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04:32:57 <Avatar> :o)
04:44:16 <Avatar> Brunius: you still going to unicon?
04:44:26 <Brunius> Planning to
04:44:26 <Brunius> Why?
04:44:32 <Avatar> tristen is registered
04:44:37 <Avatar> I can never tell if you are or not
04:44:53 <Brunius> I need to pull the money up for it...
04:49:29 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should run something!
04:49:48 <Mekkis> GMs don't pay :S
04:52:36 <Avatar> oh really?
04:52:45 <Avatar> darkwhite didn't mention that
04:52:57 <Brunius> It's standard fare
04:53:13 <Brunius> Mekkis: I don't feel confident enough to run for a group of strangers in real life
04:53:18 <Brunius> Strangers on the internet? Maybe
04:53:22 <Mekkis> hehe
04:53:54 <Mekkis> (my first IRL DMing for strangers was at a con. Two cons in two weeks actually)
04:56:15 <Avatar> I GM'd in person after GMing online and I still find it much better online
04:56:34 <Avatar> I initially said no but I might GM a game if it's going to get me in for free
04:57:15 <Mekkis> cool
04:57:20 <Mekkis> then I won't have to :P
04:57:29 <Avatar> is that just for that one day or the whole con?
04:57:33 <Mekkis> not sure
04:57:37 <Mekkis> wow
04:57:42 <Avatar> you've done it before?
04:57:47 <Mekkis> one session uses 414MB
04:57:51 <Mekkis> yes, I have
04:57:57 <Avatar> so how do you not know
04:57:59 <Mekkis> but I never tried to not pay
04:58:15 <Avatar> am I missing something
04:58:19 <Mekkis> it was more "pay for everything, get dragged into GMing, not worry about trying to get the money back"
04:58:44 <Avatar> gotcha
05:00:48 <Mekkis> optus wants me to get a new phone
05:00:50 <Brunius> From what I've heard GMing gets you out of paying for that session
05:00:54 <Brunius> Get an android
05:01:01 <Mekkis> why?
05:01:09 <Brunius> Because then Avatar will stop bugging you
05:01:12 <Avatar> ahh that session
05:01:18 <Mekkis> show me an android with a qwerty keyboard and we'll talk
05:01:25 <Avatar> they all have qwerty keyboards
05:01:33 <Mekkis> not a touchscreen keyboard
05:01:58 <Avatar> what's wrong with a touchscreen qwerty keyboard
05:02:05 <Brunius> Samsung Captivate Glide
05:02:07 <Mekkis> I want the touchscreen to display stuff, not be covered by a keyboard
05:02:23 <Avatar> it only pops up when you need to type
05:02:33 <Mekkis> have you seen how I use my phone?
05:02:42 <Mekkis> I'm typing on it 95% of the time
05:02:47 <Avatar> yeah but when you get a touchscreen bar phone, you won't use it the same way
05:03:00 <Avatar> you adjust and wonder how you ever lived
05:03:16 <Avatar> I never wanted to go to any kind of qwerty keyboard phone, even a touchscreen
05:03:20 <Avatar> I wanted a bar phone with predictive text
05:03:30 <Avatar> I was lucky that swype came out when it did
05:03:32 <Mekkis> I'll still be using my phone to ssh into my servers
05:03:59 <Avatar> why? use an android app to ssh into your servers
05:04:32 <Mekkis> because sshing requires a lot of typing
05:04:44 <Avatar> that doesn't change anything
05:04:45 <Mekkis> and I don't want my terminal to be obscured with a keyboard
05:04:59 <Avatar> I dunno, I think you will think differently
05:05:04 <Avatar> I can play nethack comfortably
05:05:36 <Mekkis> I might just buy an N900 outright
05:06:36 <Mekkis> they're pretty cheap
05:06:50 <Mekkis> and are the Next Best Thing to my ideal phone
05:08:51 <Brunius> Arcanacon entry is open
05:08:56 <Mekkis> wow
05:08:56 <Brunius> I'm attendee #5!
05:10:26 <Avatar> #7
05:10:27 <Avatar> again
05:10:31 <Avatar> I'm so damn lucky
05:10:37 <Avatar> two 7's in a row ! what are the odds?
05:14:18 <Mekkis> I want N950
05:15:10 <Avatar> what you want is an android
05:15:12 <Avatar> you just don't know it yet
05:16:25 <Mekkis> I'll just get an N900 and use it to hack your phone
05:16:37 <Mekkis> or your PC - which would probably be easire
05:16:40 <Mekkis> easier even
05:16:50 <Avatar> cmon man
05:16:54 <Avatar> use your powers for good instead of evil
05:17:10 <Mekkis> and Android is a symbol of Good?
05:17:28 <Avatar> well yeah
05:17:33 <Mekkis> you sound as like a fanboi
05:17:51 <Avatar> look I detest apple but I would still take an iphone over a nokia
05:18:01 <Avatar> nokia is stone age man
05:18:04 <Avatar> you have to move with the times
05:18:09 <Avatar> you won't regret it
05:18:14 <Mekkis> nokia works
05:19:02 <Mekkis> time to cook dinner
05:20:07 <Mekkis> what do you have against Nokia?
