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01:14 <Steven> changing damage types is nice... but its a really nerfed mystery.
11:54 <Yiroep> I just plan on having him be really good at dispel magic.
12:03 <Yiroep> He's probably one of my worst characters, but he's still O.K.
12:29 <Yiroep> He has decent AC (21 at level 1 is O.K.) and can flank. He is also a seeker so he can pick locks and such...
12:46 <Yiroep> 16 dex. Pretty high for an oracle. :p
14:04 <Yiroep> He's gonna be really good at dispelling. He took the +1 CL trait for dispel magic, and is gonna take spell specialization, varisian tattoo (abjuration), and then the revelation to make him count as higher.
14:19 <Yiroep> For a secondary I plan to give him a lot of abjuration protection spells to help out the party.
14:44 <Yiroep> Abjuration specialist, really.
35:32 <Yiroep> It's basically what happens when you begin running out of ideas. It was amusing during first steps, though. "Oh, unlock the door? Well, this armor makes it hard for me to pick locks. Anyone wanna help me take it off?!?!"
35:39 <Yiroep> He became known as the "nudist halfling."
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17:52 <Steven> by design....
24:34 <Steven> but yeah, stopped playing eve... switched banks... and now cant play.
27:34 <Brunius> Why?
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29:28 <Steven> because my bank doesnt let eve transactions through.
29:44 <Brunius> oh, that's this bank?
30:10 <Brunius> Do they sell the timecards over there?
30:18 <Brunius> You might be able to get them on Amazon or something
30:35 <Steven> they dont sell them in any of the stores.
36:38 <Steven> mostly used to run around in a vexor
37:08 <Steven> with some t2 drones and just zombie out while watching anime.
38:06 <Brunius> Ah, doing missions?
38:47 <Steven> yup
39:11 <Steven> towards the end i had a... fuck
39:14 <Steven> i dont remember the name
39:20 <Brunius> Dominix?
39:29 <Steven> it basically loaded up on ways to screw people over
39:35 <Steven> inter something....
40:09 <Steven> it was the gallente interdictor i think
40:09 <Brunius> Interceptor?
40:10 <Steven> fuck...
40:17 <Steven> started with a p
40:27 <Brunius> Proteus?
41:04 <Steven> that sounds close...
42:13 <Steven> i just remember it was the only ship i could pilot that could fit warp destabilization fields
42:14 <Brunius> Phobos
42:34 <Steven> that sounds close...
42:44 <Steven> might be it... it was a while ago.
42:48 <Brunius> "Note: can fit warp disruption field generators"
43:10 <Steven> I just remember camping gates with some friends and bein total dicks.
43:25 <Brunius> In null, or low?
43:33 <Brunius> Can you even do warp disruption in low?
43:49 <Steven> in null
44:23 <Steven> they still play
45:00 <Steven> but i went into the hospital for a bit due to lung problems
45:01 <Brunius> Just NPC null, or were you part of a sov-holder?
45:17 <Steven> and when i got out i just lost the taste for it.
46:14 <Steven> Hell if i know man, I was doin zombie tasks killin time and then my friends were like yo steve you can warp scramble right? and im like yeah... if i finish some training up, take me bout a day.
46:40 <Steven> and they were like cool, research it we will buy you this ship and the stuff... you keep people from fleeing while we camp.
47:03 <Brunius> heh
47:08 <Steven> and that was my first taste of piracy....
47:53 <Brunius> I'm sitting in Amarr FW at the moment, but I'd like to move to null one day
48:19 <Steven> i never would have ventured into null if they hadnt come and gotten me.
51:30 <Steven> im gonna start updating eve.
51:37 <Steven> kinda wanna find a way to play it now.
55:24 <Brunius> http://www.amazon.com/Days-Game-Time-Exclusive-Ship/dp/B00A2CI7RE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379483536&sr=8-1&keywords=eve+time+code
55:30 <Brunius> D'you think that would work?
58:14 <s711> Is iOS 7 on your things yet?
12:27 <Steven> prolly will.
12:36 <Steven> sorry took the dogs out.
12:42 <Steven> they were bein annoying
14:16 <Steven> do bounties expire?
15:06 <Brunius> Don't think so
15:20 <Steven> hmm... may want to just start a new account then.
15:21 <Brunius> They pay out as a percentage of the value of the ship you're flying
15:51 <Brunius> So it shouldn't really matter that much
15:57 <Brunius> I doubt people would target you due to bounty anyway
32:37 <Steven> oh mans! bout half way updating.
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55:00 <Steven> 80%
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19:48 <Avatar> yo sup
20:14 <Steven> sup mang
39:37 <Avatar> the unicon schedule is up: https://warhorn.net/events/melbourne-pfs/schedule/2013/10
40:56 <Brunius> urgh I forgot about unicon
41:14 <Brunius> I don't think I've played any of those
41:58 <Avatar> not sure who is good to bring to the special anymore
42:04 <Avatar> Buck was my go-to guy, but he's level 12 now
42:29 <Avatar> might be time to bring Cairo out of the woodworks for that one
42:31 <Brunius> isn't there a 12+ tier
42:41 <Avatar> eyes of the ten takes priority
43:02 <Avatar> I don't like that they're considering retiring it soon
43:11 <Avatar> that is a disaster for anyone trying to get characters to 12 to play it
44:00 <Brunius> !findchar Bairaq
44:12 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Bairaq, number: 333( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=333 )
45:09 <Brunius> !findchar Derau
45:09 <diebot> Brunius, Character: Derau, number: 277( http://www.pfrpg.com.au/viewchar.php5?char=277 )
45:36 <Steven> IF they retire it, it will be replaced by something else.
45:56 <Steven> there is also talk of an Eyes of the ten part 2
46:07 <Steven> at the 14-15 range.
46:20 <Steven> due to the number of level 12s we currently have.
46:28 <Avatar> there is already an eyes of the ten part 2
46:33 <Avatar> and a part 3 and 4 too
46:41 <Steven> you know what i mean smart ass.
46:44 <Avatar> :D
46:48 <Brunius> Not playing anything on the friday, Avatar?
46:55 <Avatar> I'm running prince of augustana
47:12 <Avatar> probably running a game on the saturday morning too
47:24 <Avatar> either green market or the fabric of reality
47:31 <Steven> patch 3/4 on eve
47:35 <Steven> fuck this thing takes forever...
47:48 <Brunius> London servers bro
48:02 <Steven> okay, avatar, movie to watch.., GO!
48:33 <Avatar> er
48:39 <Avatar> what kind of movie do you want
48:48 <Steven> thats not how this works...
48:53 <Steven> first movie to pop into your head.
48:58 <Avatar> doubt
49:50 <Steven> A Catholic school principal questions a priest's ambiguous relationship with a troubled 12-year-old student.
50:04 <Steven> dude... im not watching that...
50:18 <Brunius> Witness
50:25 <Avatar> you have to watch it
50:29 <Avatar> you can't say NAME A MOVIE ANY MOVIE
50:32 <Avatar> and then say no not that one
50:35 <Avatar> you're locked in now
50:52 <Avatar> I even double checked for genre and you turned me away
50:55 <Steven> dude im not watching a movie about the problems the catholic church face.
51:06 <Avatar> it's about religion and sex
51:17 <Avatar> I mean cmon!
51:17 <Steven> im not catholic... so its gonna be boring as shit.
51:24 <Avatar> oh you think I am catholic
51:32 <Avatar> I'm the Avatar
51:38 <Steven> no, but you're australian.
51:44 <Avatar> get out of town
51:47 <Steven> lol
52:07 <Steven> you know what the best part of this is... im already playing it. 
52:27 <Avatar> you had me going for a second
52:43 <Steven> a second... of... doubt?
52:50 <Steven> OH YOU SEE WHAT I DID THERE!!!!!
52:53 <Avatar> zing
53:19 <Steven> oh shit!  eve is updated all the way.
54:23 <Avatar> the game at blackburn on sunday has a party with 3 monks in it
54:43 <Avatar> they must have seen phillipe use crane style
54:52 <Avatar> while the rest of them were busy dying
54:53 <Steven> lol, crane style.
55:05 <Avatar> I remember the first time I saw his crane style character
55:09 <Avatar> it was impossible to hit him
55:20 <Steven> yeah
55:26 <Avatar> negate one hit every round against a scenario full of bad guys that can only hit once per round
55:29 <Avatar> I mean cmon
55:39 <Avatar> how is that shit equivalent to dodge
56:13 <Brunius> !feat crane style
56:20 <diebot> Brunius, CRANE STYLE [Combat, Style] Your unarmed fighting techniques blend poise with graceful defense. Prerequisites: Dodge, Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +2 or monk level 1st. Benefit: You take only a –2 penalty on attack rolls for fighting defensively. While using this style and fighting defensively or using the total defense
56:20 <diebot> action, you gain an additional +1 dodge bonus to your Armor Class. 
