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// #d&d — 2014-02-13

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01:18:18 <Avatar> quiet day
01:20:10 <Avatar> anyone been looking over rpg superstar?
01:24:58 <Spaceshot> didn't realise that was happening now
01:25:06 <Spaceshot> been spending most of today looking for artists
01:26:01 <Avatar> round 3 chief
01:26:08 <Avatar> didn't you notice the big RPG SUPERSTAR logo
01:26:19 <Spaceshot> nope, don't really pay attention/care for it
01:26:48 <Avatar> you learn a lot from it
01:38:44 <Avatar> Heboric
01:41:37 <Avatar> that was rude
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01:53:07 <Ulzef2> ello
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01:54:46 <Avatar> imposter!
01:55:17 <Spaceshot> the question is, do we need Ulzef the original? this one will probably cost less
01:56:16 <Ulzef> Anyone kn ow when brun is running next?
01:56:26 <Spaceshot> what is brun running again?
01:56:37 <Ulzef> serpent skull
01:57:46 <Spaceshot> supposedly sunday 23rd 12pm
01:57:52 <Spaceshot> helps to look at the message
02:02:26 <Ulzef> true
02:04:29 <Avatar> check the topic yo
02:04:32 <Avatar> did I forget to schedule it
02:05:07 <Spaceshot> says 23rd at 12pm to me
02:38:22 <Avatar> who's in SS?
02:42:39 <Avatar> games scheduled
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03:02:24 <Spaceshot> I'm guessing this is a no, but can a half-elf's Arcane Training be used for alchemist/investigator?
03:02:29 <Spaceshot> Arcane Training: Half-elves occasionally seek tutoring to
03:02:30 <Spaceshot> help them master the magic in their blood. Half-elves with
03:02:30 <Spaceshot> this racial trait have only one favored class, and it must be an
03:02:30 <Spaceshot> arcane spellcasting class. They can use spell trigger and spell
03:02:30 <Spaceshot> completion items for their favored class as if one level higher
03:02:30 <Spaceshot> (or as a 1st-level character if they have no levels in that class).
03:02:32 <Spaceshot> This racial trait replaces the multitalented racial trait.
03:03:42 <Brunius> I believe those two have been classified as non-spellcasters for purposes of prestige classes
03:03:47 <Brunius> I don't see why this would be any different
03:04:36 <Spaceshot> because it's not a prestige class?
03:04:45 <Spaceshot> and being pathfinder likes to be weird with all it's rulings
03:10:58 <Avatar> class has nothing to do with it?
03:11:03 <Avatar> what item do you want to use
03:11:30 <Avatar> spell trigger/spell completion
03:11:34 <Avatar> as long as you're not talking about bombs or something
03:37:23 <Spaceshot> I'd get it because it means at level 3 I can use a level 2 scroll and not fail it, or at level 6 a level 3 scroll
03:37:25 <Spaceshot> and so on
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03:39:27 <Avatar> what
03:39:33 <Avatar> you can use level 2 scrolls at level 3 anyway
03:40:15 <Avatar> oh wait, alchemist
03:40:52 <Avatar> "as if one level higher" has a specific meaning as to what it applies to
03:40:55 <Avatar> I can't remember what it is
03:41:04 <Avatar> check with mekkis
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03:43:31 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuup bitches.
03:45:30 <Avatar> or with steven
03:46:10 <Steven> sup avatar. how ya doin
03:48:43 <Avatar> yo sup
03:48:46 <Avatar> spaceshot needs your help
03:48:54 <Steven> whats he need help with?
03:49:48 <Steven> if it is official support from a VO he should contact Caubo.
03:55:39 <Steven> sooooooooo
03:55:48 <Steven> space what can i help you with? i have things i want to do
03:55:56 <Steven> and dont wanna sit around waiting for what you need help with.
