// #d&d — 2012-09-26
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00:01:59 <kapow> I was hoping maybe you'd see it by 8 when i left XP
00:02:05 <kapow> like got up or what not
00:02:16 <kapow> plus i did ask you like 3 times last night for the address n time :/
00:02:22 <kapow> while i was sending you files n what not
00:02:45 <MekkisScreen> I had sent it to you before
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01:25:35 <kapow> I didn't remember where it was why i was asking :(
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02:18:26 <Steven> stupid mibbit been a pain in my ass the last day
02:19:13 <Brunius> So don't use it
02:20:12 <Steven> i fixed it.
02:24:26 <MekkisScreen> why do you use it?
02:24:42 <Steven> cause i dont wanna pay for a client
02:24:55 <MekkisScreen> so brunius: are you playing on the 3rd?
02:25:07 <Brunius> xchat 2
02:25:15 <MekkisScreen> so use one of the multitude of free clients then, steven
02:25:21 <Steven> dont like xchat
02:25:40 <Brunius> Let's go with no
02:25:41 <Steven> i fixed it, so its not an issue anymore
02:26:05 <Steven> methinks imma get some pie
02:26:08 <MekkisScreen> I suggest you download Virtualbox (free), install opensuse on it (free), and run bitchx or xchat in it (free, in both cases)
02:26:15 * MekkisScreen just ate a pie
02:26:25 <Brunius> Or you could run xchat in windows natively
02:27:19 <MekkisScreen> you want to do it the easy way
02:27:46 <Brunius> Yep.
02:28:15 * MekkisScreen is running virtualbox on windows to run X to ssh into a machine running linux, to run virtualbox on it, to run windows on the virtual machine.
02:28:40 <MekkisScreen> and yes, that is what I'm paid to do
02:29:22 <kapow> question can you full round attack with a weapon and shield bash at same time?
02:29:56 <Brunius> Seems a bit complicated
02:30:22 <Brunius> Can't you just use putty to ssh into a machine running linux, to run virtualbox on it, to run windows on the virtual machine
02:30:33 <MekkisScreen> oh, then use the virtual machine running on my local machine to remote desktop into the virtual machine running on the remote machine
02:31:04 <Brunius> insert yo dawg meme here
02:31:26 <Steven> pie so tasty....
02:31:50 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: potentially: but putty on windows is a rather poor ssh client, and X servers on windows are rather unreliable
02:32:17 <Brunius> And it's more reliable to virtualbox the whole way?
02:32:29 <Brunius> Yay insane dwarfs
02:32:34 <MekkisScreen> actually, it isn't
02:34:19 <Brunius> So why are you doing it?
02:34:53 <MekkisScreen> virtualbox is more reliable
02:39:10 <MekkisScreen> and you really don't want your ssh (or your X) link to die while you're running a virtual machine on a remote computer
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02:50:19 <Steven> that pie was awesome... coconut creme how i love you
02:50:26 <Steven> anyways.... sup sup sup sup su
02:50:27 <Steven> p
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03:23:58 <Brunius> I have to try rubber duck debugging some time
03:24:20 <Avatar> that sounds dirty
03:24:30 <Brunius> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
03:25:06 <Mekkis> Brunius, ever played Welltris?
03:25:11 <Avatar> people don't read your dialogue boxes
03:25:20 <Brunius> Nope
03:26:08 <Mekkis> Avatar, three things you learn as a software engineer: Users don't read manuals, Users don't read dialog boxes, Users don't read.
03:26:30 <Avatar> yeap
03:26:37 <Avatar> wise words
03:26:51 <Mekkis> so make your manual really thick and unreadable
03:27:10 <Avatar> to accomplish what
03:27:22 <Mekkis> then use it to blame the user when they do things wrong
03:27:28 <Brunius> Push up production costs
03:27:31 <Brunius> Make more profit
03:27:32 <Avatar> that gives them an excuse to blame you
03:27:48 <Mekkis> they blame you anyway
03:28:08 <Avatar> yeah but now you give them a good excuse to
03:28:57 <Brunius> How is "I didn't read the manual you told me to read" a good excuse?
