// #d&d — 2014-02-21
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00:30:17 <Avatar> yo
00:30:24 <K3GasaiYuno> hi
00:30:43 <Avatar> nobody knows what took 3 hours
00:30:53 <K3GasaiYuno> *sadface*
00:31:06 <Avatar> I'm sure we'll live
00:31:08 <K3GasaiYuno> wanna play
00:31:13 <K3GasaiYuno> http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/english/
00:31:58 <K3GasaiYuno> http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/english/#/private/uYNk1T4bmo
00:32:01 <K3GasaiYuno> play with me
00:32:55 <K3GasaiYuno> http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/english/#/private/uYNk1T4bmo
00:33:22 <Avatar> what are you spamming
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00:33:28 <K3GasaiYuno> srry
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00:33:49 <Avatar> sorry what
00:34:01 <K3GasaiYuno> spamming its a game
00:34:10 <K3GasaiYuno> was asking if you wanted to play
00:34:23 <Avatar> do you play pathfinder
00:34:30 <K3GasaiYuno> trying to
00:34:34 <K3GasaiYuno> learned
00:34:36 <K3GasaiYuno> learning
00:35:33 <K3GasaiYuno> oh could you check out my character check
00:36:03 <Avatar> character sheet
00:36:03 <K3GasaiYuno> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=919
00:36:27 <Avatar> fighter goes under 'class name' in the class recorder
00:36:32 <Avatar> and you fill out the rest of that row
00:36:39 <Avatar> and hit autofill and calculate
00:37:26 <K3GasaiYuno> saved
00:37:29 <K3GasaiYuno> now check
00:37:36 <K3GasaiYuno> did i do it right
00:37:53 <Avatar> the whole row
00:38:01 <Avatar> your BAB as a fighter is 1
00:38:02 <K3GasaiYuno> what is bab
00:38:05 <Avatar> base attack bonus
00:38:12 <Avatar> check the table in your classes chapter
00:38:14 <K3GasaiYuno> and what about the rest of them
00:38:19 <K3GasaiYuno> oh okay
00:38:22 <Avatar> it has base saves in there too
00:38:29 <Avatar> common newbie error, easy to forget about
00:38:50 <K3GasaiYuno> what is la
00:39:02 <K3GasaiYuno> RACE & LA
00:39:17 <Avatar> your race is human, ignore LA
00:39:35 <Avatar> your gender is up the top, don't list it twice
00:40:00 <Avatar> same with your height
00:40:15 <Avatar> as a fighter you get proficiency with all simple and martial weapons
00:40:27 <K3GasaiYuno> oh okay
00:41:10 <Avatar> you get more hp than 10 I think
00:41:24 <Avatar> fighter gives you 10, but you've got a 14 con, so that's +2 per level
00:43:00 <Avatar> you can't take soaring sprinter unless you have Quests & Campaigns
00:43:21 <K3GasaiYuno> oh
00:43:30 <Avatar> there'll be another trait you can take that gives you +1 instead
00:43:53 <K3GasaiYuno> so about traits
00:44:08 <K3GasaiYuno> it says i can take 3
00:44:16 <K3GasaiYuno> is that right
00:44:48 <Avatar> 2
00:44:53 <Avatar> where does it say 3
00:45:03 <K3GasaiYuno> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
00:45:14 <Avatar> that's a contents page
00:45:27 <K3GasaiYuno> ill find where exactly
00:45:44 <K3GasaiYuno> oh sorry i misread
00:45:49 <K3GasaiYuno> 2 is start
00:46:46 <Avatar> man I had my heart set on taking holy bombs for my alchemist at level 6, after tonight
00:46:53 <Avatar> but they have a pre-req of 8th level :(
00:47:08 <Avatar> I guess I'll have to get wings instead
00:54:50 <K3GasaiYuno> *sadface?*
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01:01:35 <Damalon01> hey all
01:01:41 <Avatar> yo
01:01:49 <Avatar> anyone got an opinion on the cracked orange prism ioun stone
01:02:09 <Avatar> does it give a cantrip/orison if your class normally can't cast spells, or has a spell list without 0 levels
01:03:14 <Damalon01> is that in seekers of secrets?
01:03:24 <Avatar> yeah
01:03:40 <Avatar> Orange prism: Wearer adds one cantrip or orison
01:03:40 <Avatar> (determined when the stone is created) to his list of spells
01:03:40 <Avatar> known or spells prepared. Price: 1,000 gp
01:03:45 <Damalon01> let me have a look
01:04:02 <Avatar> the forums are a bit divided
01:05:30 <Damalon01> hmmm the resonance effect is interesting if you like a little chance
01:05:47 <Avatar> I'm only referring to the cracked effect
01:06:53 <Damalon01> im pretty sure it only adds the extra cantrip if you have cantrips. it says list of spells
01:06:53 <Damalon01> known or spells prepared and that suggests if you dont have a list you cant add it in.
01:08:06 <Damalon01> look it could be cool, and im a big fan of ioun stones but i think youre better off with other choices.
01:08:16 <Damalon01> suchas a cracked pink and green sphere
01:08:51 <Avatar> I need to find a way to get detect magic for my alchemist
01:09:02 <Avatar> who has plenty of spellcraft and no bloody cantrips
01:09:37 <Damalon01> ok. im not sure itll work for an alchemist. does he get cantrips?
