// #d&d — 2012-09-29
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00:00:01 <mamoulianfh> btw how to spend Prestige/Fame?
00:00:28 <Avatar> there's a table in the PFS guide
00:00:31 <Avatar> that tells you what you can buy with it
00:00:34 <Brunius> Just note it down on the sheet
00:00:40 <Ballig> kapow: don't worry about changing mine, not sure why the # isn't changing
00:00:45 <Ballig> I've changed mine myself
00:01:59 <kapow> it lets you leave it blank
00:02:02 <kapow> but any value you put it
00:02:08 <kapow> makes it put a 3 on the sheet
00:02:53 <Brunius> Night folks
00:04:20 <mamoulianfh> night
00:05:26 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
00:06:01 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 6th 9am (kapow, tier 1-5) / Wed 3rd 10am (Mekkis, tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:06:34 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Wed 3rd 10am (Mekkis, tier 1-5) / Sat 6th 9am (kapow, tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:06:54 <Avatar> is unicon on the 13th
00:07:05 <Mekkis> no
00:07:08 <Mekkis> 6th
00:07:47 <Mekkis> http://warhorn.net/melbourne-pfs/schedule/day.php?date=2012-10-06
00:08:06 <kapow> I'll be dming silken caravan on the 11th in the morning at an early time too i am pretty sure 10:30am for the googles group lot if you want to play in it i believe there might be 1 spot left
00:08:10 <kapow> 2 tables one with 5 one with 6 atm
00:12:33 <kapow> ballig other queenslanders do you guys have monday off?
00:12:37 <kapow> second labour day XP
00:12:47 <Ballig> I get this Monday and next Monday off
00:13:47 <kapow> brun/graky those around be interested in an early morning game monday
00:13:53 <kapow> the us players could try attend?
00:14:37 <kapow> seeing next weekend is apparently unicon where if i went i wouldn't dm but if i don't go i'd dm something people like mekkis & avatar have already played and others haven't
00:14:44 <kapow> instead of burning a resource everyone hasn't played
00:15:01 <Mekkis> kapow, you're going to fly down for unicon?
00:15:20 <kapow> if my tax goes in
00:15:22 <kapow> i can afford it
00:15:23 <Graky> how early
00:15:38 <kapow> did it early last week so it's a slim chance
00:15:44 <kapow> but if it where to then i could mekkis
00:16:05 <kapow> and like 9am Graky
00:16:06 <Mekkis> lucky you. When my tax goes in, I'll need to pay >$2000
00:16:20 <kapow> I get $1,500ish back
00:16:41 <kapow> earnt like $600 under the tax free threshold
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00:16:52 <kapow> so the only tax they keep is my medicare levy
00:16:58 <Graky> yeah i could probs make that
00:17:05 <kapow> according to e-tax
00:17:25 <Ballig> are you a bum
00:18:07 <Avatar> did someone call me
00:18:27 <Ballig> no one calls you
00:18:33 <kapow> no i moved home for 6-7 months last year
00:18:37 <kapow> and cared for my grandma
00:18:48 <kapow> but i didn't qualify as a full time carer
00:18:56 <Ballig> do you make money washing car windows at traffic lights kapow
00:19:03 <kapow> so my family basically said we'll cover your living expenses aslong as you look after her
00:19:17 <kapow> so i did until i found work
00:19:41 <Ballig> so now you wash car windows?
00:20:20 <kapow> then i moved to brisbane worked 3 1/2 months fucked my back at work went back they made me do shit that violated my returning to work medical conditions twice that reinjured me
00:20:21 <kapow> and i quit
00:20:44 <kapow> and now i sit at my pc or draw pcitures pretty much all day long while looking for work
00:21:09 <kapow> hence why i showed up here 2 months ago
00:21:14 <kapow> way too much free time
00:21:16 <kapow> 2 1/2 months ago
00:21:18 <Ballig> did you get workers compensation
00:23:08 <kapow> i had work cover while i was off work for a week when i did my back
00:23:12 <kapow> no workers comp for severage
00:23:19 <kapow> because i quit
00:23:32 <Ballig> I don't know that quitting means you can't get workers comp
00:23:35 <kapow> and i didn't take them to fair work because i really didn't want that on my resume
00:24:05 <Ballig> they are required to keep insurance for workers who get injured
00:24:30 <Mekkis> if you don't want it on your resume, don't put it on your resume
00:24:34 <kapow> yes i got paid my wage while i didn't work inbetween injuring myself and returning to work by the insurance
00:24:37 <kapow> work cover
00:24:54 <Ballig> why didn't you claim afterwards too
00:24:59 <kapow> all my medical was paid for by work cover
00:25:46 <Ballig> you have six months from the injury to make the claim
00:26:59 <kapow> I dunno I am fine now and I really don't like leaving a job with bad blood just feels wrong if i where to go claim it
00:27:09 <kapow> i got covered for all my medical and the time i couldn't work
00:27:12 <kapow> that felt right
00:27:39 <Ballig> but then you went back and they made you do things in contravention of medical advice
00:27:41 <Ballig> exacerbating your injuries
00:27:47 <Ballig> and you had to stop working because of it
00:27:55 <Ballig> that's the entire reason that workers compensation exists
00:28:31 <Ballig> I do the case management where I work, and trust me - people milk the system, but there's no hard feelings if someone uses the system legitimately
00:28:55 <Ballig> (the system used by the commonwealth government would be different to the one used in queensland, but the idea is the same)
00:29:04 <Mekkis> what about stress-related issues?