56:20 <diebot> Benefit:  Source: UC
56:24 <Avatar> and he has a thick french accent so he smiles and gets away with it 
56:33 <Brunius> one with some kinda silly prereqs
56:41 <Avatar> not if you're a monk
56:48 <Steven> the thing is Crane Wing
56:53 <Brunius> !feat crane wing
56:53 <diebot> Brunius, CRANE WING [Combat] You move with the speed and finesse of an avian hunter, your sweeping blocks and graceful motions allowing you to deflect melee attacks with ease.  Prerequisites: Crane Style, Dodge, Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +5 or monk level 5th. Benefit: Once per round while using Crane Style, when you have at least
56:54 <diebot> one hand free and are either fighting defensively or using the total defense action, you can deflect one melee weapon attack that would normally hit you. You expend no action to deflect the attack, but you must be aware of it and not flat-footed. An attack so deflected deals no damage to you.
56:54 <diebot> Benefit:  Source: UC
56:57 <Steven> thats when shit gets rediculous
57:15 <Avatar> I think it requires 2 levels of monk
57:21 <Brunius> Try five
57:34 <Avatar> hmm he wasn't level 5 I'm pretty sure
57:36 <Brunius> or mixing it up with fighter I guess
57:57 <Avatar> you can't get BAB +5 earlier than level 5
58:36 <Avatar> that actually makes more sense
58:50 <Avatar> maybe he misread crane style for crane wing
59:00 <Steven> i know of a way to get it.
59:05 <Avatar> how
59:16 <Avatar> don't keep it to yourself, spit it out
59:56 <Steven> after all the shit i get for munchkin you want me to tell people how to do it?
00:04 <Avatar> yeah
00:21 <Steven> lol....
00:26 <Avatar> nobody here would do it anyway, except maybe me
00:33 <Avatar> but we all know I even mess up good builds
00:38 <Brunius> it's true
02:11 <Avatar> I'm still not sure whether I should've taken retribution or ice tomb on Snickers
02:17 <Avatar> they are both so good
03:08 <Steven> yup
04:26 <Avatar> ended up going with ice tomb but I don't know if it was the right choice
05:12 <Avatar> it actually doesn't fit character concept now that I think about it
05:17 <Avatar> shit
06:39 <Avatar> and I won't get another major hex until 12th :|
07:09 <Avatar> oh well I guess she can take her primary hex at the pinnacle of her career
07:11 <Avatar> that's fitting too
07:43 <Brunius> she'll be right mate
07:54 <Avatar> no this is important
08:11 <Avatar> she has to realise her destiny
08:15 <Avatar> it requires that hex
10:13 <Steven> i've watched this movie before
10:22 <Steven> i didnt realize i had until the dinner scene...
10:22 <Avatar> and 5 minutes ago you were bagging me out for it
10:32 <Avatar> watch witness
10:50 <Avatar> I am super keen to see x-men days of future past
11:01 <Steven> i think imma play some eve.
11:06 <Avatar> forget eve
11:16 <Steven> the decision is made.
11:20 <Brunius> you should play eve Avatar
11:37 <Avatar> I tried once, I do own it
11:43 <Avatar> turns out I don't know how to pilot a spaceship
11:48 <Brunius> how long ago
11:54 <Avatar> long long ago
12:00 <Avatar> in the days of future past
12:09 <Brunius> yeah they've made it a bunch more new player friendly
12:13 <Avatar> oh really
12:17 <Brunius> Yeah
12:18 <Avatar> I might have another go at it then
12:22 <Avatar> not today
12:24 <Avatar> weekend material
12:27 <Brunius> I tried maybe five years a-nope, not that long
12:30 <Brunius> maybe three years ago
12:34 <Avatar> I still have about 10 other games I have yet to play that I've already bought
12:37 <Steven> im gonna dick around on the trial, see if i want to do it again.
12:38 <Brunius> Couldn't get past the tutorial
12:48 <Avatar> yeah that was where I was at
12:57 <Avatar> it was very wtfff
13:00 <Brunius> Then I tried again a couple months ago I tried again
13:06 <Brunius> Just signed up for another three months today
13:13 <Avatar> you're smarter than me though
13:14 <Brunius> That'll put me at six months
13:26 <Brunius> Trust me there are some idiots that play
13:36 <Avatar> okay good
13:38 <Avatar> that is comforting
13:41 <Avatar> I like playing with idiots
13:44 <Brunius> They're the ones we hunt down and kill
13:51 <Steven> heh...
13:55 <Steven> i see what avatar did there!
13:57 <Steven> zing!
14:19 <Brunius> Avatar how do I do a handbrake start
14:25 <Brunius> in a manual
14:31 <Avatar> no idea
14:38 <Avatar> I only have a manual license, I don't know how to drive one
14:39 <Brunius> don't you have a manual license
14:52 <Avatar> I used to know, I was able to do that
04:08 <Yiroep> Woo. All excited now.
04:13 <Yiroep> Finally get to play online here.
08:10 <Yiroep> And it isn't even something I've GMed before! Even better!
25:55 <CWheezy> I have no problem playing ones I have gm'd before
26:01 <CWheezy> it is still pretty fun
26:07 <Yiroep> I've done it before, too.
26:15 <Yiroep> It's just more exciting when I don't know anything about it.
27:32 <Yiroep> Although, I have GM'd Immortal Conundrum and haven't played it.
27:47 <Yiroep> Not sure how I'll feel about that one.
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14:21 <Yuugi> BANONO!
46:25 <Avatar> you say panano
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54:41 <ReaperSage> is that 9:30 am UTc?
54:51 <Avatar> UTC+10
54:57 <ReaperSage> Aest
55:04 <Avatar> yeah
55:15 <ReaperSage> might not be able to make that but ima see
55:16 <Avatar> the site has your local time after you sign in
55:27 <Avatar> is it a bad time or a bad day
55:59 <Avatar> it's not too late to change it if you're quick
56:01 <ReaperSage> depends on the hour for me. if i cant make it then i cant make it :/
56:39 <Avatar> when will you know 
57:00 <ReaperSage> in 10 minutes
57:19 <ReaperSage> if you dont mind me being silent for half
57:46 <ReaperSage> basically the same as the last session you hosted with me in it
57:53 <ReaperSage> only less moving
03:56 <ReaperSage> it should be fine, id only ask to move it up a half hour
04:06 <ReaperSage> but i can deal with 7:30 est
04:27 <ReaperSage> thumbs up from me
06:33 <Avatar> you prefer it half an hour later?
07:41 <Avatar> what do you mean less moving
08:25 <Mekkis> Ah. PaizoconOz has been announced
08:35 <Mekkis> https://warhorn.net/events/paizocon-oz
13:37 <Avatar> gotta run
12:17 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 21st 9.30am (tier 1-5,Avatar) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set your timezone on the site to see your local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au .
12:17 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Sep 17 23:27:06 2013
12:17 <***> Buffer Playback...
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12:20 <Brunius> Trust me there are some idiots that play
12:30 <Avatar> okay good
12:32 <Avatar> that is comforting
12:36 <Avatar> I like playing with idiots
12:38 <Brunius> They're the ones we hunt down and kill
12:45 <Steven> heh...
12:50 <Steven> i see what avatar did there!
12:52 <Steven> zing!
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13:54 <Avatar> but I haven't done it for a good 15 years
13:58 <Sage> hey
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14:02 <Avatar> yo
14:19 <Steven> they have manuals on different vehicle types?
14:26 <Sage> hey 5 peeps on
14:30 <Avatar> I could probably drive a manual now if I learned, the only problem I had was stalling it 
14:45 <Avatar> 5 peeps on what
14:52 <Avatar> there are 16 of us here
14:53 <Brunius> Yeah I stalled once today on the way to the station
14:56 <Brunius> because handbrake starts are hard
15:10 <Sage> 4 actively talking atm
15:19 <Avatar> why would you want to use a handbrake start anyway
15:30 <Steven> alright.... so...
15:32 <Steven> brunius...
15:33 <Brunius> to start on a hill
15:37 <Steven> what should i start as?
15:56 <Mekkis> it's an important skill
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16:09 <Brunius> You need it for the license test, I believe
16:18 <Avatar> no I mean in life
16:19 <Brunius> I can do it maybe 70% of the time
16:22 <Avatar> why is it an important skill
16:27 <Brunius> To start on a hill
16:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, ever driven in Brisbane?