01:09:59 <Avatar> no
01:10:02 <Damalon01> does his extracts count? i see what you meant by 'not having level 0s'
01:10:20 <Avatar> alchemists can learn spells from wizard spellbooks
01:10:48 <Damalon01> yeah i know that but they dont have cantrips so im not sure it would work
01:11:05 <Damalon01> what about a wand of detect magic? do you have UMD?
01:11:36 <Avatar> shit UMD
01:12:11 <Damalon01> hehehe you forgot it?
01:12:20 <Avatar> I dumped cha
01:12:27 <Avatar> I think I was going to take something that was going to change that actually
01:12:34 <Avatar> a trait out of PFS primer?
01:12:53 <Damalon01> yeah i think theres a trait but i dont know it
01:13:03 <Avatar> makes UMD use int instead of cha
01:13:23 <Damalon01> uh huh
01:13:50 <Avatar> how much does a 0 level wand cost
01:13:55 <Avatar> 375gp for 50 charges
01:15:34 <Avatar> I kind of want to be able to spam it
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01:16:01 <Avatar> admittedly, that wand might be a cheaper option anyway
01:18:53 <Damalon01> short term its cheaper
01:19:01 <Avatar> 50 charges
01:19:05 <Avatar> usually someone else will be around
01:19:09 <Damalon01> indeed
01:19:27 <Damalon01> if you get thru more than 1 wand ill be surprised
01:19:36 <Damalon01> that why i suggested it
01:19:41 <Avatar> even if I get two wands
01:19:48 <Avatar> I am already level 6, by the time it expires, I should get to 12
01:20:12 <Damalon01> cant you use Prestige to buy the wand?
01:20:19 <Avatar> waste of 2 prestige
01:20:26 <Avatar> you can buy an item "up to 750gp"
01:20:42 <Avatar> but I wouldn't burn it on a 375gp item
01:20:42 <Damalon01> not if you got heaps :P or dont care about ressing ::P
01:20:59 <Avatar> I care about ressing
01:21:01 <Avatar> very much so
01:21:05 <Avatar> I die easily, ask mekkis
01:21:45 <Damalon01> hehehe
01:21:54 <Damalon01> then i guess you care
01:27:37 <Avatar> not sure if I should invest in a clear spindle with my garbage will save
01:28:31 <Avatar> I don't like clear spindles but I feel with my +1 will save I might be pushed to the brink here
01:33:32 <Damalon01> you could learn protection from evil as an extract right? then you have the option of prepping it without having to resort to cheap and nasty power gaming tricks :P
01:33:42 <Avatar> alchemists are arcane
01:33:51 <Avatar> prot from evil is divine
01:34:01 <Damalon01> its arcane too mate
01:35:10 <Damalon01> prot from evil isnt on the alchemist list tho. shame.
01:36:05 <Damalon01> i guess thats something wizard/sorcerer have over the alchemist
01:36:22 <Avatar> er really? arcane?
01:36:27 <Avatar> !spell protection from evil
01:36:38 <diebot> Avatar, PROTECTION FROM EVIL abjuration ([good]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, M/DF Duration: 1 min./level (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no; see textSource: PFRPG Core
01:36:39 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/protection_from_evil.html
01:36:44 <Avatar> there you go
01:41:49 <Damalon01> :)
01:43:26 <Damalon01> i used to play a Conjurer that specialized in summoning devils. i learned quickly that you need magic circle versus evil to control those bastards or they eat you. same goes for dimensional anchor.
01:43:45 <Damalon01> hey Mekkis you there?
01:48:48 <Avatar> you play a conjurer that summons devils?
01:48:54 <Avatar> weren't you getting up mekkis about his diabolist
01:53:26 <Damalon01> nah mate i dont mind if people play diabloists
01:53:39 <Damalon01> also i played a Conjurer back in 3.5
01:53:59 <Avatar> you were getting up mekkis about his diabolist during race for the runecarved key
01:54:06 <Avatar> I distinctly remember the argument, it was quite entertaining
01:56:32 <Damalon01> did i? i dont remember
01:57:11 <Damalon01> was i BSing about him being a Cheliax?
01:57:32 <Damalon01> i vaguely remember him and Ulzef being pro-slavers
01:57:44 <Damalon01> and I was playing my Adoren Gunslinger
01:57:49 <Damalon01> Andoren
01:58:16 <Damalon01> i might have given 'em some shit for that
01:58:47 <Damalon01> but yeah I was 'in-character'
02:01:51 <Avatar> yeah something like that
02:04:14 <Avatar> cloak of the hedge wizard is 2500gp that also gives at will detect magic and a few other things
02:06:11 <Damalon01> tyhats seems ok, but it does take the claok slot. No cloak of resistance for you!
02:07:47 <Avatar> you don't wear it in combat
02:07:50 <Avatar> you put it on when you want to detect
02:08:06 <Avatar> I have never bought a cloak of resist, I might add
02:08:11 <Avatar> garbage item
02:13:10 <Damalon01> really? interesting. im a big believer in saves.
