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12:33 <mib_gginuo> hello?
25:29 <Steven> hey
26:15 <Steven> sorry bout not showing up, the person who was supposed to come in after me didnt show up.
46:53 <Avatar> but they have a pre-req of 8th level :(
47:08 <Avatar> I guess I'll have to get wings instead
54:50 <K3GasaiYuno> *sadface?*
01:35 <Damalon01> hey all
01:41 <Avatar> yo
01:49 <Avatar> anyone got an opinion on the cracked orange prism ioun stone
02:09 <Avatar> does it give a cantrip/orison if your class normally can't cast spells, or has a spell list without 0 levels
03:14 <Damalon01> is that in seekers of secrets?
03:24 <Avatar> yeah
03:40 <Avatar> Orange  prism:  Wearer  adds  one  cantrip  or  orison 
03:40 <Avatar> (determined  when  the  stone  is  created)  to  his  list  of  spells 
03:40 <Avatar> known or spells prepared. Price: 1,000 gp
03:45 <Damalon01> let me have a look
04:02 <Avatar> the forums are a bit divided
05:30 <Damalon01> hmmm the resonance effect is interesting if you like a little chance
05:47 <Avatar> I'm only referring to the cracked effect
06:53 <Damalon01> im pretty sure it only adds the extra cantrip if you have cantrips. it says list  of  spells 
06:53 <Damalon01> known or spells prepared and that suggests if you dont have a list you cant add it in.
08:06 <Damalon01> look it could be cool, and im a big fan of ioun stones but i think youre better off with other choices.
08:16 <Damalon01> suchas a cracked pink and green sphere
08:51 <Avatar> I need to find a way to get detect magic for my alchemist
09:02 <Avatar> who has plenty of spellcraft and no bloody cantrips
09:37 <Damalon01> ok. im not sure itll work for an alchemist. does he get cantrips?
09:59 <Avatar> no
10:02 <Damalon01> does his extracts count? i see what you meant by 'not having level 0s'
10:20 <Avatar> alchemists can learn spells from wizard spellbooks
10:48 <Damalon01> yeah i know that but they dont have cantrips so im not sure it would work
11:05 <Damalon01> what about a wand of detect magic? do you have UMD?
11:36 <Avatar> shit UMD
12:11 <Damalon01> hehehe you forgot it?
12:20 <Avatar> I dumped cha
12:27 <Avatar> I think I was going to take something that was going to change that actually
12:34 <Avatar> a trait out of PFS primer?
12:53 <Damalon01> yeah i think theres a trait but i dont know it
13:03 <Avatar> makes UMD use int instead of cha
13:23 <Damalon01> uh huh
13:50 <Avatar> how much does a 0 level wand cost
13:55 <Avatar> 375gp for 50 charges
15:34 <Avatar> I kind of want to be able to spam it
16:01 <Avatar> admittedly, that wand might be a cheaper option anyway
18:53 <Damalon01> short term its cheaper
19:01 <Avatar> 50 charges
19:05 <Avatar> usually someone else will be around
19:09 <Damalon01> indeed
19:27 <Damalon01> if you get thru more than 1 wand ill be surprised
19:36 <Damalon01> that why i suggested it
19:41 <Avatar> even if I get two wands
19:48 <Avatar> I am already level 6, by the time it expires, I should get to 12
20:12 <Damalon01> cant you use Prestige to buy the wand?
20:19 <Avatar> waste of 2 prestige
20:26 <Avatar> you can buy an item "up to 750gp"
20:42 <Avatar> but I wouldn't burn it on a 375gp item
20:42 <Damalon01> not if you got heaps :P or dont care about ressing ::P
20:59 <Avatar> I care about ressing
21:01 <Avatar> very much so
21:05 <Avatar> I die easily, ask mekkis
21:45 <Damalon01> hehehe
21:54 <Damalon01> then i guess you care
27:37 <Avatar> not sure if I should invest in a clear spindle with my garbage will save
28:31 <Avatar> I don't like clear spindles but I feel with my +1 will save I might be pushed to the brink here
33:32 <Damalon01> you could learn protection from evil as an extract right? then you have the option of prepping it  without having to resort to cheap and nasty power gaming tricks :P
33:42 <Avatar> alchemists are arcane
33:51 <Avatar> prot from evil is divine
34:01 <Damalon01> its arcane too mate
35:10 <Damalon01> prot from evil isnt on the alchemist list tho. shame.
36:05 <Damalon01> i guess thats something wizard/sorcerer have over the alchemist
36:22 <Avatar> er really? arcane?
36:27 <Avatar> !spell protection from evil
36:38 <diebot> Avatar, PROTECTION FROM EVIL abjuration ([good]) cleric/oracle 1, inquisitor 1, paladin 1, sorcerer/wizard 1, summoner 1 1 standard action Range: touch creature touched Comp: V, S, M/DF Duration: 1 min./level (D) Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:no; see textSource: PFRPG Core
36:39 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/protection_from_evil.html
36:44 <Avatar> there you go
41:49 <Damalon01> :)
43:26 <Damalon01> i used to play a Conjurer that specialized in summoning devils. i learned quickly that you need magic circle versus evil to control those bastards or they eat you. same goes for dimensional anchor.
43:45 <Damalon01> hey Mekkis you there?
48:48 <Avatar> you play a conjurer that summons devils?
48:54 <Avatar> weren't you getting up mekkis about his diabolist
53:26 <Damalon01> nah mate i dont mind if people play diabloists
53:39 <Damalon01> also i played a Conjurer back in 3.5
53:59 <Avatar> you were getting up mekkis about his diabolist during race for the runecarved key
54:06 <Avatar> I distinctly remember the argument, it was quite entertaining
56:32 <Damalon01> did i? i dont remember
57:11 <Damalon01> was i BSing about him being a Cheliax?
