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00:10:09 <Yiroep> Oh goodness. That game is 4 AM for me, lol.
00:10:21 <Yiroep> Could just go to bed REALLY early. :p
00:10:50 <Yiroep> Arg, but I forget that I'm GMing Thursday night...erm, oh well.
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06:11:35 <CWheezy> I have had morphine before
06:11:43 <CWheezy> you basically fly
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06:56:09 <Steven> I has put baby to sleep.
06:56:12 <Steven> I am now exhausted.
06:58:04 <Yiroep> If only you could just cast Lesser Restoration, right? :p
06:59:44 <Steven> i can...
06:59:51 <Steven> there is a bottle of scotch in the cupboard
07:01:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> lesser restoration is figuratively cheaper
07:02:07 <Yiroep> I would argue that acts more like a poiton of Vigor.
07:02:10 <Yiroep> potion*
07:03:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd say it's more like barbarian rage of restortation, as long as you keep drinking, you stay restored, once you stop, you're no longer restored
07:03:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> as in, like the drunken barbarian
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07:06:58 <Yiroep> I apologize, I meant Invigorate.
07:07:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> eh, I've been awake for 28hrs or so, so I'm not that correct myself
07:14:51 <Avatar> why have you been awake for 28 hours
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07:50:22 <CWheezy> hey guys, I have a question
07:50:39 <CWheezy> when dr says "15/Bludgeoning and Magic"
07:50:50 <CWheezy> do you need both or just one to get through that dr
07:50:57 <Yiroep> Both.
07:50:59 <Steven> needs to be both to bypass dr
07:52:47 <CWheezy> ok that is what I thought
07:53:06 <CWheezy> and you can't bypass dr: bludgeoning, slashing, piercing with just magic
07:53:22 <CWheezy> thanks guys
07:57:46 <Avatar> the word 'and' is the key there
07:57:54 <Avatar> I think it's just a comma when it's either or
07:58:06 <Avatar> or a slash
08:02:31 <Mekkis> it's the word "or"
08:02:45 <Mekkis> DR5/cold iron or good, for instance
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08:11:19 <Yuugi> Hi.
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08:46:07 <Steven> suuuuuuuuup bitches
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12:11:38 <fraktal> hey
12:12:48 <Ultio> yo
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12:16:23 <fraktal> I've been looking for a d&d game on here to join, does anyone know of any open slots or upcoming games?
12:16:31 <Yuugi> What edition?
12:20:47 <fraktal> 3/3.5, 4th or next I suppose
12:22:07 <Yuugi> Alright.
12:23:47 <fraktal> or, or Pathfinder
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14:16:01 <Ulzef_mobile> Ello People
14:16:04 <Goya> o/
14:16:09 <Yuugi> Hi
14:16:46 <Ulzef_mobile> how is everyone
14:17:19 <Yuugi> Sleepy
14:17:50 <Goya> Bored. How go things?
14:18:48 <Ulzef_mobile> bored ginished work early cause the servers crashed and waiting for my lift
14:19:11 <Goya> Servers crashed?
14:20:30 <Ulzef_mobile> data servers at work so couldnt get any data to make calls
14:21:13 <Yuugi> Ah.
14:21:16 <Goya> *nods*
14:21:29 <Goya> I dislike server crashes because it means I have to work. =/
14:21:34 <Yuugi> lol
14:21:39 <Ulzef_mobile> work at virtul office/ call centre / it help desk
14:22:55 <Ulzef_mobile> yeah or tec wasnt happy
14:23:11 <Goya> I work IT for a small county. I'm NOT happy when servers crash. ;)
14:23:49 <Ulzef_mobile> if its one of the companys we take calls for nether are we
14:24:27 <Goya> Mind you - I killed a server replacing the CMOS battery.. That was fun.
14:26:14 <Goya> I didn't get fired - so I guess it all worked out. ;)
14:26:53 <Ulzef_mobile> i dont know how you it guys cope with manila and singapoor around . i spent the last few weeks calling places for a it firm to get then more customers
14:27:12 <Ulzef_mobile> i swear everyone is using manila qnd singpoor
14:29:18 <Yuugi> Man,
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14:32:15 <Goya> I live in the sticks - or else - I would probably get outsourced. Again. ;)
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14:39:51 <Goya> wb
14:40:13 <Ulzef> tty
14:40:40 <Ulzef> kicked out the network cord as i sat at the comp really need to fix that at some point
14:41:00 <Goya> hehe
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15:07:41 <Yuugi> 43/64 pages!
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16:06:46 <MekkisScreen> moin
16:10:07 <ReaperSage> morning
16:42:38 <Mekkis> hey Ulzef
16:45:13 <Ulzef> hey sorry watching beck
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17:44:14 <deathgrippin> o/
17:46:59 <Mekkis> hi.