02:13:27 <Mekkis> I'm a big believer in interesting magic items
02:13:36 <Mekkis> rather than ones that just give +x to y
02:18:22 <Damalon01> a fair point
02:18:57 <Damalon01> Hey Mekkis, are we likely to play way of the wicked tonight or tomorrow?
02:20:22 <Mekkis> no. I plan to negotiate a time after SS
02:20:36 <Mekkis> hopefully next week
02:21:37 <Mekkis> check out my city streets map
02:21:43 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/citystreets.pdf
02:22:15 <Damalon01> okey dokey, just wanted to know for my schedule
02:22:21 <Mekkis> no problem
02:43:40 <Avatar> I am playing with perhaps the coolest bard ever
02:46:26 <s_gmusic> seen mention of Lunar Oracle earlier, and I'm toying with a silly build in a homebrew: 1 Lunar Oracle (prophetic armor revelation)/2 Paladin/3 Fighter. CHA to AC, Reflex, CMD, then All Saves. Armor up and start swinging
02:56:04 <goodeeds> hi, Im 40 years old and thinking of going back to uni. I was worried if id fit in though. I mean, would the younger kids be laughing behind my back, calling me mean names or saying things like " that old man wont get a job, whats he doing here"? would they also expct me to know everything coz im older when in fact i dont, coz if i did i woudnt be there in the first place..
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03:15:28 <Avatar> don't link us, it's all good
04:19:55 <Avatar> we're doing so well we decided to split the party and we're still winning
04:28:10 <Damalon01> lol
04:28:36 <Damalon01> either youre really tough or its an easier scenario
04:28:40 <s_gmusic> well that was weird.
04:29:00 <s_gmusic> channel closed out but was still connected to the server. :\
04:29:02 <s_gmusic> anyway
04:29:51 <s_gmusic> I was recently told that you could be a Thassilonian Mage of a SUB-school, but had to follow the main school's opposition schools. If this is legit, then this opened up a lot of options.
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04:30:55 <Avatar> I'm a level 5 alchemist doing tier 3-4 with 6 people
04:31:17 <Avatar> one of the other guys is a heavy damage dealer as well, and we've got a cleric as well
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04:52:00 <Steven> suuuuuuuup
04:52:44 <Yiroep> Hi.
04:53:12 <RedServant> hey
04:53:35 <Steven> so how goes it guys
04:54:48 <RedServant> First time i've been on here, so good I guess
04:54:55 <Steven> kick ass.
04:55:05 <Steven> so yiroep my things i can play is updated.
04:55:29 <Steven> 7 scenarios i can play for credit.
04:55:35 <Steven> including specials
04:55:38 <Steven> and bonekeep
04:56:16 <Yiroep> Lol.
04:56:25 <Yiroep> I have lots of 7-11's in season 1 and 2 I can play.
04:56:29 <Yiroep> Other than that, it's pretty slim.
04:56:59 <Yiroep> With 7 characters in level range...it'd be nice, lol.
04:57:09 <Yiroep> Trying to get the locals to help me out. :p
04:57:27 <Steven> do or do not... there is no try.
04:57:27 <Yiroep> Mines updated too.
04:59:00 <Yiroep> We have tons of 7-11's now locally.
04:59:04 <Yiroep> I mean characters.
04:59:25 <Yiroep> So I should probably start scheduling some at my store...although I want to finish GMing Hesery of Man first....
04:59:30 <Steven> yeah we have quite a few as well
05:00:16 <Yiroep> I've noticed that tons of people are playing enchanter-types in our area.
05:00:20 <Yiroep> Kinda weird.
05:00:46 <Steven> people who have control issues.
05:01:15 <Yiroep> I feel every battle there's calm emotion or murderous command going on.
05:01:33 <Steven> sounds kinda boring.
05:01:39 <Yiroep> Except that one where they had to fight plants (tehehehe).
05:01:52 <Yiroep> That was way fun. Two enchanter types in that one and they were mad.
05:01:52 <RedServant> I hate spells like charm and dominate, but murderous command is kind of fun to use imo.
05:01:55 <Yiroep> Someone died in it too.
05:02:23 <Steven> which one with plants?
05:02:39 <Yiroep> Ummm...let's see.
05:03:20 <Yiroep> I put in our "other chat" for spoiler purposes, since I still am having trouble PMing.
05:04:02 <Damalon01> no wonder its easy :P
05:04:13 <Steven> oh yeah, thats a pretty nasty one.
05:04:30 <Steven> here's a shambling mound... enjoy.
05:04:57 <Yiroep> Well, when a level 5 in a 8-9 is already injured and didn't get healed (for a specific reason in that one) and then walk up to it...
05:05:01 <Yiroep> Yeah....doesn't go over so hot.
05:05:49 <Steven> yeah last night at our store we put these two problem players together because neither walter or i wanted to GM for them.
05:06:16 <Steven> and stuck em at a GM who is kinda a dick when it comes to GMing
05:06:51 <Steven> and after the game the other 3 people at the table came up and were like, i dont ever want to sit with those two players again lol.
05:07:31 <Yiroep> LOL
05:07:47 <Steven> meanwhile walter and myself both go to sit at a table together
05:07:52 <Steven> and hilarity happened.
05:08:08 <Yiroep> Oh man, I played Library of the Lion with one of the best parties ever.