57:32 <Damalon01> i vaguely remember him and Ulzef being pro-slavers
57:44 <Damalon01> and I was playing my Adoren Gunslinger
57:49 <Damalon01> Andoren
58:16 <Damalon01> i might have given 'em some shit for that
58:47 <Damalon01> but yeah I was 'in-character'
01:51 <Avatar> yeah something like that
04:14 <Avatar> cloak of the hedge wizard is 2500gp that also gives at will detect magic and a few other things
06:11 <Damalon01> tyhats seems ok, but it does take the claok slot. No cloak of resistance for you!
07:47 <Avatar> you don't wear it in combat
07:50 <Avatar> you put it on when you want to detect
08:06 <Avatar> I have never bought a cloak of resist, I might add
08:11 <Avatar> garbage item
13:10 <Damalon01> really? interesting. im a big believer in saves.
13:27 <Mekkis> I'm a big believer in interesting magic items
13:36 <Mekkis> rather than ones that just give +x to y
18:22 <Damalon01> a fair point
18:51 <Damalon01> derp
18:57 <Damalon01> Hey Mekkis, are we likely to play way of the wicked tonight or tomorrow?
20:22 <Mekkis> no. I plan to negotiate a time after SS
20:36 <Mekkis> hopefully next week
21:37 <Mekkis> check out my city streets map
21:43 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/citystreets.pdf
22:15 <Damalon01> okey dokey, just wanted to know for my schedule
22:21 <Mekkis> no problem
43:40 <Avatar> I am playing with perhaps the coolest bard ever
46:26 <s_gmusic> seen mention of Lunar Oracle earlier, and I'm toying with a silly build in a homebrew: 1 Lunar Oracle (prophetic armor revelation)/2 Paladin/3 Fighter. CHA to AC, Reflex, CMD, then All Saves. Armor up and start swinging
56:04 <goodeeds> hi,  Im 40 years old and thinking of going back to uni. I was worried if id fit in though.  I mean, would the younger kids be laughing behind my back, calling me mean names or saying things like " that old man wont get a job,  whats he doing here"? would they also expct me to know everything coz im older when in fact i dont, coz if i did i woudnt be there in the first place..
26:52 <s_gmusic> rawrg
27:43 <s_gmusic> just tried to search "Sin Mage" on paizo, typed in "Sing Mage" instead. >.>
28:57 <Steven> there is no such thing as a sin mage
29:03 <Steven> you probably mean Thassilonian specialist wizard 
30:06 <s_gmusic> that's what I know. the forums seem to have a thing for calling them sin mages. :\
30:49 <Steven> thats because people dont do their homework and just read the d20pfsrd
32:22 <s_gmusic> ^
33:14 <s_gmusic> that's why I love being able to order new pathfinder books at the distributor cost. I don't have need for the PRD/d20pfsrd unless it's for something I don't yet have the book for.
35:39 <s_gmusic> what's getting me is that I only have a couple questions regarding Thassilonian Magic and most of what I find on the forums is a "is it PFS legal" thread. :|
37:41 <Steven> whats your question
37:57 <Steven> make it snappy, im goin to bed soon.
40:11 <s_gmusic> subschools: I heard that you could be a Thassilonian Mage of a subschool, with your opposition being the main school's opponents. ex: Thassilonian mage of the Counterspell subschool (Abjuration), banned schools Evocation and Necromancy
42:00 <s_gmusic> is that legit or is someone messing with me?
43:16 <s_gmusic> also, is "Thassilonian Specialist" a full-blown Wizard archetype or not? it doesn't replace anything, just changes how specialization works.
51:42 <Steven> sorry back
52:07 <Steven> i cant remember source
53:08 <Steven> but when you pick thassilonian specialist
53:44 <Steven> you cant pick subschools
54:01 <Steven> you gotta pick the OG school
54:34 <s_gmusic> that makes me sad.
54:54 <s_gmusic> because being able to do a subschool would give me more reason to make a thassilonian. :\
55:14 <Steven> well the reason you go thassilonian is for the extra spell thats free
56:53 <s_gmusic> I know that's a big thing (extra spell and two slots), but from what I was looking at before, it just didn't seem worth going Thass for a wizard for me.
58:30 <Steven> well you get all the bonus's for the school you pick, plus an extra spell slot
00:15 <Steven> my necromancer misses abjuration for srue
00:26 <Steven> but its a small price to pay for being completely OP
01:24 <s_gmusic> yeah... guy I play with has a Thassilonian Shadow Caster. Evocation. Fire for days and has yet to run out of spells. >.>
01:52 <Steven> yeah, my necromancer has a fuck ton of spells as well.
03:29 <s_gmusic> why necro?
03:49 <Steven> 1st-9 2nd-9 3rd-9 4th-7 5th-7 6th-6
04:08 <Steven> someone in this channel said it was one of the weakest schools... challenge accepted.
04:17 <s_gmusic> heh
05:18 <Steven> nothing is weak about a dc 29 persistent suffocation
05:20 <s_gmusic> how does necro play in PFS, though? what with the whole "can't be evil" thing
05:42 <Steven> fine... i just dont do evil acts.
05:49 <Steven> well... i take that back
05:58 <Steven> i've done 5 evil acts in 12 levels.
06:10 <Steven> they were fantastic.
06:33 <s_gmusic> Story time! Story time! :D
06:51 <Steven> i cant without giving spoilers
07:21 <s_gmusic> pm? I've played a large chunk of things and don't remember too much anyway.
07:31 <Steven> i will say i instructed some people on the proper worship of lissala and then when they decided to attack us, i killed them and then ate a dwarf
08:14 <Steven> i did however cook him with a casting of shocking grasp to avoid eating raw meat
08:30 <Steven> because thats just dangerous...