05:20:32 <Mekkis> they're like the one phone company that does not want you to waste data and give them your personal information
05:21:36 <Mekkis> if it weren't for Nokia, DevCA wouldn't be around in its current incarnation
05:22:49 <Avatar> I don't think nokia is to thank for that
05:23:09 <Mekkis> really?
05:23:20 <Mekkis> DevCA uses the Qt framework
05:23:20 <Avatar> more you than nokia
05:23:46 <Mekkis> try googling it, look at the first result:
05:23:51 <Mekkis> Qt - Cross-platform application and UI framework — Qt - A cross ...
05:23:51 <Mekkis> qt.nokia.com/
05:24:00 <Avatar> you don't give yourself enough credit
05:25:48 <Mekkis> I did some of the development on a nokia!
05:27:00 <Avatar> you/I being the key word
05:27:23 <Mekkis> nokia owns the tools
05:28:23 <Mekkis> do you get out much for lunch now, Avatar?
05:28:50 <Avatar> no, I go and grab lunch and bring it back into work
05:29:02 <Avatar> they're actually flexible with everything except lunch
05:30:46 <Ballig> how much time do you get for lunch
05:31:21 <Mekkis> 60 minutes. Give or take
05:31:28 <Ballig> I meant Avatar
05:31:59 <Avatar> 30 minutes
05:32:10 <Avatar> it's weird though, because I can take breaks whenever I like through the day
05:32:17 <Avatar> as long as it doesnt' cross over into lunch breaks
05:32:22 <Ballig> they won't let you take longer, or it seems to be not allowed?
05:32:30 <Avatar> so lunchtime is restricted, but the rest of the day is flexible
05:32:39 <Avatar> I got told off for taking a full hour
05:32:49 <Ballig> that sucks
05:32:56 <Ballig> I usually only take half an hour, but I can take up to 2 hours if I want to
05:33:00 <Ballig> but I have flex time
05:33:02 <Avatar> I don't think my boss has actually thought it through
05:33:39 <Mekkis> Ballig, is applying for leave at a point in the future implicitly stating that you'll be around at that time?
05:34:28 <Ballig> will be around or won't be around?
05:34:39 <Ballig> oh, you mean applying for leave when you've applied for another job
05:34:39 <Mekkis> will still be working at that company
05:35:02 <Ballig> no, you're better off applying for the leave and then cancelling it if you get a job elsewhere
05:35:04 <Mekkis> yeah
05:35:12 <Ballig> better than sitting on it and giving them less notice of the leave if it turns out you're not going anywhere
05:36:06 <Mekkis> cool
05:36:06 <Avatar> here's a question, how the hell do you go for an interview when you still have a job
05:36:16 <Avatar> like everywhere only wants to interview you during work hours
05:36:16 <Mekkis> I should apply for arcanacon leave
05:36:23 <Mekkis> call in sick?
05:36:32 <Avatar> that's a bit of a shit thing to do isn't it
05:36:38 <Ballig> I use flex leave or other leave
05:36:47 <Avatar> annual leave?
05:37:00 <Ballig> that or you take a long lunch
05:37:01 <Mekkis> I do
05:37:03 <Ballig> I think most people take a long lunch
05:37:04 <Mekkis> if I can
05:37:10 <Ballig> very few interviews are long enough to require a full day
05:37:15 <Mekkis> but the problem is that they want four weeks notice
05:37:39 <Avatar> I think most businesses are aware that they need to give new people four weeks notice to leave their old job
05:37:55 <Ballig> he meant four weeks notice of taking annual leave
05:43:17 <Avatar> oh
05:49:27 <Brunius> Ha, apparently a significant vunerability was discovered in IE yesterday
05:49:38 <Avatar> just another day
05:49:44 <Brunius> Yeah
05:53:21 <Mekkis> cool
05:53:33 <Mekkis> that reminds me
05:53:45 <Mekkis> could you please visit my website using IE?
06:20:35 <Avatar> what's your website?
06:25:37 <Mekkis> http://mekkis-site-of-exploits.0day
06:38:41 <Mekkis> you should try the following: Install winXP with no service packs
06:39:01 <Mekkis> open IE6, and go to Gamecopyworld.com, and browse around a bit
06:39:06 <Mekkis> check your task list
06:45:09 <Avatar> I've found 4 players on a good scenario makes for a really solid game
06:45:15 <Ballig> yeah
06:45:25 <Avatar> a good scenario being one that doesn't destroy them
06:45:55 <kapow> lol
06:46:42 <Avatar> Steven: what are the odds of you playing in this sunday game
06:46:42 <kapow> I'd feel fairly comfortable with hydra,mort,graky and myself 4 manning fairly difficult campaigns
06:46:44 <Ballig> we should run darkest vengeance for no credit one day
06:46:51 <Avatar> haha
06:46:59 <Steven> bout three in four...
06:47:02 <kapow> i haven't played darkest vengeance give me credit ^_^
06:47:09 <Ballig> do you want to play it properly
06:47:10 <Avatar> when will you know for sure?
