// #d&d — 2013-09-08
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01:24:59 <Steven> movie done.
01:25:00 <Steven> time to find another
01:25:21 <Steven> !rand action comedy scifi
01:25:21 <dicebot> Steven, random: action
01:25:26 <Steven> looks like action movie
03:19:35 <Steven> gonna go play some d3
03:26:47 <Brunius> hello SimpleSimon
04:16:43 <Avatar> yo
04:17:22 <Avatar> I have a question
04:17:32 <Avatar> if you play a 7-11 playing down
04:17:36 <Avatar> and you are level 10
04:17:41 <Avatar> which gold do you get
04:17:57 <Avatar> pre season 5
04:21:27 <Steven> you get out of subtier gold
04:21:33 <CWheezy> yeah
04:21:39 <Steven> after august 15th
04:22:01 <Avatar> they were trying to tell me I get tier 10-11 gold
04:22:06 <Avatar> I didn't think that was right
04:22:41 <Avatar> they were saying you only get out of subtier if you're level 9
04:22:53 <Steven> tell them they need to read the GtoP
04:23:05 <CWheezy> yeah because that is clear
04:23:21 <Avatar> what page is it
04:23:45 <CWheezy> it is on multiple pages
04:24:02 <Steven> United States here.
04:24:05 <spider21b> usa from sf
04:24:10 <Tony^Abbott> ohh okay cool
04:24:11 <Mekkis> no. I'm from netherlands
04:24:20 <Tony^Abbott> nice
04:24:33 <Tony^Abbott> sorry for being rude earlier guys, didnt know what this channel was about
04:24:40 <Steven> hey its all good man.
04:24:43 <Avatar> Step 5: Determine the Max Gold for the scenario based on
04:24:43 <Avatar> the PC’s advancement rate and the subtier played. Circle the
04:24:43 <Avatar> applicable value (F). If the PC’s level is not within the subtier
04:24:43 <Avatar> played (such as a 1st-, 2nd-, or 3rd-level character in Subtier
04:24:43 <Avatar> 4–5), circle the Out-of-Subtier gold value or calculate the Outof-Subtier value for Seasons 0–4 by taking the average of both
04:24:43 <Avatar> subtiers and rounding down.
04:24:48 <Mekkis> but from what I've heard, Tony Abbott is a douche
04:24:51 <spider21b> understandable
04:24:58 <spider21b> who?
04:25:07 <Tony^Abbott> Mekkis, yeah he is, and the other guy is a turd sandwich lol
04:25:17 <Mekkis> opposition leader
04:25:20 <Tony^Abbott> but the douche will win pretty quickly i think
04:25:34 <Tony^Abbott> they are about to count votes now
04:25:38 <spider21b> is it like liberal vs cons who is in power there?
04:25:40 <Tony^Abbott> i think in 2 hrs they will call it
04:25:51 <Tony^Abbott> liberals and labo
04:25:58 <Tony^Abbott> which are like democrats in the usa
04:26:04 <Tony^Abbott> labor sorry
04:26:24 <Steven> so its like an election of the left vs the far left?
04:26:32 <Mekkis> sure, but that's because they're all right-wing
04:26:50 <Mekkis> Steven: no. America is really right-wing
04:26:56 <spider21b> yep
04:27:02 <spider21b> very very right wing
04:27:08 <Steven> nah, russia is really right wing.
04:27:27 <Steven> america is just right of center.
04:27:29 <Mekkis> "democrats" are slightly less right-wing than republicans
04:27:47 <spider21b> kinda
04:27:57 <Mekkis> then why is public healthcare so lacking?
04:28:02 <Steven> wait... why are we talking politics?
04:28:03 <Tony^Abbott> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5kUwpeNUtY
04:28:05 <diebot> Tony^Abbott, Kevin Rudd's emotional farewell speech (Former Prime Minister) to the Australian people (Part 1)
04:28:14 <Steven> politics suck...
04:28:25 <Tony^Abbott> in australia this PM has already been kicked out by his own party, then he fought back for leadership
04:28:30 <Tony^Abbott> it was like a soap opera
04:28:35 <spider21b> that's why i love my character spellbook
04:28:51 <Steven> oh yeah, got anything cool?
