// #d&d — 2013-09-12
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00:13:28 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 14th 10am (tier 1-5,Avatar) / Sun 15th 1pm (tier 3-7,Mekkis) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au .
00:13:28 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Sep 10 18:23:57 2013
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03:09:00 <diebot> Steven, 2d8: [2d8=1,7] 8
03:09:37 <Steven> !throw 2d8
03:09:38 <diebot> Steven, 2d8: [2d8=6,8] 14
03:28:25 <Steven> so i made some gumbo for dinner, was freakin awesome.
03:30:13 <ReaperSage> thats nice
03:31:59 <Steven> game day in 18 hours... what to do till then.
03:33:38 <Avatar> run a game
03:34:00 <Steven> what would i run?
03:34:14 <Avatar> maybe a 1-5
03:34:25 * Steven scratches his epic beard.
03:34:59 <Avatar> words of the ancients is the next 7-11 I'm trying to get down
03:35:17 <Avatar> then I'll be set to do waking rune
03:35:20 <Avatar> on easy mode :(
03:35:28 <Steven> dont puss out do it on hard mode!
03:35:38 <Steven> im joking
03:35:42 <Avatar> a couple of the guys in melb want to do it on hard mode
03:35:43 <Steven> dont do it on hard mode
03:35:47 <Avatar> they really have no idea what they're asking for
03:36:03 <Avatar> they just think yeah cool hard mode it'll be epic!
03:36:19 <Avatar> but don't know about the cries of horror of unfairness on the boards
03:36:35 <Steven> it is epic... i have yet to hear of one table actually completing it on hard mode.
03:36:46 <Avatar> I have
03:36:52 <Avatar> it's there somewhere
03:36:53 <Steven> oh do tell!
03:36:58 <CWheezy> words of the ancients?
03:36:58 <Avatar> I don't know how they did it
03:37:04 <Avatar> I am trying to aviod spoilers as it is
03:37:05 <Steven> on the forum? going to check!
03:37:08 <CWheezy> I have read people defeating hard mode krune
03:37:24 <CWheezy> but When I read the reports, the gms are going super soft or they don;t understand how high level wizards work
03:37:36 <CWheezy> which is fair, but still
03:37:41 <Steven> Thats what i heard a lot of as well wheezy.
03:38:00 <CWheezy> he has wish
03:38:08 <CWheezy> even the basic use of wish is probably game over
03:38:19 <Avatar> is there directions on how to use that
03:38:31 <Avatar> surely there must be otherwise it's I wish for these 4 to die
03:38:49 <Steven> I also heard a lot of Quickened maximized empowered <Redacted>, Then Maximized Empowered <Redacted>
03:39:13 <Avatar> yeah esay mode it is
03:39:45 <Avatar> I thought portal of the sacred rune was suitably hard and suitably epic
03:39:51 <Avatar> why didn't they keep it at that difficulty level
03:40:08 <CWheezy> avatar, you use the wish spell for only the WRITTEN powers
03:40:08 <Steven> which... thats not much fun. Oh you saved well still take 90% of the barbarians health, and oh... the rest of the party is dead... gg.
03:40:13 <Steven> bend the knee bitches!
03:40:38 <CWheezy> and one of them is aoe plane shift
03:40:53 <Avatar> jesus
03:40:58 <Steven> i saw a GM do that, and it was like okay wow... thats not much fun.
03:41:10 <CWheezy> well he is a super overpowered wizard
03:41:19 <CWheezy> wish is a really, really really dumb spell
03:41:28 <Steven> It can be yes.
03:41:31 <CWheezy> and 25k at that level is pocket change
03:42:03 <CWheezy> he could wish for a planar binding of a terrible monster as a standard
03:42:39 <CWheezy> he could wish for a simulacrum of a pit fiend or a titan to appear and start owning
03:42:51 <Steven> of course on hard mode... he can technically go over and bring his herald buddy back up.
03:42:52 <CWheezy> he could wish for a prismatic wall!
03:43:13 <CWheezy> prismatic wall is hilarious
03:43:40 <Steven> one of my characters got plane shifted by a prismatic spray once.... nat 1 on a will save.
03:43:52 <Steven> poof off to another plane.
03:44:58 <CWheezy> that is spells for you
03:45:05 <CWheezy> prismatic sphere is more funny lol
03:45:18 <CWheezy> a permanent one would be nice
03:45:30 <Steven> my party got me back to the plane, i came back with a handfull of baubles at the end of the scenario.
03:45:47 <Steven> so i could sell em on my caravan!
03:45:59 <Steven> table laughed, GM laughed. tons of fun.
03:46:43 <Steven> First time i met Kyle Baird... halarious dude btw.
03:47:42 <Avatar> I think kyle baird is a troll
03:48:14 <Avatar> very occasionally he pops up with constructive posts and I wonder if I misread thet name
03:51:03 <Steven> damn i cant find the video... its fuckin epic though.
03:51:41 <CWheezy> I asked kyle ot be a better poster and he was like "Nuh uh I post how I want neener neener neener"
03:51:53 <CWheezy> without the insults and personal attacks, etc.
03:51:54 <Steven> Kyle Baird is not sober and looks over at Mike Brock and goes "Piggy piggy piggy piggy"
03:52:32 <Steven> and then like 10 minutes later, Mike Calmly stands up moves behind Kyle and puts him through a series of police/military holds
03:53:11 <Steven> Todd morgan who is sitting to kyles right, reachs over picks up Kyle's icecream and slowly begins eating it.
03:53:49 <Steven> Finishes about half of it, and then sets it down infront of Kyle just as Mike finishes the instruction on how to incapacitate someone who calls you piggy.
03:54:47 <Steven> kyle looks down sees half his icecream gone, looks over at todd and is like WHAT THE HELL MAN! Todd reply is "I'm a fat ninja!"
03:55:12 <Steven> i couldnt breathe at all.
03:56:29 <Avatar> did they call you an ambulance
03:56:49 <Steven> no, i had an inhaler i was using like crazy.
03:57:07 <Avatar> are you asthmatic
03:57:16 <Steven> oh yeah, super bad.
03:57:23 <Avatar> cool
03:57:28 <Avatar> I am epileptic
03:58:17 <Steven> HOLY FUCKIN BALLS! i can play Rise of the goblin guild.
03:58:23 <Avatar> how
03:58:36 <Steven> i havent played it! i must have mismarked it!
03:59:26 <Avatar> cool
03:59:38 <Steven> awesome possum!
03:59:40 <Avatar> I need someone to teach me how to get roll20 working
03:59:54 <Steven> are we playing it on d20?
03:59:58 <Steven> er roll20 even?
04:00:34 <Avatar> CA is the plan, but I could run it on roll20 if I could figure it out before friday night
04:00:59 <Avatar> I keep having problems trying to get the map to align and nobody seems to be able to help me figure out why
04:01:19 <Steven> thats the same problem i have with it!
04:01:59 <Avatar> I don't understand how there are people constantly able to run it when this seems like such an obvious flaw
04:02:10 <Steven> cant wait till the gamespace is up and working how they want it to work.
04:02:30 <Mekkis> moin moin
04:02:36 <Steven> i've played around on that a bit, when it first came out so many damned bugs.
04:02:45 <Avatar> how do you get a beta invite to that
04:03:02 <Steven> i got it because i was a PaizoCon GM
04:03:33 <Steven> I dont know how else you could get in on it.
04:03:50 <Steven> I dont know who im allowed to give my beta key out to... suppose i should go look that up.