09:24 <s_gmusic> that... sounds familiar.
10:11 <Steven> i've also several times had my own army of undead creatures... both corporeal and incorporeal
11:07 <s_gmusic> was that 4-08? if so, that one was fun. I played in that a few days ago.
11:28 <Steven> also had a gm try to give me an evil alignment because i cast animate dead... we had a 'discussion' where i informed him of the rules and he gave me his table ruling.
11:58 <s_gmusic> and...?
12:02 <Steven> so i told him how the rules work and he said its his table he gets to do what he wants
12:15 <s_gmusic> nope.jpg
12:22 <Steven> so i told him how the rules work and he said he was going to report me to the VC
12:47 <Steven> so i told him how to contact him
12:51 <Steven> he did
12:58 <Steven> walter told the GM i was right.
13:07 <s_gmusic> lawl.
13:27 <Avatar> ?deafened
13:28 <diebot> Avatar, A deafened character cannot hear. He takes a 4 penalty on initiative checks, automatically fails Perception checks based on sound, takes a 4 penalty on opposed Perception checks, and has a 20% chance of spell failure when casting spells with verbal components. Characters who remain deafened for a long time grow accustomed to these drawbacks
13:28 <diebot> and can overcome some of them.
13:45 <Avatar> wonder if concussive bomb is worth it for sonic damage
13:50 <Avatar> I need something I can use vs demons
13:55 <Steven> Gm got angry and refuses to run for me because, and i quote "he doesnt let me do what i want"
14:01 <Steven> force bomb
14:02 <Avatar> acid and frost don't cut it and force isn't available until 8th level
14:13 <Avatar> I'm 6th level
14:27 <Avatar> I'm thinking maybe infusion now and fast bombs at 7th level, then force bombs at 8th
14:27 <Steven> yeah.
14:38 <Avatar> I don't know how good infusion will be
14:41 <s_gmusic> our store has the advantage of the Venture Lieutenant playing or running something. none of that has the chance to get started.
14:59 <Steven> well, i am the VL at my local area.
15:08 <s_gmusic> ..................................
15:11 <s_gmusic> all my wat.
15:13 <Steven> the VC also lives here in town.
15:36 <Avatar> oh wait, fast bombs needs 8th
15:38 <Steven> its pretty awesome
16:37 <Steven> you know i was going to go to bed, but then i had to do stuff.
16:42 <s_gmusic> lol
16:47 <Steven> i think i've got my second wind... pity
16:53 <Steven> i was looking forward to sleep.
17:29 <s_gmusic> >.>
17:43 <Steven> seriously, i've gotten into some dumb arguments with people.
17:59 <Steven> partially because the VC plays at the same store.
18:34 <Steven> they dont like my ruling, so will argue with me about it.
19:14 <Steven> and when i get fed up with it, i tell them the ruling that is fair/correct and end the discussion.
19:27 <Steven> so they go and get the VC to try to overrule me.
19:35 <Steven> and then i get to have the same argument again.
19:55 <Avatar> we're doing so well we decided to split the party and we're still winning
20:08 <Steven> im a fan of explosive bomb
20:26 <s_gmusic> MFW: buy a bunch of card packs to pull some uncommons and instead get an almost $30 card. >.>
20:37 <Steven> my latest favorite was the 5ft step from the 15ft diagonal to the 5ft diagonal.
20:42 <Avatar> ?entangled
20:43 <diebot> Avatar, The character is ensnared. Being entangled impedes movement, but does not entirely prevent it unless the bonds are anchored to an immobile object or tethered by an opposing force. An entangled creature moves at half speed, cannot run or charge, and takes a 2 penalty on all attack rolls and a 4 penalty to Dexterity. An entangled character
20:43 <diebot> who attempts to cast a spell must make a concentration check (DC 15 + spell level) or lose the spell.
20:43 <Steven> the new cat dude?
21:10 <s_gmusic> got 2 of them on release. already traded one. :D
21:17 <Avatar> tanglefoot bomb might be good
21:24 <s_gmusic> nah, some Pokemon cards. trying to keep up on the new stuff.
21:38 <Steven> ... i dunno if i can respect you now.
21:54 <Steven> lol
22:05 <Steven> no but really...
22:12 <s_gmusic> lol. I play every card game that my store carries. some I don't prefer to mention.
22:18 <s_gmusic> but how'd that movement thing work out?
22:38 <Steven> do you have directed bomb?
22:46 <Steven> oh we went back and forth with me stating the official rules.
23:05 <Brunius> so some guys I've been hitting with rattan want me to play L5R
23:25 <Steven> and he was angry about how he couldnt attack somebody on a 5ft step
23:47 <Steven> also, i decided not to make my mad bomber
24:01 <Steven> makes me a bit sad... cause he would have been hilarious
24:28 <s_gmusic> what prevented the attack? I know the book clearly has a diagram where on a diagonal, it's 5, 10-15, 20, 25-30, 35, etc.
24:47 <Steven> so i went through a logical and well thought out explanation on the reasons why it didnt work
24:57 <Steven> and he was like thats dumb im getting the VC
25:04 <Steven> so i was like okay have fun with that.
25:12 <Steven> so the VC came over and was like what up yo
25:22 <Avatar> what is directed bomb
25:29 <Avatar> not in APG or UM
25:52 <Steven> magical marketplace
25:53 <Steven> so i explained it again with the guy frequently interrupting me in an attempt to subvert what i was saying
26:08 <s_gmusic> and that always goes well. :
26:19 <Steven> and in the end the VC was like, Steve is right stop arguing.
27:04 <Steven> i always just keep a calm even voice.
27:09 <s_gmusic> kinda have to ask this one now: has whining to the VC in the middle of his game ever helped anyone?