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17:53:08 <WetBlanket> T deathgri
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18:00:04 <deathgrippin> WetBlanket,
18:00:06 <deathgrippin> Mekkis,
18:00:07 <deathgrippin> hello
18:00:53 <WetBlanket> hi
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18:24:15 <Mekkis> h/
18:26:31 <Brunius> o/
18:30:00 <Avatar> I think I'm ditching that 7-11 for friday
18:30:13 <Brunius> why
18:30:20 <Avatar> nobody is signing up
18:30:47 <Ulzef> :( sorry i has already done echoes
18:31:06 <Avatar> yeah that's fine
18:31:15 <Avatar> ditching that one to reschedule something people will play
18:31:27 <Avatar> bad scenario, bad timeslot
18:32:05 <Avatar> where is CWheezy
18:32:18 <CWheezy> what
18:32:21 <Avatar> mr if you book them they will come
18:32:44 <CWheezy> it worked for kevin costner
18:32:51 <Avatar> haha
18:34:57 <Brunius> What
18:35:10 <Brunius> I've got 3 players in friday's 7-11, without you
18:36:38 <Avatar> seriously?
18:36:44 <Avatar> who
18:36:44 <Brunius> That's what I'm seeing
18:36:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd play, except for the whole, don't have 7-11 part
18:36:58 <Brunius> Players
18:36:58 <Brunius> Ben Grunow Paladin 9
18:36:58 <Brunius> Michael Evans Fighter 10
18:36:58 <Brunius> James Gitsham Wizard 8
18:37:09 <Avatar> what's that
18:37:20 <Avatar> this is friday 27th, in here
18:37:32 <Brunius> wait is unicon this weekend
18:37:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unicon is next weekend
18:38:02 <Avatar> I'm GMing on the friday
18:38:02 <Brunius> That's Friday 4/10/13
18:38:05 <Avatar> and I've played feast of sigils
18:38:13 <Brunius> What friday are you talking about then
18:38:20 <Avatar> this friday
18:38:23 <Brunius> I'm flicking through the warhorn and I can't see any fridays other than that
18:38:23 <Avatar> the one in the topic
18:38:28 <Brunius> oh yeah bugger that
18:38:35 <Avatar> what do you mean bugger that
18:38:39 <Brunius> actually
18:38:43 <Brunius> what scenario sorry
18:38:51 <Avatar> echoes of the everwar 3
18:39:09 <Brunius> I think I'm just used to ignoring Friday games in here because I can't play in them
18:39:11 <Brunius> hmm
18:39:33 <Avatar> I'm busy saturday this week and I hate running games on sundays
18:39:50 <Brunius> ugh
18:39:53 <Brunius> I still haven't played part 2
18:40:08 <Brunius> It it weren't for that I'd sign up
18:40:33 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au .
18:40:37 <Avatar> all good
18:40:55 <Avatar> if people want to play a friday night game, I need to hear about it before I schedule another one
18:43:05 <Ulzef> i am but cant do this friday its my sisters 21st
18:43:51 <Darkkapow> :D
18:43:56 <Darkkapow> !!!!!!
18:43:59 <Darkkapow> ALL I HAVE TO SAY!!!!
18:44:01 <Darkkapow> IS !!!!!!!!
18:44:09 <Darkkapow> Hey mekkis!!!!
18:46:04 <deathgrippin> do you need more players
18:46:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> atm, friday night games are maybes, but soon I'll be able to play most if not all of them if I wished (as in right level and haven't played it)
18:46:37 <Avatar> yeah deathgrippin do you play PFS
18:46:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mainly because I spend most friday's with michelle, but she'll be flat out workin soon
18:47:50 <Darkkapow> hey avatar
18:47:54 <Darkkapow> hey hey hey avatar
18:47:56 <Darkkapow> guess what
18:48:10 <Avatar> you're going to run among the trilogy
18:50:28 <Darkkapow> hmm I don't think I have anything to do this sunday no
18:50:36 <Darkkapow> maybe we should schedule it in.
18:50:42 <Avatar> what time
18:50:44 <Darkkapow> 11am
18:50:52 <Darkkapow> not what I was getting at
18:50:59 <Darkkapow> but Among the Dead 11am Sunday sounds good
18:51:25 <Darkkapow> Among the Living i think
18:51:27 <Avatar> you realise among the living is first
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18:51:27 <Darkkapow> let me check
18:51:30 <Darkkapow> yeah
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18:51:36 <Darkkapow> what i was just going wait
18:51:43 <Darkkapow> Among the Living for sunday 11am
18:52:46 <Darkkapow> still like i said avatar not what I was getting at
18:52:48 <Darkkapow> Guess what!
18:52:49 <Darkkapow> ?
18:54:51 <Avatar> what
18:56:01 <Darkkapow> you have to guess :D
18:56:16 <Avatar> that invite list is getting enormous
18:56:26 <Darkkapow> 1 I won't be there for unicon sadly however I will be gming basically every session bar maybe 1 at paizocon
18:56:38 <Avatar> I have to individually de-select people who have played the scenario to stop them getting invites
18:56:42 <Darkkapow> not the only thing avatar ;)
18:57:22 <Avatar> are you a VL
18:59:16 <Darkkapow> in 23 hours maybe
18:59:23 <Darkkapow> XP
18:59:27 <deathgrippin> WetBlanket also wanted to play pathfinder
19:00:27 <Darkkapow> well I am just it will be announced within the next 24 hours
19:00:36 <Darkkapow> Officially announced
19:00:38 <Avatar> have you guys played pathfinder before
19:01:23 <WetBlanket> i have
19:03:57 <Avatar> pathfinder society?