16:34 <Brunius> For example when reversing out of my driveway
16:38 <Avatar> yeah
16:39 <Sage> depends on the vehicle
16:44 <Avatar> not in a manual
16:46 <Mekkis> lots of hills
17:00 <Avatar> you can't start a manual on a hill without the handbrake?
17:05 <Brunius> Well you can
17:06 <Steven> !rand gallente caldari minomatar amarr
17:07 <Brunius> But that's harder
17:14 <Mekkis> you can
17:22 <Mekkis> but it's really bad for your clutch
17:23 <Steven> !rng gallente caldari minomatar amarr
17:23 <diebot> Steven, caldari
17:29 <Brunius> Steven: If you're in Gallente or Minmatar space, I can't help you. I'm kinda at war with them
17:29 <Steven> looks like its caldari!
17:38 <Avatar> what are you doing steven
17:44 <Mekkis> he's spamming
17:46 <Steven> picking what race i am on eve
17:56 <mib_jsy7r7> I have no idea how you can tell who is active from mibbit sage
18:05 <mib_jsy7r7> oh they're bolded
18:12 <Brunius> Yeah it's just who's talked
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18:31 <Avatar> oh I thought they were character names
18:53 <Steven> why are you at war with minmatar? they are so lovely with their junk heap ships.
19:05 <Brunius> Amarr FW
19:19 <Brunius> Means I can shoot a bunch of people in the nearby lowsec with no standing loss
20:16 <Sage> hm
21:35 <Steven> its cool man i went with caldari
23:54 <Steven> kinda wanna make my dude look like george takai
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31:37 <Steven> done!
33:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how would carnivalist and bard stack for bardic performance rounds/affective level?
35:18 <Avatar> what book is carnivalist in
35:59 <Sage> no clue
37:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> animal archive
38:08 <Steven> wow.... this beginning ship way cooler than gallente
38:13 <Brunius> Ibis?
38:23 <Brunius> You in Kisogo?
39:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> meh, I played eve back when it was fun
39:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> P.S. it was never really that fun...
39:43 <Brunius> Yes, because fun can be empirically measured.
40:10 <Sage> anything going on this morning?
40:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> exactly brunius
40:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> exactly
40:37 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: you going to unicon?
40:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup, probs the whole bender package
40:51 <Avatar> schedule is up: https://warhorn.net/events/melbourne-pfs/schedule/2013/10
40:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haven't paid yet, but is there a required time for it?
41:10 <Brunius> You generally pay at the event
41:16 <Brunius> Is it still at MHS?
41:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
41:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there's also sheepcon a month after, is that at MHS?
41:56 <Avatar> dunno yet
41:56 <Brunius> never heard of sheepcon
42:00 <Steven> yup in an ibis.
42:03 <Avatar> they're already late organising this one let alone the next one
42:09 <Avatar> Brunius: sheepcon is one day in november
42:15 <Sage> hm
42:31 <Avatar> november 17th if I recall 
42:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, I had no idea that was your last name avatar
42:42 <Avatar> yeah it's a beauty isn't it
42:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's up there
43:01 <Avatar> don't you have me on facebook
43:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nope
43:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I didn't think we did the whole add peeps on facebook thing here
43:33 <Avatar> add me unless you have privacy insecurities
43:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> either that or I left before then
43:47 <Avatar> just do it
43:58 <Avatar> you can block me if I become too much later
43:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, you better not kill Ava on friday
44:15 <Avatar> it's actually a really easy scenario
44:22 <Avatar> I used to say play up even if you're 1-2
44:32 <Avatar> but now you don't even get that option
44:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea, but ava died last scenario I played with her
44:39 <Sage> ah
45:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so I've got no magical items besides a shining wayfinder and a CLW wand
45:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I just hit 4
45:10 <Avatar> aren't you a life oracle
45:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yes
45:52 <Avatar> what scenario did you die in
46:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> empyreal enlightenment
46:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> with rulesyMcStrictnstuff
46:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> as GM
46:34 <Avatar> who is that
46:37 <Brunius> was it Ashley
46:37 <Avatar> lol
46:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think so
46:40 <Sage> that reminds me i need to bug spider
46:49 <Sage> i nearly died in that last one
46:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think ashley
46:57 <Avatar> bald with glasses
47:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> basically, we had a really suboptimal group comp
47:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no not bald, had like dreds, or dred-like hair
47:23 <Avatar> that's ryan
47:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea ryan, that sounds more correct
47:34 <Brunius> Ryan is cray
47:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> tis
47:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> basically, we were unprepared, and had shitty group comp
47:57 <Avatar> yeah they're both scary to play under because of their rules lawyering
48:15 <Brunius> Steven: Spartan?
48:16 <Avatar> I think ryan used to be better but got jaded
48:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> archer 1, 2 sorcs 1, rogue/witch 3, life oracle (me) 3
48:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so we failed hard
48:43 <Brunius> all ranged
48:48 <CWheezy> lol rogue witch
48:48 <Brunius> and a ruge
48:50 <Avatar> you were tanking
48:53 <Brunius> rogue rather
48:56 <CWheezy> that sounds awful
48:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I was fail tanking
49:08 <CWheezy> hey lets give up my hex progression and spell progression for
49:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I only have chainshirt and buckler
49:12 <CWheezy> ???
49:17 <Avatar> sneak attack
49:25 <Brunius> woah such a good tradeoff
49:26 <CWheezy> how are you going to hit
49:31 <CWheezy> with your 1 bab
49:36 <Avatar> weapon finesse
49:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I actually play properly and do the whole "needing to cast with open hand" shtick
49:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I believe he's going into trickster
49:53 <CWheezy> you can have a light shield
50:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nope, only buckler
50:10 <CWheezy> uhhh
50:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unless it's changed since I last looked at it
50:39 <CWheezy> You strap a shield to your forearm and grip it with your hand. A light shield's weight lets you carry other items in that hand, although you cannot use weapons with it.
50:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I also use a longspear, so I need the buckler anyway
50:46 <CWheezy> does that not matter
51:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> touch spells count as weapons in that regard
51:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> to some extent
51:08 <CWheezy> so clerics can carry holy symbols
51:14 <CWheezy> in that hand
51:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm no cleric, I don't use a holy symbol
51:29 <Sage> hm
51:34 <CWheezy> just as a note though
51:44 <Avatar> touch spells count as weapons? no
51:47 <CWheezy> if you can hold an item there, you can cast a spell
51:50 <Avatar> surely not
51:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> they have similar restrictions avatar
52:02 <Avatar> source
52:45 <CWheezy> touch attacks from spells are actually pretty weird
52:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> somatic requires a free hand
53:00 <Avatar> I have to admit I have found some rules out lately that I was pretty ironclad sure about that are actually wrong
53:01 <CWheezy> because you get them for free
53:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> being able to hold something, yet not attack, doesn't mean it's a free hand
53:16 <CWheezy> so you can hold an item
53:20 <CWheezy> like a potion
53:21 <CWheezy> and drink it
53:28 <CWheezy> BUT you can't have the hand open and cast with it
53:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> who said you could drink a potion from a shield hand?
53:41 <CWheezy> it isn't a weapon
53:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you can hold an item, nothing about use item
53:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> holding != using
54:01 <CWheezy> ok you can hold it and not use it (lol?)
54:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yes
54:12 <CWheezy> anyway I guess you can't have your hand open to cast
54:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> try and picture a shield strapped to your arm, and trying to qualf a potion with said arm
54:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you'll hit yourself in the head with the shield, and the potion won't reach the mouth
54:39 <Avatar> doable
54:46 <CWheezy> try and picture someone in a robe having 6 images of himself
54:50 <CWheezy> and flying in the air
54:54 <CWheezy> and shooting fireballs from his hands
55:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> with magic I can sure
55:12 <Avatar> I'm struggling to work out how you couldn't drink from a vial if a shield is strapped to your arm
55:20 <CWheezy> great so we have established that the game does not work on real life
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55:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but you're not magically holding the potion, nor are you magically qualfing the drink
55:24 <spider21b> hi
55:27 <Avatar> I would have to be trying to make the shield hit my face 
55:32 <Avatar> and it's awkward
55:36 <CWheezy> and trying to compare it to such is A totally pointless and B not part of the rules at all
55:45 <Avatar> of course you're not magically holding it, you're just holding it
55:52 <Sage> hey spider
55:57 <CWheezy> ok imagine a guy firing a musket 6 times in a round
56:08 <Avatar> that I can imagine
56:10 <CWheezy> like the old school musket, the once per minute ones
56:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> wheezy, having to compare 2 completely different situations to justify one does not make for a good time
56:23 <Brunius> I believe the fastest musketmen did like 10 a minute
56:33 <Sage> any luck with the scenario sheets spider21b ?
