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00:03:43 Yiroep ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
00:17:58 <Rodrigo> calling all you partay people on the dance floor tonight!
00:18:08 <Rodrigo> bring your family, its party time tongiht, my place
00:18:15 <Rodrigo> lots of drugs
00:18:19 <Rodrigo> lots of loud music
00:18:22 <Rodrigo> yeah baby
00:19:00 <Rodrigo> cmon, a celebration is on tonight
00:19:25 <Rodrigo> thanks guys
01:13:18 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup
01:25:48 <s_gmusic> yo
01:27:20 <Steven> just reading a forum post.
02:10:11 <Avatar> 15 13 14 12 7 15
02:10:21 <Avatar> how do I rejig that to a better array for a paladin
02:10:56 <Avatar> assuming a bump to cha at 4th and without the human +2 bonus on str
02:11:14 <Avatar> there is a 13 dex there
02:26:06 <Steven> yo
02:30:35 <Avatar> yo
02:30:41 <Avatar> 15 13 14 12 7 15
02:30:45 <Avatar> how do I rejig that to a better array for a paladin
02:30:49 <Avatar> assuming a bump to cha at 4th and without the human +2 bonus on str
02:30:55 <Avatar> there is a 13 dex there
02:32:08 <Steven> ill be back in a second gotta take dogs out
02:33:00 <Avatar> roger that
02:33:18 <Steven> cant wait till monday
02:33:30 <Steven> well next monday that is
02:34:49 <Avatar> steven you've seen siege run before haven't you
02:34:58 <Steven> several times now.
02:35:03 <Steven> some would say 3 times.
02:35:08 <Avatar> did any of them have an overwhelming victory
02:35:15 <Steven> all 3
02:35:30 <Brunius> !rng KSP Banished Wargame
02:35:32 <Avatar> I'm trying to work out why we had such a hard time
02:35:40 <Brunius> I
02:35:41 <Brunius> what
02:35:43 <Brunius> no bots?
02:35:45 <Avatar> I was under the impression getting overwhelming was tough
02:35:59 <Brunius> Ballig Mekkis what's going on
02:36:09 <Steven> lack of optimization in player characters?
02:36:17 <Brunius> Avatar, it might have been due to the lack of communication
02:36:29 <Avatar> what lack of communication
02:36:42 <Brunius> I don't remember much coordination on which districts we were targeting
02:36:53 <Avatar> did other groups do that steven
02:36:55 <Brunius> We just went "Well...that area is kinda getting hit. Maybe we should go there"
02:37:09 <Avatar> I never got the impression that was an option
02:37:36 <Steven> typically if you have a seeker table the event does better.
02:37:50 <Damalon01> a seeker table?
02:37:59 <Steven> a table full of people that are 12+
02:38:27 <Damalon01> aahhh
02:38:38 <Avatar> I was wondering if the play by post guys somehow had more time between turns and used that to their advantage somehow
02:39:03 <Avatar> but maybe not if it's common to get overwhelmings anyway
02:39:15 <Steven> its not common
02:39:46 <Avatar> all 3 that you saw got overwhelming
02:40:19 <Brunius> Maybe I should get bairaq to 12
02:40:56 <Avatar> I am still itching to play buck in eyes of the ten
02:41:55 <Steven> so whatcha tryin to do with your paladin?
02:42:06 <Steven> i think most tables end up getting the one right below overwhelming
02:42:36 <Avatar> they said they were lucky their time ran out too
02:42:50 <Avatar> that seems like it would be easy to do on a play by post
02:42:51 <Brunius> Avatar: A better description of RftRK to me might have been "The one where Andrew ragequit. Again. Again."
02:43:18 <Avatar> what is RftRK
02:43:25 <Avatar> oh, race
02:43:39 <Avatar> wasn't that the one game where he didn't rage
02:43:57 <Brunius> Remember we all stepped out of the last encounter?
02:44:07 <Avatar> yeah I remember it clearly
02:44:11 <Avatar> he didn't rage though
02:44:22 <Avatar> I have seen him rage
02:44:39 <Avatar> I don't know how stephen managed to calm him down
02:45:04 <Avatar> ulzef was there
02:46:49 <Avatar> we did leave him in a pretty terrible position
02:47:11 <Brunius> Yeah
02:47:16 <Steven> it always sounds like you guys have such hard times.
02:48:14 <Brunius> Comes with not having characters optimised out the ass
02:48:29 <Avatar> yeah I am making a paladin and not wanting him to be a tiefling
02:48:33 <Avatar> I think it will be my undoing
02:48:43 <Steven> might want to up the power level a little on your characters then.
02:49:09 <Avatar> we usually don't have terrible characters
02:49:15 <Avatar> none of us are optimised out the wazoo either
02:49:23 <Avatar> we might have one person who is
02:49:46 <Avatar> well we usually have one person
02:49:58 <Avatar> most of the games I played locally everyone wanted me to bring my gunslinger
02:50:12 <Avatar> basically the insurance policy
02:50:52 <Damalon01> Steven I will never 'up the power level' on my character. Ill quit PFS before that happens.