19:04:31 <WetBlanket> hm? no, just with a few friends
19:04:43 <Avatar> ?guide
19:04:45 <Avatar> okay grab this
19:04:47 <diebot> Avatar, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
19:05:04 <Avatar> register an account on www.pfrpg.com.au and set up your character
19:05:28 <Avatar> it's the same thing, a little more stricter on the rules
19:06:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the main difference is that you can't craft
19:07:57 <WetBlanket> Nice, thanks
19:10:51 <Avatar> where are you located
19:11:55 <WetBlanket> Deathgrippin and I are from Illinois, USA
19:13:20 <WetBlanket> I'm assuming a lot of you are from Australia?
19:13:35 <Avatar> about half of us
19:15:43 <Darkkapow> We're a mixed bag
19:15:48 <WetBlanket> Nice. I just finished downloading the Society guide
19:15:55 <WetBlanket> how many American players are there?
19:16:29 <Darkkapow> another number
19:17:05 <Darkkapow> there are a few we normally aim to post game times if we from AUS are running, at times close to possible times for US and other places to play too
19:18:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> usually
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19:19:34 <Darkkapow> you didn't say much else avatar about my awesome news!
19:19:35 <Brunius> Our game times are typically about 11am local, 7pm eastern US
19:19:49 <WetBlanket> Those are decent times
19:23:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> on our saturday or sunday, so your friday or saturday
19:24:11 <Avatar> spaceshot says he's going to GM soon though, so he'll be GMing anytime
19:25:42 <Darkkapow> I love how you throw the gm counter at people avatar it's impresive.
19:25:47 <Darkkapow> impressive even
19:25:58 <Avatar> thanks thanks a lot
19:26:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> basically
19:26:19 <Darkkapow> no problem man keep up the good work.
19:26:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm not exactly sure what I wish to GM first though
19:26:38 <Darkkapow> gm'd before?
19:26:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm thinking GMing specifically modules, but that's just because I like how modules work, not because I find it at all viable
19:26:55 <Avatar> modules are viable
19:27:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I've GMed before, not pfs though
19:27:21 <Darkkapow> Hey avatar you know the cool thing :D we have a second person that can run specials in the channel now :D
19:27:22 <Mekkis> what do you like about them?
19:27:36 <Darkkapow> You get my text mekkis ^_^?
19:27:38 <Mekkis> You're a VL?!
19:27:39 <Mekkis> nope
19:28:09 <Mekkis> congrats
19:28:12 <Darkkapow> got confirmation this morning :D Will be announced by Daniel tomorrow at pfs
19:29:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mainly that they're usually, besides a few low level 1s, a good sized mission that allows enough time to have characters create bonds between each other
19:29:10 <Darkkapow> am still waiting on access to the forums though I want to go read.
19:29:37 <Mekkis> I would completely disagree.
19:29:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm surprised no one here is an online VC/VL (unless I'm wrong)
19:29:56 <Darkkapow> mekkis I am doing the among the series starting sunday so make sure to keep time open
19:30:18 <Mekkis> Darkkapow, I have a con this Sunday, and a con next Sunday
19:30:28 <Avatar> apparently they don't want too many online VLs without a fantastic reason
19:30:33 <Darkkapow> Well VC's & VL's are still that if we're online we just have a region we help with.
19:31:03 <Darkkapow> And a lot of people do both online and in person games so there is cross over
19:31:14 <Darkkapow> which con this sunday?
19:31:26 <Darkkapow> I know unicon is the follow week which I was figuring to skip anyway
19:31:27 <Mekkis> Canberra SpringCon
19:31:31 <Darkkapow> so it'll be 3 fortnights
19:31:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the fact that people here were regularly DMing PFS online before paizo thought it as a good idea to have a online PFS forum?
19:31:44 <Darkkapow> you've played 1 of them haven't you?
19:31:47 <Mekkis> nope
19:32:19 <Darkkapow> you don't want to play them out of order either do you :/?
19:32:54 <Mekkis> ideally not
19:33:42 <Darkkapow> :( was going to say If you missed one I could of probably organised to run it friday before paizocon or something and invited a few people
19:34:18 <Darkkapow> Also I take it you've already passed along the Paizocon email to everyone here?
19:35:44 <Mekkis> not everyone here
19:36:49 <Darkkapow> those it's likely relevant too though yes?
19:37:03 <Mekkis> yes
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19:44:45 <Ulzef> i find out tomorrow if i have the time off for brizzy
19:45:06 <Darkkapow> woot!