04:05:07 <CWheezy> avatar what do you need for roll20
04:05:24 <CWheezy> do you mean setting it up for gming
04:07:34 <Avatar> yeah
04:07:34 <Steven> as far as i can tell im not allowed to give you access yet avatar, but ill slip you a code as soon as im allowed.
04:08:01 <Avatar> thanks
04:08:10 <CWheezy> what do you need help with?
04:08:16 <CWheezy> register on roll20
04:08:22 <Avatar> I can't align the grid without the map snapping
04:08:24 <CWheezy> then start new campign
04:08:33 <CWheezy> even using the tool?
04:08:44 <Avatar> yeah after using the align to grid tool
04:08:46 <CWheezy> the alignment tool
04:08:55 <CWheezy> have you tried holding alt while stretching the map
04:08:56 <Avatar> it wants the image to be touching the horizontal and vertical lines
04:09:12 <CWheezy> that lets you stretch things to a custom size
04:09:24 <CWheezy> instead of snapping to a corner
04:09:40 <Steven> hmm. didnt know that. thanks wheezy
04:09:57 <CWheezy> yeah it is how you make tiny things
04:09:59 <Avatar> okay hang on that's helping
04:10:02 <CWheezy> like imp familiars
04:11:00 <Steven> thinkin of making my real housewife of taldor into a rage prophet
04:12:37 <Avatar> how do you make the viewing area bigger/smaller
04:12:43 <Avatar> where the map sits
04:12:54 <CWheezy> open the page toolbar at the top
04:13:14 <Avatar> ta
04:13:35 <CWheezy> then mouse over the page you are on, and click page settings
04:14:02 <CWheezy> it si probably obvious from there what to do
04:15:18 <Avatar> shit I think I have an aligned map
04:15:26 <CWheezy> yar
04:15:33 <Steven> holy balls of awesome!
04:16:50 <Avatar> quickly changed out of map & background mode and exhaled my relief
04:17:02 <Avatar> ONE DOWN
04:17:05 <Avatar> lol
04:17:43 <CWheezy> nice thing, it autosaves basically everything
04:19:38 <Avatar> good because that's the next thing I was looking for
04:20:58 <ReaperSage> how is everyone tonight?
04:21:18 <Avatar> loving it
04:21:36 <Steven> pretty good.
04:21:54 <Steven> i'm redoing my RHoT(real housewife of Taldor) again.
04:22:16 <Steven> looking at how it would be if i went rage prophet
04:23:14 <Steven> so i can play Rise of the Goblin Guild with it.
04:29:40 <Steven> meh.... dont particularly like the build.
04:30:21 <Steven> I mean at high level adding con to save DCs is cool, but really its just a character with 10/10/X/10/10/X where X is maxed as high as you can get.
04:41:38 <CWheezy> could be a scarred which doctor instead
04:41:43 <CWheezy> if only it wasn't banned :(
04:42:10 <Steven> glad that thing is banned personally.
04:42:28 <CWheezy> it is so far
04:42:29 <CWheezy> fair
04:43:25 <CWheezy> I don't think heavy armor turns off your hexes either
04:43:28 <CWheezy> just armor up
04:47:51 <Avatar> what do you guys think of versatile channeller
04:47:59 <Avatar> I was looking at that today for my cleric's 9th level feat
04:48:18 <Avatar> my cleric who can't hit anything with any weapon with his 10 str 10 dex
04:48:47 <CWheezy> why not a metamagic spell
04:48:49 <CWheezy> quicken?
04:49:04 <Steven> whats the dc of your channel?
04:49:12 <Brunius> !feat Versatile Channeller
04:49:13 <diebot> Brunius, VERSATILE CHANNELER []Prereq: Channel energy class feature, necromancer or neutrally aligned cleric (see below). You can choose to channel positive and negative energy.
04:49:13 <diebot> Benefit: You may make a choice whenever you use your channel energy class feature. If you normally channel positive energy, you may choose to channel negative energy as if your effective cleric level were 2 levels lower than normal. If you normally channel negative energy, you may choose to channel positive energy as if your effective cleric
04:49:13 <diebot> level were 2 levels lower than normal. Having this feat means you qualify for feats and abilities that have “channel positive energy” or “channel negative energy” as a prerequisite (for example, you qualify for the Command Undead feat and the Turn Undead feat). Source: UM
04:55:01 <Avatar> er
04:55:40 <Avatar> I have to check that because I haven't played this character in a while
04:55:47 <Avatar> he's level 9
04:55:53 <Avatar> with a 20 wis
04:56:07 <Steven> k
04:56:41 <Avatar> DC 17 I believe
04:56:53 <Avatar> 10 + half cleric level (4) + cha 16 (3)
04:57:36 <Steven> hmmmm... so it would be dc 16 for your opposed channeling... I wouldn't take it.
04:57:52 <Brunius> is this for Cairo
04:57:59 <Avatar> yeah
05:57:54 <Avatar> http://christopherkeelty.com/pop-culture/breaking-bad-outside-us/
06:00:17 <Steven> pretty much... yup
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08:03:59 <Mekkis> I'm scared about updating diebot
08:05:38 <Mekkis> !spell familiar melding
08:05:49 <diebot> Mekkis, FAMILIAR MELDING necromancy ([]) sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4 1 standard action Range: medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level) your familiar Comp: V, S Duration: 1 hour/level or until you return to your body Save: Will negates (harmless) SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
08:05:50 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/familiar_melding.html
08:08:13 <Mekkis> !spell volcanic storm
08:08:14 <diebot> Mekkis, VOLCANIC STORM evocation ([fire]) druid 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4 1 standard action Range: long (400 ft. + 40 ft./level) Comp: V, S, M/DF (obsidian and ash) Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: none SR:yesSource: Ultimate Magic
08:08:15 <diebot> Chunks of hot volcanic rock and clumps of ash pound down when this spell is cast, dealing 3d6 points of bludgeoning damage and 2d6 points of fire damage to every creature in the area. This damage only occurs once, when the spell is cast. For the remaining duration of the spell, heavy ash rains down in the area. Creatures inside this area take a -4
08:08:15 <diebot> penalty on Perception skill checks and the entire area is treated as difficult terrain. At the end of the duration, the rock and ash disappear, leaving no aftereffects (other than the damage dealt).
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08:08:59 <Mekkis> !spell detonate
08:09:00 <diebot> Mekkis, DETONATE evocation ([acid, cold, electricity, or fire]) alchemist 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, magus 4 1 standard action Range: 30 ft. Comp: V, S, M (two vials; one containing acid and one containing an alkaline solution worth a total of 50 gp) Duration: 1 round, then instantaneous Save: Reflex half SR:yesSource: APG
08:09:00 <diebot> You flood yourself with a potent surge of elemental energy. One round after completing the casting of the spell, the energy explodes from your body. When this spell creates the explosion of energy, choose one of the following four energy types: acid, cold, electricity, or fire. The explosion inflicts 1d8 points of damage of that energy type per
08:09:01 <diebot> caster level (maximum 10d8) to all creatures and unattended objects within 15 feet, and half that amount to targets past 15 feet but within 30 feet. You automatically take half damage from the explosion, without a saving throw, but any other energy resistance or energy immunity effects you may have in place can prevent or lessen this overflow
08:09:01 <diebot> damage caused by the explosion.
