marshel mythic path... it has some sweet abilities for my character
37:20 <s_gmusic> what're you playing in?
38:16 <Steven> are you a VO?
38:32 <Steven> i know there are a couple of us in this room from time to time.
40:01 <s_gmusic> nope, not a VO, but I also know how to keep my mouth shut (especially since most people don't believe what I tell them)
41:55 <Steven> so whatcha tryin to do with your paladin?
42:05 <Steven> i dont think i should tell ya.
42:10 <Steven> you'll have to wait.
45:34 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, diebot contains magical items, not mundane ones. Also, I'm in the process of moving away from the SRD to Archives of Nethys, but that websites harder to scrape
57:03 <s_gmusic> heh. it's np, steven. I already know it's not part of Siege (which a local rumor started), so I was mainly wondering if it was different from the GenCon boon they gave out previously (which grants 3 rounds of mythic and a single surge).
58:29 <Steven> thats not a rumor, mythic is in siege.
58:45 <Steven> and no its not from that boon
00:17 <s_gmusic> did I misread it, then? I know you fight mythic enemies....
00:48 <Steven> yeah, there are mythic enemies in siege.
00:49 <Steven> im back!
00:54 <Steven> which was epic!
01:04 <Steven> so whatcha doin with your paladin sir?
01:05 <Steven> wish i could have played it already
01:45 <Steven> i've played in 2 specials GM'd 6 of them
02:37 <Steven> why do you need 13 dex?
05:24 <s_gmusic> our VL ran a private game for myself and a few others who are supposed to GM it at a Con we're trying to start locally. We played High Tier to see what things were like, but I'm GM'ing low. We won't get our certs for completing our private game until we run it at the con, that way the result of the con affects the boon we get at the end.
05:30 <Mekkis> !spell crafter's fortune
08:37 <Mekkis> !spell crafter's fortune
08:41 <diebot> Mekkis, CRAFTER'S FORTUNE transmutation ([]) alchemist 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S, F (a tool) Duration: 1 day/level or until discharged (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
08:41 <diebot> The target is struck by inspiration and gains a +5 luck bonus on its next Craft skill check.
14:23 <Avatar> I don't want 13 dex
14:26 <Avatar> I just had a spare point leftover
14:38 <Steven> why dex at all?
15:17 <Avatar> 12 dex to have +1 AC with platemail
16:38 <Avatar> is that not worth it
16:58 <Avatar> bit of reflex bit of initiative as well
17:06 <Avatar> probably 2 or 3 points better spent elsewhere
17:31 <Steven> meh
17:41 <Steven> you get cha to saves
18:27 <Avatar> is 15 cha a good plan, to bump to 16 at 4th
18:48 * Steven shrugs
18:57 <Avatar> do you need cha before 4th
18:57 <Steven> i'd go a little different
19:15 <Steven> but really its not a big deal
19:48 <Avatar> 16 10 14 12 7 16
19:55 <Avatar> er, 15 cha
19:56 <Steven> are you trying to do big fatty damage?
20:05 <Avatar> yeah trying to survive in melee
20:17 <Avatar> that 16 gets bumped to 18 with human
20:53 <Steven> i'd prolly go like 15/10/16/12/7/16
21:01 <Steven> bump str at 4th
21:10 <Steven> thats with mods.
21:12 <Avatar> what am I missing that paladins use cha for
21:29 <Steven> saves, spells, smite bonus to hit.
21:39 <Avatar> smite, divine grace and lay on hands uses
21:49 <Steven> yeah
22:04 <Steven> of course if i was building a paladin... it would be pretty janky.
22:36 <Avatar> I don't think that adds up?
22:45 <Avatar> 7+0+10+2-4+10
23:06 <Avatar> that's 25
23:26 <Avatar> works with a 14 con but not 16
23:29 <Steven> read what i said agin.
23:44 <Avatar> oh
23:57 <Avatar> str is a bit low there
24:06 <Steven> If i were building i'd go with 14/10/16/12/8/18
24:23 <Avatar> shit really
24:42 <Steven> paladins dont really need a high str since they have smite.