02:51:11 <Steven> right, thats a nice position to have.
02:51:18 <Avatar> how many characters have you had and how many have died
02:51:37 <Steven> do you mean perm dead?
02:51:54 <Avatar> umm
02:52:00 <Avatar> yeah I guess so
02:52:04 <Avatar> that was to Damalon01
02:52:40 <Steven> yeah, well like i was saying, you can up your power level of your characters and then dial it back until you actually need that power.
02:53:09 <Damalon01> in PFS i currently have 5 active characters and none of them have ied, even temp death. But then I havent gotten over level 7 yet.
02:53:21 <Damalon01> died
02:53:34 <s_gmusic> for some reason, I can't overpower my characters when I make them. there's a flaw somewhere in my thinking when making them, but I don't know what.
02:54:05 <Avatar> that's good if you can survive with a low power character
02:54:41 <Steven> I have 23 characters, i've got zero Perm deaths and i've died probably less than 10 times.
02:56:02 <Damalon01> good for you Steven. I standd by my earlier declaration. If the game demands I change my play style or perish id rather just quit the game and play something else, something that supports my style.
02:56:06 <Avatar> yeah but your characters are optimised out the wazoo
02:56:25 <Avatar> I am a little surprised you have temp deaths
02:56:35 <Steven> high level play.
02:56:46 <Steven> it all becomes nuke fights
02:57:17 <Damalon01> perhaps i should be grateful i havent reached high level play then, it sounds like its not my game
02:57:36 <Avatar> my characters died at levels 1, 2, 3, and two at 11 I think
02:57:53 <Steven> let me go count it up.
02:59:19 <Steven> 4 deaths.
02:59:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, any news on Eot10?
03:00:08 <Avatar> no, forgot to ask about it
03:00:21 <Avatar> I've been busy trying to get the Among games played
03:00:49 <Steven> im back!
03:01:04 <Steven> so whatcha doin with your paladin sir?
03:01:35 <Steven> 1 death to paralysis level 4, 1 to black tentacles level 7, 1 to Crit from big nasty in a game level 13, 1 from a bullrush into molten gold at level 5
03:01:47 <Steven> feel like im forgetting one.
03:01:56 <s_gmusic> wow.
03:02:37 <Steven> why do you need 13 dex?
03:04:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, the reason for the overwhelming is because the scaling for multiple tables is broken
03:04:49 <Avatar> the play by posters had 5x 4 player tables
03:04:55 <s_gmusic> most of the games where I play there's one powergamer, a few that play like myself (not OP, but work as they should), and several low-power players. a few temp deaths, but nothing permanent yet.
03:05:04 <Mekkis> that's still more than Melbourne got
03:05:13 <Avatar> every table was 4 players and they got an overwhelming victory
03:05:20 <Avatar> do more tables help
03:05:28 <Mekkis> definitely
03:05:30 <Mekkis> !spell crafter's fortune
03:05:36 <Mekkis> it's the first part that matters most
03:05:42 <Avatar> what are the mechanics
03:05:44 <Mekkis> the number of districts saved
03:05:55 <Mekkis> you get points for each district in the green
03:06:03 <Mekkis> and lose them for each district in the red
03:06:22 <Mekkis> they would have had much better coordination as to which district to help, for instance
03:06:32 <Avatar> so does more tables mean only one table in that district have to win for it to count as a win?
03:07:11 <Mekkis> no, basically every 'tick' (30 minutes with <= 5 tables, 15 minutes with 5+ tables) the situation degrades
03:07:24 <Steven> yeah, its kinda wonky
03:07:30 <Mekkis> and the number of victories counteracts that
03:08:22 <Mekkis> so really, having 1 day per fifteen minutes, even at the slower pace afforded by pbp, would have given them more chance of victories in each sector
03:08:37 <Mekkis> !spell crafter's fortune
03:08:41 <diebot> Mekkis, CRAFTER'S FORTUNE transmutation ([]) alchemist 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S, F (a tool) Duration: 1 day/level or until discharged (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
03:08:41 <diebot> The target is struck by inspiration and gains a +5 luck bonus on its next Craft skill check.
03:08:45 <s_gmusic> any tips for running Siege, particularly the lower tiers? I'm scheduled to run it in my area on the 8th, so advice would be nice.
03:10:33 <Mekkis> Damalon01, you free on the first?
03:14:23 <Avatar> I don't want 13 dex
03:14:26 <Avatar> I just had a spare point leftover
03:14:38 <Steven> why dex at all?
03:15:17 <Avatar> 12 dex to have +1 AC with platemail
03:15:40 <Avatar> do you mean especially at the slower place afforded by pbp?