08:09:23 <Mekkis> !spell death knell aura
08:09:25 <diebot> Mekkis, DEATH KNELL AURA necromancy ([death, evil]) cleric 4, inquisitor 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4 1 standard action Range: 20 ft. Comp: V, S Duration: 1 round/level (D) Save: Will negates SR:yesSource: Horsemen Of The Apocalypse
08:09:25 <diebot> You gain a shimmering gray aura that feeds on the souls of creatures who die within it. The aura sheds light as a candle. If a creature at -1 or fewer hit points is within the aura at the start of its turn, it must save or die, granting you the benefits of death knell.
08:10:06 <Avatar> have you played waking rune yet mekkis
08:11:07 <Avatar> on HARD MODE
08:11:25 <Avatar> no doubt that's the plan mr I did bonekeep
08:12:27 <Mekkis> I haven't
08:12:43 <Mekkis> and I wasn't planning on playing it on hard, TBH. I was planning on playing 10-11
08:12:53 <Avatar> 10-11 HARD MODE
08:12:55 <Mekkis> where is it running?
08:13:00 <Avatar> dunno
08:13:07 <Mekkis> Avatar, sure, if you play it with me.
08:13:15 <Avatar> negative that
08:13:19 <Avatar> I'll play easy mode
08:13:22 <Avatar> 10-11
08:13:29 <Avatar> I need to play words of the ancients first
08:13:38 <Avatar> that's the last in the lissalla line I'm yet to play
08:13:45 <Mekkis> I'd rather play it with players I know, rather than with others who go out of their way for hard mode
08:13:58 <Avatar> Snickers played cultist's kiss, feast of sigils and ... one more I think
08:14:16 <Avatar> oh James played severing ties because it's a 1-5 and Snickers wasn't in tier
08:14:26 <Avatar> ok gotta run
08:14:29 <Mekkis> same
08:14:37 <Mekkis> which witch mini did oyu want
08:14:38 <Mekkis> ?
08:18:15 <Yiroep> Oh, words of the ancients. I love that one.
08:18:28 <Yiroep> Still haven't played waking rune.
08:19:01 <Yiroep> If I'm playing hard mode, I'm fo' sho' playing my thundercaller bard. He's my most broken character.
08:19:12 <Yiroep> And I didn't even intend it that way...
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08:23:20 <ReaperSage> watching dnd while talking about pathfinder
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08:44:56 <ReaperSage> hm
08:53:58 <Steven> hmmmm indeed
09:08:37 <Yiroep> *yawn*
09:09:29 <Steven> indeed.
09:11:32 <Darkkapow> ran citadel of flame tonight :D
09:11:35 <Darkkapow> no kills :(
09:11:40 <Darkkapow> almost though
09:11:45 <Darkkapow> someone fell in the lava at level 1
09:11:46 <Yiroep> 1-2 or 4-5?
09:11:51 <Darkkapow> 1-2
09:11:54 <Yiroep> K.
09:12:02 <Yiroep> I hear 1-2 is much harder.
09:12:08 <Darkkapow> 1-2 is stupid
09:12:11 <Yiroep> I played it at 4-5 and it was a cakewalk.
09:12:12 <Darkkapow> and so much fun for the dm
09:12:55 <Darkkapow> certain things in that scenario with certain at will abilities is just too much fun
09:15:39 <ReaperSage> yup
09:17:09 <Yiroep> I played it with a level 5 wizard. Having level 3 spells in a 1-5 seemed a little...much, even at 4-5. Casting haste in a 1-5 feels weird. :p
09:17:22 <Yiroep> But I guess summoners do it all the time.
09:18:23 <Steven> yeah the low tier of that is annoying as shit with the color spraying.
09:18:45 <ripley> becareful the levels are looped if you make the wrong decision
09:21:03 <Darkkapow> hehe :P one of my pc's had a stupid perception and realised
09:21:09 <Darkkapow> and tried to stab stuff through things
09:21:16 <Darkkapow> and then looked through when he hit nothing
09:21:19 <Darkkapow> and got colour sprayed
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09:27:59 <Darkkapow> Waiting for a reply sucks Steven :/
09:28:16 <Steven> yup.
09:28:29 <Darkkapow> all this pent up excitement
09:28:51 <Steven> my buddy preston was waiting for about a week.
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09:57:34 <Darkkapow> yeah am kind of nervous but stupidly excited as well :P
10:01:42 <ReaperSage> hm
10:02:02 <Darkkapow> And I am like 95% sure I will get to go to unicon beginning of next month too :D
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10:41:02 <ReaperSage> bbl
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11:58:16 <Yuugi> Hi.
12:13:20 <Ultio> Sup Yuugi
12:14:06 <Yuugi> Not much
12:14:18 <Yuugi> I'm scrapping my D&D B/X game and going with a 3.5e game
12:16:33 <CWheezy> can I make pun pun
12:16:42 <Yuugi> No.
12:16:58 <Yuugi> I mean, sure, it's probably possible for you as a player to make pun pun :P
12:17:12 <CWheezy> lol
12:17:21 <Yuugi> But, for my game I think I'll keep it to the Core only. Since the only 3.5e books I have are the PHB, DMG, and MM
12:17:32 <Yuugi> Plus the Book of Vile Darkness, but it's not an evil campaign >_>
12:18:20 <CWheezy> the book of vile darkness specifically says do not let your players use it
12:18:24 <CWheezy> or else they will make
12:18:27 <CWheezy> STRENGTH WIZARD
12:18:53 <Yuugi> haha, fair enough
12:19:07 <CWheezy> http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1365/80/1365808964645.jpg
12:19:14 <Yuugi> So, I'm hoping that by changing to 3.5e I might get more interested people.
12:27:27 <Yuugi> Anyone want to go for a romp through an adventure module?
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12:37:18 <Ultio> cant
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13:24:02 <Yuugi> So, I'm thinking of running a Dungeon Crawl Classics 3e module.
13:26:57 <CWheezy> I woudl play in that
13:27:24 <Yuugi> cool.
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14:57:00 <Yuugi> Hi.
15:01:51 <Yuugi> Tenra Bansho Zero is so purdy~
15:22:22 <Yuugi> Hm.
15:22:54 <Yuugi> If I want to join the Rise of the Goblin Guild with a pregen how would I do it?
15:24:10 <Yiroep> Woohoo! I'm moving this weekend. Maybe I can online game more once I'm all settled.
15:25:44 <Yuugi> Yay
15:39:12 <Yuugi> Hi
15:41:12 <ReaperSage> hey
15:46:40 <Yuugi> I'm considering joning the PFS as the pregen gunslinger gal
15:46:58 <Yuugi> To play in a scenario on here.
15:50:34 <Yuugi> Got any tips or help for me?
16:10:20 <ReaperSage> im planning on joining too
16:10:42 <ReaperSage> no tips since all I have is what I know about 1 campaign i tried
16:12:53 <Yuugi> ah
16:13:23 <Yuugi> We can learn together then. It's not really my first time doing PFS, but it's been awhile and I've also never played a gunslinger before.
16:15:33 <ReaperSage> joining the one on friday?
16:15:51 <Yuugi> Going to try, yeah.
16:17:44 <Yuugi> tohk
16:19:01 <ReaperSage> im having trouble filling out this sheet
16:19:50 <ReaperSage> the ranks arent adding up right
16:20:29 <Yuugi> ?
16:20:50 <Yuugi> oh right I'd have to submit a sheet and all
16:21:16 <ReaperSage> so far so good otherwise
16:21:38 <ReaperSage> for the campaign i was learning the ropes in we used rpg crossing for the sheets
16:23:01 <Yuugi> heh
16:24:08 <ReaperSage> so how are you today?