25:30 <Steven> ~95% of all BBEG's are Evil
26:39 <Avatar> alright I will run with that
27:41 <Steven> the real benefit of paladin is the divine grace
27:55 <Steven> swift action healing is totally boss mode
28:06 <Avatar> yeah my saves look a lot sexier now than they did 5 minutes ago
28:12 <Steven> and having spells that can keep you from dying is stupid good.
28:29 <Steven> hero's defiance so OP
28:47 <Steven> specially when coupled with Fey Foundling
28:53 <Avatar> !feat hero's defiance
28:54 <diebot> Avatar, HEROIC DEFIANCE []Prereq:  Diehard, Endurance, base Fortitude save +8.  You struggle on when others would fall.
28:55 <diebot> Benefit:  Once per day as an immediate action you can delay the onset of one harmful condition or affliction (such as panicked, paralyzed, stunned, and so on), including permanent and instantaneous conditions. Activating this feat delays the onset of the condition until the end of your next turn, after which time the condition takes its normal
28:55 <diebot> effect. This feat has no effect on hit point damage or ability damage. Source: APG
29:12 <Steven> its a spell
29:16 <Steven> !spell hero's defiance
29:16 <diebot> Steven, HERO'S DEFIANCE conjuration (healing[]) paladin 1 1 immediate action Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save:  SR:Source: APG
29:16 <diebot> The instant before you are reduced to 0 or fewer hit points, you can expend a use of your lay on hands ability to heal yourself as if you had used lay on hands, plus an additional 1d6 hit points. If this healing brings your hit point total above 0 hit points, you do not fall, and may continue to act. If you have no more uses of lay on hands this
29:16 <diebot> spell has no effect.
29:28 <Avatar> holy shit
29:40 <Steven> yeah
30:11 <Avatar> do you know if I'm able to select another race's weapon
30:20 <Avatar> I want to use a horsechopper
30:29 <Steven> yeah, if its legal to buy you can buy it.
30:45 <Steven> my only concern with that is your table doesnt contribute to victory points.
30:47 <Avatar> I've never heard of anyone taking it before, which seems strange because it's a good weapon
30:55 <Avatar> reach, 1d10, x3
31:01 <Steven> yeah its not bad.
31:10 <Steven> Fauchard is better imo.
31:49 <Avatar> obscure book
32:12 <Avatar> I'm banking on a x3 crit
32:14 <Steven> oh wait, horse chopper martial huh
33:23 <s_gmusic> are items in the bot yet?
33:27 <Steven> if you're going for x3 crit, i'd say earthbreaker all the way
34:27 <Avatar> doesn't have reach
34:43 <Avatar> diebot doesn't have items
34:55 <s_gmusic> mmmk.
35:07 <Steven> reach is over rated really.
35:50 <Steven> unless of course you're going with an enlarged all the time plan.
35:53 <Steven> then reach is fantastic
36:22 <Avatar> I really like reach
36:37 <Avatar> not in the small corners of course
36:48 <s_gmusic> opinion on these gloves if there's not a better option for the slot? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/e-g/gloves-first-aid
37:04 <Avatar> there's always a better option
37:18 <Steven> be aware those gloves are a consumable
37:27 <Steven> they eventually become non magical
38:03 <s_gmusic> now that I read over that section, I can see the concern. we did play high tier and with a couple min-maxers, so most combat was trivialized. I'll have to check on that when I meet with the VL next week.
39:10 <Avatar> wish paladins had perform as a class skill
39:26 <Steven> explain.
39:32 <s_gmusic> yeah, which is why I wanted opinions on them. I had the gold to spare on my Gunslinger running Eyes of Ten and figured they'd be a good Emergency Button in case Shit Happens. not sure if they'd be worthwhile for other characters, particularly those in the mid-levels.
39:55 <Avatar> !feat power attack
39:55 <diebot> Avatar, POWER ATTACK [Combat]Prereq:  Str 13, base attack bonus +1.  You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.