03:15:50 <Avatar> pace*
03:16:37 <Avatar> the pacing is what throws me off, coupled with the storyboarded finish at the end
03:16:38 <Avatar> is that not worth it
03:16:58 <Avatar> bit of reflex bit of initiative as well
03:17:06 <Avatar> probably 2 or 3 points better spent elsewhere
03:17:31 <Steven> meh
03:17:41 <Steven> you get cha to saves
03:18:27 <Avatar> is 15 cha a good plan, to bump to 16 at 4th
03:18:40 <Damalon01> yup
03:18:48 * Steven shrugs
03:18:57 <Avatar> do you need cha before 4th
03:18:57 <Steven> i'd go a little different
03:19:15 <Steven> but really its not a big deal
03:19:48 <Avatar> 16 10 14 12 7 16
03:19:55 <Avatar> er, 15 cha
03:19:56 <Steven> are you trying to do big fatty damage?
03:20:05 <Avatar> yeah trying to survive in melee
03:20:17 <Avatar> that 16 gets bumped to 18 with human
03:20:53 <Steven> i'd prolly go like 15/10/16/12/7/16
03:21:01 <Steven> bump str at 4th
03:21:10 <Steven> thats with mods.
03:21:12 <Avatar> what am I missing that paladins use cha for
03:21:25 <Mekkis> yeah
03:21:29 <Steven> saves, spells, smite bonus to hit.
03:21:39 <Avatar> smite, divine grace and lay on hands uses
03:21:49 <Steven> yeah
03:22:04 <Steven> of course if i was building a paladin... it would be pretty janky.
03:22:36 <Avatar> I don't think that adds up?
03:22:45 <Avatar> 7+0+10+2-4+10
03:22:52 <Avatar> it's really hard to say without actually having been directly involved
03:23:06 <Avatar> that's 25
03:23:26 <Avatar> works with a 14 con but not 16
03:23:29 <Steven> read what i said agin.
03:23:44 <Avatar> oh
03:23:57 <Avatar> str is a bit low there
03:24:06 <Steven> If i were building i'd go with 14/10/16/12/8/18
03:24:23 <Avatar> shit really
03:24:42 <Steven> paladins dont really need a high str since they have smite.
03:25:30 <Steven> ~95% of all BBEG's are Evil
03:26:39 <Avatar> alright I will run with that
03:27:41 <Steven> the real benefit of paladin is the divine grace
03:27:55 <Steven> swift action healing is totally boss mode
03:28:06 <Avatar> yeah my saves look a lot sexier now than they did 5 minutes ago
03:28:12 <Steven> and having spells that can keep you from dying is stupid good.
03:28:29 <Steven> hero's defiance so OP
03:28:47 <Steven> specially when coupled with Fey Foundling
03:28:53 <Avatar> !feat hero's defiance
03:28:54 <diebot> Avatar, HEROIC DEFIANCE []Prereq: Diehard, Endurance, base Fortitude save +8. You struggle on when others would fall.
03:28:55 <diebot> Benefit: Once per day as an immediate action you can delay the onset of one harmful condition or affliction (such as panicked, paralyzed, stunned, and so on), including permanent and instantaneous conditions. Activating this feat delays the onset of the condition until the end of your next turn, after which time the condition takes its normal
03:28:55 <diebot> effect. This feat has no effect on hit point damage or ability damage. Source: APG
03:29:12 <Steven> its a spell
03:29:16 <Steven> !spell hero's defiance
03:29:16 <diebot> Steven, HERO'S DEFIANCE conjuration (healing[]) paladin 1 1 immediate action Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save: SR:Source: APG
03:29:16 <diebot> The instant before you are reduced to 0 or fewer hit points, you can expend a use of your lay on hands ability to heal yourself as if you had used lay on hands, plus an additional 1d6 hit points. If this healing brings your hit point total above 0 hit points, you do not fall, and may continue to act. If you have no more uses of lay on hands this
03:29:16 <diebot> spell has no effect.
03:29:28 <Avatar> holy shit
03:29:40 <Steven> yeah
03:30:11 <Avatar> do you know if I'm able to select another race's weapon
03:30:20 <Avatar> I want to use a horsechopper
03:30:29 <Steven> yeah, if its legal to buy you can buy it.
03:30:47 <Avatar> I've never heard of anyone taking it before, which seems strange because it's a good weapon
03:30:55 <Avatar> reach, 1d10, x3
03:31:01 <Steven> yeah its not bad.
03:31:10 <Steven> Fauchard is better imo.
03:31:49 <Avatar> obscure book
03:32:12 <Avatar> I'm banking on a x3 crit
03:32:14 <Steven> oh wait, horse chopper martial huh
03:33:23 <s_gmusic> are items in the bot yet?
03:33:27 <Steven> if you're going for x3 crit, i'd say earthbreaker all the way
03:34:27 <Avatar> doesn't have reach
03:34:43 <Avatar> diebot doesn't have items
03:34:55 <s_gmusic> mmmk.
03:35:07 <Steven> reach is over rated really.
