// #d&d — 2013-09-28
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00:31:16 <Steven> hey
00:33:18 <Yiroep> Hi.
00:37:53 <CWheezy> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2q7dp?Mythic-Feather-Fall-can-oneshot-almost
00:37:55 <CWheezy> hahahaha
00:37:59 <CWheezy> wizards are the fucking best
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01:08:08 <Steven> so how everybody doin?
01:08:30 <Yiroep> Good. GMed Goblinblood Dead last night.
01:08:41 <Yiroep> My 59th GM credit. One more and i'm 3 star! :)
01:08:43 <Steven> fun scenario.
01:08:56 <Yiroep> Yeah, I really like it.
01:10:01 <Yiroep> Had an awesome group. 2 new players, and they actually said they want to come back, so that's good.
01:10:15 <Yuugi> Cool.
01:11:47 <Steven> yeah i played it a while ago after GMing it, we were all level 2 and 3, and gm(who always played up.) decided for us to play up as we were APL of around 3.3 w/ party size adjustment.
01:12:08 <Steven> so we are running through it and im not paying a great amount of attention.
01:12:23 <Steven> and then like 3 people died in the first fight.
01:12:30 <Yuugi> xD
01:12:35 <Yiroep> The first fight??
01:12:38 <Steven> and im like... this shouldnt be this rough for 1-2 tier.
01:12:54 <Steven> and he was like, no you guys are doing 4-5 tier.
01:12:59 <Yiroep> LOL
01:13:34 <Yiroep> Yeah, the 4-5 subtier is REALLY meant for 4-5's in that one.
01:14:04 <Yiroep> We had an unforunate x4 crit in a certain battle on that one when I played it....
01:14:14 <Yiroep> (@ 4-5)
01:14:20 <Steven> so we got to have a discussion about how to calculate APL and giving people the choice of when to play up or down.
01:14:53 <Steven> yeah, first time i GM'd it i killed 2 people.
01:17:15 <Yiroep> I did the 1-2 subtier last night and they had 2 level 3's....
01:17:20 <Yiroep> So they had a pretty easy time.
01:18:00 <Steven> its fun... so far i've got a survival rate on the worgs of 80%
01:18:21 <Yiroep> They had 2 friggin paladins and they didn't kill it.
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01:18:25 <Yiroep> I was surprised.
01:18:49 <Steven> musta been more of the Lawful paladins then the good paladins
01:19:05 <Steven> im reading through dragons demand right now.
01:19:16 <Yiroep> Yeah, Imma GM that one soon. :)
01:19:19 <Yiroep> I'm excited.
01:19:20 <Steven> hopefully im feeling better by tomorrow.
01:19:26 <Yiroep> It's really well written.
01:19:28 <Steven> cause i wanna run it.
01:19:54 <Steven> a lot of people are bitching its mostly dungeon crawl
01:20:02 <Yiroep> I hope Wardens of the Reborn Forge is as well written.
01:20:07 <Steven> and im not understanding where they are getting that from.
01:20:13 <Yiroep> What???
01:20:17 <Yiroep> There's tons of RP moments in that!
01:20:23 <Yiroep> Like, enormous amounts.
01:20:37 <Steven> i know... i guess if you're players are all blunt instruments its a dungeon crawl.
01:21:17 <Yiroep> Man, half the fun of Goblinblood yesterday was introducing them to the caravan.
01:21:22 <Yiroep> That was hilarious.
01:22:32 <Yiroep> Are you running "home game" mode for DD?
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01:23:32 <Steven> yeah i plan on it.
01:24:05 <Yiroep> I was also. I actually incorporate some things from 3.5 and ban things I don't like in Pathfinder to get my "perfect ruleset."
01:24:10 <Yiroep> Like I hate the Antagonize feat.
01:25:54 <Steven> yeah i hate the antagonize feat a lot.
01:25:57 <Yiroep> And I really liked spellthieves and Magic of Incarnum from 3.5.
