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00:17:45 <spider21b> idk thunder otter is fun i just want a bit of power to my mele
00:17:57 <spider21b> and spells dont do much unless my beef me up
00:18:43 <Steven> dunno man, spells add more versatility then JUST hp damage
00:21:30 <Steven> if you kick the animal companion you could get the Growth subdomain of plant
00:21:34 <Steven> for a swift enlarge
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01:23:58 <Steven> DOOPY DOOPY!
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01:51:59 <spider21b> gotcha
01:53:09 <Steven> got me what?
01:53:28 <Steven> im hoping its some hookers and blow
01:55:18 <spider21b> what are you talking about
01:55:18 <spider21b> ?
01:56:56 <Steven> gotcha means i got you
01:57:00 <Steven> so im wonder what you got me
01:57:06 <Steven> im hoping its hookers and blow
02:03:58 <spider21b> um noo...
02:04:16 <Steven> sad panda
02:08:02 <spider21b> ok...?
02:08:28 <Steven> im bored... they went to bed
02:08:49 <Steven> so now its just me all alone in the living room
02:09:18 <spider21b> gotcha
02:09:40 <spider21b> so, i got this gunslinger character maybe you can help me make a backround for him or my ranger?
02:09:52 <Steven> sure
02:10:13 <Steven> let me guess, gunslinger is a loner dick
02:10:20 <spider21b> hold on let me get my mythweavers
02:10:29 <spider21b> na my gunslinger things he is the son of a god
02:10:37 <spider21b> and he an asamer
02:10:50 <spider21b> http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=444495
02:11:22 <spider21b> law bringer type with the halo and everything
02:11:47 <spider21b> also i have a Tieflings (Faultspawn) ranger
02:12:00 <spider21b> named pow Voren the second
02:12:14 <spider21b> so i figure they would hate each others guts
02:12:43 <spider21b> now i got the asamer kinda outlined but the tifling not sou much
02:14:29 <Steven> maths is hard huh?
02:14:48 <spider21b> yep
02:14:59 <Steven> the aasimar is at an 18 point buy
02:15:05 <Steven> you can place 2 more points
02:15:10 <spider21b> it should be 20 point buy
02:15:23 <spider21b> http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetview.php?sheetid=444507
02:15:33 <spider21b> other guy
02:16:50 <spider21b> wait could i change his dex to 18?
02:21:17 <spider21b> brb
02:30:27 <Steven> making backstories are very personal, i could add depth to a pre-existing story but not make up a whole new one, because you would go through and change it all to suit your needs
02:34:17 <Steven> my cousin rachel just unfriended me on facebook because i was teasing her...
02:34:39 <Steven> some people just cant take a joke.
02:38:28 <Steven> now imma have to eat all my moms cookies shes making instead of sending some down to her! *evil laugh*
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02:56:53 <spider21b> back
02:58:24 <Steven> making backstories are very personal, i could add depth to a pre-existing story but not make up a whole new one, because you would go through and change it all to suit your needs
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03:02:48 <Avatar> yeah nobody should make a backstory but you
03:03:13 <Avatar> otherwise it is pointless to have one
03:46:08 <spider21b> this is ture
03:47:45 <spider21b> pow Voren the second and shane used to be best freinds before each found out that they work for differnt sides
04:32:57 <Avatar> :o)
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05:12:06 <Osahar> howdy all
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05:12:36 <Osahar> howdy all
05:13:28 <Osahar> you there Mekkis?