06:47:11 <Ballig> I'll run it for you
06:47:21 <Avatar> no I'll run it for you
06:47:24 <Steven> the day of, in the morning
06:47:26 <kapow> I'd like to play anything i haven't played properly
06:47:34 <Steven> and ill update my status once i know for sure.
06:47:36 <kapow> is it stupidly hard?
06:47:36 <Avatar> kapow do you know about this scenario
06:47:42 <kapow> not a clue
06:47:50 <kapow> is that the one thats renowned for tpk'ing?
06:47:51 <Avatar> it's unfair
06:47:54 <kapow> you guys mentioned once?
06:47:59 <Ballig> in the 1-2 subtier, the final encounter is suicide
06:48:01 <Avatar> death is guaranteed
06:48:09 <Ballig> not sure what the 4-5 subtier is like
06:48:20 <kapow> guaranteed huh?
06:48:23 <Avatar> Steven: the day of in the morning is when we start
06:48:32 <kapow> like just 1 is guaranteed or always gets multiple
06:48:33 <Ballig> it's like 95% you die or you run away
06:48:33 <Avatar> I'll keep you on as an alt if you won't be sure until then
06:48:36 <Steven> the morning for you guys, not the morning for me.
06:48:38 <Ballig> Bobbob survived it from luck
06:48:50 <Steven> its the afternoon for me.
06:49:00 <Avatar> oh so the night before
06:49:10 <Avatar> even that is pretty late
06:49:19 <Steven> its like 8hrs notice
06:49:20 <kapow> see now i am just curious about it :P
06:49:27 <Steven> maybe 10hr
06:49:29 <Avatar> yeah less than 24 to find a new person
06:49:39 <Avatar> in a period where I have to sleep :P
06:50:09 <Steven> best i can do right now, sadly Bill(my grandmas husband/fiance/boyfriend) doesn't make plans for shit
06:50:14 <kapow> wait what when where
06:50:17 <kapow> whats going on steven?
06:50:30 <Avatar> doesn't that give him second priority to your actual plans
06:50:51 <Avatar> that's the kind of thing that makes people make plans
06:51:04 <Avatar> otherwise shit you want to do doesn't end up happening because people don't show up to your shit
06:51:47 <Steven> yeah, sadly if i piss him off, he complains and whines to my grandma, and then she complains to me.
06:51:56 <kapow> I say we do a challenge game ballig
06:52:12 <Steven> and thats AFTER he whines at me for an hour or so
06:52:13 <Avatar> you mean you want him to run it
06:52:33 <kapow> well i mean after running it normally
06:52:33 <Steven> he really is a giant child w/ the way he acts ya know
06:52:36 <kapow> do a challenge day
06:52:42 <Avatar> do you live with him steven
06:52:52 <kapow> where anyone who has played it can bring any lvl 2 character just make one up as a lvl 2 character
06:52:56 <kapow> and try defeat it
06:53:03 <Avatar> kapow: it's the only scenario in PFS that people are okay to semi-spoil because of how dastardly it is
06:53:11 <Steven> yeah, im staying with my grandma and they live together
06:53:14 <kapow> so not as a legal scoring game
06:53:18 <Avatar> they retired a bunch of season 0 scenarios and somehow didn't retire this one
06:53:24 <Avatar> shit what did you do to my computer
06:53:48 <Mekkis> Taught you a lesson why you shouldn't use IE. Or Windows
06:53:49 <kapow> I think it'd be fun
06:54:03 <kapow> kinda like a QQ style game but for that scenario at lvl 2
06:54:31 <Avatar> you're still burning a scenario that could be okay in tier 4-5
06:54:47 <Avatar> the only good way to do that is to GM it for someone
06:54:47 <kapow> like i said after playing it properly
06:54:59 <Avatar> after playing it properly, you'll be dead
06:55:02 <Steven> Hey ive played Darkest vengeance
06:55:02 <kapow> i said run it properly for credit
06:55:06 <kapow> then do a challenge game
06:55:12 <Avatar> what tier steven
06:55:28 <Steven> 4-5
06:55:31 <Avatar> playing that scenario is a sort of rite of passage
06:55:33 <kapow> anyone die?
06:55:38 <Steven> nope
06:55:45 <Avatar> there you go
06:55:53 <Ballig> must be fine at 4-5
06:56:03 <kapow> so my alchemist is lvl 4 after sunday :P
06:56:24 <Steven> well... we had a pretty nasty group
06:56:31 <kapow> well most likely 4 after sunday unless we play 1-2
06:56:56 <Ballig> I'd have to read the scenario to see if it's okay at 4-5
06:57:01 <Ballig> I don't think I ever bought it
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06:58:48 <kapow> well i vote we run a darkest vengeance 4-5 game then have a darkest vengeance 2 challenge game
06:59:06 <kapow> where you can make any legal lvl 2 character you want and we take a party to try do it
07:00:01 <kapow> so you get no credit but if your character dies it doesn't matter cause it's not a real character
07:00:14 <kapow> but only people who have played it can participate in the lvl 2 one
07:00:39 <kapow> chronicle sheet must be supplied
07:01:10 <kapow> so people can't say i've played that play through with us then go else where n play it for credit
07:02:03 <kapow> thoughts ideas you lot?