01:26:39 <Yiroep> Even though sandman bard is kinda a spellthief...but meh.
01:26:47 <Steven> I had a mob running away and someone is like antagonize.... oh... yeah it totally makes sense that a guy thats running away is going to turn around attempt to fight...
01:27:15 <Yiroep> I haven't had someone use it yet.
01:27:21 <Yiroep> But I don't ever want it.
01:27:25 <Steven> i mean... he just saw you murder 4 of his buddies without taking a scratch... totally makes sense he can take you.
01:27:41 <CWheezy> well it does because that's what the feat does
01:28:38 <Steven> no wheezy it doesnt. The feat is a terrible feat
01:29:11 <CWheezy> he creature flies into a rage. On its next turn, the target must attempt to make a melee attack against you, make a ranged attack against you, target you with a spell, or include you in the area of a spell.
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01:30:16 <Yiroep> I just don't like it cause it's far to easy to get intimidate checks that will never fail against anything.
01:30:20 <Yiroep> So the feat works 100% of the time.
01:30:26 <Yiroep> too*
01:31:11 <Steven> yeah, a group of PCs murder a couple of guys and their dragon overlord, the last mook decided hey its time to get the fuck gone and starts running away. Someone antagonizes the last mook and all of a sudden hes like "no wait i can kill them!"
01:31:21 <CWheezy> yes, exactly
01:31:26 <CWheezy> because that is how the feat works
01:31:32 <Steven> yeah, its a stupid feat.
01:31:44 <CWheezy> it is really terrible actually
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01:32:54 <Steven> yeah except all those times when its a ridiculously overpowered feat of hey ignore the rest of my party Mr. Barbarian and charge through all those provoking squares and try to hit my 35AC...
01:32:56 <CWheezy> I have fought a bunch of things that don't speak common
01:33:13 <CWheezy> well yeah you can create ridiculous situations if you want
01:33:30 <Steven> yeah... which is totally hard to do in PFS.
01:34:14 <CWheezy> attempting to attack you would harm it
01:34:17 <CWheezy> so it wouldn't attack you
01:34:55 <Yiroep> That's kind of a slippery slope.
01:35:06 <Yiroep> Cause you could say that every time a person uses the feat.
01:35:11 <CWheezy> no
01:35:18 <CWheezy> it calls out wall of fire and chasm
01:35:34 <CWheezy> I think aoos count in there
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01:36:07 <Steven> except for it doesnt count AoOs.
01:37:15 <CWheezy> based off what
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01:37:43 <CWheezy> I know people like kyle baird read things like the wrist sheath can only hold "arrows a knife, etc."
01:37:55 <CWheezy> that are just in the description
01:37:59 <Yiroep> Tempted to make a petition thread to ban it. My local venture-captain said it's been considered before by the leadership.
01:38:30 <CWheezy> hopefully that wouldn't happen!
01:38:43 <Yiroep> Hopefully that will happen.
01:38:58 <CWheezy> yeah I guess you are right
01:39:06 <CWheezy> it is a combat feat not about swinging a sword
01:41:09 <Steven> Based off moving by a person isnt considered an immediately apparent threat to your survival, unless of course everyone between you and them have a readied action to attack you.
01:41:49 <CWheezy> wut
01:42:13 <CWheezy> have they never fought in their own world before or something
01:43:10 <Steven> because you can attempt to acrobatics, they might miss, they may have used their AoO on something else and may not have combat reflexes...
01:43:32 <CWheezy> only if you are trained in acrobatics
01:43:45 <CWheezy> that is similar then to the chasm, because you could jump over the chasm
01:44:12 <Steven> yeah, if you can jump over the chasm then antagonize still works
01:44:13 <CWheezy> which is specifically called out as unsafe
01:44:35 <CWheezy> and will negate antagonize
01:44:42 <CWheezy> anyway you can always just do a ranged attack
01:44:44 <CWheezy> just throw a rock
01:46:27 <Steven> point being antagonize is stupid and is very easily abused.