00:29:12 <kapow> I didn't stop working because i wasn't physically able i stopped working because i felt unsafe in my work place
00:29:36 <Ballig> psychological injuries are accepted under the commonwealth government scheme, couldn't tell you about any other scheme
00:29:41 <Ballig> psych injuries are on the rise
00:30:11 <kapow> really wasn't that bad of an injury though i slipped a disk in my back
00:31:16 <kapow> and then what happens with my tax and shit like that if i where to claim it now would the payout if i recieved any be back dated to prior end of financial year or moved into this one?
00:31:27 <kapow> because that causes all sort of possible headaches
00:31:47 <Ballig> it'd be backdated, but because you received it this financial year I imagine you would claim it on next year's tax
00:34:31 <kapow> mind if we had a chat like monday or something about it properly and i just finished up the pfs stuff n went to bed tonight XP
00:34:42 <Ballig> no problem
00:35:02 <kapow> would you like a game scheduled for monday morning?
00:35:16 <Ballig> we can try
00:35:40 <Mekkis> that's a public holiday for ACT and QLD, right?
00:35:40 <kapow> if we can't get a full group off our people i may post it to google groups i know a lot of the usa/eu people would probably jump on it with a 9am start
00:35:51 <kapow> yeah mekkis
00:35:53 <Avatar> we already had our labour day
00:35:56 <kapow> our second labour day this year XP
00:36:03 <Avatar> you don't get two
00:36:04 <Ballig> it's a public holiday for NSW too I think?
00:36:06 <kapow> we get 2 this year
00:36:09 <Mekkis> our second queen's birthday, actually
00:36:11 <Avatar> you don't get two
00:36:15 <Mekkis> you should know the difference
00:36:16 <Avatar> you get two, we get two
00:36:30 <Ballig> I get this monday off and next monday off
00:36:30 <Mekkis> it's Queens land
00:36:32 <Ballig> that's all I care about
00:36:34 <kapow> oh you know what i meant mekkis XP
00:36:40 <kapow> you where there for the conversation when i found out
00:36:41 <Mekkis> thus we have Queens' birthday twice
00:36:50 * Avatar removes voice from Ballig Graky mamoulianfh
00:36:53 <kapow> hahaha XP
00:37:02 <mamoulianfh> see you later
00:37:03 <kapow> I'll run something avatar has played and you guys haven't
00:37:06 <kapow> so he doesn't miss out
00:37:10 <Avatar> when
00:37:21 <kapow> monday morning 9am
00:37:28 <kapow> while your at work
00:37:36 <Avatar> 2 days?
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00:37:46 <Avatar> saturday sunday monday?
00:37:50 <Avatar> or monday next week
00:37:55 <kapow> yup this coming monday
00:38:04 <Steven> this sucks, im sobering up
00:38:29 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Mon 1st 9am (kapow, tier 1-5) / Wed 3rd 10am (Mekkis, tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:38:32 <Avatar> running what
00:38:35 <kapow> I'll always try run a scenario someone has already played if they can't attend when i plan to dm so's not to waste resources
00:38:42 <kapow> I'm about to figure that out avatar
00:38:51 <kapow> i am gonna look for ones you've played mekkis n ballig haven't
00:39:01 <Mekkis> I'm not available on Monday
00:39:15 <kapow> well whatever then XP
00:39:21 <kapow> that ballig hasn't gotten to play
00:39:23 <Mekkis> are you going to the prerelease tomorrow?
00:39:26 <Mekkis> ummm... today?
00:39:35 <kapow> oo where when!
00:39:44 <Mekkis> ummm
00:39:47 <Mekkis> Ace comics
00:39:47 <kapow> and are there sealed deck tournemants -.^?
00:39:50 <Mekkis> yes
00:40:01 <Mekkis> 9am, 12:30pm
00:40:03 <kapow> city or annerly?
00:40:06 <Mekkis> annerly
00:40:14 <kapow> fuck yeah count me there
00:40:42 <kapow> will bring my monies mekkis do you mind doing me up a poster then?
00:40:49 <kapow> i meant to take one back there sometime :P
00:40:54 <Mekkis> a poster?
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00:41:06 <kapow> a a4 piece of paper saying LFG shit
00:41:09 <kapow> for dark heresy
00:41:14 <kapow> with some details
00:41:18 <kapow> I'll make it would you print it?
00:41:21 <Mekkis> you sure you want A0?
00:41:24 <Mekkis> A4?
00:41:28 <Mekkis> I can print up to A0
00:41:44 <kapow> well one of the guys there said he'd throw it up in the window for me or the notice board whatever
00:42:04 <kapow> I think a-4 would be fine XP
00:42:11 <Mekkis> damn
00:42:15 <Mekkis> then I'll need to cut it
00:42:55 <Mekkis> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWTFG3J1CP8
00:43:07 <Avatar> kapow what's your highest level char
00:43:14 <kapow> 5 now
00:43:20 <Avatar> oh shit
00:43:23 <kapow> once i apply credit for that to henry
00:43:23 <Mekkis> cool
00:43:25 <Avatar> I'll set up a 5-9 soon
00:43:40 <kapow> well you said stuff last week about needing to be 5 for this weekend
00:43:44 <kapow> so i made it happen XP
00:43:55 <Avatar> ug did I say this weekend
00:44:04 <Avatar> no, after the con I think?
