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00:05:33 <Darkkapow> hellknight commander
00:05:38 <Darkkapow> is what you want to go
00:06:05 <Darkkapow> no extra caster levels
00:06:14 <Darkkapow> but it's the better of the 2 in general
00:06:48 <Darkkapow> my samurai for PFS is going Sword Saint 5 Hellknight the rest of the way
00:07:09 <Darkkapow> and going Fearsome as first order
00:07:17 <Darkkapow> to make everything frightened using dazzling display
00:07:41 <Darkkapow> that and order for the gate :P
00:07:50 <Darkkapow> lets just have some demons to help us
00:07:53 <Darkkapow> it won't hurt
00:07:54 <Darkkapow> trust me
00:11:40 <Spaceshot> depends what you want kapow
00:12:07 <Darkkapow> yeah is true
00:12:10 <Darkkapow> i just mean in general
00:12:14 <Yiroep> Hopefully a Hellknight is summoning devils and not demons. :p
00:12:21 <s_gmusic> ^
00:12:24 <Spaceshot> sanctifier has spellcaster improvement
00:12:24 <Darkkapow> what it gives you as a martial class vs what signifier gives you as a semi caster
00:12:39 <Darkkapow> hellknight gives better to martials
00:12:46 <Darkkapow> than signifer gives to casters
00:12:46 <Spaceshot> and the gazes can be useful
00:12:58 <Spaceshot> true
00:13:20 <Spaceshot> but sanctifier gives better to melee casters than hellknight does
00:26:46 <Darkkapow> like i said just martials and casters in general
00:27:00 <Spaceshot> mmm
00:29:15 <Spaceshot> I need to stop thinking that casters must always try and get as much casting ability as possible
00:31:38 <s_gmusic> bah, snow outside. be back in 15-20.
00:54:52 <Spaceshot> wow lunar is powerful
00:55:14 <Spaceshot> a companion (good choices of ones) and replace dex with cha for AC and reflex?
00:55:21 <Spaceshot> don't really need anything else
00:56:40 <Yiroep> Yes. The biggest downside is their mystery spells are pretty crappy, but those can be easily replaced with an archetype.
00:56:56 <Yiroep> The Stargazer archetype is both flavorful and pretty good for replacements.
01:15:59 <Spaceshot> yup, cheese all the way
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05:38:34 <Haksoldier> EUZUBILLAHIMINEÞÞEYTANIRRACIM BISMILLAHIRRAHMANIRRAHIM
05:38:35 <Haksoldier> ALLAHU EKBERRRRR! LA ÝLAHE ÝLLALLAH MUHAMMEDEN RESULULLAH!
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05:39:36 <Yiroep> Every day about this time.
05:47:47 <Avatar> awake with nothing to do
05:48:42 * Avatar sets ban on *!*sLamattaCk@*
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06:18:52 <Avatar> okay dynamic lighting is pretty awesome
06:19:12 <Yiroep> What are you looking at? Roll20?
06:21:14 <Avatar> yeah
06:21:31 <Avatar> had dramas getting it to work last night
06:22:13 <Yiroep> My main problem is it's hard to look around corners with it, which is something assumed you can do in Pathfinder, since you're assumed to be in any part of your square.
06:22:18 <Yiroep> But I really do like the idea.
06:23:06 <Avatar> easy enough to temporarily move your token around the corner to get a peep
06:23:15 <Yiroep> Yeah, true.
06:24:26 <Yiroep> I played First Steps Part 2 with dynamic lighting and it was pretty awesome.
06:25:07 <Avatar> what does enforce line of sight do
06:25:18 <Avatar> does that mean you can only see your own token's sight rather than the party's sight
06:26:33 <Yiroep> Not sure.
06:26:41 <Yiroep> When I played we could only see what our character could see.
06:29:40 <Avatar> can't really work out how to do where torchlight becomes dim light
06:29:55 <Avatar> I've entered it in and it's not really doing it for some reason
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06:59:32 <GreenGuy33> hey there. :)
07:00:41 <Yiroep> Hi.
07:00:54 <GreenGuy33> hows things going?
07:01:40 <Yiroep> Alright...what's up?
07:02:32 <GreenGuy33> not much. finally got around to checking the chat.
07:02:37 <Avatar> finally !
07:03:32 <GreenGuy33> yeah a lot happened since last i was around.
07:04:43 <GreenGuy33> ive forgotten pretty much everything about pathfinder. lol
07:08:28 <GreenGuy33> not that thats a good thing but i kinda have to laugh at myself about my bad memory.
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07:13:40 <Avatar> jesus we've got superhot weather until monday
07:17:34 <GreenGuy33> ill trade you for the blizzard ive got here.
07:22:19 <GreenGuy33> 6 inches of snow in under 15 minutes.
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07:58:51 <Yiroep> There, updated my scenarios.
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10:44:12 <Steven> SUUUUUUUUUUUUUP
10:44:15 <Steven> im back
10:44:45 <Steven> filled my dads wood box, got a marvelous 7 hours of sleep, did some errands.
10:44:55 <Steven> have no headache.
10:44:57 <Steven> BOOSH!
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11:27:06 <Damalon01> good morning
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12:12:29 <Mekkis> moin
12:43:00 <Steven> so freakin boring right now
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14:11:37 <Damalon01> Yay im back
14:11:43 <Damalon01> you there Mekkis?
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15:39:21 <Steven> selling to a store i can afford to go to Gencon by just selling cards i dont use.
15:39:31 <Steven> that is just silly.
15:39:32 <Steven> lol
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15:39:43 <conja> pardon me guys
15:39:58 <conja> im just getting my daily dose of jizz
15:40:06 <conja> i mean d n d
15:40:09 <conja> ddddddd n ddddddddddddddd
15:40:12 <conja> dynamiteeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
15:40:31 <conja> yo lets party for 4 minutes
15:40:38 <conja> the party animal is here
15:40:41 <conja> d n dddddddddddddddddddd
15:40:47 <conja> .me headbangs
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15:48:51 <Bobo> howdy
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15:50:10 <Brunius> sup
15:50:49 <Bobo> So you guys actually play society games online?
15:52:31 <Steven> yup
15:52:44 <Bobo> that's pretty cool.
15:52:55 <Bobo> I assume theres a FAQ on your site before I go asking a bunch of dumb questions
15:55:07 <Bobo> yup, now reading!
15:58:14 <Darkkapow> quick
15:58:27 <Darkkapow> i need to know what is the cleric archetype that gets bardic performance
15:59:06 <Steven> evangalist
15:59:13 <Steven> what do i win?
16:00:18 <Darkkapow> among the living on the 1st of March 10:00 AEDT
16:00:24 <Darkkapow> schedule it please avatar
16:01:30 <Bobo> enjoyable scenario that one
16:02:02 <Bobo> is there any way I could see a filled character sheet?