01:46:53 <Steven> At the very least it should have a range on it
01:47:16 <CWheezy> I am not seeing any abuse at all
01:47:21 <CWheezy> except using it as written
01:47:31 <CWheezy> range would be hearing range
01:48:09 <Steven> yeah should probably have a 30ft range.
01:48:42 <CWheezy> why not the same range as dominate and charm spells
01:49:23 <Steven> goin to the store, peace.
02:20:47 <Steven> back
02:20:58 <Steven> i foolishly forgot to get things
02:21:07 <Steven> i may have to go back again later today
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02:30:00 <CWheezy> I hate that
02:30:04 <CWheezy> even when I write a list
02:30:19 <CWheezy> I sometimes miss things on my list
02:30:25 <CWheezy> that I instantly realize when I get home
02:31:41 <Steven> yuuuuup\
02:50:02 <Steven> ill do it tonight... i dont feel like going out again quite yet
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03:00:01 <Steven> cant decide if i wanna go Barb5/Oracle1 or a different level combination
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05:00:43 <Steven> just gonna go with 3/3
05:35:25 <Avatar> goya's signed up for tomorrow's game
05:37:07 <Avatar> looks like we're playing down unless ballig brings his level 4 guy
05:38:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what game is tomorrow?
05:38:34 <Avatar> among the living
05:38:39 <Avatar> can you guys not see games
05:38:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ah, done that one
05:38:46 <Avatar> that's the third time I've been asked about games going on
05:38:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I see the sun29th 11am (tier 1-5, kapow) thing
05:38:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but it didn't say what game
05:39:15 <Avatar> okay as long as they're not hidden or something
05:39:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmm, because if it was something I could play with ava (or anyone) I would probably
05:39:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> since I've got nothing planned for tomorrow, but I did among the living a month or 2 ago
05:40:19 <Avatar> kapow has been planning on the among series for about a year
05:41:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's cool and all, unless they've made a rule about being able to replay a scenario for credit of a dead character, I can not join
05:41:17 <Avatar> I'm still not confident with my paladin build
05:41:23 <Avatar> might have to look at my wizard instead
05:41:31 <Avatar> my OTHER level 2 character :(
05:42:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh
05:43:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm still not sure what I want to do as my other character, I've got the oracle pyromancer, but that's a bit dull, and I've got ideas of a detective, but it doesn't look like it'll be useful till level 5 or 6, so that'll be a GM credit baby
05:45:33 <Avatar> sacrificing con on a wizard in favour of dex is shit isn't it
05:45:58 <Avatar> where is steven
05:46:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> depends how much con you're going down to
05:46:25 <Avatar> it's 14, but dex is 16
05:46:34 <Avatar> which seems pointless since he's going to get hit no matter what, probably
05:47:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the bonus dex is for ray/ranged touch spells
05:47:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not for defense
05:47:23 <Avatar> hp are more important than to-hit for touch spells
05:47:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> depends if you think +1hp per level is better than +1 to hit
05:47:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> most people would suggest +1hp per level, but it depends if you're primary form of combat use is ranged touch
05:48:22 <Avatar> I don't know why I feel like I'm in over my head with these new characters
05:48:26 <Avatar> PFS has made me paranoid
05:49:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because of season 4 and 5?
05:50:44 <Avatar> yeah season 4
05:51:08 <Avatar> and 27 prestige retraining
05:51:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
05:51:53 <Avatar> maybe I could put 15 dex 15 con
05:51:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> season 4 was because instead of trying to deal with OP characters who cakewalk through scenarios, they instead require parties to be made up of mostly OP characters
05:52:10 <Avatar> yeah that was shit
05:52:17 <Avatar> they should have made the game easier, not harder
05:52:20 <Avatar> if they wanted to discourage munchkins
05:52:36 <Avatar> now everyone's a gunslinger
05:53:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup, or has 30 odd ac at level 2
05:53:50 <Avatar> I'd love to know how to get 30 odd AC at level 2
05:54:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 30 is doable
05:54:11 <Avatar> I'm seriously considering 15 dex/15 con
05:54:14 <Avatar> is that crazy
05:54:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> depends if you'll ever level either of them
05:54:27 <Avatar> I'll get a bump at 4th and 8th when it becomes important
05:54:40 <Avatar> oh wait, then I lose out on int
05:57:26 <Avatar> wait I sec I can do a triple-dump-stat build and get 16 dex/con and 20 int still
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05:57:49 <Avatar> do I really want to go there
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05:58:22 <Avatar> oh wait, it's not enough, that'll only give me 15 and 156
05:58:24 <Avatar> and 16
05:59:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the question is, do you want -2 will?