16:26:22 <Yuugi> ok
16:26:30 <Yuugi> heading out for dinner in a couple hours
16:32:18 <Yuugi> Also
16:32:20 <Yuugi> Wow
16:32:22 <Yuugi> I have a lot of RPG books
16:32:30 <Yuugi> lik 5 GB
16:32:44 <ReaperSage> fun
16:38:45 <Yiroep> Shouldn't be a big deal. You just have the pregen and sign up, and show up?
16:38:52 <Yiroep> That's how it works at local gamedays, anyway.
16:39:30 <Yiroep> You'll want to play either the 1st level or 4th level one, depending on the levels of the rest of the party. You want to match them.
16:40:25 <Yiroep> I don't know the specifics of playing here, though. I just have a ton of PFS experience.
16:41:10 <Yuugi> lol yeah
16:41:16 <Yuugi> I know how to setup for regular PFS
16:41:22 <Yuugi> I meant how to use the system here for a pregen
16:44:01 <ReaperSage> ah
16:44:04 <ReaperSage> gotcha
16:44:16 <Yuugi> Normally you'd just print out the pregen and take it to gameday.
16:44:18 <ReaperSage> sorry for the late replies been reding
16:44:26 <ReaperSage> really?
16:44:32 <Yiroep> I mean, there's no auditing required for pregens or anything.
16:44:37 <Yuugi> Yeah, pregen means pregenerated.
16:44:43 <Yiroep> Anybody can look them up, so there's really a lot less paperwork.
16:44:45 <Yuugi> It's already been made to PFS specifics
16:44:47 <Yuugi> Yeah.
16:44:54 <Yiroep> It really should be even easier than a normal character.
16:45:40 <Yiroep> Essentially, you do the same things as any other gameday for here, except you just don't bother with any of the character stuff. That would be my guess.
16:45:54 <Yiroep> And just have your pregen on hand when you're playing.
16:47:51 <Yuugi> ya
16:49:10 <ReaperSage> fun stuff
16:51:49 <Yuugi> Lirianne looks cool.
16:53:01 <Yuugi> And her motivation is simple: she likes adventure.
16:54:59 <Yiroep> I've been meaning to make a gunslinger.
16:55:00 <ReaperSage> bb ina bit
16:55:24 <Yiroep> But I just enjoy divine and arcane casters so much.
16:56:03 <Yiroep> Damage isn't really my style at all. My only real damage character is my magus, which I do enjoy quite a bit.
16:56:08 <Yuugi> Isn't there an archetype of gunslinger that uses magic?
16:56:27 <Yiroep> There are archetypes for other classes that use guns...but they aren't allowed.
16:56:33 <Yiroep> I'm not aware of a magic-using gunslinger archetype.
16:57:37 <Yuugi> Hm, maybe not.
16:57:54 <Yuugi> I was thinking of the spellslinger
16:58:00 <Yiroep> Yeah, the wizard archetype.
16:58:22 <Yiroep> I have a friend who is trying for a magical gun user. He's 1 gunslinger/X myrmidarch magus.
16:59:00 <Yiroep> Although it's rather disappointing until level 5...when he gets ranged spellstrike.
17:01:23 <Yuugi> meh
17:02:18 <Avatar> I ran one of those
17:03:10 <Avatar> do yourself a favour and convert it to pathfinder, though
17:05:01 <Yuugi> The only system missing from my PDF collection is Saga Edition
17:09:33 <Avatar> which saga
17:10:02 <Yuugi> Star Wars Saga
17:11:03 <Avatar> I've got it if you want it
17:11:34 <Avatar> we used to play it here
17:12:28 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXaPnXxhMnU
17:12:32 <Yuugi> Eh, I'd rather find them legally. Which I guess is impossible.
17:12:35 <diebot> Avatar, Rolling High: Attacks of Opportunity
17:12:39 <Yuugi> I do still have the hard copy core book though
17:13:05 <Avatar> up to you
17:13:24 <Avatar> I miss playing it, it was fun
17:13:36 <Yuugi> heh
17:13:54 <Yuugi> I've got so many books and not enough time or people to play them. :(
17:14:20 <Avatar> get some PFS into you
17:15:00 <Yuugi> I do have Pathfinder, but I meant other systems too
17:15:15 <Yuugi> I own the entire line of In Nomine because it's awesome, but never found people to play with.
17:15:26 <Yuugi> Though I do plan on getting into your game, Avatar
17:15:28 <Yuugi> On Friday.
17:15:35 <Avatar> did you sign up
17:15:36 <Yuugi> With the pregen gunslinger.
17:15:40 <Yuugi> I'm not sure how.
17:15:46 <Avatar> click on the game, click accept
17:15:54 <Avatar> you should've gotten an email invite with a link in it too
17:16:01 <Yuugi> hm
17:16:55 <Yuugi> ok
17:16:59 <Avatar> let me know if there's ever a game scheduled that you think you should've gotten an invite for but didn't
17:17:19 <Avatar> the only exception should be if you've already played that scenario and marked it off
17:17:37 <Yuugi> Haven't played any Season 4 or 5 yet
17:18:01 <Avatar> have you marked off what you've played
17:18:11 <Yuugi> There
17:18:13 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/pfs.php5
17:18:37 <Yuugi> hm
17:19:16 <Yuugi> I haven't really played many scenarios now that I think about it. But I do own all of Season 0
17:19:19 <Yuugi> Does that count?
17:19:37 <Avatar> er
17:19:42 <Avatar> no
17:19:49 <Avatar> if you've GM'd scenarios, scroll further down and mark them off there
17:19:55 <Avatar> but owning scenarios doesn't really count for anything
17:20:17 <Yuugi> Yeah, most of my RPG experience is reading the books. Like I said, haven't really found lots of time or people to play with. :(
17:20:27 <Avatar> the whole point is to use that page to work out what are the best scenarios to run and for whom
17:20:28 <Yuugi> But I did officially play the Season 3 Intros
17:20:37 <Yuugi> Which are now retired anyway
17:20:49 <Avatar> first steps 1 isn't retired
17:21:06 <Yuugi> oh?
17:21:08 <Yuugi> ok
17:21:10 <Avatar> if you want to run a game, let me know the details and I'll set you up
17:21:27 <Yuugi> Eh, I'd kind of want to run my Season 0 stuff but it'd seem so out of date...
17:21:33 <Avatar> it's not
17:21:40 <Avatar> there's always people who haven't played old scenarios
17:21:56 <ReaperSage> hey back
17:22:04 <Avatar> you can use that page to see who can play those scenarios
17:22:39 <Yuugi> Ah
17:28:47 <Yuugi> Anyway, time to go for dinner, see you guys later.
17:30:13 <Yiroep> You can replay first steps anyway as much as you want.
17:30:49 <Yiroep> Although after time #7 I was sick of it.
17:31:11 <Yiroep> Time #1 was a TPK because GM ignored tactics.
17:31:33 <Avatar> yeah you really get over it after a while
17:31:51 <Avatar> it would be less of an issue if you could replay more than 3 scenarios I think
17:32:05 <Yiroep> My 2nd game of PFS ever, my 2 friends first game ever...TPK, because GM felt like it.
17:33:16 <Avatar> who was the GM
17:33:26 <Yiroep> Should I say? The online VC. :p
17:33:33 <Avatar> seriously?
17:33:49 <Yiroep> He was a local GM for us before he moved.
17:34:14 <Avatar> what tactics did he use
17:34:32 <Yiroep> He also killed my character twice in the same scenario in Race for the Runecarved Key using questionable rulings.
17:34:49 <Yiroep> For first steps? Color spray spam, just color spraying through the barbarian.