03:35:50 <Steven> unless of course you're going with an enlarged all the time plan.
03:35:53 <Steven> then reach is fantastic
03:36:22 <Avatar> I really like reach
03:36:37 <Avatar> not in the small corners of course
03:36:48 <s_gmusic> opinion on these gloves if there's not a better option for the slot? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/e-g/gloves-first-aid
03:37:04 <Avatar> there's always a better option
03:37:18 <Steven> be aware those gloves are a consumable
03:37:27 <Steven> they eventually become non magical
03:39:10 <Avatar> wish paladins had perform as a class skill
03:39:26 <Steven> explain.
03:39:32 <s_gmusic> yeah, which is why I wanted opinions on them. I had the gold to spare on my Gunslinger running Eyes of Ten and figured they'd be a good Emergency Button in case Shit Happens. not sure if they'd be worthwhile for other characters, particularly those in the mid-levels.
03:39:55 <Avatar> !feat power attack
03:39:55 <diebot> Avatar, POWER ATTACK [Combat]Prereq: Str 13, base attack bonus +1. You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.
03:39:55 <diebot> Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your
03:39:55 <diebot> Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an
03:39:55 <diebot> attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage. Source: Core
03:40:33 <Steven> gunslinger eh...
03:41:37 <Steven> price limit
03:41:50 <s_gmusic> yeah, he's my first character in pathfinder, in society, and to level 12. :3
03:42:05 <Avatar> my gunslinger was my first to level 12 too
03:42:33 <Steven> did you ever perhaps pick up weapon finesse?
03:42:52 <s_gmusic> who?
03:42:53 <Avatar> fucking hell why did I pick sarenrae
03:43:10 <Steven> you gmusic
03:44:00 <s_gmusic> didn't see the need to. single-weapon Pistolero and I already use DEX for to-hit.
03:45:14 <Avatar> you aren't one of those pistoleros doing stupid damage are you
03:45:25 <Avatar> weapon cords etc
03:45:46 <Steven> no he covered that with single weapon pistolero
03:45:51 <s_gmusic> no. didn't even know about all that until about level 9 or 10. I did have a weapon cord so I wouldn't drop my gun, though
03:46:43 <Avatar> I miss my archaeologist's pistol :(
03:47:00 <Avatar> it's a pity 1d8 doesn't cut it at level 7
03:47:46 <Steven> thats why you take deadly aim.
03:47:48 <s_gmusic> but by then, you should have DEX to damage and a few other things like Deadly Aimm, right?
03:48:09 <Avatar> it was just one level of mysterious stranger
03:48:34 <s_gmusic> I didn't got TWF cord cheese, but I did make sure to take Improved Snap Shot. :3
03:49:56 <s_gmusic> next feat I get will be Deft Shootist. So I'll be making AoO within 15ft and not provoking myself. :D
03:50:46 <Steven> so, if you're going for utility
03:50:49 <Steven> for your glove slot
03:51:05 <Steven> Shadow Falconer’s Glove is a viable option
03:51:45 <Steven> 1/day disarm/steal at 30ft with a +16
03:52:24 <Steven> so you could steal a spell component pouch
03:52:40 <Steven> or take your weapon back from an enemy if they were to disarm you.
03:54:16 <s_gmusic> cool.
03:56:54 <Avatar> what kinds of energy can you choose for energy resistance
03:57:06 <Avatar> is it just fire/acid/cold/lightning
03:57:38 <s_gmusic> should be able to do Sonic as well
03:57:55 <Avatar> what about poison
03:58:34 <Avatar> wondering if energy resistance is worth it for favoured class option
03:59:03 <Avatar> probably not
04:03:04 <Steven> had to restart
04:03:10 <Avatar> WB
04:11:52 <Avatar> is there a trait that makes acrobatics a class skill
04:27:34 <Avatar> !item decoy ring
04:27:35 <diebot> Avatar, DECOY RING [moderate illusion] CL:11 ring 12000gp, 0lb
04:27:36 <diebot> This ring is a thick loop of mirrorlike metal. Whenever the wearer of this ring takes the withdraw action or becomes helpless (including falling unconscious), it instantly makes her invisible for 3 rounds and creates four illusory duplicates that either run off in opposite directions or perform other plausible actions that could draw enemy
04:27:36 <diebot> attention away from her. The duplicates last for 3 rounds before disappearing, but they instantly pop out of existence if struck by an attack (AC 10) and can be disbelieved (Will DC 19). Allies of the wearer always know her true location and can freely provide aid or assistance to her. Source: Ultimate Equipment
04:27:40 <Avatar> oh wait maybe diebot does have items
04:27:50 <Avatar> !item inheritor's gauntlet
04:27:50 <diebot> Avatar, IRON COBRA GAUNTLET [moderate transmutation] CL:7 hands 8000gp, 1lb
04:27:51 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/iron_cobra_gauntlet.html
04:27:55 <Avatar> some items
04:33:14 <Avatar> I think I need a greatsword after all
04:33:24 <Avatar> that's a shame
04:33:35 <Avatar> unless there's another sword that has reach
05:04:40 <anonDealer> interest
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05:04:57 <anonDealer> pls pm me
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05:06:10 <anonDealer> pls pm me if you have good knowledge and experience, i will also financially reimburse you for your time
05:06:26 <anonDealer> sick of being the middle man
05:07:01 <Brunius> Avatar
05:07:09 <anonDealer> Bruinus?