00:44:13 <kapow> yeah last weekend you did hence why i power leveled the shit outta henry
00:44:22 <Mekkis> he did power level
00:44:33 <Mekkis> almost as much as I power levelled Mytiazair in 2009
00:44:34 <Avatar> why didn't you remind me
00:44:53 <kapow> henry in the last 7 days has gotten 4 xp, paul has gotten 2 xp and peter has gotten 1 xp
00:45:19 <Mekkis> (4 days, 8 XP)
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00:45:35 <kapow> and i have a game on sunday at 5:30am for i believe henry
00:45:39 <kapow> it might be 1-2 though
00:45:44 <kapow> from the google groups :P
00:45:59 <kapow> plus now i have bi weekly dark heresy online games too n thursdays :D
00:46:18 <kapow> and the bi weekly wednesdays at good games thanks to mekkis
00:46:44 <Mekkis> actually, there's another campaign running on alternate wednesdays, if you want to make 7th level characters and watch them die
00:46:48 <kapow> ps mekkis do you have the rules for character creation for the 7th level thats on the alternating weeks? or pauls email address?
00:46:57 <Mekkis> email Flood
00:47:01 <Mekkis> he'll give you details
00:47:07 <kapow> i don't have his email
00:47:14 <kapow> and he said he was going to send them to me wednesday
00:47:16 <kapow> he hasn't yet
00:47:25 <Avatar> kapow did you use roll20
00:47:27 <Mekkis> he emailed me saying he lost your email address
00:47:31 <Mekkis> I emailed him it
00:47:31 <kapow> for todays game yeah
00:47:51 <kapow> and will be using it for the dark heresey ones too
00:49:05 <Avatar> good aye?
00:49:14 <Avatar> give us a review
00:52:08 <kapow> It's pretty good nice using the Google+ cuts skype out of it so alot less laggy even with video
00:52:15 <kapow> Layout is nice and simple
00:52:30 <kapow> didn't get to play around with it too much inner workings wise
00:52:31 <Avatar> did you use video
00:52:39 <kapow> though will be getting a lesson on that in next week or so from one of them
00:52:57 <kapow> i didn't have video running but dm had video on so i was recieving stream info
00:53:08 <kapow> has the option to play background music if thats your thing
00:53:10 <kapow> though we didn't use it
00:53:30 <kapow> from what i saw it seems to have the same kinda blackout function as DevCA
00:53:43 <kapow> not as advanced as the line of sight tools for maptools though
00:53:53 <kapow> able to have tokens with all details put in like maptools
00:54:07 <kapow> doesn't track movement though like maptools does
00:54:16 <kapow> so it doesn't give paths/options for waypoints
00:54:32 <kapow> being able to ping is kinda cool but it seems to not work if there is an object in the sector you ping
00:54:36 <kapow> or square
00:55:29 <kapow> but overall i like it had no lagg issues, looked to have all the support for macro's etc of maptools without the lagg shit. Had decent map building capabilities and multi tab support
00:55:37 <kapow> looked like gm was able to make tabs and just hide them
00:55:41 <kapow> unlike devca and maptools
00:55:52 <kapow> where you can see the options of all the maps if they are put there
00:56:11 <kapow> ah you have a journal which lets dm give you notes/faction mission etc
00:56:17 <kapow> and just assign who can see each one
00:56:29 <kapow> so could have a journal item only vissible to people of faction mission
00:56:41 <kapow> or say a note someone picked up off a guy everyone could see
00:56:46 <kapow> that can be pictures or just plane text
01:05:08 <kapow> so yeah thats pretty much my rant for you
01:05:13 <kapow> any specific questions?
01:05:28 <Graky> no game tomorrow right?
01:05:34 <Graky> or today even
01:05:53 <Mekkis> did any of its features get in the way of playing the game?
01:10:14 <kapow> hmmmm
01:10:22 <kapow> not really
01:10:31 <kapow> it didn't have any push to talk setup that i saw
01:10:56 <kapow> so you had to toggle mic between mute and on if you wanted to avoid background noise if people where loud in the background and your mic was sensitive
01:11:05 <kapow> and sometimes people forgot to unmute
01:11:15 <kapow> but thats the same as using skype without push to talk
01:11:26 <Mekkis> I thought roll20 was a web-based thing
01:12:13 <kapow> it is
01:12:19 <Mekkis> with VOIP?!
01:12:33 <Mekkis> I'm not sure if I should be impressed or concerned
01:12:43 <kapow> ah one of the guys had some issues using IE with it it let him connect but owuld randomly dc him
01:12:48 <kapow> and yes mekkis
01:12:52 <kapow> it had inbuilt VOIP
01:12:53 <kapow> and video
01:13:03 <kapow> it basically had a live stream from every individual person
01:13:06 <Mekkis> ok
01:13:06 <kapow> sent to everyone
01:13:10 <Mekkis> I'm concerned now
01:13:20 <kapow> with option for video and voip
01:13:36 <kapow> I'm not sure if thats the best way to put it overall
01:13:36 * Mekkis ensures that the piece of black tape is securely covering his webcam
01:13:39 <kapow> just the best way i know how to
01:13:52 <kapow> it auto detected my mic on
01:13:59 <kapow> so yeah not sure if it does that with cams
01:14:18 <kapow> i would think i probably would the first time
01:14:27 <kapow> but once you disabled it, it'd remain disabled
01:14:33 <kapow> have to get back to you on that one
01:15:17 * Mekkis considers using XSS to spy on people
01:15:42 <Avatar> reality sux
01:18:02 <Mekkis> am I the only person who is worried that visiting a website can cause my webcam and microphone to turn on and start streaming stuff to people across the world?