16:02:11 <Bobo> the class recorder part is confusing me a little
16:02:23 <Brunius> !findchar Nephem
16:02:32 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Nephem, number: 562( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=562 )
16:02:37 <Bobo> thanks
16:02:51 <Brunius> Then click CHARACTER SHEET
16:02:59 <Brunius> Note that that's not a society compliant character
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16:04:45 <Darkkapow> going to make an evangelist instead of a barb steven
16:04:50 <Darkkapow> for what i was talking about :P
16:05:44 <Bobo> I already have a society compliant character Brunius, I just wasnt entirely sure what certain boxes were referring to, think I have it now.
16:06:09 <Avatar> Bobo: we like dumb questions
16:06:26 <Bobo> well then clearly you're not an IRC channel then
16:06:27 <Bobo> :P
16:06:57 <Avatar> where you located?
16:07:00 <Steven> no we are an awesome IRC channel
16:07:36 <Bobo> I'm in Perth
16:07:36 <Avatar> Darkkapow: you can't be serious
16:07:44 <Avatar> I just managed to get someone else to run that for me
16:08:08 <Avatar> on the 14th I'm playing among the gods, on the 21st I'm playing among the living
16:08:31 <Brunius> hehe
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16:09:28 <Philderbeast> where can i find the pfs info for acanacon?
16:09:34 <Philderbeast> i just saw the sessions on warhorn
16:10:25 <Avatar> what pfs info
16:10:44 <Philderbeast> wow i cant read never mind i had the dates all kinds of wrong
16:12:38 <Avatar> among the gods: https://warhorn.net/events/pfs-online-cst/schedule/2014/02/14
16:12:47 <Avatar> it's downerbeautiful's game
16:13:00 <Philderbeast> driving to melb that day
16:14:03 <Avatar> nice
16:14:13 <Avatar> https://warhorn.net/events/pfs-online-cst/schedule/2014/02/21
16:14:23 <Philderbeast> ill be at box kill on the 16th, hopefully i can get a seat at a table, if not i might run something if needed
16:14:37 <Bobo> So why this combat assistant thing? just easy to prepare?
16:14:43 <Bobo> I half expected roll20
16:14:53 <Brunius> We were using CA before roll20 was popular
16:14:59 <Bobo> ah ok
16:18:17 <Avatar> it is easy to prepare
16:18:28 <Avatar> you load maps, align them, then that's it
16:18:43 <Philderbeast> meh i find roll 20 just as easy....
16:18:53 <Avatar> you have to prep tokens
16:18:53 <Philderbeast> but6 i guess its just what im use to
16:18:55 <Bobo> yeah if you have the maps premade then I guess roll20 wouldnt be too hard
16:18:59 <Avatar> you have to put borders around all the walls
16:19:04 <Bobo> ah yeah
16:19:04 <Avatar> you have to ensure there's no gaps
16:19:11 <Philderbeast> i dont use the lighting so no need for that
16:19:12 <Avatar> you have to test player tokens
16:19:21 <Avatar> you have to test the lighting man
16:19:30 <Bobo> surprised you can't save scenarios
16:19:31 <Avatar> that's roll20's real selling point
16:19:32 <Philderbeast> just drop the tokens on and im done
16:19:47 <Bobo> so people could re-use maps others have made for society games
16:19:47 <Philderbeast> you can save the on roll20
16:19:55 <Avatar> yeah you can save them on both
16:19:58 <Bobo> nice
16:20:02 <Philderbeast> but its only for you, so unless you explicitly share them
16:20:08 <Philderbeast> others cant use them
16:20:12 <Bobo> i've been working with a friend on a set of dungeon tiles for use in roll20 for a while now
16:20:17 <Bobo> we're almost ready to release them
16:20:53 <Avatar> Philderbeast: polygon revealing becomes redundant with lighting
16:21:01 <Avatar> looks and feels better too
16:21:11 <Philderbeast> true but its a lot of work to set up and i dont have a paied account at the moment
16:21:23 <Avatar> yeah fair enough, that's what you'd be paying for
16:21:32 <Avatar> it increases atmosphere 1000%
16:21:55 <Philderbeast> yea i am going to get it when my campaign moves on to it, but no point for most PFS scenarios
16:22:03 <Avatar> are you playing on friday?
16:22:13 <Philderbeast> nar i have a rise of the rune lords session then
16:22:21 <Avatar> have you already played traitor's lodge
16:22:24 <Philderbeast> last one before i head to melbourne
16:22:28 <Philderbeast> no i havent
16:22:32 <Avatar> ug can't show you then
16:22:43 <Philderbeast> still having issues with the maps?
16:22:47 <Avatar> no
16:22:54 <Avatar> this morning was the first time I said wow, once I worked out dynamic lighting
16:23:02 <Philderbeast> nice
16:23:10 <Bobo> How do you guys prepare statblocks for your home-games?
16:23:12 <Avatar> for such a simple thing it makes a pretty big difference in terms of environment
16:23:23 <Avatar> download them from the GM shared prep drive
16:23:25 <Brunius> I write them on sticky notes then put the sticky notes in the AP
16:23:25 <Philderbeast> i have played on a table using it well it was really nide
16:23:34 <Bobo> isnt it a lot to write down brunius?
16:23:48 <Brunius> Not so far
16:23:51 <Brunius> it might be at higher levels
16:23:54 <Bobo> yeah
16:23:57 <Avatar> it's done for you online
16:24:08 <Bobo> i made a little template to input statblocks into to make them easier to read
16:24:12 <Bobo> but i hate sitting there filling them
16:24:14 <Philderbeast> i either look at my beastiary book or have a printed statblock
16:24:30 <Bobo> I just find all the online statblocks dont output neatly philder
16:24:43 <Philderbeast> if i need to make one for something i make it in herolab and print from here
16:24:44 <Philderbeast> threre
16:25:19 <Bobo> yeah but the herolab statblock output is all wide and stuff
16:25:19 <Bobo> :P
16:25:26 <Bobo> I'm just picky and lazy i guess
16:25:29 <Bobo> two things that dont go well
16:25:30 <Philderbeast> im happy with 1 stat block per page
16:25:58 <Philderbeast> since all my stuff is run off an a4 printed and bound copy i just put them in there
16:27:09 <Bobo> hmm
16:27:17 <Bobo> i just found a nice custom herolab statblock
16:27:18 <Bobo> http://puu.sh/6KAcS.png
16:27:52 <Philderbeast> not my pick, but if it works for you
16:28:14 <Bobo> i just find the basic output hard to read
16:28:19 <Bobo> not that that one is much better
16:28:56 <Bobo> this is the one i made:
16:28:57 <Bobo> http://puu.sh/6KAhH.png
16:29:09 <Bobo> but its a paint to fill out for every damn npc
16:29:24 <Philderbeast> let me upload the output im using
16:29:35 <Theta> Does PFS allow the elemental races at all? Sylph, Ifrit, Undine, etc?
16:29:51 <Philderbeast> only with a boon
16:30:00 <Theta> boon?