39:55 <diebot> Benefit:  You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your
39:55 <diebot> Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an
39:55 <diebot> attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage. Source: Core
40:33 <Steven> gunslinger eh...
41:37 <Steven> price limit
41:50 <s_gmusic> yeah, he's my first character in pathfinder, in society, and to level 12. :3
42:05 <Avatar> my gunslinger was my first to level 12 too
42:33 <Steven> did you ever perhaps pick up weapon finesse?
42:52 <s_gmusic> who?
42:53 <Avatar> fucking hell why did I pick sarenrae
43:10 <Steven> you gmusic
44:00 <s_gmusic> didn't see the need to. single-weapon Pistolero and I already use DEX for to-hit.
45:14 <Avatar> you aren't one of those pistoleros doing stupid damage are you
45:25 <Avatar> weapon cords etc
45:46 <Steven> no he covered that with single weapon pistolero
45:51 <s_gmusic> no. didn't even know about all that until about level 9 or 10. I did have a weapon cord so I wouldn't drop my gun, though
46:43 <Avatar> I miss my archaeologist's pistol :(
47:00 <Avatar> it's a pity 1d8 doesn't cut it at level 7
47:46 <Steven> thats why you take deadly aim.
47:48 <s_gmusic> but by then, you should have DEX to damage and a few other things like Deadly Aimm, right?
48:09 <Avatar> it was just one level of mysterious stranger
48:34 <s_gmusic> I didn't got TWF cord cheese, but I did make sure to take Improved Snap Shot.  :3
49:56 <s_gmusic> next feat I get will be Deft Shootist. So I'll be making AoO within 15ft and not provoking myself. :D
50:34 <Steven> yeah marshel looks a lot better than trickster for my mythic tiers
50:46 <Steven> so, if you're going for utility
50:49 <Steven> for your glove slot
51:05 <Steven> Shadow Falconer’s Glove is a viable option
51:45 <Steven> 1/day disarm/steal at 30ft with a +16
52:24 <Steven> so you could steal a spell component pouch
52:40 <Steven> or take your weapon back from an enemy if they were to disarm you.
54:16 <s_gmusic> cool.
56:54 <Avatar> what kinds of energy can you choose for energy resistance
57:06 <Avatar> is it just fire/acid/cold/lightning
57:38 <s_gmusic> should be able to do Sonic as well
57:55 <Avatar> what about poison
58:34 <Avatar> wondering if energy resistance is worth it for favoured class option
58:56 <Steven> Citadel of Flame tonight,  Mission Failure
59:03 <Avatar> probably not
59:52 <Steven> 6d6 fireball for 29 damage... everyone failed the save.
05:59 <Brunius> Philderbeast are you around?
11:52 <Avatar> is there a trait that makes acrobatics a class skill
13:04 <Steven> damn.... cant take this unversal path ability
13:10 <Steven> cause it would be so fucking broken
15:51 <Steven> oh mans....
16:01 <Steven> so i could take pierce the darkness
16:29 <Steven> expand my darkvision 60ft
16:34 <Steven> 180ft of darkvision
17:48 <Steven> hmmmm
22:53 <s_gmusic> can't take it so you avoid cheese or don't meet prereqs?
26:42 <Steven> it would make the table not fun.
27:34 <Avatar> !item decoy ring
27:35 <diebot> Avatar, DECOY RING [moderate illusion] CL:11 ring 12000gp, 0lb
27:36 <diebot> This ring is a thick loop of mirrorlike metal. Whenever the wearer of this ring takes the withdraw action or becomes helpless (including falling unconscious), it instantly makes her invisible for 3 rounds and creates four illusory duplicates that either run off in opposite directions or perform other plausible actions that could draw enemy
27:36 <diebot> attention away from her. The duplicates last for 3 rounds before disappearing, but they instantly pop out of existence if struck by an attack (AC 10) and can be disbelieved (Will DC 19). Allies of the wearer always know her true location and can freely provide aid or assistance to her. Source: Ultimate Equipment
27:40 <Avatar> oh wait maybe diebot does have items
27:50 <Avatar> !item inheritor's gauntlet
27:50 <diebot> Avatar, IRON COBRA GAUNTLET [moderate transmutation] CL:7 hands 8000gp, 1lb
27:51 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/iron_cobra_gauntlet.html
27:55 <Avatar> some items
28:10 <s_gmusic> see, now you make me want to find something similar for my Zen Archer...