05:07:43 <anonDealer> pls understand i am in financial difficulty
05:08:15 <anonDealer> i need to know precisely how to and what lab equipment i need to buy
05:09:19 <anonDealer> anyone with a chemistry/chmical engineering background would be very handy to talk to
05:11:30 <Avatar> oops
05:12:24 <Brunius> I hope this isn't going to become a thing
05:14:41 <Avatar> it is a thing
05:15:19 <s_gmusic> !item first aid glvoes
05:15:19 <diebot> s_gmusic, FLASK OF CURSES [moderate conjuration] CL:7 none 0gp, 2lb
05:15:19 <diebot> This item looks like an ordinary beaker, bottle, container, decanter, flask, or jug. It may contain a liquid, or it may emit smoke. When the flask is first unstoppered, all within 30 feet must make a DC 17 Will save or be cursed, taking a -2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, and skill checks until a remove curse spell is cast upon them.
05:15:19 <diebot> Source: PFRPG Core
05:15:30 <s_gmusic> o-0
05:15:35 <s_gmusic> once again, without the typo
05:15:42 <s_gmusic> !item first aid gloves
05:15:42 <diebot> s_gmusic, RUBBLE GLOVES [faint transmutation] CL:5 hands 8000gp, 1lb
05:15:43 <diebot> These gloves are made of a fine metal mesh. If a creature wearing rubble gloves touches a 5-foot square of stone or earth floor, rubble roils to the surface, making the square difficult terrain. Using the gloves is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The wearer can use the gloves to create up to 20 squares of difficult
05:15:43 <diebot> terrain per day. Source: Advanced Race Guide
05:15:53 <s_gmusic> nope, guess not.
05:28:04 <Brunius> Besides which, you've never used it before
05:28:04 <s_gmusic> Twitch Plays Pokemon
05:28:04 <s_gmusic> but I get what you're seaying, brunius
05:30:47 <Brunius> oh yeah what's up with zapdos
05:30:47 <Brunius> one of my friends said he's a false prophet or something
05:30:47 <s_gmusic> no clue. none whatsoever. discussion of TPP has hit most places I visit, so wasn't sure if it landed here yet or not.
05:30:50 <Brunius> Yeah, I don't follow it much, but I pick up a bit from what my friends type ALL CAPS into our chat
05:47:06 <Brunius> classic chanop
06:10:58 <Avatar> if you don't want to run something, nobody is going to force you to
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06:23:17 <s_gmusic> that moment when you drop a pot of paint off your table and expect it to go everywhere, but it's a pot of Dry coating and no mess is made.
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07:16:38 <Mekkis> what the fuck is my VC smoking
07:28:23 <s_gmusic> hm?
07:30:04 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2qqbi?Reading-scenarios-before-playing-them-what
07:32:36 <s_gmusic> wat
07:32:57 <s_gmusic> which scenario?
07:33:10 <Mekkis> Destiny of the Sands II
07:35:03 <s_gmusic> oof a new one.
07:35:16 <Mekkis> yeah
07:36:11 <s_gmusic> kinda hate to say it, but I think it would be better to read it before hand so you're well prepared for weirdness, even though you're going to play it before running.
07:37:46 <s_gmusic> cause it seems to be coming down to "do I ruin it for myself or for my players?"
07:37:56 <Mekkis> perhaps
07:38:31 <Mekkis> or do I simply refuse to GM it on ethical grounds.
07:39:50 <s_gmusic> could you get out of playing? or is the table hard to fill?
07:40:24 <Mekkis> I don't know to be honest. The VC seems to have strange issues with organisation
07:41:09 <s_gmusic> that does sound weird that anyone would be put in that position.
07:41:19 <Mekkis> agreed.
07:41:34 <Mekkis> either that, or the culture around here is much more cavalier about that sort of thing
15:13:50 <Avatar> if you don't want to run something, nobody is going to force you to
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15:50:37 <Avatar> why do tieflings have to be so OP
15:50:47 <Yiroep> and aasimars. :p
15:56:11 <Mekkis> it's the alternate races
15:59:20 <Avatar> aasimars aren't as bad as tieflings
15:59:27 <Yiroep> How so?
15:59:38 <Avatar> tieflings regularly have the most optimal options
16:00:01 <Yiroep> Are you talking stat-wise solely?
16:00:20 <Avatar> tieflings, being described as "mortals stained with the blood of fiends" somehow have the best paladin favored class option
16:00:36 <Yiroep> Haha.