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05:16:07 <Avatar> yo
05:16:41 <Osahar> hello Avatar
05:16:47 <Avatar> spu
05:16:48 <Avatar> sup*
05:17:16 <Avatar> it's 5am where mekkis is
05:17:24 <Osahar> not much...do you know when Mekkis can usually be caught online? Ah, ok, that helps
05:17:33 <Avatar> what do you need
05:18:18 <Osahar> have a PFS game tonight, was hoping to get my record from Pallid Plague from Saturday before it starts
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05:18:47 <Osahar> if not, not a big deal, but was unsure of when I could actually catch him
05:18:50 <Avatar> what tier did you play
05:19:05 <Avatar> subtier*
05:19:10 <Osahar> 4-5
05:20:22 <Avatar> it's a tier 1-7 scenario
05:20:27 <Avatar> it was either 3-4 or 6-7
05:20:44 <Avatar> (or 1-2)
05:21:14 <Osahar> my guess would be 3-4 then since I know we did not have the levels for a 6-7
05:21:36 <Avatar> you get 1494gp
05:22:23 <Osahar> great, thanks
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09:35:58 <kapow> !roll 1d10+2d6+1d6+4+4
09:36:07 <kapow> !throw 1d10+2d6+1d6+4+4
09:36:07 <diebot> kapow, 1d10+2d6+1d6+4+4: [1d10=10; 2d6=1,5; 1d6=5] 29
09:37:59 <kapow> !throw 4#1d20+9
09:38:00 <diebot> kapow, 4#1d20+9: [1d20=1] 10, [1d20=5] 14, [1d20=5] 14, [1d20=1] 10
09:38:14 <kapow> wtf die bot :/
09:38:20 <kapow> 1/5/5/1
09:38:40 * kapow kicks diebot violently
09:49:11 <kapow> anyone know if you can apply multiple archetype classes to a base class
09:49:23 <kapow> if neither of the archetypes changes clash?
09:49:39 <Hydrazine> Yes, but only if the changes don't clash.
09:49:42 <Hydrazine> Most of the time they do.
09:52:05 <kapow> awesome!
09:52:41 <kapow> can you check test two hydra got a question for you
09:52:54 <Hydrazine> Shoot.
15:12:17 <Osahar> howdy all
15:12:47 <Osahar> howdy all
15:13:39 <Osahar> you there Mekkis?
15:16:18 <Avatar> yo
15:16:51 <Osahar> hello Avatar
15:16:57 <Avatar> spu
15:16:59 <Avatar> sup*
15:17:26 <Avatar> it's 5am where mekkis is
15:17:35 <Osahar> not much...do you know when Mekkis can usually be caught online? Ah, ok, that helps
15:17:43 <Avatar> what do you need
15:18:29 <Osahar> have a PFS game tonight, was hoping to get my record from Pallid Plague from Saturday before it starts
15:18:58 <Osahar> if not, not a big deal, but was unsure of when I could actually catch him
15:19:00 <Avatar> what tier did you play
15:19:16 <Avatar> subtier*
15:19:20 <Osahar> 4-5
15:20:33 <Avatar> it's a tier 1-7 scenario
15:20:37 <Avatar> it was either 3-4 or 6-7
15:20:54 <Avatar> (or 1-2)
15:21:24 <Osahar> my guess would be 3-4 then since I know we did not have the levels for a 6-7
15:21:46 <Avatar> you get 1494gp
15:22:34 <Osahar> great, thanks
18:38:10 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times! | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
18:38:10 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Sep 16 18:44:04 2012
18:38:10 <***> Buffer Playback...
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18:44:05 <Avatar> Brunius: you still going to unicon?
18:44:15 <Brunius> Planning to
18:44:16 <Brunius> Why?
18:44:22 <Avatar> tristen is registered
18:44:27 <Avatar> I can never tell if you are or not
18:44:43 <Brunius> I need to pull the money up for it...
18:49:18 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should run something!
18:49:37 <Mekkis> GMs don't pay :S
18:52:25 <Avatar> oh really?
18:52:34 <Avatar> darkwhite didn't mention that
18:52:46 <Brunius> It's standard fare
18:53:03 <Brunius> Mekkis: I don't feel confident enough to run for a group of strangers in real life
18:53:08 <Brunius> Strangers on the internet? Maybe
18:53:11 <Mekkis> hehe
18:53:43 <Mekkis> (my first IRL DMing for strangers was at a con. Two cons in two weeks actually)
18:56:04 <Avatar> I GM'd in person after GMing online and I still find it much better online
18:56:24 <Avatar> I initially said no but I might GM a game if it's going to get me in for free
18:57:04 <Mekkis> cool
18:57:09 <Mekkis> then I won't have to :P
18:57:18 <Avatar> is that just for that one day or the whole con?