56:33 <Brunius> That's one a round, I believe
56:44 <Avatar> well this is high fantasy
56:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius, a round is 6 seconds
56:47 <Avatar> lend a little imagination
56:50 <CWheezy> Spaceshot_tm2_: trying to use reality to justify a game mechanic is literally pointless
56:54 <CWheezy> and helps nothing
57:02 <Brunius> Spaceshot_tm2_, 60/10 = 6
57:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sorry brunius, I thought you said "that's one round", not once a round
57:39 <CWheezy> there is nothing in reality for how armor works at all
58:00 <CWheezy> it is pretty nonsense fighters can even move 20 feet in full plate, let alone run
58:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the thing about reality and logic, is that if there isn't a rule that says you CAN explicitly do something
58:11 <CWheezy> no one complains about that though
58:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> then the GM can say you can't if it logically or realistically doesn't make sense
58:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and you can't do anything about it but bitch and live with it
58:44 <CWheezy> well my logic is easy
58:50 <CWheezy> I can hold items with a light shield, not weapons
58:51 <Mekkis> Hey
58:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you're not the GM though
59:01 <Mekkis> anyone got the faction missions and chronicle sheets for Silent Tide?
59:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm dealing with one munchkin here mekkis, I don't need another XD
59:08 <CWheezy> if I can hold items, I can probably free up the hand to cast
59:16 <Brunius> I've got a chronicle sheet somewhere
59:18 <Mekkis> I need them about nowish.
59:23 <CWheezy> oh ok you are not interested in discussion
59:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I didn't say you couldn't cast wheezy
59:26 * Steven loves watching thigns like this.
59:26 <Mekkis> Brunius, do you have the scenario?
59:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm saying you can't touch spells
59:31 <Brunius> Nope
59:43 <CWheezy> you said you needed a hand free for somatic
59:48 <Sage> i got a question about the faction missions
59:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> without either giving up the shield benifit, or just not being able to successfully
00:01 <CWheezy> I dunno why you couldn't touch
00:16 <CWheezy> you can with two handed weapons, free action let go, free action re hold
00:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because how can you touch someone, and deflect attack with the same hand in 6 seconds?
00:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and because there are no explicit rules stating you CAN do so
00:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's up to GM interpretation
00:56 <CWheezy> uh isn't that how crane wing works
00:58 <CWheezy> the style
01:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and the GM can side with game mechanics in general and decide you can for compliance to the general norm, or side with logic
01:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's their call
01:12 <CWheezy> you deflect attacks with your free hand
01:19 <CWheezy> if you had a spell you could do both
01:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> again, only if such instance had rules stipulating that you explicitly can
01:55 <CWheezy> if your overall argument is that 'The rules are not written clearly" you should state that earlier
01:58 <CWheezy> so I can just not say anything lol
02:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the thing about rules, is that you don't find ones that don't exist
02:06 <CWheezy> because that is just obvious
02:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you use what is there, and if it's not exactly there, it's up to GM decision, where each are different
02:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because so far, I've got 3 GMs for no for my 4 armed dual-wielding 2-handed weapons alch
03:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and 2 that will allow it (and one actually wants to use that idea)
03:08 <CWheezy> oh also "Dealing with a munchkin" you can apologize for that any time now
03:15 <CWheezy> that is pretty offensive imo
03:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's all up to GM speculation if it's not explicitly allowed to do
03:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hahahaha
03:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you're funny
03:45 <CWheezy> do you feel that labelling someone is good for discussion?
03:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> do you try to bend the rules in such a way that you get additional optimisation that not every will agree is valid?
04:08 <Steven> hey wheezy, gotta get over it man, im called a munchkin all the time.  
04:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I was more making it a snip at mekkis than anything else
04:31 <CWheezy> well instead of taking it, I will call it out for what it is
04:38 <Sage> hm
04:46 <CWheezy> labelling someone is pretty bad, because it hinders discussion
05:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> only if the person who is labled gives a fuck about said label
05:26 <CWheezy> incorrect, it is the person doing the labelling that is affected
05:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I know I sure don't give 2 fucks about being labled (looks right to me, but could be labelled if all I know)
05:37 <CWheezy> instead of dealing with the person as a whole
05:41 <CWheezy> you are reducing them to one facet
05:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I dunno, I think calling you a munchkin didn't effect me one bit
06:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you're a person on the internet, who I barely even know, and we're on a specific subset of the internet, for one general thing
06:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I gave you a label specific to that one general thing
06:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think you were already reduced to a facet, and I just gave you a title within such facet
06:40 <Brunius> Man I love the look of Caldari space
06:41 <CWheezy> hmmm, that is a lot of rationalization for poor behaviour
06:49 <Steven> Yeah its pretty cool lookin
06:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius: does it look better than it did back in wee old days?
06:57 <CWheezy> ok well I mean, all I can ask is that you improve or change
07:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
07:05 <CWheezy> if you refuse, that is that
07:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> bigger/better men than you have tried
07:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and failed
07:13 <Brunius> Better than Amarr
07:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ask ballig/mekkis/brunius/avatar
07:26 <Avatar> ask me what
07:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius: that's not hard
07:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> XD
08:02 <Avatar> Mekkis: yeah I do
08:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar: to agree that others have 'asked' me to improve or change, and failed
08:16 <Avatar> are you serious
08:24 <Sage> nice to see so many people on
08:31 <Avatar> how do you get into this line of conversation so uniformly every time spaceshot
08:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because people react to things that I do in ways that I did not intend
08:53 <Brunius> Because people are always wrong on the internet
09:02 <CWheezy> oh, other people have pointed this out before?
09:16 <CWheezy> hmmmm, that is something else funny
09:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I say something that I believe is a simple thing and shouldn't be exploded about, and yet others believe it to deserve an exposay
09:33 <Avatar> I don't get how you provoke it
09:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't get how it's provoking
10:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> when I do happen to provoke people, I don't intend to do it, and usually I don't even notice or realise I've done it
10:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> a subset of people I know realise this and just don't give a fuck about the provocative action and just slide it under the table
11:12 <Avatar> I dunno 
11:14 <Avatar> there's always one
11:28 <Avatar> Mekkis: do you still need the silent tide stuff
15:20 <Sage> how do you handle the faction missions?
15:40 <Avatar> did you see the faction missions from last game
15:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> pre season 5, they're just fluff/shits and giggles
16:06 <Sage> from spiders i did
16:17 <Avatar> I linked them to you in my game
16:46 <Avatar> the idea was you're meant to complete it and when you do the task, you get 1 prestige point
16:51 <Avatar> and completing the main mission gives you 1 more
16:56 <Sage> i must have been distracted
17:05 <Avatar> that's since been scrapped and you just get 2 for finishing the whole thing now
17:12 <Avatar> unless there is an actual season faction mission in the scenario
17:20 <Avatar> for season 5 onwards
17:28 <Avatar> the faction goals are in the PFS guide
17:47 <Avatar> I think the only way to find out what scenarios actively have the missions is to check the paizo blog post where they talked about it
17:59 <Avatar> which stupidly, I don't know where to find
18:01 <Sage> ah gotcha
18:19 <Avatar> I'm not sure if there's some indication in the scenario that your faction mission is coming up in season 5, because I haven't played or GM'd a season 5 game yet
20:12 <Avatar> the price of the new goblin shirt went up while it was sitting in my cart
20:24 <Sage> ouch
21:31 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lf4z&page=1?The-Year-of-the-Demon-Begins
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> does Bard(Detective) 1/Rogue(Investigator, Carnivalist) 2/Ranger(Trapper, Warden) 2/Pathfinder Cronicler 1/Pathfinder Field Agent 1/Sleepless Detective 1/Pathfinder Delver 1 at level 9 look?
22:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> look bad*?
22:25 <Steven> yes.
22:27 <Avatar> no
22:47 <Steven> you need to think of another way to describe your character
22:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm a detective
23:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's the description
23:06 <Steven> I_find_stuff.char
23:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> those are just my class levls
23:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> levels*
23:44 <Steven> i have a character thats pretty close... its got 3 classes.
23:52 <Avatar> I dig stuff up
23:54 <Avatar> maybe we can work together
23:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how is that anywhere near close?
24:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha, you have an archeologist?
24:13 <Steven> because it finds stuff.
24:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh
24:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm still not 100% on the original 5 levels, like what amount of those 3 classes, but that's about it
25:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> basically, I want to be a detective who is also the jack of all shit
25:36 <Steven> so never created a miner character on eve.  think imma do that.
25:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there's also nothing wrong with breaking scenarios with diplomacy, survival and sense motive
26:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> steven: depends if you want to go AFK or not XD
26:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know they made it a bit less AFKy, but it's still a bit
26:39 <Brunius> oh my god
26:41 <Brunius> don't
26:53 <Brunius> You won't be able to get above the frigate level mining without a full sub anyway
26:56 <Steven> oh i so plan on going afk.
27:12 <Steven> im not even looking at the game right now.
27:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mining is great to do whilst IRC roleplaying
27:47 <Avatar> yeah I have an archaeologist, 8th level
27:50 <Steven> exactly me plan sir!
27:55 <Avatar> who I just had to spend a 27 prestige rebuild on
28:07 <Avatar> you know that cheap gold cost that you have to pay for rebuilds
28:16 <Avatar> at level 8, with a lot of changes, that's surprisingly expensive
28:29 <Brunius> I didn't think it was cheap
28:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> was that your lore warden/archeologist?
28:37 <Avatar> when you look at it in terms of changing, say, a feat, at level 2, it's like 60gp
28:45 <Avatar> with my rebuild, it was about 2100gp
28:53 <Avatar> yeah
28:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's still petty change for a level 8 though
28:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> when you think about it
29:08 <Avatar> I had to buy different equipment to suit the new build
29:17 <Avatar> and sell off half of my other stuff, so half of that is gone
29:34 <Avatar> the net worth has stung
29:49 <Steven> you could chalk it up to a learning experience
29:49 <Brunius> So...you're gonna uptier some more?
29:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> are the modules worth doing at unicon?
30:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> can't uptier anymore
30:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well selectively
30:40 <Avatar> you can't choose to uptier anymore
31:03 <Avatar> even if your APL is high, you still get less gold than the upper tier does
31:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup, but downtiering is actually ok now
31:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's no longer complete shit
32:12 <Avatar> the whole thing is better than before
32:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> true
32:36 <Avatar> I'm glad they solved the 5-party number of death problem
32:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, I'm tempted to play the Fangwood Keep on saturday, except there is currently 2 players, one is rogue 5, another is ninja 4
32:44 <Avatar> to a reasonable extent
32:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that'll go well
32:51 <Avatar> haha
32:55 <Avatar> they'll sneak well
33:10 <Avatar> it's kind of a perfect combo
33:25 <Avatar> if there's one person you want to sneak with, it's someone else who can sneak
33:29 <Avatar> add in some teamwork feats
35:25 <Steven> yeah
35:48 <Steven> i has a stealth inquisitor!
35:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea, but as long as there is a front line fighter I don't mind
36:23 <Steven> everyone has teamwork feats! lol
39:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> as long as it's a valid party, I'm not fussed being the healbot
40:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, the person who put down as the ninja for the 9am-11pm module, also put down for one of the 4pm-10pm games XD
40:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> good going so foar
40:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> far*
41:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why don't you 2 join in the fangwood keep if you can?
41:55 <Sage> hm?
42:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> melbourne con coming up
43:47 <Sage> one thats being held in person?
43:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
50:14 <Steven> cargo hold full of minerals... yum yum
50:53 <Brunius> Likely better off selling the ores than processing
51:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> usually
51:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unless you've got both refining and improved refining and the mineral refining
51:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which I highly doubt
51:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, brunius are you gonna play the whole weekend or just the special?
58:37 <Steven> just got myself the venture...
02:25 <Steven> 5k ore hold.  time to afk while enjoying a movie.
02:35 <Avatar> I'm likely running a game in the saturday morning one
02:50 <Steven> spaceshot... name a movie... one that doesnt involve the catholic church.
03:06 <Avatar> and I want to play as many new scenarios from season 5 as I can anyway, I'm running out of options to GM except for the games I can't remember
03:29 <Avatar> not to mention that I've discovered that you really should play in every 7-11 you possibly can because they run so damn rarely
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05:17 <Steven> they certainly do.
05:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> crocadille (can't spell that word for shit) dundee
06:14 <Avatar> crocodile
06:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> close
07:13 <Sage> hm
07:28 <Steven> ship 1/5 of the way full of ore.
07:44 <Avatar> did any of you ever play UO
07:50 <Brunius> You tried to get me to
07:52 <Steven> yups
07:53 <Brunius> I didn't understand it
07:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you tried to drag us in
08:01 <Avatar> what didn't you understand
08:03 <Brunius> I think I voted for you and/or Ballig as mayor
08:07 <Avatar> haha!
08:10 <Avatar> yeah that was sweet
08:13 <Brunius> What happened with that
08:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> though I have been playing DDO with a friend for about 4 months now
08:14 <Avatar> we didn't win
08:16 <Brunius> Lame
08:23 <Avatar> you've been playing DDO for 4 months and you didn't tell us
08:34 <Brunius> Pretty sure he told us
08:38 <Avatar> I wasn't told
08:41 <Brunius> Man I wonder what my account deets are
08:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> pretty sure it was on steam until recently
08:48 <Avatar> I remember my account deets
08:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> level 8 atm
08:56 <Avatar> I have a level 8 guy
08:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> same server I believe
09:07 <Brunius> I've got my level 6 or 7 cleric/rogue multiclass
09:11 <Brunius> Thanks for that Avatar
09:16 <Avatar> np
09:22 <Avatar> sound burst ftw
10:13 <Steven> i killed an astroid.
10:21 <Brunius> It happens.
10:29 <Brunius> Have belt rats come to fuck you up yet
10:37 <Steven> nope
10:39 <Steven> not yet.
10:45 <Brunius> What system status?
10:47 <Steven> but thanks for jinxing me you ass
10:49 <Brunius> uh
10:51 <Brunius> Security status?
11:34 <Steven> no seriously... you said it and they jumped in.
11:34 <Brunius> I think they don't spawn in 0.9 and 1.0
11:37 <Brunius> ha
12:06 <Steven> im in .7
14:30 <Steven> airkio system
15:27 <Brunius> did someone say gank fleet
16:00 <Steven> sure did!
16:15 <Steven> now you gotta ask yourself... did i tell you the right system?
17:22 <Brunius> I'm probably like 20 jumps from it anyway
18:12 <Brunius> huh, only 10
19:26 <Brunius> That's 0.9 though
19:53 <Steven> kukuku
20:02 <Brunius> Think I'm gonna jump into my kitey frig and roam losec
21:43 <Steven> i think imma continue watching movies and making money
24:50 <Brunius> You'll probably have more money than me soon
25:41 <Steven> already up to .5mil isk
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26:45 <Brunius> I was getting about 1mil/cargohold in my Venture
26:49 <Brunius> mining scordite, I think
28:04 <Steven> no scordite in these fields right now... methinks its too late at night to find a good field
28:24 <Brunius> That close to Jita, yeah
28:37 <Brunius> Fields should reset in about half an hour though
29:53 <Bloodlust> howdy
30:32 <Steven> yeah i think bout that long.
32:19 <Steven> figure i should get right around 700k per load from my venture
48:30 <Steven> stupid rat... it jammed me
48:51 <Steven> just as my mining cycle was about to finish.
52:33 <Steven> well i was right, 700k from a full load.
54:34 <spider21b> in 3.5 Armored Mage (CM, p 32): lose medium and heavy armor, can pick an arcane class and cast in light armor, but only spells level equal to your fighter level +1. does that mean its the level of the soc or just not really?
59:44 <Steven> well... i got like half an hour.
00:13 <Steven> i put a bunch of 10 minute skills into the skill thing.
00:38 <Steven> basically want to have a drone so i can kill those bastard rats when they show up
01:20 <Brunius> Are you gonna have the tank to do it?
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02:04 <Steven> i just need one drone to kill the annoying rat that occasionally pops up.
02:14 <Steven> not going heavy into it.
02:28 <Brunius> Are you gonna have the tank to do it
02:54 <Brunius> Admittedly I haven't flown mining frigs since I learned to fit but I could never do enough damage to them and survive
03:30 <Steven> yeah, the venture actually has decent shield with a recharger going.
03:40 <Steven> i mean i wouldnt take it into low sec, but shouldnt be a problem in .7
03:51 <Brunius> Battle venture!
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29:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius, why no fangwood keep with me bro?
29:37 <Brunius> because I hate you
29:39 <Brunius> remember
29:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> T_T
29:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but... but...
30:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> have you played fangwood keep?