19:45:12 <Darkkapow> I just did all of my sign ups now
19:45:28 <Darkkapow> Running 1, Playing 1 each day hopefully unless we need more gms
19:47:28 <Mekkis> I want to GM the special
19:50:23 <Avatar> you should have GM'd year of the shadow lodge
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20:01:48 <Steven> yo
20:07:05 <Avatar> trust Steven
20:08:12 <Steven> that would be a horrible idea.
20:09:03 <Avatar> INDEED
20:09:11 <Steven> heh
20:09:17 <Steven> hows it goin avatar?
20:09:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I would go to brissy for paizocon, if I weren't already going down to Adelaide to see family either that weekend or the previous
20:12:15 <Steven> solution take the family to the con.
20:12:23 <Steven> two for one!
20:12:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sadly, I do not have that much dosh
20:12:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and if that were the case, I'd have to spend time with my dad's side in brisbane, rather than go to a con
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20:14:43 <Steven> wow there is a lot of crybaby bullshit on the forum lately.
20:15:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's as if that's something new to paizo forums
20:16:08 <Steven> it comes in waves.
20:17:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know on pfs forums in particular it's usually people bitching, people telling others they aren't optimised enough, and others whining for one reason or another that they're over pfs
20:18:17 <Darkkapow> Hey steven :D
20:18:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar, would you GM star to replay ruby phoenix with buck?
20:18:25 <Steven> yeah, i wouldnt hang around them save that as a VO i kinda feel obligated to check once and again
20:19:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sounds more like a chore than anything else
20:19:35 <Darkkapow> I gm star'd the weekend gone cause I went to go GM for a group of people on behalf of our VC cause he had work then they didn't have enough people for a table for me so I had to play on one of the others so I could mingle and meet and I had played both already.
20:19:56 <Steven> so you could have played for no credit sir.
20:20:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, I hope that the playtests of ACG are sooner than later, would prefer to not have to make a -6 (got 4 chars, and -4 died) till I have at least a second character out of 1-3
20:20:30 <Darkkapow> ah well, whats done is done now I get my next star soon enough
20:20:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you could have
20:20:52 <Steven> should have saved em for Eyes of the 10!
20:20:55 <Steven> lol
20:21:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> personally, I'd only GM star modules, both get the most bang out of my buck, and because I like modules (great fan of ruby phoenix, especially since I got to up level it just before up leveling for modules ended)
20:21:35 <Darkkapow> I haven't even played it once yet steven
20:21:48 <Steven> I GM star'd two evil boons.
20:22:00 <Darkkapow> and I am thinking I may be the one to burn it for our city if I don't get a chance to play it here soon.
20:22:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there's a boon to be evil?
20:22:27 <Darkkapow> I think he means boon's that require you to go evil to acquire
20:22:47 <Steven> indeed kapow.
20:22:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ah
20:22:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm stil new to boons
20:23:08 <Steven> Only way i could get them on my thassalonian specialist.
20:23:31 <Steven> and whats a necromancy thassalonian specialist who worships lasalla without the evil lasallan boons
20:24:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you do realise thassalonian specialist, at least the one that gives 2 bonus spell slots and unable to cast the prohibs isn't allowed
20:24:57 <Steven> you do realize it is allowed if you have the correct boon right?
20:25:01 <Darkkapow> So what did you replay then? I vaguely remember all the cult lasalla stuff but I forget scenario names.
20:25:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which boon?
20:25:55 <Darkkapow> Steven breaks all the rules cause he just has a little case that he rummages through and goes oh look this boon! I was looking for that
20:26:18 <Steven> thats how i do it too.
20:26:56 <Steven> and the boon is called Student of Thassilon
20:27:04 <Darkkapow> I have a tonne of boons but I've never used any of them, none of them are particularly amazing
20:27:08 <Darkkapow> wait no that's a lie
20:27:16 <Darkkapow> rivalries end and way of the kirin
20:27:28 <Steven> I have the raise dead boon from gencon.
20:27:44 <Darkkapow> I want it for my cleric of Deskari XP
20:28:15 <Darkkapow> Or I am thinking I might take a level of alchemist and take some horrible mutagen specialised archetype
20:28:36 <Steven> so long as i have 4PP i can buy a raise dead for myself or for someone else.
20:29:21 <Darkkapow> That's cool
20:29:26 <Steven> and at the end of every scenario i play it costs me all the prestige i have earned until i pay for the Raise dead, but the raise dead costs 20PP instead of 16.
20:29:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how do those sort of boons work? do they work for the current character, or a new one?
20:29:53 <Darkkapow> The character who the chronicle sheet applies to
20:30:05 <Darkkapow> Unless it's some kind of special boon like a Race boon or something.
20:30:35 <Steven> the boons usually have the instructions on how to use it worded into the boon.
20:31:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know the axebeak works for that character
20:31:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I'm not sure about archetype ones from scenarios
20:31:58 <Darkkapow> I can't wait to play diamond city :D
20:32:08 <Darkkapow> We have a level 15 coming so far as the highest registered
20:33:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> our current highest is 9, but avatar could always buck it up
20:33:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> same with mekkis bringing his 13 in
20:34:11 <Steven> im hoping i get to play siege this winterfest.