18:57:22 <Mekkis> not sure
18:57:26 <Mekkis> wow
18:57:31 <Avatar> you've done it before?
18:57:37 <Mekkis> one session uses 414MB
18:57:40 <Mekkis> yes, I have
18:57:46 <Avatar> so how do you not know
18:57:48 <Mekkis> but I never tried to not pay
18:58:05 <Avatar> am I missing something
18:58:09 <Mekkis> it was more "pay for everything, get dragged into GMing, not worry about trying to get the money back"
18:58:34 <Avatar> gotcha
19:00:37 <Mekkis> optus wants me to get a new phone
19:00:40 <Brunius> From what I've heard GMing gets you out of paying for that session
19:00:43 <Brunius> Get an android
19:00:50 <Mekkis> why?
19:00:59 <Brunius> Because then Avatar will stop bugging you
19:01:01 <Avatar> ahh that session
19:01:07 <Mekkis> show me an android with a qwerty keyboard and we'll talk
19:01:14 <Avatar> they all have qwerty keyboards
19:01:22 <Mekkis> not a touchscreen keyboard
19:01:48 <Avatar> what's wrong with a touchscreen qwerty keyboard
19:01:54 <Brunius> Samsung Captivate Glide
19:01:56 <Mekkis> I want the touchscreen to display stuff, not be covered by a keyboard
19:02:12 <Avatar> it only pops up when you need to type
19:02:23 <Mekkis> have you seen how I use my phone?
19:02:31 <Mekkis> I'm typing on it 95% of the time
19:02:37 <Avatar> yeah but when you get a touchscreen bar phone, you won't use it the same way
19:02:50 <Avatar> you adjust and wonder how you ever lived
19:03:07 <Avatar> I never wanted to go to any kind of qwerty keyboard phone, even a touchscreen
19:03:10 <Avatar> I wanted a bar phone with predictive text
19:03:19 <Avatar> I was lucky that swype came out when it did
19:03:21 <Mekkis> I'll still be using my phone to ssh into my servers
19:03:49 <Avatar> why? use an android app to ssh into your servers
19:04:21 <Mekkis> because sshing requires a lot of typing
19:04:33 <Avatar> that doesn't change anything
19:04:34 <Mekkis> and I don't want my terminal to be obscured with a keyboard
19:04:49 <Avatar> I dunno, I think you will think differently
19:04:54 <Avatar> I can play nethack comfortably
19:05:25 <Mekkis> I might just buy an N900 outright
19:06:25 <Mekkis> they're pretty cheap
19:06:39 <Mekkis> and are the Next Best Thing to my ideal phone
19:08:41 <Brunius> Arcanacon entry is open
19:08:45 <Mekkis> wow
19:08:46 <Brunius> I'm attendee #5!
19:10:15 <Avatar> #7
19:10:16 <Avatar> again
19:10:20 <Avatar> I'm so damn lucky
19:10:27 <Avatar> two 7's in a row ! what are the odds?
19:14:07 <Mekkis> I want N950
19:14:59 <Avatar> what you want is an android
19:15:02 <Avatar> you just don't know it yet
19:16:14 <Mekkis> I'll just get an N900 and use it to hack your phone
19:16:26 <Mekkis> or your PC - which would probably be easire
19:16:29 <Mekkis> easier even
19:16:40 <Avatar> cmon man
19:16:43 <Avatar> use your powers for good instead of evil
19:16:59 <Mekkis> and Android is a symbol of Good?
19:17:17 <Avatar> well yeah
19:17:22 <Mekkis> you sound as like a fanboi
19:17:40 <Avatar> look I detest apple but I would still take an iphone over a nokia
19:17:50 <Avatar> nokia is stone age man
19:17:53 <Avatar> you have to move with the times
19:17:58 <Avatar> you won't regret it
19:18:04 <Mekkis> nokia works
19:18:51 <Mekkis> time to cook dinner
19:19:56 <Mekkis> what do you have against Nokia?