16:01:03 <Yiroep> I guess. Aasimars are pretty damn optimal as bards and oracles, though.
16:01:36 <Yiroep> Make great clerics and bloodragers, too.
17:24:12 <s_gmusic> Not bad for Gunslinger, either.
17:26:14 <s_gmusic> not counting the skills or SLAs, Musetouched would be a Mysterious Stranger (DEX/CHA) and Plumekith for Pistolero or other gunslinger builds (DEX/WIS)
17:28:45 <Yiroep> Ahhh...mysterious stranger.
17:28:53 <Yiroep> The 1 level dip gunslinger wonder. :p
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17:45:47 <s_gmusic> Yeah. Kinda silly when you have to dip 5 levels for any other non-stranger gun build. :\
17:57:56 <Steven> im back!
17:58:12 <Steven> so whatcha doin with your paladin sir?
17:59:44 <Steven> why do you need 13 dex?
18:02:37 <Mekkis> !spell crafter's fortune
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18:05:44 <Mekkis> !spell crafter's fortune
18:05:48 <diebot> Mekkis, CRAFTER'S FORTUNE transmutation ([]) alchemist 1, sorcerer/wizard 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one creature Comp: V, S, F (a tool) Duration: 1 day/level or until discharged (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yes (harmless)Source: APG
18:05:49 <diebot> The target is struck by inspiration and gains a +5 luck bonus on its next Craft skill check.
18:08:03 <PetrolSniffer> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
18:08:07 <PetrolSniffer> its d n ddddddddddddddddddddddddd
18:11:30 <Avatar> I don't want 13 dex
18:11:33 <Avatar> I just had a spare point leftover
18:11:45 <Steven> why dex at all?
18:12:24 <Avatar> 12 dex to have +1 AC with platemail
18:13:45 <Avatar> is that not worth it
18:14:05 <Avatar> bit of reflex bit of initiative as well
18:14:13 <Avatar> probably 2 or 3 points better spent elsewhere
18:14:38 <Steven> meh
18:14:48 <Steven> you get cha to saves
18:15:34 <Avatar> is 15 cha a good plan, to bump to 16 at 4th
18:15:55 * Steven shrugs
18:16:04 <Avatar> do you need cha before 4th
18:16:04 <Steven> i'd go a little different
18:16:23 <Steven> but really its not a big deal
18:16:55 <Avatar> 16 10 14 12 7 16
18:17:02 <Avatar> er, 15 cha
18:17:03 <Steven> are you trying to do big fatty damage?
18:17:12 <Avatar> yeah trying to survive in melee
18:17:24 <Avatar> that 16 gets bumped to 18 with human
18:18:00 <Steven> i'd prolly go like 15/10/16/12/7/16
18:18:08 <Steven> bump str at 4th
18:18:17 <Steven> thats with mods.
18:18:19 <Avatar> what am I missing that paladins use cha for
18:18:36 <Steven> saves, spells, smite bonus to hit.
18:18:46 <Avatar> smite, divine grace and lay on hands uses
18:18:56 <Steven> yeah
18:19:11 <Steven> of course if i was building a paladin... it would be pretty janky.
18:19:43 <Avatar> I don't think that adds up?
18:19:52 <Avatar> 7+0+10+2-4+10
18:20:14 <Avatar> that's 25
18:20:33 <Avatar> works with a 14 con but not 16
18:20:36 <Steven> read what i said agin.
18:20:52 <Avatar> oh
18:21:05 <Avatar> str is a bit low there
18:21:13 <Steven> If i were building i'd go with 14/10/16/12/8/18
18:21:30 <Avatar> shit really
18:21:50 <Steven> paladins dont really need a high str since they have smite.
18:22:37 <Steven> ~95% of all BBEG's are Evil
18:23:46 <Avatar> alright I will run with that
18:24:48 <Steven> the real benefit of paladin is the divine grace
18:25:02 <Steven> swift action healing is totally boss mode
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18:25:14 <Avatar> yeah my saves look a lot sexier now than they did 5 minutes ago
18:25:19 <Steven> and having spells that can keep you from dying is stupid good.
18:25:36 <Steven> hero's defiance so OP
18:25:54 <Steven> specially when coupled with Fey Foundling
18:26:01 <Avatar> !feat hero's defiance
18:26:02 <diebot> Avatar, HEROIC DEFIANCE []Prereq: Diehard, Endurance, base Fortitude save +8. You struggle on when others would fall.