07:02:22 <Ballig> generally it's hard to get people together to play a scenario that will just be scrapped at the end
07:02:27 <Ballig> when they could be playing a regular scenario instead
07:02:50 <kapow> I'm sure you'd have some takers
07:03:03 <kapow> play it like we use to play a normal 3.5e game
07:03:27 <kapow> find out a day when you can dm it and enough people can come
07:03:28 <Steven> alright back
07:03:31 <kapow> then set it for that day
07:03:31 <Ballig> a normal 3.5e was a continuing campaign with a character that existed from game to game
07:03:41 <Ballig> here you're talking about a character that exists for 5 hours and then you never see them again
07:03:52 <kapow> so kinda like QQ
07:04:00 <kapow> and you got plenty of people to play that each week?
07:04:02 <Ballig> very few people were interested in that
07:04:17 <kapow> we had 4-5 most weeks
07:04:44 <Steven> yeah i remember playing vengeance
07:05:22 <kapow> if we had a lvl 2 party try vengeance no death no credit would you make a lvl 2 character n play it
07:05:28 <kapow> to see if could beat the last fight?
07:05:43 <Steven> who here has played it before?
07:05:59 <kapow> not i but most else by the sounds of it
07:06:13 <kapow> would you play it though steven
07:06:45 <Ballig> Steven: Avatar, Brunius and myself
07:07:26 <kapow> if you could play it with any made lvl 2 character that is used only for that game would you play it for the challenge of seeing if you could beat the last fight?
07:07:34 <kapow> steven?
07:07:53 <Steven> meh... i dunno man, like ballig said its kind of sucky to make a char, have it exist for exactly 5 hours and gain no benefit off of it.
07:08:25 <kapow> see you people are strange
07:08:39 <kapow> to me thats what i call entertaining
07:09:10 <kapow> because it's a challenge
07:09:19 <Mekkis> Brunius, you around?
07:09:34 <Avatar> that scenario isn't a challenge
07:09:36 <Avatar> it's suicide
07:09:43 <Steven> how is it a challenge? it wasnt a challenge for my gunslinger the first time....
07:09:44 <kapow> not if you beat it :P
07:09:53 <Avatar> maybe at tier 4-5
07:09:54 <kapow> you played it at 4-5 though
07:10:05 <Mekkis> So, I look at the Suspeneded DCI members list, and it looks like there's someone with a DCI number that only has two different digits to mine, who lives in my state, who's suspended...
07:10:10 <Avatar> you've been given some warning now so it's like suicide-1
07:10:10 <kapow> we're talking 1-2 tier and with a lvl 2
07:10:19 <Steven> well... we basically cheated lol
07:10:30 <Avatar> how
07:10:41 <Avatar> shit
07:10:53 <Steven> ill send you a message so i dont give away things for kapow
07:11:35 <kapow> ty
07:16:48 <kapow> hey if i dm darkest vengeance and the people i dm for die would i still get full credit?
07:17:07 <Steven> yup
07:17:13 <Steven> one of the benefits of GMing
07:17:14 <kapow> damn
07:17:27 <kapow> i might dm darkest vengeance XP
07:17:35 <kapow> if it's as horrifying as people say
07:17:55 <kapow> which loot tier applies? whatever tier i gm for or whatever tier my chracter belongs to?
07:18:17 <Avatar> for you or the players?
07:18:25 <kapow> for gm
07:18:33 <Avatar> whatever tier your character belongs to
07:18:35 <kapow> i'm assuming the char being applied to
07:18:44 <Avatar> 1,2,3 is tier 1-2, 4,5 is tier 4-5
07:18:52 <kapow> what if players defeated it uptiered?
07:19:28 <Steven> you still only get to apply it to the correct tier, you dont get to uptier as well
07:21:04 <kapow> fair enough
07:23:34 <Steven> if you play a game with tier 1-2 and 4-5 and you apply it to a 3rd level character, you have to pick the lower tier
07:24:31 <kapow> ouch
07:24:45 <kapow> remind me to never play any 1-2 4-5 only games while lvl 3
07:25:24 <Steven> its so you cant set up situations and net more gold with zero risk
07:26:20 <Avatar> you don't have a choice man
07:26:26 <Avatar> what are you going to play at level 3
07:26:37 <Avatar> when you're playing you can choose 1-2 or 4-5
07:26:51 <Steven> Sorry i meant GMing
07:26:56 <Avatar> you just can't apply 4-5 GM credit onto a level 3 guy of your own
07:29:17 <kapow> I'd play a lvl 1 avatar
07:29:30 <kapow> or one of my alternate characters thats 1,2,4,5
07:29:48 <kapow> and if i only had a level 3 character n none of the others
07:29:55 <Avatar> you can reapply first steps credit onto any of your level 1s
07:29:59 <Avatar> repeatedly
07:29:59 <kapow> i'd play a pregen n apply it to a new character
07:30:00 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sun 23rd 9am (Avatar,tier 1-7) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
07:30:14 <Avatar> if you want to practise PFS GMing, first steps is very solid
07:30:44 <kapow> you understood what i meant by that avatar?