05:08:16 <Yiroep> We had like 3 newbies, but they really knew how to play. It was super awesome.
05:09:22 <Steven> 1 LN dwarven bullrush/trip fighter, my CN natural weapons ranger, and a LG Paladin and one lobotomized Pregen sorc.
05:09:23 <Yiroep> I really like that scenario, but with the wrong party it can be really easy to fail. :p
05:09:40 <Avatar> I played it with the wrong party
05:10:26 <Yiroep> There was a funny scenario of the two rogues in the party casting burning hands and ending a battle in like 30 seconds of real time.
05:10:45 <Yiroep> Granted, one rogue (mine) was also a wizard and the other was an ifrit. :p
05:11:20 <Steven> so we board a barge and i ask the GM if the captain of the barge is a looker when compaired to dwarven females, and he was like she might as well be a goddess, so my character convinced her to take a tumble.
05:12:27 <Steven> so i'm in the captains quarters when people outside start shouting there are pirates incoming, so my character stops what he is doing and climbs on top of the little barge building thing
05:12:46 <Avatar> did you just start a story in the middle of the story
05:12:49 <Steven> the pirate boat gets in range and i charge from the top of the ship onto their ship, which had like 11 guys on it.
05:13:08 <Steven> nope, im keeping spoilers out of the thing, i cant tell you what happens before that point.
05:13:21 <Steven> killing one of the pirates in one shot.
05:13:58 <Steven> walters character has a reach of like 25 feet and as the boat approaches he sunders the boat putting a substantial hole in it
05:14:11 <Steven> my round comes back, and i full round and kill like 3 more of the pirates
05:14:34 <Steven> the head chick decides that its not safe on the boat with me and my badger so jumps int he water
05:15:20 <Steven> walters character climbs ontop of our barge and then jumps onto the prow of their ship while enlarged
05:15:33 <Steven> which catapaults me and my badger into the water
05:15:46 <Steven> but we planned it so i did a reflex save to 'aim' where i wanted to go
05:16:04 <Steven> and so we end up flanking this chick
05:16:22 <Yiroep> Is this in Tien?
05:16:24 <Yiroep> Or not?
05:16:47 <Steven> she shifts into water elemental to escape and my badger and i just destroy her because we were hasted and chased her down
05:16:56 <Steven> and that was the least janky fight.
05:16:58 <Yiroep> Oh, nm it's not in Tien.
05:17:37 <Yiroep> Nice.
05:18:24 <Steven> it was not really fair for them, my favored enemy is human
05:18:47 <Steven> and around 85% of the people you fight are human.
05:35:49 <Steven> so
05:36:01 <Steven> how bout them breakfast burriots
05:36:08 <Steven> burritos
05:36:56 <Steven> cant wait till i can level up Iesha again
05:37:20 <Steven> shes gonna take Witchhunter as her barbarian power
05:38:00 <Steven> so if somebody casts a spell at her she's gonna be like... "Did you just make a rude sign at me... OH I KNOW YOU DID NOT MAKE A RUDE SIGN AT ME!" /rage kill spellcaster
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05:41:56 <Yiroep> Wow! Never noticed that rage power.
05:42:00 <Yiroep> That's a damn good rage power.
05:42:07 <Yiroep> (I also never really play barbarians)
05:42:55 <Steven> yeah, my rage prophet is fun
05:43:14 <Steven> shes got an ac of around 35-40 depending on buffs
05:46:58 <sicmic> i love you guys
05:47:03 <sicmic> i think you guys rock
05:47:18 <sicmic> i know im annoying on here, but i just wanted to let u all know
05:47:21 <Yiroep> Level?
05:47:26 <sicmic> thanks guys
05:47:28 <sicmic> bye guys
05:47:34 <Steven> shes level 10
05:47:44 <sicmic> p.s. if n e of u wanna blowie, dont be shy, mesg me
05:47:50 <sicmic> thanks guys
05:47:52 <sicmic> bye guys
05:48:04 <Steven> but shes not wearing any armor.
05:50:27 <Yiroep> Does she have an armor revelation? :p
05:51:04 <Steven> its a secret mang!
05:51:14 <Yiroep> I'm assuming "yes" then.
05:51:14 <Yiroep> Lol.
05:51:39 <Steven> i've told ya, if you wanna see the build you gotta GM for us!
05:51:42 <Yiroep> You're talking to a person very familiar with oracles.
05:52:15 <Yiroep> I have some more guesses but I don't wanna just say your build. :p
05:52:37 <Steven> its probably not close.
05:53:11 <Yiroep> I doubt that.
05:53:43 <Yiroep> I have a 40+ ac character too. Now, he's not a rage prophet...but still.
05:54:59 <Yiroep> He died to trample, lol.
05:55:12 <Yiroep> 3 reflex saves he had a great chance of making.
05:55:16 <Yiroep> And didn't make any of them.
05:55:22 <Steven> shitty titties
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05:55:57 <Yiroep> I mean he's back...but it was just hilarious.
05:56:23 <Steven> i've been considering purchasing armor for this character since they can actually wear it.
05:56:23 <Yiroep> I don't really like him in battle...although now that crane style is changed...
05:56:30 <Yiroep> People may be more receptive to him.