18:26:02 <diebot> Benefit: Once per day as an immediate action you can delay the onset of one harmful condition or affliction (such as panicked, paralyzed, stunned, and so on), including permanent and instantaneous conditions. Activating this feat delays the onset of the condition until the end of your next turn, after which time the condition takes its normal
18:26:02 <diebot> effect. This feat has no effect on hit point damage or ability damage. Source: APG
18:26:19 <Steven> its a spell
18:26:23 <Steven> !spell hero's defiance
18:26:23 <diebot> Steven, HERO'S DEFIANCE conjuration (healing[]) paladin 1 1 immediate action Range: personal you Comp: V Duration: instantaneous Save: SR:Source: APG
18:26:24 <diebot> The instant before you are reduced to 0 or fewer hit points, you can expend a use of your lay on hands ability to heal yourself as if you had used lay on hands, plus an additional 1d6 hit points. If this healing brings your hit point total above 0 hit points, you do not fall, and may continue to act. If you have no more uses of lay on hands this
18:26:24 <diebot> spell has no effect.
18:26:35 <Avatar> holy shit
18:26:47 <Steven> yeah
18:27:18 <Avatar> do you know if I'm able to select another race's weapon
18:27:27 <Avatar> I want to use a horsechopper
18:27:36 <Steven> yeah, if its legal to buy you can buy it.
18:27:54 <Avatar> I've never heard of anyone taking it before, which seems strange because it's a good weapon
18:28:03 <Avatar> reach, 1d10, x3
18:28:08 <Steven> yeah its not bad.
18:28:17 <Steven> Fauchard is better imo.
18:28:56 <Avatar> obscure book
18:29:20 <Avatar> I'm banking on a x3 crit
18:29:21 <Steven> oh wait, horse chopper martial huh
18:30:30 <s_gmusic> are items in the bot yet?
18:30:34 <Steven> if you're going for x3 crit, i'd say earthbreaker all the way
18:31:34 <Avatar> doesn't have reach
18:31:50 <Avatar> diebot doesn't have items
18:32:02 <s_gmusic> mmmk.
18:32:14 <Steven> reach is over rated really.
18:32:57 <Steven> unless of course you're going with an enlarged all the time plan.
18:33:00 <Steven> then reach is fantastic
18:33:29 <Avatar> I really like reach
18:33:44 <Avatar> not in the small corners of course
18:33:55 <s_gmusic> opinion on these gloves if there's not a better option for the slot? http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/e-g/gloves-first-aid
18:34:11 <Avatar> there's always a better option
18:34:26 <Steven> be aware those gloves are a consumable
18:34:34 <Steven> they eventually become non magical
18:36:17 <Avatar> wish paladins had perform as a class skill
18:36:33 <Steven> explain.
18:36:39 <s_gmusic> yeah, which is why I wanted opinions on them. I had the gold to spare on my Gunslinger running Eyes of Ten and figured they'd be a good Emergency Button in case Shit Happens. not sure if they'd be worthwhile for other characters, particularly those in the mid-levels.
18:37:02 <Avatar> !feat power attack
18:37:02 <diebot> Avatar, POWER ATTACK [Combat]Prereq: Str 13, base attack bonus +1. You can make exceptionally deadly melee attacks by sacrificing accuracy for strength.
18:37:03 <diebot> Benefit: You can choose to take a –1 penalty on all melee attack rolls and combat maneuver checks to gain a +2 bonus on all melee damage rolls. This bonus to damage is increased by half (+50%) if you are making an attack with a two-handed weapon, a one handed weapon using two hands, or a primary natural weapon that adds 1-1/2 times your
18:37:03 <diebot> Strength modifier on damage rolls. This bonus to damage is halved (–50%) if you are making an attack with an off-hand weapon or secondary natural weapon. When your base attack bonus reaches +4, and every 4 points thereafter, the penalty increases by –1 and the bonus to damage increases by +2. You must choose to use this feat before making an
18:37:03 <diebot> attack roll, and its effects last until your next turn. The bonus damage does not apply to touch attacks or effects that do not deal hit point damage. Source: Core
18:37:40 <Steven> gunslinger eh...
18:38:45 <Steven> price limit
18:38:57 <s_gmusic> yeah, he's my first character in pathfinder, in society, and to level 12. :3
18:39:13 <Avatar> my gunslinger was my first to level 12 too
18:39:40 <Steven> did you ever perhaps pick up weapon finesse?
18:39:59 <s_gmusic> who?
18:40:00 <Avatar> fucking hell why did I pick sarenrae
18:40:18 <Steven> you gmusic
18:40:41 <FAYE253> play first-rate combate game JUMBASTIC MAGEGO
18:41:07 <s_gmusic> didn't see the need to. single-weapon Pistolero and I already use DEX for to-hit.
18:42:21 <Avatar> you aren't one of those pistoleros doing stupid damage are you
18:42:32 <Avatar> weapon cords etc
18:42:53 <Steven> no he covered that with single weapon pistolero
18:42:58 <s_gmusic> no. didn't even know about all that until about level 9 or 10. I did have a weapon cord so I wouldn't drop my gun, though
18:43:50 <Avatar> I miss my archaeologist's pistol :(
18:44:07 <Avatar> it's a pity 1d8 doesn't cut it at level 7
18:44:53 <Steven> thats why you take deadly aim.