01:19:37 <kapow> not me really cause i don't use webcam on my pc
01:19:49 <kapow> only time i use any webcam is on my mobile phone through skype or vid calling
01:20:45 <Mekkis> just because you don't use it doesn't mean that Some Program can't start using it
01:21:05 <Mekkis> (not necessarily with your permission)
01:22:00 <Steven> indeed
01:22:09 <kapow> i mean i don't have a webcam attached to my pc
01:23:10 <Mekkis> you don't have a laptop?
01:25:23 <kapow> no
01:25:37 <kapow> which come to think of it would make going to unicon interesting XP
01:25:42 <kapow> would need a lot of paper
01:25:52 <kapow> considering everything i have is pdf's
01:31:15 <Avatar> Mekkis: you need to give it permission to activate your webcam and microphone
01:31:26 <Avatar> it's not across the world, it's to whoever's in there
01:32:05 <kapow> avatar it didn't request permission to active my mic
01:32:14 <kapow> as soon as i joined it was enabled for auto detect speach
01:32:20 <kapow> in the hangout
01:32:53 <kapow> so if i was to fall asleep like some people have a tendancy to do in our skype games
01:32:57 <kapow> you'd hear me snore there too using roll20
01:33:04 <Steven> methinks im not gonna stay up and talk tonight
01:33:19 <Steven> i got about another hour in me and then imma crash hardcore
01:33:50 <Avatar> I just got one thing to say about that
01:33:55 <Avatar> pathfinder 4eva
01:34:03 <Steven> YEAH BOI!
01:35:33 <Steven> you know what sucks avatar, i havent played pfs in a month and a week now.
01:37:31 <Avatar> we should do something about that
01:37:46 <Steven> i tried last week
01:38:02 <Steven> but ran into mechanical difficulties while out wood cutting
01:38:04 <Avatar> there's always next week
01:38:29 <Steven> next week, who knows, i think im digging a trench
01:38:38 <Avatar> you had to install something before you used it
01:39:10 <kapow> yeah a plugin
01:39:43 <kapow> but as soon as you activated the plugin before you could change any settings i am pretty sure you entered with mic enabled atleast
01:39:49 <kapow> then you could change the settings
01:41:21 <Steven> so whatcha think avatar? Zen Archer/Wizard/Arcane Archer
01:47:21 <Avatar> I don't know anything about zen archer and I don't know arcane archer well enough
01:48:47 <Steven> zen archer gets flurry of blows but with arrows
01:50:09 <Steven> but you add wis to attacking
01:50:35 <Steven> so you dont have to get rapid shot
01:50:47 <Steven> or many shot
01:50:53 <Avatar> sounds pretty sweet
01:51:01 <Avatar> spend a level instead of a feat
01:51:23 <Steven> you end up attacking with fewer arrows
01:51:39 <Ballig> seems attribute intensive
01:51:46 <kapow> everyone should have chronicles now i am going to med
01:51:52 <Steven> no more so then a regular monk i think
01:51:53 <kapow> have fun all
01:52:10 <Ballig> the wizard seems to make it more attribute intensive than a regular monk
01:52:29 <Steven> but you dont need much dex because at 3rd you add wis, and you only really need 12-13 int
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01:52:54 <Ballig> is it add wis to attack or add wis to damage?
01:53:17 <Steven> wis to attack
01:53:27 <Ballig> so you will be going for wis over dex
01:53:32 <Ballig> which means you won't get as much bonus from the dex to AC
01:53:32 <Steven> yup
01:53:43 <Steven> yeah i know
01:54:01 <Steven> but you dont really want to be up close in combat if you can help it at all
01:54:06 <Ballig> why not go fighter and use the extra feats on rapid shot/many shot instead
01:54:16 <Steven> I think its mostly gonna be someplace to dump my GM credit into
01:54:50 <Steven> cause thats what i would do if i wanted to make a character thats all over kicking ass
01:54:55 <Steven> i just wanna make one thats odd
01:55:04 <Ballig> then you don't need our opinions
01:55:06 <Ballig> just do it :p
01:55:26 <Steven> somebody else might have something awesome to add to it
01:55:36 <Brunius> Add a level of rogue
01:55:39 <Steven> and im always down for suggestions
01:55:40 <Brunius> So you can sneak attack
01:55:41 <Ballig> and a level of paladin
01:55:48 <Ballig> you will be the quirkest zen archer/wizard/arcane archer/rogue/paladin around
01:55:55 <Steven> lol
01:56:01 <Steven> but im dumping cha
01:56:03 <kapow> avatar one day next week we can have a mess around with roll20 if you'd like
01:56:05 <Ballig> so
01:56:10 <Ballig> this isn't about being all over kicking ass
01:56:13 <Ballig> it's about being odd
01:57:10 <Steven> hmmm i dont think paladin is gonna be cool
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01:58:08 <Brunius> Put in four levels
01:58:09 <Brunius> And get a roc
01:58:48 <Steven> why not just dip druid for one level and get boon companion?