04:29:01 <Avatar> I can't believe that I've only just retired one character and now I'm already only 5 scenarios away from retiring another
04:29:27 <Tony^Abbott> The primieminister who will lose tonight is crying and sobbing in his farewell speech in that video, worth a look
04:29:33 <Tony^Abbott> he is about to bawl his eyes out
04:29:52 <Steven> the only wizards ive managed to play with have been an abjuration wizard and an enchantment wizard
04:29:59 <spider21b> a wizard 4/ fighter 1
04:30:07 <Mekkis> I wonder how Ballig is affected by this
04:30:11 <spider21b> i love my trans wizard
04:31:02 <Steven> which are both are opposition schools for my thassalonian magic specialist
04:31:23 <Steven> so i've gotten no spells off of either of the times i've played.
04:31:32 <CWheezy> I can't believe its not butter
04:31:49 <Steven> though several of my spells were picked up both times.
04:31:54 <Avatar> ya
04:32:49 <spider21b> what level is your wizard?
04:32:57 <Steven> 8th
04:33:09 <spider21b> wow
04:33:53 <Steven> yeah... some one once told me how necromancy wizard was the worst wizard specialist you could be...
04:34:00 <Steven> and i went... Challenge Accepted.
04:34:32 <Steven> I played with him this last game day, and he told me... your wizard is stupidly OP.
04:35:44 <Steven> i mean seriously... you mind control a bunch of undead, send them against a succubus and then turn into a shadow and all of a sudden you're OP...
04:37:10 <spider21b> awesome
04:37:51 <Steven> 5k more gold and everytime i cast a spell my CL goes up by 1d4-1
04:38:01 <Steven> unless i wanna spend some gold
04:38:11 <Steven> then as a swift action i can make it 1d4+2
04:38:31 <spider21b> nice
04:38:59 <Steven> and if i wanted to use my dhampir boon and my rebuild rules
04:39:04 <Steven> I could get another +2CL
04:39:16 <Steven> taking my CL for necro spells to +4
04:39:26 <Steven> an additional +2 for my favored spell
04:40:10 <spider21b> hum
04:40:23 <Steven> so really, i could get it up to, 8+1d4+4 for non favored spells 8+1d4+6 for favored spell.
04:41:14 <Steven> im waiting for mek to come in and be like, munchkin!
04:44:57 <Steven> ya know the powers of necromancy arcane school just suck hardcore.
04:47:02 <Steven> at 8th level i can see dead and undead things at a range of 10ft... but only if i activate it!
04:47:35 <spider21b> so what can you do?
04:48:20 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard/arcane-schools/paizo---arcane-schools/classic-arcane-schools/necromancy
04:49:19 <Steven> it uses cha to set the DC which is a dump stat for many wizards.
04:50:03 <Steven> then i can make things shaken if i touch them...
04:50:10 <Steven> and frightened if i touch them again.
04:50:20 <Steven> but that means im in melee combat with things.
04:50:48 <Steven> and at 8th level i gain blindsight out to a range of 10ft if they are living/undead.
04:50:55 <Steven> but only if i spend an action to do it.
04:52:24 <Steven> basically compared to other school powers necromancy got the hard shaft.
04:55:01 <CWheezy> too be fair, create undead is super amazing
04:55:21 <CWheezy> monsters only killable in a specific way? yes please
04:56:57 <Steven> meh.... in PFS create undead falls far short.
04:59:30 <Mekkis> is Ballig active?
04:59:44 <Steven> he just quit the channel is all i know
04:59:57 <spider21b> no idea
05:00:20 <spider21b> idk i love buffing characters
05:01:21 <spider21b> i would feel weird with a conj or ill
05:02:45 <Mekkis> is Ballig active?
05:02:54 <Steven> conjuration is ridiculously awesome
05:03:24 <Steven> enemy running away... BAM! Black Tenticles.
05:04:10 <Steven> or as my friends often do.
05:04:29 <Steven> summon cyclops/ankleosaurus
05:04:50 <Steven> cyclops all get nat 20s off their 1/day power of choosing what number they roll.
05:04:59 <Steven> or hey watch as i stun lock this BBEG
05:05:51 <Steven> alright, goin to take a nap before my dad calls me at 6am to go get him something from the store.
05:06:27 <spider21b> nods
05:37:54 <gumnut> hi all
05:43:46 <Avatar> yo
05:43:54 <Avatar> do you play PFS
05:44:05 <gumnut> what's that
05:44:29 <Avatar> pathfinder
05:44:36 <gumnut> i never heard of it
05:45:02 <Avatar> you are missing out
05:45:15 <gumnut> oh ok
05:45:18 <gumnut> what am I missing out on?