05:56:40 <Yiroep> Crane wing*
05:56:58 <Yiroep> Mithral breastplate, mang.
05:57:00 <Steven> and it would make my standing AC of about 35 and would allow me to get a 45-50ac
05:57:01 <Yiroep> Or celestial armor.
05:57:27 <Steven> but i like having a 35-40ac unarmored.
05:57:44 <Yiroep> Yeah and it's more money, too.
05:57:54 <Yiroep> Do you REALLY need that extra AC?
05:58:24 * Steven shrugs
05:59:06 <Steven> shes kinda a bitch to deal with because shes got high ac, decent saves, utility spells, good CMB/CMD and hits like a truck.
05:59:08 <Avatar> what's a good oracle
05:59:30 <Yiroep> The funny thing about my character is that I built him for a high attack bonus. A high AC kind of just naturally happened from the build.
05:59:40 <Yiroep> Avatar: You talking mystery?
06:00:18 <Steven> loaded question.
06:00:29 <Avatar> yeah
06:00:33 <Avatar> not the battle oracle
06:00:36 <Avatar> something spellcastery
06:00:43 <Steven> Time
06:00:48 <Yiroep> Dark Tapestry
06:00:50 <Yiroep> Flame
06:00:52 <Yiroep> Waves
06:01:03 <Yiroep> Winter
06:01:19 <Yiroep> If you want necro-stuff, Bones.
06:01:30 <Steven> i dont really like the elemental tied ones
06:01:36 <Steven> lunar is pretty fuckin broken.
06:01:42 <Yiroep> Lunar is nuts.
06:01:56 <Yiroep> The ONLY downside to lunar is mystery spells.
06:02:02 <Yiroep> Those can be easily replaced with an archetype.
06:02:35 <Steven> yup
06:02:44 <Yiroep> Flames is good with crossblooded sorcerer. :p
06:02:52 <Steven> meh
06:03:24 <Yiroep> I have a winter oracle that makes all his spells cold so he slows everything.
06:03:41 <Yiroep> Cold (flaming) sphere of slowing is awesome.
06:04:10 <Yiroep> Especially as a reflex save. :p
06:05:25 <Steven> for a caster i'd stick to lunar, time, dark tapestry, maybe life if you want to do caster+backup heals
06:06:08 <Steven> but i'd pick lunar for a caster personally.
06:06:18 <Steven> and focus in negative/positive energy
06:06:52 <Yiroep> Lol, at level 10, inflict light wounds mass becomes really good for a negative energy lunar oracle. :p
06:07:04 <Steven> oh yeah it does.
06:07:42 <Avatar> lunar eh
06:08:20 <Yiroep> Yeah, have your animal companion, moonlight bridge, confusing inflicts, and be happy. :p
06:08:26 <Yiroep> And charisma to AC.
06:08:37 <Yiroep> And reflex saves.
06:08:40 <Steven> yeah, at 7th level you can get a revelation that makes it so you can confuse people if they fail a save vs your spells that inflict negative energy
06:09:09 <Steven> like inflict light wounds
06:09:20 <Steven> so you cast mass inflict light wounds
06:09:35 <Steven> and all the enemies are confused for... 5 rounds i think
06:09:47 <Yiroep> Yup, it's a damaging confusion.
06:09:51 <Yiroep> Yeah, that's correct.
06:10:16 <Steven> not to mention, you have revelations that add Cha to AC
06:10:19 <Steven> an animal companion
06:10:28 <Yiroep> You have to choose inflict spells as your "bonus" to be able to use it that way, though.
06:10:50 <Steven> and on top of that
06:11:18 <Steven> you can choose a revelation that will allow you to turn into an animal... kinda like a druid
06:12:10 <Yiroep> I'm a fan of moonlight bridge too.
06:12:12 <Steven> oh and there is the blinding ray
06:12:38 <Steven> 1d6 plus 1 per 2 oracle levels and a fort save or be blinded for a round
06:13:13 <Yiroep> Plus you add perception as a class skill, which is nice.
06:13:19 <Steven> super nice
06:13:26 <Steven> the lunar mystery is just very very powerful
06:13:41 <Steven> anyways, I gotta go take care of my dad for a bit.
06:15:10 <Steven> also some of the spells on the lunar spellcasting is pretty crazy
06:15:52 <Steven> like Moonstruck... you force someone to gain natural attacks, under the rage spell, and confused
06:15:59 <Avatar> what about uh
06:16:01 <Avatar> heavens
06:16:08 <Avatar> that didn't make your list
06:16:19 <Yiroep> Heavens make a good caster but it's pretty one-trick pony to me.
06:16:24 <Steven> because its a one trick pony thats fucking annoying as shit
06:16:30 <Steven> oh i color spray... every round...
06:16:32 <Steven> forever
06:16:52 <Yiroep> I had one and I haven't played him in over a year and a half by choice.
06:16:54 <Steven> until i get the next more powerful version of color spray... then i'll do that... every round... forever
06:17:17 <Steven> its a lot like having a witch in the party that all they do is slumber.
06:17:59 <Steven> anyways, be back in like 20-30
06:18:33 <Yiroep> I think Outer Rifts can be made into a pretty good caster.