01:59:32 <Brunius> Quiet you
01:59:39 <Brunius> Four levels of paladin
01:59:47 <Steven> awwwwwww
01:59:48 <Ballig> and four levels of rogue
01:59:49 <Brunius> Oh hang on
01:59:55 <Brunius> It's five levels of paladin
02:00:00 <Brunius> That makes it not worth it
02:00:54 <Avatar> Brunius: what level is your paladin now
02:01:09 <Brunius> Five
02:01:15 <Avatar> you still happy with him?
02:01:20 <Brunius> Think I still haven't figured out whether I want the companion or the weapon
02:01:21 <Brunius> Yeah
02:01:34 <Steven> !rand companion weapon
02:01:34 <dicebot> Steven, random: weapon
02:01:42 <Steven> oh oh oh its decided... weapon
02:01:44 <Avatar> thinking of abandoning my ninja in favour of the paladin
02:01:56 <Brunius> Do a ninjadin
02:02:02 <Steven> ninjadin!
02:02:08 <Steven> amazings
02:03:40 <Steven> i like making ninjadin
02:03:53 <Steven> i think imma do it
02:04:07 <Avatar> waste of levels
02:04:33 <Steven> okay how bout ninjadin w/ monk vow of silence
02:05:32 <Ballig> I wish Avatar would take a vow of silence irl
02:05:42 <Steven> ZING!
02:06:23 <Avatar> secretly you wish I talked more
02:08:00 <Steven> I dont mind your speakings avatar
02:11:50 <Steven> oh and another thing with zen archer is you can spend a ki point to change your damage dice from regular to the flurry of blows damage
02:13:17 <Steven> ill throw it in the maybe folder and make a new one
02:21:17 <Steven> just gotta figure out what new character i wanna make
02:21:28 <Steven> and play
02:24:43 <Steven> i think ill just make a XXXXXX/Living monument
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02:28:09 <Avatar> thanks Steven
02:28:10 <Avatar> that means alot
02:28:45 <Steven> no prob man!
02:59:18 <Steven> im thinking
02:59:26 <Steven> Paladin w/ the Oath of Loyalty
02:59:43 <Avatar> what is oath of loyalty
03:00:15 <Steven> https://sites.google.com/site/pathfinderogc/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---paladin-archetypes/oathbound-paladin/oath-of-loyalty
03:00:47 <Avatar> archetype thing
03:00:55 <Steven> yeah
03:01:14 <Steven> i give up smite evil
03:01:21 <Avatar> code of conduct is pretty hardcore
03:01:27 <Avatar> I would have fun with that as a GM
03:01:48 <Steven> and instead i can give people my cha to saves and AC to other people
03:02:04 <Avatar> is it worth ditching smite evil
03:02:09 <Avatar> isn't smite evil also hardcore
03:03:07 <Steven> could be
03:03:20 <Steven> completely depends on how i build the character
03:03:22 <Avatar> yeah smite evil is very hardcore
03:03:29 <Avatar> don't know if I can exchange that
03:04:39 <Avatar> the normal paladin's code of conduct is lighter than that archetype
03:04:45 <Steven> yeah
03:05:04 <Steven> dont give your word unless you mean it.
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03:17:12 <Steven> i suppose i could do a medium bab class as the base
03:17:21 <Avatar> it'd be better if you could choose your code
03:17:58 <Steven> you can, theres a list of codes
03:18:10 <Avatar> where
03:18:59 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---paladin-archetypes/oathbound-paladin
03:21:07 <Avatar> I mean just the oath, not whole new archetypes
03:21:48 <Steven> i suppose
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03:27:10 <Avatar> brb, fan making weird noises
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03:28:56 <Steven> kk
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03:53:56 <Avatar> nothing is fixing this grinding noise except whacking the box, and only then for a couple of minutes
03:54:41 <Steven> loose ball Bering
03:55:39 <Avatar> fuck
03:55:50 <Steven> best solution, replace the fan
03:56:29 <Avatar> it all sounds very complicated
03:57:31 <Avatar> oath of chastity
03:59:16 <Avatar> the oath sounds easy, but the mechanics of the archetype sounds shit
03:59:41 <Avatar> I guess pure of body is pretty sweet, 50% chance to turn crits into regular hits
03:59:58 <Avatar> but in exchange of immunity to charm spells and spell like abilities
04:00:06 <Avatar> I dunno
04:00:07 <Steven> i guess that depends on if you're in a campaign with lots of illusion
04:00:15 <Avatar> no such thing
04:00:21 <Avatar> PFS isn't one of those
04:01:05 <Steven> not everything is pfs,
04:01:39 <Steven> but for pfs, yeah that oath mechanics sucks
04:03:38 <Avatar> the oath mechanic is fine, but you have to deal with a bunch of other shitty archetype changes with it
04:07:20 <Avatar> oath of charity is alright
04:08:10 <Avatar> oh, except that it replaces divine bond
04:09:16 <Avatar> wait, these other archetypes don't even require you to be lawful good?