07:31:01 <Avatar> probably not you confuse me
07:31:10 <kapow> so if it's a 1-5 campaign n i had a lvl 1 and a lvl 3 i'd play the level 1 for 1-2
07:31:42 <kapow> if it was 4-5 we had to play thats a harder choice without a level 4 or 5
07:31:46 <Avatar> you mean apply credit to the 1 for 1-2
07:31:53 <Avatar> oh right
07:31:59 <kapow> yeah
07:32:16 <Avatar> with 1-5 that isn't a tough choice really
07:32:24 <Avatar> it's tougher when you look at 3-7 5-9 or 7-11
07:32:39 <kapow> i'm sure
07:32:52 <kapow> I think it's good knowing i'll be level 4 after next game
07:32:59 <kapow> i can make a new character
07:33:07 <kapow> n play it in the 1-2's
07:33:34 <kapow> i think i am going to try maintain a character to play in every bracket
07:33:46 <kapow> except 1-2
07:34:00 <Steven> yeah i was tryin that too, but i gave up on it
07:34:07 <kapow> lol
07:34:16 <kapow> i don't like coming to game thats like 1-7
07:34:17 <Steven> cause... some characters are just more fun to play then others
07:34:23 <kapow> and telling the gm i only have a lvl 3
07:34:23 <Avatar> you're level 4 already?
07:34:31 <kapow> 1 more game and i will be avatar
07:34:41 <Avatar> man what am I doing wrong
07:34:52 <kapow> not playing in mekkis's games
07:34:54 <Avatar> playing 5 different characters
07:35:09 <kapow> all my xp comes from you n mekkis bar 1
07:35:10 <Avatar> sparky, james, snickers, cairo and landruff
07:35:26 <Avatar> can change the time of that game if it's a problem
07:35:29 <kapow> and i have a lvl 1 with 2xp and 2xp waiting for him once he hits 4th
07:35:45 <Avatar> first steps
07:37:48 <Steven> I always keep like 4 level 1s on hand
07:38:59 <Avatar> yeah that is a mistake
07:40:00 <kapow> I only have 2 characters atm
07:40:22 <kapow> and i play to try limit the number of characters i have to the number of brackets i can play in
07:40:29 <kapow> unless i seriously fall in love with a character
07:40:54 <kapow> ps avatar are the dm resources for first steps free or are they one of pfs's cash cows?
07:41:35 <Brunius> ha
07:41:42 <Brunius> What's up, Mekkis
07:41:49 <Mekkis> that
07:43:38 <kapow> okay it is
07:43:40 <kapow> cool
07:43:52 <kapow> I might dm first steps sometime
07:44:23 <kapow> or maybe I'll volunteer to be like the first steps 1-2-3 gm bitch for awhile
07:44:36 <kapow> and run it on cycle once a month
07:44:54 <kapow> 1 weekend knock all 3 out 2 saturday 1 sunday something like that
07:45:19 <kapow> i dunno will think more on the matter
07:57:54 <Mekkis> what game?
07:59:02 <Avatar> didn't you get the email
07:59:16 <Mekkis> s/get the/check your/
07:59:40 <Avatar> it's before the dawn 1
07:59:43 <Mekkis> ah
07:59:48 <Avatar> oh, that's why you wouldn't have got it
07:59:53 <Avatar> my bad
08:00:10 <Graky> heh my hardcopy of PF rulebook came
08:00:14 <Graky> no search function irl
08:00:18 * Graky frowns
08:36:19 <Mekkis> are you two star yet?
08:36:47 <Graky> ah sweet, sunday game
08:36:53 <Graky> also, morning all
09:31:58 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 23rd 9am (Avatar,tier 1-7) || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
09:31:58 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Sep 19 07:30:10 2012
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09:37:59 <kapow> !throw 4#1d20+9
09:38:00 <diebot> kapow, 4#1d20+9: [1d20=1] 10, [1d20=5] 14, [1d20=5] 14, [1d20=1] 10
09:38:14 <kapow> wtf die bot :/
09:38:20 <kapow> 1/5/5/1
09:38:40 * kapow kicks diebot violently
09:49:11 <kapow> anyone know if you can apply multiple archetype classes to a base class
09:49:23 <kapow> if neither of the archetypes changes clash?
09:49:39 <Hydrazine> Yes, but only if the changes don't clash.
09:49:42 <Hydrazine> Most of the time they do.
09:52:05 <kapow> awesome!
09:52:41 <kapow> can you check test two hydra got a question for you
09:52:54 <Hydrazine> Shoot.
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14:10:10 <Steven> then i just gotta run a module on him and i get the super awesome level 14
14:10:32 <Steven> and the Exploit weakness class ability.... so good
14:10:48 <Steven> ignore DR, removes regen.... so good.
14:22:49 <Steven> I have two characters level 12 now...
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15:12:17 <Osahar> howdy all
15:12:47 <Osahar> howdy all
15:13:39 <Osahar> you there Mekkis?