18:44:55 <s_gmusic> but by then, you should have DEX to damage and a few other things like Deadly Aimm, right?
18:45:16 <Avatar> it was just one level of mysterious stranger
18:45:41 <s_gmusic> I didn't got TWF cord cheese, but I did make sure to take Improved Snap Shot. :3
18:47:03 <s_gmusic> next feat I get will be Deft Shootist. So I'll be making AoO within 15ft and not provoking myself. :D
18:47:53 <Steven> so, if you're going for utility
18:47:56 <Steven> for your glove slot
18:48:12 <Steven> Shadow Falconer’s Glove is a viable option
18:48:52 <Steven> 1/day disarm/steal at 30ft with a +16
18:49:31 <Steven> so you could steal a spell component pouch
18:49:47 <Steven> or take your weapon back from an enemy if they were to disarm you.
18:51:23 <s_gmusic> cool.
18:53:00 <Brunius> Philderbeast: Are you going to festival?
18:54:01 <Avatar> what kinds of energy can you choose for energy resistance
18:54:13 <Avatar> is it just fire/acid/cold/lightning
18:54:45 <s_gmusic> should be able to do Sonic as well
18:55:02 <Avatar> what about poison
18:55:41 <Avatar> wondering if energy resistance is worth it for favoured class option
18:56:10 <Avatar> probably not
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19:08:59 <Avatar> is there a trait that makes acrobatics a class skill
19:24:41 <Avatar> !item decoy ring
19:24:42 <diebot> Avatar, DECOY RING [moderate illusion] CL:11 ring 12000gp, 0lb
19:24:43 <diebot> This ring is a thick loop of mirrorlike metal. Whenever the wearer of this ring takes the withdraw action or becomes helpless (including falling unconscious), it instantly makes her invisible for 3 rounds and creates four illusory duplicates that either run off in opposite directions or perform other plausible actions that could draw enemy
19:24:43 <diebot> attention away from her. The duplicates last for 3 rounds before disappearing, but they instantly pop out of existence if struck by an attack (AC 10) and can be disbelieved (Will DC 19). Allies of the wearer always know her true location and can freely provide aid or assistance to her. Source: Ultimate Equipment
19:24:47 <Avatar> oh wait maybe diebot does have items
19:24:57 <Avatar> !item inheritor's gauntlet
19:24:57 <diebot> Avatar, IRON COBRA GAUNTLET [moderate transmutation] CL:7 hands 8000gp, 1lb
19:24:58 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/items/iron_cobra_gauntlet.html
19:25:02 <Avatar> some items
19:30:21 <Avatar> I think I need a greatsword after all
19:30:31 <Avatar> that's a shame
19:30:42 <Avatar> unless there's another sword that has reach
20:12:26 <s_gmusic> !item first aid glvoes
20:12:26 <diebot> s_gmusic, FLASK OF CURSES [moderate conjuration] CL:7 none 0gp, 2lb
20:12:26 <diebot> This item looks like an ordinary beaker, bottle, container, decanter, flask, or jug. It may contain a liquid, or it may emit smoke. When the flask is first unstoppered, all within 30 feet must make a DC 17 Will save or be cursed, taking a -2 penalty on attack rolls, saving throws, and skill checks until a remove curse spell is cast upon them.
20:12:27 <diebot> Source: PFRPG Core
20:12:37 <s_gmusic> o-0
20:12:42 <s_gmusic> once again, without the typo
20:12:49 <s_gmusic> !item first aid gloves
20:12:49 <diebot> s_gmusic, RUBBLE GLOVES [faint transmutation] CL:5 hands 8000gp, 1lb
20:12:50 <diebot> These gloves are made of a fine metal mesh. If a creature wearing rubble gloves touches a 5-foot square of stone or earth floor, rubble roils to the surface, making the square difficult terrain. Using the gloves is a standard action that does not provoke attacks of opportunity. The wearer can use the gloves to create up to 20 squares of difficult
20:12:50 <diebot> terrain per day. Source: Advanced Race Guide
20:13:00 <s_gmusic> nope, guess not.
21:44:37 <Rodriguez> hi guys
21:44:40 <Rodriguez> thanks guys
21:44:43 <Rodriguez> bye guys
21:44:52 <Steven> quick in and out
21:45:02 <Rodriguez> yep a quickie :)
21:45:07 <Steven> sup sup
21:45:10 <Steven> rikki?
21:45:22 <Rodriguez> rikkie lake?
21:45:28 <Rodriguez> nah i dont watch that crap
21:45:29 <Steven> dat ass
21:45:47 <Rodriguez> holy smoke, some guys doing burnouts in front of my house
21:45:48 <Rodriguez> beb
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23:25:57 <s_gmusic> sometimes, I wonder if murica is really as bad as the internet makes it out to be, then I see this: http://i.imgur.com/JPoWLEx.jpg
23:26:27 <Steven> fish sandwich
23:26:30 <Steven> nom nom nom
23:28:45 <brint> oh man
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