03:29:23 <Avatar> "because you made it thick and unreadable"
03:29:38 <Brunius> If they haven't read it, they won't know that
03:29:53 <Avatar> they only have to glance at it
03:34:02 <Avatar> !roll 1d20
03:34:03 <dicebot> Avatar, 1d20: [1d20=18] 18
03:34:40 <Avatar> Ballig: did you test out that highlight thing we recommended to brian on sunday
03:34:50 <Avatar> doesn't work for me either
03:36:39 <Mekkis> Avatar, what you're missing is that the people who complain aren't the people who use the system
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03:39:15 <Avatar> maybe not where you're from
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03:44:26 <Ballig> !roll 1d20
03:44:27 <dicebot> Ballig, 1d20: [1d20=8] 8
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03:45:08 <Ballig> it works if you make it regex and make it : \[
03:47:05 <Avatar> what is regex
03:47:11 <Avatar> !roll 1d3
03:47:12 <dicebot> Avatar, 1d3: [1d3=2] 2
03:47:30 <Avatar> !roll 1d3
03:47:31 <dicebot> Avatar, 1d3: [1d3=2] 2
03:47:33 <Avatar> there we go
04:01:13 <ramasa> !roll 1d6
04:01:14 <dicebot> ramasa, 1d6: [1d6=3] 3
04:03:52 <ramasa> haha
04:04:42 <Ballig> hm?
04:07:12 <Avatar> Mekkis: I messaged you around 8-9
04:19:29 <ramasa> !roll 1d20
04:19:31 <dicebot> ramasa, 1d20: [1d20=1] 1
04:19:37 <Ballig> bad luck
04:25:56 <ramasa> haha
04:25:57 <ramasa> !roll 1d20
04:26:01 <dicebot> ramasa, 1d20: [1d20=20] 20
04:26:08 <Ballig> well now you're just cheating
04:31:28 <ramasa> took 6mins to roll the dice
04:31:37 <Ballig> took 3 seconds
04:31:49 <Ballig> it's more lagged than it usually is
04:31:54 <Ballig> noticed that on the weekend
04:31:59 <ramasa> oh
04:32:10 <Ballig> you rolled twice
04:39:52 <ramasa> hmm...
04:41:18 <Mekkis> !roll 1d20+3 will save (+2 vs enchantment)
04:41:20 <dicebot> Mekkis, will save (+2 vs enchantment): [1d20=19] 24
04:41:26 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+3 will save (+2 vs enchantment)
04:41:28 <diebot> Mekkis, will save (+2 vs enchantment): [1d20=10] 13
04:41:52 <Ballig> I'm aware you're again highlighting that dicebot includes +s in the description, but I see no reason to change it
04:41:57 <Brunius> Why does it do +5 the first time and +3 the second one
04:42:10 <Ballig> because dicebot does math on the entire line
04:42:14 <Ballig> not just what it decides is the description
04:48:52 <Brunius> ...Apparently Wozniak wants to move to Australia
04:50:25 <Ballig> he has a net worth of $100m USD
04:50:32 <Ballig> I'm sure if he wants to move to Australia he'll be moving to Australia
04:50:57 <Brunius> Soon to be 104m AUD
04:51:18 <Brunius> Hmm, wrong way I think
04:52:03 <Ballig> yeah wrong way
04:52:17 <Ballig> maybe he won't move because he wants to remain a 100 millionaire
04:57:24 <Mekkis> wait until after the US election
06:08:14 <MekkisScreen> With regards to?
06:20:36 <Avatar> kapow trying to get onto you
06:20:46 <Avatar> didn't you get it
06:45:44 <Avatar> I've never heard of shield bashing
07:07:42 <Mekkis> seems stupid
07:07:50 <Mekkis> short answer, no
07:08:27 <Mekkis> long answer, how good are you at surface mount soldering
07:08:38 <Brunius> Ha
07:08:56 <Mekkis> and embedded programming
07:09:05 <Mekkis> and interfacing
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07:16:08 <Ballig> Avatar: because it basically works like two weapon fighting
07:16:14 <Ballig> and if you're going to two weapon fight, you might as well use two weapons
07:16:20 <Ballig> (you don't get your shield AC while bashing with it)
07:18:05 <spider21b> hey avatar!
07:18:52 <Avatar> hi spider21b
07:19:09 <Avatar> you can get improved shield bash to deal with that, I guess that might make it worth it
07:19:28 <spider21b> is there a style of fighting only using shields?
07:19:31 <Avatar> with a lot of work to make it effective, you could get two weapon defense instead
07:19:47 <Avatar> there's heaps of feats for properly using a shield
07:20:14 <Ballig> someone remind me on Friday that we're playing
07:22:10 <Avatar> yeah I'll remind you
07:22:18 <Avatar> using my memory
07:22:32 <Ballig> sweet, thanks
07:22:51 <Avatar> I'd actually forgotten until you just mentioned it now
07:22:56 <spider21b> wait there is a game on friday?