16:30:03 <Philderbeast> bobo you should be able to get portfolios for most of them already
16:30:10 <Avatar> I have an ifrit boon and an undine boon if you have something else to trade
16:30:20 <Bobo> yeah i can, i just find the herolab outputs hard to read
16:30:27 <Philderbeast> at conventions you can get a player boon that gives you access to something you would not normally have access to
16:30:41 <Theta> ooh
16:30:43 <Philderbeast> ir might be a race or a bonus for the character in some other way
16:31:00 <Philderbeast> http://philderbeast.com/pathfinder/Characters/95490-2/Owen_Fitz_Gibbon.htm use the drop down to change to stat block
16:31:41 <Bobo> doesnt load :\
16:31:42 <Avatar> 404
16:31:44 <Theta> I wanted to make an Undine witch. Found some really mean combos.
16:32:10 <Philderbeast> hmmm its working for me...
16:32:35 <Avatar> danno what to tellya
16:33:02 <Philderbeast> http://forums.wolflair.com/showthread.php?t=21943
16:33:05 <Philderbeast> thats the thread for it
16:33:16 <Theta> Link worked for me
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16:36:04 <Bobo> hah
16:36:05 <Bobo> philderbeast
16:36:07 <Bobo> thanks
16:36:11 <Bobo> i had that custom sheet
16:36:16 <Bobo> but never tried switching it to statblock
16:36:20 <Philderbeast> lol
16:36:25 <Bobo> that's exactly what i was after
16:36:26 <Philderbeast> thats what i use for all my characters
16:36:47 <Philderbeast> not normally the statblock otput but its a nice touch
16:37:26 <Avatar> a refresh of that 404 page now works
16:37:43 <Avatar> maybe two people can't load it at the same time
16:37:49 <Avatar> it can't handle 2 simultaneous page loads
16:38:15 <Avatar> is that a herolab sheet?
16:40:32 <Damalon01> is there a Mekkis in da house?
16:41:57 <Damalon01> by the way Avatar which tier do ya think we are playing Traitors lodge at? Im thinking 3-4 at the moment from the list of players on the site
16:43:36 <Darkkapow> I have decided that being able to craft pearls of power in slumbering tsar
16:43:41 <Darkkapow> is incredibly useful
16:43:53 <Philderbeast> yea its a hero lab sheet
16:44:09 <Philderbeast> it can definatly handle more then that might have been just because i was stil uploading it
16:44:16 <Avatar> pretty certainly 3-4 by the look of it
16:46:16 <Damalon01> cewl my Sorcerer will level from that :)
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16:56:10 <Mekkis> I'm in the house
16:56:42 <Mekkis> Damalon01
17:00:26 <Damalon01> yo!
17:00:57 <Damalon01> wanna handle the intro for wotw tonight?
17:01:39 <Mekkis> sounds good. I've just been making the finishing touches
17:04:12 <Damalon01> awesome
17:04:21 <Damalon01> after dinner maybe?
17:04:54 <Mekkis> sounds good
17:04:58 <Damalon01> :)
17:30:24 * Mekkis is resisting the urge to write something he shouldn't on the forums
17:30:36 <Avatar> about what
17:30:40 <Avatar> faction missions yeah
17:30:49 <Mekkis> yeah
17:31:11 <Avatar> just write it, it's just your opinion
17:31:18 <Avatar> be diplomatic
17:31:40 <Mekkis> "If writing eight faction missions per scenario is such a challenge, and you now don't have to do it, why have you been releasing LESS season 5 scenarios than you did when you were releasing season 4 scenarios?"
17:31:54 <Avatar> the scenarios got longer
17:32:05 <Avatar> I think
17:32:08 <Mekkis> if you can find a diplomatic way of writing that, feel free.
17:32:26 <Avatar> the answer is the rest of the work they're doing
17:32:42 <Avatar> don't capitalise LESS
17:32:58 <Mekkis> I think I'll just skip over that point
17:33:30 <Avatar> ask like you're genuinely curious rather than angry
17:33:38 <Avatar> it's hard, I know
17:34:14 <Mekkis> the only way to do that would be to create a new account
17:34:31 <Mekkis> maybe that's an idea.
17:34:59 <Mekkis> create six or seven accounts, report a few games...
17:35:03 <Avatar> why would you need to create a new account
17:37:20 <Mekkis> Darkwhite has informed me that Brock has a long memory.
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17:37:48 <Avatar> i'm sure he'll get over it
17:37:55 <Spaceshot> NEVER!
17:37:57 <Spaceshot> wait...
17:38:00 <Mekkis> I'm sure he won't if I keep bringing it up
17:38:04 <Spaceshot> what are we talking about?
17:38:11 <Mekkis> you don't Need to Know
17:38:30 <Spaceshot> I doubt most people in this channel also don't need to know
17:38:35 <Spaceshot> but I am curious
17:38:37 <Mekkis> you don't Need to Know
17:38:43 <Avatar> well where were you 5 minutes ago
17:38:47 <Spaceshot> Avatar: wish to give me the simple/easy answer?
17:38:54 <Avatar> faction missions
17:39:13 <Avatar> I don't think I have a way to tell players what the faction mission is this friday
17:39:15 <Spaceshot> I wasn't on the computer, why?
17:39:17 <Avatar> it's not mentioned anywhere in the scenario
17:39:30 <Spaceshot> faction mission?
17:39:35 <Avatar> yeah
17:39:37 <Spaceshot> you mean the handout things?
17:39:40 <Mekkis> no
17:39:43 <Mekkis> it's season 5
17:39:45 <Avatar> there's no handouts in season 5 for faction missions
17:39:51 <Spaceshot> oh season 5
17:39:59 <Mekkis> it's simple
17:40:02 <Avatar> I know what needs to be done, but players have no way of knowing
17:40:03 <Spaceshot> no idea, maybe take a squiz at the pfs forums
17:40:07 <Spaceshot> they might have an answer
17:40:12 <Avatar> they dont'
17:40:13 <Mekkis> there's the faction letter
17:40:26 <Mekkis> If I were playing a Grand Lodge character, I'd read it
17:40:30 <Avatar> I don't think it'll be in the faction letter
17:40:40 <Mekkis> Since I'm not, I'll probably read it, and try to do the opposite
17:40:45 <Avatar> it's not altogether difficult, really
17:40:47 <Spaceshot> I bet some missions you're not exactly meant to know what the scenario is about
17:40:51 <Avatar> just an above and beyond thing
17:40:59 <Mekkis> so a Secondary Success?
17:41:02 <Avatar> but that's exactly what pisses me off about the new system
17:41:08 <Avatar> the not-knowing
17:41:20 <Avatar> you get paranoia from it
17:41:23 <Spaceshot> avatar, you are meant to know how to get your 1xp, and thus your 1 PP
17:41:40 <Spaceshot> the second PP is meant to be found out via doing intelligent things (usually)
17:41:46 <Spaceshot> not just railroaded into you
17:41:49 <Avatar> there is no way to know this one
17:42:15 <Avatar> in other games it's been a matter of I hope I've done enough, but just in case, let's do more
17:42:21 <Avatar> and more and more and more and more x6 hours
17:42:33 <Spaceshot> sure
17:42:43 <Avatar> I get that it's meant to be explore report cooperate but it's not fun if you don't know what you're meant to be doing
17:42:59 <Spaceshot> I think they want season 5 to be less railroaded
17:43:01 <Spaceshot> than previous seasons
17:43:09 <Avatar> it's still railroaded
17:43:12 <Spaceshot> to the capabilities of PFS
17:43:20 <Avatar> as much or as little as it ever was
17:43:28 <Mekkis> I think that they want season 5 to be more /involved/ than previous seasons
17:43:30 <Avatar> it's got nothing to do with that
17:43:36 <Spaceshot> yea what mekkis said
17:43:41 <Avatar> involved how
17:43:46 <Mekkis> intricate.