15:16:18 <Avatar> yo
15:16:51 <Osahar> hello Avatar
15:16:57 <Avatar> spu
15:16:59 <Avatar> sup*
15:17:26 <Avatar> it's 5am where mekkis is
15:17:35 <Osahar> not much...do you know when Mekkis can usually be caught online? Ah, ok, that helps
15:17:43 <Avatar> what do you need
15:18:29 <Osahar> have a PFS game tonight, was hoping to get my record from Pallid Plague from Saturday before it starts
15:18:58 <Osahar> if not, not a big deal, but was unsure of when I could actually catch him
15:19:00 <Avatar> what tier did you play
15:19:16 <Avatar> subtier*
15:19:20 <Osahar> 4-5
15:20:33 <Avatar> it's a tier 1-7 scenario
15:20:37 <Avatar> it was either 3-4 or 6-7
15:20:54 <Avatar> (or 1-2)
15:21:24 <Osahar> my guess would be 3-4 then since I know we did not have the levels for a 6-7
15:21:46 <Avatar> you get 1494gp
15:22:34 <Osahar> great, thanks
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17:16:26 <kapow> mekkis are the chronicles done from sunday
17:16:28 <kapow> i still need mines
17:17:34 <Mekkis> not yet, I've been busy
17:17:36 <Avatar> yo
17:17:57 <Avatar> already have 4-5 acceptances to that game after being up for only 8 hours
17:17:58 <kapow> avatar i think i finally decided on the sniper build :P
17:18:05 <kapow> I was 4th
17:18:11 <Avatar> christ
17:18:14 <kapow> i just redid mine because i forgot to leave a note
17:18:42 <Avatar> you declined
17:18:52 <Avatar> oh, you redid it now
17:19:08 <kapow> atm 1 and 3 but got game saturday and both characters are 1 xp off level so will be either 2 & 3 or 1 & 4
17:19:14 <kapow> refresh it
17:19:17 <Avatar> looks like a subtier 3-4 game
17:19:22 <kapow> you can't leave a comment without declining and re-accepting
17:19:30 <Avatar> yeah I just have really good timing it turns out
17:19:41 <kapow> might be something to change for the website?
17:19:52 <Avatar> yeah ballig, take note
17:19:55 <kapow> make it so you can add or remove a comment seperatly
17:20:29 <kapow> not a big thing but it does get annoying having to decline re select character levels and shit
17:20:35 <kapow> then you forget to tick the box anyway
17:20:41 <kapow> so have to do it again
17:20:54 <Avatar> all the feedback I give ballig aren't big things
17:20:57 <Avatar> and yet they change lives
17:21:36 <Avatar> I think wraith had intended on putting in more than 'dwarf cleric,' on his 3 character comment
17:23:30 <kapow> i think Graky's barbarian is going to be rich :/
17:23:36 <Avatar> why
17:23:39 <kapow> like every game it's had it's up tiered
17:23:47 <Avatar> good on him
17:23:51 <kapow> it's played 2/2 games in 3-4
17:23:54 <Avatar> that will bite him back one day no doubt
17:24:10 <kapow> he hasn't had much choice so far :/
17:24:12 <Avatar> is he spending the money
17:24:21 <kapow> i dunno
17:24:31 <Avatar> the choice is to find someone running a scenario in the right tier
17:24:38 <Avatar> bit hard with the 1-7s granted
17:24:41 <kapow> more to the point i dunno what he'd spend it on after getting a + 1 wep and + 1 armour
17:24:57 <Avatar> a +1 weap and +1 armor isn't always the first thing you buy
17:24:58 <Mekkis> wait for prestige to pile up
17:25:06 <kapow> exactly
17:25:09 <Avatar> getting scrolls for your resident wizard is a smart idea
17:25:10 <Mekkis> +1 weapon is if you're a fighter :S
17:25:25 <kapow> he's a barb right so +1 wep is still
17:25:31 <Avatar> not necessarily if you're a level 1 fighter
17:25:36 <Mekkis> otherwise, exotic materials
17:25:52 <Avatar> what's he going to do, end his turn next to an enemy.....?
17:26:10 <kapow> i dunno
17:26:11 <Mekkis> of course
17:26:17 <Mekkis> he's a melee fighter
17:26:19 <Mekkis> they all do that
17:26:23 <Avatar> the anti rogue argument you like
17:26:37 <kapow> hey you leave my sniper out of this :P
17:26:42 <Mekkis> yeah, but he has lots of HP and wears medium armour
17:26:49 <Avatar> not at level 1
17:26:55 <kapow> he has a but load of hp for a level 1
17:26:58 <Mekkis> have you SEEN his HP?