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06:00:06 <Avatar> the character already had -2 wis and -1 str for some reason
06:00:11 <Avatar> I quickly swapped those around
06:19:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so what's this for?
06:19:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> are you turning a character into a wizard, or this a new wizard?
06:30:13 <Avatar> what do you mean
06:30:28 <Avatar> it's a wizard
06:30:44 <Avatar> ah, new wizard
06:31:08 <Avatar> level 1 retraining on both of these characters
06:31:39 <Avatar> this is the only problem with GMing first steps, you don't get to test drive the characters you're putting credit on
06:34:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that reminds me, since FS2 and 3 are gone, does that mean there is only 1 replayable scenario where you actually get to use your own character?
06:46:56 <Avatar> yeah
06:47:37 <Avatar> level 1 modules as well I guess
07:01:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea, but the level 1 modules you don't play your own character
07:01:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> fortress is APG pregens, we be goblins and we be goblins too are goblin pregens
07:01:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so only FS1 is your own character
07:01:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which is a tad saddening
07:02:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unless there are more replayable ones I'm missing
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07:07:58 <Yuugi> Hi/
07:12:19 <Avatar> yo
07:18:16 <Avatar> yes you do
07:18:19 <Avatar> only we be goblins you don't
07:18:41 <Avatar> not sure about masters of the fallen fortress
07:18:53 <Avatar> I've never heard of that being pregens though?
07:27:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> masters of the fallen fortress has 6 pregens in the back, each the iconic of the APG classes
07:27:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I believe you must play one of them, in we be goblin style
08:07:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you going to the whole weekend brunius?
08:08:24 <Steven> suuuuuuuuuuuuup peoples
08:08:56 <Avatar> had to ask you something last night
08:09:01 <Avatar> I forget what
08:09:36 <Steven> thats odd... i dont remember what it was either.
08:09:57 <Avatar> something about con on a paladin
08:10:05 <Mekkis> should be more than 10
08:10:12 <Mekkis> Asmel died to teach you this
08:10:12 <Avatar> more than 14?
08:10:23 <Mekkis> I think 14 is sufficient
08:10:31 <Avatar> I'm not so sure anymore
08:10:39 <Steven> if you go and do a super AC build you can get away with less then 14con
08:10:39 <Avatar> I'm wondering if I should drop his 12 dex to make more con
08:10:42 <Avatar> or 12 int
08:10:54 <Mekkis> I think if you think you need more than 14 con, you need to revise how you play the character
08:10:54 <Avatar> I definitely don't want less than 14
08:10:58 <Avatar> I'm looking at more than 14
08:11:05 <Avatar> hp 4eva
08:11:32 <Steven> you want high cha, con, str. the higher the better
08:20:22 <Brunius> only sunday I think
08:20:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you've signed up for sat
08:20:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> at least on warhorn
08:38:54 <Brunius> have i
08:39:00 <Brunius> I thought I cleaned that up
08:39:36 <Brunius> I don't see any I'm signed up to
08:45:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> didn't realise you changed it recently
21:36:22 <Yuugi> :(
21:36:32 <Yuugi> Ah well.
21:36:46 <Goya> As long as you can PRINT the PDF - and you bought it - that's legal.