17:35:01 <Yiroep> Ignoring all teammates to just go up and color spray spam.
17:36:34 <Yiroep> I'm not even close to a fan of his as a GM, even if he is a nice guy.
17:36:45 <Yiroep> Like, outside of PFS, he's pretty cool.
17:36:53 <Avatar> yeah he's not meant to walk up and colour spray the meleers
17:37:26 <Yiroep> He was strategically placing the other enemies so he could maximize the color spray spam, too.
17:38:17 <Yiroep> Meh, it's in the past. I won't sit at his tables again, so it's all good.
17:39:10 <ReaperSage> i think i finally have an interesting question
17:39:22 <Yiroep> O_o
17:39:56 <ReaperSage> for sorcerers can you have a crossblooded archtype using another archtype and a certain bloodline?
17:40:18 <Yiroep> Are you talking about wildblooded?
17:40:41 <Yiroep> Because Mike Brock has stated you can't have crossblooded and wildblooded.
17:40:50 <Yiroep> Not together at least.
17:43:04 <Yiroep> Crossblooded also should be considered carefully. It lowers your "spells known" by 1, and at some levels a sorcerer only has one spell known. So, for example, at level 6, you can cast 3 level 3 spells, but if you're crossblooded you have 0 spells known. So you have the spell slots to cast level 3 spells, but no level 3 spells to actually cast.
17:43:48 <ReaperSage> wasnt thinking wildblooded
17:44:02 <Yiroep> Give me an example of what you mean.
17:44:05 <ReaperSage> Efreeti mixed with draconic
17:44:35 <ReaperSage> im just asking if it must be seperate
17:46:37 <Yiroep> If you're crossblooded, you can have both bloodlines, choosing which "side" for abilities you want each time you would get a new power...if that answers your question. You can only have one bloodline unless you're crossblooded.
17:46:59 <Yiroep> So if you're crossblooded, you can have both bloodlines, yes.
17:47:17 <ReaperSage> semi does
17:47:25 <ReaperSage> looking at the archtype page '
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18:23:50 <ReaperSage> hey everyone
18:24:19 <Brunius_> hey
18:24:36 <ReaperSage> anyting going on?
18:24:41 <Brunius_> not really
18:24:41 <ReaperSage> anything bleh
18:24:43 <Brunius_> just chillin
18:24:45 Brunius_ is now known as Brunius
18:25:05 <ReaperSage> i see the day changed for the session
18:25:14 <Brunius> did it?
18:26:26 <ReaperSage> from friday to saturday
18:26:45 <Brunius> I must confess I don't pay much attention to PFS anymore
18:26:57 <ReaperSage> dont play?
18:27:07 <Brunius> I've got a character at...level 10?
18:27:18 <ReaperSage> i dont know :/
18:27:21 <Brunius> But I've had other things distract me
18:27:26 <Brunius> 9 or 10, I think
18:27:29 <Brunius> !findchar Bairaq
18:27:36 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Bairaq, number: 333( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=333 )
18:28:23 <ReaperSage> ah
18:29:51 <ReaperSage> im still trying to finish my sheet
18:31:50 <Avatar> any dramas?
18:32:05 <Avatar> the day didn't change for the session
18:32:12 <Avatar> it's set to UTC+10 if you're not signed in
18:32:17 <Avatar> if you're signed in, it shows your timezone
18:32:34 <ReaperSage> doh >.< that makes sense
18:34:53 <ReaperSage> i might have to wait for the next one then
18:37:36 <Avatar> you can't make your friday?
18:38:58 <ReaperSage> I work that night. Just the start and at the halfway mark would be a small issue
18:39:22 <ReaperSage> just to move and do rounds. otherwise I can make it
18:40:16 <ReaperSage> 8pm my time is when it starts apparently.
18:40:20 <ReaperSage> no issues there
18:40:37 <ReaperSage> 3 hours in i need to clean up and move to another building
18:40:53 <ReaperSage> after that im free to finish when it ends at 2am
18:41:59 <ReaperSage> think that would be an issue?
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18:42:17 <ReaperSage> hello
18:42:32 <Ultio> Hi
18:42:49 <Steven> yo
18:44:14 <Steven> wizard level 9 now.
18:44:43 <Avatar> now you can just cast time stop normally
18:44:46 <ReaperSage> Avatar. is there an article for the society on new characters as in what the starting gold is and whats allowed? or is that done at the start of the campaign?
18:45:03 <Avatar> there's a book for it
18:45:11 <Avatar> I forget what mekkis' shortcut is
18:45:25 <Steven> ?guide
18:45:25 <diebot> Steven, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
18:45:30 <Steven> BOOSH!
18:45:43 <ReaperSage> thank you, ill go read before asking
18:45:50 <Avatar> you should have that before you think about creating a character
18:45:54 <Steven> we dont mind questions once in a while.
18:45:55 <Avatar> it's got a step by step
18:46:19 <Steven> 133 skill points at level 9 avatar.
18:48:54 <Steven> lowest kn roll is nobility at +17
18:49:23 <ReaperSage> oops >.<
18:49:33 <ReaperSage> downloaded already but didnt read
18:50:00 <Steven> reading is fundamental!
18:51:03 <Steven> think im going to pick up my first metamagic.
18:54:34 <Steven> thinking either bouncing or persistant
18:55:43 <Avatar> I am probably going to pick up heighten spell and preferred spell on my cleric
18:56:54 <Steven> im thinkin of buying a staff of the master(necromancy)
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18:57:13 <Steven> so i can apply metamagic i know to spells by expending a charge off the staff.
18:57:35 <Steven> !item staff of the master
18:57:38 <diebot> Steven, STAFF OF THE MASTER [moderate necromancy] CL:8 none 30000gp, 5lb
18:57:38 <diebot> Often given as gifts to apprentices upon reaching the rank of master, these staves come in eight different varieties, one for each school of magic. This particular staff is for the school of necromancy. Aside from acting as a +1/+1 quarterstaff, this staff allows use of the following spells: • Ray of enfeeblement (1 charge) • Spectral hand (1
18:57:39 <diebot> charge) • Vampiric touch (2 charges) In addition, this staff can be used to cast spells using any metamagic feats known by the wielder without increasing the spell's level. This consumes a number of charges equal to the number of spell levels increased by the feat. No more than one feat can be applied to a spell cast by the wielder in this way.
18:57:39 <diebot> Using the staff for this purpose does not increase the casting time of the spell. Source: Ultimate Equipment
18:58:22 <ripley> necrohexacon
18:58:34 <ReaperSage> thanks again for the link
18:58:47 <Yuugi> Hi
18:58:54 <Steven> thank mekkis he programmed the bot.
18:59:26 <Yuugi> Avatar: I signed up for your game.
18:59:54 <Avatar> love your work
19:00:11 <Steven> im bringing my real housewife of taldor.
19:00:38 <Steven> game is going to be Fabulous!
19:00:38 <Yuugi> wait what
19:01:22 <Steven> Theres a group of us at the local game store that have characters that are the "Real Housewives of Taldor"
19:02:17 <Steven> and its all based off of some characters another group of VOs that have a group of Andorans that always adventure together.
19:03:01 <Yuugi> haha
19:03:05 <Yuugi> That's hilarious.
19:03:21 <Yuugi> I'm just gonna play a level 1 pregen gunslinger for now.
19:03:27 <Steven> and mid adventure one of them was like, "You know what show i really like on that scryin pool thing my wife made me get... Real Housewives of Taldor... First i thought they was some uppidy bitches... but that blonde girl whats her name... shes just a nice girl thats misunderstood."