17:27:01 <Mekkis> it's like 19
17:27:03 <Avatar> yeah for a level 1
17:27:03 <kapow> he has like the same hp as my alchemist at lvl 3
17:27:09 <Avatar> but in a tier 3-4 or 4-5
17:27:11 <Avatar> well
17:27:13 <Avatar> think twice
17:27:16 <Avatar> that's all I can say
17:27:17 <Avatar> think twice
17:27:18 * Mekkis draws a card
17:27:28 * Mekkis draws another card after paying 2U
17:27:38 <Avatar> what are you doing
17:27:39 <Avatar> tarot
17:27:58 <Mekkis> Think Twice {1U} |Instant| Draw a carrrd. / Flashback 2U · ISD-C,ISD-IP,TSP-C,Vin,Leg,Mod,Ext,Std,Cla,ISDBC,NewStd,TSPBC
17:28:11 <Avatar> don't think that's what I meant
17:28:17 <kapow> so yeah avatar my sniper is going to be Fighter 2, Rogue 3, Inner Sea Pirate 1, Master Spy 1, Rogue 4
17:28:39 <kapow> and going to make that seperate gunslinger build we ended up with
17:28:41 <Mekkis> I thought you needed to be 7th level to qualify for Master Spy
17:28:42 <kapow> without extra grit :P
17:28:53 <Avatar> rogue 3 rogue 4?
17:28:55 <kapow> that is 7th level
17:29:00 <kapow> the order
17:29:03 <kapow> 2 levels of fighter
17:29:07 <kapow> 3 levels of rogue
17:29:12 <Avatar> man seriously I wish you the best
17:29:13 <kapow> 1 level in inner sea pirate
17:29:15 <Mekkis> don't you need 7 ranks in something?
17:29:15 <Avatar> but I can't see how that will work
17:29:28 <Mekkis> so you won't be able to qualify until you already have the 7 ranks
17:29:34 <Mekkis> (so you'll need to take it at 8th)
17:29:43 <kapow> let me find it for you
17:29:51 * Mekkis plays a Master Spy
17:30:10 <Mekkis> yeah
17:30:13 <Avatar> why do they call it master spy and not just spy
17:30:17 <Mekkis> Bluff/Disguise 7 ranks
17:30:18 <kapow> no i mean the resources bit
17:30:35 <Mekkis> so you can't take it until your eighth level
17:30:41 <kapow> there is a part which says you need -3 on the requirements for it and lion blade
17:30:56 <Mekkis> this is APG
17:30:58 <Mekkis> you wouldn't
17:31:06 <Avatar> yeah mekkis is right
17:31:09 <Mekkis> APG is already Pathfinder
17:31:29 <Avatar> er, can't you take it at 7th level
17:31:41 <Avatar> do you already need the ranks on your character to be that prestige class?
17:31:47 <kapow> well no biggy take it at 8th
17:31:55 <Avatar> I thought you could tack them on when you get to the prestige class level
17:31:58 <Mekkis> no
17:32:07 <Avatar> are you certain
17:32:13 <Avatar> I will check that I think
17:32:20 <Avatar> doesn't sound right
17:33:48 <kapow> !throw 1d20+19
17:33:51 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+19: [1d20=15] 34
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17:35:26 <Panda> how much damage did i do ^_^?
17:35:37 <Avatar> can change the time of that game if it's a problem
17:35:41 * Panda waits for kapow to time out
17:36:17 <Panda> !throw 2d6+6d6+1d6+4+1+6+5
17:36:18 <diebot> Panda, 2d6+6d6+1d6+4+1+6+5: [2d6=4,4; 6d6=3,3,4,4,2,3; 1d6=2] 45
17:36:32 <Panda> and then bleed for another 36 damage ovver 6 rounds
17:58:05 <Mekkis> what game?
17:59:13 <Avatar> didn't you get the email
17:59:27 <Mekkis> s/get the/check your/
17:59:50 <Avatar> it's before the dawn 1
17:59:54 <Mekkis> ah
17:59:58 <Avatar> oh, that's why you wouldn't have got it
18:00:04 <Avatar> my bad
18:36:30 <Mekkis> are you two star yet?
18:36:57 <Graky> ah sweet, sunday game
18:37:04 <Graky> also, morning all
22:10:59 <kapow> !throw 1d20+5 mort hides in bush
22:11:00 <diebot> kapow, mort hides in bush: [1d20=4] 9
22:11:26 <kapow> !throw 1d20+37
22:11:27 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+37: [1d20=1] 38
22:17:55 <Hydrazine> IDENTIFY
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22:43:25 <Mekkis> kapow, you should join us for in-person Pathfinder
22:43:38 <Mekkis> next Wednesday
22:45:09 <Mekkis> wesnoth
22:46:09 <kapow> next wednesday
22:46:28 <kapow> I only have pdf's and no printer atm :=(
22:46:36 <kapow> and no laptop
22:47:17 <Mekkis> that's fine
22:47:27 <kapow> would have to bring like a character sheet with everything written on it
22:47:34 <kapow> and actually find my dice :/
22:47:37 <Mekkis> unless you're using obscure items from Adventure Paths
22:47:45 <kapow> that'll probably be the hardest thing
22:47:47 <Mekkis> if you want, I can print your character sheet
22:47:50 <kapow> finding my dice
22:48:01 <Mekkis> they do sell dice, for instance
22:48:02 <kapow> what are you guys playing?
22:48:05 <kapow> and at what level?