03:56:01 <Avatar> rules question
03:56:12 <Steven> sure, whats the question
03:56:21 <Avatar> <Spaceshot> I'm guessing this is a no, but can a half-elf's Arcane Training be used for alchemist/investigator?
03:56:33 <Avatar> 19:35] <Spaceshot> I'd get it because it means at level 3 I can use a level 2 scroll and not fail it, or at level 6 a level 3 scroll
03:56:33 <Avatar> [19:35] <Spaceshot> and so on
04:01:00 <Steven> so if they choose an arcane spellcasting class
04:01:02 <Spaceshot> sorry was on my laptop
04:01:13 <Spaceshot> steven, can I choose alchemist/investigator
04:02:05 <Steven> for favored class options?
04:02:22 <Spaceshot> for Arcane Training
04:02:34 <Spaceshot> Arcane Training: Half-elves occasionally seek tutoring to
04:02:34 <Spaceshot> help them master the magic in their blood. Half-elves with
04:02:35 <Spaceshot> this racial trait have only one favored class, and it must be an
04:02:35 <Spaceshot> arcane spellcasting class. They can use spell trigger and spell
04:02:35 <Spaceshot> completion items for their favored class as if one level higher
04:02:36 <Spaceshot> (or as a 1st-level character if they have no levels in that class).
04:02:38 <Spaceshot> This racial trait replaces the multitalented racial trait.
04:02:44 <Spaceshot> I'm guessing no
04:02:48 <Spaceshot> but want to make sure
04:04:06 <Steven> so you only get one favored class.
04:05:26 <Spaceshot> yes I know that part
04:05:48 <Steven> so are you trying to select alchemist for arcane training?
04:06:03 <Spaceshot> or investigator, most likely investigator
04:06:08 <Steven> because they are not arcane spellcasters
04:06:10 <Spaceshot> but they both do the same spellcasting type
04:06:28 <Spaceshot> gotcha
04:06:45 <Spaceshot> so do they also auto fail casting from scrolls?
04:06:46 <Steven> i'd look around on the forum
04:07:03 <Spaceshot> well not auto fail, just don't auto succeed
04:07:15 <Steven> see if you can find something that says they are/are-not arcane spellcasters
04:07:22 <Spaceshot> mmm
04:07:45 <Steven> alchemists are a fairly clunkly class.
04:07:47 <Spaceshot> I don't really care about that thing persay, it's just that I'm not going to use multitalented, and was just checking if I could use this over it
04:08:15 <Steven> when it comes to rules interactions with things.
04:08:23 <Spaceshot> they are
04:08:26 <Steven> i suggest just sinking ranks into UMD.
04:08:37 <Steven> negate the problem all together.
04:08:41 <Spaceshot> will do
04:08:57 <Steven> alright, brb, gotta do stuff.
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04:26:52 <s_gmusic> So... got a GM question: For level 1 scenario/modules that are infinitely repeatable for players, do GMs get the credit each time they run it? seems like it would be fair, but I'm still fairly new to PFS GMing and know that the printed rule is "Play once, GM once."
04:27:44 <Spaceshot> yes
04:27:54 <Spaceshot> each we be goblins, or First steps1
04:27:58 <Spaceshot> or the confrontation
04:28:02 <Spaceshot> or whatever else is repeatable
04:28:08 <Spaceshot> you also get GM credit
04:29:04 <s_gmusic> nice. just ran Confirmation for the second time tonight and wasn't sure. of course, I didn't think about it until after the Venture Lieutenant and our main GM left for the night, so couldn't ask them.
04:29:06 <s_gmusic> :\
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05:58:21 <Mekkis> not planning on running it again?