30:05 <s_gmusic> who's a tiefling with both feats of Fiend Sight, resulting in Lowlight, 120 darkvision, and See in Darkness. :3
30:38 <Steven> yeah tieflings get it quicker than fetchlings
31:21 <Steven> and with no drawbacks
31:52 <s_gmusic> yeah. seems odd to me it's not used more often, but it is two feats to do it. some characters are tight on their feat selection.
32:53 <Steven> yeah
33:04 <Steven> luckily i took 5 levels of fighter
33:14 <Avatar> I think I need a greatsword after all
33:24 <Avatar> that's a shame
33:35 <Avatar> unless there's another sword that has reach
34:20 <Steven> i have most of my character's feats taken already
37:13 <s_gmusic> hm... talking about all this, I need to look at my Monk and plan ahead a bit. I could put the Fiend Sight feats on her for RP reasons, but I may have to give something else up that'd be more important.
40:36 <Steven> hmmmmm gloom sight or imp two weap fighting
41:33 <s_gmusic> how advantageous is it to play a vanilla Monk, with no archetype?
42:04 * Steven shrugs
42:14 <Steven> when i make a monk thats not multiclassing i'll let you know
42:56 <s_gmusic> heh
44:16 <Steven> cant decide if i want combat reflexes
44:26 <Steven> i dont really do any damage.
45:38 <Lintor> sup
46:03 <Steven> hey lintor
46:32 <Steven> so lintor, on an attack of 1d4+2 with a crit range of 15-20... worth it to take combat reflexes?
46:33 <Lintor> how things 
46:45 <Steven> what you think
47:05 <Lintor> if you take butterfly and have a decent reach
47:28 <Steven> i dont need reach, i pass crits to my shadow.
48:10 <Steven> disabling someone with str damage is so much more satisfying than killing them with HP damage.
48:21 <Lintor> ya
48:51 <Steven> i'm already rocking 4 attacks a round
50:37 <Lintor> yeah if you have butterfly and can get the AoO the its totally worth it
05:27 <Lintor> man playing with a group using core only
07:36 <s_gmusic> how's that working out?
08:13 <Lintor> making character now
08:24 <Lintor> no idea what deats to take
15:19 <s_gmusic> !item first aid glvoes
15:19 <diebot> s_gmusic, FLASK OF CURSES [moderate conjuration] CL:7 none 0gp, 2lb
15:19 <diebot> This item looks like an ordinary beaker, bottle, container, decanter, flask, or jug. It may contain a liquid, or it may emit smoke. When the flask is first unstoppered, all within 30 feet must make a DC 17 Will save or be cursed, taking a -2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, and skill checks until a remove curse spell is cast upon them.
15:19 <diebot> Source: PFRPG Core
15:30 <s_gmusic> o-0
15:35 <s_gmusic> once again, without the typo
15:42 <s_gmusic> !item first aid gloves
15:42 <diebot> s_gmusic, RUBBLE GLOVES [faint transmutation] CL:5 hands 8000gp, 1lb
15:43 <diebot> These gloves are made of a fine metal mesh. If a creature wearing rubble gloves touches a 5-foot square of stone or earth floor, rubble roils to the surface, making the square difficult terrain. Using the gloves is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The wearer can use the gloves to create up to 20 squares of difficult
15:43 <diebot> terrain per day. Source: Advanced Race Guide
15:53 <s_gmusic> nope, guess not.
47:06 <Brunius> classic chanop
47:15 <Mekkis> spell focus
47:16 <Mekkis> :P
00:55 <Lintor> i went spell focus agument
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12:08 <Mekkis> more to the point, if she did use fireball, it'd be 7d6, not 6d6
15:47 <Avatar> yeah
15:50 <Avatar> well
16:04 <Avatar> tactics were probably more important
23:07 <Mekkis> remember, once the tactics are invalidated, everything is fair game
23:32 <Mekkis> (and she has self-invalidating tactics)
23:50 <Mekkis> once she casts Deeper Darkness, it's unlikely that the rest of her tactics would apply
55:45 <Mekkis> How is the south treating you, Philderbeast?