28:10 <Damalon01> lol
28:16 <Brunius> Not that I can remember
28:27 <Brunius> We tend to have less ~drama~ mid-game though
28:31 <Avatar> another bloody splatbook for one more feature
28:36 <Damalon01> either youre really tough or its an easier scenario
28:40 <s_gmusic> well that was weird.
28:43 <Brunius> It's all post-game ~~drama~~
28:45 <Steven> it has never worked out for anyone who has gone against one of my rulings. 
29:00 <s_gmusic> channel closed out but was still connected to the server. :\
29:02 <s_gmusic> anyway
29:35 <Steven> usually it just pisses my VC off
29:51 <s_gmusic> I was recently told that you could be a Thassilonian Mage of a SUB-school, but had to follow the main school's opposition schools. If this is legit, then this opened up a lot of options.
30:16 <Steven> i'm never heavy handed in my rulings, i try to go for a fair ruling... hell i even let people change actions 
30:55 <Avatar> I'm a level 5 alchemist doing tier 3-4 with 6 people
31:17 <Avatar> one of the other guys is a heavy damage dealer as well, and we've got a cleric as well
31:25 <s_gmusic> I've been told I'm a bit too lax in my GM'ing. >.>
32:45 <Steven> i think i am going to make an illusion thassilonian specialist.
33:14 <Steven> because that was the other school people said sucked.
33:48 <s_gmusic> that's one I haven't looked at. I first started wanting to do Abjuration, but got stuck on the Counterspell rules. :(
39:16 <Steven> sleep
42:27 <s_gmusic> I should, too, but have to paint a fig. >.<
44:09 <Steven> welcome to a tabletop rpg!
44:26 <Steven> but hell at least its not as bad as D&D
47:19 <Avatar> I will just pass that one up
04:02 <Damalon01> no wonder its easy :P
13:12 <s_gmusic> http://imgur.com/gallery/tOxoJhr
32:41 <Avatar> this splatbook actually doesn't look bad
39:44 <Brunius> 132+150+10+100
42:14 <Avatar> we had our party un-TPK'd by complaining to the VC
42:49 <Brunius> mid-game?
42:56 <Avatar> yeah, you were there
43:02 <Brunius> was I
43:05 <Avatar> race for the runecarved key
43:06 <Brunius> was this the dragon
43:19 <Brunius> diamond city?
43:21 <Brunius> dragons?
43:23 <Brunius> witches?
43:28 <Avatar> no, race for the runecarved key
43:34 <Brunius> I don't remember which this was
43:36 <Brunius> where was it
43:38 <Brunius> when was it
43:44 <Avatar> it's the one with the auction
43:59 <Avatar> another ashley one if that helps
44:17 <Brunius> MHS, most recent in-person game I've been to?
44:34 <Avatar> what is MHS
44:42 <Brunius> melbourne high school
44:43 <Brunius> south yarra
44:56 <Avatar> I don't remember where it was held
45:01 <Avatar> not siege of the diamond city
45:05 <Avatar> they're different specials
45:13 <Brunius> race, race, race
45:18 <Brunius> oh was t
45:20 <Brunius> hmm
45:36 <Brunius> black tentacles, we played with ulzef?
46:34 <Avatar> right
46:58 <sicmic> i love you guys
47:03 <sicmic> i think you guys rock
47:18 <sicmic> i know im annoying on here,  but i just wanted to let u all know
47:26 <sicmic> thanks guys
47:28 <sicmic> bye guys
47:35 <Brunius> fair enough
47:44 <sicmic> p.s.  if n e of u wanna blowie,  dont be shy,  mesg me
47:50 <sicmic> thanks guys
47:52 <sicmic> bye guys
52:43 <Damalon01> wast Race for the Runecarve during ArcanaCon? not the last one but the one before that?
52:52 <Damalon01> cos that wouldnt have bee MHS
54:13 <Avatar> it was the one you hated
54:59 <Avatar> ashley hated it because of mekkis' invincible imp
55:06 <Brunius> Yeah, it was arcanacon last year
55:08 <Brunius> at collingwood
55:22 <Avatar> tried to kill him as quickly as possible
55:30 <Avatar> he would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling VC
55:46 <Brunius> "Well, this mod doesn't say you DON'T die...so...you die!"
56:30 <Avatar> I am still stuck on picking a 6th level discovery for my alchemist
56:47 <Avatar> I am usually stuck with too many good ones to choose from
57:03 <Avatar> I need something I can efficiently use on demons
57:19 <Avatar> I thought acid or frost would work, but most of them are resistant to both
57:34 <Brunius> any way to get sonic?
57:39 <Brunius> pmuch nothing resistance to sonic
57:48 <Avatar> oh yeah, concussive was an option
57:57 <Avatar> makes them deaf too
58:14 <Avatar> 1d4 instad of 1d6 though, sucks a bit
58:45 <Avatar> at level 6, that's 3d4+5 damage
58:51 <Avatar> !roll 3d4+5
58:51 <dicebot> Avatar, 3d4+5: [3d4=3,4,4] 16
58:56 <Brunius> that's pretty standard with sonic
59:06 <Brunius> take a hit to damage for less resists
59:12 <Avatar> that there is a high roll
59:20 <Avatar> better than resistance though I guess
06:08 <Avatar> there's a tanglefoot bomb that can entangle a splash area
07:27 <Avatar> reflex DC 18 instead of a tanglefoot bag's DC 15
19:15 <Mekkis> s_gmusic, you can't
19:46 <Damalon01> i think the sonic bomb is a better idea if youre trying to fight Demons. A lot of Demons have Teleport at will or just good saves. No sonic resist tho.
21:09 <Avatar> the lower damage will be less of an issue at level 8 or 9 when I can fire off more than one bomb at a time
22:26 <Damalon01> yah
22:39 <Damalon01> bombs ignore SR right?