19:03:28 <Yuugi> No fuss or muss about chargen
19:03:40 <Yuugi> XD
19:03:49 <Steven> walter, cameron and myself decided that minute... we were making the real housewives of taldor.
19:04:07 <Steven> i'm two games behind because i had to GM some games down at the shop.
19:04:21 <Yuugi> ah
19:04:29 <Steven> so, thats why im bringing it tomorrow.
19:05:54 <Yuugi> What level is she?
19:06:14 <Steven> yeah, so during gen con, the group of VOs, if you shouted Major Colson Maldris... they would all stand up and salute.
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19:06:31 <Steven> shes level 2
19:06:48 <Avatar> hey won't everyone love me if I choose heighten spell
19:06:55 <Avatar> I can give them continual flamed stuff
19:07:00 <Yuugi> oh goodie
19:07:10 <Steven> yay... heighten continual flame!
19:07:21 <Avatar> how does that work
19:07:23 <Avatar> it's free isn't it
19:07:36 <Yuugi> oh yeah how does gaming work here?
19:07:39 <Avatar> basically everyone you play with you just say here's a stone that's permanently lit forever
19:07:55 <Avatar> what do you mean how does it work
19:08:34 <Steven> and no avatar, continual flame has a material component of 50g
19:08:48 <Yuugi> Like, is it on skype? irc? or some VTT tool?
19:08:51 <Avatar> they can pay that
19:08:57 <Steven> which you just ask people if they want it they gotta pay it
19:09:07 <Avatar> depends on the GM, we usually do skype / IRC / CA
19:09:31 <Steven> been in a few games that the person used roll20 and googlehangout
19:09:55 <Yuugi> Well, I mean specifically the game on Friday.
19:10:05 <Yuugi> Since that's the one I need to prepare for.
19:10:09 <Avatar> yeah it'll be skype / IRC / CA
19:10:15 <Brunius> In this channel, it's exceedingly rare to see anything other than Skype/IRC/CA
19:10:17 <Avatar> do you have a skype account
19:10:22 <Yuugi> Yes.
19:10:25 <Avatar> then you're ready
19:10:27 <Steven> i say why wait, lets run it right now!
19:10:29 <Yuugi> I haven't bothered with CA though
19:10:37 <Steven> im just joking.
19:10:38 <Avatar> have you downloaded CA
19:10:41 <Yuugi> Nope.
19:10:44 <Avatar> ?ca
19:10:44 <diebot> Avatar, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
19:10:50 <Avatar> that's the one you need, not the one on the site
19:10:55 <Yuugi> oh?
19:11:03 <Avatar> it's a later version
19:11:05 <Yuugi> Alright.
19:11:10 <Avatar> the one on the site is a bit more prone to crashing
19:11:18 <Avatar> er, unless you're on a mac
19:11:27 <Yuugi> Though, I'd just like to ask why you don't use something like roll20. It's got the whiteboard, dice, and voice chat.
19:11:35 <Yuugi> Naw, it's a PC for me.
19:11:37 <Avatar> I can't figure roll20 out
19:11:44 <Yuugi> oh fair enough
19:11:52 <Yuugi> It's not as bad as MapTools or OpenRPG though
19:11:53 <Avatar> after last night I got past a rather large hurdle though
19:11:59 <Avatar> just need to take some more time with it now
19:12:20 <Yuugi> ok
19:12:37 <Avatar> CA's intuitive
19:12:40 <Steven> map tools just sucks balls.
19:12:44 <Steven> large ones.
19:12:46 <Avatar> yeah maptool is garbage
19:12:50 <Steven> directly after a 7 mile run.
19:12:50 <Avatar> and roll20 makes it redundant
19:12:57 <ReaperSage> that hurts man
19:13:06 <ReaperSage> i learned on that thing
19:13:17 <Steven> did you create it?
19:13:21 <Avatar> you've graduated reaper
19:13:22 <Brunius>
19:13:25 <Avatar> times change
19:13:27 <Steven> then dont feel bad. you just learned on a bad system is all.
19:13:27 <Brunius>
19:13:29 <ReaperSage> lol
19:13:40 <ReaperSage> guess ill see soon enough
19:13:44 <Brunius>
19:13:46 <Avatar> some people play on fantasy grounds too, which I'd like to check out
19:13:57 <Avatar> but it seems incredibly annoying just to set up
19:14:00 <Yuugi> Oh, well, I like roll20 purely for the use of the whiteboard, really.
19:14:05 <Steven> its like loosing your virginity... sure maybe you lost it to a fat chick... but you lost it and thats what is important.
19:14:15 <Avatar> I had a look at a game schedule for it and it was like, upload your character sheet XML into it
19:14:17 <Yuugi> It's easy to draw maps on.
19:14:20 <Avatar> wtfffff?
19:14:33 <Avatar> CA is easier
19:14:37 <Yuugi> Yeah
19:14:43 <Yuugi> I'll try it out
19:14:58 <Avatar> it was designed to draw maps on before it was designed for having JPGs as maps
19:15:26 <Steven> 9th level feat...
19:15:32 <Steven> for a wizard.
19:15:33 <Avatar> dodge
19:15:58 <Yuugi> I never really liked using the PDF images for maps anyway.
19:16:13 * Yuugi likes drawing stuff, and likes it even better when the players have to map out stuff.
19:16:32 <Steven> i cant up my ac avatar... thats against the principle of the character. he's a fat guy that floats around in a chair.
19:16:55 <Brunius> I really want to run a game where I go "Cool, you'be beaten the boss...now how do you get back?"
19:16:56 <Avatar> does the chair float
19:17:19 <Steven> yes, the chair floats.
19:17:51 <Steven> its a Soaring Cathedra from the Taldor book.
19:18:19 <Yuugi> . . .
19:18:56 <Yuugi> Your character is Baron Vladimir Harkonnen?
19:19:36 <Steven> pretty much.... yes.
19:19:54 <Steven> Last game i played... i was forced to walk... there were stairs.
19:20:11 <Yuugi> Ah
19:21:14 <ReaperSage> hm
19:22:32 <Yuugi> ReaperSage: If you're having trouble it's probably easier to pick a pregen.
19:23:50 <Steven> only like another 30k and i can afford to get the sofa that can fly
19:24:31 <Steven> the sofa can fly, create water, walk at 30ft, and teleport i think
19:24:34 <Steven> costs like 66k
19:25:34 <Yuugi> weird sofa
19:26:56 <Steven> mechanically its horrible... i could just buy scrolls and would never use up enough to equal the cost of the sofa.
19:27:15 <Steven> but Flavor... its fuckin priceless.
19:28:55 <Steven> lets see if there are any racial feats i want
19:29:24 <ReaperSage> haramaki vs silken ceremonial robes
19:29:55 <ReaperSage> aside from appearance is there much of a difference?
19:32:18 <Steven> um.... one could probably be argued to provide you with a way to wear other armor during a fancy dinner party.
19:33:02 <Steven> like your Full Plate... with the silken ceremonial... might not hit you with a penalty for wearing armor to a dinner party.
19:34:00 <ReaperSage> could both a haramaki and robes be worn at the same time then?
19:34:24 <Steven> yes, but the silken ceremonial armor provides no additional benefit
19:34:42 <ReaperSage> 1ac apparently
19:35:09 <ReaperSage> going for a sorcerer so I dont want the spell failure chance
19:35:27 <Steven> mage armor.
19:36:08 <Yuugi> Yeah.
19:36:11 <Yuugi> Seriously.