07:23:20 <Avatar> spider21b: are you not getting emails about games that are on
07:23:36 <spider21b> nope
07:23:54 <Avatar> can you see the topic of the channel
07:24:02 <Ballig> why aren't you getting the emails
07:24:14 <Avatar> did you put in a real email address when you registered
07:24:21 <Avatar> your gmail one
07:24:34 <spider21b> o i check never mind i cant play that game anyway
07:24:38 <spider21b> 1 am my time
07:25:02 <Avatar> did you check your email
07:25:29 <spider21b> i found it in my e-mail!
07:25:40 <Avatar> okay
07:26:02 <Avatar> you'll always get invites to games if you haven't played the scenario before, and the game times will be listed in the topic as well (GMT+10)
07:26:09 <Avatar> if you click schedule on the site, they'll be listed in your local time
07:26:20 <Avatar> on www.pfrpg.com.au
07:36:23 <spider21b> gotcha
07:59:12 <Hydrazine> I think the reason shield bashing isn't a more common strategy, is that you suffer twf penalties, and only light shields are light weapons to get the penalties down to -2.
08:00:22 <Graky> sorc vs wiz
08:00:26 <Graky> whats more fun to play
08:00:32 <Hydrazine> And a 1d4+1/2 str just isn't that impressive.
08:00:32 <Hydrazine> sorc for me.
08:00:57 <Hydrazine> However, if you really commit into it and get the free bull rushes, that could be interesting.
08:06:22 <Hydrazine> But if you carry a weapon just for show and only attack with the shield.. then you're in business.
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08:12:16 <Mekkis> Graky, depends on level
08:12:35 <Mekkis> sorcerer gets boring low levels
08:12:51 <Mekkis> you're playing /nine scenarios/ with nothing by first level spells
08:13:27 <Brunius> Sorc has more flexibility on the day
08:13:36 <Brunius> Wizard has more flexibility for long term
08:13:36 <Mekkis> it does?
08:13:43 <Mekkis> you haven't seen a wizard played well
08:14:07 <Mekkis> (several free slots, lots of pearls of power, bonded item)
08:14:53 <Brunius> I try to avoid seeing wizards played at all
08:15:59 <Mekkis> actively
08:16:00 <Mekkis> ?
08:16:21 <Brunius> Passively
08:17:01 <Mekkis> by not playing at all?
08:18:58 <Brunius> To an extent
08:19:10 <Brunius> That's not the reason at all
08:19:13 <Brunius> But it helps
08:22:16 <spider21b> back
10:02:21 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Fri 28th 6pm (kapow, tier 1-5) / Wed 3rd 10am (Mekkis, tier 1-5) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
10:02:21 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Sep 24 17:26:50 2012
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10:04:18 <Brunius> GG dwarves
10:04:27 <Brunius> Just fall all the way down the well
10:04:36 <Brunius> That's fine.
10:04:42 <Brunius> I didn't need you for anything like, I dunno, FINISHING THE GODDAMN WELL
10:12:17 <kapow> Guess not :(
10:17:03 <Brunius> I'm around
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11:03:32 <MekkisScreen> ..
11:03:53 <MekkisScreen> why does kapow expect me to respond to him at 5am in the morning?
11:04:07 <Brunius> Because Ballig and Avatar are up
11:04:24 <MekkisScreen> why are THEY up?
11:38:55 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: you still haven't told me about Wed 3rd
11:39:11 <Brunius> I haven't, mainly because I forgot about it
11:41:58 <MekkisScreen> I'm thinking Citadel of Flame
11:42:30 <MekkisScreen> if you haven't played it
12:29:34 <kapow> question can you full round attack with a weapon and shield bash at same time?
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13:19:08 <spider21b> hey guys
13:19:28 <spider21b> when?
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13:25:22 <Brunius> Next wednesday
13:25:40 <spider21b> cool
13:25:46 <spider21b> what is it in pst?
13:27:21 <Brunius> What time zone is pst?
13:27:25 <Brunius> It's 12am UTC
13:28:52 <MekkisScreen> no idea
13:29:19 <MekkisScreen> why don't you learn your UTC offset like everyone who's civilised
13:33:23 <kapow> google is your friend ?