31:44 <Brunius> don't think so
31:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> then I'd suggest playing it
32:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> modules are rarer to find and play than scenarios, especially latest season
32:15 <Avatar> why are you so keen on fangwood keep
32:28 <Avatar> fair point
32:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's why
33:02 <Avatar> oh is that why
33:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I doubt I'll ever play a module again, or at least not for a long time
33:08 <Brunius> I'd have to have a character I want to play in 3-5
33:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and it's 4-5, which means prime Ava range
33:12 <Avatar> have you played we be goblins
33:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> is we be goblins actually a module? or is just a module like scenario?
33:42 <Avatar> it's a module
33:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 3 scenario's worth?
33:56 <Brunius> It's a scenario like module
34:14 <Avatar> yeah not 3 scenarios worth
34:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> then not really a module
34:20 <Avatar> you get 1 exp 1 prestige
34:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> just sayin
34:26 <Avatar> it's a short module
34:36 <Avatar> you need to play we be goblins man
34:42 <Avatar> if you've never played it you need to experience it
34:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea I know that
34:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I'm just sayin about the module
34:54 <Avatar> I am itching a bit to play we be goblins too
35:23 <Brunius> You're always itching to play WBG though
35:44 <Avatar> not we be goblins
35:46 <Avatar> we be goblins too
35:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd be tempted, would make my pyromancer actually have burning spells XD (aka putting my flame oracle to level 2)
35:51 <Avatar> the sequel
36:10 <Avatar> it'd be a good one for mekkis to run
36:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but yea, you're playing your cleric on the 1-5, why not the cleric on the module?
36:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> 9am-11pm of goodness
36:50 <Brunius> Because Derau is a pretty shit build
37:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> derau still?
37:08 <Brunius> Yeah
38:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> do you have any other 4-5?
38:12 <Brunius> Nope
38:18 <Brunius> 1,5,6(Kaleb),9
38:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ah
39:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I've only got 1,1,1,4
39:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so I'm not much better
39:42 <Brunius> One of my ones is 1.2 so I think I'll rebuild them
40:28 <Brunius> Maybe to a wizard
40:47 <Brunius> Yeah, I think I'll make a wizard
40:50 <Brunius> I need a spellcaster
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42:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmm
42:25 <Bloodlust> howdy again
42:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so that's a no to the fangwood keep?
42:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how about you avatar?
42:53 <Avatar> hi bloodlust
43:04 <Avatar> I'm GMing on saturday morning, I told you man
43:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> oh I didn't see that on the site
43:31 <Avatar> green market or fabric of reality
43:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> neither are on warhorn
43:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so I didn't see
43:51 <Avatar> not yet, waiting to see signups
44:06 <Avatar> even if I'm not GMing, I'll be aiming for either season 5 scenarios or 7-11s
44:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> bah
44:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> HUMBUG
44:18 <Avatar> do you want to GM a season 5 or a 7-11
44:40 <Steven> gm a seaon 5 thats a 7-11!
44:54 <Avatar> Bloodlust: what character advice do you need
45:03 <Bloodlust> Advancing my Samurai
45:15 <Bloodlust> Inquisitor 3 / Samurai 6
45:22 <Bloodlust> I have enough to hit next level now
45:28 <Avatar> where's your sheet
45:43 <Steven> gotta see that paper son!
45:47 <Bloodlust> I'll send it to you if you like?
45:56 <Avatar> upload it to google drive or dropbox or something
46:04 <Avatar> or to the site if it's a text file
46:20 <Bloodlust> pdf
48:02 <Bloodlust> don't have drop box
48:07 <Bloodlust> or google drive
48:29 <Steven> docs.google.com
49:54 <Bloodlust> https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8TatV5aSrVwZXBUQks5UFRzUjQ/edit?usp=sharing
50:17 <Steven> change your access privilages to anyone with the link
50:25 <Bloodlust> done
50:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I haven't GMed pfs yet, so I'd probably not want to do my first GMing at a con
51:21 <Bloodlust> So, what should I level him as?
51:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mammoth rider if you can
51:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> just cause, huge mount
51:51 <Avatar> did you get samurai to 6 and then decide to multiclass to inquisitor?
51:57 <Bloodlust> I love that one but it makes your mount ay too big
52:09 <Avatar> yeah huge mount is worse, not better
52:12 <Bloodlust> samurai 2 - inquisitor 3 - samurai 6
52:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but still, mammoth rider
52:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or the shitty teamwork PrC just cause lols
52:39 <Avatar> you won't think your mount is that great when it has to squeeze absolutely everywhere it goes
53:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it won't have to squeeze, it'll break wherever it has to go
53:06 <Avatar> I don't know samurai or inquisitor that well
53:16 <Bloodlust> Riding a HUGE T-Rex is way sexy though ;)
53:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> "in an alleyway?" *smashes both buildings* "there we go"
53:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> samurai is jap cav
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53:41 <Bloodlust> yup
53:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and inquisitor is kinda weird
53:53 <Avatar> have the samurai abilities been handy
54:00 <Avatar> seems you just get more of the same
54:29 <Bloodlust> By taking inquisitor 3 and being in the Order of the Seal - anyone I challenge, I get to do a free bullrush or trip that doesn't provoke - and I can roll that twice and pick the best
54:45 <Bloodlust> every round
54:47 <Steven> tell me....
54:58 <Steven> did you make the horrible mistake of taking teamwork feats on your animal companion?
55:04 <Bloodlust> no
55:06 <Bloodlust> no need
55:18 <Bloodlust> inquisitor 3 gets around that
55:40 <Bloodlust> Samurai abilities are great
55:50 <Avatar> do you want another order
56:15 <Avatar> er, another order ability
56:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> am I the only one who loves PrC's in pathfinder?
56:40 <Bloodlust> charge in with lance *poke* (free action draw large adamantine keen katana) run over beastie and have him knocked prone, get aoo due to greater overrun - keep on moving
56:48 <Avatar> what bok is order of the seal in
57:02 <Avatar> book*
57:02 <Bloodlust> none of it provokes, I can do a 90 degree turn and charge through allies
57:15 <Bloodlust> apg I think
57:22 <Bloodlust> it's a cav order
57:26 <Steven> to be more correct none of it provokes from you vs the target of your charge.
57:27 <Avatar> oh
57:32 <Bloodlust> samurai can take cav orders and vice versa
57:43 <Bloodlust> steven: correct
58:03 <Yiroep> Order of the Seal is UC.
58:09 <Avatar> the 8th level order ability is shit
58:13 <Bloodlust> true
58:25 <Bloodlust> samurai past level 6 = not so sexy
58:26 <Steven> now theres a really cool item you need to buy bloodlust.
58:30 <Bloodlust> hence my dillema
58:39 <Bloodlust> what's that?
58:57 <Steven> Its called a horsemasters saddle.
59:32 <Steven> your mount benefits from all the teamwork feats you have so long as they are activated.
59:42 <Avatar> inquisitor 4 opens up 2nd level inquisitor spells
59:55 <Steven> oh look at that you are on a mount... like always.
00:02 <Avatar> if you want more feats, you could always just bang up on fighter
00:07 <Steven> and you're an inquisitor...
00:26 <Bloodlust> I only have tandem trip
01:11 <Steven> yes... you can take another teamwork feat... like... i dunno.
01:52 <Steven> coordinated menuvers
02:02 <Avatar> what are the inquisitor spells like in general
02:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> clerical, but not as cool
02:33 <Avatar> no stand-outs?
02:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> maybe a couple, haven't looked recently
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02:53 <Avatar> you get protection from whatever, communal
03:05 <Avatar> that's kind of amazing
03:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> kinda
03:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> especially in PFS XD
03:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> where everything is practically evil
03:23 <Avatar> effortless armor, armor you wear no longer slows your speed
03:29 <Avatar> although that might not matter for him on a mount
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03:44 <Yiroep> Inquisitor is a great class. They can do so much, you just gotta remember everything they can do. :p
03:50 <Bloodlust> dropped out
03:59 <Avatar> blistering invective would be good if the intimiate was better
04:05 <Bloodlust> last post I made was how I only had tandem trip
04:10 <Avatar> Bloodlust: some good 2nd level inquisitor spells here
04:14 <Avatar> in UC
04:22 <Steven> or if you want to get real janky... Pack Attack...
04:32 <Bloodlust> what did I miss?
04:39 <Steven> i saved my comment till you got back
04:41 <Yiroep> I have a friend who has a inquisitor/hellknight who bought a wand of blistering invective and took a bunch of feats for intimidate. It actually works really well.
04:59 <Avatar> yeah but he has 3 in intimidate
05:10 <Bloodlust> not so sexy :(
05:25 <Bloodlust> as I was saying, going past level 6 for samurai is not so good
05:39 <Bloodlust> anyone here played any of the high level games like eyes of the ten, etc?