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27:36 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
27:39 <Steven> i made Jambalaya
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29:28 <Avatar> he's not supposed to use fireball
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35:49 <Rodrgio> i love you guys
35:52 <Rodrgio> d ndddddddddddddd
35:57 <Rodrgio> i know i know
36:01 <Rodrgio> i know what your thinking
36:14 <Rodrgio> your all saying "kids"  *sigh*
36:17 <Rodrgio> right?
36:18 <Steven> love you too mang
36:25 <Rodrgio> awesome
36:30 <Steven> lets snuggle.
36:36 <Rodrgio> can i join whatever political party u belong to
36:38 <Brunius> Avatar
37:58 <Rodrgio> d n dddddddddddd
38:01 <Rodrgio> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
38:04 <Steven> kinda wanna play/GM part 2 of the destiny of the sands.
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38:13 <Steven> sometime soon.
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53:53 <Mekkis> Steven, do you get much consultation from Paizo regarding PFS policy?
54:14 <Steven> i know what thread you talking about, and im not getting involved.
58:48 <Avatar> if I end up playing WBG2 this weekend, I'll probably run it next weekend
58:57 <Mekkis> I just want a yes or a no/
59:17 <Steven> want in one hand
59:34 <Steven> ... do you know the rest of the saying?
59:50 <Avatar> is this about whether you should GM
59:57 <Mekkis> no.
00:11 <Avatar> are you going to run that scenario
00:33 <Mekkis> no
04:38 <Steven> i dont think you would want to gm for my fetchling
04:49 <Steven> he makes use of the stealth rules
05:19 <Avatar> why would I care about that
05:33 <Steven> i know them.
05:43 <Steven> and enemies dont see him..
05:49 <Avatar> what kind of culture do you have going there man
06:42 <Yiroep> Heh....
08:23 <Ballig> stealth rules are quite subjective
08:37 <Steven> i notice a lot of people hate the super stealthy pcs
08:56 <Ballig> because they don't realise that "stealth isn't invisibility"
08:59 <Avatar> why do they hate them
10:12 <Steven> i dunno
10:16 <Steven> i usually like them.
11:44 <Ballig> Avatar: because some GMs think that a really high stealth roll must mean the PC is invisible
11:47 <Ballig> but they aren't
15:05 <Mekkis> more to the point, if she did use fireball, it'd be 7d6, not 6d6
18:43 <Avatar> yeah
18:46 <Avatar> well
19:00 <Avatar> tactics were probably more important
22:04 <Steven> im prepping my character for part 3 of the adventure
23:30 <Steven> since i probably wont be playing it.
24:37 <Steven> avatar have you seen the chronicle sheets for Destiny of the Sands p2?
26:03 <Mekkis> remember, once the tactics are invalidated, everything is fair game
26:29 <Mekkis> (and she has self-invalidating tactics)
26:40 <Steven> blah... level 7, +19 stealth
26:46 <Mekkis> once she casts Deeper Darkness, it's unlikely that the rest of her tactics would apply
27:45 <Ballig> invisible!
28:16 <Steven> close to it.
28:44 <Ballig> it really isn't
29:03 <Ballig> unless you have a supernatural component to your stealth, you still require good stealth conditions for it to be effective
29:14 <Ballig> low light/shadows, total concealment, etc
29:17 <Steven> hide in plane sight
29:58 <Ballig> that isn't supernatural
30:14 <Steven> actually...
30:16 <Steven> it is.
30:36 <Ballig> well, it's supernatural for an assassin
30:38 <Ballig> the talent isn't, though
31:05 <Steven> its a shadow dancer
31:22 <Steven> its SU
31:51 <Ballig> so that removes the cover/total concealment component
31:53 <Ballig> still need the other stuff
32:04 <Steven> just darkness.