22:48:27 <Mekkis> they're running #4-01 Rise of the Goblin Guild (1-5) and #3-something Something Else Goblin-Related (1-5)
22:48:44 <kapow> short of cash atm bought 2 ultimate equipment and adeventurers armoury on the weekend and no work atm
22:48:47 <Mekkis> I'll be playing in Rise of the Goblin Guild
22:48:52 <kapow> so gotta save what cash i can :P
22:49:03 <Mekkis> you CAN scam dice of people
22:49:15 <kapow> sweet i'll come n play in your game :P
22:49:59 <kapow> I might try print off a character sheet or 2 somewhere between now and monday and let you know if i need ya to print mine for me monday
22:50:34 <kapow> because after saturday and sundays game my characters will most likely be different
22:50:37 <Mekkis> sure. hell, if you SMS me at work, I can probably print it off as late as 5:30 on Wednesday
22:50:42 <Mekkis> no problem
22:51:11 <Mekkis> do you want me to bring your chronicle sheets - printed on genuine imitation parchment too?
22:51:27 <kapow> omfg
22:51:31 <kapow> that would be badass!
22:51:44 <kapow> I even have a nice folder i can keep them in safely :D
22:52:07 <kapow> just compressed all my important stuff like taxfile n uni application acceptance letters and passport all that into 1 nice file
22:52:14 <Mekkis> I suggest Marbig Bindermate Display books
22:53:05 <Mekkis> Darkwhite uses them, so that's good enough for me.
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22:58:25 <kapow> i just got some sleaved folders
23:15:14 <tashphones> Not my bush! D:
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23:19:06 <Steven> what up peeps
23:19:20 <N2H4> My download speeds!
23:20:47 <Steven> me gusta!
23:21:30 <Steven> i dont think i can come to the game, but methinks i already played it.
23:21:55 <Brunius> Steven!
23:22:16 <Steven> i dont care what that lying whore said i didnt do it
23:22:53 <Steven> oh awesome, i havent played it...
23:23:02 <kapow> anyone here play gw2?
23:23:05 <Steven> let me see saturday at 4pm...
23:23:21 <Steven> When im back home i plan on buying it.
23:28:13 <Steven> there i signed up for the game, hopefully i can play!
23:28:56 <Steven> so what up guys
23:29:14 <Brunius> It's Wednesday, which means it's time for me to consume an entire block of chocolate
23:29:39 <Brunius> kapow: Despite people continually telling me I should, I don't.
23:29:51 <Steven> ah... sounds... unhealthy...
23:29:57 <Brunius> pfft
23:30:05 <Brunius> I'm 15, it can't be unhealthy
23:30:12 <Steven> yeah....
23:30:14 <Steven> bout that...
23:31:00 <Steven> so anybody got any questions about pfs?
23:31:12 <Steven> im bored waiting for my girl to get off work
23:31:44 <Brunius> Not about pfs, but about DCI numbers
23:31:59 <Steven> dude, send them an email.
23:32:05 <Brunius> I did.
23:32:22 <Steven> did you get a response with instructions or was it along the lines of 'sucks to be you'
23:32:23 <Brunius> They shifted me through 2-3 departments before telling me that they didn't know what was wrong.
23:32:33 <Steven> then call them.
23:32:42 <Brunius> International call?
23:33:23 <Steven> oh yeah.... you in aust...
23:33:36 <Steven> well... how much do you have invested in that DCI number?
23:33:46 <Graky> you guys ever ran your own custom module/campagin?
23:34:55 <Brunius> One sealed.
23:35:19 <Brunius> ie not much
23:35:24 <Steven> have you tried signing up for another one, one sealed is nothing in the long run
23:35:35 <Brunius> Not yet
23:36:11 <Steven> okay, when you went and signed up at the event
23:36:28 <Steven> they gave you a form and you filled it out right?
23:36:32 <Steven> did they send the card in?
23:36:45 <Brunius> Don't know, I should probably call them and ask
23:36:52 <Brunius> I've been meaning to for a while
23:37:07 <Steven> yes, thats the first step.
23:37:52 <Steven> if they havent sent it in, then your DCI card wouldnt be valid
23:43:01 <kapow> it's not that bad brun
23:43:36 <kapow> I don't think it's legal for organized play in pfs
23:44:06 <kapow> but mekkis/avatar/ballig and i have all ran 3.5e campaigns as far as i know
23:44:15 <kapow> both premade and i believe custom
23:44:16 <Steven> also it can take a couple weeks to get through the system.
23:44:19 <kapow> if not in here in real life
23:44:36 <Brunius> It should have gone in at the M13 prerelease
23:44:48 <Steven> IF they sent it in yet.
23:45:10 <Brunius> Should.
23:45:19 <Steven> should does not mean has
23:45:25 <Steven> you know this....
23:50:01 <Brunius> Yeah, Windows, take that!
23:50:10 <Brunius> Take that activation to the FACE
23:51:33 <Steven> I wish i could play Ausk...
23:52:00 <Steven> i need to go to another convention
23:52:08 <Steven> do a 12+ special
23:52:41 <Steven> get me level 13
23:53:58 <Steven> and some 5th level spells
23:54:01 <tashphones2> Hay kapow!
23:54:44 <kapow> hey ^_^
23:56:15 <tashphones2> Oh yeah. My dh guy wasn't too keen to host an online game.
23:56:20 * tashphones2 sad
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