04:10:06 <Steven> some of them dont
04:10:12 <Steven> dunno if all of them are legal
04:10:34 <Avatar> shit that's kind of important to check
04:11:13 <Avatar> looks like they are
04:17:27 <Steven> okay told her im not staying up till 4am talking to her, shes pissy
04:17:33 <Steven> now im goin to sleep
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05:24:36 <Brunius> Avatar
05:24:39 <Brunius> You should play more DayZ
05:24:46 <Brunius> I just shot several bandits in Cherno
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06:00:53 <Avatar> yeah I will
06:01:03 <Avatar> it's just that every sweet game has come out recently
07:44:30 <Hydrazine> How did the game go?
08:00:37 <kapow> good i am pretty certain
08:06:46 <Hydrazine> Sweet.
08:06:57 <Hydrazine> Sorry I missed it. But I definately needed the sleep.
08:07:08 <Hydrazine> Preparing the house for a big party.
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11:33:10 <kapow> you'd hear me snore there too using roll20
11:38:51 <Avatar> you had to install something before you used it
11:39:23 <kapow> yeah a plugin
11:39:55 <kapow> but as soon as you activated the plugin before you could change any settings i am pretty sure you entered with mic enabled atleast
11:40:02 <kapow> then you could change the settings
11:51:59 <kapow> everyone should have chronicles now i am going to med
11:52:06 <kapow> have fun all
11:56:16 <kapow> avatar one day next week we can have a mess around with roll20 if you'd like
11:59:43 <Ballig> Hydrazine: why weren't we invited
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12:09:30 <Hydrazine> Because its my grandmother's birthday party, and you've never even met my grandmother.
12:09:48 <Ballig> it would be a great opportunity to meet her!
12:09:58 <Ballig> why are you always standing in the way of my happiness! why!
12:10:05 <Hydrazine> She just turned 60.
12:10:11 <Hydrazine> Because its what I do man, its just what I do.
12:16:10 <Hydrazine> So theres a game monday/
12:16:49 <Ballig> looks like it
12:17:48 <Hydrazine> Hope I can make it.
12:23:42 <Hydrazine> I feel kinda sad about missing the last one. I saw it had Cazbel and Rabble in it. Them guys are funny.
12:26:40 <Brunius> Er, is the topic gone?
12:27:08 <Hydrazine> It blocked you from its facebook.
12:28:11 <Avatar> did mekkis decide on a scenario
12:28:24 <Brunius> Perils, I believe
12:28:31 <Avatar> sure?
12:28:47 <Brunius> Nope
12:28:50 <Brunius> You'd have to ask him
12:37:15 <Hydrazine> Throw your hands in the air, and wave them around like you just don't compute.
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13:17:56 <Steven> what up
13:19:14 <Avatar> missed a sweet game last night
13:19:52 <Steven> i had already played it if memory serves
13:20:34 <Brunius> Hydra's Fang Incident?
13:20:57 <Avatar> I don't think you had it marked off on http://www.pfrpg.com.au/pfs.php5
13:25:20 <Steven> yeah
13:25:29 <Steven> i havent updated that in a while
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13:34:43 <Avatar> update it man
13:38:26 <Steven> i may.... or may not be under the influence of an alcoholic beverage
13:38:43 <Steven> which decreases my effectiveness at updating things
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13:43:04 <Avatar> that's fine
13:43:15 <Avatar> just give it a go and we'll see what happens
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13:52:33 <Steven> i think i got it
13:52:37 <Avatar> gg
13:56:14 <tashphones> Did you say AN alcoholic beverage?
13:56:22 <tashphones> What wa
13:56:38 <tashphones> S it, an entire bottle of spirits?
13:56:50 <Steven> it was a whiskey and coke... in a quart sized mason jar....
13:56:56 <Steven> it was mostly whisky
13:57:23 <Steven> my uncle mick said he didnt believe i could drink it
13:57:27 <Steven> well... i proved him wrong
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14:37:51 <Steven> this sucks, im sobering up
15:15:29 <Avatar> reality sux
15:21:48 <Steven> indeed
15:32:51 <Steven> methinks im not gonna stay up and talk tonight
15:33:06 <Steven> i got about another hour in me and then imma crash hardcore
15:33:37 <Avatar> I just got one thing to say about that
15:33:42 <Avatar> pathfinder 4eva
15:33:50 <Steven> YEAH BOI!
15:35:21 <Steven> you know what sucks avatar, i havent played pfs in a month and a week now.
15:37:18 <Avatar> we should do something about that
15:37:34 <Steven> i tried last week
15:37:50 <Steven> but ran into mechanical difficulties while out wood cutting
15:37:51 <Avatar> there's always next week
15:38:16 <Steven> next week, who knows, i think im digging a trench
15:41:08 <Steven> so whatcha think avatar? Zen Archer/Wizard/Arcane Archer
15:47:08 <Avatar> I don't know anything about zen archer and I don't know arcane archer well enough
15:48:34 <Steven> zen archer gets flurry of blows but with arrows
15:49:56 <Steven> but you add wis to attacking
15:50:22 <Steven> so you dont have to get rapid shot
15:50:35 <Steven> or many shot
15:50:41 <Avatar> sounds pretty sweet
15:50:48 <Avatar> spend a level instead of a feat
15:51:10 <Steven> you end up attacking with fewer arrows
15:51:26 <Ballig> seems attribute intensive
15:51:40 <Steven> no more so then a regular monk i think
15:51:58 <Ballig> the wizard seems to make it more attribute intensive than a regular monk
15:52:16 <Steven> but you dont need much dex because at 3rd you add wis, and you only really need 12-13 int
15:52:41 <Ballig> is it add wis to attack or add wis to damage?