13:33:35 <kapow> well mekkis i have dice now ^_^
13:33:51 <kapow> after this mornings adventure to the southside
13:34:35 <kapow> spent the morning until i was able to message you chilling ate the cafe above ace then proceeded to spend my money when they opened :/
13:35:07 <kapow> only place you've ever mentioned before so i went there was all i could remember XP so was like pretty sure it was somewhere southside i'll go there
13:35:13 <kapow> derp derp
13:39:29 <Brunius> Huh
13:39:43 <Brunius> The original DNF team want people to fund their new FPS
13:43:24 <kapow> dnf?
13:43:44 <Brunius> Duke Nukem Forever
13:45:25 <kapow> did they start like a kick starter or something like that
13:45:28 <kapow> or just asking outright?
13:46:25 <Brunius> Looks like a kickstarter equivalent
13:46:29 <Brunius> But specifically for games
13:50:13 <MekkisScreen> Kapow, sending me a message at 5am is not going tohelp
13:50:49 <MekkisScreen> brunius, you really want to give the DNF team your money?
13:50:57 <Brunius> I didn't say that
13:52:14 <MekkisScreen> giving their track record of return on investment...
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14:01:46 <kapow> I was hoping maybe you'd see it by 8 when i left XP
14:01:53 <kapow> like got up or what not
14:02:04 <kapow> plus i did ask you like 3 times last night for the address n time :/
14:02:10 <kapow> while i was sending you files n what not
14:02:33 <MekkisScreen> I had sent it to you before
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15:25:23 <kapow> I didn't remember where it was why i was asking :(
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16:19:01 <Brunius> So don't use it
16:19:59 <Steven> i fixed it.
16:24:14 <MekkisScreen> why do you use it?
16:24:30 <Steven> cause i dont wanna pay for a client
16:24:43 <MekkisScreen> so brunius: are you playing on the 3rd?
16:24:55 <Brunius> xchat 2
16:25:03 <MekkisScreen> so use one of the multitude of free clients then, steven
16:25:09 <Steven> dont like xchat
16:25:27 <Brunius> Let's go with no
16:25:29 <Steven> i fixed it, so its not an issue anymore
16:25:52 <Steven> methinks imma get some pie
16:25:55 <MekkisScreen> I suggest you download Virtualbox (free), install opensuse on it (free), and run bitchx or xchat in it (free, in both cases)
16:26:03 * MekkisScreen just ate a pie
16:26:13 <Brunius> Or you could run xchat in windows natively
16:27:07 <MekkisScreen> you want to do it the easy way
16:27:34 <Brunius> Yep.
16:28:02 * MekkisScreen is running virtualbox on windows to run X to ssh into a machine running linux, to run virtualbox on it, to run windows on the virtual machine.
16:28:28 <MekkisScreen> and yes, that is what I'm paid to do
16:29:44 <Brunius> Seems a bit complicated
16:30:10 <Brunius> Can't you just use putty to ssh into a machine running linux, to run virtualbox on it, to run windows on the virtual machine
16:30:21 <MekkisScreen> oh, then use the virtual machine running on my local machine to remote desktop into the virtual machine running on the remote machine
16:30:51 <Brunius> insert yo dawg meme here
16:31:14 <Steven> pie so tasty....
16:31:38 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: potentially: but putty on windows is a rather poor ssh client, and X servers on windows are rather unreliable
16:32:05 <Brunius> And it's more reliable to virtualbox the whole way?
16:32:17 <Brunius> Yay insane dwarfs
16:32:22 <MekkisScreen> actually, it isn't
16:34:07 <Brunius> So why are you doing it?
16:34:41 <MekkisScreen> virtualbox is more reliable
16:38:58 <MekkisScreen> and you really don't want your ssh (or your X) link to die while you're running a virtual machine on a remote computer
16:45:56 <Avatar> I've never heard of shield bashing
16:50:07 <Steven> that pie was awesome... coconut creme how i love you
16:50:14 <Steven> anyways.... sup sup sup sup su
16:50:15 <Steven> p
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17:16:20 <Ballig> Avatar: because it basically works like two weapon fighting
17:16:26 <Ballig> and if you're going to two weapon fight, you might as well use two weapons
17:16:33 <Ballig> (you don't get your shield AC while bashing with it)
17:18:17 <spider21b> hey avatar!
17:19:04 <Avatar> hi spider21b
17:19:21 <Avatar> you can get improved shield bash to deal with that, I guess that might make it worth it
17:19:41 <spider21b> is there a style of fighting only using shields?