32:06 <Steven> or dimlight
32:20 <Steven> he has a darklight lantern
32:29 <Steven> he just makes dimlight
32:51 <Ballig> a good GM will make sure light is very well considered when running a table with that kind of character
33:51 <Steven> yeah darklight lanterns make the light level drop, its pretty awesome item.
34:31 <Steven> cheap too
40:59 <s_gmusic> !item darklight lantern
41:01 <diebot> s_gmusic, GRIM LANTERN [faint evocation] CL:5 none 5800gp, 2lb
41:01 <diebot> This macabre lantern is composed of a humanoid skull dangling from a short length of chain. A small fragment of soulstuff is trapped inside, burning slowly in a heatless flame. Its flickering light shines from the skull's eye sockets, casting light as a bullseye lantern. On command, the lantern can consume its soulstuff in a sudden blast of heat,
41:02 <diebot> as burning hands. Doing so extinguishes the lantern. Whenever a living creature with at least 1 HD is slain within 30 feet of an empty grim lantern, the lantern absorbs a fragment of that creature's soul, restoring its glow. Source: Ultimate Equipment
41:24 <s_gmusic> dat's not right. :(
41:28 <s_gmusic> sounds cool, though. :D
42:47 <Steven> Darklight Lantern: This lantern does not burn oil, but  instead burns shadowcloy (see below). When shadowcloy  is used as its fuel, this lantern creates a strange, hazy  darkness that decreases the light level for 30 feet around  it by one step (Core Rulebook172). Unlike when shadowcloy  is thrown at a single target, this haze does not decrease  natural darkn
43:10 <Steven> does not decrease  natural darkness to supernatural darkness. One f lask of  shadowcloy fuels a darklight lantern for 1 minute.
43:46 <s_gmusic> yup. when it don't work here, I hit the srd.
43:47 <Steven> its 20g, and the fuel is 25g for a minute
44:21 <s_gmusic> so... use lantern, tie to belt/self, begin stealthing?
47:14 <Steven> its just a non magical way to decrease light level
48:53 <Steven> Darkvision 120ft.
48:58 <Steven> bwahahahaha
50:00 <Steven> i can see a dragon the same time he sees me in darkness.
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12:05 <s_gmusic> how'd you extend it?
18:58 <Steven> cheese
19:26 <s_gmusic> oh?
19:42 <Steven> no not realy
19:58 <Steven> im a fetchling with gloom sight who has 2 levels in shadow dancer
20:41 <s_gmusic> ah
20:52 <Steven> at 9th im going to take dark sight to let me see 15ft in magical darkness
21:40 <s_gmusic> would that be the same as a monster's See in Darkness ability?
22:03 <Steven> no that is improved darksight
22:41 <Steven> might get that
22:47 <Steven> but it gives me light blindness
26:54 <Steven> hmmmm
27:10 <Steven> thinking of taking the marshel mythic path
28:16 <s_gmusic> so does See In Darkness allow you to see in magical darkness or not?
29:55 <Steven> see in darkness allows you to see in magical darkness up to a persons normal vision range
31:29 <s_gmusic> mmmk. it seems weird that the ability itself doesn't differentiate between normal and magical
32:37 <Steven> yeah i think im going to go with marshel mythic path... it has some sweet abilities for my character
34:23 <s_gmusic> what're you playing in?
35:19 <Steven> are you a VO?
35:35 <Steven> i know there are a couple of us in this room from time to time.
37:04 <s_gmusic> nope, not a VO, but I also know how to keep my mouth shut (especially since most people don't believe what I tell them)
39:08 <Steven> i dont think i should tell ya.
39:13 <Steven> you'll have to wait.
42:37 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, diebot contains magical items, not mundane ones. Also, I'm in the process of moving away from the SRD to Archives of Nethys, but that websites harder to scrape
54:06 <s_gmusic> heh. it's np, steven. I already know it's not part of Siege (which a local rumor started), so I was mainly wondering if it was different from the GenCon boon they gave out previously (which grants 3 rounds of mythic and a single surge).