19:20:21 <Mekkis> they're like the one phone company that does not want you to waste data and give them your personal information
19:21:25 <Mekkis> if it weren't for Nokia, DevCA wouldn't be around in its current incarnation
19:22:39 <Avatar> I don't think nokia is to thank for that
19:22:58 <Mekkis> really?
19:23:09 <Mekkis> DevCA uses the Qt framework
19:23:10 <Avatar> more you than nokia
19:23:35 <Mekkis> try googling it, look at the first result:
19:23:40 <Mekkis> Qt - Cross-platform application and UI framework — Qt - A cross ...
19:23:40 <Mekkis> qt.nokia.com/
19:23:49 <Avatar> you don't give yourself enough credit
19:25:37 <Mekkis> I did some of the development on a nokia!
19:26:50 <Avatar> you/I being the key word
19:27:12 <Mekkis> nokia owns the tools
19:28:12 <Mekkis> do you get out much for lunch now, Avatar?
19:28:39 <Avatar> no, I go and grab lunch and bring it back into work
19:28:51 <Avatar> they're actually flexible with everything except lunch
19:30:35 <Ballig> how much time do you get for lunch
19:31:10 <Mekkis> 60 minutes. Give or take
19:31:17 <Ballig> I meant Avatar
19:31:48 <Avatar> 30 minutes
19:32:00 <Avatar> it's weird though, because I can take breaks whenever I like through the day
19:32:06 <Avatar> as long as it doesnt' cross over into lunch breaks
19:32:12 <Ballig> they won't let you take longer, or it seems to be not allowed?
19:32:19 <Avatar> so lunchtime is restricted, but the rest of the day is flexible
19:32:29 <Avatar> I got told off for taking a full hour
19:32:38 <Ballig> that sucks
19:32:45 <Ballig> I usually only take half an hour, but I can take up to 2 hours if I want to
19:32:50 <Ballig> but I have flex time
19:32:51 <Avatar> I don't think my boss has actually thought it through
19:33:28 <Mekkis> Ballig, is applying for leave at a point in the future implicitly stating that you'll be around at that time?
19:34:18 <Ballig> will be around or won't be around?
19:34:28 <Mekkis> will still be working at that company
19:34:30 <Ballig> oh, you mean applying for leave when you've applied for another job
19:34:51 <Ballig> no, you're better off applying for the leave and then cancelling it if you get a job elsewhere
19:34:53 <Mekkis> yeah
19:35:02 <Ballig> better than sitting on it and giving them less notice of the leave if it turns out you're not going anywhere
19:35:55 <Mekkis> cool
19:35:56 <Avatar> here's a question, how the hell do you go for an interview when you still have a job
19:36:05 <Mekkis> I should apply for arcanacon leave
19:36:05 <Avatar> like everywhere only wants to interview you during work hours
19:36:11 <Mekkis> call in sick?
19:36:22 <Avatar> that's a bit of a shit thing to do isn't it
19:36:28 <Ballig> I use flex leave or other leave
19:36:36 <Avatar> annual leave?
19:36:49 <Ballig> that or you take a long lunch
19:36:50 <Mekkis> I do
19:36:52 <Ballig> I think most people take a long lunch
19:36:53 <Mekkis> if I can
19:36:59 <Ballig> very few interviews are long enough to require a full day
19:37:04 <Mekkis> but the problem is that they want four weeks notice
19:37:28 <Avatar> I think most businesses are aware that they need to give new people four weeks notice to leave their old job
19:37:44 <Ballig> he meant four weeks notice of taking annual leave
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19:43:07 <Avatar> oh
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19:49:17 <Brunius> Ha, apparently a significant vunerability was discovered in IE yesterday
19:49:28 <Avatar> just another day
19:49:33 <Brunius> Yeah
19:53:10 <Mekkis> cool
19:53:22 <Mekkis> that reminds me
19:53:34 <Mekkis> could you please visit my website using IE?
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20:20:25 <Avatar> what's your website?
20:25:26 <Mekkis> http://mekkis-site-of-exploits.0day
20:38:30 <Mekkis> you should try the following: Install winXP with no service packs
20:38:50 <Mekkis> open IE6, and go to Gamecopyworld.com, and browse around a bit
20:38:55 <Mekkis> check your task list
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20:53:13 <Avatar> shit what did you do to my computer
20:53:37 <Mekkis> Taught you a lesson why you shouldn't use IE. Or Windows
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21:09:08 <Mekkis> Brunius, you around?