17:43:54 <Mekkis> closely tied into metaplot
17:44:04 <Spaceshot> Avatar, if I asked the right question to the right NPC, would I be told, even if vague, what the faction mission is?
17:44:05 <Avatar> well at the cost of paranoia over fun, I'm not sure it's worth it
17:44:12 <Avatar> no
17:44:17 <Spaceshot> I doubt that
17:44:19 <Avatar> there is no way you could know
17:44:40 <Avatar> once you play the scenario and you're told what it is, you'll be bleeding your ears off
17:44:45 <Mekkis> Avatar, if I asked the correct questions in a /Divination/ or /Commune/ spell, would I get an idea?
17:44:56 <Avatar> yeah probably
17:45:01 <Avatar> but that's divine intervention
17:45:06 <Avatar> I mean it can't be that hard, surely
17:45:25 <Mekkis> If I cast a /wish/ spell, would I know what the faction mission was?
17:45:31 <Avatar> ha
17:45:39 <Avatar> you would BUT THERE WOULD BE A CATCH !
17:45:44 <Mekkis> (Would Limited Wish be sufficient?)
17:45:55 <Spaceshot> what level is the scenario?
17:45:59 <Avatar> 3-7
17:46:23 <Spaceshot> 5-09 The Traitor’s Lodge?
17:46:27 <Mekkis> I have a character who WOULD use a Limited Wish that way
17:46:32 <Avatar> yep
17:46:35 <Mekkis> Well, not a limited one
17:46:39 <Avatar> doesn't limited wish cost $$
17:46:46 <Mekkis> yes
17:46:54 <Avatar> not worth it chief
17:47:08 <Mekkis> of course not. The guy's Andoran
17:47:12 <Avatar> !spell limited wish
17:47:22 <diebot> Avatar, LIMITED WISH universal ([]) sorcerer/wizard 7 1 standard action Range: see text see text Comp: V, S, M (diamond worth 1,500 gp) Duration: see text Save: none; see text SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
17:47:23 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/limited_wish.html
17:47:25 <Mekkis> as wish, but with limitations
17:48:35 <Damalon01> im finished with dinner now boss, I am at you command
17:48:46 <Mekkis> I haven't. Sorry.
17:48:57 <Avatar> can limited wish only duplicate spells
17:49:01 <Avatar> !spell wish
17:49:03 <diebot> Avatar, WISH universal ([]) sorcerer/wizard 9 1 standard action Range: see text see text Comp: V, S, M (diamond worth 25,000 gp) Duration: see text Save: none; see text SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
17:49:03 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/wish.html
17:49:09 <Mekkis> only
17:49:11 <Damalon01> lol its ok
17:49:17 <Mekkis> not only
17:49:22 <Damalon01> ouch 25k
17:49:23 <Mekkis> A limited wish lets you create nearly any type of effect.
17:49:36 <Avatar> that seems to suggest magic effect
17:49:46 <Avatar> wish is more specific
17:49:46 <Mekkis> Produce any other effect whose power level is in line with the above effects, such as a single creature automatically hitting on its next attack or taking a -7 penalty on its next saving throw.
17:49:55 <Mekkis> more specific?
17:50:00 <Avatar> oh der
17:50:03 <Mekkis> you jest!
17:50:03 <Avatar> missed that one
17:50:16 <Spaceshot> so far in the GM discussion Avatar there is no complaints about the faction mission
17:50:19 <Mekkis> You may try to use a wish to produce greater effects than these, but doing so is dangerous. (The wish may pervert your intent into a literal but undesirable fulfillment or only a partial fulfillment, at the GM's discretion.)
17:50:44 <Avatar> yeah I expect most people just go above and beyond and have no trouble
17:50:51 <Avatar> my table didn't have any grand lodgers
17:50:54 <Steven> cool, found 34 full art zendikar lands
17:51:11 <Avatar> by the way, you shouldn't read that GM forum, it contains spoilers
17:51:13 <Mekkis> Found 36 full Zendikar boosters.
17:51:23 <Steven> nice
17:51:24 <Spaceshot> I know it contains spoilers
17:51:30 <Spaceshot> but I'm not reading it for spoilers
17:51:33 <Spaceshot> I
17:51:40 <Avatar> doesn't matter if you're reading it for spoilers, they are there
17:51:45 <Spaceshot> I'm reading it currently to try and see if there are any issues that you find
17:51:58 <Avatar> unless you never intend to play it
17:52:01 <Spaceshot> and I may end up GMing it before I play it anyway
17:52:13 <Spaceshot> so I'll still get spoilered
17:52:22 <Avatar> confirm it first
17:52:32 <Mekkis> Would you allow Limited Wish to know what Ambrus Valsin expects of me in this mission?
17:52:56 <Avatar> look I'd prefer they just fucking told you
17:52:57 <Spaceshot> I know how to, easily actually, differentiate player knowledge and character knowledge
17:53:09 <Avatar> so if I have to use GM fiat, I'll likely give you what you need to know pretty easily
17:53:42 <Avatar> not outright
17:53:53 <Avatar> but if you're casting some divination spell that works along those lines, then yeah sure
17:53:54 <Spaceshot> how are you going to get limited wish in a level 3-7 scenario in the first place?
17:54:16 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, I have a Core Rulebook with Buhlman's signature and One Free Limited Wish
17:54:30 <Spaceshot> and is that allowed in PFS?
17:54:38 <Mekkis> Brock allows it
17:54:40 <Avatar> is that one free limited wish ever
17:54:45 <Mekkis> yes
17:55:01 <Avatar> that is a pretty poor spending of a limited wish
17:55:03 <Spaceshot> you probably have to get your GM to also sign the book right after it's use
17:55:19 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/corerulebook.png
17:55:33 <Spaceshot> I am not doubting the book's signature
17:55:41 <Spaceshot> just that will probably be needed
17:55:49 <Mekkis> something like that, yeah
17:55:53 <Mekkis> I don't intend to use it
17:56:00 <Mekkis> but we're talking hypotheticals
17:57:13 <Spaceshot> and I can hypothetically make a 1 arcane caster/1cleric or oracle/N Mystic Theurge
17:57:37 <Mekkis> sure, but your question was as to how one could get limited wish in a 3-7.