05:45:28 <Avatar> sweet gaming
05:45:48 <gumnut> hmm I don't really have time for games these days
05:47:27 <Avatar> usually when I need to level my sheet, I put (to be levelled) next to the experience
05:47:35 <Avatar> which this sheet that I'm looking at has
05:47:38 <Avatar> but I can't tell what's left to do
05:53:00 <Philderbeast> that sucks
05:54:54 <Avatar> not sure whether to go with ice tomb or retribution
05:55:16 <Avatar> ice tomb doesn't seem much better than sleep
05:55:25 <Avatar> except that bad guys can't be easily woken up
05:57:11 <Philderbeast> unfortunatly im no help....
05:57:28 <Philderbeast> i only just started playing
05:58:30 <Avatar> nice
05:58:38 <Avatar> you should play next saturday
05:58:57 <Philderbeast> yea im looking at it
05:59:11 <Philderbeast> not sure what i have on though
05:59:24 <Philderbeast> what do you normally use to play
05:59:44 <Brunius> IRC, CA, and Skype
05:59:46 <Brunius> ?ca
05:59:47 <diebot> Brunius, http://www.pfrpg.com.au/DevCA22b135.zip
06:01:15 <Philderbeast> ok then i had a look at that will need to take another look at it
06:01:22 <Philderbeast> i have been using roll20 for most of my games
06:24:26 <Brunius> I guess we've got Abbott then
06:29:32 <Avatar> I need someone to teach me roll20
09:13:34 <Avatar> so
09:13:38 <Avatar> a ring of spell storing, minor
09:13:41 <Avatar> is 18000gp
09:14:02 <Avatar> but a vibrant purple prism ioun stone, which stores a spell in the same way, is 2000gp
09:14:16 <Avatar> sorry, "one spell level"
09:37:42 <Mekkis> wow... Palmer looks like he'll be in Canberra
09:38:02 <Mekkis> My faith in humanity is feeling betrayed
19:08:14 <Avatar> news report: australian elections are rigged
19:46:31 <Steven> hey
20:55:57 <Mekkis> I don't believe it, Avatar
20:56:00 <Mekkis> give me a link
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21:50:29 <Mekkis> moin
21:51:00 <Mekkis> There once was an old man from Esser,
21:51:00 <Mekkis> Who's knowledge grew lesser and lesser.
21:51:00 <Mekkis> It at last grew so small,
21:51:00 <Mekkis> He knew nothing at all,
21:51:00 <Mekkis> And now he's a College Professor.
21:52:33 gumnut ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
21:52:48 <gumnut> hi all
21:52:53 <Mekkis> hi
21:53:08 <gumnut> hi Mekkis
21:53:12 <Mekkis> hi
21:53:32 <Mekkis> are you interested in online RPGing?
21:53:55 <gumnut> oh Avatar told me something about pathfinder
21:54:00 <gumnut> but I got d/c before I was told
21:54:39 <Avatar> you said you didn't have the time for games
21:54:56 <Steven> bored.
21:55:00 <gumnut> true, but doesn't mean I don't have an interest
21:55:53 <Mekkis> Avatar, could I get some feedback on how I ran WotW?
21:56:37 <Avatar> soitanly
21:56:48 <Avatar> in here or in pm?
21:57:00 <Mekkis> either
21:57:10 <jaggedsoul> hello
21:57:58 <Avatar> it started well at the beginning with the jail breakout and the ogre and the test
21:58:47 <Steven> sup
21:58:53 <Steven> whats your thoughts on dying in a fire?
21:58:58 <Avatar> tiadora and the master were pretty good
21:59:17 <Avatar> the whole training thing was good
21:59:33 <Avatar> you used a solid amount of leniency in letting me get creative with it
21:59:42 <Mekkis> I try to
21:59:50 <Mekkis> there are very few people I would wish that fate on.
21:59:53 <Avatar> I got a bit lost in what was going on when we got on the boat
21:59:56 <Mekkis> At least one of them is in this channel
22:00:08 <Avatar> the battles were the best part of that, so the sooner we got into those battles, the better it was
22:00:15 <Avatar> even though I nearly died
22:00:42 <CWheezy> I probably wouldn't wish that fate on anyone, since I don't think I am someone to be judging that kind of thing
22:00:54 <Avatar> after we blew it up, the geography of the land threw me a bit
22:01:02 <Avatar> I think we spend a bit too much time on that, but that might be me
22:01:12 <Avatar> meeting the bugbear leader was cool
22:01:20 <Mekkis> the "sabotage Balintyne"? bit?