20:35:23 <Darkkapow> I'll have a 10 or 11 on the table for it which will be fun, I don't get to run or play enough high level scenario's now, with the exception of Rivalry's End and Way of the Kirin nothing in the last 3 months I've played or run has been outside the 1-5 bracket
20:35:36 <Darkkapow> So currently I now have 3 lvl 4-5 characters and a level 10
20:35:59 <Steven> hey that level 10 is high enough to fight the <redacted>
20:36:44 <Darkkapow> 10th level alchemist with force bombs :D
20:36:54 <Darkkapow> making people cry.
20:37:30 <Darkkapow> I need to learn the new inventory stuff and fix up all of my characters inventories because they are all mismoshed
20:37:31 <Steven> i made a paladin so pissed off that the <redacted> wouldnt fight him he went and posted on the forum about me.
20:38:09 <Darkkapow> did he have antagonise?
20:38:16 <Steven> nope
20:38:23 <Darkkapow> then there was no problem.
20:38:36 <Steven> and even if he did, it would have just hit him with a ranged attack
20:38:52 <Steven> are you gonna GM or play it Kapow?
20:38:57 <Darkkapow> Only thing you can do to make something attack you regardless of tactics or gm is Antagonize.
20:39:14 <Darkkapow> I will be playing it as we are already full on gm's for Diamond City according to the registry
20:39:22 <Darkkapow> if we need gm's then I'll end up gm'ing it.
20:39:26 <Steven> oh darn... i wanted to tell you the story.
20:40:22 <Darkkapow> We have 2 gm's signed up and you only need 1 right because it's the entire even across multiple tables or do you need 1 for each table individually because I know it works with the multiple tables and multiple teirs in one big fight all together
20:40:27 <Darkkapow> but thats about as much as I know
20:40:45 <Steven> you need 1 GM to be the head judge, and then 1 gm for each table.
20:40:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think it's one per table
20:40:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or one per 5 players, either one
20:41:08 <Darkkapow> yeah so I will be gm'ing it then but not head judge
20:41:18 <Steven> okay messaging you!
20:42:53 <Darkkapow> registered nick :P
20:43:09 <Steven> are you getting my messages?
20:43:34 <Darkkapow> yeah i am
20:43:37 <Darkkapow> I just can't reply in there
20:43:40 <Darkkapow> so keep sending them
20:43:42 <Darkkapow> I am reading
20:43:54 <Steven> okay how do i change my mode again
20:43:58 <CWheezy> Darkkapow: you could pay the gm dat money
20:44:04 <CWheezy> to get him to do what you want
20:44:44 <Darkkapow> I'm certaintly not allowed to do that.
20:44:48 <Darkkapow> How would that look.
20:45:14 <CWheezy> really funny
20:45:22 <CWheezy> the skeleton looks at you and raises his rusty scimitar
20:45:27 <CWheezy> 10 dollars says he doesn't
20:45:34 <CWheezy> indeed, he then looks at steven
20:45:55 <CWheezy> it is kinda like you are batman
20:46:09 <Steven> yo kapow, join #spoilers
20:46:16 <Steven> that way you can talk back if you want
20:48:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> with GM credit, how does it exactly work? like can I add it to a character who isn't of applicable level?
20:50:23 <Steven> yes, and the credit is held until the minimum level for the scenario is reached.
20:50:34 <Steven> at which time you apply it immediately.
20:50:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk, so then you get the rewards (xp, gold and boons if any)?
20:51:32 <CWheezy> yeah
20:51:36 <CWheezy> you get boons too don't you
20:55:14 <Steven> yes, you get any boons you decide your character wants
20:57:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> even if the players themselves in the scenario/module did not qualify for them?
20:59:16 <Steven> you get any boons you decide your character wants
20:59:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk, nice
21:00:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and the same character can't have the same sheet twice can it?
21:00:52 <Brunius> never ever
21:03:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> double checking
21:03:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well I'm tempted to run a module here once a month over a weekend if possible
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21:07:41 <Bloodlust> hidey ho
21:10:29 <Avatar> yo
21:10:35 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: let me know the details and I'll put it up
21:10:56 <Bloodlust> Still pondering on what/how to create the new character
21:11:36 <Bloodlust> been reading a lot about bards and witches
21:13:04 <Avatar> I dunno about bards man
21:13:26 <Avatar> I can't picture life with a bard
21:13:26 <Bloodlust> I think you REALLY need to know what you're doing
21:13:44 <Bloodlust> or you'll make it all wrong and waste those chronicles
21:13:44 <Avatar> my archaeologist only seems to have one viable build
21:17:55 <Bloodlust> yeah
21:18:24 <Avatar> I mean I wanted a whip to start off with, and I couldn't have that so I settled for something similar
21:18:30 <Avatar> and it turned out I couldn't even have the alternative
21:18:47 <Avatar> and actually I couldn't even have anything except this specific setup or else I was dead meat
21:18:49 <Bloodlust> You're very keen on wizards - why?