17:57:45 <Spaceshot> true
17:57:55 <Spaceshot> but you were also talking about all that jazz anyway
17:59:32 <Spaceshot> still going to be making my bloatmage though
17:59:37 <Spaceshot> thinking that could be my GMbaby
17:59:58 <Mekkis> City of Strangers is a great book
18:00:16 <Spaceshot> it is up there
18:00:32 <s_gmusic> think I figured out what I'm doing for my arcane caster: Thassilonian Shadowcaster (Abjurationist)
18:00:46 <Avatar> if you wanted to use it online, I'd let you tick it off yourself
18:00:55 <Mekkis> we'll see
18:00:58 <Avatar> I might ask for a photo since it's a bloody limited wish
18:01:05 <Avatar> not your average boon
18:01:11 <Mekkis> I intend to use it to Duplicate Reincarnation
18:01:19 <Avatar> it's not legal
18:01:39 <Mekkis> I'm not casting it
18:01:41 <Avatar> even wish has its limits
18:01:51 <Mekkis> I'm duplicating its effects. Which is legal
18:02:01 <Spaceshot> I don't think limitted wish can reincarnate
18:02:07 <Spaceshot> it can ressurect though
18:02:14 <Mekkis> it can't resurrect
18:02:20 <Mekkis> resurrect is 7th level divine.
18:02:27 <Mekkis> raise dead is 5th level divine
18:02:27 <Spaceshot> I thought reincarnate was the better of the 2
18:02:52 <Mekkis> so you can't duplicate either of them.
18:02:59 <Mekkis> Reincarnate is 4th level divine
18:03:10 <Mekkis> ooh
18:03:22 <Mekkis> they've made Limited Wish better in pathfinder
18:06:04 <Damalon01> cool i always liked Lim wish
18:06:11 <Damalon01> great for Sorcerers
18:10:33 <Mekkis> It's great for Passwall
18:12:04 <Damalon01> amoung other things
18:13:11 <Mekkis> but especially Passwall
18:13:36 <Damalon01> hehehe
18:13:47 <Mekkis> nothing like trying to dismantle a Prismatic wall, getting to the sixth layer, and realising that Noone ever preps Passwall
18:13:57 <Damalon01> true
18:14:17 <Damalon01> hell i cant remember ever running into Pris wall or Pris sphere
18:14:33 <Damalon01> i think Pris Sphere once a long time ago
18:14:41 <Damalon01> in a galaxy far far away
18:15:32 <Spaceshot> can't you just stock up on resists and just run through the wall?
18:16:32 <Damalon01> thast pretty suicidal Spaceshot
18:16:38 <Mekkis> you're welcome to, Spaceshot
18:16:42 <Spaceshot> never said it was the smartest
18:16:44 <Spaceshot> just possible
18:17:20 <Spaceshot> doesn't it only do like 1d6/caster level/layer?
18:17:39 <Damalon01> nah
18:17:57 <Mekkis> You'll find that &prismatic wall does a lot more than that
18:18:06 <diebot> PRISMATIC WALL abjuration ([]) sorcerer/wizard 8 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S Duration: 10 min./level Save: see text SR:see text
18:18:06 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/prismatic_wall.html
18:18:16 <Damalon01> the first 3 layers do a potentail 140 damage by themselves
18:18:29 <Mekkis> they do guaranteed 70
18:20:40 <Spaceshot> still resists/protection of elements can deal with the first 3 layers
18:20:49 <Damalon01> then theres saves vs death, turning to stone, insanity and being sent to another plane. not pleasant.
18:20:54 <Spaceshot> I think a reasonable barb can deal with it
18:21:07 <Damalon01> yah maybe
18:21:28 <Mekkis> and the "destroys all creatures and objects" doesn't allow a save.
18:21:44 <Damalon01> personally i never like to go with 'maybe this will work' strategies. not if i have a choice.
18:22:20 <Spaceshot> "maybe this will work" is how a lot of PFS is played
18:22:26 <Damalon01> isnt it 'destroys all object and effects'?
18:22:32 <Spaceshot> especially in pick up tables
18:22:46 <Damalon01> that means a barb with no gear agter he gets through the wall
18:22:55 <Damalon01> after
18:22:58 <Spaceshot> some would say that creatures are also objects
18:23:08 <Damalon01> some would yes
18:23:20 <Spaceshot> mekkis is one of these some
18:23:30 <Damalon01> hehehe evidently :P
18:24:10 <Spaceshot> but that's why I like how PFS generally ends at level 12
18:24:21 <Spaceshot> none of this insane magic to deal with
18:24:28 <Damalon01> yah so you dont deal with this insanity
18:24:52 <Damalon01> although PFS sometimes does like to put in insanely out of whack CRs
18:25:07 <Spaceshot> that is true
18:25:36 <Damalon01> so you could end up facing it and being shit out of luck
18:25:53 <Spaceshot> but the whole "average character level +2 = CR for a hard fight" doesn't always work
18:26:02 <Spaceshot> especially once you hit mid levels
18:26:08 <Damalon01> no not always but its a good start'
18:26:17 <Mekkis> I would require saves for each item you're carrying, and an additional save for the character
18:26:31 <Damalon01> often i find terrain and circumstande just as challenging as CR
18:26:51 <Damalon01> circumstance
18:26:53 <Damalon01> bleah
18:27:08 <Spaceshot> mmm circumstance is generally a big player
18:27:12 <Spaceshot> and terrain can be as well
18:27:13 <Damalon01> yep
18:27:24 <Spaceshot> open field vs wooden bridge over active volcano
18:27:31 <Damalon01> exactly
18:27:56 <Damalon01> surprise attacks vs plenty of time to prep and given info on the enemy
18:28:34 <Damalon01> if theres one thing that PFS seems reluctant to do its let the pcs know what they about to fight, especially its strengths and weaknesses
18:29:03 <Spaceshot> I like the element of surprise in that aspect
18:29:05 <Damalon01> and i dont mean getting to roll a Knowledge after the combat has started, i mean before you even see the bugger
18:29:24 <Damalon01> hmmm it can be harmful
18:29:27 <Spaceshot> I do not like however, that in most tactics blocks, NPCS/monsters get to ready actions outside of combat
18:29:35 <Spaceshot> but PCs by RAW cannot
18:29:42 <Damalon01> especially if its high CR and powerful to begin with
18:29:46 <Damalon01> eg a Dragon
18:30:08 <Damalon01> indeed, thats a pet peeve of mine
18:30:22 <Damalon01> NPCs get to prepar we dont
18:30:27 <Spaceshot> if you have an inkling as to what you're going to be up against, as in going into a known dragon's cave, you should be able to ask to make a knowledge check, or gather information
18:30:41 <Damalon01> they Know we are coming and what we can do, we have no idea about them
18:30:58 <Mekkis> You do get time to prep
18:31:05 <Spaceshot> I've seen people at tables go "I'm going to hold my sword at the ready, striking at any [insert creature type we're actively after] that come in front of me"
18:31:06 <Damalon01> sometime Mekkis
18:31:18 <Mekkis> if you didn't cast Mage Armour before getting into anywhere dangerous, you're doing itwrong
18:31:35 <Spaceshot> and the GM being like "sorry, you can't do that" and then a bit later getting stabbed by a hidden rogue as he walks around the corner
18:31:44 <Damalon01> yes but shorter lived spells dont have that privelage, ie shield
18:31:55 <Spaceshot> or haste
18:32:09 <Spaceshot> or reading your sword/axe/bow
18:32:19 <Mekkis> reading?