22:01:23 <Avatar> I didn't roleplay but my character was cagey
22:01:38 <Avatar> what
22:01:41 <Mekkis> or the "journey by sea" bit
22:01:47 <Avatar> journey by sea
22:02:00 <Avatar> trying to learn it was sort of important
22:02:07 <Steven> I imagine i would die long before the fire got me... smoke inhalation.
22:02:07 <Avatar> but I got frustrated
22:02:14 <Avatar> it felt a bit slow
22:02:21 <Avatar> the whole boat bit did
22:02:34 <Avatar> the only good parts about that were dealing with the captain, the battle, and the bugbears
22:02:40 <Avatar> and I think we spent a pretty huge amount of time on that
22:02:46 <Mekkis> what were the other parts?
22:02:54 <Avatar> I don't remember
22:02:57 <Avatar> maybe we were fucking around
22:03:14 <Avatar> so anyway, after we left and got into balentyne
22:03:34 <Avatar> I felt pretty significantly lost as to what we were supposed to do
22:03:42 <Avatar> like obviously we were meant to figure it out
22:04:02 <Avatar> all we knew was that there was that inn and the castle and nothing else
22:04:13 <Avatar> and all we had to go on was lintor's disguise
22:04:27 <Avatar> I think we needed more options to begin with
22:04:42 <Mekkis> there were more options
22:04:48 <Avatar> yeah but we didn't know what they were
22:04:56 <Avatar> it was a guessing game and it wasn't fun
22:05:00 <Avatar> and we did it for like 5 sessions?
22:05:17 <Avatar> the diplomacy checks that I made for ages didn't get us far
22:05:43 <Avatar> discarding balin getting into the castle, I don't know what we would've done
22:06:04 <Avatar> I don't know how much the book gives you that you could give us
22:07:00 <Mekkis> you could have discovered the affair between the two captains, and exposed it. There was a secret passage between the inn and the keep. There were blood relations between the bartender and one of the captains.
22:07:03 <Steven> there we go all my emails answered
22:07:43 <Mekkis> Kapow's slaughter of the dwarves was effective
22:07:45 <Avatar> exposing the captains likely would've exposed us
22:07:51 <Avatar> or put more attention on us
22:07:54 <Mekkis> depends how you did it.
22:08:02 <Avatar> I don't think we found out about a secret passage?
22:08:10 <jaggedsoul> nice job Steven
22:08:16 <Avatar> that would've been huge
22:08:26 <Mekkis> you were close. Remember that you heard footsteps in the inn in the middle of the night?
22:08:47 <Avatar> that doesn't really mean anything when you can't see it though
22:08:48 <Steven> im pretty happy bout it.
22:08:52 <Avatar> those could be coming from any direction
22:09:01 <Steven> So whats happenin? anything interesting?
22:09:10 <Mekkis> you could have investigated
22:09:41 <Avatar> I think in a lot of the games you run you tend to give out fewer details than what we need
22:09:52 <Avatar> like you misjudge what's "enough" to keep moving forward on
22:10:07 <CWheezy> I am just seeing if a game will pop up
22:10:24 <Steven> make it happen yo!
22:10:28 <Avatar> waiting for us to ask isn't always the best thing to do
22:10:49 <Avatar> like in that situation you could say you feel it's reasonable safe to investigate
22:11:33 <Mekkis> ok
22:11:43 <Steven> thinkin of gettin my cold iron pick enchanted.
22:11:45 <Avatar> anyway yeah the last act was really dragging on and I'm sure everyone felt that
22:11:49 <gumnut> hi emuls
22:11:53 <Steven> on my wizard.
22:11:58 <Avatar> the last session was awesome
22:12:04 <gumnut> got ignored there buddy looooooooooooooooool
22:12:15 * Avatar sets ban on *!*@101.119.1E8146.2A1DDD
22:12:16 Avatar has kicked gumnut from #d&d (bye)
22:12:48 <Avatar> the whole thing ended as well as it started
22:12:54 <Avatar> just in that last session
22:13:16 <Avatar> I don't think you could've anticipated how long we'd take, to be fair
22:13:33 <Avatar> if you knew it was going to take 5 sessions to get there, you probably would've sped it up
22:13:47 <Avatar> but we needed more info
22:13:52 <Avatar> that was the crux of the problem in that last act
22:14:09 <Mekkis> I figured it'd take about 4 sessions per act
22:14:29 <Avatar> I was bored for a lot of that last act
22:14:41 <Avatar> we were really doing a lot of guesswork
22:15:08 <Avatar> you could tell by the fact that when one person thought up a plan, the others didn't really have much of a say on whether or not it was any good
22:15:08 <Mekkis> alright. Those investigations are always hard. How do you run City of Strangers 1?