05:58:35 <Avatar> in person, not likely
05:59:09 <Avatar> had no issues, but I'd rather run something else
05:59:21 <Avatar> don't mind running it again online for people who haven't played it
05:59:51 <Mekkis> I might run it online, soon, perhaps. Good to get some practice before the con
05:59:53 <Avatar> I'm thinking of running portal of the sacred rune next if possible
06:00:17 <Avatar> not sure if there is any interest in it
06:00:29 <Avatar> won't run it if there isn't, it's a 7-11 I've already run before
06:00:58 <Mekkis> when I ran it, it was the worst game I ever GMed
06:01:08 <Avatar> I ran all the season 3 plot relevant scenarios earlier on, except for rats of round mountain, storming the diamond gate and portal of the sacred rune
06:01:31 <Avatar> it was pretty good for our crews
06:01:54 <Avatar> I played it with the PSOC guys before I ran it, wasn't pretty
06:02:00 <Avatar> one guy died twice in the scenario
06:02:12 <Mekkis> you weren't GMing for three over-the-top powergamers, and their two disinterested girlfriends.
06:02:18 <Avatar> we brought him back out to get a raise dead so he could keep playing
06:02:20 <Avatar> then he died again
06:02:33 <Avatar> that is a terrible group
06:02:57 <Avatar> why do the girlfriends even bother to show up
06:04:03 <Mekkis> not sure
06:04:15 <Mekkis> because they've been dragged along to every other session
06:04:17 <deruitus> d n dddddd
06:04:30 <deruitus> its not fair
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06:04:51 <deruitus> why does schapelle corby earn 3 million bucks for an interview
06:05:11 <deruitus> id spend 9 years in a bali prison if i was gonna earn that much
06:05:37 <deruitus> stupid australia, it praises criminals
06:06:33 <Mekkis> to reach ~level 9, on slow track
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06:11:29 <silverado> i luv this shit guys
06:11:47 <silverado> please dont mind me for the next few minutes
06:11:57 <silverado> my psychiatrist recommends i do this
06:12:00 <silverado> d n ddddddddddddddd
06:12:03 <silverado> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
06:12:09 <silverado> d n dddddddddddddddddddddddddd deeeeeeeeeee
06:12:12 <silverado> yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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06:12:26 * silverado bangs his head against his table
06:12:29 <silverado> d n ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
06:12:39 <silverado> yo yo partayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy timeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
06:12:55 <Brunius> Hmm
06:13:11 <Brunius> oh shit what
06:13:14 <Brunius> avatar fix it
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06:14:03 <Brunius> when did I get opped
06:14:55 <Brunius> might need to unban bigpond, too
06:15:24 <Avatar> do you not know how to ban people
06:15:29 <Brunius> clicked the wrong button
06:16:08 <Brunius> hit @.host instead of @domain
06:16:17 <ricin> http://imgur.com/rA5b8hi
06:18:26 <Mekkis> what's that?
06:21:02 <Avatar> I'm kind of amazed how persistent he is
06:21:13 <Avatar> like I can pretty persistently ban people
06:21:22 <Avatar> to the point where they generally give up out of boredom or whatever
06:21:32 <Avatar> but that guy just has nothing better to do
06:21:36 <Brunius> Mmm
06:24:51 <Mekkis> Avatar, Step 1: use GIMP to waterbrush over the secret door
06:27:55 <Mekkis> Step 2: fire up Inkscape, and create a 1" grid, resize to correct scaling
06:29:04 <Avatar-> d n dddd
06:29:40 <Brunius|M> No ops
06:30:29 <Avatar> I have ops
06:30:37 <Avatar-> d n dddd
06:30:55 <Avatar-> d n dddd
06:31:14 <Mekkis> Step 3: Resize page to fit content, revealing the correct paper size (in this case, 714x892mm - fits on A0 portrait, but too wide for A1)
06:31:45 <Avatar-> d n dddd
06:31:58 <Avatar-> d n dddd
06:32:04 <Avatar> fuck
06:33:14 <Mekkis> Step 4: get your CPU to make it look better, by using Trace Bitmap aggressively
06:35:50 <Spaceshot> what just happened?
06:41:39 <Avatar> maybe one day I will have time to care about that
06:44:16 <Avatar> so nobody's heard of chess 2?