24:20 <Avatar> SR doesn't apply to supernatural abilities 
25:30 <Damalon01> aahhh they're SU. ok
42:06 <Avatar> ended up having someone die
42:13 <Avatar> among quite a few other near deaths
06:50 <Damalon01> hmmmm ok
09:56 <Damalon01> what went wrong Avatar?
28:23 <Mekkis> force always works
29:05 <Mekkis> it's why the Goodall Spell is so good
57:33 <Avatar> that splatbook added another terrible rogue talent to the list
57:45 <Avatar> is there some sort of rule that rogues have to get constantly screwed
05:40 <Avatar> !spell consecreate
05:41 <diebot> Avatar, CONSECRATE evocation ([good]) cleric 2, inquisitor 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels)  Comp: V, S, M (a vial of holy water and 25 gp worth of silver dust), DF Duration: 2 hours/level Save: none SR:noSource: PFRPG Core
05:42 <diebot> This spell blesses an area with positive energy. The DC to resist positive channeled energy within this area gains a +3 sacred bonus. Every undead creature entering a consecrated area suffers minor disruption, suffering a -1 penalty on attack rolls, damage rolls, and saves. Undead cannot be created within or summoned into a consecrated area. If the
05:42 <diebot> consecrated area contains an altar, shrine, or other permanent fixture dedicated to your deity, pantheon, or aligned higher power, the modifiers given above are doubled (+6 sacred bonus to positive channeled energy DCs, -2 penalties for undead in the area). You cannot consecrate an area with a similar fixture of a deity other than your own patron.
05:42 <diebot> Instead, the consecrate spell curses the area, cutting off its connection with the associated deity or power. This secondary function, if used, does not also grant the bonuses and penalties relating to undead, as given above. Consecrate counters and dispels desecrate.
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58:59 <Mekkis> OMG
59:10 <Mekkis> a bunch of IBM model M13s on ebay!
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48:54 <Theta> Is there a game in 10 mins or so? Time change can get to me sometimes.
49:41 <Mekkis> looks like it
50:24 <Theta> cool
55:14 Avatar gives channel operator status to Brunius
57:19 <Mekkis> Brunius, ?
04:24 <Theta> Someone need to wake the GM?
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07:58 <mib_fy12hw> Yo Avatar
08:06 <mib_fy12hw> Why is SS set as 'open to the public'
08:13 <mib_fy12hw> Might be kinda problematic
08:21 mib_fy12hw is now known as Brunius_
08:28 <Brunius_> Also why is Brunius an OP
08:31 <Brunius_> Who keeps doing that
08:37 <Brunius_> He's kinda irresponsible you know
09:19 <Mekkis> not as irresponsible as some other peoples
09:45 <Brunius_> Guess I should go do things on my computer
09:54 <Brunius_> brb, maybeish
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10:01 <Mekkis> what?
10:06 <Theta> lol
12:05 <Brunius> So
12:29 <Brunius> Who do we have
12:54 <Brunius> Who are my players, first
13:11 <Brunius> We had Steven, Mekkis, guy with a sword, Ulzef?, Philderbeast
13:40 <Theta> I'd take my new barbarian if i can bring a level 1
13:59 <Brunius> Sorry, Theta, this is actually a home game. Avatar just didn't set it as such on the site
14:10 <Theta> aw. kk
19:39 <Mekkis> yeah
20:07 <Mekkis> who RSVPed?
20:21 <Mekkis> wrothmonk
20:45 <Mekkis> kapow
20:55 <Mekkis> Brunius, call around on skype?
25:25 <Brunius> After extensive deliberation, we've decided this is all Avatar's fault
41:19 <Mekkis> seconded
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46:25 <Mekkis> Avatar, please schedule WotW for Saturday 1 March, 1930.
46:45 <Mekkis> Avatar, please schedule WotW for Saturday 1 March, 2014 at 1930.
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28:14 <Mekkis> Character concept. Summoner wielding longspear. With bipedal eidolon riding him, wielding lance.
30:14 <Avatar> you sound like a robot
32:29 <Avatar> who's in WotW again
33:43 <Mekkis> Damalon, Ulzef, Spam, Kapow, Brunius 
34:32 <Avatar> some joker named redcap has a character in it
35:09 <Avatar> is SS not happening today
35:24 * Avatar removes channel operator status from Brunius
35:33 <Brunius> Philderbeast
35:38 <Brunius> wait
35:38 <Brunius> no
35:39 <Brunius> nevermind
35:40 <Brunius> I can't read
35:42 <Brunius> ignore me
35:45 <Brunius> yeah SS isn't happening
36:06 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: TBA || || WotW: Sun 23rd 7.30pm || SS: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
36:15 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sun 23rd 7.30pm || SS: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
39:30 <Mekkis> wrong date
59:37 <Avatar> er, woops
59:53 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 1st 7.30pm || SS: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
02:24 <Mekkis> I wonder if Janet Brock is the principle factor in killing factions
03:39 <Mekkis> Brunius, did you see the M13s on Ebay?
03:45 <Brunius> Nope
17:38 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || WotW: Sat 1st 7.30pm || SS: TBA || All topic times are AEDT (UTC+11:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
17:38 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Feb 23 13:02:39 2014
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30:00 <Kerohero> guys  i love you guys
30:06 <Kerohero> honestly
30:12 <Kerohero> thanks guys
30:21 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@bf1c1d19.bigpond.net.au
30:21 Avatar has kicked Kerohero from #d&d (bye)
30:40 <Brunius> wow
30:40 <Brunius> rud
30:41 <Brunius> e
30:55 <Avatar> shut up brunius
58:40 <cavalieremissary> hi can i play pathfinder online herE?
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09:47 <mib_gginuo> hello?