05:45 <Yiroep> Yes.
05:46 <Bloodlust> I'm guessing it's all indoors?
05:48 <Avatar> surmount infliction is good, from UM - suppresses a condition
06:08 <Yiroep> Uh...it's like normal PFS in that regard. I'll just say that. :p
06:10 <Bloodlust> Honestly Mammoth lord is just sexy as hell ol
06:12 <Avatar> I don't know how effective pain spells are or if they even work in PFS
06:13 <Yiroep> Expect about the same ratio.
06:30 <Avatar> Bloodlust: 2nd level inquisitor spells include protection from whatever, communal
06:39 <Bloodlust> wis 11
06:49 <Bloodlust> would need a stat boost item just to cast
06:51 <Avatar> fuck man
06:51 <Bloodlust> or wand
07:07 <Avatar> you probably need a headband anyway
07:08 <Bloodlust> I only planned on taking 3 levels of inquistor
07:16 <Avatar> well screw it, go fighter then
07:19 <Yiroep> If you wanna play a good charging module, Curse of the Riven Sky (levels 9-11) is one of the best for it.
07:21 <Avatar> you look a bit feat starved
07:28 <Avatar> pick up toughness
07:41 <Avatar> toughness and belts of con have saved my life more than once
07:42 <Bloodlust> mounted combat is feat intensive
07:49 <Avatar> go fighter all the way to 12
08:01 <Bloodlust> 3 levels
08:14 <Avatar> that's at least 3 feats
08:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> toughness is questionable
08:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> depends if you're prone to doing things stupid
08:31 <Bloodlust> was tempted by a dip in monk
08:38 <Bloodlust> crane wing, deflect arrows etc
08:41 <Avatar> it is not questionable and you will use those hp and thank them later
08:51 <Avatar> at high levels, an extra 10hp is nothing to sneeze at
09:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> true
09:06 <Bloodlust> that's why I have the life keeping shawl
09:17 <Bloodlust> plus my domain power
09:20 <Bloodlust> and being a samurai
09:29 <Avatar> when fireballs and other high powered shit are doing ridiculous amounts of damage, and you're on 3hp instead of -7hp
09:35 <Bloodlust> = three small bumps to help when I hit negs
09:35 <Avatar> or -7hp instead of -20hp
09:42 <Avatar> you'll be very thankful for toughness
09:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea but my life oracle has fire res 10
09:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so I'm good
10:01 <Avatar> lightning bolt then
10:04 <Yiroep> Cone of cold. :p
10:07 <Bloodlust> or maybe a class with evasion?
10:11 <Yiroep> Horrid wilting.
10:15 <Bloodlust> my bloody mount has it and I don't
10:20 <Avatar> don't take rogue
10:25 <Yiroep> Monk!
10:33 <Yiroep> Master of many styles!
10:55 <Avatar> or maneuver master
11:11 <Avatar> can you benefit from more combat maneuvers
11:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I dodged the lightning bolt so I'm good
11:18 <Bloodlust> I was thinking many styles to get the crane wing
11:34 <Avatar> you didn't dodge it, you got fried by it because the DC was too goddamn high
11:44 <Bloodlust> can't use monk evasion wearing heavy armour though
11:58 <Yiroep> How's your reflex save? If it's not that good, evasion is not worth it.
11:58 <Avatar> I don't think you can use any evasion wearing heavy armor
12:11 <Avatar> er, yes it would be
12:16 <Avatar> half damage is still half of full damage
12:31 <Bloodlust> bugger
12:33 <Avatar> on a fireball doing 70 damage, that's a 35hp saving
12:33 <Yiroep> If your reflex save is +2, what's the chances it'll work, though?
12:37 <Bloodlust> even rogue is light or none
12:41 <Yiroep> Yeah but it's all a numbers game.
12:45 <Avatar> evasion works even if you fail
12:50 <Yiroep> No it doesn't.
12:53 <Yiroep> That's improved evasion.
12:59 <Avatar> oh crap
13:13 <Steven> silly avatar, getting his abilities mixed up.
13:29 <Avatar> I had better remember that, I picked up evasion
13:48 <Avatar> Steven: it's written on my character sheet that you looked at, you didn't notice it
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14:02 <Yiroep> Yeah, improved evasion is amazing for anyone if it's worth getting. But it's so hard to get...
14:05 <Bloodlust> So, any suggestions for next level?
14:13 <Avatar> I'd go fighter
14:27 <Steven> i saw evasion and moved on.  I dont look at abilities i already know what they do.
14:28 <Bloodlust> fighter is kinda boring and apart from feats you won't get much
14:48 <Yiroep> Uh.
14:54 <Avatar> the feats are what you need man
14:56 <Yiroep> Getting feats is good for a martial character.
15:15 <Steven> i suggest also getting more levels in inquisitor.
15:24 <Avatar> he has an 11 wis
15:29 <Bloodlust> next feat is Spirited Charge (double damage on a charge - triple with a lance)
15:32 <Yiroep> Especially the first 2 levels of fighter, where each level gives a feat.
15:36 <Yiroep> Do you have a headband?
15:37 <Steven> that second judgement and then bane is pretty freakin awesome.
16:15 <Avatar> that's not a bad point if you don't want to go down the more-feats path
16:23 <Avatar> get yourself the headband of wis and go inq
16:59 <Bloodlust> hmm
17:37 <Bloodlust> bane doesn't last very long
18:32 <Yiroep> I've seen bane put to good use, though. That extra damage is really nice.
18:58 <Steven> +2 to hit and +2d6+2 damage... pretty good.
19:19 <Avatar> every inquisitor I know drools over bane
19:47 <Bloodlust> it is cool but I'll only be able to do it for 5 rounds a day
19:55 <Bloodlust> by level 11
20:09 <Steven> well if you bane on a charge
20:37 <Steven> thats like +2d6+6 or +8
21:13 <Avatar> if you come into a tough fight, 5 rounds of 2d6+2 extra damage will give you the edge you want
21:33 <Avatar> your party members will be all, WHEW
21:40 <Avatar> thank god MOJO was here
21:48 <Bloodlust> So on a charge I'll do: 2d8+2d6+40
21:53 <Avatar> they'll pat you on the back and go good show mojo
22:32 <Steven> so.. at minimum 8 more damage at best 18 more damage....
22:47 <Bloodlust> when I get spirited charge, it'll be 3d8+2d6+60
23:58 <Bloodlust> On the charge by then I think I'd rather use the Katana
24:26 <Bloodlust> 4d6+38 but critting on a 15+
25:33 <Steven> if your katana is doing more damage than your lance you prolly done goofed your build a bit.
25:59 <Steven> at least when we are talking about charging.
26:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> don't samurai get an ancestor weapon or something?
26:09 <Steven> The lance is king when charging.
27:43 <Bloodlust> ancestor weapon?
27:51 <Bloodlust> yeah, probably better with the lance
28:24 <Bloodlust> I get to quick draw my katana as a free action after I hit (before the horse runs his ass over and knocks him prone - provoking)
28:27 <Steven> i mean you're dealing triple damage on a charge with a lance man.
28:51 <Steven> with spirited charge
28:55 <Bloodlust> how do crits work with things like this?
29:11 <Bloodlust> does it make it x4?
29:22 <Steven> yeah if you crit its x4 damage.
29:28 <Steven> with spirited charge
29:42 <Bloodlust> bane doesn't get added to crits does it
29:44 <Bloodlust> ?
29:55 <Steven> the extra 2d6 does not get multiplied.
30:02 <Steven> but the +2 enchantment damage does.
30:07 <Bloodlust> yeah
30:26 <Steven> so it becomes +8 damage on a crit
30:42 <Bloodlust> what about things like double damage from a charge with a lance - that's not a "crit"
33:15 <Steven> so double damage would be +4 damage from bane.
34:01 <Bloodlust> but the 2d6 doesn't "double"
35:19 <Bloodlust> I guess I need to figure out what to take for the next couple of levels (10,11, 12)
35:29 <Bloodlust> and then what to play the higher level games as
35:41 <Avatar> what's your highest level character
35:47 <Bloodlust> this guy
35:48 <Bloodlust> 10
35:51 <Avatar> nice
35:52 <Avatar> almost there
36:03 <Bloodlust> well, when I convert him he will be
36:04 <Avatar> maybe we need to look at running at 7-11 here
36:11 <Avatar> running a*
36:21 <Yiroep> I'm missing so many 7-11's. Especially season 2.