21:18:53 <Bloodlust> They seem so squishy
21:19:16 <Avatar> they are squishy but they're powerful
21:19:57 <Avatar> witches are especially good because they get flight at 5th level
21:20:05 <Avatar> so do wizards, with the spell
21:20:53 <Steven> alright... whats goin on?
21:21:21 <Steven> 2 new scenarios come out tomorrow. pretty jazzed bout that
21:23:04 <Bloodlust> I think I like that you don't need to prepare spells
21:23:10 <Bloodlust> and hexes are unlimited use
21:23:20 <Bloodlust> well, once per critter but that's still great
21:23:44 <Steven> it really comes down to bloodlust do you want to be a buffer or a debuffer?
21:25:23 <Bloodlust> see I've never played anything
21:25:35 <Bloodlust> I like to play things that can dish out pain and stop enemies
21:25:43 <Steven> so be the debuffer.
21:25:45 <Bloodlust> giving them a -2 to stuff just doesn't seem very sexy
21:25:54 <Steven> slumber man...
21:26:04 <Bloodlust> slumber dos seem to awesome
21:26:26 <Steven> its the bane of GMs everywhere.
21:26:41 <Bloodlust> save DCs are lower
21:26:51 <Bloodlust> for hexes than spells
21:27:23 <Bloodlust> Reading through this at the moment: http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=480
21:27:41 <Steven> yeah... its almost like you have a free casting of sleep and what not for every enemy before ever having to use a spell
21:28:10 <Avatar> you still need to prep spells as a witch
21:28:29 <Avatar> the hexes will fail you sometimes
21:28:52 <Avatar> that's when you'll be saying damn maybe I should have been a wizard
21:29:04 <Avatar> and I can't believe how bad that spells are
21:29:09 <Avatar> these* spells
21:31:06 <Steven> i rather like the with spell list
21:32:13 <Avatar> you can't like the witch spell list without liking the wizard spell list more
21:32:28 <Avatar> unless you really have a thing for vomit swarm
21:32:53 <Steven> i do.
21:34:40 <Bloodlust> dip wizard to use wands?
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21:46:05 <Bloodlust> dang
21:46:08 <Bloodlust> what did I miss?
21:46:25 <Bloodlust> I think I clicked on a link that used this window
21:46:48 <Ulzef> i'll omen is nice
21:46:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> Avatar: I'd prefer to run ruby phoenix first because I've played it before, but I'm not sure if there are enough people who can play it, let alone wish to
21:47:16 <Avatar> forget that, I'm running ruby phoenix
21:47:21 <Avatar> I've been waiting years to run it
21:47:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not if I run it first
21:47:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and anyway, you can still play ruby phoenix with buck using GM credit
21:47:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> GM star*
21:47:55 <Avatar> I'll run you first
21:47:58 <Avatar> look out
21:48:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> OH BOY
21:48:08 * Steven grabs some popcorn
21:48:14 <Avatar> I played ruby phoenix with Snickers chief
21:48:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know, but you can GM star
21:48:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> do you know about GM star?
21:48:32 <Avatar> I'm not replaying it
21:48:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I've got a feeling you don't know about GM star
21:49:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> for each GM star you have, you may replay a scenario (or module) for credit, or gain GM credit for a scenario (or module) you've already got GM credit for
21:49:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and you write down that you're using a GM star (and which star specifically you're using) for it
21:50:17 <Bloodlust> that's why he said he didn't want to "replay" it
21:50:31 <Avatar> yeah what did you think I meant
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21:51:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar, it's best to replay a scenario or module at the top of the xp chain, especially a level 12 able one
21:51:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> since there is only so few at that level
21:51:30 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, it's best to not game the system of GM credit. Or replays
21:51:37 <CWheezy> too bad mike brock hasn't given me my star back
21:51:43 <CWheezy> :'(
21:51:45 <Avatar> I'll only replay something I particularly want to replay
21:51:52 <CWheezy> I miss the ten games I gm'd in 2012
21:51:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what? I'm only stating the additional benefit
21:52:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ruby phoenix is still awesome and worth replaying, even just for fun and no credit
21:52:17 <Mekkis> plus, does it even work for modules?
21:52:25 <Mekkis> I didn't think it was that awesome
21:52:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it does
21:52:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's been asked on the forums and answered by the powers that be
21:52:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I could dig it up if you wish verification
21:52:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I don't like google-fuing on my laptopn
21:53:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> laptop*
21:53:23 <Avatar> define powers that be
21:53:33 <Avatar> because random posters don't really count any more than we do
21:53:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no I mean the pfs leaders
21:53:58 <Avatar> source us up and then we'll talk
21:54:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mike or whoever
21:54:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmk
21:55:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> According to the guide on page 20 under Replaying Scenarios, modules are included in the GM star replay options.
21:55:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's the comment, from september 1st by a VL
21:55:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so it technically wasn't by a PFS leader themselves, but it is their wording (since they make the PFS guide)
21:57:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm only going to be replaying modules for credit, not for gamyness, but just because I don't want to take someone elses slot for a module yet I still would like to play them again (would love to play ruby phoenix again with a propler level 11 tien)
21:57:29 <Mekkis> why replay for credit at all
21:57:39 <Mekkis> why not run them twice for credit
21:57:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I'd prefer to play it a second time for credit
21:57:53 <Steven> mebe cause he wants to play?