19:36:37 <Yuugi> Mage Armor + Shield, even, for extra AC
19:37:10 <Steven> 4 AC + 4 Shield is pretty much the bread and butter for mages for levels 1-20
19:37:18 <Steven> when it comes to buffing AC
19:37:33 <ReaperSage> shouldnt I wear armor though?
19:37:41 <Yuugi> Not really...
19:37:49 <Steven> dont need to.
19:37:49 <Yuugi> I mean, you can if you want to!
19:38:08 <Steven> but you can get the robes if you want.
19:38:17 <Yuugi> The rules for spell failure are in place for people who want to wear armor, after all... it's not like the rules say you can't
19:38:36 <Yuugi> But, really, you should save your monies and stuff.
19:38:36 <Steven> there are some feats that will reduce the penalty
19:38:39 <Yuugi> Yeah
19:38:59 <Steven> Arcane Armor training i think they are called
19:39:00 <ReaperSage> im just making sure
19:39:08 <Yuugi> yeah
19:39:11 <ReaperSage> thank you both
19:39:15 <Yuugi> np
19:39:36 <Steven> sadly you will have to dump quite a few feats into it if you want them.
19:40:17 <Yuugi> btw is it awkward to have a crush on rpg art?
19:40:26 <Steven> because you will need light armor prof and then Arcane Armor training. for 10% reduction
19:40:30 <Brunius> uh
19:40:31 <Brunius> yes
19:40:56 <Steven> and then medium armor prof and arcane armor mastery for 20% reduction.
19:40:57 <Yuugi> <_<
19:40:58 <Yuugi> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Beliah-216309249
19:41:04 <Yuugi> 'cuz I think she's pretty.
19:41:37 <Steven> and they both eat a swift action to use.
19:42:06 <CWheezy> that is really important
19:42:13 <CWheezy> since quicken spells and swift action spells are pretty goo
19:42:28 <Steven> depends on what you doin man...
19:45:19 <Steven> but you could get to 6 Sorc level dip into fighter, pick up the armor proficiencies, and then get both arcane armor training and mastery at level 7, buy Elven Chain shirt and get a 6AC that you can then improve without incurring the spell failure for the cost of a swift action whenever you want to cast a spell.
19:45:31 <Steven> so yes you can wear armor... its just costly.
19:45:54 <Steven> or does it require level 7 caster level... i cant never remember these things, let me go check.
19:46:15 <Brunius> Yuugi.
19:46:18 <Brunius> Remember that picture.
19:46:27 <Brunius> It may become relevant.
19:46:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, you around?
19:46:55 <Steven> yup gotta have caster level 7th
19:47:21 <Yuugi> Why would it become relevant?
19:48:08 <Steven> avatar went silent about 20-30 minutes ago.
19:49:22 <Mekkis> Steven, if I showed up at your game with some colour photocopies of pages of books that I owned, along with a printout of Additional Resources, and a printout of the Australian Copyright Law that states that what I've done is not an infringement, would you bar my character from playing?
19:49:37 <Brunius> ...
19:52:29 <Steven> As per the ruling mike brock has given, photocopies of a book does not prove you own the book, and so does not make you eligible to use any of the source material. You must bring the book for any source material you want to use to the table.
19:52:46 <Yuugi> What if it's print-outs of a pdf you own?
19:52:53 <Brunius> then it's watermarked
19:52:59 <Brunius> and they can tell you own it (in theory)
19:53:05 <Yuugi> I guess so
19:53:10 <Steven> so long as it has the watermark for you, its totally legit.
19:53:18 <Yuugi> kk
19:53:30 <Mekkis> what if you think this is bullshit, and therefore make your own watermarks?
19:54:08 <Brunius> I do think there should be some provision for players that love dead tree format but don't love the associated back pain
19:54:30 <Steven> then you are breaking the rules of Pathfinder Society.
19:54:35 <Yuugi> lol
19:54:52 <Yuugi> I think, at least, the stuff on the PRD should be available.
19:54:52 <Mekkis> there are no rules saying you need to have a PDF that PAIZO watermarked
19:55:01 <Steven> yes, there are actually.
19:55:04 <Mekkis> and no rules saying you shouldn't watermark your own book
19:55:05 <Yuugi> Since it's like the SRD of all the hardcover books
19:55:23 <Steven> the stuff on the PRD is available to GMs.
19:55:43 <Yuugi> mm
19:56:14 <Mekkis> I agree that if you want to use the material you should buy it
19:56:49 <Steven> In order to utilize content from an Additional Resource, a player must have a physical copy of the Additional Resource in question, a name-watermarked Paizo PDF of it, or a printout of the relevant pages from it, as well as a copy of the current version of the Additional Resources list.
19:57:34 <ReaperSage> its only fair
19:57:43 <ReaperSage> support what you wanna use
19:58:28 <Brunius> He's already bought the dead tree book
19:58:33 <Mekkis> w00t. Got a second Leväslaiho's Medal for my M2 Medium!
19:58:38 <Steven> I would like it very much if they were to allow a VO, preferably a VC as to not give me more work, a sheet that could be filled in with source books a person owns and then signed off by a VC.
19:59:05 <Steven> then people wouldnt have to carry around a bunch of physical source books if they have already bought them.
19:59:49 <Steven> and instead just have a photocopy of the relevant page and a sheet that states what books the person has purchased.
20:00:01 <ReaperSage> would it be alright to use Apsu as a deity?
20:00:14 <Mekkis> ReaperSage, if you own the source, yes
20:00:16 <Yuugi> Who?
20:00:16 <Steven> Apsu is a legal deity i choice i believe.
20:00:29 <Steven> dragon god of creation or something.
20:00:48 <ReaperSage> Apsu is the patron deity of all good and metallic dragons, and one of the oldest gods of the Great Beyond. Along with Tiamat, he is (at least according to draconic lore) believed to be one of the two original creator beings of the multiverse.[1]
20:00:59 <Steven> BOOSH!
20:01:37 <Yuugi> eh
20:01:54 <Mekkis> ReaperSage, do you own the source (Gods and Magic, or Inner Sea World Guide)
20:03:38 <ReaperSage> that i do not, and noted
20:04:10 <ReaperSage> doing what I can to get my sheet ready for friday with what I have
20:05:30 <ReaperSage> must it be the hardbound copy or the pdf with my name attached?
20:05:55 <Steven> it can be either
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20:06:10 <Yuugi> Hey Jaggedsoul
20:06:16 <Jaggedsoul> sup
20:06:19 <Steven> yo
20:06:29 <Jaggedsoul> hey
20:06:43 <ReaperSage> hello
20:07:08 <Jaggedsoul> is Avatar around?
20:07:22 <Yuugi> I don't think so.
20:07:37 <Steven> avatar is afk for a bit methinks.
20:07:38 <Jaggedsoul> what happened to your game Yuugi?
20:08:21 <Yuugi> Players didn't show up at the same time. IE, you're here now but Bird isn't.
20:08:27 <Yuugi> And I haven't seen spider since that day.
20:08:52 <Yuugi> I've decided to scrap the old D&D project and join a PFS game and I'm also considering doing 3.5e since I might get more players.
20:09:51 <Steven> if you're gonna do 3.5 might as well do PFS and draw a lot of players in lol
20:10:03 <Steven> sorry pathfinder not pathfinder society
20:10:05 <Mekkis> There's more to Pathfinder than PFS
20:10:10 <Yuugi> lol
20:10:14 <Yuugi> Maybe, but
20:10:16 <Mekkis> but seriously, I am interested in some 3.5
20:10:20 <Yuugi> I want to keep the game simple
20:10:29 <Yuugi> I don't want to use many supplements.