36:22 <Avatar> are you still only available friday nights
36:40 <Bloodlust> I normally quit when they reach 8th level because everyone else is just insanely powerful and I feel like a noob
36:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
37:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's because some people like to make grolschmeirs
37:06 <Avatar> I just spent 27 prestige on a rebuild man
37:08 <Avatar> I feel your pain
37:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> though not everyone does
37:25 <Bloodlust> I thought I'd made this guy fairly solid
37:33 <Bloodlust> as best as I could see to get him lots of cool shit
38:00 <Bloodlust> I thought the rolling twice on a FREE trip per round was great stuff
38:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> all that matters is 2 questions "do you live without bobbing up and down (aka going under 0 a lot)?" and "do you believe you are useful in scenarios?"
38:20 <Bloodlust> didn't take an action or INT 12
38:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if they are both yes, you're fine
39:51 <Steven> brunius... 712k per full load... no scor in this system
40:08 <Bloodlust> When I hit 0HP I have the Shawl of Lifekeeping (10HP back right away), My domain power which gives me my inquisitor level + wis bonus back (currently only 3HP) and if that isn't enough then I spend a point of samurai resolve and I'm still awake
40:47 <Avatar> I think in high level play you really need to either be (a) doing good damage, (b) able to minimise damage taken or (c) group healing
41:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
41:08 <Avatar> or (d) wizardry stuffs
41:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> Ava will at least be doing C, with hopefully either a or b
41:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
41:42 <Avatar> the thing about healers is that they'll still be screwed if the party is sub-par
41:43 <Bloodlust> I think I can dish out reasonable damage
41:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you don't have to do good damage, you have to be able to rid of enemies, damage or otherwise
41:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and ava was
42:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I was healing, but the people I was healing were flaying around
42:13 <Bloodlust> when I drop below 0HP and even with my buffs I'm still below, I pull out the Tower Shield and back off (cover)
42:13 <Yiroep> Yeah, some 10-11 subtier stuff would be fun. Allow me to play my bards more. :p
42:59 <Avatar> steven run us a 7-11 next weekend
43:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's why I'm not always that excited playing my healer after that awful game
43:22 <Yiroep> And if we go low I got an 8 wizard and 7 magus, both of which I love.
43:23 <Bloodlust> not prof in tower shield just use it as a mobile all lol
43:28 <Bloodlust> *mobile wall
43:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> my usefulness comes from how useful my party is, because if they aren't worth healing, I'm useless
43:42 <Yiroep> ...and an 8 druid I guess, if we REALLY need a blaster.
43:48 <Avatar> Bloodlust: are your scenarios updated on the site
43:54 <Bloodlust> no
44:07 <Avatar> what about your availability
44:09 <Avatar> still friday nights only?
44:23 <Steven> cant even begin to describe how many times honey has saved the group of TPKs with clutch mid combat heals...
44:38 <Steven> and yet i always hear how terrible mid combat healing is.
44:51 <Avatar> yeah anyone who says that hasn't seen what good group healing is
45:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> combat healing is awesome, people just look at the game as numbers and don't like it in that respect
45:18 <Bloodlust> my availability?
45:29 <Avatar> yeah when can you play
45:35 <Bloodlust> any time on the weekend
45:42 <Bloodlust> or most nights
45:51 <Avatar> Yiroep what about you
45:53 <Bloodlust> after about 4pm my time
46:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm with him, except I don't have a 7-11
46:17 <Avatar> pregen it up if you want
46:52 <Yiroep> My thing online is up to date.
47:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I could ezren and throw knives
47:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heard of someone doing that in a 7-11 on the boards
47:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I leled
52:09 <Steven> hey i'll play my gluttony wizard for no credit.
52:17 <Steven> make people hate him...
52:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> bloatmage?
53:42 <Steven> pffft... they told him he couldnt join.
53:50 <Yiroep> Friday nights work the best for me.
54:00 <Steven> cause the process of being a bloatmage might literally kill him.
54:13 <Yiroep> I can do other weekday nights, too. I'm EST, so it's your morning unfortunately.
54:39 <Yiroep> Weekends I almost always have something going on, but there may be an occasional day on a weekend I could do.
55:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> same, I usually spend time with my gf on the weekend
55:33 <Steven> he's currently 390lbs
55:43 <Steven> and is known at the shop as "The Fat Man"
55:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but she'll be working christmas work soon, so I'll have more time to roleplay XD
56:56 <Yiroep> I got local PFS responsibilities on the weekend usually. I organize some of the gamedays and GM a lot for them and such...
57:18 <Yiroep> And play, of course. :p
58:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the main PFS in melbourne is 2hrs away for me, or 30-40mins from girlfriend's place, and she is getting into it
58:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which is majorly why I don't play more in person, and the whole died twice there recently, conincidentally with the same annoying guy in the group
58:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh
59:18 <Steven> obviously one of the bad luckers.
59:22 <Steven> stone them to death!
59:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no, the bad luck guy was fine
59:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it was the guy who thought arcane mastery worked on magic missile
00:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and didn't own a core rule book, yet he owns many other books
00:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and also asks useless questions and do somewhat stupid things heh
00:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I prefer the bad luck man
01:14 <Steven> oh sir... the bad luck man never effects himself... he just attracts bad luck to those he parties with.
01:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nope, he was rolling really low, so the GM let him have reverse dice, so he was rolling really high
02:02 <Steven> wait... what?
02:13 <Steven> no... no... no...
02:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> reverse dice is 21 - what you roll
02:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> to start with he'd never roll above a 5
02:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> reversed the dice, he'd never roll bellow a 15
03:13 <Avatar> Steven: set up a game for next weekend
04:22 <Steven> why would i do that avatar?
05:11 <Avatar> there is like 8 of us wanting a game
05:31 <Steven> yeah, but...
05:35 <Avatar> no buts !
05:35 <Steven> i dont even like you man!
06:26 <Steven> and whos part of the 8?
07:27 <Avatar> at a minimum, Bloodlust Yiroep and me
07:41 <Avatar> mekkis brunius and ballig all have 7-11s
07:54 <Avatar> dunno about CWheezy
08:25 <Steven> Alright... Waking Rune it is!
08:39 <Avatar> no wait a minute
08:42 <Avatar> not that one
08:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why not?
08:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> have you played it?
08:52 <Steven> NOPE! you never gave me any guidelines!
08:56 <Avatar> it's like bonekeep
09:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so?
09:06 <Avatar> I need to do words of the ancients before waking rune anyway
09:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you'll be fine
09:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you don't NEED to
09:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you just wish to
09:21 <Avatar> no I need to
09:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I doubt it is a requirement
09:36 <Avatar> hey spaceshot shut pu
09:45 <Steven> avatar just doesnt wanna face krune...
10:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hey I would if I had a legit character
10:04 <Avatar> if I'd done words of the ancients I'd probably say yes
10:17 <Avatar> on easy mode
10:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> soft
10:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> SOFT
10:32 <Avatar> spaceshot where's your 7-11 character
10:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I haven't played as much
10:42 <Yiroep> It's not "easy mode," it's "normal mode." Lol.
10:47 <Yiroep> I heard it's still not easy.
10:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because when I left here, my other alternative was blackburn, which is 2hrs away
10:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not the easist trip
10:55 <Avatar> yeah yeah normal mode
11:14 <Yiroep> I love Words of the Ancients. Besides, I know the author in person. :p
11:38 <Steven> its not easy if you get it GM'd by Walter, Cameron, or Myself.
12:06 <Steven> Because we thought up things to do to parties.
12:41 <Yiroep> Pft, all you need is a 11th level wizard with antimagic field prepared. Lolz.
12:55 <Yiroep> (I actually don't know all of what's in there, btw...)
12:59 <Steven> doesnt... help.
13:13 <Avatar> maybe fingerprints of the fiend
13:19 <Avatar> mekkis has been pushing for that one for a while
13:23 <Steven> no avatar, we are doing waking runes!
13:40 <Avatar> I can't do waking rune man
13:52 <Yiroep> I need to get my 4th star so I can replay Eyes of the Ten.
14:05 <Avatar> do you GM Yiroep
14:09 <Avatar> why didn't you say something
14:10 <Yiroep> I'm co-GMing EoTT soon. Gonna be lots of fun. I'm doing all the spellcasters.
14:18 <Steven> my friend melissa and I are going to co-GM it.
14:21 <Yiroep> Lol...I've only played 2 games online and never GMed online.
14:29 <Avatar> yeah it's easy though
14:36 <Avatar> I can give you a runthrough of CA
14:45 <Steven> shes gonna do 2 of them and play 2 of them and im going to do the opposite.
14:54 <Yiroep> Oh wow!
14:59 <Yiroep> Steven, that's a great idea. Didn't think of that.
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