21:58:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I don't mind GMing it multiple times for not credit
21:58:16 <Bloodlust> what tier is Ruby Phoenix?
21:58:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm not GMing for credit, especially not level 8+ scenarios/modules
21:58:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 11-12
21:58:38 <Brunius> it's a level 11 scenario, I believe
21:58:49 <Brunius> so you can play it from 10-12
21:58:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's 11 and whatever 12 use to be called
21:59:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm not sure if it's 10-12, but it's at least 11-12, brunius might be right about the 10-12 part
21:59:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup, 10-12
21:59:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> at least the chronicle on additional resources says so
22:00:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that reminds me, I need to figure that sheet out on my character, and I need to level ava still
22:02:31 <Avatar> want to hear a funny story
22:02:41 <Brunius> I daresay we don't have a choice
22:02:45 <Bloodlust> I could play it with Mojo. He'll be level 11 after Saturday
22:02:47 <Avatar> there's a we be goblins shirt that I asked if it could be used for a shirt reroll
22:02:58 <Avatar> the COO of the paizo web store says yes they are
22:03:00 <Avatar> a VL said no they're not
22:03:14 <Avatar> then the VL said actually they're both wrong really
22:03:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I bet it's usable only in we be goblins, or we be goblins too
22:03:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and the web store will say anything to get you to buy something
22:03:50 <Avatar> it is been horrendously hard to get a ruling on anything
22:04:46 <Avatar> have you had prior experience with the web store in having that happen
22:05:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not that webstore, but webstores in general
22:05:12 <Avatar> cmon
22:05:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I wouldn't put it past them, but I also wouldn't say they're evil
22:05:21 <Avatar> webstores in general don't have organised play games attached to them
22:05:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> usually
22:05:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar, check the PFS Guide and see if it's one of the shirts listed there as reroll giving
22:05:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if not, don't use it
22:06:02 <Avatar> I know what the book says
22:06:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so the problem being?
22:06:13 <Avatar> but a COO said yes they're allowed
22:06:27 <Avatar> that's strange, because it suggests that he might outrank mike brock
22:06:43 <Avatar> but then a VL comes back saying no these are the rules
22:06:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> he probably does outrank mike in general
22:06:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I doubt he has any say in PFS guide
22:07:35 <Avatar> mike outranks the PFS guide, so that would suggest so does he
22:07:44 <Bloodlust> So when are you going to run it Avatar?
22:07:54 <Avatar> I've just been waiting for people to be in tier
22:08:04 <Avatar> I think most of us have played it
22:08:07 <Bloodlust> I'm good :)
22:08:10 <Bloodlust> Is it a hard one?
22:08:15 <Avatar> no
22:08:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know me, avatar and brunius have played it
22:08:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's no bonekeep
22:08:26 <Avatar> we played it back when you could make a level 11 character from scratch and use that and apply credit
22:08:35 <Avatar> so we had powered up characters
22:08:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
22:08:40 <Avatar> but it was still really easy
22:08:42 <Brunius> yeah way OP
22:08:50 <Brunius> wand of holy sword lel
22:08:55 <Avatar> lol
22:09:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it was easier than we expected
22:09:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but we did expect it to be hard
22:09:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so, I don't know how it puts it into context
22:09:23 <Avatar> it is a great module
22:09:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it was fun indeed
22:09:35 <Avatar> I expected much less going in
22:09:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also you'd have to read up on the extra rules, and ask stephen how they exactly work
22:09:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> same
22:10:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I expected it to just be hard, and nothing fancy
22:10:46 <Brunius> That fight where uh
22:10:56 <Brunius> I'm trying to figure out how to say it without giving it away
22:10:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> If I were to start running modules, what level, or level band would people want?
22:11:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I loved the [redacted] fight were the brace was hilarious
22:11:14 <Steven> theres a room up called #spoilers
22:11:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, avatar, do you get your scenarios from someone/somewhere, or do you buy them yourself?
22:24:18 <Avatar> I buy them
22:24:39 <Avatar> lately I've bought a few that I haven't been able to get players for
22:25:25 <Brunius> such as...
22:25:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how much are scenarios and modules?
22:25:59 <Brunius> scenarios are $4 each
22:26:01 <Avatar> such as the last 3 odd games I've set up, minus rise of the goblin guild
22:26:03 <Brunius> modules I don't know
22:26:59 <Avatar> modules are about $10 I think
22:27:02 <Mekkis> $10 each
22:27:36 <Bloodlust> what can't you get players for Avatar?