20:10:41 <Yuugi> And it's easier to say "Just use the SRD" in 3.5
20:10:57 <Yuugi> Because the d20pfsrd is everything >_<
20:11:13 <Yuugi> plus the adventures I'm using were written for 3.5
20:11:18 <Yuugi> So it's easier.
20:11:22 <Mekkis> what setting?
20:12:05 <Yuugi> I try to keep setting info away from players until the game starts.
20:12:21 <Mekkis> makes it a bit hard to have a background
20:13:03 <Yuugi> If you can describe the character in a sentence or two it's probably okay.
20:14:05 <Jaggedsoul> When do you plan to start?
20:15:19 <Yuugi> Hm, I don't really like picking dates until I get the players but I guess next week?
20:15:20 <ReaperSage> seems you have alot of people interested :P
20:15:25 <Yuugi> Yeah
20:15:37 <Yuugi> You should have seen the response to my 0e game though :P
20:16:10 <ReaperSage> If the day is good i wouldnt mind joining but Im new to 3.5 about as much as Im still new to pathfinder
20:16:31 <Yuugi> That's okay.
20:16:36 <Steven> ahhhhh Magic Jar... how i love you.
20:16:50 <ReaperSage> same for my brother but hes more wanting a weekday campaign
20:17:11 <Mekkis> I am looking for a player or two to join for WotW...
20:17:52 <ReaperSage> whats that stand for?
20:18:00 <Mekkis> Way of the Wicked
20:18:06 <Yuugi> Oh.
20:19:09 <Steven> you get to be Evil and wreck havoc upon a country... its fun. I just didnt have time to do it for like 2 months so i dropped.
20:20:17 <Jaggedsoul> If it fits my sched, I can join
20:20:39 <Jaggedsoul> Yuugi's and Mekkis'
20:21:12 <Mekkis> the schedule is approximately every second Saturday, 1:30pm AEST
20:23:00 <Steven> Magic Jar DC 27 feels good.
20:24:41 <Yuugi> So, those who are interested in my game I set up a channel called #DCC-1
20:28:08 <Steven> wish dragons demand chronicle sheets would come out.
20:28:16 <Steven> so i could determine if i wanna buy dragons demand.
20:30:10 <Steven> alright wizard level 9... gains another 5 lbs
20:30:24 <Steven> he is now 390lbs
20:30:49 <Steven> thats like 177k
20:31:03 <Steven> so you guys dont have to do math.
20:31:32 <Steven> hey avatar. I'll buy you the books if you wanna run Kingmaker for us....
20:34:38 <Steven> i got all the way till.... fuck... like February until the conventions start back up lol
20:36:46 <Mekkis> yeah, but it's not PFS
20:37:11 <Steven> so.
20:37:36 <Steven> the con season is over, i got time to do stuff again.
20:38:08 <Steven> my responsibilities currently are take care of my dad, cut wood, stack wood, do whatever the fuck i want.
20:38:17 <Mekkis> what I'm implying is that Avatar doesn't want to play non-PFS RPGs
20:38:28 <Steven> sure he does!
20:38:56 <Steven> Option two Avatar... Skull and shackles! Love me some pirate action.
20:39:07 <Steven> you can get sheets for that one.
20:39:47 <Brunius> Let's do it
20:42:56 <Steven> its one of the few games i know jack all about. I know you are a pirate and on a ship.
20:43:22 <Steven> and that was enough for me to get excited and stop reading about it incase i got a chance to play it.
20:43:36 <Yuugi> ha
20:44:07 <Steven> Also... my 3rd character ever made is a Pirate.
20:44:35 <Steven> Inquisitor of Besmara the Pirate Queen!
20:45:53 <Steven> I would remake him, but not go the hey watch as i intimidate the shit out of you even though you're an Ancient Great Wyrm Red Dragon so long as i dont roll a 2.
20:46:56 <Steven> i stopped buffing it once i got to the +40s with intimidate.
20:47:30 <Steven> his cha is 12.
20:48:26 <Steven> I would probably remake him before he got captured by his first wife.
20:48:38 <Steven> when he was just the first mate of the Posed Whore.
20:48:59 <Avatar> I'd be iffy even to play APs
20:49:14 <Avatar> the problem is the ongoing commitment
20:49:29 <Steven> sad pandas....
20:49:43 <Steven> guess i'll just have to convince one of the people at the shop to run it for me.
20:50:52 <Steven> some cool loot on the chronicle sheets though
20:51:09 <Steven> also gives you an infamy score on a character.
20:51:49 <Yuugi> Pirate + Intimidate always makes me think of the character doing a Captain Morgan-like stance
20:52:44 <Steven> my pirate has never done that. ever.
20:52:55 <Steven> and im actually serious.
20:53:00 <Brunius> who is captain morgan
20:53:22 <Steven> a 'mascot' of a rum company.
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20:56:55 <ReaperSage> think im close to being done
20:57:20 * Steven seriously wants to play skull and shackles.
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21:09:08 <ReaperSage> anyone up for a question?
21:10:37 <Brunius> shoot
21:11:39 <Steven> yeah man, whats your question.
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21:39:12 <ReaperSage> oops
21:39:18 <ReaperSage> sorry >.<
21:40:17 <ReaperSage> For a new character how many traits can a character have? ive 1 racial 1 regional and 1 thats the faction
21:40:47 <Steven> 2 traits no two which can be from the same category
21:41:55 <ReaperSage> That stinks lol, thought i could have the faction trait
21:43:47 <Brunius> What's the racial
21:44:22 <ReaperSage> Spirits in the stone human trait
21:47:25 <ReaperSage> Regional trait, paragon of speed. last I checked they stack
21:49:27 <Brunius> Nope
21:49:30 <Brunius> They're both trait bonuses
21:49:49 <ReaperSage> well then i was taught wrong :/
21:50:52 <ReaperSage> but thats a good thing
21:51:05 <ReaperSage> now I can toss the one and have the other
21:51:10 <Steven> they are both trait bonus
21:51:55 <ReaperSage> the guy i learned from was wrong, easy fix
21:56:24 <ReaperSage> hopefully i have the character sheet about right
21:59:52 <Steven> upload it someplace, and send us the link, we will check it out and tell ya if you done goofed
22:00:22 <Brunius> or Steven will, anyhow
22:00:50 <Steven> no way mang, im about to go play 'Hug a pillow'
22:01:10 <ReaperSage> will do ina sec
22:01:24 <Brunius> :(
22:05:59 <ReaperSage> getting the weight right
22:10:31 <ReaperSage> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=823
22:11:38 <Steven> you currently have a 23 point buy
22:12:55 <ReaperSage> am i not suppose to make the 16 into an 18?
22:13:51 <ReaperSage> nvm it didnt save
22:13:56 <ReaperSage> should be 17
22:14:44 <Steven> okay, adjust the save DC for your spells
22:15:40 <ReaperSage> reset and saved
22:17:15 <Steven> how did you get Draconic language?
22:18:22 <ReaperSage> Prolly another thing i was mistaught
22:20:27 <ReaperSage> nope nope thats why
22:20:40 <ReaperSage> my int mod is different on the other character
22:20:50 <ReaperSage> bonus language not learned
22:23:25 <ReaperSage> So far so good.
22:28:56 <ReaperSage> thank you for looking at it
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23:12:18 <Mekkis> Avatar, you around?
23:12:44 <Mekkis> also: Sir_Balin?
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