06:48:02 <Avatar> trying to set up an auto banner
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07:38:27 <Spaceshot-> chess 2?
08:26:10 <Mekkis> http://i.imgur.com/LsvEIAj.png%3F1
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08:46:55 <Mekkis> Avatar, if you want to set up an auto banner, just give dicebot halfops
08:47:34 <Mekkis> or, if you want, I can put it into diebot
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10:31:29 <Acentes> hey everyone
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12:56:22 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 15th 7pm || SS: Sun 23rd 12pm || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
12:56:22 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Feb 11 20:51:40 2014
12:56:22 <***> Buffer Playback...
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14:58:29 <Avatar> http://www.sirlingames.com/products/chess-2-print-and-play
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15:38:19 <Avatar> one of the moves is a "whirlwind attack"
15:39:24 <s_gmusic> should I feel bad that I don't care for the GM Star chronicle sheet? :\
15:39:56 <Avatar> are you a GM
15:40:49 <Avatar> ???
15:44:29 <Avatar> hallo ?
15:44:31 <s_gmusic> I'm 2 tables of credit from my first star
15:44:49 <Avatar> how come you don't care for it
15:45:03 <Avatar> don't you like bonuses to things :(
15:46:07 <s_gmusic> looking at them, the only difference between the 3 I could find were at the second and fifth star level
15:46:23 <Avatar> sounds right
15:46:41 <Avatar> still, bonus at the 1st level
15:49:30 <Avatar> making a skill check as if you were trained is pretty good for being able to use a trained-only skill
15:49:58 <Avatar> and isn't modified by ACP
15:51:07 <Mekkis> gm star chronicle sheet?
15:56:28 <Mekkis> Vaults of the ten offers a massive discount on wands
15:57:06 <Mekkis> sorry
15:57:12 <Mekkis> just read it again
15:57:19 <Mekkis> it's a massive surcharge
15:57:34 <Mekkis> get a 10-charge wand for the price of a 50-charge one
15:59:57 <Avatar> yo
16:25:52 <Avatar> yeah we talked about that last night
16:28:00 <s_gmusic> 'ello
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16:33:34 <s_gmusic> admitted miscalculation and correction: http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lfui&page=4?GM-Rewards#177
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17:28:35 <Mekkis> http://i.imgur.com/LsvEIAj.png%3F1
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19:07:16 <Steven> yo
19:14:57 <Avatar> yo
19:15:20 <Steven> i am not enthused about these encounters people have designed.
19:15:40 <Avatar> yeah they aren't that great are they
19:15:57 <Steven> this entire superstar has been rather shit.
19:15:58 <Avatar> the one with the palm is good
19:16:06 <Avatar> the items were good
19:16:11 <Avatar> some of them at least
19:16:27 <Steven> no, there was like 3 'good' items.
19:16:39 <Steven> and the rest were pretty lackluster
19:16:57 <Avatar> what were your 3
19:19:15 <Steven> I like the palm encounter.
19:19:59 <Avatar> I didn't realise crystal wrote the harrowing
19:20:04 <Avatar> I seriously considered running that
19:22:27 <Steven> ill tell you my 3 items when i get done voting
19:28:59 <Avatar> no the 3 'good' items you think were in
19:29:01 <Avatar> not yours
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19:33:54 <Acentes> hey everyone
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20:04:32 <Steven> lright
20:06:59 <Steven> avatar, i liked the mirror thing, that let you see ethereal creatures.
20:07:03 <Steven> and locate haunts
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21:40:10 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:40:15 <Mekkis> WoT update
21:40:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, you should run one of the encounters for us
21:43:49 <Steven> played me some bonekeep tonight
21:44:27 <Steven> played with this guy's summoner
21:44:31 <Steven> so fucking annoying.
21:46:23 <Steven> his actual character does nothing.
21:46:33 <Steven> except summon his eidolon and act as an HP battery
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23:52:44 <Spaceshot> damn finding artists, or ones you want, are hard