17:19:43 <Avatar> with a lot of work to make it effective, you could get two weapon defense instead
17:19:59 <Avatar> there's heaps of feats for properly using a shield
17:20:26 <Ballig> someone remind me on Friday that we're playing
17:22:22 <Avatar> yeah I'll remind you
17:22:30 <Avatar> using my memory
17:22:44 <Ballig> sweet, thanks
17:23:03 <Avatar> I'd actually forgotten until you just mentioned it now
17:23:08 <spider21b> wait there is a game on friday?
17:23:32 <Avatar> spider21b: are you not getting emails about games that are on
17:23:48 <spider21b> nope
17:24:06 <Avatar> can you see the topic of the channel
17:24:14 <Ballig> why aren't you getting the emails
17:24:27 <Avatar> did you put in a real email address when you registered
17:24:33 <Avatar> your gmail one
17:24:46 <spider21b> o i check never mind i cant play that game anyway
17:24:50 <spider21b> 1 am my time
17:25:15 <Avatar> did you check your email
17:25:41 <spider21b> i found it in my e-mail!
17:25:52 <Avatar> okay
17:26:15 <Avatar> you'll always get invites to games if you haven't played the scenario before, and the game times will be listed in the topic as well (GMT+10)
17:26:21 <Avatar> if you click schedule on the site, they'll be listed in your local time
17:26:32 <Avatar> on www.pfrpg.com.au
17:36:35 <spider21b> gotcha
17:59:24 <Hydrazine> I think the reason shield bashing isn't a more common strategy, is that you suffer twf penalties, and only light shields are light weapons to get the penalties down to -2.
18:00:45 <Hydrazine> And a 1d4+1/2 str just isn't that impressive.
18:01:09 <Hydrazine> However, if you really commit into it and get the free bull rushes, that could be interesting.
18:06:35 <Hydrazine> But if you carry a weapon just for show and only attack with the shield.. then you're in business.
18:22:28 <spider21b> back
19:43:40 <kapow> Anyone home?
19:45:53 <Mekkis> ;
20:12:29 <kapow> Guess not :(
20:17:15 <Brunius> I'm around
20:23:20 <Graky> hmm yeah 9 games with bad spells sounds kinda lame
20:30:15 <MekkisScreen> yeah
20:32:33 <Brunius> Isn't magic missile a level 1 spell?
20:47:05 <MekkisScreen> yes
20:47:16 <MekkisScreen> the problem is that a) it gets boring
20:47:34 <MekkisScreen> and b) the wizard sitting next to you is Always ahead of you
20:48:16 <MekkisScreen> I'm going to retrain Berknet
20:48:29 <MekkisScreen> his first level should have been fighter
21:03:44 <MekkisScreen> ..
21:04:05 <MekkisScreen> why does kapow expect me to respond to him at 5am in the morning?
21:04:19 <Brunius> Because Ballig and Avatar are up
21:04:36 <MekkisScreen> why are THEY up?
21:20:12 <Hydrazine> I shoulda been your daddy.
21:21:28 <MekkisScreen> what do you mean?
21:21:54 <Hydrazine> You know how sometimes random phrases from odd sources just stick in your head?
21:22:11 <MekkisScreen> then I'd have been american
21:22:18 <Hydrazine> "Should've been your daddy" was the title of a level in the original Halo.
21:22:34 <MekkisScreen> that crappy game
21:22:48 <Brunius> Which level
21:23:16 <MekkisScreen> level 1
21:23:24 <Hydrazine> You can talk all the smack you want about what happened to the franchise later, but the original Halo brought along a revolution to the FPS genre.
21:23:45 <MekkisScreen> what sort of revolution
21:24:16 <Hydrazine> Management and selection of weaponry. Before Halo, you could carry every frigging gun you ever saw, so you did.
21:24:28 <MekkisScreen> the "wow, people will actually put up with using a shitty controller rather than much more suitable keyboard and mouse"
21:24:49 <MekkisScreen> Hydrazine: incorrect. SoF1 had that years before
21:25:16 <Hydrazine> Halo made you CHOOSE which weapons you wanted to lug around, and you had to consider the pros and cons of them.
21:25:26 <MekkisScreen> like SoF1?
21:25:36 <MekkisScreen> or Rainbow 6
21:25:43 <Hydrazine> Shields/regenerating health. This lets players be more bold and agressive, instead of trying not to get nickel and dimed down before you find the next healthpack.
21:26:35 <Hydrazine> Rainbow 6, while cool, was not at all in the same genre. You could play the game without ever taking first person control and killing anyone yourself.