18:32:27 <Damalon01> but npcs ogten start off with 1min duration spells already up
18:32:35 <Damalon01> often
18:32:35 <Spaceshot> readying*
18:32:45 <Spaceshot> whatever mekkis, you don't have to constantly be a cunt about words
18:32:47 <Mekkis> you can't ready out of combat regardless
18:32:54 <Mekkis> Spaceshot, that wasn't clear at all
18:32:54 <Spaceshot> enemies get to
18:33:03 <Mekkis> no. We call this a surprise round
18:33:06 <Damalon01> ive seen gms run npcs as having readyed actions
18:33:12 <Spaceshot> it's even in their tactics
18:33:17 <Damalon01> even though it was out of combat
18:33:34 <Spaceshot> I know, I did it on sunday
18:33:35 <Damalon01> in Rise of the Goblin Guild
18:33:38 <Spaceshot> it was in the stat block
18:34:00 <Mekkis> I just cooked a steak
18:34:02 <Spaceshot> The Penumbral Accords had at least 2 readyings
18:34:03 <Mekkis> For 90 minutes
18:34:13 <Damalon01> lol is it burned?
18:34:21 <Spaceshot> good for you mekkis, derailment aside
18:34:21 <Mekkis> not at all
18:34:26 <Mekkis> it's delicious
18:34:41 <Spaceshot> readying outside of combat should be allowed
18:34:51 <Mekkis> vacuum packed
18:35:05 <Damalon01> im of a mind that if an npc can do it, I should be able to as well
18:35:14 <Spaceshot> that too
18:35:27 <Damalon01> hence why the Mythics in Seige of the Diamond City really pissed me off
18:35:43 <Spaceshot> if I'm walking through a dungeon where I know there are monsters about, I am going to ready my offensive ability to thwart that/those monster/s
18:36:13 <Spaceshot> not just walk about, see the monster, and then be like "oh right, I'm meant to kill these"
18:36:33 <Mekkis> Don’t allow players to use the ready action outside combat.
18:36:33 <Mekkis> While the above examples are all acceptable in the middle of an
18:36:33 <Mekkis> encounter, a player cannot use the ready action to cover a door
18:36:33 <Mekkis> with his crossbow outside combat. It’s okay for a player to state
18:36:33 <Mekkis> that he’s covering the door, but what that means is that if some-
18:36:33 <Mekkis> thing comes through the door he’s unlikely to be caught unaware.
18:36:33 <Mekkis> If the character coming through the door wasn’t aware of him, he
18:36:33 <Mekkis> gets an extra standard action because he surprised the other char-
18:36:33 <Mekkis> acter, and so he can shoot the weapon. Otherwise, he still needs to
18:36:33 <Mekkis> roll initiative for his character normally.
18:37:11 <Damalon01> thats great Mekkis but like Ive said, Ive seen npcs greak that rule
18:37:15 <Damalon01> break
18:37:29 <Mekkis> I disapprove of that
18:38:10 <Damalon01> i saw a goblin with a infinitely readied action to pull a lever and trigger a pit trap the moment it saw us run at him
18:38:23 <Mekkis> when I see tactics that say "he readies his longbow", I interpret that to mean "he holds his longbow, ready to shoot" rather than "he takes the ready action out-of-combat"
18:38:35 <Damalon01> Matt Goodall even messaged me to tell me he didnt write it that way
18:39:22 <Mekkis> I agree with Goodall.
18:39:29 <Damalon01> me too
18:39:34 <Spaceshot> During Combat [redacted] initiates combat by throwing an [redacted] into the largest group of PCs she can target.
18:39:52 <Mekkis> but what was your issue with Mythics in Siege?
18:40:06 <Damalon01> several points Mekkis
18:40:24 <Damalon01> one: i dont think i can become Mythic
18:40:26 <Spaceshot> to me, initiates means "readies action so it is the first possible action that occurs in the combat"
18:40:44 <Mekkis> When you fight a Glabrezu, you don't complain about why you can't become a Glabrezu....
18:41:07 <Damalon01> two: its an ability that Demogorgon used to have back in 3.0/3.5 and now its on level 7-9 Mythic Half-orc clerics
18:41:28 <Damalon01> three in a row within a couple rounds of each other
18:41:41 <Mekkis> There's a scenario that has a monster that was formerly in the Epic Level Handbook in it.
18:41:47 <Damalon01> a Glabrezu is a bit different
18:41:55 <Damalon01> Mythic is either a template
18:42:00 <Mekkis> it was a template
18:42:03 <Damalon01> or a granted ability
18:42:21 <Damalon01> why cant i get the same template? im a hero right?
18:42:27 <Damalon01> hell im a cleric
18:42:36 <Mekkis> I've fought half-fiends...
18:42:36 <Damalon01> divinely invested by Iomedae
18:42:52 <Damalon01> but im not good enuff when those half orc clerics are?
18:42:57 <Mekkis> why can't I get the half-fiend template?
18:43:10 <Damalon01> these were just half-orc clerics mate, not half fiends?
18:43:19 <Damalon01> well thats it why cant you?
18:43:35 <Damalon01> id let you if you were willing to pay the price
18:43:47 <Damalon01> why not in PFS?
18:43:51 <Mekkis> there metagame reason is "because it's impossible to balance with other non-mythic PCs"
18:43:58 <Damalon01> exactly
18:44:02 <Spaceshot> damalon, I think you're asking a bit much
18:44:02 <Damalon01> but they use it
18:44:06 <Mekkis> and I think that's a great reason
18:44:10 <Mekkis> but they're not PCs
18:44:17 <Damalon01> it is a good reason
18:44:45 <Spaceshot> NPCs have the luxury of being able to use all their resources in a single fight, and not care (I bet there are some exceptions, but this is the general rule)
18:44:49 <Damalon01> but i think they should have used Mythic oon a enemy thats actually mythic, not common half orcs
18:45:04 <Damalon01> i hate that too Spaceshot
18:45:24 <Spaceshot> I understand it in certain scenarios
18:45:26 <Mekkis> meh. It's just a set of abilities, and a name. And the name can be ignored
18:45:48 <Spaceshot> you're being sneaky, or are going into a place that in general isn't fighting every day
18:46:09 <Damalon01> i can forgive a dragon or a demon or a medusae or something having mycthic... but whatthe difference between me having it and a half orc? not bloody much
18:46:10 <Spaceshot> and you're going into one of the days where it's peaceful (till you show up), so they blow their load trying to survive (like PCs would)
18:46:32 <Spaceshot> Blame the Glabrezu
18:46:37 <Spaceshot> I would
18:47:03 <Damalon01> i think it should be done in stages Spaceshot, they should use a little and then test if thats enuff then use a little more if they are still losing etc
18:47:10 <Damalon01> thats what i do when im playing
18:47:35 <Spaceshot> is that what the tactics say?