21:37:36 <Yuugi> >_>
21:37:47 <Yuugi> That doesn't really make sense but okay
21:37:54 <Goya> They would have watermarked the pages when printed if they didn't want it to be printed.
21:38:29 <Yuugi> They ARE watermarked...
21:38:55 <Yuugi> In fact, all legally bought PDFs (except from e23) that I have are watermarked.
21:39:11 <Goya> How bad is the watermark?
21:39:32 <Yuugi> What do you mean?
21:39:47 <Goya> I have a marvel SpiderMan DVD (PDFs of hundreds of comics) - the watermark makes it illegible - which means they don't want you printing it - at all.
21:39:59 <Brunius> all the paizo watermarks are a single line at the top and bottom
21:40:12 <Brunius> "Username, email address, date"
21:40:25 <Goya> Paizo stuff should be fine to print. As long as you own the PDF.
21:40:29 <Yuugi> DrivethruRPG also has a watermark like that
21:40:42 <Yuugi> Name + order #
21:40:55 <Goya> That should be fine to print. For 'personal use only'.
21:41:02 <Yuugi> I hope so.
21:41:33 <Goya> As long as you're not going to sell it on eBay or something - you're fine.
21:41:42 <Yuugi> Basically, for my immediate needs, my club for tabletop RPGs at college is starting up
21:41:51 <Yuugi> And I want to print out the D&D Basic Rules from 1981
21:41:56 <Yuugi> And have it at the booth
21:41:59 <Yuugi> To show off
21:42:13 <Yuugi> Just as like something for eye candy
21:42:25 <Yuugi> But then I'd also want to print out the module I keep trying to run here
21:42:33 <Yuugi> So that I can run it when the meetings start
21:42:46 <Yuugi> The rulebook is 64 pages
21:42:49 <Yuugi> And the module is 32
21:42:57 <Yuugi> I could put them together with a regular stapler.
21:43:02 <Goya> Erm. That should be fine. Except that you can't distribute it.
21:43:10 <Yuugi> But, the problem comes when I'm working with 200-500+ books
21:43:29 <Goya> Get a bigger stapler?
21:43:32 <Yuugi> XD
21:43:35 <Yuugi> Staples don't go that far
21:43:43 <Yuugi> Nor do brass fasteners I think
21:43:46 <Goya> Bind them? ;)
21:43:48 <Yuugi> (they only go to like 200)
21:43:51 <Yuugi> I'd have to bind them yeah
21:43:58 <Yuugi> But I don't even know if spiral bound goes up to 500
21:44:00 <Yuugi> :(
21:44:15 <Goya> What module has 500 pages?
21:44:54 <Goya> Especially basic D&D. Those were lucky to be 32-64.
21:45:21 <Yuugi> The rulebook for Tenra Bansho Zero is like 450+ pages
21:45:28 <Goya> Even at 500 pages - print double sided - and bind.
21:45:39 <Yuugi> It's also a weird format because it's meant to be bound like a manga book
21:45:55 <Goya> I have no idea what that is. Sounds like manga though. SO - bind in reverse. ;P
21:46:22 <Yuugi> no
21:46:26 <Yuugi> I mean page size
21:46:30 <Yuugi> Is not standard A4
21:46:34 <Yuugi> But smaller
21:46:43 <Yuugi> Also
21:46:51 <Yuugi> @_@
21:46:52 <Yuugi> man
21:46:58 <Yuugi> This is just making me freak out now
21:47:29 <Goya> If it's a PDF - you can 'scale' and print on standard paper. Or scale and print 2-page to 1 and use a paper cutter.
21:47:53 <Yuugi> no
21:48:38 <Goya> Or not.
21:50:00 <Yuugi> I'm not blowing up the awesome artwork
21:50:21 <Yuugi> I'm going to probably use a professional printer for that one.
21:50:23 <Yuugi> Hm
21:51:13 <Goya> Might as well just buy the damn book for $50. =P
21:52:14 <Goya> You get credit for the PDF purchase.