06:19:06 <Yiroep> It's pretty good against outsiders at least. +4 on SR checks vs. chaotic and evil outsiders is pretty damn good in my book.
06:19:07 <Avatar> honestly I could just keep playing a witch forever
06:19:15 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, you can't
06:19:41 <Yiroep> Also getting confusion on the class list is good.
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06:20:17 <Avatar> hexes are basically the magic user I always wanted to play, none of this spells per day and then you're out garbage
06:21:05 <Yiroep> I suppose.
06:21:15 <Yiroep> I'm just not a fan of their spell list, and the hexes don't do it for me.
06:21:50 <Yiroep> But I won't deny that witches are pretty good.
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06:23:26 <Avatar> on demand flight is pretty sexy
06:23:36 <Avatar> as one of many
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06:41:32 <Steven> boom! done.
06:41:44 <Steven> and the old cranky fuck said i'd take an hour.
06:41:53 <Ballig> did it take 2 hours
06:41:56 <Steven> i told him 20 minutes, he didnt believe me
06:42:06 <Avatar> ended up having someone die
06:42:12 <Steven> took 20 minutes... i rubbed it in his face.
06:42:13 <Avatar> among quite a few other near deaths
06:42:14 <Ballig> really it took 2 hours
06:42:25 <Ballig> that's sexual assault in many jurisdictions
06:42:36 <Steven> totes was.
06:43:06 <Steven> alright, rust time. coraith2010 if anybody wanna come play.
07:06:50 <Damalon01> hmmmm ok
07:09:56 <Damalon01> what went wrong Avatar?
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10:38:43 <sicMic> guys i wanna be part of your gang
10:40:11 <sicMic> guys i wanna be part of your gang
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14:41:09 <Brunius|M-> Ballig, it probably took 3 hours
14:48:40 <mib_raqq0v> ?
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14:50:41 <K3GasaiYuno> what took 3 hours
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15:27:35 <Avatar> yo
15:27:42 <K3GasaiYuno> hi
15:28:01 <Avatar> nobody knows what took 3 hours
15:28:11 <K3GasaiYuno> *sadface*
15:28:24 <Avatar> I'm sure we'll live
15:28:26 <K3GasaiYuno> wanna play
15:28:31 <K3GasaiYuno> http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/english/
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15:29:16 <K3GasaiYuno> http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/english/#/private/uYNk1T4bmo
15:29:19 <K3GasaiYuno> play with me
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15:30:13 <K3GasaiYuno> http://team.forsvarsmakten.se/english/#/private/uYNk1T4bmo
15:30:40 <Avatar> what are you spamming
15:30:46 <K3GasaiYuno> srry
15:31:07 <Avatar> sorry what
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15:31:19 <K3GasaiYuno> spamming its a game
15:31:28 <K3GasaiYuno> was asking if you wanted to play
15:31:41 <Avatar> do you play pathfinder
15:31:48 <K3GasaiYuno> trying to
15:31:52 <K3GasaiYuno> learned
15:31:54 <K3GasaiYuno> learning
15:32:51 <K3GasaiYuno> oh could you check out my character check
15:33:21 <Avatar> character sheet
15:33:21 <K3GasaiYuno> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/charsheet.php5?id=919
15:33:45 <Avatar> fighter goes under 'class name' in the class recorder
15:33:51 <Avatar> and you fill out the rest of that row
15:33:57 <Avatar> and hit autofill and calculate
15:34:45 <K3GasaiYuno> saved
15:34:47 <K3GasaiYuno> now check
15:34:54 <K3GasaiYuno> did i do it right
15:35:11 <Avatar> the whole row
15:35:19 <Avatar> your BAB as a fighter is 1
15:35:20 <K3GasaiYuno> what is bab
15:35:23 <Avatar> base attack bonus
15:35:31 <Avatar> check the table in your classes chapter
15:35:32 <K3GasaiYuno> and what about the rest of them
15:35:37 <K3GasaiYuno> oh okay
15:35:40 <Avatar> it has base saves in there too
15:35:47 <Avatar> common newbie error, easy to forget about
15:36:08 <K3GasaiYuno> what is la
15:36:20 <K3GasaiYuno> RACE & LA
15:36:35 <Avatar> your race is human, ignore LA
15:36:53 <Avatar> your gender is up the top, don't list it twice
15:37:18 <Avatar> same with your height
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15:37:33 <Avatar> as a fighter you get proficiency with all simple and martial weapons
15:37:45 <K3GasaiYuno> oh okay
15:38:28 <Avatar> you get more hp than 10 I think
15:38:42 <Avatar> fighter gives you 10, but you've got a 14 con, so that's +2 per level
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15:40:18 <Avatar> you can't take soaring sprinter unless you have Quests & Campaigns
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15:40:39 <K3GasaiYuno> oh
15:40:48 <Avatar> there'll be another trait you can take that gives you +1 instead
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15:41:11 <K3GasaiYuno> so about traits
15:41:26 <K3GasaiYuno> it says i can take 3
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15:41:34 <K3GasaiYuno> is that right
15:42:06 <Avatar> 2
15:42:11 <Avatar> where does it say 3
15:42:21 <K3GasaiYuno> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/
15:42:32 <Avatar> that's a contents page
15:42:45 <K3GasaiYuno> ill find where exactly
15:43:02 <K3GasaiYuno> oh sorry i misread
15:43:07 <K3GasaiYuno> 2 is start
15:44:04 <Avatar> man I had my heart set on taking holy bombs for my alchemist at level 6, after tonight
15:44:11 <Avatar> but they have a pre-req of 8th level :(
15:44:26 <Avatar> I guess I'll have to get wings instead
15:44:55 <Ballig> really it took 2 hours
15:45:07 <Ballig> that's sexual assault in many jurisdictions
15:45:17 <Steven> totes was.