18:47:41 <Damalon01> not always
18:47:48 <Damalon01> usually its all or nothing
18:48:01 <Spaceshot> I know some do, and some tactics say that they prep all their buffs on themselves on first sound of anything nearby
18:48:05 <Damalon01> barbarians rage the moment a fight starts etc
18:48:11 <Spaceshot> yea, try not to steer away from tactics
18:48:24 <Spaceshot> more often than not, it's either a TPK or easymode
18:48:31 <Damalon01> indeed
18:48:45 <Spaceshot> which I know here it's been a TPK at times
18:48:51 <Spaceshot> at least 1 I remember
18:49:11 <Damalon01> by the Vay i ask a lot, but i ask no more of them than i do of myself
18:49:20 <Damalon01> way
18:49:45 <Spaceshot> expect GMs to play everything by the book
18:50:02 <Damalon01> not exactly but i do prefer they try
18:50:03 <Spaceshot> or at times, forget they they have tactics all together
18:50:48 <Spaceshot> such as stephen white charging with an Oni full on into a braced nodatchi (I think, one of the eastern brace weapons)
18:50:55 <Spaceshot> and died on that brace
18:51:00 <Damalon01> yup
18:51:09 <Spaceshot> and then he read the profile and was "oh, he's meant to do this and that first"
18:51:21 <Steven> 550 worth of cards found that im willing to sell.
18:51:23 <Damalon01> heheh everyone makes mistakes
18:51:47 <Spaceshot> MTG steven?
18:52:04 <Mekkis> Damalon01, you good to go now?
18:52:10 <Damalon01> yes i am ser
18:52:37 Mekkis gives voice to Damalon01
18:52:44 <Mekkis> Change your nick, and let's get started
18:52:59 <Spaceshot> if it's 1on1
18:53:06 <Spaceshot> wouldn't it be easier in PMs?
18:53:15 <Mekkis> We need Die Bot
18:53:17 <Damalon01> seeting up
18:53:22 <Spaceshot> make a seperate room?
18:53:45 <Spaceshot> not saying that always has to happen, just there are quite a few of us here, it's prime chatting time(ish)
18:53:55 <Spaceshot> and only 2 people are going to be allowed to speak
18:55:47 <Steven> do it up son!
18:57:04 <Bobo> Dont you hate it when you're drawing a map... and something looks like a penis.
18:57:19 <Spaceshot> it's bad when it doesn't
19:02:43 <Bobo> :P
19:02:50 <Bobo> i played uh...
19:03:01 <Bobo> you guys mentioned it earlier
19:03:06 <Bobo> but its the sequel to that scenario
19:03:07 <Bobo> day of the dead?
19:03:34 <Bobo> the end map for that, not sure if its the same layoutr as the official one but the DM i had drew it out and it looked EXACTLY like the female reproductive system
19:03:53 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+10, Religion
19:03:53 <diebot> Damalon01, Religion: [1d20=11] 21
19:07:39 <Bobo> anyone got an idea what would make a good mini-gelatenous cube?
19:07:45 <Bobo> something of the same body type but easier
19:07:47 <Bobo> oozey
19:09:26 <Steven> Alright... finished with cards.
19:09:43 <Steven> 621 bucks.
19:10:00 <Steven> figured 120 items was enough.
19:11:22 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Tiadora-001.jpg
19:15:58 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Thorn.png
19:20:16 <Damalon01> !throw 1d10+7, false life
19:20:17 <diebot> Damalon01, false life: [1d10=9] 16
19:20:21 <Spaceshot> ebaying MTG cards Steven?
19:20:55 <Mekkis> 180.200.175.153
19:20:58 <Spaceshot> I did that with a bunch of cards
19:21:10 <Spaceshot> only ended up selling like 5 out of my 20 or so online
19:22:59 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, Perception
19:23:00 <diebot> Damalon01, Perception: [1d20=19] 20
19:24:36 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, Perception
19:24:37 <diebot> Damalon01, Perception: [1d20=8] 9
19:25:06 Spaceshot_ ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
19:26:38 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, Perception
19:26:39 <diebot> Damalon01, Perception: [1d20=11] 12
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19:29:56 <s_gmusic> lawl at these two lines
19:30:02 <s_gmusic> <Damalon01> then theres saves vs death, turning to stone, insanity and being sent to another plane. not pleasant.
19:30:04 <s_gmusic> <Spaceshot> I think a reasonable barb can deal with it
19:30:09 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+6
19:30:10 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+6: [1d20=17] 23
19:30:14 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+4, Initiative
19:30:14 <diebot> Damalon01, Initiative: [1d20=18] 22
19:31:00 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+6
19:31:01 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+6: [1d20=16] 22
19:31:06 <Mekkis> !throw 1d8+1
19:31:07 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d8+1: [1d8=7] 8
19:31:40 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+10, Religion
19:31:40 <diebot> Damalon01, Religion: [1d20=3] 13
19:32:05 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+12, Arcana
19:32:05 <diebot> Damalon01, Arcana: [1d20=7] 19
19:33:13 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 1
19:33:13 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 1: [1d20=8] 16
19:33:17 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 2
19:33:18 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 2: [1d20=10] 18
19:33:40 <Damalon01> !throw 8d6+2
19:33:40 <diebot> Damalon01, 8d6+2: [8d6=2,3,6,2,5,4,6,2] 32
19:34:32 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+6; 1d20+6 gore; 2#1d20+6 claws
19:34:33 <diebot> Mekkis, 2#1d20+6: [1d20=18] 24, [1d20=20] 26; gore: [1d20=19] 25; claws: [1d20=9] 15, [1d20=12] 18
19:34:45 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+6 confirm the bite
19:34:46 <diebot> Mekkis, confirm the bite: [1d20=10] 16
19:34:56 <Mekkis> !throw 3d6+3
19:34:57 <diebot> Mekkis, 3d6+3: [3d6=5,2,2] 12
19:35:46 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 1
19:35:46 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 1: [1d20=19] 27
19:35:51 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 2
19:35:51 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 2: [1d20=12] 20
19:36:07 <Damalon01> !throw 8d6+2
19:36:08 <diebot> Damalon01, 8d6+2: [8d6=6,6,3,4,4,4,4,1] 34
19:37:26 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:37:26 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=6] 7
19:39:09 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:39:09 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=11] 12
19:40:57 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:40:58 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=8] 9
19:42:46 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:42:46 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=1] 2
19:44:13 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:44:14 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=12] 13
19:46:09 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20-1, sense motive
19:46:09 <diebot> Damalon01, sense motive: [1d20=20] 19
19:47:35 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:47:35 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=12] 13
19:49:25 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+1, perception
19:49:26 <diebot> Damalon01, perception: [1d20=20] 21
19:51:35 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+16, Bluff
19:51:36 <diebot> Damalon01, Bluff: [1d20=6] 22
19:57:01 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+16, Bluff
19:57:01 <diebot> Damalon01, Bluff: [1d20=18] 34
20:01:45 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+16, Bluff
20:01:45 <diebot> Damalon01, Bluff: [1d20=8] 24
20:02:18 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+12, Diplomacy
20:02:19 <diebot> Damalon01, Diplomacy: [1d20=17] 29
20:09:45 <Mekkis> Sir Richard Thomasson Havelyn
20:13:25 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+16, Bluff
20:13:25 <diebot> Damalon01, Bluff: [1d20=8] 24
20:13:34 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 1
20:13:35 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 1: [1d20=11] 19
20:14:37 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4
20:14:38 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+4: [1d20=16] 20
20:14:44 <Mekkis> ?fatigued
20:14:45 <diebot> Mekkis, A fatigued character can neither run nor charge and takes a 2 penalty to Strength and Dexterity. Doing anything that would normally cause fatigue causes the fatigued character to become exhausted. After 8 hours of complete rest, fatigued characters are no longer fatigued.