22:15:42 <Avatar> no idea, I had a quick look at the book for city of strangers 1 a couple of days ago to see if that's what I should run this coming weekend and I didn't recognise any of it from when we played it
22:15:59 <Mekkis> Ballig ran it for you, ja?
22:17:03 <Avatar> probably, I remember he definitely ran part 2
22:17:10 <Avatar> because I remember the first encounter
22:17:19 <Mekkis> I remember playing part 1, then jumping onto Darkwhite's table for part 2
22:18:43 <Avatar> I mean I think it's even enough to say other places won't really be important except the inn, the castle, and the market to buy stuff
22:18:56 <Avatar> if the book doesn't list anywhere else of note in balentyne
22:19:16 <Mekkis> noted.
22:19:20 <Avatar> some sort of map would've helped
22:19:36 <Avatar> it's a bit like playing blakros matrimony without CA !
22:20:04 <Avatar> it's kind of telling that everywhere we had a map was better than anywhere we didn't
22:20:07 <Mekkis> like playing LSK spending sessions in Willow Ridge buying cows?
22:20:29 <Avatar> that was my first time ever GMing :P
22:20:37 <Mekkis> I know
22:20:39 <Steven> i thought blackros matrimony with no map was great!
22:20:40 <Steven> lol
22:20:44 <Avatar> it was not
22:20:47 <Avatar> it was un-great
22:20:59 <Avatar> try anything once
22:21:04 <Steven> oh come on, i gave you guys huge breaks on stuff.
22:21:14 <Mekkis> I didn't think the lack of a map was what didn't make it great!
22:21:29 <Avatar> getting huge breaks wasn't worth playing without maps
22:22:00 <Avatar> verisimilitude of large parts of the game were lost
22:22:17 <Avatar> it was especially apparent when I GM'd it with the maps
22:22:38 <Steven> yeah get a +1 cold iron pick with phase locking to hand out to people.
22:23:09 <Steven> I think the fight at the beach could have used a map
22:23:56 <Steven> course i dont particularly like the blackrose matrimony, but mostly cause every time i had ran it there was an andoran in the party and the scenario pretty much gives them the middle finger.
22:25:34 <Steven> but now no more faction missions!
22:26:19 <Steven> oh and avatar, you ever figure out what boon you wanted?
22:29:00 <Mekkis> wayang
22:29:43 <Mekkis> my VL is putting me in charge of the boons this con...
22:30:39 <Steven> dont do it man... its boring as shit!
22:30:55 <Steven> i did it at pax...
22:39:44 <Steven> for the pesky bastard bbegs who like to teleport away
22:40:57 <Avatar> we don't have a hundred tables to do it with
22:42:00 <Ulzef> hey mekkis around?
22:47:08 <Steven> he is more humanoid shaped if you ask me.
22:47:37 <Steven> movie to watch.... GO!
22:47:41 <jaggedsoul> lol
22:48:13 <jaggedsoul> hey yuugi
22:48:40 <Yuugi> hi
22:51:01 <Steven> no suggestions... sad panda.
22:54:29 <Steven> alright, im goin to take me a nap... avatar figure out a boon you want
22:59:38 <Yuugi> Suggestion?
23:00:14 <Steven> its okay, im just gonna watch sleepy hollow
23:00:59 <Yuugi> have fun
23:02:18 <Mekkis> time to give Paizo more money...
23:04:32 <Steven> tons of it.
23:04:43 <Steven> it was the first movie i saw in my collection, so i popped it in
23:12:36 boris has quit (Quit: )
23:21:28 <Steven> hmmmm.... so thinkin of getting a ghost touch armor made....
23:22:12 <Steven> so when i turn into a shadow, i can put it on lol
23:25:22 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag-mFowwGho - for the australians
23:25:28 <diebot> Avatar, A Liberal voter explains it for you
23:32:38 <Mekkis> god.. who is that guy?
23:34:23 <Steven> obviously an amazing speaker.
23:35:18 <Steven> i was nappin, and then BAM dad calls, he is out of coffee
23:47:54 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you vote for the Australian Motoring Enthusiast Party?
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