55:32 <Steven> thats not a rumor, mythic is in siege.
55:48 <Steven> and no its not from that boon
57:20 <s_gmusic> did I misread it, then? I know you fight mythic enemies....
57:51 <Steven> yeah, there are mythic enemies in siege.
57:57 <Steven> which was epic!
58:08 <Steven> wish i could have played it already
58:48 <Steven> i've played in 2 specials GM'd 6 of them
02:27 <s_gmusic> our VL ran a private game for myself and a few others who are supposed to GM it at a Con we're trying to start locally. We played High Tier to see what things were like, but I'm GM'ing low. We won't get our certs for completing our private game until we run it at the con, that way the result of the con affects the boon we get at the end.
27:48 <Steven> my only concern with that is your table doesnt contribute to victory points.
35:06 <s_gmusic> now that I read over that section, I can see the concern. we did play high tier and with a couple min-maxers, so most combat was trivialized. I'll have to check on that when I meet with the VL next week.
47:36 <Steven> yeah marshel looks a lot better than trickster for my mythic tiers
10:07 <Steven> damn.... cant take this unversal path ability
10:13 <Steven> cause it would be so fucking broken
12:54 <Steven> oh mans....
13:04 <Steven> so i could take pierce the darkness
13:32 <Steven> expand my darkvision 60ft
13:37 <Steven> 180ft of darkvision
14:50 <Steven> hmmmm
19:55 <s_gmusic> can't take it so you avoid cheese or don't meet prereqs?
23:45 <Steven> it would make the table not fun.
25:13 <s_gmusic> see, now you make me want to find something similar for my Zen Archer...
27:07 <s_gmusic> who's a tiefling with both feats of Fiend Sight, resulting in Lowlight, 120 darkvision, and See in Darkness. :3
27:40 <Steven> yeah tieflings get it quicker than fetchlings
28:24 <Steven> and with no drawbacks
28:56 <s_gmusic> yeah. seems odd to me it's not used more often, but it is two feats to do it. some characters are tight on their feat selection.
29:56 <Steven> yeah
30:07 <Steven> luckily i took 5 levels of fighter
31:22 <Steven> i have most of my character's feats taken already
34:15 <s_gmusic> hm... talking about all this, I need to look at my Monk and plan ahead a bit. I could put the Fiend Sight feats on her for RP reasons, but I may have to give something else up that'd be more important.
37:38 <Steven> hmmmmm gloom sight or imp two weap fighting
38:36 <s_gmusic> how advantageous is it to play a vanilla Monk, with no archetype?
39:07 * Steven shrugs
39:16 <Steven> when i make a monk thats not multiclassing i'll let you know
39:59 <s_gmusic> heh
41:19 <Steven> cant decide if i want combat reflexes
41:29 <Steven> i dont really do any damage.
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42:40 <Lintor> sup
43:06 <Steven> hey lintor
43:35 <Steven> so lintor, on an attack of 1d4+2 with a crit range of 15-20... worth it to take combat reflexes?
43:36 <Lintor> how things 
43:47 <Steven> what you think
44:07 <Lintor> if you take butterfly and have a decent reach
44:31 <Steven> i dont need reach, i pass crits to my shadow.
45:13 <Steven> disabling someone with str damage is so much more satisfying than killing them with HP damage.
45:24 <Lintor> ya
45:54 <Steven> i'm already rocking 4 attacks a round
47:39 <Lintor> yeah if you have butterfly and can get the AoO the its totally worth it
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02:30 <Lintor> man playing with a group using core only
04:39 <s_gmusic> how's that working out?
05:16 <Lintor> making character now
05:26 <Lintor> no idea what deats to take
42:22 <Mekkis> well. It seems 
45:33 <Mekkis> now my VC's getting all passive-aggressive on me
44:18 <Mekkis> spell focus
44:19 <Mekkis> :P
57:58 <Lintor> i went spell focus agument
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52:47 <Mekkis> How is the south treating you, Philderbeast?
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30:33 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
30:36 <Steven> i made Jambalaya
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