20:14:59 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+1
20:15:00 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+1: [1d20=6] 7
20:15:01 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+4, initiative
20:15:01 <diebot> Damalon01, initiative: [1d20=10] 14
20:15:28 <Mekkis> !spell ray of enfeeblement
20:15:28 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 1
20:15:29 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 1: [1d20=2] 10
20:15:33 <diebot> Mekkis, RAY OF ENFEEBLEMENT necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1, magus 1 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level Save: Fortitude half SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
20:15:33 <diebot> A coruscating ray springs from your hand. You must succeed on a ranged touch attack to strike a target. The subject takes a penalty to Strength equal to 1d6+1 per two caster levels (maximum 1d6+5). The subject's Strength score cannot drop below 1. A successful Fortitude save reduces this penalty by half. This penalty does not stack with itself.
20:15:33 <diebot> Apply the highest penalty instead.
20:15:51 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8
20:15:52 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=3] 11
20:16:24 <Damalon01> !throw 1d6+4, enfeeblement
20:16:25 <diebot> Damalon01, enfeeblement: [1d6=6] 10
20:16:54 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8
20:16:55 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=10] 18
20:17:29 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6
20:17:30 <diebot> Mekkis, 2d6: [2d6=4,1] 5
20:18:42 <Mekkis> !spell chill touch
20:18:43 <diebot> Mekkis, CHILL TOUCH necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 1, witch 1, magus 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature or creatures touched (up to one/level) Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous Save: Fortitude partial or Will negates; see text SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
20:18:44 <diebot> A touch from your hand, which glows with blue energy, disrupts the life force of living creatures. Each touch channels negative energy that deals 1d6 points of damage. The touched creature also takes 1 point of Strength damage unless it makes a successful Fortitude saving throw. You can use this melee touch attack up to one time per level. An
20:18:44 <diebot> undead creature you touch takes no damage of either sort, but it must make a successful Will saving throw or flee as if panicked for 1d4 rounds + 1 round per caster level.
20:18:56 <Mekkis> !spell vampiric touch
20:18:57 <diebot> Mekkis, VAMPIRIC TOUCH necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 3, witch 3, antipaladin 3, magus 3 1 standard action Range: touch living creature touched Comp: V, S Duration: instantaneous/1 hour; see text Save: none SR:yesSource: PFRPG Core
20:18:58 <diebot> You must succeed on a melee touch attack. Your touch deals 1d6 points of damage per two caster levels (maximum 10d6). You gain temporary hit points equal to the damage you deal. You can't gain more than the subject's current hit points + the subject's Constitution score (which is enough to kill the subject). The temporary hit points disappear 1
20:18:58 <diebot> hour later.
20:19:10 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+13, defensive cast
20:19:11 <diebot> Damalon01, defensive cast: [1d20=19] 32
20:19:30 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+2, touchies
20:19:30 <diebot> Damalon01, touchies: [1d20=20] 22
20:19:33 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+2, touchies
20:19:33 <diebot> Damalon01, touchies: [1d20=13] 15
20:19:57 <Damalon01> !throw 8d6
20:19:57 <diebot> Damalon01, 8d6: [8d6=4,3,4,1,3,5,1,5] 26
20:20:18 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8; 1d20+3
20:20:19 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=1] 9; 1d20+3: [1d20=9] 12
20:20:46 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+13, defensive cast
20:20:47 <diebot> Damalon01, defensive cast: [1d20=1] 14
20:20:53 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8; 1d20+3
20:20:54 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13; 1d20+3: [1d20=7] 10
20:21:12 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+13, defensive cast
20:21:13 <diebot> Damalon01, defensive cast: [1d20=12] 25
20:21:17 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+2, touchies
20:21:17 <diebot> Damalon01, touchies: [1d20=14] 16
20:21:23 <Damalon01> !throw 4d6
20:21:24 <diebot> Damalon01, 4d6: [4d6=6,4,3,4] 17
20:21:34 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8; 1d20+3
20:21:35 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=11] 19; 1d20+3: [1d20=8] 11
20:21:41 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6
20:21:42 <diebot> Mekkis, 2d6: [2d6=2,3] 5
20:22:25 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+13, defensive cast
20:22:26 <diebot> Damalon01, defensive cast: [1d20=7] 20
20:22:38 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8; 1d20+3
20:22:39 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=15] 23; 1d20+3: [1d20=16] 19
20:22:41 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6
20:22:42 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6
20:22:42 <diebot> Mekkis, 2d6: [2d6=3,6] 9
20:22:43 <diebot> Mekkis, 2d6: [2d6=6,2] 8
20:23:29 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8
20:23:31 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=16] 24
20:23:33 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6
20:23:34 <diebot> Mekkis, 2d6: [2d6=1,3] 4
20:24:00 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 1
20:24:00 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 1: [1d20=16] 24
20:24:02 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+8, Ray 1
20:24:03 <diebot> Damalon01, Ray 1: [1d20=5] 13
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20:24:13 <Damalon01> !throw 8d6+2
20:24:13 <diebot> Damalon01, 8d6+2: [8d6=4,2,3,3,1,4,1,4] 24
20:24:54 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5
20:24:55 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+5: [1d20=12] 17
20:25:36 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+13, defensive cast
20:25:37 <diebot> Damalon01, defensive cast: [1d20=8] 21
20:25:46 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+2, touchies
20:25:46 <diebot> Damalon01, touchies: [1d20=10] 12
20:26:32 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8
20:26:33 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=20] 28
20:26:44 <Damalon01> !throw 1d6
20:26:44 <diebot> Damalon01, 1d6: [1d6=4] 4
20:27:13 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8; 1d20+3
20:27:14 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=10] 18; 1d20+3: [1d20=2] 5
20:27:18 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6
20:27:19 <diebot> Mekkis, 2d6: [2d6=6,6] 12
20:28:08 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8;
20:28:09 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=4] 12
20:28:15 <Damalon01> !throw 1d20+2, touchies
20:28:16 <diebot> Damalon01, touchies: [1d20=9] 11
20:28:23 <Damalon01> !throw 1d6
20:28:23 <diebot> Damalon01, 1d6: [1d6=6] 6
20:28:25 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+8
20:28:26 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+8: [1d20=13] 21
20:30:36 <Damalon01> !throw 1d6
20:30:37 <diebot> Damalon01, 1d6: [1d6=2] 2
20:38:58 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/WotWContract.pdf
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