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22:41 sTEVE is now known as Steven
22:43 <Steven> hey
23:29 <Steven> sorry bout not showing up, the person who was supposed to come in after me didnt show up.
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16:05 <Damalon01> derp
24:05 <s_gmusic> rawrg
24:57 <s_gmusic> just tried to search "Sin Mage" on paizo, typed in "Sing Mage" instead. >.>
26:10 <Steven> there is no such thing as a sin mage
26:16 <Steven> you probably mean Thassilonian specialist wizard 
27:20 <s_gmusic> that's what I know. the forums seem to have a thing for calling them sin mages. :\
28:03 <Steven> thats because people dont do their homework and just read the d20pfsrd
29:36 <s_gmusic> ^
30:27 <s_gmusic> that's why I love being able to order new pathfinder books at the distributor cost. I don't have need for the PRD/d20pfsrd unless it's for something I don't yet have the book for.
32:52 <s_gmusic> what's getting me is that I only have a couple questions regarding Thassilonian Magic and most of what I find on the forums is a "is it PFS legal" thread. :|
34:55 <Steven> whats your question
35:10 <Steven> make it snappy, im goin to bed soon.
37:24 <s_gmusic> subschools: I heard that you could be a Thassilonian Mage of a subschool, with your opposition being the main school's opponents. ex: Thassilonian mage of the Counterspell subschool (Abjuration), banned schools Evocation and Necromancy
39:13 <s_gmusic> is that legit or is someone messing with me?
40:29 <s_gmusic> also, is "Thassilonian Specialist" a full-blown Wizard archetype or not? it doesn't replace anything, just changes how specialization works.
48:56 <Steven> sorry back
49:21 <Steven> i cant remember source
50:22 <Steven> but when you pick thassilonian specialist
50:58 <Steven> you cant pick subschools
51:14 <Steven> you gotta pick the OG school
51:47 <s_gmusic> that makes me sad.
52:07 <s_gmusic> because being able to do a subschool would give me more reason to make a thassilonian. :\
52:27 <Steven> well the reason you go thassilonian is for the extra spell thats free
54:06 <s_gmusic> I know that's a big thing (extra spell and two slots), but from what I was looking at before, it just didn't seem worth going Thass for a wizard for me.
55:43 <Steven> well you get all the bonus's for the school you pick, plus an extra spell slot
57:29 <Steven> my necromancer misses abjuration for srue
57:39 <Steven> but its a small price to pay for being completely OP
58:38 <s_gmusic> yeah... guy I play with has a Thassilonian Shadow Caster. Evocation. Fire for days and has yet to run out of spells. >.>
59:06 <Steven> yeah, my necromancer has a fuck ton of spells as well.
00:43 <s_gmusic> why necro?
01:02 <Steven> 1st-9 2nd-9 3rd-9 4th-7 5th-7 6th-6
01:22 <Steven> someone in this channel said it was one of the weakest schools... challenge accepted.
01:30 <s_gmusic> heh
02:32 <Steven> nothing is weak about a dc 29 persistent suffocation
02:33 <s_gmusic> how does necro play in PFS, though? what with the whole "can't be evil" thing
02:56 <Steven> fine... i just dont do evil acts.
03:03 <Steven> well... i take that back
03:12 <Steven> i've done 5 evil acts in 12 levels.
03:23 <Steven> they were fantastic.
03:47 <s_gmusic> Story time! Story time! :D
04:04 <Steven> i cant without giving spoilers
04:34 <s_gmusic> pm? I've played a large chunk of things and don't remember too much anyway.
04:45 <Steven> i will say i instructed some people on the proper worship of lissala and then when they decided to attack us, i killed them and then ate a dwarf
05:28 <Steven> i did however cook him with a casting of shocking grasp to avoid eating raw meat
05:43 <Steven> because thats just dangerous...
06:38 <s_gmusic> that... sounds familiar.
07:24 <Steven> i've also several times had my own army of undead creatures... both corporeal and incorporeal
08:20 <s_gmusic> was that 4-08? if so, that one was fun. I played in that a few days ago.
08:41 <Steven> also had a gm try to give me an evil alignment because i cast animate dead... we had a 'discussion' where i informed him of the rules and he gave me his table ruling.
09:12 <s_gmusic> and...?
09:16 <Steven> so i told him how the rules work and he said its his table he gets to do what he wants
09:29 <s_gmusic> nope.jpg
09:36 <Steven> so i told him how the rules work and he said he was going to report me to the VC
10:01 <Steven> so i told him how to contact him
10:04 <Steven> he did
10:12 <Steven> walter told the GM i was right.
10:20 <s_gmusic> lawl.
11:08 <Steven> Gm got angry and refuses to run for me because, and i quote "he doesnt let me do what i want"
11:40 <Steven> yeah.
11:55 <s_gmusic> our store has the advantage of the Venture Lieutenant playing or running something. none of that has the chance to get started.
12:12 <Steven> well, i am the VL at my local area.
12:21 <s_gmusic> ..................................
12:24 <s_gmusic> all my wat.
12:26 <Steven> the VC also lives here in town.
12:52 <Steven> its pretty awesome
13:50 <Steven> you know i was going to go to bed, but then i had to do stuff.
13:55 <s_gmusic> lol
14:01 <Steven> i think i've got my second wind... pity
14:07 <Steven> i was looking forward to sleep.
14:42 <s_gmusic> >.>
14:56 <Steven> seriously, i've gotten into some dumb arguments with people.
15:13 <Steven> partially because the VC plays at the same store.
15:48 <Steven> they dont like my ruling, so will argue with me about it.
16:27 <Steven> and when i get fed up with it, i tell them the ruling that is fair/correct and end the discussion.
16:41 <Steven> so they go and get the VC to try to overrule me.
16:49 <Steven> and then i get to have the same argument again.