21:26:52 <MekkisScreen> I'm not convinced that that was a good thing, but I'm sure there's precedent for that too
21:27:45 <Hydrazine> And lastly, grenades. Do you rememebr what grenades in video games were like back then?
21:28:10 <MekkisScreen> ummm.. how are they different in halo?
21:28:12 <Hydrazine> You had to cycle through your weapons to select the grenades. Wait for all that animation to process. then you could think about throwing it. If you're still alive.
21:28:32 <MekkisScreen> ummm.. TFC had one-button grenading
21:28:43 <Hydrazine> You could throw grenades without changing weapons and waiting for bullshit.
21:29:15 <MekkisScreen> so did Metal Slug, and that's like a decade older
21:29:28 <MekkisScreen> but TFC is an FPS
21:30:28 <Hydrazine> SO what else did all three at once?
21:31:33 <Hydrazine> My point, is that you can draw a clear line from FPS games before Halo, and FPS games after Halo, and those three points are almost universal. It changed the genre.
21:31:42 <MekkisScreen> arguably, Freespace (1995) sis
21:31:44 <MekkisScreen> did
21:32:16 <MekkisScreen> TFC did 2/3
21:32:27 <MekkisScreen> (1998)
21:33:06 <Graky> what
21:33:12 <Graky> halo didnt event any of those
21:33:22 <Graky> it just made the genere popular and destroyed fpses
21:33:28 <Graky> half life>halo
21:33:36 <Graky> invent
21:33:36 <Graky> even
21:34:18 <MekkisScreen> I thought Counter Strike did more towards popularising the genre
21:34:29 <Graky> now you have 500 fps games with hide and regen to 100% hp mechanics with brown and bloom graphics that release a new title every 6 months that is no diffrent to the previous 3 games in the series
21:34:37 <MekkisScreen> Halo is where they started poisoning the genre
21:34:50 <Graky> go dl black mesa
21:34:54 <Graky> half life 1 remake
21:35:04 <Graky> and tell me its not better than every halo game
21:35:33 <MekkisScreen> halflife 1 is - although a good (not great) game - isn't something I'd want to replay
21:36:11 <Hydrazine> Why not?
21:36:48 <MekkisScreen> I found the story emminently shallow
21:39:07 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: you still haven't told me about Wed 3rd
21:39:23 <Brunius> I haven't, mainly because I forgot about it
21:42:10 <MekkisScreen> I'm thinking Citadel of Flame
21:42:42 <MekkisScreen> if you haven't played it
21:45:45 <kapow> if you like half life you should watch
21:45:48 <kapow> freemans mind
21:45:52 <kapow> it's fantastic :P
21:46:13 <kapow> it's like voice over commentary by a guy who has like the same voice as raymond from everybody loves raymond
21:46:17 <kapow> it's awesome!
21:48:34 <Brunius> I didn't like freeman's mind
21:57:46 <kapow> i think it's so good
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23:19:20 <spider21b> hey guys
23:19:40 <spider21b> when?
23:25:34 <Brunius> Next wednesday
23:25:53 <spider21b> cool
23:25:58 <spider21b> what is it in pst?
23:27:33 <Brunius> What time zone is pst?
23:27:37 <Brunius> It's 12am UTC
23:29:04 <MekkisScreen> no idea
23:29:31 <MekkisScreen> why don't you learn your UTC offset like everyone who's civilised
23:33:35 <kapow> google is your friend ?
23:33:48 <kapow> well mekkis i have dice now ^_^
23:34:03 <kapow> after this mornings adventure to the southside
23:34:47 <kapow> spent the morning until i was able to message you chilling ate the cafe above ace then proceeded to spend my money when they opened :/
23:35:19 <kapow> only place you've ever mentioned before so i went there was all i could remember XP so was like pretty sure it was somewhere southside i'll go there
23:35:25 <kapow> derp derp
23:39:41 <Brunius> Huh
23:39:55 <Brunius> The original DNF team want people to fund their new FPS
23:43:36 <kapow> dnf?
23:43:56 <Brunius> Duke Nukem Forever
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23:45:38 <kapow> did they start like a kick starter or something like that
23:45:40 <kapow> or just asking outright?
23:46:37 <Brunius> Looks like a kickstarter equivalent
23:46:41 <Brunius> But specifically for games
23:50:25 <MekkisScreen> Kapow, sending me a message at 5am is not going tohelp
23:51:01 <MekkisScreen> brunius, you really want to give the DNF team your money?
23:51:09 <Brunius> I didn't say that
23:52:27 <MekkisScreen> giving their track record of return on investment...
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