15:53:05 <Steven> wis to attack
15:53:15 <Ballig> so you will be going for wis over dex
15:53:19 <Ballig> which means you won't get as much bonus from the dex to AC
15:53:19 <Steven> yup
15:53:30 <Steven> yeah i know
15:53:48 <Steven> but you dont really want to be up close in combat if you can help it at all
15:53:53 <Ballig> why not go fighter and use the extra feats on rapid shot/many shot instead
15:54:03 <Steven> I think its mostly gonna be someplace to dump my GM credit into
15:54:38 <Steven> cause thats what i would do if i wanted to make a character thats all over kicking ass
15:54:43 <Steven> i just wanna make one thats odd
15:54:51 <Ballig> then you don't need our opinions
15:54:53 <Ballig> just do it :p
15:55:13 <Steven> somebody else might have something awesome to add to it
15:55:23 <Brunius> Add a level of rogue
15:55:27 <Steven> and im always down for suggestions
15:55:27 <Brunius> So you can sneak attack
15:55:28 <Ballig> and a level of paladin
15:55:35 <Ballig> you will be the quirkest zen archer/wizard/arcane archer/rogue/paladin around
15:55:43 <Steven> lol
15:55:48 <Steven> but im dumping cha
15:55:52 <Ballig> so
15:55:57 <Ballig> this isn't about being all over kicking ass
15:56:00 <Ballig> it's about being odd
15:56:57 <Steven> hmmm i dont think paladin is gonna be cool
15:57:55 <Brunius> Put in four levels
15:57:56 <Brunius> And get a roc
15:58:36 <Steven> why not just dip druid for one level and get boon companion?
15:59:20 <Brunius> Quiet you
15:59:26 <Brunius> Four levels of paladin
15:59:34 <Steven> awwwwwww
15:59:35 <Ballig> and four levels of rogue
15:59:37 <Brunius> Oh hang on
15:59:42 <Brunius> It's five levels of paladin
15:59:47 <Brunius> That makes it not worth it
16:00:41 <Avatar> Brunius: what level is your paladin now
16:00:56 <Brunius> Five
16:01:02 <Avatar> you still happy with him?
16:01:07 <Brunius> Think I still haven't figured out whether I want the companion or the weapon
16:01:09 <Brunius> Yeah
16:01:21 <Steven> !rand companion weapon
16:01:21 <dicebot> Steven, random: weapon
16:01:29 <Steven> oh oh oh its decided... weapon
16:01:31 <Avatar> thinking of abandoning my ninja in favour of the paladin
16:01:43 <Brunius> Do a ninjadin
16:01:49 <Steven> ninjadin!
16:01:55 <Steven> amazings
16:03:28 <Steven> i like making ninjadin
16:03:40 <Steven> i think imma do it
16:03:54 <Avatar> waste of levels
16:04:20 <Steven> okay how bout ninjadin w/ monk vow of silence
16:05:20 <Ballig> I wish Avatar would take a vow of silence irl
16:05:29 <Steven> ZING!
16:06:10 <Avatar> secretly you wish I talked more
16:07:47 <Steven> I dont mind your speakings avatar
16:11:37 <Steven> oh and another thing with zen archer is you can spend a ki point to change your damage dice from regular to the flurry of blows damage
16:13:04 <Steven> ill throw it in the maybe folder and make a new one
16:21:05 <Steven> just gotta figure out what new character i wanna make
16:21:16 <Steven> and play
16:24:30 <Steven> i think ill just make a XXXXXX/Living monument
16:27:56 <Avatar> thanks Steven
16:27:57 <Avatar> that means alot
16:28:32 <Steven> no prob man!
16:59:05 <Steven> im thinking
16:59:14 <Steven> Paladin w/ the Oath of Loyalty
16:59:31 <Avatar> what is oath of loyalty
17:00:02 <Steven> https://sites.google.com/site/pathfinderogc/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---paladin-archetypes/oathbound-paladin/oath-of-loyalty
17:00:35 <Avatar> archetype thing
17:00:42 <Steven> yeah
17:01:01 <Steven> i give up smite evil
17:01:08 <Avatar> code of conduct is pretty hardcore
17:01:15 <Avatar> I would have fun with that as a GM
17:01:36 <Steven> and instead i can give people my cha to saves and AC to other people
17:01:51 <Avatar> is it worth ditching smite evil
17:01:56 <Avatar> isn't smite evil also hardcore
17:02:54 <Steven> could be
17:03:07 <Steven> completely depends on how i build the character
17:03:09 <Avatar> yeah smite evil is very hardcore
17:03:16 <Avatar> don't know if I can exchange that
17:04:27 <Avatar> the normal paladin's code of conduct is lighter than that archetype
17:04:32 <Steven> yeah
17:04:51 <Steven> dont give your word unless you mean it.