15:45:47 <Steven> alright, rust time. coraith2010 if anybody wanna come play.
15:52:08 <K3GasaiYuno> *sadface?*
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15:58:53 <Damalon01> hey all
15:58:59 <Avatar> yo
15:59:07 <Avatar> anyone got an opinion on the cracked orange prism ioun stone
15:59:27 <Avatar> does it give a cantrip/orison if your class normally can't cast spells, or has a spell list without 0 levels
16:00:32 <Damalon01> is that in seekers of secrets?
16:00:42 <Avatar> yeah
16:00:58 <Avatar> Orange prism: Wearer adds one cantrip or orison
16:00:59 <Avatar> (determined when the stone is created) to his list of spells
16:00:59 <Avatar> known or spells prepared. Price: 1,000 gp
16:01:03 <Damalon01> let me have a look
16:01:20 <Avatar> the forums are a bit divided
16:02:48 <Damalon01> hmmm the resonance effect is interesting if you like a little chance
16:03:05 <Avatar> I'm only referring to the cracked effect
16:04:11 <Damalon01> im pretty sure it only adds the extra cantrip if you have cantrips. it says list of spells
16:04:11 <Damalon01> known or spells prepared and that suggests if you dont have a list you cant add it in.
16:05:24 <Damalon01> look it could be cool, and im a big fan of ioun stones but i think youre better off with other choices.
16:05:35 <Damalon01> suchas a cracked pink and green sphere
16:06:09 <Avatar> I need to find a way to get detect magic for my alchemist
16:06:20 <Avatar> who has plenty of spellcraft and no bloody cantrips
16:06:55 <Damalon01> ok. im not sure itll work for an alchemist. does he get cantrips?
16:07:17 <Avatar> no
16:07:21 <Damalon01> does his extracts count? i see what you meant by 'not having level 0s'
16:07:38 <Avatar> alchemists can learn spells from wizard spellbooks
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16:08:06 <Damalon01> yeah i know that but they dont have cantrips so im not sure it would work
16:08:23 <Damalon01> what about a wand of detect magic? do you have UMD?
16:08:54 <Avatar> shit UMD
16:09:29 <Damalon01> hehehe you forgot it?
16:09:38 <Avatar> I dumped cha
16:09:45 <Avatar> I think I was going to take something that was going to change that actually
16:09:52 <Avatar> a trait out of PFS primer?
16:10:11 <Damalon01> yeah i think theres a trait but i dont know it
16:10:21 <Avatar> makes UMD use int instead of cha
16:10:41 <Damalon01> uh huh
16:11:08 <Avatar> how much does a 0 level wand cost
16:11:13 <Avatar> 375gp for 50 charges
16:12:52 <Avatar> I kind of want to be able to spam it
16:13:19 <Avatar> admittedly, that wand might be a cheaper option anyway
16:16:11 <Damalon01> short term its cheaper
16:16:19 <Avatar> 50 charges
16:16:23 <Avatar> usually someone else will be around
16:16:27 <Damalon01> indeed
16:16:45 <Damalon01> if you get thru more than 1 wand ill be surprised
16:16:54 <Damalon01> that why i suggested it
16:16:59 <Avatar> even if I get two wands
16:17:06 <Avatar> I am already level 6, by the time it expires, I should get to 12
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16:17:30 <Damalon01> cant you use Prestige to buy the wand?
16:17:37 <Avatar> waste of 2 prestige
16:17:44 <Avatar> you can buy an item "up to 750gp"
16:18:00 <Avatar> but I wouldn't burn it on a 375gp item
16:18:00 <Damalon01> not if you got heaps :P or dont care about ressing ::P
16:18:17 <Avatar> I care about ressing
16:18:19 <Avatar> very much so
16:18:23 <Avatar> I die easily, ask mekkis
16:19:03 <Damalon01> hehehe
16:19:12 <Damalon01> then i guess you care
16:24:55 <Avatar> not sure if I should invest in a clear spindle with my garbage will save
16:25:49 <Avatar> I don't like clear spindles but I feel with my +1 will save I might be pushed to the brink here
16:30:50 <Damalon01> you could learn protection from evil as an extract right? then you have the option of prepping it without having to resort to cheap and nasty power gaming tricks :P
16:31:00 <Avatar> alchemists are arcane
16:31:09 <Avatar> prot from evil is divine
16:31:19 <Damalon01> its arcane too mate
16:32:28 <Damalon01> prot from evil isnt on the alchemist list tho. shame.
16:33:23 <Damalon01> i guess thats something wizard/sorcerer have over the alchemist
16:33:40 <Avatar> er really? arcane?