21:53:10 <Yuugi> The PDF world goes beyond Paizo you know.
21:53:16 <Yuugi> Not all of them operate like that.
21:53:31 <Goya> No - they do.
21:53:34 <Goya> http://kotodama.bigcartel.com/product/tenra-bansho-zero-preorder-softcover-book-set
21:53:45 <Goya> You get credit for the PDF. ;)
21:53:56 <Yuugi> oh
21:53:58 <Yuugi> Meh
21:54:57 <Goya> They also have some sort of maid RPG... Interesting.
21:55:36 <Yuugi> Yeah the guy who translated TBZ also did Maid
21:57:07 <Goya> You're a maid who happens to be a 'shy albino princess' who does work for the yakuza - loves sweets - and happens to be a military cyborg?
21:57:30 <CWheezy> yeah the maid rpg is really fantastic
21:57:37 <CWheezy> finally you can be your waifu
21:57:37 <Goya> *raises an eyebrow* They're covering all the bases aren't they?
21:57:50 <Yuugi> Yes
21:58:14 <Yuugi> It's a fairly accurate description, too, as character creation is rolled on random tables
21:58:24 <Yuugi> So you can actually have a character like that.
21:59:30 <Goya> The description of the game just leaves me speechless.
21:59:45 <Yuugi> n_n
22:00:05 <Goya> I don't know whether that's out of delight, awe, or shock...
22:00:46 <Goya> Netherworld, ninjas, wherewolves, cyborgs, maids, albino princesses.. Dear Lord..
22:01:02 <Goya> It's creative - I give it that.
22:03:23 <Goya> Maybe my next PFS char will be an albino elven wherewolf zombie-cyborg maid-ranger (who likes cupcakes)?
22:04:16 <Goya> I'll just say "sumimasen" and curtsy now and again - between arrows. ;)
22:04:59 <Goya> (Ok - I kid - my bad =/ )
22:05:49 <Goya> Oddly - the game has my interest to some degree - which disturbs me on some level. Maybe I've watched too much anime over the years...
22:05:59 <Yuugi> heee
22:06:14 <Yuugi> nothing wrong with a healthy interest in maids.
22:11:13 <Goya> As long as you work for (or own) a Merry Maids franchise... =P
22:57:33 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 29th 11am (tier 1-5,kapow) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au .
22:57:33 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Sep 24 19:20:16 2013
22:57:33 <***> Buffer Playback...
22:57:36 <***> Playback Complete.
23:02:04 <Goya> NOT that anyone is interested - but - Batman Arkham Asylum/City, Lego Batman, Mass Effect (1-3), and Dead Island are available on Steam (Origin for ME) at $4-$6/ea.
23:03:54 <Yuugi> hm
23:05:26 <Goya> I've been DL/ing Arkham City for ~ 4 hrs now. =/
23:10:12 <Ballig> arkham asylum and arkham city are good
23:10:35 <Ballig> definitely makes you feel like a badass batman
23:10:51 <Goya> I have Asylum for PS3. Picked up City for PC.
23:11:28 <Goya> Just wish it wasn't 16GB...
23:14:46 <CWheezy> same with goddamn xcom
23:14:50 <CWheezy> why is it so damn big
23:20:37 <Goya> I haven't played XCOM yet..
23:20:52 <Goya> Waiting for it to go on sale for $5 or so. =P
23:21:28 <CWheezy> xcom is pretty ballin
23:21:35 <Goya> It looks pretty good
23:21:37 <CWheezy> I think I have some video of me playing ironman impossible
23:22:37 <CWheezy> nah unfortunately not
23:22:44 <CWheezy> it has some problems
23:22:46 <CWheezy> but all games do
23:22:54 <Goya> heh
23:22:58 <CWheezy> despite that, it is pretty fun, and a nice change of pace from many modern games
23:25:06 <boris> why doesnt my id say what i want it to say
23:26:50 <Goya> Because the 'id' is 'unconscious instinct'. ;)
23:27:15 <boris> cool
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