22:29:07 <Avatar> I bought the sarkorian prophecy prematurely when we were setting up that 7-11
22:29:37 <Avatar> rivalry's end I scheduled twice
22:29:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea modules are about $10, though I would probably chip in the additional $3-4 and get them in print at mind games
22:30:03 <Avatar> frozen fingers of midnight didn't have enough
22:30:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> though there are 3 single scenario length modules free, and a 4-6 module free
22:30:13 <Darkkapow> I've run Rivalry's end twice and kirin twice too
22:30:23 <Avatar> and echoes of the everwatched 3
22:30:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I could run Dawn of the Scarlet Sun (4-6 module)
22:30:44 <Darkkapow> I haven't been around to play in anything for awhile
22:30:52 <Avatar> looking through my scenarios, I've just realised I've forgotten to get storming the diamond gate running
22:30:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I could slap it on to ava if I really wanted to level her XD
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22:34:50 <Bloodlust> diamond gate is one and only tpk :(
22:35:18 <Avatar> I had no dramas playing it
22:37:00 <Ulzef> i was the only one that lived when we played diamond gate
22:37:04 <Steven> back
22:37:22 <Steven> you know avatar you could buy Dragons demand, and get 3 modules for the price of 1.7 of them.
22:37:31 <Steven> 1.8 even
22:38:16 <Steven> and if you apply all 3 sheets to the same character, BAM! 4th sheet... level 1 to 5 done.
22:38:41 <Avatar> why are you telling me, I don't want to run a module
22:38:43 <Avatar> except ruby phoenix
22:39:07 <Avatar> spaceshot seems to be the one who wants lots of GM credit on the cheap
22:39:12 <Ulzef> golden death is fun
22:39:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm not doing it for GM credit, I just like modules
22:40:14 <Steven> its like a mini ap....
22:40:55 <Bloodlust> anyone want to run dragon's demand? I'll put my new witch up for it if they do
22:41:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> probably eventually
22:43:02 <Bloodlust> the first four levels in one big story arc sounds awesome
22:43:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that is true
22:43:24 <Bloodlust> hence why I made Mojo for Thornkeep
22:43:30 <Bloodlust> he playe din all but one of the levels
22:50:19 <Ulzef> i am finishing running the everflame 3 parter this weekend
22:50:28 <Ulzef> those are some killer mods
23:23:50 <Mekkis> everflame's a killer mod?
23:24:25 <Yiroep> Golden Death? Ewwwww.
23:24:36 <Yiroep> I played it and GMed it, and I never want to see it again.
23:24:48 <Darkkapow> I want to run the special in here once I can.
23:25:48 <Yiroep> I want to play Ruby Phoenix once I get another 12. :p
23:26:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar said he'll GM it, probably once there's enough people to play it
23:28:31 <Bloodlust> that makes two :)
23:30:36 <Darkkapow> I'll play once henry hits 12
23:30:44 <Darkkapow> need 4 more xp i think
23:30:59 <Yiroep> I dunno who I would want to play with...
23:31:25 <Yiroep> My Fighter/Barbarian/Ranger is 1 XP from 12, but I dunno if I want to continue playing him. Although level 12 is a major boost for him.
23:33:25 <Bloodlust> I'll be in with my Samurai
23:33:29 <Darkkapow> I really am thinking of taking some alchemist on my cleric
23:33:31 <Bloodlust> He'll be level 11 after saturday
23:33:33 <Darkkapow> just to make it interesting
23:45:38 <Bloodlust> anyone here played a witch?
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23:46:04 <Yiroep> No, but I'm excited to see how the Shaman class is.
23:46:22 <Yiroep> I also got killed by a witch this weekend in Shattered Star, lol.
23:46:48 <Bloodlust> shaman?
23:46:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I hope shaman is just hexes and revelations, yet not really any spell casting
23:47:01 <Yiroep> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lf8m?Advanced-Class-Guide
23:47:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that
23:47:52 <Yiroep> I'm fine w/ w/e.
23:47:57 <Yiroep> I just hope it's a cool class.
23:49:23 <Bloodlust> when is it due out?
23:49:25 <Yiroep> Our GM decided to play rough with us and give the witch the Agile template. She slumber hexed me and then coup-de-grace in the same round, lol.
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23:50:45 <Yiroep> Dunno.
23:50:49 <Yiroep> It's not on their schedule yet.
23:51:08 <Bloodlust> damn, makes me want to NOT create a new character now
23:51:12 <Yiroep> Ditto.
23:51:24 <Brunius|M> Spaceshot_tm2_: mode -R?
23:52:01 <Yiroep> But I already have 2 level 2 characters and 2 3's so I'm good on not having to make one.
23:52:05 <Yiroep> I also have a GM'd level 2...
23:52:12 <Yiroep> But that's the one I want to save.
23:52:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I should be
23:52:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'll test it
23:53:06 <Bloodlust> bah, you run out of scenarios
23:53:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> did you get that?
23:53:23 <Bloodlust> and I have no intention of Gm'ing. I would hate that.
23:54:03 <Bloodlust> looks like I might have to wait on making that witch
23:54:08 <Bloodlust> see what comes out
23:54:26 <Yiroep> Meh. When you have characters all spread out it doesn't matter. You just play whatever character fits.
23:56:10 <Brunius|M> I can, Spaceshot_tm2_ , but you need yo set mode -R so I can message you back