16:33:45 <Avatar> !spell protection from evil
16:33:56 <diebot> Avatar, PROTECTION FROM EVIL abjuration ([good]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, M/DF Duration: 1 min./level (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no; see textSource: PFRPG Core
16:33:57 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/protection_from_evil.html
16:34:02 <Avatar> there you go
16:39:07 <Damalon01> :)
16:40:44 <Damalon01> i used to play a Conjurer that specialized in summoning devils. i learned quickly that you need magic circle versus evil to control those bastards or they eat you. same goes for dimensional anchor.
16:41:03 <Damalon01> hey Mekkis you there?
16:46:06 <Avatar> you play a conjurer that summons devils?
16:46:12 <Avatar> weren't you getting up mekkis about his diabolist
16:50:44 <Damalon01> nah mate i dont mind if people play diabloists
16:50:57 <Damalon01> also i played a Conjurer back in 3.5
16:51:17 <Avatar> you were getting up mekkis about his diabolist during race for the runecarved key
16:51:24 <Avatar> I distinctly remember the argument, it was quite entertaining
16:53:50 <Damalon01> did i? i dont remember
16:54:29 <Damalon01> was i BSing about him being a Cheliax?
16:54:50 <Damalon01> i vaguely remember him and Ulzef being pro-slavers
16:55:02 <Damalon01> and I was playing my Adoren Gunslinger
16:55:07 <Damalon01> Andoren
16:55:33 <Damalon01> i might have given 'em some shit for that
16:56:05 <Damalon01> but yeah I was 'in-character'
16:59:09 <Avatar> yeah something like that
17:01:32 <Avatar> cloak of the hedge wizard is 2500gp that also gives at will detect magic and a few other things
17:03:29 <Damalon01> tyhats seems ok, but it does take the claok slot. No cloak of resistance for you!
17:05:05 <Avatar> you don't wear it in combat
17:05:08 <Avatar> you put it on when you want to detect
17:05:24 <Avatar> I have never bought a cloak of resist, I might add
17:05:29 <Avatar> garbage item
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17:10:28 <Damalon01> really? interesting. im a big believer in saves.
17:10:45 <Mekkis> I'm a big believer in interesting magic items
17:10:53 <Mekkis> rather than ones that just give +x to y
17:15:40 <Damalon01> a fair point
17:16:15 <Damalon01> Hey Mekkis, are we likely to play way of the wicked tonight or tomorrow?
17:17:40 <Mekkis> no. I plan to negotiate a time after SS
17:17:54 <Mekkis> hopefully next week
17:18:55 <Mekkis> check out my city streets map
17:19:01 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/citystreets.pdf
17:19:33 <Damalon01> okey dokey, just wanted to know for my schedule
17:19:39 <Mekkis> no problem
17:40:58 <Avatar> I am playing with perhaps the coolest bard ever
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17:43:44 <s_gmusic> seen mention of Lunar Oracle earlier, and I'm toying with a silly build in a homebrew: 1 Lunar Oracle (prophetic armor revelation)/2 Paladin/3 Fighter. CHA to AC, Reflex, CMD, then All Saves. Armor up and start swinging
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17:53:22 <goodeeds> hi, Im 40 years old and thinking of going back to uni. I was worried if id fit in though. I mean, would the younger kids be laughing behind my back, calling me mean names or saying things like " that old man wont get a job, whats he doing here"? would they also expct me to know everything coz im older when in fact i dont, coz if i did i woudnt be there in the first place..
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19:17:13 <Avatar> we're doing so well we decided to split the party and we're still winning
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19:25:28 <Damalon01> lol
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19:25:54 <Damalon01> either youre really tough or its an easier scenario
19:25:58 <s_gmusic> well that was weird.
19:26:18 <s_gmusic> channel closed out but was still connected to the server. :\
19:26:20 <s_gmusic> anyway
19:27:09 <s_gmusic> I was recently told that you could be a Thassilonian Mage of a SUB-school, but had to follow the main school's opposition schools. If this is legit, then this opened up a lot of options.
19:28:13 <Avatar> I'm a level 5 alchemist doing tier 3-4 with 6 people
19:28:34 <Avatar> one of the other guys is a heavy damage dealer as well, and we've got a cleric as well
19:41:24 <sicMic> guys i wanna be part of your gang
19:42:53 <sicMic> guys i wanna be part of your gang
20:01:20 <Damalon01> no wonder its easy :P
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20:44:15 <sicmic> i love you guys
20:44:20 <sicmic> i think you guys rock
20:44:35 <sicmic> i know im annoying on here, but i just wanted to let u all know
20:44:43 <sicmic> thanks guys
20:44:46 <sicmic> bye guys
20:45:02 <sicmic> p.s. if n e of u wanna blowie, dont be shy, mesg me
20:45:08 <sicmic> thanks guys
20:45:10 <sicmic> bye guys
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21:16:33 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, you can't
21:39:24 <Avatar> ended up having someone die
21:39:31 <Avatar> among quite a few other near deaths
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22:04:07 <Damalon01> hmmmm ok
22:07:14 <Damalon01> what went wrong Avatar?
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23:43:50 <Brunius|M-> Ballig, it probably took 3 hours
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23:53:22 <K3GasaiYuno> what took 3 hours
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