21:09:54 <Mekkis> So, I look at the Suspeneded DCI members list, and it looks like there's someone with a DCI number that only has two different digits to mine, who lives in my state, who's suspended...
21:10:30 <Avatar> shit
21:41:24 <Brunius> ha
21:41:31 <Brunius> What's up, Mekkis
21:41:38 <Mekkis> that
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21:59:59 <Graky> heh my hardcopy of PF rulebook came
22:00:03 <Graky> no search function irl
22:00:07 * Graky frowns
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22:10:59 <kapow> !throw 1d20+5 mort hides in bush
22:11:00 <diebot> kapow, mort hides in bush: [1d20=4] 9
22:11:26 <kapow> !throw 1d20+37
22:11:27 <diebot> kapow, 1d20+37: [1d20=1] 38
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22:17:55 <Hydrazine> IDENTIFY
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22:19:10 <spider21b> true
22:19:17 <Steven> well as a Deinonychus you get to pounce at shit
22:20:16 <Steven> two claws and a bite attack
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22:20:55 <Steven> as George Takei would say "Oh Myyy...."
22:22:14 <spider21b> xd
22:22:34 <Steven> plesiosaur=Elasmosaurus in pfs pretty much
22:22:36 <Hydrazine> 3 attacks a round generally beats 1 attack a round.
22:22:46 <spider21b> this is true
22:22:58 <Hydrazine> Except in rare cases where that one attack is pretty spectacular.
22:23:25 <Steven> even with one attack thats amazing you are gonna miss with that one attack
22:23:28 <Hydrazine> I remember the time my party ran into a tiger.
22:23:31 <Steven> sometimes
22:23:35 <Hydrazine> We got wrecked so fast it was crazy.
22:23:36 <spider21b> xd
22:23:48 <Hydrazine> Went from winning a fight hardcore to "Oh Shit"
22:23:52 <Hydrazine> In like 1 round.
22:23:53 <Steven> I remember this time Folnor and his party ran into two Gugs
22:24:18 <spider21b> triceratops i really really want to ride a triceratops
22:24:22 <Steven> Folnor is such a crafty devil... Ring of invisibility is the only reason he isn't dead
22:24:26 <Steven> Mammoth rider
22:25:46 <Hydrazine> I had a long talk with Mort a while ago about the impracticality of using a synthesist as a mount.
22:26:47 <spider21b> mammoth rider sucks ass i want to just freaking buy a triceratops
22:27:06 <Hydrazine> I think similar rulings apply here. If you can have a pet/mount that can be very effective in combat on its own, riding it detracts from this.
22:27:33 <spider21b> why is that?
22:27:55 <Hydrazine> Because the mount is busy carrying you around instead of fighting.
22:28:36 <spider21b> this is true thats why you have a pet to fight and another one to ride
22:29:22 <Hydrazine> How do you get both, that scale up effectively?
22:29:32 <spider21b> you dont
22:29:41 <Hydrazine> Then which one is which?
22:29:42 <spider21b> boon compation twice?
22:30:00 <Hydrazine> You can't have two animal companions, I don't think.
22:30:15 <spider21b> yes you can
22:30:21 <spider21b> animal lord
22:30:22 <spider21b> ranger
22:30:25 <Steven> gave my friend a build for a teifling Nature Oracle, Paladin, Mammoth rider
22:30:41 <spider21b> how does one build a mammoth rider anyway?
22:30:55 <Hydrazine> get a mammoth.
22:30:57 <Hydrazine> Ride it.
22:30:57 <Hydrazine> ??????
22:30:59 <Hydrazine> Profit!~
22:31:20 <spider21b> but i want a triceratops instead
22:32:45 <Hydrazine> Huh.
22:33:04 <Hydrazine> The boon companion beastmaster would work, I think. To bring the difference up.
22:33:13 <spider21b> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/other-paizo/i-m/mammoth-rider
22:33:43 <Hydrazine> So a level 11 beastmaster could have.. 2 companions at 9 and 8.