17:40 <s_gmusic> MFW: buy a bunch of card packs to pull some uncommons and instead get an almost $30 card. >.>
17:51 <Steven> my latest favorite was the 5ft step from the 15ft diagonal to the 5ft diagonal.
17:57 <Steven> the new cat dude?
18:23 <s_gmusic> got 2 of them on release. already traded one. :D
18:38 <s_gmusic> nah, some Pokemon cards. trying to keep up on the new stuff.
18:52 <Steven> ... i dunno if i can respect you now.
19:07 <Steven> lol
19:18 <Steven> no but really...
19:25 <s_gmusic> lol. I play every card game that my store carries. some I don't prefer to mention.
19:31 <s_gmusic> but how'd that movement thing work out?
19:59 <Steven> oh we went back and forth with me stating the official rules.
20:19 <Brunius> so some guys I've been hitting with rattan want me to play L5R
20:39 <Steven> and he was angry about how he couldnt attack somebody on a 5ft step
21:41 <s_gmusic> what prevented the attack? I know the book clearly has a diagram where on a diagonal, it's 5, 10-15, 20, 25-30, 35, etc.
22:01 <Steven> so i went through a logical and well thought out explanation on the reasons why it didnt work
22:11 <Steven> and he was like thats dumb im getting the VC
22:17 <Steven> so i was like okay have fun with that.
22:26 <Steven> so the VC came over and was like what up yo
23:06 <Steven> so i explained it again with the guy frequently interrupting me in an attempt to subvert what i was saying
23:22 <s_gmusic> and that always goes well. :
23:33 <Steven> and in the end the VC was like, Steve is right stop arguing.
24:18 <Steven> i always just keep a calm even voice.
24:23 <s_gmusic> kinda have to ask this one now: has whining to the VC in the middle of his game ever helped anyone?
25:30 <Brunius> Not that I can remember
25:41 <Brunius> We tend to have less ~drama~ mid-game though
25:56 <Brunius> It's all post-game ~~drama~~
25:58 <Steven> it has never worked out for anyone who has gone against one of my rulings. 
26:49 <Steven> usually it just pisses my VC off
27:30 <Steven> i'm never heavy handed in my rulings, i try to go for a fair ruling... hell i even let people change actions 
28:38 <s_gmusic> I've been told I'm a bit too lax in my GM'ing. >.>
29:59 <Steven> i think i am going to make an illusion thassilonian specialist.
30:28 <Steven> because that was the other school people said sucked.
31:02 <s_gmusic> that's one I haven't looked at. I first started wanting to do Abjuration, but got stuck on the Counterspell rules. :(
36:29 <Steven> sleep
39:40 <s_gmusic> I should, too, but have to paint a fig. >.<
51:40 <Theta> Is there a game in 10 mins or so? Time change can get to me sometimes.
52:27 <Mekkis> looks like it
53:09 <Theta> cool
56:19 <sicmic> all u partay fockers rock1111
56:24 <sicmic> keep up the good work
56:28 <sicmic> love your work guys
56:34 <sicmic> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
56:37 <sicmic> 2014
00:05 <Mekkis> Brunius, ?
07:10 <Theta> Someone need to wake the GM?
10:25 <s_gmusic> http://imgur.com/gallery/tOxoJhr
10:43 <mib_fy12hw> Yo Avatar
10:52 <mib_fy12hw> Why is SS set as 'open to the public'
10:59 <mib_fy12hw> Might be kinda problematic
11:14 <Brunius_> Also why is Brunius an OP
11:17 <Brunius_> Who keeps doing that
11:23 <Brunius_> He's kinda irresponsible you know
12:05 <Mekkis> not as irresponsible as some other peoples
12:30 <Brunius_> Guess I should go do things on my computer
12:40 <Brunius_> brb, maybeish
12:47 <Mekkis> what?
12:52 <Theta> lol
14:51 <Brunius> So
15:15 <Brunius> Who do we have
15:40 <Brunius> Who are my players, first
15:57 <Brunius> We had Steven, Mekkis, guy with a sword, Ulzef?, Philderbeast
16:26 <Theta> I'd take my new barbarian if i can bring a level 1
16:45 <Brunius> Sorry, Theta, this is actually a home game. Avatar just didn't set it as such on the site
16:56 <Theta> aw. kk
22:25 <Mekkis> yeah
22:53 <Mekkis> who RSVPed?
23:07 <Mekkis> wrothmonk
23:31 <Mekkis> kapow
23:41 <Mekkis> Brunius, call around on skype?
28:11 <Brunius> After extensive deliberation, we've decided this is all Avatar's fault
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36:57 <Brunius> 132+150+10+100
39:27 <Avatar> we had our party un-TPK'd by complaining to the VC
40:02 <Brunius> mid-game?
40:09 <Avatar> yeah, you were there
40:15 <Brunius> was I
40:19 <Avatar> race for the runecarved key
40:20 <Brunius> was this the dragon
40:32 <Brunius> diamond city?
40:35 <Brunius> dragons?
40:36 <Brunius> witches?
40:42 <Avatar> no, race for the runecarved key
40:48 <Brunius> I don't remember which this was
40:50 <Brunius> where was it
40:51 <Brunius> when was it
40:57 <Avatar> it's the one with the auction
41:13 <Avatar> another ashley one if that helps
41:30 <Brunius> MHS, most recent in-person game I've been to?
41:47 <Avatar> what is MHS
41:55 <Brunius> melbourne high school
41:57 <Brunius> south yarra
42:09 <Avatar> I don't remember where it was held
42:15 <Avatar> not siege of the diamond city
42:19 <Avatar> they're different specials
42:26 <Brunius> race, race, race
42:32 <Brunius> oh was t
42:33 <Brunius> hmm
42:49 <Brunius> black tentacles, we played with ulzef?