17:17:00 <Steven> i suppose i could do a medium bab class as the base
17:17:08 <Avatar> it'd be better if you could choose your code
17:17:45 <Steven> you can, theres a list of codes
17:17:57 <Avatar> where
17:18:46 <Steven> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/paladin/archetypes/paizo---paladin-archetypes/oathbound-paladin
17:20:54 <Avatar> I mean just the oath, not whole new archetypes
17:21:35 <Steven> i suppose
17:26:58 <Avatar> brb, fan making weird noises
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17:28:44 <Steven> kk
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17:44:42 <Hydrazine> How did the game go?
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17:53:43 <Avatar> nothing is fixing this grinding noise except whacking the box, and only then for a couple of minutes
17:54:28 <Steven> loose ball Bering
17:55:26 <Avatar> fuck
17:55:37 <Steven> best solution, replace the fan
17:56:16 <Avatar> it all sounds very complicated
17:57:18 <Avatar> oath of chastity
17:59:03 <Avatar> the oath sounds easy, but the mechanics of the archetype sounds shit
17:59:28 <Avatar> I guess pure of body is pretty sweet, 50% chance to turn crits into regular hits
17:59:46 <Avatar> but in exchange of immunity to charm spells and spell like abilities
17:59:54 <Avatar> I dunno
17:59:54 <Steven> i guess that depends on if you're in a campaign with lots of illusion
18:00:02 <Avatar> no such thing
18:00:09 <Avatar> PFS isn't one of those
18:00:50 <kapow> good i am pretty certain
18:00:52 <Steven> not everything is pfs,
18:01:26 <Steven> but for pfs, yeah that oath mechanics sucks
18:03:25 <Avatar> the oath mechanic is fine, but you have to deal with a bunch of other shitty archetype changes with it
18:06:59 <Hydrazine> Sweet.
18:07:07 <Avatar> oath of charity is alright
18:07:10 <Hydrazine> Sorry I missed it. But I definately needed the sleep.
18:07:21 <Hydrazine> Preparing the house for a big party.
18:07:58 <Avatar> oh, except that it replaces divine bond
18:09:03 <Avatar> wait, these other archetypes don't even require you to be lawful good?
18:09:53 <Steven> some of them dont
18:10:00 <Steven> dunno if all of them are legal
18:10:21 <Avatar> shit that's kind of important to check
18:11:00 <Avatar> looks like they are
18:17:15 <Steven> okay told her im not staying up till 4am talking to her, shes pissy
18:17:20 <Steven> now im goin to sleep
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19:24:23 <Brunius> Avatar
19:24:26 <Brunius> You should play more DayZ
19:24:33 <Brunius> I just shot several bandits in Cherno
20:00:40 <Avatar> yeah I will
20:00:50 <Avatar> it's just that every sweet game has come out recently
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21:59:56 <Ballig> Hydrazine: why weren't we invited
22:09:43 <Hydrazine> Because its my grandmother's birthday party, and you've never even met my grandmother.
22:10:00 <Ballig> it would be a great opportunity to meet her!
22:10:11 <Ballig> why are you always standing in the way of my happiness! why!
22:10:17 <Hydrazine> She just turned 60.
22:10:24 <Hydrazine> Because its what I do man, its just what I do.
22:14:23 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Mon 1st 9am (kapow, tier 1-5) / Wed 3rd 10am (Mekkis, tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
22:14:23 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sat Sep 29 12:28:04 2012
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22:16:23 <Hydrazine> So theres a game monday/
22:17:02 <Ballig> looks like it
22:18:01 <Hydrazine> Hope I can make it.
22:23:55 <Hydrazine> I feel kinda sad about missing the last one. I saw it had Cazbel and Rabble in it. Them guys are funny.
22:26:53 <Brunius> Er, is the topic gone?
22:27:21 <Hydrazine> It blocked you from its facebook.
22:28:23 <Avatar> did mekkis decide on a scenario
22:28:37 <Brunius> Perils, I believe
22:28:43 <Avatar> sure?
22:28:59 <Brunius> Nope
22:29:02 <Brunius> You'd have to ask him
22:37:28 <Hydrazine> Throw your hands in the air, and wave them around like you just don't compute.
23:18:08 <Steven> what up
23:19:26 <Avatar> missed a sweet game last night
23:20:04 <Steven> i had already played it if memory serves
23:20:47 <Brunius> Hydra's Fang Incident?
23:21:10 <Avatar> I don't think you had it marked off on http://www.pfrpg.com.au/pfs.php5
23:25:33 <Steven> yeah
23:25:42 <Steven> i havent updated that in a while
23:34:55 <Avatar> update it man
23:38:38 <Steven> i may.... or may not be under the influence of an alcoholic beverage
23:38:55 <Steven> which decreases my effectiveness at updating things
23:43:17 <Avatar> that's fine
23:43:28 <Avatar> just give it a go and we'll see what happens
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23:52:46 <Steven> i think i got it
23:52:50 <Avatar> gg
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23:56:27 <tashphones> Did you say AN alcoholic beverage?
23:56:35 <tashphones> What wa
23:56:51 <tashphones> S it, an entire bottle of spirits?
23:57:03 <Steven> it was a whiskey and coke... in a quart sized mason jar....
23:57:09 <Steven> it was mostly whisky
23:57:36 <Steven> my uncle mick said he didnt believe i could drink it
23:57:39 <Steven> well... i proved him wrong
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