22:36:13 <spider21b> true or you could be a beast master level one druid level one
22:40:57 <spider21b> or a beast master 1/ druid 1/ soc Empyreal/Sylvan mixed bloodline
22:41:04 <spider21b> 3 animal compations
22:44:54 <spider21b> hey steven should i muiltclass thunder otter so i can get a triceratops?
22:55:40 <Steven> sorry i had connection issues what up
22:55:59 <Steven> wtf is a thunder otter?
22:56:20 <Hydrazine> Its kinda like a Lightning Otter.
22:56:30 <Steven> yeah whats a lightning otter?
22:56:51 <Hydrazine> Well.. Ya ever seen a Storm Beaver?
22:57:19 <Steven> nope
22:58:02 <Hydrazine> What, do you live under a rock or something?
22:58:22 <Steven> nope
22:58:54 <Steven> just right next to one
22:58:59 <Steven> anyways what is a thunder otter?
22:59:00 <Hydrazine> Next you'll be telling me you don't know about the immortal jellyfish!
22:59:14 <Steven> doesnt ring a bell
22:59:31 <Hydrazine> The funny part is, that one's actually real.
23:00:19 <Steven> sorry not a biologist
23:00:49 <Steven> i could start throwing out geologic terms that you guys would have no clue about
23:00:56 <Steven> but i dont cause its not important
23:00:58 <Steven> but anyways
23:01:06 <Steven> what the hell is a thunder otter?
23:01:24 <Hydrazine> What do you get when you cross an elephant and a rhino?
23:01:43 <Steven> genetic mutation
23:01:49 <Steven> or
23:01:54 <Steven> trampled to death
23:02:12 <Hydrazine> Hell if I know what a thunder otter is.
23:03:27 <Steven> yeah and spider stopped talking
23:03:40 <Hydrazine> Thats kind of why I kept going.
23:03:44 <Hydrazine> I didn't want to leave you alone.
23:03:55 <spider21b> i am here
23:04:00 <spider21b> thunder otter is a druid
23:04:12 <spider21b> in a game pathfinder he is a character you know
23:04:17 <spider21b> sorry i was watching a video
23:04:20 <Hydrazine> The immortal jellyfish can age backwards in response to adverse situations, and then age up again afterwards.
23:05:12 <spider21b> but i want to get an animal compation to ride on
23:05:14 <Steven> thats cool i guess
23:05:38 <spider21b> any ideas?
23:05:50 <spider21b> since i allready have a dino animal compation
23:08:13 <Steven> what is a thunder otter do you mean the tempest druid
23:09:39 <spider21b> no, the omg str is 19 and has a dino one
23:11:01 <Steven> not familiar with that one... whats the archtype?
23:12:55 <spider21b> um Saurian Shaman
23:13:11 <spider21b> fighter style druid
23:14:34 <Steven> hmmmm...
23:15:14 <tashphones> Not my bush! D:
23:15:27 <Steven> i dont know if mammoth rider is going to be good for you then
23:16:24 <Steven> cant ride your dino while in dino form yourself
23:16:32 <spider21b> this is true
23:17:50 <Steven> at first level as a druid you can get a medium triceritops
23:18:10 <Steven> that goes to large at level 7, which allows you to ride him
23:18:18 <Hydrazine> Its rather simple to trade out animal companions, isn't it?
23:18:48 <Steven> well... sadly you lose all the tricks you teach the animal every time you swap them out
23:19:16 <Steven> and you have to reteach them all
23:21:34 <Hydrazine> Fair, but worth considering.
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23:28:09 <Steven> its not hard, but a lot of gms will only allow you to teach one trick per week
23:28:21 <Steven> or rather one trick per session
23:28:33 <Steven> and if you fail you have to wait till you finish the next session
23:28:55 <Steven> its not written anywhere, and im in favor of if you want to sit around and roll for every trick go for it
23:29:18 <Steven> because technically there is an undetermined amount of downtime between scenarios.
23:31:23 <spider21b> gotcha
23:45:04 <Steven> need help w/ your build spider?