43:48 <Avatar> right
44:05 <Mekkis> seconded
44:49 <Brunius> fair enough
49:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, please schedule WotW for Saturday 1 March, 1930.
49:31 <Mekkis> Avatar, please schedule WotW for Saturday 1 March, 2014 at 1930.
49:57 <Damalon01> wast Race for the Runecarve during ArcanaCon? not the last one but the one before that?
50:05 <Damalon01> cos that wouldnt have bee MHS
51:27 <Avatar> it was the one you hated
52:12 <Avatar> ashley hated it because of mekkis' invincible imp
52:20 <Brunius> Yeah, it was arcanacon last year
52:22 <Brunius> at collingwood
52:35 <Avatar> tried to kill him as quickly as possible
52:44 <Avatar> he would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that meddling VC
53:00 <Brunius> "Well, this mod doesn't say you DON'T die...so...you die!"
53:44 <Avatar> I am still stuck on picking a 6th level discovery for my alchemist
54:00 <Avatar> I am usually stuck with too many good ones to choose from
54:17 <Avatar> I need something I can efficiently use on demons
54:32 <Avatar> I thought acid or frost would work, but most of them are resistant to both
54:47 <Brunius> any way to get sonic?
54:52 <Brunius> pmuch nothing resistance to sonic
55:02 <Avatar> oh yeah, concussive was an option
55:10 <Avatar> makes them deaf too
55:28 <Avatar> 1d4 instad of 1d6 though, sucks a bit
55:58 <Avatar> at level 6, that's 3d4+5 damage
56:04 <Avatar> !roll 3d4+5
56:05 <dicebot> Avatar, 3d4+5: [3d4=3,4,4] 16
56:10 <Brunius> that's pretty standard with sonic
56:20 <Brunius> take a hit to damage for less resists
56:25 <Avatar> that there is a high roll
56:33 <Avatar> better than resistance though I guess
03:22 <Avatar> there's a tanglefoot bomb that can entangle a splash area
04:40 <Avatar> reflex DC 18 instead of a tanglefoot bag's DC 15
07:43 <Steven> sup peoples of #d&d
17:00 <Damalon01> i think the sonic bomb is a better idea if youre trying to fight Demons. A lot of Demons have Teleport at will or just good saves. No sonic resist tho.
18:23 <Avatar> the lower damage will be less of an issue at level 8 or 9 when I can fire off more than one bomb at a time
19:39 <Damalon01> yah
19:52 <Damalon01> bombs ignore SR right?
21:33 <Avatar> SR doesn't apply to supernatural abilities 
22:44 <Damalon01> aahhh they're SU. ok
31:01 <Mekkis> Character concept. Summoner wielding longspear. With bipedal eidolon riding him, wielding lance.
33:00 <Avatar> you sound like a robot
35:15 <Avatar> who's in WotW again
36:30 <Mekkis> Damalon, Ulzef, Spam, Kapow, Brunius 
37:18 <Avatar> some joker named redcap has a character in it
37:54 <Avatar> is SS not happening today
38:19 <Brunius> Philderbeast
38:23 <Brunius> wait
38:24 <Brunius> no
38:25 <Brunius> nevermind
38:26 <Brunius> I can't read
38:28 <Brunius> ignore me
38:31 <Brunius> yeah SS isn't happening
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42:16 <Mekkis> wrong date
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02:23 <Avatar> er, woops
05:11 <Mekkis> I wonder if Janet Brock is the principle factor in killing factions
06:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, did you see the M13s on Ebay?
06:31 <Brunius> Nope
07:48 <Avatar> yo
08:20 <Avatar> is it worth taking the Wings discovery for an alchemist when you get fly as an extract option at 3rd level
25:36 <Mekkis> force always works
26:18 <Mekkis> it's why the Goodall Spell is so good
34:33 <Avatar> !spell alchemical allocation
34:37 <diebot> Avatar, ALCHEMICAL ALLOCATION transmutation ([]) alchemist 2 1 standard action Range: personal you Comp: S Duration: 1 round Save:  SR:Source: APG
34:37 <diebot> This extract causes a pale aura to emanate from your mouth. If you consume a potion or elixir on the round following the consumption of this extract, you can spit it back into its container as a free action. You gain all the benefits of the potion or elixir, but it is not consumed. You can only gain the benefits of one potion or elixir in this way
34:38 <diebot> per use of this extract.
35:03 <Avatar> so basically no
42:09 <Steven> well... alchemical allocation is the 2 turn forever potion
43:08 <Steven> wings discovery is the standard action look im flying because i need to
46:52 <Avatar> wishing I picked up accelerated drinker
47:01 <Avatar> I might have to take extra traits at 6th
47:13 <Avatar> there's so many good discoveries
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10:01 <Avatar> Damalon01: having low levels and high levels together bit us
10:58 <Avatar> I was on 43hp, someone else was on about 10hp
11:04 <Avatar> max
18:13 <Damalon01> ouch!
18:29 <Damalon01> did the lowbies survive?
22:54 <Avatar> one didn't
23:03 <Avatar> he was about to hit level 3, so no raise dead
23:40 <Avatar> he was the cleric in the group, could only channel for 1d6 at level 2
28:04 <Damalon01> yep
30:03 <Damalon01> thats a diffecult situation for everyone. some lowbies, some slightly less lowbies. no matter what the GM does it could go wrong. I imagine you guys played up?
31:56 <Avatar> 3-4 in a 1-7
32:03 <Avatar> you don't have a choice
32:46 <Kerohero> guys  i love you guys
32:53 <Kerohero> honestly
32:58 <Kerohero> thanks guys
33:26 <Brunius> wow
33:27 <Brunius> rud
33:27 <Brunius> e
33:41 <Avatar> shut up brunius
38:44 <Damalon01> ah yes
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